[SPEAKER_00]: It's political.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a super friday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because, you know, Superman.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to see it about two hours after we finish this show.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you got a late night show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that is awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have, um, I have tickets for Saturday, uh, midday, um, kind of nice, you know, I'm like, I, I, I hunted around for a theater to have fewer people.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I could get a nice seat in the middle.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, so, well, we'll see.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am, I am interested.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, should be good show.
[SPEAKER_09]: I got a great seat in the middle, but with so much in the front so that if I need to go to the bathroom,
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: I always, I always make sure, look, I know that they, they're like, you know, look, they, they give you the ten gallon bucket.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, drink.
[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody, everybody can get that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I always remember that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I ordered the small one, which, of course, is a large one anywhere else in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it, it's still, I order the small one and then try to not drink out of it knowing that if I do, I will have to go piece of this way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, no, I've been drinking water all day because I had my blood drawn.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so I mean, I woke up and you saw the full of bottomest the vampire.
[SPEAKER_09]: They love it when you drink a lot of water.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: By the way, because it helps with your yeah, it's easier to find a vein and it just blood flows easier and also it was a urinalysis so it's like, she goes you ready.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, oh my god, I'm so ready.
[SPEAKER_09]: I got up at three and I was I probably had
[SPEAKER_09]: forty five ounce sixty ounces of water before I left.
[SPEAKER_09]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_09]: So it could it couldn't have been clearer, by the way, to be really TMI about this everybody.
[SPEAKER_09]: And it was it was like she's and I had the first appointment today.
[SPEAKER_09]: So it was like I was in and
[SPEAKER_09]: out and perfectly and so we'll see and by the way with oh my goodness she did roll a vein she's like I see your vein but I don't have it oh yeah I'm getting a nice bruise but so with the Superman I I'm bringing the book testaments the testaments with me because when I go alone
[SPEAKER_09]: I like to read before they start their previews.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm that person when I go, so it'll be funny to see people going, you're reading what?
[SPEAKER_09]: The sequel to The Handmeans Tale?
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I tend to, even though it'll be just me, I will still do the same thing that I have done since.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh God, I was probably out in no ten, eleven, twelve.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I go my friend and I and we would do the MST three K kind of thing where we're like oh double feature.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh triple feature and we mock the previews and if they have these days they had we mock the ads we call I mean it's
[SPEAKER_09]: If I knew Frank Connor, if I would have him on the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we could get Frank on the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: He might be moving to Minneapolis.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll have to check if he was serious.
[SPEAKER_01]: I knew he was joking about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he's serious.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I would do stuff like that because it's hilarious and it's fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: And most of the time, you've seen all the ads in the previews anyway.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, there was one summer that I went to movies once a week.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I knew all the previews.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like, almost by heart.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's, it looked, that's the same thing that, you know, at radio stations where there are still live people doing DJing, which there are a few of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is very common for DJs to make up alternate lyrics and make up mocking alternate comments through the ads.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you hear them all the time.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, I mean, the PSAs on Stephanie show that are played and sometimes you hear them sometimes you don't depending on the radio station.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Chris and I know the whole.
[SPEAKER_09]: Chris knows him better than I do because I was only there for almost two years.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you make and you make fun of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we do we do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's that that's that is a very typical radio thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: We just, you know, it's it's it's one of the joys of being in radio folks, one of those.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are actually happy that you guys are here with us here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was so behind the scenes right now.
[SPEAKER_09]: Don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, they that part of the reason they come to politics bars because they know that you and I, Jody have worked in radio and entertainment and media and news for ever, basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they're like, this is kind of fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: These people actually know what's going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: That tells us what's going on behind the scenes, which which is why we're out to like joy read.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we'll get her.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'd love to see if we could get Jim Acosta.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll get some more of those.
[SPEAKER_09]: We do have your true coming on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, Richard Chu from WCPT, by the way, big thanks to every radio station that is carrying SWCPT AMA-Twenty-Richard Station in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, you're listening, and if you're listening on podcasts, thank you from the past, you future people.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a Friday.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, we are still talking about the floods in Texas because they've been horrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just kind of have that goes folks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Trump and Melania visited.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_09]: Did she wear the I don't care to you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I haven't seen the picture yet from it, but it wouldn't surprise me.
[SPEAKER_01]: The biggest thing is, um, if you're looking for the acting director, FEMA, uh, that person is not in Texas.
[SPEAKER_09]: I know what is going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a week and still not there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you freaking kidding me?
[SPEAKER_01]: You're the brownie was better.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the horse guy, which my father actually knew him before and anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: I won't comment on him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the story does have several other layers.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you thought we were the bottom layer of this, I don't know where it gets worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Christie the gnome, DHS director,
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you know that she canceled some of the extreme weather communications grants this week?
[SPEAKER_09]: Because she's a sociopathic puppy killer.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Among other things, um, literally this week, they're supposed to be some grants that, you know, we're getting funded for for communications for things like emergency communications.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she canceled them for some.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it does look like the the local Kirk County folks in Texas have been trying for the last decade to get some help, but the state of Texas said, nah, every single time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm going to blame the state at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, because because it does look like the local officials, multiple times they they got reports that said this was bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was dangerous.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they did the thing where they fill out the paperwork to contact somebody.
[SPEAKER_01]: They try to get money.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're told no.
[SPEAKER_01]: They fill out the paperwork.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to contact somebody.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're told no.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't on and on.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it looks like they kept trying until they finally just got so tired of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They went
[SPEAKER_01]: whatever we'll just deal with whatever we have which I feel for them because obviously you know it's it's a it's a little bit further down in the news on tap today at the politics bar dot com but there is a story that kind of explains what the folks in Texas are actually paying attention to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton who as you know has had criminal charges against him you know he's he was impeached wasn't it
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yes, but not convicted because basically the rest of the Texas Republicans kind of bought it off.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh my god, that sounds familiar here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very very familiar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this jerk is running for Senate against, uh, Corning who, look, Corning should retire too for that matter, but I digress for that for the Republican nomination.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going up for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But
[SPEAKER_01]: So this will sound weird to people who are not in Texas.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those of you who are in Texas, I get it Anita.
[SPEAKER_01]: She'll be on.
[SPEAKER_01]: She'll be on later.
[SPEAKER_01]: She'll tell us a little bit more about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: But so Ken Paxton, he's the attorney general and his wife is a state senator in Texas.
[SPEAKER_01]: She didn't she try to convict now she didn't try to convict no she actually they say they they thought she might and then she wrote it gets it because a whole big thing came out about how he had cheated on her multiple times and he's just a cat and he's right once he finally decided she had enough after thirty eight thirty nine years of marriage so she is publicly divorcing before
[SPEAKER_09]: Biblical reasons.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, there's a little clip in the news on Tathagos about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's, um, yeah, that basically, she said she in her release, it was because of Biblical reasons pretty much to the saying that it's because he's been sleeping around, which is Biblical.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Republican Senate campaign arm.
[SPEAKER_01]: has been waiting for this and the minute that she filed, they threw his ass into the bus.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, bye, you're gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's ten points ahead of Cornean for the Republican nomination in Texas.
[SPEAKER_09]: How is he ten points ahead after that?
[SPEAKER_01]: That this this is I don't think it's after I don't think they've done a poll after yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they will.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they will, but at the last polling, he was still ahead of Coran and the biggest reason why I think is that the people who are voting Republican in Texas are very maga and they still think I'm going to be, you know, the big I can pound and beat everybody up and well, Pakistan beats everybody up because he, well, yeah, because he cheats at he steals and he lies and obviously he cheated on his wife several times.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yet they couldn't in a decade find one million dollars to fund some sirens and some horns to save more than a hundred and twenty people who are now dead in Kirk County.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just just just noting they could find millions for all kinds of tax breaks.
[SPEAKER_01]: They could find millions for all kinds of things.
[SPEAKER_01]: They couldn't find allows you one million dollars in Texas a million dollars.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's for a single county.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that kind of tells you guys where it's at.
[SPEAKER_01]: A friend of mine has a cartoon of Paul fell.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a great cartoonist and he has a cartoon up today.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says there's a new game in Texas.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's called Texas Blame him.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's funny.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm I'm I'm man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's true because it's you know, I mean, I'm sorry, but that that is that is the nature of it and that that's so if you guys want to know where the blame goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't necessarily hit at the the local officials there in Kirk County in Texas, but there's definitely some issues.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's definitely some issues with the Texas state and obviously with the the federal government under Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, by the way, one other note on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the wake of these Texas floods, the Trump administration is now backing away from abolishing FEMA.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sugar.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, maybe it's a good idea.
[SPEAKER_09]: Maybe the red states might need them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think there might be a little of that, but I also think, you know, if they didn't have FEMA, who would they blame?
[SPEAKER_01]: Also true, which is both disgusting and, you know, it's one of those where you go, okay, well, whatever, at least we'll have fame.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will need to be fixed like virtually everything else in the federal government after we get rid of these magma morons, but hey, you know, at least it'll be there.
[SPEAKER_01]: probably be late, and probably like brownie, but hey, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hey, brownie looks like an amazing FEMA director comparatively.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because we don't technically have a FEMA director.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have an acting FEMA director.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe his name is Casper.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the friendly ghost.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, the thing is, is when when George, when Clinton was the president, FEMA worked well.
[SPEAKER_09]: Donald didn't have to deal with as much last time and Biden did well except for Trump trying to undermine it
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: And now Donald is just don't get me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get Jody's darted.
[SPEAKER_09]: It could see my face.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you have a lovely face, but you know, when you get mad, you know, yes, Jodie goes home.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: I go the superhawk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we've got some phone calls here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're gonna call somebody back after this who's called us and She's got some amazing questions.
[SPEAKER_01]: She has some fantastic questions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're back on a Friday night here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is being shot.
[SPEAKER_01]: It appears along with Jody Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we got somebody on the line here who called in left the message.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you guys can always leave a message.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like she did, two one three six seven seven seven seven seven seven seven seven seven seven seven seven two fifty eight.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's two one three six seven seven salt.
[SPEAKER_01]: Deb out in LA called us.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, I don't know if you're, uh, how close you are, neighbor of Jody's there, Dev.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, you know, you're, you're here in the bar now with us at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: How's your week been so far?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I am glad it's over.
[SPEAKER_04]: Very busy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Understand how that works.
[SPEAKER_01]: Understand how that works sometimes.
[SPEAKER_01]: You, you, you called and you left a fantastic message on our voice mail.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and, and, and obviously, everybody else here hadn't heard it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You asked us a question.
[SPEAKER_01]: What were you asked before?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, well, um, I think I was talking about ten and fifty one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Federalists, but you like ten and one, yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like John Meacham or something really not.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was talking about going to your neighbors, though, essentially, how do we build this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: How do we build concerns?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, it's, it's, this is, this is an important question to have.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is something that I don't think everybody thinks of quite as deeply as as we do.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I have to admit when Jody and I were, we're kind of looking up the stuff on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been literally thinking about some of this type of stuff for ten, fifteen, maybe twenty years.
[SPEAKER_01]: You would ask you said, you know, we've got a despotic president.
[SPEAKER_01]: How do we get back to having consensus?
[SPEAKER_01]: How do we get back to, you know, basically, you know, how do we get out of this newfound McCarthyism?
[SPEAKER_01]: And you mentioned Federalist ten and fifty one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I know some of the folks here in the bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You over there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're pretty good about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: But well, look, you know, it's there's nothing wrong with being a little bit of a nerd on government because because that is the first the first first solution I will tell you about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably the one you've already thought of.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody needs to be involved.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's correct and involved.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I think a lot of people
[SPEAKER_04]: social media, but I think that's it of what needs to be done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so much more of the social media.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to what you suggested.
[SPEAKER_01]: You said, hey, maybe maybe we could do a certain people could have put your phone down Friday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go talk to your neighbor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Be careful.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, some of those neighbors are doing in, you know, depending on the corner of the bar, you're in Camille.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's funky, but again.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I think this is compartment as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking about Medicare advantage.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe to feel this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, he said, eventually the conversation that can't save as a user.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how that happened.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I was saying, you know, and it was, I mean, just it's weird.
[SPEAKER_04]: I moved out to the birds and talked to all my neighbors.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think you know, I'll just visit this weird, you know, and then, yeah, I'd want to have like as many of us do now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, we're a little bit in debt.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's something else.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're just, we're
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, it is, it is, it is very, very common these days for people to be siloed to be lonely.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you remember, President Biden, his surgeon general said one of the biggest problems in America had is, is loneliness.
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the best things you can do, not just to defeat loneliness, but also to improve our politics, is yes, talk to our neighbors.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like you said, you said, you know, you kind of nerded out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ferrell's ten and fifty one for those who don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just refresh everybody's memory here.
[SPEAKER_09]: Deborah is super duper smart and nerd and I love you about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I have no faith here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do it real quick.
[SPEAKER_01]: Federal's ten focuses on factions and political parties says both of those are inevitable and they can be dangerous if we don't and here's the key if we don't make sure to have specific checks and balances federal's fifty one went
[SPEAKER_01]: a lot deeper into the specific tracks and balances of the three of federal branches, the need to prevent tyranny, how we do these kinds of things, but you wondered if we could have solutions.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: So let's go ahead.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, in these settlers, the federal ones, the federalist papers are kind of the live of the founders.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, if you read them, they really are
[SPEAKER_04]: They go on and on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like it's like reading the social media of the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a blue sky post or or you know, they're their Facebook post or tweets or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: One of the nine Facebook posts.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's some like ten years ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's I think what was amazing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's ten especially if you read it, you know, Dean Madison got into
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm machine, a colonial version.
[SPEAKER_04]: or something and showed up here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: But he just said then to get me a call.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you were looking for solutions.
[SPEAKER_01]: And here's the key.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the key.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you asked literally the right two people, because Jody knows all about this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I have literally written it down.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the answer to the question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I've been wondering, can we do anything?
[SPEAKER_01]: And the answers are pretty good.
[SPEAKER_01]: We actually have a whole list of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jody, the first one on list is the one that you and I have talked about quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to tell her about it?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really easy.
[SPEAKER_09]: ranked choice voting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hello.
[SPEAKER_01]: The folks are at the New York City the bar area the bar you know there are other areas of our have ranked choice voting to but ranked choice voting works in fact as they have finished counting the ranked choice votes ballots in New York City.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Mamdonny has gotten the most votes ever for a primary candidate in New York City just saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's step one step two.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can fuse Jody with this.
[SPEAKER_01]: She understands it, but I can hold it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Deborah have you ever heard of mixed member proportional representation?
[SPEAKER_04]: OK, no, you're going to have to, is there an acronym?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's usually, it's usually.
[SPEAKER_04]: MNPR.
[SPEAKER_01]: MNPR, MNPR, MNPR.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So mixed first, first of all, proportional representation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say that in the state of California, you had three parties.
[SPEAKER_01]: The white party, the pink party and the blue party.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the white party had forty percent of the votes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the blue party had forty five percent of votes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the pink party got fifteen percent of the vote.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you had proportional representation in the California legislature, both houses, you would have, forty percent would be from the white party, forty five percent would be from the blue party and fifteen percent would be from the pink party.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does that make sense so far?
[SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of ways to do elections and validating to set that up and you can do ways that involve political parties or individuals more.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then you also have something that the mixed member portion of this and the mixed member portion of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the United States, we actually used to have mixed member representation of individual congressional districts.
[SPEAKER_01]: So congressional districts are only supposed to have so many people.
[SPEAKER_01]: only supposed to represent at most.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what like why why I mean I think what did you say Joe these seven hundred and some change thousand people right but we have we have members of the house representatives who have like a million million and a half high California yeah exactly
[SPEAKER_01]: Mixed exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think really county is right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, used to have is we had mixed member multi representation.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what it means is in the single district, you would have multiple members.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for example, if we did proportional representation of a single house district in since we're using California in California.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say it's a big district has two, three million people.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you had in that district the same representation as you did in our hypothetical for the California legislature.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you had forty percent with the white vote, forty five percent with a blue vote, fifteen percent for the pink vote, then you would get three representatives from that same house district.
[SPEAKER_01]: One would be from the white party, one from the blue party, one from the pink party.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does that make sense?
[SPEAKER_04]: They're so tweeted the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they're votes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess that works out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, but it works out because of one thing that Jody was jumping up and down about when we were talking about this earlier.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do we need to do with Congress, Jody?
[SPEAKER_09]: Expand it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh huh, big to need indeed indeed indeed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we have way more memory.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need way more members because we have so many people in the country.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need more people to accurate or represent us.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's the second big thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: The third one.
[SPEAKER_01]: People have sometimes termed this the NASCAR of elections public financing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Next one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that is a big thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Another one is limited campaign windows.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you, do you want to describe this one, Jordi?
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't worry.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you do it.
[SPEAKER_09]: You don't, but way better.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you, we were talking, you had a, you had a, you had a, you had a fantastic example of limited campaign windows.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who had a limited campaign window in twenty twenty four?
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the exact that is the exact one that Jodi got you know what you are is exactly as smart as Jodi right now, Deborah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, wow, wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which makes you pretty smart.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now tell you that's but but yes, a limited campaign window is something that other countries have where you can't campaign before a date and you can't campaign after a date France is a perfect example because not only do they do it for the candidates, but they also do it for the media.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you are in that dark window when the voting has stopped, but the counting has not, you know, a result has not been out and you're in the media and you start talking about the election.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can get censured.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can get fined.
[SPEAKER_01]: They can come in and temporarily shut your media organization down.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is very clear.
[SPEAKER_01]: You do not talk about the election in that period if you're the media.
[SPEAKER_09]: I agree with the concept, but this country would never allow it because of free speech.
[SPEAKER_09]: So right.
[SPEAKER_04]: But they're both of the first amendment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that doesn't mean that we can't do the limited campaign.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm all for like, you know, six months.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a perfect example because and then you also shouldn't have the perpetual campaigning on ads outside of that either, but that would be another regulation.
[SPEAKER_01]: The last one is called tiered public service limits.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this is another one we're confused.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ready.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you do do you do do you understand what that means?
[SPEAKER_04]: This is kind of getting like kind of go ahead.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody understands term limits, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: But tiered public service limits, what this does is it says, let's use a hypothetical.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've used this hypothetical before.
[SPEAKER_01]: On a tiered public service limit, you could say somebody wants to serve the public.
[SPEAKER_01]: They can work for the public for thirty years, ten years at the local level, ten years at the state level and ten years at the federal level.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we should apply it not just to those people who are candidates, but it also should be applied to lobbying.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to be a lobbyist at the local level, that's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to be a lobbyist at the state level.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to be a lobbyist at the federal level.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you shouldn't be able to jump back and forth and perpetually be in government at the same level forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because every level of government works differently, and you're going to need to know what different group of people doesn't mean you can't serve.
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't mean you can't continue to serve.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just means you can't set up your own little freedom, your own little kingdom.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, and it'll be obvious, option.
[SPEAKER_04]: It direct and indirect.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So these are just a handful of the solutions that are out there that other countries, other states and territories, other provinces, other cities and towns, all over the world,
[SPEAKER_01]: And they work at various levels differently because the first thing that when we talk, when you when, you know, we got you on the phone here in the bar, the first thing is the most important, which is it's what Barack Obama has said for years.
[SPEAKER_01]: The most important position in the entire government is out of citizen.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it means we got to get off our asses and we got to do exactly what you suggested.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you asked us and yet you came with the solution.
[SPEAKER_01]: The solution is you go, well, you're not going to door your neighbor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Be careful, you know, some little bit, funny or the others, but you're not going to door, you get to know your neighbors and you get out and you get involved.
[SPEAKER_01]: That if you want to know how we fix things, everything we just talked about is how we fix it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It isn't, it didn't get this way overnight.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to get fixed overnight, but those are the solutions that we've got.
[SPEAKER_04]: think the spirit of Madison is alive because in my little suburban town here they have a meet the mayor every week and you can go to the restaurant just meet the entire city council which is wonderful you know and and you have a pair of keys and you have some some sort of I don't know orders
[SPEAKER_04]: you get to actually talk and just say, hey, what about this?
[SPEAKER_04]: And then, oh, here's the city engineer, your dream.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so here's, here's, here's, here's a little story for you to have.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is this little story.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I know, everybody's all, you're rolling your eyes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a little story.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I used to be a member of the DC Huskers, the, the Husker Alumni Group in the, from the University of Nebraska here in the DC area.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the guy died a cancer, one of Mitch McConnell's closest aides was from Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was also an alumni of Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a member of Congress from Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_01]: He unfortunately has also passed, but they were all there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there was a particular legislative issue that was getting sticky at one point.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I happen to be there and I saw them.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I say, come here, come here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll just get in a corner and we'll talk.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we got in a corner and I started getting them to hash it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And about six weeks later, we had a transportation bill because that's how things are actually done.
[SPEAKER_01]: You get with your local officials.
[SPEAKER_01]: You get with your state officials.
[SPEAKER_01]: You get with your federal officials and people talk and they iron out their issues.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how things get done.
[SPEAKER_01]: So
[SPEAKER_01]: For those people who think no, it's something.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is no magic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Deborah, we've got to go pay some bills here, but we're very glad you called the number.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, Deborah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you see Jody in the LA corner of the bar, just to, you know, say hi.
[SPEAKER_01]: Be nice, you know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I look free.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the next podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Deborah, thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got the drink of the day two should we do that next?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah after that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, then we will do it next drink the day coming up more news on tap Karen and Anita from True Blue politics coming up as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jody, what is today's drink of the day?
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, it is an honor of Wimbledon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, for those who did not know who those who missed it earlier, uh, well, technically, it's kind of yesterday.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird because obviously it's, you know, across hours later.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, American, um, Amanda, Anisa Mova, um, she, she's the one who is, she'll be in the finals on Saturday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, uh, for the women's finals, women's singles finals.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know she walked away from tennis two years ago?
[SPEAKER_09]: That's a long time to leave a sport.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was for her mental health, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now she's back and she's, you know, in the finals and mumbled in.
[SPEAKER_09]: So she's like, Simone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly the comparison I was thinking.
[SPEAKER_01]: Simone Biles, who also, look, you got to take care of your mental health.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's a fantastic thing to do when mental is all about sports.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sports is sports is all about a lot of times, you know, making sure that you have your head where it should be.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_09]: And if people need to walk away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, go for it, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's that's the thing to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, Carlos Alcaras had his head in the game today.
[SPEAKER_01]: It went four sets.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, now he beat American Taylor Fritz.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Alcaras is going to be in his third straight title this weekend at Wimbledon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, you know, he's one of the best in the world for a reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: But one of the best drinks in the world as you noted was inspired by Wimbledon.
[SPEAKER_09]: And it is a Wimbledon martini.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay, first off you need a shaker and then you need ice for said shaker Got it and you need a martini glass because it's a martini and then you need three fresh strawberries hold okay hold which we have a link to how you hold it okay
[SPEAKER_09]: I've never hold it in my life.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you, they say you should hold it, but you don't have to.
[SPEAKER_09]: You don't have to.
[SPEAKER_09]: You can model.
[SPEAKER_09]: But you have one and a half ounces of light white run.
[SPEAKER_09]: One and a half ounces of strawberry, creme, frais, licua.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: It sounds so fancy.
[SPEAKER_09]: And one quarter ounce of simple syrup or a specific type of syrup, which is in the drink recipe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cames syrup, but yeah, you've got it linked there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: A half ounce of single-creme cream.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm going all French on y'all.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'll say.
[SPEAKER_09]: One half ounce of single cream or half and half, whichever you prefer.
[SPEAKER_09]: And one strawberry and a mint sprig for garnish.
[SPEAKER_01]: to make it pretty.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it looks so pretty.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you see the picture, it's so pretty.
[SPEAKER_01]: It does.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: First off, you pre-chilled the martini glass.
[SPEAKER_09]: Again, like we did yesterday, you pre-chilled it, put it in the fridge.
[SPEAKER_09]: I suggest fridge.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, correct, fridge.
[SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: Prepare the garnish.
[SPEAKER_09]: You just kind of slice, it's a thing to put it on the, you'll see the picture.
[SPEAKER_09]: Then you model, we've modeled before children.
[SPEAKER_09]: The strawberries in the base of the shaker.
[SPEAKER_09]: There is a link to muddling again.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you don't know, yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's another link.
[SPEAKER_09]: Add the rest of the ingredients to the shaker.
[SPEAKER_09]: So, add the, excuse me, the rum, the creme frazz, the cure, the simple syrup, the half and half.
[SPEAKER_02]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then you shake it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Shake, shake, shake, and then you strain it into a chilled martini glass.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, this is a thick kind of drink.
[SPEAKER_09]: So the straining might take a bit.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's a note in the recipe that it's going to take a bit to strain it because you're going to have some patience.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: And once you're worth it, it will be.
[SPEAKER_09]: Once you strain it, you garnish it with a strawberry and the mint sprig and it's very yummy and enjoy the match.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very much whatever whichever tennis matches you're watching.
[SPEAKER_01]: It should be it should be good for those of you who are watching Wimbledon this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that will be it'll be kind of fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, you know, maybe you like Jody and I are going to be watching Superman.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty one million dollars in their right office previews.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's basically from last night.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, and yes, future people for those of you who've already seen it do not spoil it for the rest of us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't post about it on social media.
[SPEAKER_01]: Please don't Monday.
[SPEAKER_09]: Just wait.
[SPEAKER_09]: At least so Monday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: At least until Monday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, there is some good, some other good entertainment news as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Scrubs is getting an official reboot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Zach Braff and Donald Faison don't have to do team mobile commercials just to earn their living.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm sure they're doing it because they like each other and then Sarah Chalk is also going to be there.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's she's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's and and there's a Becky on Roseanne.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there I like their chemistry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she's a good actress, but I just I like the chemistry between the three.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the chemistry with all of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like most of the the original cast will be back for this reboot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, Sacred Hearts will be back in your television.
[SPEAKER_09]: They just shoot it down the streets.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no kidding.
[SPEAKER_09]: The hospital that used to live down the street, which is no longer there, unfortunately, but that was the exteriors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_09]: not the interior, so they shot it on a soundstage, but the exterior is with this old hospital that I miss it.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was a really long hospital.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's kind of cool that you can go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I can heard she's down the street, so.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, back to the real news.
[SPEAKER_01]: You had some action out there, Jodie.
[SPEAKER_01]: For those people who did not see it, there was a memory.
[SPEAKER_09]: I've been married for several years.
[SPEAKER_09]: What do you mean action?
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait a minute now are you are you telling that old joke like that because you know my my dad used to tell a joke like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He said he said there he used to say there are three phases of married sex.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know that the first year or two there's what he called which call whole house sex.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everywhere you can think of in some places you probably have an imagined years two through five generally that's bedroom sex casually may be the couch or the kitchen table but whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, after you're five, generally it's hallways six, where you walk by each other in the hallways and say, if you are.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then you plan it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so Saturday and go, you're good at night.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hey, what time would you like that one day?
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I, you know, my wife and I've been together about thirty years.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm, you know, I'm with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it, you know, that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some, some, there's nothing wrong with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing wrong with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just make sure you guys, you know, keep dating.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: No matter how long you've been together, whoever you are here in the bar, keep dating your significant other.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's, that's how you keep things going.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know keys were relationship advice drinks and news You can get you can get it all here the politics bar some of it is is better than others Use the drink advice something the news is having you know what I meant by action is there was an immigration rated at Canada's farm a couple of them out there in California near Camarillo Leading to some violent tactics by DHS there were protesters they were beating them it was
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: These ice holes are just.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're far game ice holes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like you put that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, far game ice holes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, for those of you in the AM-Nine fifty area, you've probably heard your granny say that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, that's from Johnny Daneurously.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although I thought it was a northern
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're they've been doing things ice handcuffed a we have a story another one a seventy-one-year-old grandmother who's a U.S.
[SPEAKER_01]: citizen inside a San Diego immigration court this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Citizen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is good news though on the immigration fronts remember the bad guys aren't winning them all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mammood Cleal is now suing a Trump administration for twenty million dollars over his illegitimate immigration arrests.
[SPEAKER_09]: Good for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks so much for doing that because you should.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, let's be honest, your folks, they should not have done what they did here.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's first amendment rights.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_09]: With your citizen or not, it's your first amendment rights as soon as you're on this soil.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have rights.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have rights as a person, not just as a citizen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which kind of was held up also by court this week with the freezing, the nationwide injunction that Supreme Court thought to get around with the nationwide injunction on the Fourteenth Amendment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which says it's for every person, not every child like Donald said.
[SPEAKER_09]: And with the birthright citizenship with
[SPEAKER_09]: what you're talking about.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was every child born since February, twenty fifth or whatever of this year.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's the class action was all those children, which is why it's going to be held up by the Supreme Court, because that's what they said.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be, it'll have that be fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Something else fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do not get federal judge Paul is in his pissed off.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's the one who is looking over the Killmar, a breakout Garcia case.
[SPEAKER_01]: She is really pissed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Both today and yesterday at the Trump DOJ folks, she was blasting them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have a supposed witness.
[SPEAKER_01]: nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing about the Diego García.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, you know, you have witnessed, obviously you would think witnesses would know something, but she ran the right act again today.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, basically,
[SPEAKER_01]: Mr. or break of Garcia's lawyers the good side as it were at minimum once seventy two hours notice if the government is going to try to get him out of the country and judges in a says okay well she will think about it over the weekend so at some point probably not tonight but at some point between now and probably early next week she's going to put out a ruling
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm bad, and it's not going to be one that the Trump regime likes too much because they sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've just been so stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been such jerks to her.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a judge.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is my courtroom.
[SPEAKER_01]: Show me some GD respect.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't seem to quite get that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They, they, they all have this arrogant thing about them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, you people are really dumb if you think that you can get away with that kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: The good news, other good news on the immigration fronts, there is a piece from the Atlantic.
[SPEAKER_01]: We give you a gift link from a writer Nick Mirov.
[SPEAKER_01]: And while Trump and his regime say they love ice, apparently the workforce, the workers who are at ice are miserable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, but here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this I think is important to note, they don't want to be doing the things that they're being told to do either.
[SPEAKER_01]: They want to do their jobs.
[SPEAKER_01]: They want to go to work.
[SPEAKER_01]: They want to come home and they want to know that they'll be safe.
[SPEAKER_01]: They want to know that their families will be safe.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't want to do this crap either.
[SPEAKER_09]: And just so you guys know that not everybody in ice is the guy is going out there.
[SPEAKER_09]: There are people that are in offices and I do have a friend that I went to school with.
[SPEAKER_09]: She was she was part of border patrol in offices and now she's ice because it changed into ice.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I don't want her to get docked right under three years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thousands, tens of thousands of workers who are involved in this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the overwhelming majority of them don't want to be doing these stupid things.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, especially a lot of the guys that are doing the the problem is is I think they're going to hire a bunch of prod boys and they're going to try to but remember a lot of those people already have criminal records and while ice has a low standard of entry, their standard of entry isn't that low.
[SPEAKER_09]: You sure because a lot of them were pardoned.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but just because they were pardon for one thing, doesn't mean they've been pardoned for other things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them have tried to stretch their gardens and judges, even judges that Trump nominated and put in place have said the pardon was for what they did on January six, not for all the other garbage.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's that's one of those kind of things are people go, Oh, crap.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to try, but they're going to have an immensely hard time finding ten thousand people who are as monstrous as they are and yet have clean records.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we will
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see about all of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Jati.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there is more news going on today.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Donald had another Trump or
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: What the, you know, he's a terrible man comes again.
[SPEAKER_08]: Taco man, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's taco man and he's terrible man.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like he's got, you know, two alternate negatives super.
[SPEAKER_09]: You saw that that meme of him as Superman, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't want to mention them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yeah, I'm like, are you freaking kidding me?
[SPEAKER_01]: He is not Superman.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is super dumb man.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is super awful man, but he's definitely not Superman.
[SPEAKER_08]: And did the White House really retweet that or was that just really?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure they did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's whatever here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can
[SPEAKER_09]: I could go look cuz I still have Twitter accounts and I could go see cuz I didn't want to look and I just was like really cuz if they did that's really like I could look really good as a meme, but I don't do that
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, look, I mean, there's first of all, there's no need to airbrush you, but yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, no, there is so many reasons.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure lying agrees with me, but yeah, no, they airbrushed and fake painted everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: They put that stupid meme up there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: It is that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh my god, it's real.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is the reason I didn't repost it was like a campy real.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, unfortunately, the social media accounts of the Trump regime are basically nothing more than garbage posting from a teenage insel, which is why most of them I have on most of my social accounts blocked, at least one way blocked.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see a point.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is garbage.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is
[SPEAKER_01]: The information they put out is worthless.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's about as worthwhile as a trade agreement with Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_09]: No kidding.
[SPEAKER_01]: For those of you missed it, Donald Trump, unless he's changed his mind in the last hour or so here, has said that he will hit Canada with thirty five percent tariffs and that he's want to want to do blanket tariffs of like ten to twenty percent, which basically is what he was going to do when he did the liberation day thing except for it was all up and down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Vietnam, we get we have a piece in the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_01]: They thought they had a deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not the only ones.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think South Korea had something similar.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, they did.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's absolutely insane.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is just selling terror confusion all over the place.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of the rest of the world is starting to find other ways around it and kind of cut us out, which is really not good for us.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I, um, yet another thing and yet another reason why you would want Democrats and Congress because Congress
[SPEAKER_01]: could put the kibash on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: They could really stop this at any point in time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you are getting affected negatively by all these tariffs, congratulations.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what to do?
[SPEAKER_01]: Call your congressperson and tell them get off their butt and go stop Donald Trump and his tariff chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you should do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I understand why you don't think maga government can be trusted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the state department decided, uh, was it last night that they, they started announcing they might lay it off and then by middle of today, they were starting to lay off people again.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, because the Supreme Court said they could.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's being decided, which is just a stupidly bad decision.
[SPEAKER_09]: Just wait until
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, until it's decided.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but at least it's not as bad as what happened in Missouri.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you had seen that story.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was awful.
[SPEAKER_01]: So in Missouri, the people, they remember there are more registered Republicans there, but they're also, I think, more registered independence or non-party.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember how it's set up in Missouri, but they had passed
[SPEAKER_01]: on their own, with ballot measures.
[SPEAKER_01]: They passed minimum wage increases.
[SPEAKER_01]: They passed sick leave, mandatory sick leave.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Republicans in the state legislature and the governor, the Republican governor, just signed a bill that rolled those back.
[SPEAKER_01]: They said, you don't know what you want.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know what you want more than you do.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think there for businesses and not for humans.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well,
[SPEAKER_01]: Missouri's not the only state in Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_01]: My home state has done this Iowa has done this.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are a number of states.
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of states where they have Republican quote unquote leadership where the citizens of the state have their ballot initiative and they have a ballot and they say this is the thing that we want.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they go, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know better than you do.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're just a dumb citizen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm.
[SPEAKER_01]: You wonder why I don't trust magas?
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know what we want.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we have government the way that, you know, well, I mean, a ballot measure literally says what the citizens want.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like you said, Jody, the money doesn't want that.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, I mean, corporations don't want that in Missouri, depending on what part of the state you live in.
[SPEAKER_09]: Mark my words on that one.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: A hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm so depending on where you live in the state depends on how you pronounce it.
[SPEAKER_09]: But regardless, corporations in that state don't want people to have minimum wage that's
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to have an increased minimum wage because then they'll have to pay out.
[SPEAKER_09]: And by the way, if minimum wage really stopped everything, you think that Republicans would have the statistics.
[SPEAKER_09]: There are no stats on if you raise a minimum wage.
[SPEAKER_09]: Crap goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you raise the minimum wage, prices go up a very tiny bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but overall, especially because the people who spend the money who put more money into the economy are the people who are on the lower end of the income scale.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is plenty of data that supports that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: It shows that they then, they have a lot more money to do things.
[SPEAKER_09]: Therefore, profits go up.
[SPEAKER_09]: So it's just the dumbest thing to say, minimum wage increases.
[SPEAKER_09]: Destroy.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't destroy your right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You are a hundred percent right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Once once again, folks, Jody is right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because look, it's for the people who say, especially the MAGA folks who say, well, back in the day, things were better.
[SPEAKER_01]: back in the day.
[SPEAKER_01]: The dollar went further and people earned relatively a lot more money from the work that they did.
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have to work two and three and four jobs most of the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason that things were better is because people had the extra time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they still spent time with their kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: No kids did not have
[SPEAKER_01]: as nearly as much with after school and school sports and school extracurriculars, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But there was till some of that then, but you know what they did with their time?
[SPEAKER_01]: With their time, they were involved in civic opportunities.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were involved in their government.
[SPEAKER_01]: They went to town hall meetings, and they went to city council meetings, and they got involved with their local elk's club, and they did things with the rotary.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is, this is how things go, folks.
[SPEAKER_09]: So, you know, if, if, if, okay, so I believe the minimum wage in like, nineteen sixty eight was what, uh, a dollar seventy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're talking about, uh, if it was pegged to to in twenty two dollars an hour right now, federally.
[SPEAKER_01]: Minimum minimum twenty two some some economists say it'd be closer to thirty but yes it'd be be somewhere to twenty two to thirty dollars an hour and is that a minimum still at seven fifty yeah yeah so that now that they can all kiss my
[SPEAKER_09]: My long flat wide flight.
[SPEAKER_09]: It really is long and flat wide.
[SPEAKER_09]: Trust me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have not looked at your butts so I cannot.
[SPEAKER_09]: You wouldn't see it.
[SPEAKER_09]: It just disappears.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's down to my knees.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's just wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like I said, I haven't seen it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't judge.
[SPEAKER_01]: And even if I had, I would say it was great because, you know, Jodie is right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me to say.
[SPEAKER_09]: I've played paper play to ask is what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do not know what mine looks like because I've never really looked at it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, eh, you know, I sit on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I use it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I run whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some other news going in a different direction on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are talking a little bit about our health.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is some news in health care today.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Trump DOJ is now demanding private patient information from trans youth medicine providers.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's all kinds of violations.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, the key to fighting a lot of this stuff is the same key that Donald Trump uses, which is throw everything in the gears that you can and delay this stuff as long as you can until we can get more sane governments.
[SPEAKER_01]: And once you get sane government at local state and federal level again,
[SPEAKER_01]: then you push it through and it will get a peeled and it will go to places and good judges will go whatever bite so yeah it's stupid we shouldn't have to fight these kinds of things but
[SPEAKER_01]: because people didn't show their asses up at the elections.
[SPEAKER_01]: They decided not to be involved.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we got.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is other politics as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Mamdan, he seems to be freaking out the Wall Street crowd again.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're rushing around trying to build a war chest, according to, I believe it's the Wall Street Journal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the funny thing though, Judy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember when we were talking when the primary is going on for New York mayor?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who had more money?
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it Adams the current mayor?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it Cuomo?
[SPEAKER_01]: Was either one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: They both had a lot more money than M.D.
[SPEAKER_01]: Any.
[SPEAKER_01]: M.D.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyone by remind me how many points?
[SPEAKER_09]: God at least.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like eleven or twelve.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Money is definitely important in politics, but it's not the only thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: No.
[SPEAKER_09]: And thankfully.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because otherwise, we wouldn't have democracy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It would just be basically back like, you know, in Europe where we're all peasants.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't need to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and look, so I understand the Wall Streeters are scared because he might make them pay a fraction of a fraction more in their taxes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, boo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ethan.
[SPEAKER_09]: I wish I had that kind of money to get my taxes raised.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really, really do.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like seriously.
[SPEAKER_01]: These people, you know, I'm like, look, somebody should force them to go see somebody for their mental health because their problem is my number needs to be higher.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're hoarders.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're hoarders of money.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it is, it's a serious disease.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a serious problem because folks, is it one of the seven deadly sins greed?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know that you can't take it with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who are you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you cannot take it with you?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, do something.
[SPEAKER_09]: And if you're raising children that rely on it, they're going to want to kill you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, they may not necessarily enjoy you when they're gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: They may fight with each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly, when Rupert Murdoch dies, I love the fact that the courts have held that that it's still the same compact that they had before.
[SPEAKER_01]: So basically the four or five kids are going to have to fight it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it will probably rip Fox quote unquote news to shreds.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm all about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see, you know, it's one of those things where sometimes, you know, fighting, you don't always like to watch it, especially if it's not boxing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But when you see people like that, Terry Chudder shreds, you're just like, giving a drink.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, welcome back.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about the news of the day, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we're going to get a need to take on what's going on down in Texas.
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, we'll talk a little superman because duh, it's a super weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're back on a Friday night here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Karen and Anina in the bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody is dancing a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: We hope you are dancing as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we are so glad that you are joining us here in the bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: From wherever you happen to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know it's been a long week, especially for some folks who are in Texas dealing with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anita, how far are you from the area that was really hit the world?
[SPEAKER_03]: She's in San Antonio.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm in San Antonio.
[SPEAKER_03]: So from my house, it's probably about forty minutes.
[SPEAKER_03]: It depends on where you live in San Antonio.
[SPEAKER_03]: You live on the far, far north side.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're probably only fifteen or twenty minutes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: Her brother had to evacuate.
[SPEAKER_03]: My brother had to evacuate because he doesn't bend arrows.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Charles hooked up blood and really bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was pretty scary that night.
[SPEAKER_03]: I called here and I was panicking because I couldn't get a hold of him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is this is exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So so the people who are there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, obviously the folks in Kirk County, we've got a story in the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_01]: The politics bar.com looks like they have been trying to get some help for this for practically a decade.
[SPEAKER_01]: Looks like they've gone multiple times to the state government.
[SPEAKER_01]: And basically the state government told him to pound sand because we can't assume to find a million dollars for you for safety.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can find a million dollars for all kinds of other stuff lots of millions for other stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: We just can't find it for you people.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have a twenty six million dollar surplus in the Texas.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, good.
[SPEAKER_01]: God.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're kidding.
[SPEAKER_01]: They literally right now have a twenty six million dollars.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're saying they could go to their bank account right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: A million.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hell, they could write out a two million dollar check boom and have had the stuff out there installed if they had if they had done this say like in March.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this was glow priorities.
[SPEAKER_03]: What I've been told, because I did call my state center.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was glow priority and it was considered.
[SPEAKER_03]: What did she say?
[SPEAKER_03]: Redundant.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Redundant.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: How?
[SPEAKER_01]: First my memory.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I don't know my the meaning of my words here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Redundant means that there's already a system in place.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this would be a secondary system.
[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't the problem that there wasn't an effect?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it was that there wasn't anything at all, as the matter of fact, there is a comfort, which is right next to her.
[SPEAKER_03]: It has been put in, I don't know, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in,
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: In the flooding from the Guadalupe at that time, and they got an emergency alert system.
[SPEAKER_03]: They paid for it themselves.
[SPEAKER_03]: Apparently they did, you know, they managed to get crazy and raise taxes in that county.
[SPEAKER_03]: And nobody died in this last flooding.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm glad it just is bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he died.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let me see, in comfort, they prepared.
[SPEAKER_01]: They either got assistance or kept at it, whatever, ended up getting their system.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did things properly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody died.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they weren't able to get the help that they needed.
[SPEAKER_01]: So because and correct me if I'm wrong YouTube, but Johnny and I were talking about this earlier this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: Government is supposed to help us when we cannot help ourselves.
[SPEAKER_01]: Am I correct on this?
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I was told.
[SPEAKER_03]: That would, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we paid taxes for some reason.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of not the good point, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: In other words, it's our money.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's our money.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Texas, they clearly, as you just said, Indie, they have twenty six million dollars in the bank.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I don't know, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: It makes me so mad because I mean, there were so many years of adults, but also the kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: I look at it and say, when somebody says, well, we can't afford it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I say to them, if somebody says something like this anywhere in this, we can't afford it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I say, what is the value of a life?
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, remember who we're dealing with.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're dealing with a party that doesn't care that six and seven-year-olds got slaughtered in their classroom right before Christmas.
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
[SPEAKER_07]: You're on the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't manage being up in every classroom.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of about furry, okay?
[SPEAKER_09]: They're not concerned about who breaks the ten commandments Donald Trump or can't taxed in either for that man.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's feeling holes down in Texas.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's digging holes too.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm kind of hoping for him to get some nomination because you know what he's going to get his butt kicked.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, and I would I would love to see it if well, who's who's the who's the Democratic or who who are all read is running against.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this guy named Bobby toll, you need to see Bobby polls add Bobby.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But no, he's an amazing and candidate.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm of course, Colin, all right.
[SPEAKER_03]: You all know when he's fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: But also, Jasmine, Crocodile, they did a poem.
[SPEAKER_03]: She beats Ken Paxon.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the reason why is because everybody hates Ken Paxon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and even his, even his soon to be ex-wife hates Ken Paxon with good reason.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's not a long time ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, during when they were, they impeached him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Susan, the state Senate.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That came out that he was having a prayer with this woman in Austin, this young woman in Austin.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why she didn't divorce them then.
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: I decided maybe now because it's going to really hurt him is what she's thinking and the primary gives John Cornan.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's way different.
[SPEAKER_03]: John Cornan in the primary, by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I heard what is it up like ten points on corner to something.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a friend.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, my husband's best friend.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is friends with John Coran.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so John Coran said that there if if can pass and wins.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he has some self-interest in saying this, but it's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: that the Republican donor base, which is, you know, there's a lot of donors here in Texas.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of money.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're just going to abandon the Republican party because that will just seem like too much for them, which I mean, I only have one thing to say to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see that happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would be like, hello.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: And see, he goes after Republicans.
[SPEAKER_03]: He threatens them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And as an attorney general, he uses this position to go after them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he is he is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have felt I for so bad for you and everybody else who's there in Texas because you guys I mean your government is so non-responsive at the state level.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is it is really some of some of the city some of the towns have have decent folks.
[SPEAKER_01]: But at at the state level, it is so gerrymander.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh and and did did you hear what we had this in the news on tap yesterday day before Jody.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know Karen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know if you guys saw this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Texas state legislature says they want to try to do a mid-cycle redistricting.
[SPEAKER_09]: They do they want to get rid of Jasmine Crocket.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, yeah, I'm going to try to buy us more seats for Republicans.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, they need so anti-democratic.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's probably an emergency session for them.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's an emergency session.
[SPEAKER_03]: Emergency sessions for things like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they can't have an emergency session for the kids that got killed in the valley.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or this flooding.
[SPEAKER_01]: For those who don't know, in in Texas, the legislature by law is only supposed to meet once every two years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So basically, the legislature in Texas governs, quote unquote, by emergency session constantly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The governor is constantly calling them back in, which look, there are.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, to Governor Richard's do that, or is it just great habit?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember her doing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: She was the only governor for one time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember her doing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember George Bush, even doing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it, or Rick Perry may have a couple times.
[SPEAKER_03]: But as far as, like, Greg Abbott, I mean, it's constant worst.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it does it for the dumbest reasons.
[SPEAKER_03]: For things, all the things that will, like, hurt Texans, like, taking away reproductive rights, or bounty laws, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, women.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, and, but it's just that they're just terrible.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just asked us voucher law where there were some Republicans because they represented role districts were voting against it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they let after them and primary debt.
[SPEAKER_03]: And basically got rid of them, so they could pass this voucher law.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now this vascular law, if I if I'm remembering the right law, and you know, this is the one that basically allows private, especially private religious schools to steal money from the public schools.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so basically it's just a subsidy for rich kids go to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they've been they've been going back and forth.
[SPEAKER_01]: We we mentioned this earlier.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is there's another story in the news on tap today, the politics bar dot com talks about Missouri.
[SPEAKER_01]: How they did a state ballot initiative to raise up the minimum wage and give.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Time off, basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, pay time off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the Republican legislature or the Republican governor knocked it down in Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's literally a voucher issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're talking about in Texas, where they have it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the people, this has been going back and forth.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the people put up a ballot measure that said, no, you cannot use public school money for private schools.
[SPEAKER_01]: The legislature did it didn't in run around it with a Republican governor.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a Republican dominant lawyer.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the people did another ballot measure that said, I don't think you heard me the first time Jack has this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they tried to do it again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now there's talked that there will be another ballot measure going back.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like that having to fight your own government.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what it does.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't allow ballot initiative because they don't want to hear from the people.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm with the people.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, then California we have too many so it's ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a fine line between the five right.
[SPEAKER_09]: There is, but I mean, we can't we are recalls are just ridiculous in this state.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's just insane.
[SPEAKER_09]: You only like two hundred thousand people to sign a recall petition in a state of forty plus million people.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's insane at least.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this kind of goes to one of the things that we've been noting on and off.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a great caller earlier today, Deborah from Los Angeles.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had her here in the bar and we were talking about, you know, solutions to what people could be doing to make government better.
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the things is that government constantly needs adjustment.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are constantly trying to make things better.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we should, but that means that we also need to be involved.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the speaking of California, we've mentioned this here, I think this week or last week, didn't we joke about the environmental?
[SPEAKER_01]: How they changed some of the standards?
[SPEAKER_01]: So that way they could build better because California, they need more housing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they need to change the environmental standards a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like things can't be changed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it when somebody says, well, this stupid awful horrible bill that was passed at the federal level is tax cuts forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you get, let's say we get a sixty seed majority in the house in Democrats because of the awful things Republicans have done.
[SPEAKER_01]: And let's say that we would get a five seat majority in the Senate.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that's stretching it, but let's say hypothetically we do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say by twenty twenty six that we're able to get a that we're able to get that and a Democratic president.
[SPEAKER_01]: If the Democrats decided to actually do it and go forward with it and not be fighting themselves and be aligned, could we change that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Could we break that thing and say, nope, as a matter of fact, not only are all of the taxes for the Bush era and all the ones from the Trump era gone, but the rich people are going to have to pay a lot more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and by the way, if they try to get away in other places in the world, we will come after them and take it away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we do that, you damn.
[SPEAKER_03]: But when you do that, you're working solution.
[SPEAKER_03]: and that would only be for that firm of the Democratic president.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, I mean, laws can be changed only if it's a constitutional amendment.
[SPEAKER_09]: But again, who's following that?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the thing is is we do this a lot on our side is that we have a lot of people, a lot of e-ores, as I call them, oh my god, it's going to be fucking forever with me who are more on me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: It, we lost this round, but we got plenty more rounds to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if they do to the act, let me tell you something, it'll be hard for Republicans to justify, you know, revoking that, going back to the old way, especially because if we're talking about who was it, I saw Justin Wolvers.
[SPEAKER_01]: a great economist, I'm sure you guys have seen him on all stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, MSNBC, CNN, he goes everywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he said, and he was being serious when he said this in his lifetime.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's in his forties or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has not known in the United States, there to be a truly, fiscally conservative Republican.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, God, no.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, no, they're not.
[SPEAKER_09]: They're not good at it.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not since Eisenhower.
[SPEAKER_01]: right tax cuts tax cuts cost money tax cuts cost big money so if tax cuts are an extra and they are and you don't have the money and we don't not for the kind of tax cuts that they have where it's the combination of the w bush trump one and trump two tax cuts for the rich
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry if if you're spending money on candy and soda pop and you don't have money for the basics you stop spending money on candy and soda pop and you do something earn more money and for the government that would mean oh well we have to raise taxes
[SPEAKER_07]: is tax is on, but it drives me crazy because the media narrative is always the default is that the Republicans have a better handle on the economy and the Republicans are better with managing the budget.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's always been the narrative.
[SPEAKER_09]: Not since Eisenhower have a Republican president been good about money.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the reason why they think that and the reason why the American people, the American people that think that is because the majority of white Americans think is the Republicans are better for their economy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And for rich white people, but rich white people.
[SPEAKER_01]: not the majority.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of how democracy works.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we, what we'll talk about that more.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about some of the other things in the news this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to talk to you guys about the Superman movie, too, because hello, it's super.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to see it in like four hours.
[SPEAKER_09]: Not even like three hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about all of that coming up, guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're back for last call on a Friday night with Karen and Anita from True Blue politics.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we are all hyped up and sounds like Jodie.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's what a couple of hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe less for you to go to the.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, super, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is everything that we're hearing from all the people who've seen it off of the last night showing or this morning, depending on where you're at, whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry podcast people for the weird timing thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it is, it looks like it's a really, really good movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bob Sasket, you guys know he's been involved in cartoons and comics and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know some comic people.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've all said it looks very well done, very well written, very well put together.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited about it, but I'm also really glad.
[SPEAKER_01]: because it's really, really, really pissing off Maga World.
[SPEAKER_09]: And there's a writer.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, there's a writer front of mine who who had already seen the film at a preview, I guess, because he's, you know, a big wig.
[SPEAKER_09]: And he's like, I already liked the movie, but now I like it even more.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely, you know what?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to do great.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to drive them nuts.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a Barbie movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: Remember how it has exploded over the Barbie movie?
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely love that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the fact that they made them so mad and it's like, oh, you're mad, boohoo.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they keep putting up these people in movies like that one about what was this about for something I can't remember, but it was made by pedophiles.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was all about
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, uh, LGBTQ and pedophilia.
[SPEAKER_03]: Remember, but it turns out it was made by pedophile, the producers.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I remember that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was some.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I can't remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: The, the, the, the, the screaming they cry about a lot of things, but the biggest thing at least with this particular movie is, well, you, you were just saying it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You said it multiple times this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: Superman.
[SPEAKER_01]: is a story about an immigrant.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, always has been and it was written by two Jewish fellas who fell out of place.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I believe one or both of them may have been immigrants or at least their families were not too long.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going
[SPEAKER_07]: it's it's always been a store and the funny thing is as they go all of them aliens and of course you know since you ran a literally is from another place and actually and I mean isn't that when movies are supposed to do is uplift us and inspire us to be better right but it's like and they we make the ones they do
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they do when they donate, it is interesting if, you know, if you, you talk to them, for example, and their Star Wars fans or whatever, they see themselves as many of them as the heroes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, I don't think you're interested in this story.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they put out those, like, you know, adds and stuff with the, they glorify the villain in the story.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And some of them do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them have bought very much into the anti hero thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the reasons I'm
[SPEAKER_01]: I have had a disagreement with my wife about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: We, she really loves Disney.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like Disney.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I have, I have partied until one or two in the morning, literally, the house where Walt Disney grew up in Marseille, Missouri.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was one of four things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a great hometown of Disney Museum there.
[SPEAKER_01]: But so the thing is, Disney is doing a whole area, whole land of anti heroes.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're calling it villain land.
[SPEAKER_01]: fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have always had a problem with that because I don't think we should be glorifying or humanizing the villains and people say, well, but make a more complex and I'm like, and I get there.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is place in art for complex bad guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: But as a general rule of thumb, I firmly believe for a lot of
[SPEAKER_01]: entertainment that it's bad when you have most of the entertainment where the bad guys are the good guys because among other things like you said, you know, uh, uh, or what's it?
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't watch.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't watch.
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't, I haven't watched.
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't watched.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a watch.
[SPEAKER_03]: People, people, people, actually felt like, you know, they, they, they started seeing, um,
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Humanity.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think they missed the whole point.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's what that's basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: I look at it and I go, there is some room for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's some room for that sopranos.
[SPEAKER_01]: I go, I could see that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the idea, especially in a certain genre of stories, which is superhero stories, superhero stories are like
[SPEAKER_01]: will take every trait that everyone has and turn it all the way up.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like turning the be on an old TV, you could oftentimes turn the intensity to contrast.
[SPEAKER_09]: You can turn it to eleven like spinal tests.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is that that's what superhero stories are is turning up both the good and the bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then literally Disney, it's it's most of that stuff is superhero.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whether you think of Lilo and Stitch as a superhero story, it kind of is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they have, oh, well, but we're going to make bad guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to, and I go, no, don't go up because then what you're teaching kids is, you know, bad, it's okay to be a bad guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're human.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I get to get.
[SPEAKER_09]: I get that they're human, but no, when my little sister first saw Snow White when it was a re-release in like, nineteen seventy one or seventy two.
[SPEAKER_09]: She walked out of the movie with my mom and the rest of us and she said, I don't like that snow person.
[SPEAKER_09]: And my mom looked at her and she said, why is she goes, well, the first time a tall guy comes around, she leaves all the guys who are taking care of her.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing wrong with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, I think there are places for this, but I think
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we can go too far in a lot of stuff and especially the idea of trying to make all of these anti heroes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the reasons I think that we've got so many problems, you know, in the DC universe, DC comics universe, why they have problems with Batman is because Batman is supposed to be an anti hero, but they've done so much stuff glorifying him as an anti hero that they made him a hero and then they try to do an anti anti hero.
[SPEAKER_01]: which just saying that confuses people and you go, how does it?
[SPEAKER_03]: He's also a big Atlanta anti.
[SPEAKER_03]: He has a vigilante.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of confusing.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: It always was.
[SPEAKER_09]: He always was.
[SPEAKER_09]: Even with the old school, you know, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's a cartoonist version of that character.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you take that and you say, well, I'm going to take that complexity and double it and then triple it at some point you go, I lost the threat of the story.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's what makes it interesting, okay, for smart people, okay?
[SPEAKER_03]: People, people that don't get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the way it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: But truly like a spider man, a lot of these, they're complex.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it makes them more interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't disagree with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that it's important that we have that complexity.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that by making them all, making all of the bad guys, good guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: It tends to wash it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, well, then who's the bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: If if everybody is a good guy, then who?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because as we can see in our politics right now, there are some really bad people.
[SPEAKER_03]: And at least when it comes to doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to governing, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are the Legion of Doom.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, we've got the the horrible prison down in Florida, which they're looking to duplicating.
[SPEAKER_01]: We did the things that they're doing to kill Marbrego Garcia, the things that they've done to Mimood Khalil.
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, but there are origins stories for evil people.
[SPEAKER_09]: And if we were just nice to Hitler, perhaps.
[SPEAKER_09]: If we were just, if Fred Trump was nice to Donald perhaps, you know, love his son, right?
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, there are, there are these origin stories of why Maleficent became who she is.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll look at wicked too, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a re-imagining too.
[SPEAKER_03]: I always want to believe that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Somehow.
[SPEAKER_03]: that we couldn't, you know, if people would just, if there was some love, we could give them more love.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why are we guys with just both?
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, I think it.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not, I'm not just agreeing.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think early prevention, you know, that's why we need, we need to be able to identify those things early.
[SPEAKER_09]: And the people that are evil, or who we perceive to be evil, like Donald and at all, were they nice, Christy puppy killer, no,
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, God knows what's going to happen to her daughter that we've all seen that you know, there are certain things that we can all agree with each other on, but my overarching part is just the fact that we also still need to acknowledge that some people, at least in certain circumstances are not redeemable.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, I know people like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like for example, if it were up to me, if I had the power, I would remove most of the people who are in Donald Trump's cabinet and never again allow them to be in government of any kind anywhere and then any level ever.
[SPEAKER_03]: ever they and they couldn't be and they couldn't they could never be none of these people would ever be chosen by even if they ever come right right I mean I look I look at say barren Trump okay he's being raised by
[SPEAKER_09]: awful people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we're he to be raised by different people, perhaps when he becomes an adult that we actually know about.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, he's technically an adult, but I know he's he know what I mean.
[SPEAKER_09]: And and I'm I worry about Christy Noom's daughter, who didn't quite witness what she did to the puppy in the goat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Still.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then why do some kids who are raised by her terrible parents?
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't turn out to be psychopath.
[SPEAKER_09]: Some don't.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I remember watching real quick, um, uh, the choice.
[SPEAKER_07]: them doing their profile on Donald Trump and you know how he was raised and things had happened.
[SPEAKER_07]: And there was trauma and there was abuse.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, Trump and his mother were monsters.
[SPEAKER_07]: They were horrible people.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you listen to Mary Mary says it all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so, and there was like a split second when I actually felt sorry for him.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, like, I mean, this obviously predates, you know, what we've looked through since.
[SPEAKER_07]: But I remember just watching that and thinking like, you know, yeah, this is how it happened.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is how you become a Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, then for me, that's just the thing of saying that, you know, we need to make sure that at sometimes in the entertainment that we have,
[SPEAKER_01]: that we make the note that some evil people are evil, and they cannot be redeemed, at least for the thing that maybe some people are trying to redeem them for.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you just say, that's not on everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they hear strictly to the rules of chess, and they be fine with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But don't put them in charge of the world for God's sake.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, I mean, I think Democrats and liberals and people on the web have finally come to that conclusion.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are just some people that are just irredeemable.
[SPEAKER_03]: right.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was once again folks, uh, this is usually used for Jody, but on that one, especially Hillary Clinton was right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Just saying.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is, this is, you know, that's, that's just the house rule.
[SPEAKER_01]: The house rule here at the politics bar is Jody is right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Belly.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the Hillary Clinton.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not quite.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to care.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are so glad that you guys come and hang out with us on Friday nights.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're sorry you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you get from last Friday night?
[SPEAKER_01]: I know it was the fourth of July.
[SPEAKER_03]: We missed you.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yes, four to five that happened, you know, with the flooding and everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a little bit different a little bit different down there although I did actually see there were some flooding here this week too in Chicago Karen as I was joking with with Jody earlier in the week.
[SPEAKER_01]: I said some people in Chicago got eight inches and other people got rain.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll see you next week.
[SPEAKER_07]: Next week.
[SPEAKER_07]: We have got some great guests coming to the bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe Brian Keram is coming and we're in
[SPEAKER_01]: Rude Pundit, excellent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, Bob Cesca will be there and John Fugelsen.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the dad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Brooklyn dad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we've got Richard Chu is coming up later this month as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have some really great guests in.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're after some others.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, well, look, you know, we will do a weekend to get all the great people in here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are glad you great people have hung out with us this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go get yourself another drink.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we gotta close the bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you next Monday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here at the park tonight.