[SPEAKER_04]: What is that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Doug or something?
[SPEAKER_04]: It is Doug.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, it's just amazing, because I didn't have that channel growing up.
[SPEAKER_04]: You did it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You were, you were a non-cable family?
[SPEAKER_02]: Non-cable.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think, let me think about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had basic only, so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: That, you don't want that make sense to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Careful.
[UNKNOWN]: Darling.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not bad, here's why.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's because I, my family, we're a TV on family.
[SPEAKER_04]: You come into a house, TV's on.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, what TV is on constantly.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it never, I don't, I don't think it's bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: It says me when I'm being unproductive.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't think it's necessarily bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you're, you're like a, like, TV on is very intentional for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Would you have the TV on if you had your druthers?
[SPEAKER_04]: You hate a room with the TV as a focal point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't like it to be a focal point.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's like more a thing that happened though after kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if it's just me and I'm home alone, I'll put on a stupid show on my computer and walk around the house ignoring it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, yeah, it makes me feel like I have company.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's how I feel.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's very rare.
[SPEAKER_04]: Even when I'm reading, I just like distraction is really what it comes down to.
[SPEAKER_04]: Distract me from my own thoughts.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just am therapy.
[SPEAKER_04]: God bless my therapist.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I like distraction.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like it to be.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think maybe that's like a form of ADD, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: So huge news.
[SPEAKER_04]: We went to medieval times yesterday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Epic news, Griffin is a prince.
[SPEAKER_01]: He, carrying, I've never seen Griff so in his element, where in the morning, I put a weird togaish thing on him, and he was like, am I a prince?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Cole and him were kind of lirpy and about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he kept calling Cole his sister.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sister, are we going to get in the car?
[SPEAKER_01]: Mother!
[SPEAKER_01]: Father, father King, father King Matt, and he was like talking so weird all morning.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like this kid, and then we got there and he was so happy.
[SPEAKER_04]: You missed what he named me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, and we got to go pick up Carrie and he goes, yeah, Carrie can be the chef.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a king.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was the queen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Matt was the king.
[SPEAKER_01]: Co was the princess.
[SPEAKER_01]: Griff was the prince and Carrie was the chef.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel good about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel good.
[SPEAKER_04]: The chef provides and then
[SPEAKER_04]: And then, or later, so we, then we get to medieval times.
[SPEAKER_04]: And no one looks more like a boy king than Griffin.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's pacing with his arms behind his back, like holding cord.
[SPEAKER_04]: And my favorite is, is because the servers, the service was amazing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because the servers were behind us.
[SPEAKER_04]: He like Griffin got to sort of like troll between the two aisles of the whole party with his hands behind his back and looking really grumpy when his night didn't do very well.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he would like lean down by our ears like lean over with his little head in between us and just start screaming.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think a bad guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: And his little voice.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was so cute.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then when so much fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he expanded his kingdom.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he went downstairs.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was getting really close to the action.
[SPEAKER_01]: He went wherever he wanted.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he told Razi was doing it because he's a prince.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like, you were like, yeah, you were a friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: So intense.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, then we went and saw puppet show and he really liked the puppet show.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was Wizard of Oz and he all night.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, you know, Tim, the man.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, Tim, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, yeah, Tim, the man.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, I think you mean the Tim, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he'd be like, I don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you're wrong on that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You did write, you did start on a show that was baselessly off of Wizard of Oz for years.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think you're wrong.
[SPEAKER_04]: And what's funny is,
[SPEAKER_04]: The character in our show was Tim Woodsman, so he's not wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, two things.
[SPEAKER_01]: What was the first?
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mask and cancer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to know what the first one was.
[SPEAKER_04]: If that's the second priority on your list, is it basal squamous or melanoma?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has to go into surgery, but they're going to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They just told him today, and they were like, yeah, you have cancer, but it's like, we are not worried about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't think it has gone past.
[SPEAKER_01]: It has to size.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're like, we're just going to do surgery on it, and Matt was like, well, I'm about to go on vacation, and I want to swim, and they were like, we'll do it after.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's going to go in for surgery on the patient.
[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of skin cancer.
[SPEAKER_01]: A casual skin cancer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Where is it on his body?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's on his face, but I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just texted me like five minutes ago and said, I have to tell you something I forget.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like what?
[SPEAKER_04]: Via text?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is wild.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did he send anything else?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, he told me not to worry.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to do surgery on it, but I can do it after the trip so that I can swim.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, you can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like it's not that big of a deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: We were talking about historic personality disorder at dinner the other night and I've just been sort of like thinking about it lately.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I actually kind of like love the idea of a character who has it and like what they would do if they have the same diagnosis as Matt and make it their whole personality.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean like I have cancer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, I'm excited about this cancer.
[SPEAKER_04]: If he's going to get cancer, let's have it the one that they're like, yeah, let's wait cut it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder what the good one to have.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm assuming it's basil sell, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know anything about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: A little too, I know about all the skin cancers because my dermatologist said she was like, it's not if it's when for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's like that too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how it goes to the dermatologist all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: His mom has had cancer several times.
[SPEAKER_01]: Skin cancer.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, he's very aware that like he has the same skin as her and it is prone to getting cancer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, the skin type that we're looking at is ultra white ultra ultra violet enemy.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's the it's the opposite of violet ultra white.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, what am I, what did I, oh, so you had the birthday party last night.
[SPEAKER_04]: We went to medieval times waking
[SPEAKER_04]: Graftog.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anything else?
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say that I had like a really amazing night in the park at the Prospect Park Swarway.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if anyone lives in Brooklyn, go to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is so great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is so beyond great where you're basically
[SPEAKER_01]: It reminded me of New Orleans because it was like you have a crew when you have to decorate a float, but it's a dining table.
[SPEAKER_01]: But people came and like were like my theme is garden and had fruit hanging dangling and a thing they made that went over the table.
[SPEAKER_01]: fake fruit all over the table, fruit fascinators, chairs that were dressed like different kinds of fruit.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just people went way over the top and the theme table.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, there was a bodega table with a cat, a stuffed cat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lucy's for sale, like you know, single cigarettes, little bags hanging, kind of that they bag your bodega stuff with those black trashy bags.
[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody at the table was brown bagging their drink.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was very, very clever.
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved it.
[SPEAKER_04]: so this was in case you know the prospect park swaray from what I understand is like you get a ticket and food and drink are not included you're just paying for this and so everybody brings their own picnic and so some people are like just bring basic picnic stuff but what you can also do is dress up tables for you though they set up
[SPEAKER_01]: tables and chairs and linens so when you show up you're like we're a group of twenty and they're like great we'll see you they find an empty twenty top they put you there you decorate the hell out of it and set up your picnic the first two hours is a live band while everyone's milling about and having dinner it's like you're at a wedding you keep running into people you know it's so fabulous each person's allowed to bring one bottle of wine and then they have wine for sale in addition and then check your bags for one bottle
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, uh, yeah, like they do, you could probably get away with, but how much you want to look into the park anyway?
[SPEAKER_01]: I only brought that fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: Matt and I only brought two bottles.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was glad we only brought two bottles.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I saw him stuffing them in a bag.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we danced as hard as we could because a DJ place for the last three hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was a really, really fun DJ that just the crowd was in love with.
[SPEAKER_01]: And
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all people my age.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like people late thirties, forties, some fifties.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's a party.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to go hard.
[SPEAKER_04]: I really want to go next year.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then they also do this thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: So basically for seven dollars, you get access to the park a table and music and lights.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like they have that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then you decorate the table and everybody brings the food that they want to eat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like if you in our case like we had so many people there was a spreadsheet so there'd be categories that was like a somebody going to bring ice is somebody going to bring on our clock drink somebody should bring this the woman that was organizing was basically like once we pick a theme I will bring the table setting and you can bring additional stuff but all bring
[SPEAKER_01]: napkin silverware cups plates and she did bring our theme was mid-summer night stream and everything she brought was like gold and sparkly and or big like leaf play settings underneath it so it looked really beautiful like each table looks very beautiful even though you're using plastic wear and you have to be in the note to get invited to this or can you just like no it's a public thing but it sells out
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a public thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's straight as many for the park.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you just buy tickets and then they're pretty organized.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the staff was really helpful.
[SPEAKER_04]: This sounds amazing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then the night before Quinn and I went to a tasting room.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So much cheap wine.
[SPEAKER_04]: What was delicious wine?
[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't cheap.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it was like six dollar glasses of wine and then a tasting and Quinn and I sat down and like we took advantage of the olives in front of us in a way that was really aggressive.
[SPEAKER_04]: And but I make no apologies for who we are.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then they described all these
[SPEAKER_04]: little bites and we just got to eat which was great.
[SPEAKER_04]: The only problem was as I was hungry when I left.
[SPEAKER_01]: We did, but then I gave you a piece of pizza.
[SPEAKER_04]: You gave me a piece of pizza?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's still hungry when I got home.
[SPEAKER_01]: We feel that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not a kind of food, but it was a kind of food that was free.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_04]: I probably could have gone to sleep, but I also had four glasses of wine where I was like, oh, I should eat something.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would be good for me.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have to give a shout out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Remember, our Patreon Julia, who we now know, how to say her name, which is
[SPEAKER_04]: Julia.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not Julia.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have to say wait.
[SPEAKER_04]: She wrote it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Julia.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: The Arkham's Razor of it all, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, what did she say she goes?
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for my juice.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was pronounced like Julia, but very close.
[SPEAKER_04]: Very close.
[SPEAKER_01]: At least we didn't pronounce it as...
[SPEAKER_01]: Hons, like what do you mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Very close.
[SPEAKER_01]: We really screwed it up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's be honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be honest.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's be honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're very sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: We apologize deeply.
[SPEAKER_04]: Julia, let this be in place of a song.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just a singer name.
[SPEAKER_04]: Julia.
[SPEAKER_02]: Julia.
[SPEAKER_01]: Julia.
[SPEAKER_04]: Julia, I'm getting three songs we can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't also.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to hear me sing today.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to hear me sing today.
[SPEAKER_04]: What did you do after the part A?
[SPEAKER_04]: Was the part A fun?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Rosie turned seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, that was really funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did RE-One.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you two?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you three?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they were like seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: Co-a-turned me and goes, Rosie's seven?
[SPEAKER_01]: Damn.
[SPEAKER_00]: like she looks good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what is happening?
[SPEAKER_00]: Damn, it's like what response?
[SPEAKER_00]: It was very funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's really good.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was telling when I was watching the kids while they were at the park, the park, the park, the park, and we were playing shadow puppets before the kids were going to bed.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like, you know, shuttle puppets can be menacing, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So we're playing playing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's lights happening.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Griffin's like, look, I got this phone to call Mama.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was calling you.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a walkie talkie.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so he was like, I'm calling Mama, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Isn't this right, Carrie?
[SPEAKER_04]: And it was like, yes, that's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I think something really scared him back and out of the nowhere.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fucking takes this walkie-talkie and whips it at the wall.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just hear like crash and he goes, look, and he goes, sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I think we're done.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're gonna go to bed.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's that what a finale.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I was like, Griffin, what did you do?
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's black marks on that wall.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he was very empowered.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think what was nice is we kind of know fight flight or freeze.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like you know what?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we knew this though.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's a fighter.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we knew this about Griffin.
[SPEAKER_01]: I carry tomorrow's my last day at my internship and I just went and bought an orchid for my... Nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Supervisor and the two women that work in my office I got little succulents for because I felt like I've been in an office with them for a year.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird to just be like, peace.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is all really good stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Recommended.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all really good stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to tell the story it's your turn.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, I'll do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, you're listening to truly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Darkly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Please, please.
[SPEAKER_01]: My story I got from an unsolved mysteries episode that was old school is hell.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was the same fucking case.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, definitely not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you sure?
[SPEAKER_01]: Click to Houston.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, knocking.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Ranker.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is in Houston.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you didn't get what I was trying to throw down that.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's in Houston.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's on and so on.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in Houston, Texas.
[SPEAKER_01]: On October, twelve.
[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't write a year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, two thousand, maybe.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wait a minute, I just realized I got I sometimes get America's most haunted and unsolved mysteries confused.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you watched America's most haunted.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I watched unsolved mysteries, but for some reason I just think it's Pat Walls, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's his name.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jack, Jack Walsh is his son, that we covered that case, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it was Sunlit Missing, so sad.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, but I'm always just like, unsolmisters, and they're not the same at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mary Lou Morris is a forty-eight-year-old loan officer.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's married to Jay, and she's doing a typical day going off to work, but
[SPEAKER_01]: When Jay tries to call her later, he cannot reach her.
[SPEAKER_01]: He calls her again and again.
[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't come home.
[SPEAKER_01]: Something is off.
[SPEAKER_01]: He calls the work.
[SPEAKER_01]: She hadn't been at work.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he reports her missing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Three miles east of their house, a man finds a burning car with a body inside it, burnt beyond recognition and calls the police.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Jay hears that this happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: He feels panicked.
[SPEAKER_01]: He picks up his stepdaughter and drives to the scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's her.
[SPEAKER_01]: Her jewelry and melted onto her body, so they are able to track her jewelry and understand that this was not motivated by theft.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything is there except her wedding band.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that wasn't worth more than some of the other stuff she had, so they're a little confused about mode of right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Three days later, in the same area in Houston, Mary Beginnes Morris, a thirty-nine-year-old nurse who looks strikingly similar to Mary Lou Morris.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's a very loved woman.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she's a nurse.
[SPEAKER_01]: We all love a nurse, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: She works forteen hours a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the staff loves her.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, all the staff with the exception of one kind of weird guy that we know she didn't get along with and she told friends that he made her feel nervous and that she felt afraid of him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the friend was like, do you really think he could hurt you?
[SPEAKER_01]: And she said, yes, I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he could do worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very creepy.
[SPEAKER_01]: She stops by her office one night to pick up papers and she sees a bunch of things moved around on her desk and pictures slipped over and she's freaked out and she goes over to his desk and he has written like you're doodling death to her and she's like that's about me.
[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't like him.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's freaked out.
[SPEAKER_01]: She calls her husband Mike.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's clearly upset.
[SPEAKER_01]: When she gets home, he's like, what do you want to do?
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, I want you to teach me how to use a gun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to get a gun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to carry a gun around for protection.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he does.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they get this gun and put it under the driver's seat in her car.
[SPEAKER_01]: A few weekends later.
[SPEAKER_01]: She meets a friend off-hours at the clinic to give them an allergy shot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds really nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I get why she was well-liked.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I was like, hey, can we just go to your work?
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you get this allergy shot for me?
[SPEAKER_04]: Hello, little histamine, little boosts of antihistamine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then she says goodbye to her friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's going to go run errands and make her family dinner goodbye.
[SPEAKER_01]: That afternoon, the friend gets a call from her and she says, I'm at a drug store and I'm freaked out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody's borrowing me around.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to go back to the office and do a few things and sign out, but I'm totally freaked out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to be on the phone with somebody.
[SPEAKER_01]: She gets off the phone and twelve minutes after making that call.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know that she calls nine one one.
[SPEAKER_01]: That phone call has not been released because her attack is heard on that phone call.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's very, very upsetting.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very disturbing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's screaming and it's the sound of a gunshot and she was found dead in her car in a remote area a few miles from her house.
[SPEAKER_01]: and burned.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, just shot, but what I think is weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so then the daughter from the first case I told you about.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mary Lou Morris, remember, has a daughter that the dad drove with the sep daughter.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's watching the news and hears her mom's name mentioned during the news cast and she's like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: She's thinking the news crew is messed up because they have some of the details of her mom's death wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's getting ready to do the funeral and all these things.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, hold up.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're getting this wrong because she's not realizing in that moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a different Mary Morris.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the also died on a car three days apart in the same area.
[SPEAKER_01]: They both died in their car.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were both murdered.
[SPEAKER_01]: No one knows who killed them.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like the terminator was Sarah Connor.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like there's a guy just going after Mary Morris or going after Sarah Connor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and the way that she finds out by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: So she's hearing the news and she's like, why are they covering my mom's case and doing such a bad job of it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Then she's talking to the funeral director and saying, I really want my mom buried with her jewelry.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they say, well, the jewelry would have been picked up with the body.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, no, no, my mom's remains.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're already picked up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to find out where her jewelry is and how to pick that up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, no, your mom is still here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mary Morris is here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they put her on hold for a really long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then they get back on the phone.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when they're like, so sorry for the confusion.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's another dead Mary Morris here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: They do an investigation on Mary McGinnis Morris's death, the one that was the nurse, and they're thinking it's that coworker, because he tried to discredit her and get her in trouble, and it didn't work, and then he ended up quitting his job.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's a definite suspect.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, her husband said he was at the movies at the time of the murder with his daughter.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there were some issues with that alibi.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not totally straight with those issues were.
[SPEAKER_01]: but he also wouldn't let his daughter be questioned at the time, so it was hard to corroborate this alibi.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Mike gets brought in.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, you know, he's the husband.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's just not an idiot where he's understands that his wife was murdered and he's the husband.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he does things that they freak out about.
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, this is vintage unsolved mysteries.
[SPEAKER_01]: So things like he asks for a lawyer and they're like, oh, really?
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the guys that they're interviewing of unsolved mysteries is like, when you need a lawyer, you did something.
[SPEAKER_01]: like, wait, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he won't take a polygraph because he's on anti anxiety medication.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just, like, that's not going to go well for me.
[SPEAKER_04]: The lawyer's going to be like, you cannot take a polygraph.
[SPEAKER_04]: I will not allow it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like a lawyer involved.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're speculating a bunch.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think what they were most upset about is that they found out that they were having marital issues and that allegedly she had had an affair with a friend and there'd been a confrontation
[SPEAKER_01]: Or there was a rumor that she had an affair and there was a confrontation and she said no, it's not true.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not totally sure what the gossip was, but there's enough gossip that they're hearing from people that knew Mary began as Morris, that they think Mike has enough of a motive that he could have done this, then they follow the money and there's a life insurance payout of seven hundred thousand dollars.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing that makes them the most crazy of all these things.
[SPEAKER_01]: that I can't make heads or tails of either is that there's a phone call.
[SPEAKER_01]: He made to his wife's cell phone at the time they believe she was murdered.
[SPEAKER_01]: The call is four minutes long and it's on the phone bill.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, yes, I called her but it just rang and I was letting it ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why it showed up on the phone bill.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're like, it wouldn't show up on the phone bill if you don't pick it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what were you doing waiting for it to ring for four minutes that doesn't make any sense?
[SPEAKER_01]: So they have this feeling of there was a call completed from her phone.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if he was out somewhere else, making that call, who picked up if she was dead?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who was on the other end?
[SPEAKER_01]: They think that it could be
[SPEAKER_01]: someone killed his wife and he had a conversation with them to confirm that.
[SPEAKER_01]: At some point, an anonymous caller reaches out to the Houston Chronicle and says, I'm not going to tell you who I am, but I am going to tell you what happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: That first murder, which was not of the nurse, but was of the loan officer, Mary Lou Morris.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was an accident.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a mistake.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a hitman who had been hired to kill Mary McGinnis.
[SPEAKER_01]: But because there's two Mary Morris is that live in the same town and look alike, he killed the wrong Mary Morris and then did the correct job the week later.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they started to think about how that first Mary Morris was missing her wedding ring and how that's a very common thing with a hitman is to bring back the wedding ring and be like, your spouse is dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: Please can't find anything specific to support any of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're looking for clues, but because they never find anything in support of this, they just have to say, we're gonna say this was a really weird coincidence that this happened.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's how they leave it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, two unsolved mysteries, same town, three days apart, both name Mary Morris, that look very, very similar.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there is some truths to that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That accidental hitman.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Mike would be the one that they would be looking at for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: His daughter now that she's older talks about it and says, it wasn't my dad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Their relationship wasn't great, but they were trying to make it better.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just want peace for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: She talks about how she can't imagine what he's been through losing this woman that he loved.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he had a fifteen-year-old daughter, he had to raise on his own.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she says she really hopes that both cases get solved and that all the families that were left behind by both women deserve peace.
[SPEAKER_01]: And to know what happened, she says she does agree that it's suspicious that these two Mary Morris is died and they were killed so close together with the same name.
[SPEAKER_01]: But to this day, neither case has been solved due to lack of evidence.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was so sad.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think it was?
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually kind of think it was a coincidence.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason I think that is if you listen to radio lab has a really good episode on coincidences, but it's called something that's here like stochacity or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Stoicicity?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's stochastic means randomly determined, having a random probability distribution or pattern.
[SPEAKER_01]: And radio lab doesn't episode on it that's really, really interesting where they open with something really wild that I'm in a botch, but I'll give you the glazed over version, a little girl named
[SPEAKER_01]: Alice writes a note and ties it to a balloon all about herself.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a pet durable name, tanky, I live, I'm an only child, I like to write a bike and sing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm Alice McGuire, and then like ties it to a balloon and sends it.
[SPEAKER_01]: the balloon ends up in a yard of a girl the exact same age born the same year named Alice that has the same kind of pet with a similar name and they have the two hobbies she listed are also her hobbies and this really happened this is a real story I just can't remember the details but everybody went absolutely bonkers when you hear about this story and they take it apart in this way that is like
[SPEAKER_01]: Coincidence is freak us out, but when you think about random probability, there has to be a certain number of coincidences, basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like things will start to match up.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's no different than the idea that when you flip a coin, there's a fifty-fifty chance that it's heads or tails no matter how many times you've flipped it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you would think, for instance, that if you flipped a coin, ninety-nine times, and it was tails every time, you'd have a feeling of, it's got to be heads next, as though there was more of a probability that it's heads, but it will remain a fifty-fifty probability, and maybe on the hundredth one it will be tails again.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's something in that neighborhood of explaining things and understanding that
[SPEAKER_01]: with all how big this world is and how many stories there are in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are bound to be a few stories like this where somebody with the same name and the same look dies in a similar way in the same town.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is truly possible.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like it was definitely more probable and possible and like ancient or like in like medieval times to borrow a phrase that we just did like because I bet a lot of people were named the same name.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I mean, the name is Mary Morris.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not a uncommon name, but
[SPEAKER_04]: the act of being murdered is incredibly uncommon.
[SPEAKER_04]: That to me is, I think, the biggest outlier is, and these two women that are not in gangs, or you have a serial killer who, or you have the Terminator, which is like, I stand by that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Have you seen the Terminator?
[SPEAKER_04]: I just saw the beginning of it recently, had never seen it before.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I didn't finish it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's a great movie, but it's like, yeah, Sarah Connor is being hunted by Zedeminated.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like, maybe that's the real life was Steven Spielberg.
[SPEAKER_04]: Was it, you know, I don't know, Mary Morris, Sarah Connor.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, but I do think the probability of being murdered is so low.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think what's weird is it's what's confusing or what's hard is that both of them have such different or different M.O.s.
[SPEAKER_04]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like we're both of them gunshot wounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: No one is burnt beyond recognition and one is shot and they're both killed in their cars.
[SPEAKER_04]: But that to me also feels unique, where I would have assumed that a hitman would have more of a... We'll have an ammo, have a way to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: This does feel like, that's the only thing that I'm like, ah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Unless it was like a very good hitman who was like, I like to sort of change my styles.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's just change it out.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like to change it out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's hate, let's, for this one.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's try a different energy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, last night I didn't tell you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Last night I got bored and I painted my nails.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I did do something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh.
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks great.
[SPEAKER_04]: This one, I'm not proud of because it looks like a, um, made belief.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's wrong with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't you think you want people to think you're Canadian?
[SPEAKER_02]: I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: But are they cool?
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_02]: They're really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: You did a great job.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have a little, a little like, um, there's a little brush that I just kind of fucked with.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was going to ask a little bit about the detailed.
[SPEAKER_04]: I bought a little like, there's three of them.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're a little brush and I just like, I never done it before and I was like, I'll try this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, my turn to tell a story.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm telling, I got this information from medium, unsolved mysteries.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Mamma Mia, I think, was another one of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anywhere.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anywhere again.
[SPEAKER_04]: My, my, how could you have died?
[SPEAKER_04]: Teresita Bassa.
[SPEAKER_04]: So Teresita Bassa, she is born in the Philippines in nineteen twenty nine and she decides she wants to move to the U.S.
[SPEAKER_04]: So she moves to the U.S.
[SPEAKER_04]: in the nineteen sixties and something about her is she loves music and she's in her thirties
[SPEAKER_04]: And she's actually planning to enroll in music classes at Indiana University, which obviously I went to Indiana University and was a part of their music program or at musical theater.
[SPEAKER_04]: She wanted to go in their music school.
[SPEAKER_04]: I get it so fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: She wanted to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then, unfortunately, she doesn't get that far.
[SPEAKER_04]: because she realizes that in order to afford this and go into school for music, she has to make money and she's also a nurse by trade.
[SPEAKER_04]: So she ends up settling and working in Chicago and she works as a respiratory therapist at the Edgewater Hospital in Chicago.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now this hospital no longer exists but it was on the north side.
[SPEAKER_04]: I looked it up.
[SPEAKER_04]: and music is still a big part of her life.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's applying to pursue a PhD in music at the time in the late seventies and she is forty eight years old.
[SPEAKER_04]: So obviously if that if you followed that math in her thirty she's like I want to roll in music and then she realized it was hard and so she went to school as a nerd or she went she went to work as a nurse and then by the time she was in her fort late forty she was like I'm gonna try to pursue this PhD in music.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still not giving up on this dream which
[SPEAKER_04]: I love that for her.
[SPEAKER_04]: She would work in the hospital during the day and then she would teach neighborhood kids the piano for free.
[SPEAKER_04]: So she was super sweet.
[SPEAKER_04]: She was pretty quiet.
[SPEAKER_04]: She was unassuming.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's February, twenty first day after your birthday, nineteen seventy seven and a neighbor sees Tara seat as a apartment with black smoke coming from the window.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they call the fire department.
[SPEAKER_04]: The fire department gets there when they enter.
[SPEAKER_04]: They find that it's just her living room.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a blaze and so they're able to put it out and it's mostly contained to the living room.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they see in the middle of the room there's a mattress that's on fire.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so once they put the fire out, they lift up the mattress and they see Terracita's body under it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she is naked.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she is dead, not from the fire.
[SPEAKER_04]: She has been stabbed in the chest.
[SPEAKER_04]: She has a knife embedded in her chest.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they start to investigate what has happened and they believe because of the state of her body that she was undressed that it was probably sexually motivated, that she was possibly sexually assaulted and the fire was to cover up the crime scene.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, while there is evidence that she was assaulted, which they didn't get into, my assumption is that her body was naked.
[SPEAKER_04]: They did do an autopsy and they determined that she was not raped.
[SPEAKER_04]: The cause of death, like I said, was the knife wound, not the fire, and they start to investigate her death.
[SPEAKER_04]: They can't find anyone with a motive to hurt her.
[SPEAKER_04]: They think maybe it's a burglary gone wrong, but the police don't find any big evidence of theft.
[SPEAKER_04]: Her family notes that her jewelry is gone.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because of the fire, they did not have a lot of evidence at all surrounding her death.
[SPEAKER_04]: What they did find was a memo that just said, quote, get theater tickets for AS, the initials AS.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so they think maybe AS is involved in the murder and they start looking in and their family, her friends, there's no AS.
[SPEAKER_04]: they look into her boyfriend who they heard sometimes she argued with.
[SPEAKER_04]: But again, there's not enough evidence to go beyond just suspecting him.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so they're thinking, okay, maybe something to do with his AS, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: She'd get theater tickets for AS, maybe
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, she did tell a friend that night that a man was coming to her home at seven thirty.
[SPEAKER_04]: The day she died, so maybe that was A.S.
[SPEAKER_04]: again, they're like, the police have nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: They have no clue.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's been five months since her death and she worked with this woman, Remi Boss Chua, who goes by Remi and she's married to her husband Jose, who's a surgeon.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's the same hospital.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so the death of her friend obviously weighs heavily on this community.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're both Filipino, and they work together.
[SPEAKER_04]: And obviously it's very scary to think something happened to your friend and to not know what happened.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so Remi is plagued by the memory of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And one day she's taking a nap and Jose or husband is nearby.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she sort of starts talking in her sleep in another voice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jose says, and he recognizes the voice is not Remi's and the voice says, Doctor, I need your help.
[SPEAKER_04]: The man who murdered me is still at large.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then Remi, while a sleep starts speaking in Tagalog, which is the language of the Philippines.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, Remi also speaks Tagalog, but it's not a language that Remi typically speaks often.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she's speaking it in a different accent.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Jose is listening to his wife sort of take on this speech, this personality.
[SPEAKER_04]: And in this voice, she says that she is Teracita.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she reveals that her killer's name is Alan Showery.
[SPEAKER_04]: So specific.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if you recall, yes, Alan Showery.
[SPEAKER_04]: Teracita's voice then says that this man who killed her is an orderly that works at the hospital and that Joan needs to go to the police and tell them what happened.
[SPEAKER_04]: So Rami then comes to and Jose is like, whoa, can you believe that just happened and Rami's like, what just happened?
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, the voice that you said, you know, the thing that you told me that you were Teracita and you named your killer and she was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
[SPEAKER_04]: No recollection.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so Jose is like, that's super weird.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if I can actually go to the police and be like, hey, my wife took a nap and she started chit chatting about Teracy, doesn't murder her.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't have enough evidence.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just gonna ignore this.
[SPEAKER_04]: This seems like maybe she stressed.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: So then, Remi is like, that is crazy, but I have been having dreams or visions of Teracita, like begging me to go to the police and telling the police what happened to her, but I don't know what happened to her, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't really miss my friend.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so Jose is like, I'm not gonna go to the police, whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: So then Remi, a couple, I don't know how much longer later, but Remi takes another nap.
[SPEAKER_04]: And once again, she takes another nap.
[SPEAKER_04]: Good for her.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Tara's seat to appears.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Jose is there.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Tara's seat to start asking Jose why have you not gone to the police?
[SPEAKER_04]: And Tara's seat is says, well, why have you not gone to the police?
[SPEAKER_04]: And then Jose goes, well, I don't have any evidence against this man.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't just go to the police.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then Tara's seat is voice goes, well, he took my jewelry and he gave it to his girlfriend.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Jose is like, OK, well, Remi comes to and she's like,
[SPEAKER_04]: What what happened?
[SPEAKER_04]: I took a lovely nap and he's like, well, I communed with a spirit.
[SPEAKER_04]: This doesn't feel restful.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so Jose is like, OK, I'm going to bring this finally.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now that I have the kernel of information, I'm going to bring it to the police and just like offload the information.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to be haunted by this by this woman through my wife's sleep, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So Jose goes to the detective Joe Stacula or Stacula.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, all right, I'm hearing this information.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if I can trust this information or not.
[SPEAKER_04]: Your wife said it in her sleep.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, let's see what happens.
[SPEAKER_04]: So he's like, I'm going to start slow.
[SPEAKER_04]: He started to do a background check on Alan Showery, and he finds that he lives close to his terrace seat to her house.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he looks at his history, and he has priors for robbery and sexual assault.
[SPEAKER_04]: And interestingly enough, when he starts digging deep, her co-workers at the hospital that they both work at, because Alan Showery isn't orderly at the hospital at Edgewood Hospital.
[SPEAKER_04]: Co-workers are like, yeah, he was planning on going to her apartment that night to repair her television.
[SPEAKER_05]: What?
[SPEAKER_04]: So the man that she had said was going to come over is, in fact, Allen, which I also was curious to get theater tickets for AS.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's coming over.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that the way she was going to pay him?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't able to connect those dots.
[SPEAKER_04]: But he was so supposed to come over there.
[SPEAKER_04]: So now Detective Joe is like, all right, I have that he lives nearby and that he was going to be at her home the night of her murder.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, okay, let's bring him in for questioning.
[SPEAKER_04]: So he brings Alan in for questioning and Alan's like, yeah, no, I did go to her apartment, but I didn't have the proper tools to fix her TV so that I went back home.
[SPEAKER_04]: And when I went back home, I had to fix some electrical problems at my house.
[SPEAKER_04]: And my girlfriend who I live with can corroborate this because electrical problems.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so detective Joe's like, huh.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if I believe you, Alan.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's dig deeper.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's lift this log and see what's underneath.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so he calls Alan's girlfriend and he's like, hey, how about that crazy night with electrical problems?
[SPEAKER_04]: And his girlfriend's like electrical problems.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, hmm, that feels like not a strong alibi.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he goes, hey, have you received any jewelry from your boyfriend recently?
[SPEAKER_04]: Just curious.
[SPEAKER_04]: wondering if you know and he's like and she's like well, yeah, that's crazy I did I actually did get some jewelry from him in February as a late Christmas present and I don't know if you know this This woman was murdered February twenty first so She'd got some jewelry in February so he tells her he's like hey
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to give you an option.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you want to bring in this jewelry?
[SPEAKER_04]: Just to like, exonerate your boyfriend, but we'd love to have Teracy just friends and family kind of take a look at it and see if it looks familiar.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we're just looking for answers anywhere.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she's like, okay, sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'll bring it in.
[SPEAKER_04]: So she brings it in.
[SPEAKER_04]: She brings in the jewelry.
[SPEAKER_04]: Teracy just friends and family look at it and they're like, holy shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is Teracy does jewelry.
[SPEAKER_04]: How do you have it?
[SPEAKER_04]: And so once they have the jewelry, this is a little bit like an alibi.
[SPEAKER_04]: They confront Alan Shory and he confesses to the murder.
[SPEAKER_04]: he says he did go to her place and he didn't have tools and he did leave that part of the story was true but he planned to return to rob her she was well she was better off than he was and so he had made this plan and he knew she had a good amount of money and he was having financial difficulty he was behind on his rent so he used the TV story to gain access to her home
[SPEAKER_04]: Once he returned, she let him in and when she turned to lock the door, he grabbed her from behind and attacked her.
[SPEAKER_04]: He says he did not touch her sexually, but he took off her clothes to make it look like a sexual crime and then took her mattress and put it over her body and set it on fire.
[SPEAKER_04]: All of this he did for the jewelry and a grand total of thirty dollars in cash.
[SPEAKER_04]: He pleads, he confesses to the police, but when the time comes for the case, he pleads not guilty for her murder.
[SPEAKER_04]: The defense lawyer in his case has never in my knowledge has a man been arrested because of the vision.
[SPEAKER_04]: He also said that this woman, Remi, she fakes the visions because she was fired from their hospital and she has anger against Alan.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the first case that they bring to trial where he pleats not guilty, it's a hungry, it's a mistrial.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not long after, he ends up pleading guilty, and he pleads out so he gets a better cushy deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: He is now guilty on arson, robbery, and murder.
[SPEAKER_04]: He is sentenced to four years each for robbery and arson in only fourteen years for the murder, with the possibility of parole after seven.
[SPEAKER_04]: Apparently, he's a very nice kind prisoner and his sentence is reduced to four years for good behavior.
[SPEAKER_04]: So he entered prison in nineteen seventy nine and he is released in nineteen eighty three.
[SPEAKER_04]: This case was on unsolved mysteries in nineteen ninety and it is one of the few crimes that was solved before at the broadcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the unsolved mystery is did Teracita channel through her friend Remy to solve her own crime.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a very popular case where it's like the victim solved her own crime feasibly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, skeptics will question whether Remi knew something, maybe Remi knew about this meeting with Alan the Knight of Taristitas murder.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe they made up this story about her communing because they didn't want to be implicated in what they knew.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: By saying, my wife had this vision, you could get away Scott free of like, I don't know what happened.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't ask me anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: maybe she connected the dots in her own, maybe Allen made her feel weird, maybe something happened in her dream.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the jury bit, I think is so wild.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and so maybe that was inadvertent.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, but all of the things in the dream that Remy had heard, that Remy had spoke through her mouth, whether she was conscious of it or not, all came to fruition, all worked true.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is so crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I can't believe that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't know if many other cases can exist in that, but to your point is it a coincidence, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like to your point.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it spot on?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Woo!
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, I hope Teracita, I hope you haunt everyone's asses.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I hope you haunt Allen's ass.
[SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or I hope you have peace.
[SPEAKER_04]: I hope you, I hope after that justice was served, you're able to live on an island and enjoy a piñaclada.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so you deserve it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just employ all the music, your heart, desire.
[SPEAKER_00]: Relax, fashion.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's also just like the fact that he came in and robbed her and murdered her feels also really, like all of it doesn't totally, you're like, I'm, for what was it all for?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a little wet part.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really, really dicey.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And also like her jewelry.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a story of Teracitabasa.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a shorty button.
[SPEAKER_04]: Here we are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go to bed.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go to bed.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to go.
[SPEAKER_04]: Where?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, what are you going to go to?
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to see this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm seeing Lindsay Hope Proman's show tonight at the green room.
[SPEAKER_04]: Forty two.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're seeing tears.
[SPEAKER_04]: A rock and roll of star.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm seeing my friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be a blast.
[SPEAKER_04]: some extent.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's at nine thirty, which feels and it's an hour fifteen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: At least they know.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a reading.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm like start that late.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's start early, but I'm going to make, I'm going to make some dinner.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's nice to know that you can like make dinner beforehand and not feel like if I think it's at seven, you go to a show.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're like, oh, and then you know what I think I'm doing tomorrow when I didn't tell you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tell me.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm doing it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm seeing Titanic.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna have so much fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's gonna rock my world.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna feel all the feelings and I'm excited to be there.
[SPEAKER_04]: The friend Alex who had seen it was like, carry it's closing.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to see this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, okay, and he's like, we can get rushed tickets.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, okay, so I'm gonna get rushed tickets.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna have a blast.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna have fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm upset.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I go to see my family on Wednesday and I'm so...
[SPEAKER_04]: excited to see my nephews my brothers birthday is today and last night my whole family was together and there's I'm gonna show you because they're so cute I love them so much look at those cuties look at those little faces they're so cute I'm so excited and then we was talking to them yesterday on FaceTime and Tommy was like
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it was also the other thing I forgot to tell you about watching them on Saturday.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was COA.
[SPEAKER_04]: We made this like, they had started this epic, epic fort that I think I sent you pictures of.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was so good.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Griffin had these goggles that were so cute, but COA kept being like, carry.
[SPEAKER_04]: Take a picture and send it to your nephews.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's very sweet.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was really sweet.
[SPEAKER_00]: They got to see my fort game.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's strong.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, this is great.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not going to believe it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But on the phone call, they were like running around, like, mayhem, and I'm so excited to be a part of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so excited for you.
[SPEAKER_04]: I am.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Goodbye, dear readers.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see you next time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye, dear readers.