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[SPEAKER_00]: Bob and everybody hello and welcome to popcorn culture.
[SPEAKER_00]: My name is Ben Garland and I am your host here with me today's my brother Jay who will be in every episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am yeah, I'm here again and you know what last week we ended up spending basically the whole episode talking about my trip to thirty a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. J's works week ever a lot of Mr. Front Bull.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Front Bull in his pickle car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a bunch of pancakes on his head or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Something like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Charlie at some point in time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe some like poorly sliced avocado toast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, do you like Richard scary was such a thing when we were kids?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't feel like it's anywhere now.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you brought that up last week, so we were talking about Mr. Fumble's birthday ever, which is a book that we loved when we were kids because we thought it was hilarious.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually wrote an entire personal cartoon called Box Man, the Adventures of Box Man or something like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm pretty sure that the singular inspiration for Mr. Fumble's birthday was a Mr. Fumble rip off?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I was inspired by him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote it like fourth grade.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, so what I mean now that you've had like, I don't know, looking hours since we last recorded to reflect on your your week off.
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you feel about it?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel really good about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the, you know, we had our trials and tribulations on the trip, but honestly, like I am only, I don't like, I'm only remembering having fun on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was, you know, the problems weren't like, they were like hurdles, but they weren't like, like, this ruined my day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we came home, because we came home on like Tuesday, we had like a nice little staycation afterwards as well to like just sort of like relax and be at home and like just not have any like worries or anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is really nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel like more and more of the phrase like I need a vacation from my vacation is coming up and I mean, I like I get it, you know, because so often like especially when we do like our Disney trips, it's like you get down there and it's like it's it's not even like high octane or anything like that, but you're you're up early.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have long days.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're walking twenty thousand plus steps a day.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're eating a weird diet.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've got your kids who are all sort of like
[SPEAKER_00]: in varying stages of either just like in states of sheer elation or exhausted from the heat.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of moving parts that you're kind of constantly balancing inside of those particular journey.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's like a real termination to maximize your time on vacation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is probably like born of the like
[SPEAKER_01]: like a, maybe a lack of fake, you know, maybe not enough, like people don't have enough vacation time, so that it's like, oh, well, when I've got it, I got to make sure I'm really using it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that ends up resulting in like not being super relaxing, ultimately.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, it's very true.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the average time off per year is, but let's say it's somewhere in the proximity of like two to three weeks.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like you have a fifty to week year, which means that like forty nine weeks, forty eight weeks, you're you're working and then you get like the free time.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like left.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you get like the pre time that's left, but but this was what I was running to you know when I had like my job at the concert venue was that like a lot of times you you might have like two or three weeks off but like one of those weeks is Christmas like you know it's not really like like um... vacation time like you have to take that time off or else you know or maybe you maybe you don't but then you have to go to work like the week after Christmas and then that typically runs in the travel things and it feels dumb because
[SPEAKER_01]: No no one else is there.
[SPEAKER_01]: No no one's getting like like if you're at work between December twenty six and New Year's like it's just you're not like what are you getting done you know as you if you're in a business that passes like you know connect with other offices like good luck they're not there
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's such a common time of year to take off.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're exactly right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like if you're using one of your weeks for the for the, you know, winter holidays and stuff like that, then the invariably what you're doing is like it's very like it's spoken for.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess this is what it comes down to.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not here to complain about Christmas.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's such a fun and joyous day and it's really so thrilling.
[SPEAKER_00]: Only more fun now that we have kids too.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have these singular slices where we're going.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get this in.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that being said though, my week off, I spent down in Smith-Hunt Lake, Virginia, which is basically like my, I guess this is like what would formerly have been like my Vermont trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now that I've got like the boat, like everything's operational and all that, like it's a little bit easier to just do it from home.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I will say that one of the huge advantages of going out of vacation somewhere that's forty five minutes from my house is that you're not dealing with the insane like, okay, I had to drive.
[SPEAKER_00]: six hours or take a flight or like I mean we're living in travel from the yes yeah like so my brother-in-law Mike was there and like there was like one day where he literally like went back because he forgot that he scheduled a like a dental cleaning and so he like left vacation to drive back to town to go to his appointment and then come back again wow you know so it's like it's like
[SPEAKER_00]: We're close enough that like realistically certain things are just completely doable and it's not even that big of a thing convenience on everything else So that's really nice because it also means like you know the packing the traveling like you're not dealing with like some of the same variables But this was this was like one of the weird accolades I guess if you will you'll call it that for my week is that I didn't shower you didn't shower for a whole week I didn't shower for a week Wow, did you like do like a like a like a lake back?
[SPEAKER_00]: I sort of like a lake like, yeah, like, you know, I mean, you're sort of like rinse it off in the lake.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say and I have now read more about this and I regret to say I actually made a bit of a faux paw, but there is a soap that you and I both are huge fans of called Dr. Bronner's magic soap.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to the best of my knowledge, I was like, oh, this is like very like eco-friendly soap.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it is like the number one soap that they would recommend you use for like backpacking and camping and like wilderness stuff and all that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But apparently you need soil for it to like break down.
[SPEAKER_00]: So at one point time, I did wash my hair in the lake.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh, this is okay because I'm using like the Dr. Bronner's like eco soap and it's all natural and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it turns out that is just not true.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I felt like I almost had to like come clean on that front because I was like,
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like I was not supposed to do that apparently and I may have made a bit of a mess up so my apologies I will fix it but yeah otherwise that was like my week so of course I'm at the lake so I was in an out of water three to four times a day so like I'm being fully exposed
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, to being rinsed off like you're being rinsed off, but you're then you're covered in like lake water and sunscreen and sweat and all that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't, I don't think I ever became like foul, uh, hopefully.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, it's so funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is like one of those very long time ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this was back in like two thousand and ten.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was still in college in Dad and I went to an aquarium conference and ended up being like
[SPEAKER_00]: life changing because we ended up meeting somebody who like led me to like all of my major aquarium endeavors.
[SPEAKER_00]: But while we were there we're staying in the hotel room and I remember we got back to the room at night and we were watching like the science of attraction or something like that and it was it was breaking down like all of the these like different social experiments and and sort of like how we are attracted to other people and apparently like your natural scent to people who are like a good
[SPEAKER_00]: natural fit for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just smells good.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think like ever since being Alice had been together, this has just just turns out to be true.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like shit, it seems like she can't interpret me as smelling badly, which is for the most part, a very good thing, because I don't think I'm ever not just around her, which is which is ideal.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then a lot of times I'm like, how do I smell bad?
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, no, I think you smell good.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, you're not the right person to ask.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then you can't ask anyone else.
[SPEAKER_00]: They come smell me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Come smell me.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not doing that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not doing that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you really like, at some point, did you like realize like, oh, it's been three days and I just haven't showered yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm gonna like, now I'm gonna see if I can hang on to the finish line.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, at some point, now it's got like a personal chance.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like, maybe it first was just sort of like, yeah, it wasn't convenient for a while, but now I'm seeing how far I can go.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I don't, I don't know that I really think about it because like there's, it's like you wake up and I think that since I've had Addison, this is not even like the first time where this is like largely been true on a trip I went on.
[SPEAKER_00]: But most of the time any vacation I go on will at some point in time involve a scenario where you get like medium grade dressed up to go somewhere on a vacation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, like whether it's like okay, like we're all going out to the dinner tonight or like there's like a
[SPEAKER_00]: Like an outlet mall or something like if I was gonna go like try on clothes I'm absolutely showering before I like go and expose that aspect of myself to the world and leave that behind forever and for always but otherwise it's like you know I don't
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean it's funny because like there was more than one occasion where I fell asleep sitting up in a chair so like clearly I had time at different moments throughout the trip but like you wake up in the morning and you're like immediately like in parent mode and getting like breakfast and all those types of things squared away and figured out you get all that taken care of then you naturally progressed from like
[SPEAKER_00]: coffee and breakfast to sunscreen and towels and getting like all those things ready.
[SPEAKER_00]: You go down and you're you're playing in the water for a period of time until it's lunch time and you come back up and kind of like rinse and repeat the process.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like it's let someone you're like, do I do you shower?
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, went, went.
[SPEAKER_01]: Should I go for bed?
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause like then I'm just going to wake up and go immediately get dirty again.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's like part of the thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like a lot of it, too, is like, we were getting to the end of every night.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I go down and I would do like bedtime without a sin.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then like everybody was kind of like waiting on me to come back upstairs, like start the evenings festivities.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like getting into like whatever we're gonna get into that name.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so a lot of times it's sort of like, well, I was doing bedtime might be like an opportunity for everybody else to like clean up and do all those kinds of things.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know, I just, but I was just never did bedtime.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, we tagged team did.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say we tagged it for most of the week, but when Adi is out of her natural sleeping environment, like we've been really good.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the number one recommendation that I make to people who are like expecting children is like sleep training is like the like the the thing that we did that worked really, really well.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it meant like we were getting full night, especially like earlier and like, at ease been like reliable and like we have like an entire like sequence of events and like, I mean, I don't know if it just adds in like she might just like naturally predisposed to like this working like I think about you waking up early like when we're kids like
[SPEAKER_00]: You were never the kid who mom had to go and like shake their leg like ten times the morning to get ready for school because like you would just pop up in the morning.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like that's just like a great natural feature of like who you were as a child from a parent's perspective.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I don't know like maybe Addy's just good at this, but we did sleep training and I was super skeptical of it, but it worked.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the only hiccup to having something that works when it's like living inside of its system is that when you step outside of the system, things tend to not work as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So bedtime is like a little bit more like a fiasco because you kind of have to like accommodate like the fact that she's eating an unusual diet.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's in an unusual place.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a bunch of different people there.
[SPEAKER_00]: All of whom she's excited about.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're doing like all the, all the ups and downs all the rounds.
[SPEAKER_00]: Plus then she's usually like,
[SPEAKER_00]: The classic thing with children is that they get so tired that they're impossible to put a bed because they get so upset Yeah, it's tired to sleep too tired to sleep Yeah, so it ends up being like it's something so anyway It's it's not really like the first time when I've been on a vacation where this has happened to me like we're out like I'll get to the end of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like I have a shower that one time.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was in the outdoor shower and like I don't even really count absolutely counts.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I do love good outdoor shower.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who does I want me to not know shower?
[SPEAKER_00]: aspiration for my life is to have like a like a like a like a primary bedroom suite with a deck that comes off of it and be able to like walk out onto the deck and have like a little barrier between like we're like my two chairs would sit like we'll count to the forest yeah and around that barrier is like an outdoor shower oh man I'm surprised when I build on that right now should we be maybe we should okay okay I like I like where he's at cool yeah this is working out well yeah sounds like a really good spot to take a outdoor shower
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my thought too.
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, that was my one weird thing about the whole week.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the other thing I'll say about it, because I always remember this.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I was probably in like ninth grade, I'm gonna go with ninth grade, maybe eighth grade.
[SPEAKER_00]: I started to get like, you know, acne as, as you do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Adolescent teens tend to do puberty and yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember like I got like the cleaning clear face wash for the first time with like the little like exploding beads.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was the first time in my life leading up to being out of a thirteen when my shower regime didn't involve a generic bar of soap and like
[SPEAKER_00]: Swav or laurel shampoo, you know, or like whatever the stuff that like cost like ninety nine cents at the store was.
[SPEAKER_00]: And for the most part, I probably used all of those products completely interchangeably.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I was washing my hair with a bar, so that would be yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, who what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm back up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have since had a bar of soap for shampoo and I will say that they're like when it's specifically designed that way it works really well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all for bar of soap.
[SPEAKER_01]: I make my own shampoo with time oils actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: It smells like smells like clocks.
[SPEAKER_00]: It smells like time.
[SPEAKER_00]: It smells like minutes of the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, the thing I remember about this phase of my life though, was that I think it coincided with growing my hair out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd always had a buzz cut for the longest period of time, you know, and then like my forehead starts to be like covered in these breakouts, and I'm just so embarrassed.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like partly I'm watching like Steve Prefonte and I'm a cross-country runner doing all those types of things.
[SPEAKER_00]: He had like the long hair, kind of grown out the long hair, whatever, like kind of like prepped.
[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing was like, well, if I grow up in here, then you can't see my forehead, which is just basically covered and break out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got like the big or like the washing my face regime.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember that they're ended up being like a canoe camp that I was going to go on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be out on the river for like four days.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was going to be like, I don't have access to any of this type of stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we are not going to be taking showers.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you just, I was like, I'm going to be so gross about how to get back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember I got back and my skin was like flawless.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like whoa, like if you like let your like, you know natural oils do what your natural oils are gonna do sometimes sometimes there are other benefits.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And turn the just you know use you use God's water there in the river.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm using this I only bay then fresh water streams.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure I smelled bad, but you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Your face was clear.
[SPEAKER_00]: One not to Alice and two and it happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not to Alice.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know her yet, but, but if I had, I mean, your skin looks clear right now, you know, usually does these days, so maybe it's not, you know, not the lake water work, but maybe it's just that you're in your thirties, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh man, other brief aside about this canoe trip though, when I was a kid, is that it was, it was a religious centered canoe camping experience.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as you know, I'm not particularly wise.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what my counselor would have had you believe.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not I am not a particularly religious person and I would say I also usually was like star pupil never gotten trouble everything was like all good no problems whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was not a trouble maker
[SPEAKER_00]: I think on this particular trip, I got established a little bit early that me and the head counselor guy did not see eye to eye on things.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I felt like there were lots of precautions in mornings and probably safety related things that he was really big on when I was like, I feel like you're overreacting and everything's going to be fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things notably he didn't want us to do was to jump headfirst off of our canoes into the water because you don't know what's in the river or how deep it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was pretty reasonable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I remember at one point in time I was getting really good at like standing on like the actual like bow of the boat because my my good buddy at the time John was in the back.
[SPEAKER_00]: and he we keep everything nice and anchored for me and I could stand on the front of the boat and I went like swan dive off and I went like just enough underwater to like make myself go away and then my two hands caught a rock whoa like before smashing my face into it and I mean it would have been it would have been like diving face first into a rock yeah and I remember popping up and he like he was so upset with me he was like you cannot do that and I was like it's fine
[SPEAKER_01]: Look.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, does anything look like this?
[SPEAKER_01]: But then like you see this face.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's clean.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glowing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glowing.
[SPEAKER_01]: My skin is better than it's been in months, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: If TikTok was a thing right now, I'd be popping off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I had a similar experience once a part of time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a good friend John's pool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, which I won't recommend this to anyone ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but we had, uh, we, I think we'd had like a libation or so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not smart to get, like, to have some libations and then find the diving board, but I did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is a cautionary tale.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is why I did it ultimately.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I could tell you not to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, I'm sure it's not no longer the politically correct term for, but it was like, called like a suicide dive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, yes, where you would jump and you would basically like just go.
[SPEAKER_01]: You do a dive, but rather than putting your hands above your head, you put them on your sides until you're just going like face first into the water, or forehead first, probably.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I remember thinking that was like a fun thing to do and like the deep end, there would ever, but a John's pool doesn't that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there was a deep end, but like it was pretty short if you didn't go straight down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there was like a big wrap and I just launched.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could jump, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know where Brad, but I'm like, bro, I'm serious.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm serious.
[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron, this particular dive, and I hit the water phase first, and I mean, I, yeah, I like, I think I brought my hands up and like, I swear, like my whole body came to a dead halt from full speed, like two inches from the, from like the, the hill that leads you to the deep end.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like do this down like have no idea how I stopped myself from moving like I was moving through the water so fast and I should have smashed into the bottom and I don't know my like either my hands just reacted and just pushing off water or just I don't know I was to that I think about it to this day and I'm like that was a really dumb.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly why you shouldn't do that kind of dive and so don't do it
[SPEAKER_00]: I have had an idea for like a kind of like a dark comedy style film called Nine Lives and the idea behind Nine Lives is that you have nine of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, so maybe like all the characters names will be like Calico.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like buttercup.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tom.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can't make your just Tom.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the idea, because you and I've talked about some of these like weird instances in our life before like where like I famously had like the the back flip into the ravine where I like over rotated and landed on my back from
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, fifty feet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a lot of times I look back on that and I'm like, I don't know how I came out the other side on that situation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was, it was the single dumbest thing I've ever done.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when people talk about like when you're like young and feel invincible, it's like, I can go back to that moment and remember in my head being like, what could happen?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'll be fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and it was sort of like, is like you're afraid of doing the jump.
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can remember being afraid of doing the jump.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you will be fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: All you have to do is just let your feet leave the rock.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I did and it turned out real bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so the idea that would be that like, throughout the course of this series of events, you'd be like witnessing this like group of teens, effectively doing the shit in and against that we got up to as kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you'd be witnessing like a little like scrape kind of like coming across like the screen, like doing tally marks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Each time one of like the instances happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the idea is that once you've reached the ninth one, then like the math the one that like goes awry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, if that would happen, so it's like, like, like, you know, fate, whatever you want to call it, you know, will intervene nine times.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But after the nine time, it's like, that's like, when it's like, it doesn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, but probably that'd be an interesting movie because then like, probably by the time you've had like, you know, for, or five of these situations in your life, you've just become a gent, like, as life is, you just become a naturally way more cautious person.
[SPEAKER_00]: precisely so like a lot of people like you know in their youth would would expend five of these you know one way or another right and yeah without ever really like realizing it because like I there was that there was another one that I was remember where um again a diving board I was trying to do what's called an inward dive which is like a really weird maneuver because you stand on the end of the diving board as if you're gonna do like a backflip
[SPEAKER_00]: But instead of jumping away from the board going backwards, you jump out and then you actually like lean towards the board and then you dive like going in the opposite direction.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you follow?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and that like I think the first time I ever tried it the the huge fear of doing an inward is that you're not gonna jump out far enough and your face is gonna hit you in the board Yeah, the board and so like you know I have another one of these memories where it was sort of like I jumped out and it was like somehow I didn't hit the board, but I'm pretty sure I hit the board, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like like I obviously didn't and maybe that's like one of those where it's like even things that feel close aren't as close as they seem
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was too close for comfort.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, so that would have been like one of my like like, you know, the like would have been like a black screen that would like fill fill like whatever and you would say like white like pencil mark just go like
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's a good one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the adventures of Tom and Calico.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nine lives.
[SPEAKER_00]: The theater near you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Circa of twenty thirty six.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to have theaters then.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just narrow logically plug into the thing and I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna make guesses on things like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, anyway, so what if I cover it so far?
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, near to these in shower.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that does the men in shower for a week.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have since showered.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, actually I do know what you mean because I feel like when whenever we go to the beach.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think maybe I would have at times like this, but like just being in the ocean would like clear my skin up and my I feel like I would have really good hair at the beach.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, the salt water.
[SPEAKER_00]: The sea salt spray is like this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just like natural sea salt spray.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just go in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let it dry, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's always windy at the beach, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how wind blows.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's getting a little awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so anyway, yeah, so didn't shower for a week got that taken care of.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things that I talked about on the pop in recent weeks was bringing a project to work on on my truck because apparently all the time that I wasn't going to use showering at totally good if used to make a modification like install new new truck speakers.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you brought a Grandpa Jack project with you on the trip on purpose.
[SPEAKER_00]: on purpose yeah and you know it was really funny because I I was thinking about this too but like when we go on tour for through the griffin tour yeah there there is like a kind of magic that I experience and it's it's really strange but I think what's happening to be while I'm out there is it's like because we are
[SPEAKER_00]: We're out there to work.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the driving force.
[SPEAKER_00]: We happen to be in interesting locations, so we do a good job taking advantage of those opportunities.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's good for team bonding, team morale, just general life experiences to be like, we're in Seattle.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to go see the space needle.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not always in Seattle, so make sure that you get to take in the sights and sounds and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think when I'm on like regular vacation I sometimes have a really hard time embracing these things because I like I almost feel like I am like guilty for not having been like more productive.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when we're on tour I'm able to like really fully appreciate everything we're doing because I'm like I earned the ability because like we did a show last night I earned the ability to enjoy this breakfast sandwich this morning of this like cool place or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like sometimes it's struggle with that on vacation.
[SPEAKER_00]: So okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like sometimes I actually feel like it would be like good for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if it was our like house to like wake up, do breakfast, do that whole thing and then like go mow the lawn and then go jump in the lake.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it would be like, okay, I did something.
[SPEAKER_01]: I earned the strip of the lake.
[SPEAKER_00]: I earned the strip of the lake.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, all the work you do here at the office doesn't feel like it translates to like you earning any of the things for being on vacation.
[SPEAKER_00]: For some reason, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's like I almost need like like doing things that are required for the baseline expectation of living my life or exactly that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I have to do those things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those things must be done.
[SPEAKER_00]: So then it's like, it's even interesting because I think like sometimes like home projects like if I'm like, if I'm like building something, it could be extremely fulfilling because I have exceeded the baseline minimum.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, but knowing my own lawn at home, that's required.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just a chore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's like, you know, it's like, I don't, I don't get to the end of the day and I'm like, oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not alone today.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's like, I'm like, well, I had a mid-long today, so I got that done.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Check.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Got to not shower after that, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's when you need it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But when you grow in the garden, like, no one's making you do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So then it's like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you're going above and beyond.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're interacting with the land.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I wonder then if you're like a farmer and it's like your entire livelihood is making sure these things grow.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably very stressful.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did I have a little twang?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a little twang, they're on farmer on livelihood.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I have yet another tangent to go off on them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
[SPEAKER_00]: So another thing that I think is really funny right now is that
[SPEAKER_00]: When we were kids growing up, we grew up in like a quite a rural town.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it wouldn't surprise me if many of our fellow classmates parents had tractors.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we had growing up really like Southern Twangy accents.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was interesting because both of our parents were from up north.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like we were not getting our Southern accents from them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it wasn't coming from like, oh, it was coming from, yeah, from the community.
[SPEAKER_00]: The community, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: The people around you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so one of the things I think is very funny right now is that Addison has like certain words that when she says them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Total Southern twang.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very twangy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very twangy.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's got this like a little like Southern Southern like something to her that she did.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's just, I'm like, it's so wild because no one at home speaks that way.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know most of her teachers, they don't really speak that way, but like someone in her life, you know, must be.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, it's like a wonder like how like infectious in a good way.
[SPEAKER_00]: accents can be too impressionable young kids or if the reason that accents exist is almost because it's like the same reason like word like like ma and pa or dad or mom or like oftentimes despite languages being different
[SPEAKER_00]: end up being very similar sounding things like across many languages yeah because they're like very easy words for young children to say so I almost wonder if like like a more
[SPEAKER_00]: What's up?
[SPEAKER_00]: What's a good one to describe this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the more secluded you are from the rest of the world, the more likely you are to speak in these accents.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if if it's like easy for kids to pick them up because it's almost more of like a natural way would speak.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the more refined our voices get is almost like that's because like adults can pick up accents too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, can they?
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Huh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I don't really think of adults picking up accents.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think of adults as losing accents.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, I think that's that happens, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think you can pick them up if you're an adult.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I think when our parents moved down here, and then they would go back up North, all of them would be like, oh, yes, I'm more Southern.
[SPEAKER_00]: You said y'all.
[SPEAKER_01]: You said y'all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all is the better word.
[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all is a better word.
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, that would be like where I would like plant my steak where I'm like it's like it's a far more inclusive word like yeah, it's like you know I I do it all the time see like when we're we're like a lot of times I will like intro into something like guys and it's like no y'all and it's like y'all's better.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's like that that encompasses every home.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is everybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's use that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I was speaking of our our upbringing down and down in the country.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: down in Franklin County.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I was talking about this this morning that like I That that that house that we grew up in there is still the longest I've lived anywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, isn't that weird is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we moved in two thousand one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So eighty eight to two thousand one.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's thirteen years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, I was then our parents have lived at the house we moved to ever since then.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I continued to live there from two thousand one to two thousand six.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Before I went to college and then you barely lived.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know it was like, yeah, this was like, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it felt like so many memories happened in those five years.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were like a very rich five years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then, you know, come on for like Christmas and stuff and summers still for sure, but like even if you add those up, they're not going to get to thirteen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, and then it was like what like a year in the dorms, a year at Windsor Hills, two years on Jane Elaine, and then I suppose I moved back in at to that house for like two more years, one and a half after that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, until I graduated.
[SPEAKER_01]: Until you graduated in, in, and then we lived in Salem for, I lived in Salem with you for three years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Until I bought my house with my first house with Beth, and that was until twenty nineteen when we moved to the house I'm at now, which is only four years, and I've been at that house since then, so that's only six years.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, it is like, it's a plurality, is what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: The largest chunk of the pie is still at that house.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just so weird to think about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it is very interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in fact, actually, while we were going down to the lake, one of the things that we were going to do was go do an outing because Brother-in-law Mike is like a big food person.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like a chef.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he had a former professor.
[SPEAKER_00]: when he went to culinary school, who opened a restaurant in Rocky Mount, where we grew up in Franklin County, and he set me the address, and I was, partly I was wanting to see how far it was from my car, Lake House, to see how feasible it was just gonna be.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when I saw all the address, I was like, I recognize that street name, and I was like, I think this is like a quarter mile from where we grew up.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you opened a restaurant in Rocky Mount, it has to be a quarter mile from where we grew up.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's exactly that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I punched it in, I punched it in exactly three tenths of a mile.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a rise.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's one street in that street was like, yeah, three tenths of a mile.
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember where angle hardware was?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right across the way from there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so where the daily grind was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The people's was.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, those places.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the places.
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember the place.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good times.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, you can walk past that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can get to the method of church.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, uh... It's the Boy Scouts War.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, this is yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Mariel is with Park.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mariel is with Park, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go play Rollins.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the other way.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was down the right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: The backdrop into each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: They did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember when we were down there playing Rollerhockey one day and you swipe down on Tyler's hockey stick and broke it in half?
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh man, good times.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good times.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like roller hockey had this weird moment in the nineties where it was determined to be like more of a sport because in small town like Virginia like proper small town.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would still describe where we live in Rowan Oak is pretty small town and this was like like tiny compared to Rowan Oak had a roller hockey court.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we could rollerblade to from our house.
[SPEAKER_01]: From our house.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is about three tenths a mile away.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just as everything was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a big town.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is, sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not true.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's plenty of people who live there.
[SPEAKER_01]: The downtown area is very small.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, I don't know where I was going with this other than now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just literally tangenting through memories.
[SPEAKER_01]: Roller hockey.
[SPEAKER_00]: Roller hockey.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It did seem determined to be a sport.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and it was a sport that I was like, it was like the only thing I ever did until finding rock climbing, where I was like, I was like in northern and like good at it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if like we had Luke had a friend over this past weekend, and like the she couldn't come over until two because she had ice skating practice.
[SPEAKER_01]: in the morning I was like I wonder if just like ice skating became way more feasible in the warm weather months and ice hockey is just so much more of a thing yeah just like like well but ice hockey so but ice hockey yeah it makes it makes a lot of sense makes a lot of sense or maybe we're wrong in roller hockey is a big deal just not here
[SPEAKER_00]: Also true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, everybody listening right now is like what do you mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking about roller hockey's amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: We play it every weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys are no introduction about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I play for the Calcose.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll throw it back there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, throw it back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got it out here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: So wait.
[SPEAKER_01]: So were you saying that did you did you drive by the old house then?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I was going to be in it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't shower.
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which means we didn't end up going to this restaurant.
[SPEAKER_01]: I see.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I would have a shower to go to the restaurant.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe we should go when we can do a drive by.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we should.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems really awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: place is very, very fun and whimsical.
[SPEAKER_00]: It actually doesn't seem like it belongs there at all, but I love that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so where was I now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so a week at the lake.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, it's so interesting because you were telling me like all of your meery out of like, into an outslash week about like, you're, you're like, four day trip down to Florida and you're like so many things to report back on and people keep asking me they're like, you know, how was your, how was your vacation?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, it was so good.
[SPEAKER_00]: end of sentence end of sentence like we just I mean like we had like good weather we woke up every morning we had a good breakfast we went swimming we came in we had lunch we went swimming some more we came in we had dinner we hung out and and did drinks and games and dancing and stuff at night like you know it was sort of like like rinse and repeat day after day right just like each day kind of like
[SPEAKER_00]: blended neatly into the others and you know it was extremely fun like I had such a great time but I'm like I keep trying to think like okay let me tell you the story about the thing we did and I'm like hmm what did we do that I thought we didn't do shower not even once
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, the other thing I should probably bring up about this is that I rented this home and it was like an A-frame style home, which I personally have a total fondness for.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: A-frame.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, very cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, big fan of an A-frame.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the house itself was super eclectic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there was this like set of stairs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you got the living room and there was like a set of stairs that would go up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And these things were like the stairs were like four inches long.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like this time it was almost a ladder.
[SPEAKER_00]: going up like a loft kind of area with a cheap mountain club.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: The place been hates apparently.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate that place.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so good to use by that still.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't shower there if they asked me to.
[SPEAKER_00]: They probably wouldn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a giant wooden gab in the woods.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but so yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So neat little staircase going up.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was like a bathroom with just like a toilet, you know, up there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then on the main levels, like you know, like living room, the kitchen.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there was a bathroom.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the bathroom on the main level.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this was the thing that really trip me up.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's two bedrooms on the main level.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the bathroom had a tub, but no shower.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is because of the A-frame walls.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like, there's plenty of room to put a bathroom there, but like the wall then like slants down in the corner.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you could climb into the bathtub and lay down.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was no vertical space above it for shower.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that meant that the only shower in the whole house was in the basement.
[SPEAKER_00]: I see.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that meant that like everybody was also competing for shower space.
[SPEAKER_00]: And because I was clearly not the chairman to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I ended up being very low on that pecking order.
[SPEAKER_00]: I see.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So everybody else just sort of went and shower.
[SPEAKER_00]: Got you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, let me touch on the Addison portion of the trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: Addison likes animals.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this was very cute, because one morning, a couple of people in our party were coming back from a morning stroll, and they discovered a box turtle in the driveway.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, Addison, do you want to go see a turtle?
[SPEAKER_00]: And she was like, yup.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we scampered right now and out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: We sat down in the middle of the driveway.
[SPEAKER_00]: We picked it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: We looked at it.
[SPEAKER_00]: She touched it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, she was like, stroke it and it's shell and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: She had all these questions about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was really cute.
[SPEAKER_00]: So touch the turtle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Touch the turtle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Check.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we had our fishing poles with us and we were just catching like the little fish like right there off the down like little blue gills and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah caught a bunch of those and Addy held like ten of them and she was like I mean she would have held the fish until they would have just like died of like I've seen exposure of air.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know Because she was like so we kept it out and like okay, I let's put it back in the water now when I'm holding him still.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm holding this fish
[SPEAKER_00]: We hold lots of capatillers.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a giant like millipede, which I will be straight with you was super scary looking.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: She loved it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: No issues whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Broklag.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were right in the lock, I guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw the wrong one with this game.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about that, Addison.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, something seems strange there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then one of the other big ones is that your kids, like we go out on the boat, and your kids are really good about jumping off the back of the boat and they'll have like, you know, climb back up the ladder and then jumping off the back of the boat again, like, rinse your feet, rinse your feet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like last summer I was like man like Addison.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's not like she never really wanted to do this and it didn't occur to me until this summer, but I was like last summer she was only two.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like I couldn't have really expected her to like be jumping off the back of the boat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: very small right and so like this summer it's been kind of like okay not down now and now we're three now now we'll see how it goes and sure enough she's still she's still kind of afraid but like she I think like the whole week she was like working up to like jumping off the side of the dog yeah but like most of the time she was like she would like stand up there and she's like alright I'm gonna jump one you're gonna catch me right yeah yeah she was like keep cutting herself off like the countdown we were the same thing over and over again
[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually, she jumped in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: She did the plunge.
[SPEAKER_00]: Amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was so proud of her.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: So ring ring ring ring the bell.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not really a phrase that you say.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ring ring ring the bell apparently we do now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Other things that that ended up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I didn't end up doing the truck project.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did I ever mention that?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you said you brought a grandpa Jack project.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, so I brought I my this this is like a weird thing as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had my truck and I've had it since twenty seventeen and I really like it And when I got it it had like all these like chrome features about it and I think that like when it was on the on the lot I was like, oh yeah chrome chrome school, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: But apparently like as time's gone on, it's like when you're like on all the forums and stuff like that people are like here's how you can decromify your truck
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, apparently like, you know, you're trying to like these people are trying to like get rid of all the chrome from that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Crumbs, crumbs, crumbs out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: This one is seventeen.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have like like the badges, you know, that's a like toned row on the side.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's the kind of truck that I have in their chrome.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I had ordered these like they're like black covers that like are literally the exact same shape, but you like place them over top of it and then like blacks out all the emblems on your truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is like a very small project like what and take more than, you know, just a few minutes to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you'd just like snap a mom kind of.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but like you need like really like like wash it, you know, you're like all the dirt off see like good at he's in and then you're supposed to use like a hair dryer to like really like heat up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it's not like it doesn't like clip on it's like a like a sticker kind of situation.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like a like a really really strong sticker like in the same way that like the emblems are not held on with screws.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're just stickers and how often has your emblem on your vehicle ever fallen off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Never.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, except for the jab.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that predated us that did predate us and I don't think that was a sticker sticker I there was like a little like clip on thing on the back I think to write yeah, yeah, you tried to replace it at one point time.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got the wrong size the wrong size was just the job just the job just the Japanese so anyway, I didn't I didn't have a time to do that so when I got home and did it yesterday instead, which was like when I would do your house, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but now that now the truck looks even one step cooler and I only have I have like two pieces of chrome left on the whole vehicle that's that need to be replaced So I'm gonna I gotta decromify my car.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know we're have to go out and look at it and figure out over this chrome and figure out like what modifications the world has come up with to make it not be chrome Hmm, I want me door handles.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, that is kind of a cool one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, door handles and then I'm gonna need wheels too
[SPEAKER_00]: You have chrome wheels, don't you?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did not think about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: A chrome, a black that wheels on your car look very.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, here's here's my, my personal, I actually just replaced the wheels and made the bronze and said, but my favorite kind of car is white vehicle black black wheels.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what that's what mine would end up being then I think that would be and then I think that Chevy makes it like the wheels that come black.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like that like red stripe on the inside.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's very cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I like I want I want like I want all yeah, that's basically now that you're saying it like this that's more or less what I'm aiming for is getting running all the silver parts and replacing with black parts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then also having like red like highlights.
[SPEAKER_00]: Accents.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Accents.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great accent for vehicles.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think really what it comes down to is I feel like some time at some point in time somebody compared this aesthetic of vehicle to like a storm trooper and pretty much ever since then I was like storm troopers have the best aesthetic.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are like the storm trooper design is awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I've read that often though.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they don't usually have red, but the way black.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're white and black.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, but red red, I mean, they have lasers.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have the red lasers.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have lasers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they don't have a laser.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little light bulb, but blanks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Laser envy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Okay, here's here's another here's another moment from my trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can still do a gainer Hey, yeah, we're the the frontwards backflip the frontwards backflip Yeah, so this is this is like like I was describing the inward dive earlier Which is like you you prepare to do what looks like a backwards-looking thing but you're doing a forward-doing thing and This is the other way around it looks like you're doing a forward-facing thing, but you end up doing a backwards-facing thing yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: So you run forward off the dock, jump into the air, and then in the air you tuck and roll backwards.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a very complicated thing to like wrap your mind around, or maybe if you never thought about it, just go try it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you'll just like nail it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it does do it, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I ever thought it for years.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like last summer, maybe there was like a day where I like really locked in on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I've got the caner down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we were staying on the dock and I think Mike was like, thank you, still a gainer.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, let's see.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, like, without thinking about it, I just ran and jumped.
[SPEAKER_00]: Boom, did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a huge, like, honestly, I'm just feeling pretty good about this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thirty-five now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sort of like, every year that I can still do a gainer, it's gonna be like, that's a win for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how you take it.
[SPEAKER_00]: As like a human on planet earth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel like there's a rough shot that ten years from now, I'll still be able to do a gainer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm an Forty-five year old.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a forty-five year old.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to call that like, meager chances.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, this is kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I think sometimes you're like, if you just, if you kept doing the same thing every day, then like when, when would you stop being able to do it?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of my favorite questions is, it's like the, it's that, because it's the best way to demonstrate the just noticeable difference.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I've always said, like if you were to take a car that you didn't really want, but it's like a car, like a perfectly functioning car.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's just say you've got like a, like a twenty,
[SPEAKER_00]: twelve Toyota Prius like a car.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like it's an efficient car.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably not going to like win any drag races nor is it probably going to like, you know, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that it's like the most modifiable thing in the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a good car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, so if somebody rolled it up in front of you, nice and clean, everything's been good.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's got like, you know, like, thirty-seven thousand miles on something.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, would you buy this car for one dollar?
[SPEAKER_00]: The answer, of course, would be yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, who wouldn't buy a fully functioning vehicle for one dollar?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even if your goal is just sell it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, it's like you would buy it for a dollar.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you would continue to say yes, probably all the way up until like,
[SPEAKER_00]: you know three thousand four hundred and forty four dollars but at three thousand four hundred and forty five it's like one dollar made the difference like it is it is officially too expensive right it wasn't too expensive one dollar ago but now it is but now it is right you know and and at some point that line just gets drawn right as you're right yeah if I did a gainer every single day it's like is there a world where I've just gets a good at it that I'd like seventy eight years old and it's like I'm gonna go bust out a gainer right because like
[SPEAKER_01]: right it's like you've been doing it every day your body knows how to do it right right or is it just sort of like or would it you know you just like decay slowly into the power is like one day I was like that's a lot harder or eventually just like pulled something or you know whatever
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't want it reminds me of is that that trend that I feel like was going around a little bit where it looked like it's like the like my spouse and I realize we never have seen each other run it full speed and and you know it's like it's such a true thing like you know as a full grown adult how often are you sprinting it's like unless you play some type of like
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, like, directly export.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, where there's like a specific reason to, it's like as adults, for the most part, we don't have reasons to run as fast as we are capable of running.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's kind of like, it can be this like very funny thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's also like, it's, it's a very fascinating like setup.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you think about preparing yourself for the future.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think in the recent episodes of the pop, I talked a little bit about like saving for retirement and stuff like that, like making decisions now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: that will like prepare you for them and then you and I have also talked about like exercise like working out and lifting weights and stuff like that like we both try to be fit people but neither of us is exactly like going to go win a body building competition or something like like but like a lot of like what we're doing is maintaining
[SPEAKER_00]: a kind of strength that hopefully will pay good dividends for our health when we reach a certain age, because it's like you kept your body strong during a period of time when sometimes it becomes less strong, because for the exact same reason as you never seeing your spouse sprint at full speed, you stop needing reason to do it sometimes, other than taking care of yourself.
[SPEAKER_00]: So to me it's interesting like with the gainer because like you know I would aspire to own like a like house one day and like it would be so fun if I was like sixty five and somehow some of these like abilities were just like still in me right yeah, you know, it's like ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It makes you wonder though, like, you know, if like on on that note, like if in a world where you had like no like job or like other responsibilities of like all you had to do each day, it was just like like
[SPEAKER_01]: work on your longevity so to speak.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, like how far could you push it?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like if you were just like, you know, that would be such an interesting thing, but it would be so hard to do, it would be like our goal with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're trying to make you
[SPEAKER_01]: the oldest person who ever lived.
[SPEAKER_01]: And our way of doing that is by having extreme dedication every day of your life to being healthy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it wouldn't be, it wouldn't have to be like, you know, extreme fitness.
[SPEAKER_01]: It would just be like, like, what is the best, really good maintenance you can do every day?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, lots of stretching and walking and healthy foods and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna see probably like some yoga stretching, Mediterranean diet, like those, those beats.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a very interesting question too, because like there are certain individuals who we as society can like zero win on and be like, you're uniquely capable of doing something that nobody else in the world can do.
[SPEAKER_00]: And a good example of it is gonna like the guy that like went out to run like the fastest marathon in the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's like they set up like a specific course and it's like everything about like the way that it's done all of the training all of like you're not dealing with like competitors you are dealing with like maybe people who can like run a pace
[SPEAKER_00]: for like eight miles instead of all twenty six.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then after the eight miles you just sub someone else in who can perfectly hold the pace at that point to like help keep you on pace to do the thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you can you can bring a whole lot of like technology and energy and commitment all in one place to like make sure that this one person could run a marathon and in breakneck speed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you're right it would be so interesting if like we just took like an individual and we were like your job is to see what the human body is capable of.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have created a team of scientists and nutritionists and like you know like trainers and it's like you don't have a job
[SPEAKER_00]: your, like, you are of a genetic makeup that is predetermined to not have associated preexisting, like, you know, predisposition to specific diseases.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, we're just going to take you as far into the future as we can.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And see, like, what they, what a perfectly maintained human being looks like at a hundred and ten years old.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, you know, all the people who started that experiment would never see the end of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, also true by by the very nature of it by the very day they would otherwise have to outlive that person and that would not be how it would go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Someone would actually like take over at some point and you'd have to like
[SPEAKER_01]: that like you'd have to have so much attention to it happening because you'd want to keep that person like probably in like the cleanest air as possible in like drinking like really clean water and probably not being exposed to like you know smoke or alcohol or anything like that like ever right you know but it's like then and then you know at some point I'm sure you'd get into a lot of like
[SPEAKER_01]: argument or whatever about like what it means to live a healthy life like is just like you know the idea of like living we're surviving or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just like it reminds me exactly if the wally friends like I don't want to survive the one to live.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's like the point of this person would simply be to survive more or less.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, but I think then you start asking like, would they be healthier if they're like having fun doing like things like that, you know, having social interactions, would that increase your longevity and stuff like that?
[SPEAKER_01]: To which I would say probably, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think this solution is like put this person in a padded, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: into a soft, completely safe environment where you feed them just the right amount of vitamins every day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you would need a fundamental balance, where you're right, where theoretically, depending on who this person is, it could be like, yeah, it's Tuesday, and so today we need to have your weekly, unbelievable experience, so you have firmware to get serious to her, and it's like, you're going to go see Taylor Swift from like, three feet away.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's sort of like, that is what they even know who Taylor Swift is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, that's what I'm saying is like, I think that you would be exposed enough to the world, because you would have to have excitement.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have excitement, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you'd want to like lead a mostly like stress free life.
[SPEAKER_00]: You need to lead a mostly stress free life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which would be like very interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you wouldn't be like exposed, like some sort of like public following or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't necessarily be a public following.
[SPEAKER_00]: It would almost hatchback a documentary, like that's being like, that's like taking place unbeknownst to most people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which would be crazy too, because then it would be like a hundred year plus long experiment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So much changes over the course of a hundred years.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then it's like the problem would also be like that the world they were born into would look so different a hundred years later.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like the people conducting the experiment would have to like adjust like accommodate like you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: a shifting political landscape and stuff like that, you know, for that entire time period.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it occurs to me that at some point in time, the hard part probably wouldn't be maintaining the nutrition and the coaching and the wellness aspects.
[SPEAKER_00]: It really would be the fulfillment thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like fulfillment is unique to everybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's your personalities fingerprint.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like not everybody's fulfilled
[SPEAKER_00]: the same ways.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so discovering like what mattered to this person and how to achieve it without them feeling like it was just being given to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's the other thing too.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, there's a huge amount of satisfaction associated with like overcoming the odds.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like achieving something that you thought maybe wasn't
[SPEAKER_00]: Holy possible.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think this is anyone's like hobby?
[SPEAKER_00]: Their like goal is to be the oldest person you've ever lived?
[SPEAKER_00]: It almost feels like the kind of thing where it can't be your objective because if it was it would be stressful like
[SPEAKER_00]: you know it's almost like like it almost makes you wonder whether or not like the person who is directly involved because that would that would be like another fascinating element this this saga is if the person who is the subject of this experiment doesn't know oh right right right right right right yes
[SPEAKER_01]: So you know most, you know most of the like, could you need like a Truman show situation where you have like an entire community of people such that like there are people for them interact with and like projects for them to work on that are like like worthy and will help you feel fulfilled and like everyone there knows the goal is to get this one person to live as long as possible and like they're all extremely helpful and accommodating and it's like like that that's that's what it's all working towards but the one person doesn't actually know
[SPEAKER_00]: the one person is actually not.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because it's very interesting too, because it's like, you know, with any job, for example, you may find yourself reaching a point where you're sort of like, do like you're mentally prepared for your job to to like involve a promotion or like more responsibility or, you know, like whatever, like you want to feel like the wrong is being achieved, like one after the other.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when that happens, the job is filling because you're sort of like, wow, all this hard work I put into it is paying off.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like it would, like then where this satisfaction comes from is feeling like you've become stagnated.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like that would be a really interesting question to examine and explore as well, is like how to make sure that this person is like becoming bored
[SPEAKER_00]: at the exact right moment that you have the promotion ready for them right you know to wear it's almost like okay it's like okay he needs to be bored for like sixty days he needs to doubt whether or not this career path is the right one and then we have to give them
[SPEAKER_00]: the wind.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they wouldn't even have careers, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like you wouldn't even have a career.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you wouldn't have a career.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a deep meaning of life question as it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you, and it's so difficult to know given our own, the paths, our own lives have taken.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know like if you are like trying to organize a life for someone that's like completely stressed free does that end up being like very unfulfilling or because like oh you know nothing to fulfill you don't have like a job or anything but it's like well maybe we only think jobs are fulfilling because that's the path like that's the world we were born into.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Could fulfillment be found in like completely untapped ways.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's like, then it's so interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because then you get into like a, you know, would this person like discover their own kind of religion?
[SPEAKER_01]: Would they be have introduced religion introduced to them?
[SPEAKER_00]: Or if they could be a big part of.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then that, that feels like, yeah, because like, would, yeah, could, like if you're designing that experiment and it's like, it feels like,
[SPEAKER_01]: you'd have to navigate like that kind of water to like are you trying to introduce like religion to this person or they're not even no religion exists you know yeah right because you're trying to like
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, now I have like an isolated kind of worldview, but like, like a, like, man, it feels like an intentionally ignorant existence.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know?
[SPEAKER_00]: The real danger in this as well is that the further into it you got, the greater the risk of the person discovering that they're being messed with.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, not even messed with because like the objective is all there, but it's like,
[SPEAKER_00]: There are, I mean, I think it goes to show that there are certain elements in life that can't just be simply like spoon-fed to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are certain things that like must come about in the organic way because you can't mean you factor them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because like when you see that person, you have like feelings for whatever and you have that like moment of like eyes locking from across the room or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you can't
[SPEAKER_00]: make that up.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't create that.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't be artificial.
[SPEAKER_00]: It has to be real.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because then it's like you could pick a series of candidates who could potentially be the right person.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then one, they know that they're involved in the process, which immediately would take away from them having the authentic experience.
[SPEAKER_00]: If the subject of the experiment ever discovered that they're significant other, if significant others are necessary for fulfillment.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they ever discovered that they were in on a pulley, that would be heartbreaking.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It can't be real.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, I mean, this is all become a very Truman Show, which by the way, do you know where the Truman Show was shot?
[SPEAKER_00]: in thirty eight oh way yes really wow had to be a big deal for some reason I doubt yeah okay I think we write this book and we call it spearment spearment and that's the name of the town is spearment why spearment because it sounds a experiment oh experiment yeah I got you I got you
[SPEAKER_00]: But like spearmate kind of has a cool like creepy feel to it to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it feels like a refreshing feel to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it does have a bit of a fresh feel, but I feel like that feels like part of the longevity.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like it's like this garden of Edeny kind of like flavor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can feel it can feel both inviting and refreshing, but it also kind of has a dark, you know, undertone, but the dark undertone is not really by anybody for any reason other than attempting to figure out what the human body is capable of.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But let's let someone's whole life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Someone's whole life, the objective of it is to make it as good as possible.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yet, they are the victim of the situation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is, that is the situation.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the experiment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to hate this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't hate this at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a pretty good one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're on to something here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't possibly top this as a conversational.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was, I was like, we just like, twenty-seven buster cells into something great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we got, so we got like our nice little, I don't even know what genre does this fall into, like black mirror kind of situation.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think dark comedy, I think it's a good comedy because it's like dark comedy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I think it's, it's got severe undertones, but it's not meant to be dark.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not meant to be aggressive even.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's well intended.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, it's this idea that a single person can be like,
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, on some level you probably, you ram right into the wall of free will.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, that's the situation.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, did they have free will?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, because like if it's engineered and then if they, you know, successfully lived to be like a hundred and forty or something and they're just like still a pretty healthy person, you know, it's like, well, congratulations.
[SPEAKER_01]: You, you did it, but, you know, at what cost?
[SPEAKER_00]: At what cost?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and for that, are they even, are all, are all, it does that person have a human experience.
[SPEAKER_01]: correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I mean, especially if like an entire town is dedicated to nothing more than seeing it through.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, there's a whole myriad of other problems as well, which not the least of which is the fact that like, if you're significant other, let's say, is not following the same regiment, which is not there's not something to say that they wouldn't because if they're living so closely with one another, they may just be benefiting from the same same diet, same behavior, same activities,
[SPEAKER_00]: Biosmosis, but also like, you know, what's the average life expectancy like AD?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, if you live to be a hundred and forty in your spouse died at AD, that's sixty years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: That by itself is a whole another lifetime.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's gotta be people trying to be the oldest person who ever lived.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's gotta be.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's like a criss-trigger plot line in Parks and Rec.
[SPEAKER_00]: short.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's a fictional character.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, one is a fictional character in two.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like the kind of person.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's exactly like I described with Addison sleep training where it's like as long as everything is existing within the system, it works really well.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you break free the system, all it takes is a grain of sand to make the whole thing start to
[SPEAKER_00]: to grind.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, because he lives such a very, very specific and regimented lifestyle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that can be hard to maintain.
[SPEAKER_01]: And absolutely can be hard to maintain, but that would be the job of the people on the town to do for this person.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maintain that routine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Experiment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keep it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keep up the experiment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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