[SPEAKER_02]: Did they end welcome to the ballboys AFL fantasy podcast?
[SPEAKER_02]: We are breaking down round sixteen.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're saying goodbye to the buy rounds and hello to best twenty two as we move into luxury traces and to close out the year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go!
[SPEAKER_00]: He comes on Monday.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good day and welcome again to the ballboys AFL Fantasy podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is definitely not the third time I've had to do this intro.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host Mitch Casey and you can find me on Twitter at ballboys fantasy and looking as good as you always does over there Luke Robinson made.
[SPEAKER_02]: How are you?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to think of a different thing to say this time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was screwed the first time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was bad this second time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just neutral.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm flat.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm flat because my fantasy team fucking sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: It.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I looked over it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, no, it's not good.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've confirmed my suspicion confirmed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Put it this way.
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole list of the chopping block this way is a roll call from the oxalms.
[SPEAKER_01]: Essentially, there's not one player on the chopping block that isn't featured at the oxalms.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we have had to record this three times with a bit of technical difficulties, but we push it on today.
[SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully the camera holds out this time around.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are back to best twenty two.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the best thing about best twenty two, after the bar rounds, you get to move all those rookies off your field, all the terrible players off your ground and put the good ones back on.
[SPEAKER_02]: The only issue with my team is that there's still terrible players on the field.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why are they still there?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's not all doom and gloom mate.
[SPEAKER_01]: You did move up during the buy rounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, yes, so on the buy rounds, we try and evaluate our performance, um, trying to cling onto the, the, the positives.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did move up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I moved up about two thousand spots from round twelve to round sixteen, uh, which was a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: under par, but I'll give it a pass.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to get down to twenty five hundred was my goal, but that seven hundred spots off that.
[SPEAKER_02]: What about yourself?
[SPEAKER_01]: You did all right as well?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I used to slightly different strategy this time around and try to actually go in the other way.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see we'll see point of difference there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we'll see how it works out in the long run, but I decided to go in the wrong direction throughout about twenty five hundred ranks leaving me out.
[SPEAKER_01]: in the desolate wasteland that is sick of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well hopefully, hopefully because you took that hit in the bar round, you're coming out with a bang and team that's just shockful of premiums, best twin and two players if you've sacrificed those points in the bar rounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's good for you there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully you'll come home in the wet sale.
[SPEAKER_02]: But let's talk about the round that was and we're gonna start by awarding the players who were the most thirsty during the round and those on the other side of the spectrum who were the most quenched.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna hump to the third time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we are gonna torch this guy for the third time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Isaac fucking rank him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Give him the blow torch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, he frustrates the shit of me because I was all up and about about him at the start of the season.
[SPEAKER_02]: Little don't know that this guy is a fucking camel to his core.
[SPEAKER_02]: He belongs in the Samson Desert.
[SPEAKER_02]: Simpson doesn't say I'm doesn't put all the deserts he lives in the sand because this man is not thirsty at all he can go days without water he had a great first quarter a great second quarter and I thought here we go here's why held on to this man
[SPEAKER_02]: He had sixty-plus at half-time.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had sixteen touches at half-time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kicked a goal in that time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, okay, we're on for a one twenty-plus here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Vindication for holding this man, Richmond second half.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be play time for Vizac Rankin.
[SPEAKER_02]: Four touches in a second half.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's quenched.
[SPEAKER_02]: Less than twenty points.
[SPEAKER_02]: You save that as well with a couple of tackles like this man is e-hates to the pill.
[SPEAKER_02]: When the goings easy, he kicks his feet up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just isn't interested in patting his stats.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not what we want to see, Luke.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were dropped marks.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were holding the balls against.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty insiped to be honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we need to talk about a man who would never, just know those types of camel tendencies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
[SPEAKER_01]: This man is the definition of absorbing yellow and porous.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't watch this game, but you did.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Nick Daycos, if there's an easy matchup, you can bet on this guy to make the most of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, in a round where there was a lot of terrible scoring.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was one man that we could rely on and trust to come in and put up the best score of the round.
[SPEAKER_02]: One thirty seven, I wanted to highlight a couple of instances that happened that just highlight exactly why this man is he's right up there in the votes every week for the sponge of the week.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had three tackles on the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: I reckon he had probably a legitimate one tackle on the game, but those two other tackles that he got.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was two instances that I saw where there was a game tackle at least two players, him and one of the player, him and sometimes two other players that got called whole in the ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: and he just had to have a hand on the body just arm around the shoulder and as soon as that hold in the ball was called he's demanding the ball he said you're at Ned Long go you fuck off I've got the free kick here side bottom and I've go away I've got the free kick and he he got that extra he made sure he got the tackle which if he didn't get that I don't think he would've got the four points then he gets the three points and the extra point for the free kick against so
[SPEAKER_02]: That kind of behavior is what we want to see.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was literally one tackle where I'm pretty sure it was steel side bottom, who was tackling the player.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Nick Dacos just had a hold of this guy's arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just literally around his wrist.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was enough for him to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, that was more like tackle.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna set the free kick.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the umpires just weren't, hey, you're gonna take off.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're fucking out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love these teammates do the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they didn't care.
[SPEAKER_01]: It could've been even bigger if he kick straight.
[SPEAKER_01]: It could've been a one-fifty.
[SPEAKER_01]: But one-thirty seven, I was happy to take that.
[SPEAKER_01]: with the V-C.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's review the round with bogs and flocks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the winner of the normal Smith medal.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're an embarrassment to what you do make.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're an embarrassment all the way back to Thursday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Best on ground now.
[SPEAKER_02]: The interesting thing here is our wars that we're giving here by school the same amount of points.
[SPEAKER_02]: So do you want to talk us through
[SPEAKER_02]: the vlog first?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the vlog and bog Conorosi and the iceberg you guys can pick which is which but Conorosi has been getting it done.
[SPEAKER_01]: I tell you who hasn't recently been getting done and that's the iceberg because he hasn't in the last couple of weeks had a role that we can rely on and for some fucking reason after we endorsed trading that guy out to just about anyone who'd listen.
[SPEAKER_01]: He then has more CBAs than both of the rockmen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was the highest CBA get it right and it goes on to get a one twenty.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this this is rough.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you can make a case that last week either reason he was a little lower on the CBAs was kind of rosy went back in there for a fleeting moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: And with rosy back at half back it was the iceberg show in the middle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, but this one's a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: And your boy Horny, Horny Boy, he, you know, barely played.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, only eleven percent CBA.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, those CBAs are gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, how did I not get here in the floor just quietly?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the sort of one himself, but I mean, he's just so far off the radar of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, and Connor Rosey, just the, the store wall that is Connor Rosey in our defense line, he's had an absolutely fantastic season career gear.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that, that moved to halfbacks, looking like a great one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sidney versus Bulldogs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Brody Grundy gets the best on ground for this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has been a great trading.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote in my review article this week that he's averaging like one twenty plus in his last seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: And continues on a decent run of matchups from here until the rest of the season.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about some runs coming up, but his doesn't get much harder.
[SPEAKER_02]: um so yeah big one thirty seven um was the only one they got really close well got the same score is um day cost so if you had him and day cost you look like you had a pretty nice week the vlog to me very niche areas here but James Harms gets the vlog in this one tell me more um there was the third quarter so sand arcee my big trading last week
[SPEAKER_02]: He had three goals in this game.
[SPEAKER_02]: You think you have a good score.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he had, I think, again, similar story to Isaac Rankin and excellent first half was everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely killing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just pulling up his stats here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here's fifty six on the game, but in this first quarter here, twenty five, second quarter, twenty one.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's on forty six at half time.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know how many points he scored in the third quarter?
[SPEAKER_02]: Three.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's that got to do with James?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to know how many touches he had in that quarter?
[SPEAKER_02]: Zero.
[SPEAKER_02]: He actually scored all of his points.
[SPEAKER_02]: for free's four and hitouts.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the free four that he had was right in front of goal.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'd gone to take a mark and someone's chop his arm free kick right in front.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's had no disposal to this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is at the end of the third quarter.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is your big key forward right in front of the goal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just about to kick his fourth goal for the game and James Harms goes, yoink, I'm gonna take that run through kicks of goal and we get no points for Sam Darcy.
[SPEAKER_02]: James Harms,
[SPEAKER_02]: Not only is that bad for your teammates, but it's bad for our fans.
[SPEAKER_02]: Teams make what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: That is floor behaviour.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was long-winded.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think we were ever going to get to Jam's arms here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take to the son's a moment game and best on ground here.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a big Sam Flandard.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that man back?
[SPEAKER_02]: I, in my words, a little bit here because I was recommending that no one go anywhere near Sam Flanders and look, it's not a score that makes you go, wow, wish I had Sam Flanders, but he's fucking cheap man.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in the six hundred thousands.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's down like four hundred thousand on the year.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it is something that maybe we do need to start to pay attention to.
[SPEAKER_02]: The role exactly the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had one CBAs, but again, these heat maps, the last two weeks, the heat maps,
[SPEAKER_02]: It looked a lot better.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it looks like he's might be given that license to get up the ground a little bit more and do as he pleases.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like you said, super cheap and maybe a perfect candidate for a twenty-third premium.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: A little shout out to Noah Anderson as well, who was absolutely stinky it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe he was getting a bit of a tag, but scored forty four points in the last quarter.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he only scored ninety three on the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it tells you how he was going before then, but did save you score and I was very, very thankful for that because I was not good.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to drive by Clayton Oliver?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it just sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought Gold Coast Suns is his matchup for midfielders, but I keep forgetting that that's the old Clayton Oliver.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the new shitty version of Clayton Oliver, and maybe that's on me for just hoping for more, but no, still sucks, so still is the vlog.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's head on over at the Hulk's North Melbourne game, which was a chance for North Melbourne to, I think, consolidate after a great win against Kalden.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they did not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing of the sorts today.
[SPEAKER_01]: But in a silver lining, Colby McCurture is looking awesome across Heartback.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was the only route a ton up in this game.
[SPEAKER_01]: even with a couple of late points there, but thirty four touches get it done.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's threatening to have a massive game, but he keeps, look, thirty four touches here.
[SPEAKER_02]: One tackle four marks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, where are the, where are the big marks?
[SPEAKER_02]: Where are the marks for tackle numbers?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's what I'm waiting for that to happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he, that is price.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't really need to if he keeps it up in hundreds.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been a great pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: I brought him in this week and was very, very happy to do so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, he got as many points in as I possibly could.
[SPEAKER_02]: So my trade-ins were fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: He scored two points less than Jordan Dawson.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was the guy who I really want.
[SPEAKER_02]: So for someone who was basically two or three hundred K cheaper, you'll definitely take that.
[SPEAKER_02]: The vlog, his teammate, however, this is disgusting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Harry Sheezle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sixty-five.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you see how many CBAs you got to attend by?
[SPEAKER_01]: Was zero.
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: Not quite zero, but why the fuck?
[SPEAKER_01]: In a game where you get done by a hundred points.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you not playing your best player around the ball?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, why is Luke Parker in there for twenty-eight CBAs?
[SPEAKER_01]: This is not North Melbourne winning by a hundred points.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is them getting pants and playing their best player away from clearly where the pill was.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't watch this game, but yeah, to me that is very, very frustrating and I don't know why you wouldn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was twenty times in that game where North Melbourne getting as smacked around as they were, went, let's put Luke Parker in the center and keep Sheezleford.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do that again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really guys, are we really doing that?
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw the best of that move last week when they're on top, but they're not gonna be on top every week.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'd have to pull that lever.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the concern.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I still have confidence that they're gonna go away from that game and go, that obviously didn't fucking work.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they'll be better than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this, he, this is obviously his clearly lower game.
[SPEAKER_02]: His only other game below ninety was an eighty one against Colleenwood.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it is one we're gonna have to forgive, but
[SPEAKER_02]: One or two more of those, and we're going to have to look straight him out, but, yeah, guess I'll float for this one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Calling with a West Coast day course in McCarthy can have the bulk McCarthy backed up.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's big first, a day boost score with another one, so his cash is just going to be cartwheeling.
[SPEAKER_01]: So here's a question for you, just on the McCarthy thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe this should be, say, a full strategy chat, but is he, is he someone we can have on field?
[SPEAKER_01]: legit he's he's just gone back to back nine he's so the question the question more is a hundred one and ninety five do I have to have it won't feel the answer maybe yes I think if you have to have one field it's not disaster yeah it's not the worst thing in the world um we've obviously seen previously like rookies are rookies I know he's a mid-season recruit so it may be it's a little bit different but yeah if if worse comes to us this week and you can execute some trades and it means that you've still got a month field
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's the worst thing in the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: What I'd rather have, what I'd rather have McCarthy or like Clayton Oliver on field.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and there's a host of guys who get asked that question that we'll talk about on in the chopping block.
[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing that we'll probably talk about in strategy chat as well is there's actually a lot of these cash generators that have just recently come to us and so I haven't
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, completely reach their upper limit.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when when do we call those?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's another question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are getting ahead of ourselves.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, in that same game, uh, calling one of West Coast, the vlog is West Coast South and the South West.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a bit harsh.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I just wanted to say that thing that I'm right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because a few people may have gone to the West Pick.
[SPEAKER_01]: But as I just said, he went south and south west.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was always a big cage on this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: He yourself dealt tactically.
[SPEAKER_02]: He kicked a goal in this one as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, four touches obviously is not great.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I don't think he's
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's gonna be our North Star.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not the vlog just to be clear.
[SPEAKER_01]: We just wanted to do all that gear.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Richmond and Adelaide, the bog for me here, has to be Tom Lynch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Yuck is explained.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because this game was so fucking nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was so fucking boring.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the worst.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was the only thing fun to watch in this game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not only were Richmond so bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: But even the way Adelaide put us away was fucking bored.
[SPEAKER_01]: So watching Tom Lynch punch guys in the back of the head.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I tuned into a little bit of Sunday fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't happy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't happy.
[SPEAKER_01]: What was he you tweeted about this?
[SPEAKER_02]: He had negative fifteen at half time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Had not touched the ball and had given away five free kicks.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was getting railed by butts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had butts behind him and Jordan was there too.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he just was not happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Five free kicks with no other stats.
[SPEAKER_02]: If this was a possible game, he would not come back on to the field of a field.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'd just be sitting there.
[SPEAKER_00]: They'd already used their software.
[SPEAKER_02]: They'd already used their software.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I imagine if they had the software, you might just feel Tom, don't just stay there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't come back out, but he came back out, kicked a goal, ended with three.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he's on for a holiday too unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean she the vlog in this game.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've thrown I said ranking in there, but Jordan Dawson too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jordan.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Dundab.
[SPEAKER_01]: He beat my heart.
[SPEAKER_02]: He did.
[SPEAKER_01]: He did.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why I pretend to have high standards on this podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: My team fucking sucks, but Jordan Dawson like it's the reaching matchup.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We wanted to go big and anyone who didn't have the VC on day course and went into Dawson.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not impressed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not the greatest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, just a little drive by my boy Sam Barry here, eighty nine points with the goal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Barry's still getting around.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, eighty nine would have been nice a few weeks ago and several of those six easy gave me.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, extension.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Furio, vers St.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kilda, best on ground.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Luke Jackson here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got Luke Jackson and this is, this is more for a body of work than what he did on the weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the fact that this guy is now going into the midfield when Darcy goes into the rock is just another string to his bow and is coinciding with good scoring.
[SPEAKER_01]: You look at his start line here, he only had
[SPEAKER_01]: mediocre hit-out numbers, but he actually had eight tackles I believe.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you have a look at it, I think, from Memphis or in the halls, there were only twenty four CBAs in the game, and Darcy and Jackson combined, had thirty two CBAs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they had the same amount.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or basically equal to each other, sixteen and fifteen.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, thirty one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm no mathematician, but I think that that means one of them was playing midfield at some point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I don't think all of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not, yeah, he's not going in for those, uh, so... Grandples.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well done, Luke Jackson.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now the vlog for me, and this is, this is the last straw.
[SPEAKER_02]: Caleb's a wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's done.
[SPEAKER_02]: His time at Mitchment is over.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a nice little run there when he was beating up on some easy teams.
[SPEAKER_02]: Teams got reminded the fact that, hey, this guy can play football.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so the sixty-two means that in his last two, where he had a hundred and thirty-seven against Estinine, last two weeks is averaging less than a hundred.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did he get, did I say that it wasn't even win-taker?
[SPEAKER_02]: It was talking about I actually didn't watch this game if he didn't get tagged and if you watched this game and kill them that he did not get tagged.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll throw up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to the Twitter sphere and saw talk of Hugo Garcia, but I don't know if I believe it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So tell us in the comments what the fuck happened to Caleb's fault.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was horrible.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was absolutely horrible.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think his first quarter was also decent.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say he had like twenty-five in the first quarter.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, okay, here we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get through this game at least with a cheeky time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, twenty-five in the first then twelve, eight, seventeen.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is unbelievably bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, you're out, strong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Should we talk some strategy about this talk strategy because it's a different phase of the year now we have gone through the first few phases where we've had fixed up trades we've had upgrade season we've had the bar rounds coming up we are now moving into I don't know if we're exactly there yet but we some teams will be some teams will not be rental luxury trades which is my favorite part of year
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, your intention here is to play the Uno Reverse because typically you've been going well up into this point of the season and then you've shit the bed.
[SPEAKER_02]: The best way to not fuck up luxury trades.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have a shit team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Never get there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just keep having done staff grade.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a wise, wise move from you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I reckon.
[SPEAKER_02]: An all seriousness for those people who are actually doing well.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're trying to help them.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is the best way to spend our trades in the back half of this season?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a bit of debate I think about.
[SPEAKER_02]: getting the best twenty-two as in getting all the players that you think are going to be the best players from here until the end of the season versus the strategy that popped up last year, which is running with maybe twenty-three or twenty-four premiums and maybe at the sacrifice of maybe not getting the best of the best but having those last couple of spots being like you know revolving door of players that could potentially get it done on any given week where do you sit at the moment
[SPEAKER_02]: And does it differ depending on team to team?
[SPEAKER_01]: It definitely does to that last point.
[SPEAKER_01]: It definitely does because my team is fucking obnoxious.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I wouldn't even be entertaining this strategy.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I like the idea of going for a twenty-third, even twenty-fourth premium for two key reasons.
[SPEAKER_01]: First key reason, and I think this is the reason that brings you unstuck, is that it just gives you a sense of purpose.
[SPEAKER_01]: In terms of you know exactly every week when you come in that you're trying to improve your team and even if it's your bench trying to improve your team.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it will prevent maybe what you've experienced in the past, which is in decision around who goes out, getting scared of tag or no tag or whether conditions or whatever the case is.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the second good point and I think, you know, Philosophical, but yeah, it's a good point in terms of this is the, is very realistic at this time of the year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe in another couple weeks for some teams, but soon we're going to be trading out and people experience that this past week with Burkman to bottles, again, apologies for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you could very easily trade out more points than you're trading in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's the second reason that I want to quickly touch on it is the fact that we spend all this time trying to predict, you know, good matchups versus bad matchups versus tags versus new roles versus all this kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think when it goes well, it is obviously highlighted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say S and N V Richmond a couple of weeks back, Nick Martin and Zach Merritt both effectively go on fifty.
[SPEAKER_01]: So everyone looks at that and goes, you target matchups, you target matchups, but I reckon there's just as much evidence to say, guys, come into a good matchup and get a mediocre, if not,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, worse than average score.
[SPEAKER_01]: So trying to put that into a luxury trade context are you not better having twenty-third and four so that you've actually got the ability to loop some guys and maybe save points there than you are just speculating on whether a guy has a good matchup or doesn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that what I'm going to try and preach this season is I want to go through and basically look at who are because we all talk about the top six, the top eight, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: but it doesn't work in a way where there's like this nice little cut off where, okay, you get to eight players and that here's the delineation of that's exactly the nice little neat bow on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is like the difference between number one and number two could be like five points.
[SPEAKER_02]: The difference between number two and number six might be five points.
[SPEAKER_02]: The difference between number six and number twenty three might be five points.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's like this kind of
[SPEAKER_02]: cascading an average that as you kind of move down the list.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think it is very important to have like those Uber premiums.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those guys that you kind of think regardless of the matchup, they're going to be putting up a score that you can pretty confidently say, I'm going to be happy with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that that will differ from line to line.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if we go through the defense, midfield, rocks and forwards,
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's identify these players as the guys that we absolutely want to have before we start entertaining the twenty-third.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this might be different.
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't workshop this beforehand, but into defense, which of the players and let's count Nick Martin as a forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we won't include him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But in the defense, is there
[SPEAKER_02]: Which players are you wanting to say?
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to have this guy before I start to entertain a twenty-third-perium airfight.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I don't have this guy, then I'm going to try and get him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then I'm going to get that twenty-third guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think with the defenders, I think it's very likely that we pick almost five, if not six of these guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: This I don't think will be the line where we tend to do it on, but I'm looking at, we've filled Zorco, Wang, I'm looking at Connor Rosie, so I've got four already that I'm super confident in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so Whitfield's in that list obviously he's calm down in price yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think price has anything to do with this in particular.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's obviously had an injured score even even if he were to not play this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's still put him in the list for you know for when he is playing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's four I'm overconfident and talks me about names like now Harry Sheez or a lucky Ash.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think I would include those guys in the list.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're rounding it out, but you could have, you could have a different combo of those guys that not feel like, okay, if I've got max homes, but I don't have Sinclair.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not like, I've got to get max homes to Sinclair.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to mean like, say even if I think Sinclair's gonna out average homes, the difference is gonna be marginal, I believe.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's not where I'm spending my trades.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if I had,
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, say I had like a mills sitting there and I didn't have, um, Wang.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would, I would want to make that trade and then I'd also like to.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say that what people are of a surgery to trade.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could, you could help yourself.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I think I'm actually prepared to add a fifth name to the list and this one you might disagree with, but I think I'm going to add Loki ash to the list.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, he me out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Loki ash, I think, has been the victim of not having just this enormous ceiling that some of the other guys have.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we kind of discounted him.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this guy has only gone sub one hundred one two three four times this year four times and you know when one of those times was it was the most important time round one because that was when we had to make the choice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that there's no big big ceiling scores there, but this guy's averaging one or four on the season and with only three under a ton, I'm going to actually add him as the fifth name.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so lucky we feel just as I was checking as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you take out that injured game, he is averaging a hundred and eight.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I would definitely have him in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, yeah, Ash is an interesting one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the only question on Sheezle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me add this as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: The only question on Sheezle is what we saw on the weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is enough to me to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just gonna leave it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just pocket.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he could be if we look back in retrospective in a season, he could be in that group.
[SPEAKER_02]: He still is averaging a hundred and five on the year, which is definitely I think up there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and let me know if you disagree, but I don't think the defensive line is necessarily where we're looking to have
[SPEAKER_01]: where we're going to get the best bang for our butt.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're going to have a pretty chock-a-full backline, I think there.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if we go to the midfield, the names here are quite tough.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think talk to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Dawson, to me, Lily.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, brace sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he there?
[SPEAKER_02]: As a guy, you've got to have before you start looking at twenty-three premiums.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I think he is, if you put him in perspective compared to, let's say, lucky archharrish easily is averaging two to three points more than those guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if those guys were sort of maybe guys, then I think that probably makes brace sure a yes guy, even though it's not as convincing as what we've seen previously.
[SPEAKER_01]: So who have you said Dawson, did you say Daikos?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say Daikos.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's do a Daikos in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: You start, I mean, Marcus Bontapelli's a name that you'd think we'd be talking about.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: This is insane, and this is what I mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: A name that I'm actually willing to put in there, especially if as an owner willing to persist with Zack Merritt out of the midfield, is Jai Kaldwell.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, he's the third highest averaging.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we just kind of crazy because we missed the chunk of the year, came back and he's had a fifty seven and seventy two and you're still averaging hundred and six.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we mentioned the start and this was a few weeks back when you could have potentially traded members that I think in games where he goes greater than seventy percent target and was a greater than fifty percent CBS.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The average is obscene.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a hundred and ten.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm actually going to throw him in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's four names from mine.
[SPEAKER_01]: that are guys that I look at and go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are guys before you start fucking around with with twenty three minutes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it stops there as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't think Tom Green or Zack Buddhas or Dunkley or any of these other guys merit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you you need to get these guys like there's there's an arrange of different players.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think those four guys are still the guys you're going to want to have after that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like
[SPEAKER_02]: Merit and butters could average the same the rest of the season.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dunkley and Bont could average the same for us the season.
[SPEAKER_02]: You sort of maybe that's when the twenty-third premium might be more advantageous to have you identify tag potential or there's a hard match up you do a little shuffle around that position.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're not obviously saying that you have those kind of four guys that we mentioned and then you have genuine dads there.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need to have a combination of these guys but week to week where
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of saying that maybe it doesn't matter, so much who they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you could get a bit of loop afiasco going and yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Find some good scores.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_02]: The rocks I think is actually a very interesting talking point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because mass score is averaging one hundred and fifteen on the season.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of us might have traded them out around.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a fifteen that he had his boy.
[SPEAKER_02]: The next ice averaging is Tim English, but then Brody Grunny is coming with a bullet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tristan Sherry has been underwhelming, a hundred and three average.
[SPEAKER_02]: Darcy Cameron's there at a hundred and four.
[SPEAKER_02]: Raw Marshall has had his ups and downs, but he's since he's come back of his buy.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going very, very well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this, what's that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Six Rockman.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're not even talking about Luke Jackson.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's also a rock, but obviously he's going to be in our forward line.
[SPEAKER_02]: So six Rockman, who are
[SPEAKER_02]: the two rocks that we want and how many trays are we going to spend on this position as we go through the end of the year because it's it's hard to pick and I think it has been in previous years.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty fucked up to say that I think it could be Max Gordon, Brody Grundy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Grundy's run to the end of the season just gets better coming off a one twenty six average in his last seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's won one twenty plus in five of his last seven games and
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we know that some of the rucks can certainly score in line with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you've had Tristan Sherry over the last two weeks versus a Brody Grande, you've already given up almost, is it close to seventy points, or am I talking out of my ass here?
[SPEAKER_02]: Did I have to do the math?
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it'd be close to some of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing that I might also mention here, and you can, again, agree or disagree is of all the lines.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually think the rocks is the line where we can with the most certainty predicts good and bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's I've always felt that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a one correct and there's not a tag risk.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that you said before, how many trades can we use in this space?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe it's more than we might think.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's definitely a place where, yeah, I would definitely take into account that scale of hardness or tail-linicating toughness, whatever it is you want to call it.
[SPEAKER_02]: One player that I, I feel quite strongly about being a top two rockman for the rest of the year, I feel quite strongly that Ron Marshall is going to be
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he, uh, if I'm going to make a ball prediction here, I think he's going to be in a one averaging player from now the rest of the season.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he's done it for years.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's been talks about him being not right.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's last three games.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's gone, eighty seven percent, eighty seven percent, eighty seven percent talk.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's come off his buy.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not dropped below a hundred and five.
[SPEAKER_02]: The one I five was against calling would actually are a tough match up for Ruckman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he's gone up against the dual Rucksett up for, uh, freer and done his one, nineteen.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's done big numbers against tough matchups in the past.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why did you tell me to trade him to Sherry?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, all of Sherry was going to be the other guy as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're going to get an extra game, but Sherry has done three, saw hundreds in a row.
[SPEAKER_02]: And not the hardest matchups.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Carlton was a tougher one.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I was expecting more against Hawthorne.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't check the stoppage stats for this game, but we did obviously flagged that you test as a big ground.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a lot of stoppageers, but I haven't actually checked that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did get obviously pelted as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm guessing in a game where they get done by a hundred points.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be a highly contested game, which might have influenced.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here at AD two rock contest, which is it is on the lower side.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, not only was it, not only seven for the game, it's probably bang on average.
[SPEAKER_01]: So no excuses, but yeah, I'm put it this way.
[SPEAKER_01]: At the moment, looking at English and Sherry, English with the tougher run to come, I'm not.
[SPEAKER_01]: loving the look of my rock combination compared to what I think some people will be looking at.
[SPEAKER_02]: Agreed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think as weird as it sounds, I almost think Grandia Marshall might be the combo if I had those two, which would be interesting combo to have.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's to me, at least in the short term, the combo I like the most at the moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the forward line, I think we've got some layout picks here in terms of must-haves.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bailey Smith, absolute must-have.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kennedy, absolute must-have, in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nick Martin, I think, is also a must-have.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it time that we put loot Jackson in that conversation?
[SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion, there's two parts to why I say yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: The first part is, of course, the scoring.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the second part to me is what Frio have been doing as a team.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're, I can't always talk about this, but if your player's doing really well and the team's doing poorly, well, you might just be waiting for something to change.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you play his tune really well, and the team's killing it, you know, and like people are going nuts, you know, he's in, he's in preview packages and highlight packages everywhere, playing that crazy role, looking like a, you know, one, nine, five centimeter midfielder, or however, the fuck totally is.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not changing for me in three other dreams, as well as they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll say yes to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's, he was that five.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Kennedy, Martin, Jackson, Bailey Smith,
[SPEAKER_02]: That's four.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's four.
[SPEAKER_02]: The next highest averaging player is McCray, and then Christian Patrocco.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that a nice neat six?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it almost is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it is a neat six, but would you still extend to maybe that's a line where we want a twenty-third premium, or are you now leaning more towards the midfield based on that discussion?
[SPEAKER_02]: It kind of feels like the midfield has the most volatility between ceiling and floor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yes, there's low scores in the forward line, but
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, I don't think you've got quite the ceiling scores, especially when you're playing around.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're doing a loop situation where you've got ranking and Caleb Daniel on your F-six, F-seven, I don't feel like either one's gonna give you a massive score.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's irrelevant.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're both gonna maybe give you an okay score and also a dud every now and again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, maybe it's good to avoid the dud score.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the upside of the big ceiling is maybe not there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe with the exception of maybe a Sam Darcy who in certain matchups could could go nuts.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he has a good matchup this round, but then afterwards it gets a bit tougher.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is a good point.
[SPEAKER_02]: The midfield to me seems like the widest open position in terms of that back half of the top eight defense and forward line seemed like a pretty tight net group and then the rucks obviously we talked about it's a bit of a fixture proposal.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, just a bit of food for thought, but I think there's a few targets there that you want to get those top guys first.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now for me, the most amount of work I need to do is probably in my Ford line because I don't have Nick Martin Kennedy or Jackson.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's three targets and I also don't know Jack McCray.
[SPEAKER_02]: So based on what I just said, I'm missing four of the top six.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: So don't worry, man, it's looking bleak at the oxalons too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to uh, or Jesus?
[SPEAKER_01]: We're very, very slouch today.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably not going to be out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[SPEAKER_01]: You wanna chop, mate?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's chop.
[SPEAKER_01]: That'll make you excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love chopping players off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna give out some free castrations.
[SPEAKER_01]: Get chopping, Mitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, chopping.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got some players that we want to get off rookies.
[SPEAKER_02]: We also want to trade them out.
[SPEAKER_02]: rookies need to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we did highlight the maybe exception before.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tomacal here's average in ninety eight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's two games.
[SPEAKER_02]: But...
[SPEAKER_02]: Two games where it's not really been the easiest matchup for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Carlton for defenders is pretty tough.
[SPEAKER_02]: Calling wood is just tough all around.
[SPEAKER_02]: He seems like he knows how to find the foot he gets kick-ins.
[SPEAKER_02]: Could we treat him a little bit?
[SPEAKER_02]: Definitely don't think you're trading him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm definitely my plan to this week is I'm going to putting the emergency on him.
[SPEAKER_02]: He does play on the Friday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's two Friday night games this week, just as a reminder.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he does play on the Friday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: You need to have at least an emergency on him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he scores another ninety-plus score.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is absolutely worth putting on your ground and maybe doing something else with another spot.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, instead of upgrading your final defender or your final midfielder to one of those top guys, maybe you can do something maybe in the forward line or something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, he's the exception, but every other rookie, I think, needs to be off your field.
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely off the field.
[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to me just a little bit, a selfish thing here, but a little bit about some of these rookies that have come into our teams recently and who haven't potentially made as much cash.
[SPEAKER_01]: as they could have, would you be looking to, I'll just give you an example.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say Zac Johnson, for example.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he obviously followed his good score with a poor score, but he's still got a break even of eight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typically, that would be something that we'd be definitely waiting on.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got cash to make over the coming weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: So would you tend to, even if you could upgrade him to someone half decent, would you instead look to upgrade?
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say someone like an Adam Chero, who's just coming off a stinker and now has a reasonably high break even.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you looking to move a chair up before you move a Johnson and target it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I think in most cases I would Unless there's no way for him to go into your bench and he has to be on field
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I've much more covered as in charred scoring better.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I can't like replace him with a McCarthy on field and he's stuck there, then I'd probably still just look to trade him out and I don't think I'd want to wear a thirty on my field in best twenty two, which is capable of putting up.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, but I think we still have eight rounds left until the end of the season.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not eight rookies on your bench that you can call to make an upgrade.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we need the guys that are in our side now to still keep generating cash so they can faten up and do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: When we start to get closer, it's sort of like three, four rounds to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: then then we can go whatever it doesn't matter but right now we need these guys to fatten up to still make the most of their cash I believe and I think yeah players like Litty players like Chamey players like Rauston like your boy Johnson there these kind of guys can can sit there a little bit longer assuming they're on your bench is probably the the main thing but I still want to get all rookies off field
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been self-selfish putting together the chopping block lists.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jason Hawthor, Francis.
[SPEAKER_01]: To me, there's almost no point in trading him now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the kind of quote coming out of Port Adelaide was, yeah, it was out tomorrow, if he was obviously injured, we all knew that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was more preventative and we've got a nine day break going into our next game.
[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully he's rested up and he can see some more but good time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So is trading him now just
[SPEAKER_01]: genuinely just catching in a loss and risking that he comes back into the midfield next week.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does feel a little that way and just the fact that he's lost so much cash.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's going to take three hundred k to get him to lose Jackson.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to cost nearly four hundred thousand to get him to Nick Martin.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it is a lot of money.
[SPEAKER_02]: So
[SPEAKER_02]: It's somewhere where you go, okay, is there a trade I can do elsewhere?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's probably better than that, that cost less than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like to get that foreigner, okay, you're going to have to color a great rookie or a mid-processed down and it's, well, you're going to have to do it over two weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: You might be better off just.
[SPEAKER_02]: crossing your fingers that he comes good and maybe looking elsewhere because he might come back out and score an eye and compared to the F-six that we said was maybe Christian Petraca, like he could outscore Petraca this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's definitely doable.
[SPEAKER_02]: The issue is when you've got those other guys there, but it might be easy to get to them from a child warner, for example, who here in horn frances, any given week, who knows, but there's a hundred and fifty K difference between the two.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anyone else in the world still owns Matt Roberts, but am I right in saying he's got a guy?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, he was I was feeling for you because he has a zero point at half time.
[SPEAKER_02]: He put up a dirty score on the weekend.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, just to be clear, I wasn't happy about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but he was forced.
[SPEAKER_02]: Forty-five.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's disgusting.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's quite far as worse, a game of the season.
[SPEAKER_02]: His break here was now a hundred and twenty.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Frio, I want to say Frio, I'm not the easiest match up for defenders as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So where is Sydney?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so they're actually a red on the scale of hardest.
[SPEAKER_02]: So does have something killed afterwards, but no, I think he's someone that was, and because that defense is so good, you know, that the bar is so high for the defense, he has to go before he bleeds more cash.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have a look at a couple more names on that list, mate, and let me know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me know who you want to talk about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so Adam Chero, he can go.
[SPEAKER_02]: He, he's sort of punched his ticket last week.
[SPEAKER_02]: I break even.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say it's really high.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can do a lot with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can do the only thing I want to ask you about in regards to someone like Chero, someone like the long, someone like Oliver, is we just talked about
[SPEAKER_01]: those kind of top four midfielders are Dawson called well, brace sure and who's the other name that we threw in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it like, do I get the most bang for my bike by trading Adam Chero to Bontempelli or Adam Chero to Josh Dunclee?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or, I know that the cash is now going to factor in with Adam Chero having a really high break even, but like, am I actually getting many points with that trade?
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if there's a world where you can do both?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, could you trade an Adam Chero to Bont make fifty five k?
[SPEAKER_02]: And then do a trade elsewhere where you're maybe doing a, I don't know whether it's a chart Warner to a McCray or something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're just getting two better players with better roles in, you know, one week potentially, especially if you still have rookies that are still fattening up, like give them time to do that a bit more.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's definitely something you could do because we've got unique situations where we've got worse players that have price high and better players that are price lower.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we think if Bond keeps fucking sucking like you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let me have a look here.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you think, and this is a different line that we're operating in, but if you think that Sam Flanders now has a better role and more cash to make than Callum Mills,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like there's a way that you could pocket more than a hundred k the thing the thing is you're doing is it's it's bringing in risk it's bringing in risk and potentially just stopping out one problem for another problem and then you're giving yourself less time to fix that problem with like I said eight weeks to let go for the rest of the season so
[SPEAKER_02]: We ideally want to eliminate problems, and it just feels like bringing someone like a Barnes and Pellie is not a problem versus flanders coming in is potentially a problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, there's going to be maybe some tag games and some poor scores, but you know that he is capable of giving you one twenty any given weekend, whereas we don't know that with flanders, like right now, we're with cheer and for ninies.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which is, which is not ideal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so those players are probably the trickiest.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would think those midfielders especially, so yeah, long, um, Chera Oliver.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because like me Oliver, he, his last several games, it's so hard to pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Forty one, eighty two, one, thirty, fifty nine, one, o nine, ninety seven, seventy six, like what?
[SPEAKER_02]: What do we do with that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like obviously he's averaging nony and I think he's just probably gonna keep doing that, but it's just the range at which it happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: This would be be clear.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, these guys are all guys who want to move.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a matter of we are getting shorter and shorter as fuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it's like.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's the order of events.
[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to me about Isaac Rankin and Chad Warner in the Ford line.
[SPEAKER_01]: So how much we kind of settled on a neat, top six forwards that we both felt pretty confident with is that more of a priority to turn Rankin into a Jackson to turn Warner into a, you know, Patrick or or to whoever it is down in the Ford line.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, fucking luxuries to have trades isn't right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: Both of them have big issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the role is going to improve either one of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I want, I want Adam chair at a hang around with a high break even more than I want Isaac rank in the hang around.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could be justified in saying that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Think about, okay, so Adam chair had a poor score on the weekend, but prior to that he goes, one, twenty one, one away at one o seven one twenty one o nine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a part of what I expect him to do for the rest of the season, but the high break even at this point, to me, doesn't matter as much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Isaac Rankin, you know, also comparatively has a pretty high break even.
[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't been hit in ninety sixes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he hasn't gone over to C C percent and CBA since round, what was that round six?
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me triple check that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, round eight, sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: So since then, so since round nine, he is now averaging.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's averaging seventy eight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and that's probably what he is.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, he's probably a higher priority than someone like that to go out because we've got a extended sample size.
[SPEAKER_02]: His numbers are probably inflated, but based on what he did the start of the year, but that's not changing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think anytime soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'd probably prioritize him going out.
[SPEAKER_01]: let's say seventy eight for rank inverses let's just call it like a one-o-five for Kennedy what do you got there twenty seven points twenty five and I don't think that there's a midfield that I can trade in that's it going to out average atom chair by twenty seven points consistently you're probably right it will cost you though yes like it's three hundred k so yeah again you're calling
[SPEAKER_02]: a fatten rookie, which maybe we don't have right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that's sort of the way it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't have that cash to do something like that at the moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's to a McCray.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a hundred came-all.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, McCray is still probably going to average what nine, five, would you say?
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's still fifteen points probably there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, still a few points.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's fifteen points at him, chair out of someone else.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the weekend was very poor, but prior to that, you know, he was a guy that we had a lot more confidence in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I think that the logic stands.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what, what with the discussion we're having hopefully is applicable to your players and you're discussing, okay, well, who am I trading out?
[SPEAKER_01]: What do I expect them to average?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who am I trading in?
[SPEAKER_01]: What do I expect them to average and just kind of work out?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because we are, and one of the things we'll talk about with luxury trades is, and as we're looking a bit more short-term, but there is still eight weeks to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're still probably at the point coming out of the bar events that you're trying to get players that you're going to expect to be in your side for the rest of the season bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the last one or two weeks you might flick them out for some matchups or something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I really want to get them on a nice run, but there's still eight weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's basically a third of the season still to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a decent enough time that you're going to have these guys in.
[SPEAKER_02]: So try not to get too cute too soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Would be, I guess, the case.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you popped English here as well, who just is a question mark for that whole rucks in R.O.
[SPEAKER_01]: and whether his run coming up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the next two games are not great.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he's got three games.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think in his next.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's next three games.
[SPEAKER_02]: North Adelaide Brisbane, all tough.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we can't have eighties from English when we're getting one-thirties from Brody Grundy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to climb the ranks, it's just you can't climb that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's the thing about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, I know where we're banging on here, and this is a podcast going to go for a franchise.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is what this most of the season is going to be about for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it begs the question.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're looking for the most amount of points in the short term future that you're going to get between the person you currently have and the person you want to trade in,
[SPEAKER_01]: I can genuinely say it's scenario where Tim English goes sub-ninet for the next three weeks and Brody Grande goes, one, fifteen plus.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I can go that far because, yes, he scored eight on the weekend, but that's his only his second score below ninety for the entire season.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's versed, Brisbane, he's versed, goal-coast, like he's played, calling wood.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's had these tougher matchups.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to be too reactive there, but some people might be thinking, yeah, fuck yeah, Timming, which I've been averaging a hundred and eight.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is something that is on my radar, especially because he's break games now going up to one, twenty-six.
[SPEAKER_02]: One point one, two, five million.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of money in his head.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could do a fair bit with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think he's further down in the concern department for me personally.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's talk about some trade-in targets.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're kind of covering everything a bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hodgepodge today, but hopefully there's some value that people are finding.
[SPEAKER_01]: And let's talk about those defenders.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the names you're going to hear are likely to be those guys that we talked about as being top of the line.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a bit more clear color.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the defense went field.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is someone who's interesting because he's cheap.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very cheap right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nine forty two k. He has a break even a hundred and fifty.
[SPEAKER_02]: He versus the West Coast Eagles and this could be a move point because you might not play this week with the concussion protocol.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they play on a, are they playing Friday?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or aren't saying that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, MacArthur use said was difficult.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Friday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll hopefully not early enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: But.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the problem is you might know that he's playing, but there's an argument to suggest that you wait.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one, fifty's a big score.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, last time we said this, it was of course, Zach Merritt, you know, see how that turned out.
[SPEAKER_01]: But even if Loki would fill plays and GWS get through to three quarter time with a clean bill of health, is there even a scenario there where they just go park Loki for the last quarter or I think that there's a
[SPEAKER_02]: A small chance.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the more likely scenario is that he just doesn't play because you think it's a matchup that they're going to win quite comfortably.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and that obviously is easy because it just makes everyone's mind up for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then we're asking ourselves the same question the following week.
[SPEAKER_01]: What about, uh, Dane Zorco, Locky Ash Wang, these guys that you want to make a matter of priority if you haven't already got them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I'm going to leave Zorco for a week with the tough matchup against Port Adelaide.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so I'm going to rule him out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Max Holmes.
[SPEAKER_02]: He versus Richmond this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, now.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's on the borderline of that top six.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I probably would like to get him over someone like a Zorker.
[SPEAKER_02]: And remember, this is where these defenders can start to bleed into our midfield, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has shown a ceiling, like I mean, seventy-one against the lines.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a harder matchup, but in Essen and Gold Coast, in the previous two, one, forty-six, and one, thirty-one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That shows me that he's got an ability to beat up on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think yeah, this is a nice match up for him as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And with at least with getting more of the attention recently, he could benefit.
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, it could be a defense.
[SPEAKER_02]: It could be a midfield, but I like the look of him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wayne to me seems like he's D-One just by far and away.
[SPEAKER_02]: Started a little bit slower on this last game at one o'clock and still
[SPEAKER_02]: He's gone five tons in a row, only one of them being a low, below, hundred and ten, which was a one-on-nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had a seventy-six against the West Coast Eagles, but then three games before that, all tons again.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just been incredible.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, if I'm in the season, he's had three games below a hundred.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's incredible.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, to me, he is the most must have of all the defenders, and then maybe it's kind of rosy, but I think a lot of us already have kind of rosy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, if I'm spending up, it's to weighing.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple interesting names I want to talk about in the midfield with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk the acid and boys first.
[SPEAKER_01]: So merit that the justification for bringing in merit this week would be two days at matchups in a row.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sheepers chips compared to what's like merit can be.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it enough for you to pull the trigger this week?
[SPEAKER_02]: It.
[SPEAKER_02]: could be if I was desperate for an upgrade he's all I could get to I don't mind it I think he I think he will be better than what he has been um it is it is he's been bad enough long enough that I've got doubts yeah like I'm not sitting here going yet it's a home run play at Zach Merritt he's he's been the one-o-eight guy for ten years which is all true um
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's been enough shit games this year, um, that he's giving me doubts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Would I go, would you go merit or called well if you had the option to do either?
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the merit move if you have just want to throw a caution to the wind and have nothing to, I was going to say nothing to live for, nothing to play for.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, sorry, miss speak.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I love the cold well move if you want to consolidate a great spot and you, like maybe a little bit more risk of us.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if I was a betting man, I think Colewell is the guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if I was, I want to get a leg up on the competition for a discounted price and potentially get a guy who is massive at very much a discounted price, then merit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Would you go slightly different comparison if we're talking top dogs?
[SPEAKER_02]: Would you go cold well or would you go Dawson to trade in this week?
[SPEAKER_02]: Dawson plays against Melbourne and called well versus Gold Coast with Richmond the week after.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Dawson is going Melbourne and then he dogs, but then he goes Gold Coast.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Dawson is twenty two k more expensive.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, slightly cheaper.
[SPEAKER_02]: And cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it also has the lower break even at ninety five versus Dawson's one twenty nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of the signs are leading.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really like cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: You look at Dawson's last for and there's actually nothing really to write home about.
[SPEAKER_01]: he's kind of leaning on a few ceiling scores from earlier in the year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll go call well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm there as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to, I'm going to take his average with those couple of low to hold games out.
[SPEAKER_02]: So any game where he's gone over seventy percent.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a hundred and sixteen and a half.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a weapon.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a genuine weapon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Only one game, a lot of hundred and that was a ninety seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know I said the stuff about, you know, the risky risky high reward players merit, but the safe high reward play could be.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean the higher it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it really is just staring us in the face.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, I imagine he's lowly owned compared to to Dawson.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you could be cheap.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's priced at a hundred and five hundred and six, but he could put ten points on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's done that so far.
[SPEAKER_02]: The only, yeah, the fact is this price is because he had that engine game and came back really gently.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's got a good run, so he looks like a good target to me in the midfield.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you've got the money to go all the way up, can I talk to you about some swans?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because Arrow's been back for two games here, and he also saved his score a little bit on the weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: But in the weeks that he's been back last two weeks, Isaac Hene is averaging close to one, fifteen in those last two weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is Isaac Hene scoring linked to the return of error?
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing is Isaac Hene kicked five goals in the weekend, five zero and got a one, seventeen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I want to rely on that to be replicable.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm probably going to lean on the body of work that has been the entire season more so than the last two games.
[SPEAKER_02]: Personally, so no, I'm not so sold on on Isaac and the arrow is interesting himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: One twenty-four break even for Arrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're sitting way in a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're probably right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: The one thing I will say on there, I say anything is you hundred percent right on the five goals, but Paply, Golden, Mills, now have been back and there's another name I think I'm missing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, Sydney is starting to get a negative team back and they beat Port Adelaide, I think it was, and then they obviously were ran the doggy's close this weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm expecting for the back half of the season to see a more competitive Sydney, and I think that that may be lent itself to better scoring from their big guns.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can't remember who the other player was talking about anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I, that could be the case.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, yeah, don't know if this is the time of the year for, um, with someone like a henny, when it's like he's, well, it was his process, actually, because he's not too far away for some other really good players.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, nine, seventy seven.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like he's more expensive than a bot than a botters than a
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of these guys so these are all guys that we just said fit into that bracket of just don't know so I wouldn't move out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I wouldn't train him in I don't think Let's talk in the Ford line
[SPEAKER_02]: How much are we just paying up for those top, I'm gonna say top two especially in Nick Martin and Matt Kennedy, because they are expensive.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it now the time of the year we go fuck the price?
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just go and get me a big dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say Kennedy's got a break into one twenty nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: He put up his first subton since round five.
[SPEAKER_02]: In an eighty six.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm being crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go as you're going to come down a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Bayley Smith, we're obviously just assuming everyone has at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing and you mentioned the massive price discrepancy, but the thing that makes me think that this kind of peak could just be great is, you know, what the likes of Caleb Daniel and Isaac Rankin and
[SPEAKER_01]: Even horn frances have been giving us it's it's twenty five even sometimes thirty points less than what Kennedy and Jackson have been doing recently um that's a lot of points
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was four points difference between Rankin and Kenny on the weekend.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know Rankin played Richmond.
[SPEAKER_01]: But in that game, you're looking at what Rankin's been giving us for seven weeks, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're looking at, like, the low score of Kennedy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're just, we're just, I guess, trying to prioritize other moves.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, would you go and Kenny or Nick Martin if you had the choice between the two?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'd still get Nick Martin.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nick Martin does have a better run in Gold Coast Richmond.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's done it for longer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably has a higher ceiling.
[SPEAKER_02]: You definitely has a higher ceiling.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's one CC six and he has Richmond coming up into a mix, which is when he did his one CC six.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I think he would be if I didn't have either of those two.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd probably go Nick Martin first.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's only about twenty Katie difference now.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's twenty Katie, Nick Martin's is probably good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've chatted for a long time today, Matt.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we did, Matt.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did make lots of lots to talk about.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually try it season.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's my favorite time of year.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it will be fascinating, especially this year, given the what we've got going on in, especially the midfield and maybe some other lines where
[SPEAKER_02]: that the top of the line is a little bit less clear and the strategy around that as a result.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a little bit up in the air.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you'll be interested to see what works and what doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_02]: No matter what I do, I'm sure we'll be the thing that doesn't work and we'll learn from that next year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anything else before we sign off mate?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm done like an enemy.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's call it there guys.
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