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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm smelling something.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I know some of the news is crap and uh... you know we understand that but look there's some good news and of course john fuel saying joining us a little bit later today thank you for coming
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[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, thank you first of all.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hello, people of the future.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_07]: So today's been one of those trying days in a number of different ways.
[SPEAKER_07]: And you and I were both tried by we've been.
[SPEAKER_07]: Pistoff is just a good way to say.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, look, we shared this media environment.
[SPEAKER_07]: I have described this before to people.
[SPEAKER_07]: Look, if you're in a town, I used to deliver auto parts when I was in college.
[SPEAKER_07]: Little, little, little, crummy little car, drive all over town to deliver auto parts.
[SPEAKER_07]: If you deliver auto parts or if you deliver pizzas in a place,
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, especially in an area of town, maybe you're your door dash and or whatever.
[SPEAKER_07]: You tend to know the other door dashers.
[SPEAKER_07]: You have a bottle part to say, if you're doing the same thing and media, it's the same thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is to some degree like you're virtually working in the same physical environment.
[SPEAKER_07]: And when somebody in your office, your virtual office comes over and takes a crap on your desk.
[SPEAKER_07]: It rightfully pisses you off.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we have a whole lot of people in our news media environment in the United States in mainstream legacy media who couldn't count their eyeballs and get the same number twice.
[SPEAKER_07]: We can give them a drink of water and they wouldn't know what the hell it's for and then they'd say I'm thirsty.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I understand, I understand for those of you who are frustrated and fed up with the mainstream media because God knows Jody and I are too.
[SPEAKER_07]: What was the first stories that you were seeing this morning coming out?
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh God, it was so many hours ago.
[SPEAKER_10]: The Pete Heggseth thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: The tantrum that he threw.
[SPEAKER_10]: What a little whiny baby.
[SPEAKER_07]: totally absolutely you would you would think you would think I mean he's been he's been kissing foxes ass ages and ages and ages no no no no no no no this this this morning so for for those of you missed it obviously the mainstream media is still focused on Iraq because it's a war and we all know they love to focus on war that they would like us to be in
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, because they think falsely, I say, they think that war drives up their ratings and money, but you would also think that Pete Higgs, that being friends with most of the people at Fox, since he used to work there, et cetera, would be nice to their big Pentagon reporter, Jen Griffin, who
[SPEAKER_07]: Jennifer Griffin, I'm surprised sometimes she works at Fox.
[SPEAKER_07]: She actually is going to talk a lot like Jessica Tarlab.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_07]: She and Tarlab are basically if you remove those two, I think Fox would be even more screwed because they really don't have a whole lot of legitimate folks over there.
[SPEAKER_07]: And Griffin and Tarlab are
[SPEAKER_07]: The only two I can name off the top of my head over there.
[SPEAKER_07]: But this is how Pete Higgs has treated Jennifer Griffin this morning at this somewhat abruptly called press conference at eight o'clock Eastern time in the freaking morning.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that seems awfully early and check this check this clip series.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's about highly enriched uranium.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have
[SPEAKER_00]: certainty that all the Highland Rich Uranium was inside the Fordo Mountain or some of it because there were satellite photos that showed more than a dozen trucks there, two days in advance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you certain none of that Highland Rich Uranium was moved?
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course we're watching every single aspect, but Jennifer, you've been about the worst.
[SPEAKER_03]: The one who misrepresent the most intentionally.
[SPEAKER_03]: What the president says.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm familiar about the ventilation shafts on Saturday night.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in fact, I was the first to describe the B-two bombers, the refueling, the entire mission with great accuracy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I take issue with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate you acknowledge this is the first, the most successful mission based on operational security that this department has done since you beat here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_07]: So let me get this straight.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's congratulating her on doing a good job for reporting.
[SPEAKER_07]: And now I appreciate you doing it right.
[SPEAKER_07]: But this is just moments after he just beat the crap out of her and tried to trash her reporting.
[SPEAKER_10]: well he didn't like that she was reporting basically the problem that he and Donald and and oh my god and everybody's saying obliterated have you heard that like every other spokesperson for the White House is it a blit no it didn't there is no the if it blit or anything literally obliterate something it's like being partially pregnant right in yet yeah you can't be a little bit pregnant kids
[SPEAKER_10]: And we've seen this satellite photos and apparently, according to reporting from the region, as well as our own people, which believe them are not, there's very little or no radiation leaking.
[SPEAKER_10]: And if they had actually got
[SPEAKER_10]: any of the uranium and it went kablui.
[SPEAKER_10]: There would be some radiation leaking out of it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Some even miniscule.
[SPEAKER_10]: I probably have more radiation on my microwave leaking at this point.
[SPEAKER_07]: I do not doubt that.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that's, that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is, but this is what the, the mainstream media was chasing most of the morning.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_07]: And everybody was there.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's all.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a show.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's an episode.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a bad episode of TV.
[SPEAKER_07]: You've done TV.
[SPEAKER_07]: You've done movies.
[SPEAKER_07]: I've been a movie.
[SPEAKER_07]: I've been on, you know, some live TV here and there.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is a really crap show.
[SPEAKER_10]: And really bad acting.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, but I just can't, it's unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_07]: Literally unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I, this is not what Americans want to watch.
[SPEAKER_07]: This goes along with the immigration issues.
[SPEAKER_07]: So they've been focused on war.
[SPEAKER_07]: They should be focused on things like, for example, it's still pride month.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hello.
[SPEAKER_07]: Today is the tenth anniversary of a burger film.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: That was Dana Goldberg's gay that day was Mr. Obergefell himself.
[SPEAKER_10]: I saw that.
[SPEAKER_10]: I was super glad of that.
[SPEAKER_07]: If you have not seen Dana Goldberg's gay of the day for this month, go check out her social media, especially at Instagram Instagram.
[SPEAKER_07]: loose guy.
[SPEAKER_07]: She's been doing these great videos on gay the day.
[SPEAKER_07]: Go forward.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm watching.
[SPEAKER_07]: You can even forward them after this month because you know what, you should be proud no matter what you are.
[SPEAKER_07]: Unless you're, you know, a bigot or misogynist or just to, you know, an A whole and then no, don't be proud of that.
[SPEAKER_07]: But if you're a good person, regardless of, you know, who you love, hey, be proud of that any day of the week.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, by the way, speaking of gay, some, I don't know who said it, but when Donald got home from NATO, which he was made fun of by the queen of the Netherlands, which was really, she's fantastic.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love her.
[SPEAKER_10]: But when he came home, some, I don't know who reported it, but somebody said daddy's home.
[SPEAKER_07]: This has been going on for a long time.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: This has been going on now for a while on the right that they've been trying to to markets Donald Trump as a father figure.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, but when you say daddy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's it's different than father.
[SPEAKER_10]: And especially if if it's a guy saying it and it is pride month.
[SPEAKER_10]: We were I said that to David Ferguson today on Bob show and he goes, look, I am gay and that grosses me out.
[SPEAKER_07]: because it is it's like daddy's home and it's like yeah come on it is it is ridiculous but this is this is I mean we have fun with some of this stuff obviously pride is supposed to be a fun and a celebratory thing and and that's great and we should all be really glad that marriage because it's marriage regardless you want to kind of marriage game marriages it's a marriage just like every other kind of exactly thank you but anyway so
[SPEAKER_07]: We should all be focused on that, but we should also be focused on things like these stupid ass Supreme Court decision today, because that's.
[SPEAKER_07]: Just me off, but do you do you do you understand some of the details as far as that goes from what I understand is the Supreme Court is allowing states to
[SPEAKER_10]: disallow Medicaid to cover plan parenthood or any doctor basically if they don't like a provider that provides health care in their state and Medicare is one of the things that pays for that say you say you take like I have friends that are on medical which is Medicare and California in a California do that but and they want to go to a doctor that right now is under Medicaid the accept Medicaid thinking then say now we're not going to pay Medicaid will not pay you for your services
[SPEAKER_07]: States States have a control over that now.
[SPEAKER_07]: So here's here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: I like a lot of Supreme Court cases.
[SPEAKER_07]: They are not what they claim to be about.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: And this is another one.
[SPEAKER_07]: Chris Geidner, who I've known on and off for years.
[SPEAKER_07]: He has a fantastic journalist focused almost exclusively on the law these days.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's at lawdork.
[SPEAKER_07]: Lawdork.com is his sub stack and he does a fantastic job, especially Supreme Court stuff.
[SPEAKER_07]: So he broke it down today and he said, okay, you know, despite all of this having abortion context and surrounding abortion and women's health care, it's not actually about that.
[SPEAKER_07]: What it's actually about is the private enforcement portion of a reconstruction era civil rights law, the Civil Rights Act of eighteen seventy one.
[SPEAKER_07]: And the cases, the opinion today that came down to the Supreme Court basically says, well, the lower courts had found that individual lawsuits were allowed under this subsection of this eighteen seventy-one law that say that if you are in a state and a law says any qualified provider is supposed to be authorized to be paid by Medicaid.
[SPEAKER_07]: Then whatever provider that state, whatever, whatever healthcare provider that state says this, this one is allowed, this one is on the good list, then they have to pay for regardless.
[SPEAKER_07]: And basically, of course, such says, not really if they accept federal funds or if there's this or if there's other thing, then they could change that.
[SPEAKER_07]: basically doing one of their stupid little things so it's it is long and short what it's going to do is what the left warned about when they put dobs into effect which they said it's going to end up with states and areas where there is a lot of
[SPEAKER_07]: where women's health care, where abortion health services are allowed legally.
[SPEAKER_07]: And in fact, oftentimes supported fully by the state.
[SPEAKER_07]: And you could go two steps across the state line and it is now a crime.
[SPEAKER_07]: This, of course, will inevitably lead to another conflict at the top level at the Supreme Court.
[SPEAKER_07]: Now, this is where the folks on our side, we need to be understanding of how the right has played this game in the past.
[SPEAKER_07]: They played this so they could put this off until they had a court that was favorable to them.
[SPEAKER_07]: We need to do the same thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: Do not take this case all the way up to the Supreme Court right now, because I guarantee if you take it all the way up to the Supreme Court right now, those fascist monsters are going to come down and say, nah, screw it, nobody can have abortion.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, I mean, well, so we need to take it.
[SPEAKER_07]: We need to take it back up.
[SPEAKER_07]: But we need to take it back up at the same time.
[SPEAKER_07]: We have Democrats in the house in the Senate trying to push for the right to put in the equal rights amendment, for example.
[SPEAKER_07]: I love like that.
[SPEAKER_07]: That will write and just, but I mean, blast that sucker through and say, you know what, fine, we have a one off little law here that says, even if it was past the date, it's perfectly fine, bam, do it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, the thing is just so that everybody knows right now under the height of amendment.
[SPEAKER_10]: No federal money can go to abortion services anyway.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: So what's the point of defunding was planned.
[SPEAKER_10]: Her hoods and they're not getting the money.
[SPEAKER_10]: In fact, South Carolina, which was the state that brought this only gives ninety thousand dollars a year to plan parenthood.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right, but see, plant parenthood does so much more than a board.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know they do.
[SPEAKER_07]: All kinds of women's health care.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're great.
[SPEAKER_07]: And right, but the right wants to kill them off completely so that they can't do that, which inevitably is going to hurt people, especially in the rural areas where they don't have very many health care providers.
[SPEAKER_07]: And in some cases, the people.
[SPEAKER_07]: then and women go to plant parenthood by the way it's not just ladies every gender it's gone hurt everybody and especially the poor and the people in areas about a whole lot of health care providers too we got a lot more to talk about with this and more talk about with the real news that is out there if you missed any of it you can always catch the news on tap at the politics bar dot com sign up subscribe you'll get that in your main email box every day we got more coming for you here on a Thursday night at the politics bar get around and hang on
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[SPEAKER_07]: We're back on a Thursday night here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_07]: Joni and I are talking with you about something that the mainstream media should be talking a hell of a lot more about and it is a Supreme Court decisions today.
[SPEAKER_07]: Joni, it is.
[SPEAKER_07]: really it's it's extremely frustrating obviously the plan parenthood the decision to try to cut off funding for that we should say we won't we will get out to somebody here we've got a few experts we can get out to see if we can get somebody in to talk about that and some of the other cases tomorrow because there are going to be six cases coming down from the Supreme Court tomorrow all the big ones yeah all the rest of them
[SPEAKER_07]: Remember when I said yesterday, I said, I thought that they were going to do this.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is a debating term that it's called a gish gallo.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it basically means that you are putting out so much BS that by the time the person who you are debating with tries to correct the first factor, the first three facts that you got wrong,
[SPEAKER_07]: You're ten lies down the road.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, yeah, that's what Donald Trump did.
[SPEAKER_10]: Did his debates.
[SPEAKER_10]: And that's what he meant to do.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, that first debate with Barack Obama was like, Obama was looking at, I'm like, I don't even know how to respond to this.
[SPEAKER_07]: I still say, I will still, I have had a throw down in other bars, not this one, and not literally, but almost literally, throw down with other people in journalism about who won that first debate, and it was Obama, not
[SPEAKER_07]: Romney and people say, how can you say that?
[SPEAKER_07]: And I said, because Romney didn't have any facts.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Same with the Donald Biden debate.
[SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's one of the reasons that that debate as bad as it was for Biden wasn't actually that bad, but the description that I have used on that before.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I think I remember telling Ellie this when he was here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_07]: Quite frankly, when you invite somebody in for a debate into your house, like they did at CNN, and you let them barf lies all over the place, all over your carpet, all over your couch, all over your table.
[SPEAKER_07]: You'll let them puke that kind of garbage all over the place.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, but you can't tell me that person was great and it was a good time at the party.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_07]: And, and quite frankly, I have no faith that you can actually host a decent party at that point.
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[SPEAKER_07]: something else that was helpful Supreme Court had was at four rulings today, five or least a day, I think, and they did have a ruling today on the death penalty.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was death penalty.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's like, what do I was surprised at that?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, six three decision today.
[SPEAKER_10]: We're the three that descended.
[SPEAKER_07]: Um, they were all conservatives, but they were the Catholic conservatives or well, they were at the well now.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's there.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think there's four of them.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, it was the leave.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was a Lito and Thomas and I can't remember the leaders Catholic.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, yeah, but I mean, you should be against the death penalty.
[SPEAKER_07]: Alino should be a lot of things, not on the Supreme Court is one of them true, but I mean, if he's a real Catholic, that's a big thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's a cafeteria.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's a cafeteria Catholic.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's a, you know, he picks and chooses, which, you know, anyway, but
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, six, three decision.
[SPEAKER_07]: The case was actually over.
[SPEAKER_07]: There was a Texas inmate and he was seeking DNA testing to prove that he should not be executed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Basically to rule him out as the suspect, even though he was convicted of it.
[SPEAKER_07]: And because of weird Texas law, they're like, no, no, no, and and it came back and they went, no, no, technically, yeah, he should, he should get a chance to prove that.
[SPEAKER_10]: I will never understand prosecutors.
[SPEAKER_10]: that don't want to have ultimate proof that somebody's especially on death row, but anybody, if it would just done by blood or bodily fluids, and they didn't have DNA testing at the time, anything.
[SPEAKER_07]: Because they're not looking, they're not looking.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't understand if you, if you are in the business of justice,
[SPEAKER_10]: And you've prosecuted somebody and that person was successfully convicted for the evidence that you had at the time.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: And there could be new evidence to exonerate that person.
[SPEAKER_10]: I will never understand DA's fighting that.
[SPEAKER_10]: I will never understand it.
[SPEAKER_10]: It makes it literally no sense because it's either going to prove it because you're a good person.
[SPEAKER_07]: And because you understand what's at stake.
[SPEAKER_07]: They are not playing that game that way, Joey.
[SPEAKER_07]: They don't think of, they don't think of the person who is up for conviction as a human being.
[SPEAKER_07]: They think of as number, and they don't want their number of cases that they've won to go down.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's really disgusting.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm agree with you, a hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean to me, there was a very famous case where this woman was raped and she misidentified her rapist and this guy served like thirty years.
[SPEAKER_10]: She now does this whole thing to help victims of crime that convicted the wrong people and then the people that were there convicted, leading the people that convicted them so that they can all kind of
[SPEAKER_10]: deal with their trauma.
[SPEAKER_10]: And when she realized, because it was cross races, which I went and tested money with cross races is always bad, because it's very hard to, because we're human.
[SPEAKER_10]: When we see somebody of a different race and a bunch of people in the same line up look similar, we're going to pick somebody that looks kind of like the person maybe, because unless when you're traumatized, you're less likely to remember certain things.
[SPEAKER_10]: So on top of being traumatized and it was cross,
[SPEAKER_10]: races, she missed identity and this guy sort of time he didn't do it.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I think it was DNA that or something else finally exonerated him.
[SPEAKER_10]: And so he was released and she now is friends with him, which is lovely and they've started this thing to help victims of crime as well as the people that they wrongly convicted to kind of deal with it.
[SPEAKER_10]: And so it's a wonderful thing and very difficult for both sides to kind of come together and go, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's been for a lot of people to admit that they were wrong.
[SPEAKER_07]: And in whatever they do, but I think more people need to do that.
[SPEAKER_07]: They need to admit when they're wrong.
[SPEAKER_07]: The national news media.
[SPEAKER_07]: needs to admit that what they are doing, the mainstream legacy news media needs to admit that the way that they are doing things, the way they have been doing things.
[SPEAKER_07]: And like, you know some of these people, I know a lot of these people.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know a lot of them either as an acquaintance, or I know some of them even better than that.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's one of the reasons, as I've mentioned before, in certain circles, especially in national political media, I'm known as the A-hol.
[SPEAKER_07]: So here's an example of how
[SPEAKER_07]: how much integrity in some ways I have.
[SPEAKER_07]: So back in the day I used to do some media consulting, business consulting, you know, create graphics and create ad programs and things back in the Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_07]: And my mom had a business at the time and maybe furniture store and whatever.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so she decided that she wanted to hire me because she knew that I could communicate with her.
[SPEAKER_07]: and i would communicate with her in the same way that i did with some of my other clients because she asked me to do that and i said you understand this means she says okay i said
[SPEAKER_07]: I swear a lot with them.
[SPEAKER_07]: I do not treat some of these people very nicely and they understand.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll do whatever it takes.
[SPEAKER_07]: If it takes me being nice and putting a banana in my ear to get you to pay attention, I will do that.
[SPEAKER_07]: If it takes me looking to you and going, hey, dumbass, what the hell is your FN problem?
[SPEAKER_07]: And people go, that's what you're paying me for.
[SPEAKER_07]: You're paying me to get through to you.
[SPEAKER_07]: You're not paying me be nice to you.
[SPEAKER_07]: And when I would say that to people oftentimes they would go, okay, now I hire you because I want somebody to tell me the things that nobody else will tell me.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that is oftentimes why certain people in the National Media call me the A whole because I don't give a damn who you think you are.
[SPEAKER_07]: I couldn't give a crap less.
[SPEAKER_07]: The job is the job is the job.
[SPEAKER_07]: And the job right now that a lot of the people that we know are colleagues, generally in the national media, they're doing is pretty crap.
[SPEAKER_07]: They have touched on this Supreme Court decision a couple of these.
[SPEAKER_07]: They barely, if anybody, has hardly touched the Texas decision.
[SPEAKER_07]: They aren't really previewing tomorrow's decisions.
[SPEAKER_07]: They have tried to avoid discussing the big ugly bill.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll talk about that a little bit later too.
[SPEAKER_07]: immigration that the whole immigration wars for them is oh it's boring we've we've heard the stories before so they're not paying a whole lot more attention to that they're not paying nearly the level of attention to that that they should
[SPEAKER_07]: And a good journalist guy mentioned here before Greg Sargent these days he writes for the new Republic.
[SPEAKER_07]: Sergeant to always got his eyes on stuff like this.
[SPEAKER_07]: And he said today new Quinnipiac poll finds support for the path to legalization for most undocumented immigrants.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's now risen to sixty four percent of Americans.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's literally more than two thirds of Americans want a path legalization for all undocumented immigrants.
[SPEAKER_07]: Only thirty-bomb only thirty-one percent of what most of them deported.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a fourteen-point swing since Trump took office.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not even six months.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, by the way, on immigration generally, he's at forty-one fifty-seven, forty-one percent supporting fifty-seven percent.
[SPEAKER_07]: Again, that's almost two-thirds of the people in the country saying the way that Trump is is dealing with immigration is wrong.
[SPEAKER_07]: And yet you still see so many people in the media go, oh, well, he's right about this and that, no, he's not.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's not, and he's not going to get people to support him because of the absolute disastrous way that they're handling things with that.
[SPEAKER_07]: In fact, there is a new Trump administration regime plan that could in asylum claims for hundreds of thousands of immigrants.
[SPEAKER_07]: People who are here legally, who've been here from years.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, going back to W Bush and, you know, and nope, hundreds of thousands.
[SPEAKER_10]: There was an Iranian who was picked up, who had been here for fifty years.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I in San Diego.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think I didn't include that one.
[SPEAKER_07]: I knew there was another one.
[SPEAKER_07]: I caressed Trump supporter.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_07]: And and process him practically instantly.
[SPEAKER_07]: They are trying all of these stupid things like this.
[SPEAKER_07]: In fact, the Trump DOJ is right now, suing every single federal district judge in Maryland.
[SPEAKER_07]: because they have a new thing in Maryland where they say, look, if somebody is being ordered deported, there needs to be like, I think it's a forty-eight hour hold or something like that to make sure that the law is actually correct.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: And the Trump DOJ is like screw you and screw the law.
[SPEAKER_07]: If we want to pick these people up and get them out of here, we want to do that.
[SPEAKER_10]: And that's the other thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I saw photographs, somebody in Los Angeles took where their ice agents just waiting in an immigration lobby.
[SPEAKER_07]: there is a story.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's on the news on top of the court lobby to be precise.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's it's actually it's from the NBC Bay Area station.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's a little video that talks about another thing that ISIS doing kind of, you know, with with waiting in the lobby and talks about how they're actually then moving them to a different district so that they can get a different judge in a different ruling.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's you should watch the clip if you haven't seen it politics bar dot com today's news on top.
[SPEAKER_10]: So it's basically what Donald is telling everybody is even if you're doing the right thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: you're out of here.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's and it's not even really necessarily him because we know that that while Donald Trump is somewhat harsh on this, he can be pushed by public opinion by opinion of the last person in the room, whatever.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is Stephen Miller.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: And he's just he's he's just
[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't stick this one in there, too.
[SPEAKER_07]: Did you hear that Tom Hobag?
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_07]: Homein.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's funny.
[SPEAKER_07]: But what's even more funny is, Tom Homein and his wife are currently separated because of all the death threats and the people who hate him.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, look, I don't think anybody should be throwing death threats.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, and don't dox him.
[SPEAKER_10]: Don't dox his family.
[SPEAKER_10]: Don't do that.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's wrong on all accounts.
[SPEAKER_10]: But you know what, Tom?
[SPEAKER_10]: They're a better ways to do your job that are under the law.
[SPEAKER_07]: They don't just arrest people and then human trafficking to a third country He could ask somebody who worked under Obama Biden or Bush and all of even probably Clinton there probably still some people around from there and he could ask any of these people because they all did some and they didn't do any of the kind of theater that's going on like
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, yes, people, some people didn't get their due process in time under some of these other presidents, but not the vast majority.
[SPEAKER_10]: And we've got at least seventy at least seventy United States citizens that have been deported.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_07]: Which, I think we had that story was that last week or something like that.
[SPEAKER_07]: We've had, we've had that, that's, that's in previous editions of the news.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's just gross.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's gross and it's wrong.
[SPEAKER_07]: Our legitimate mainstream legacy news media should be focusing on more of these kinds of stories.
[SPEAKER_07]: And unfortunately, they're simply not.
[SPEAKER_07]: They are right now
[SPEAKER_07]: Just hose in themselves.
[SPEAKER_07]: And when people ask, why don't you know, why why is the trust in the media so low?
[SPEAKER_07]: It's one of the reasons that for years I have said, we need to have standards within the industry.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, I don't want the government to come in and set the rules for media and news.
[SPEAKER_07]: That is fascist garbage and I don't want that.
[SPEAKER_07]: But I do think the industry itself has some, I mean, look, we're hanging out in the bar right now.
[SPEAKER_07]: There are plenty of food service rules that, yes, some of them were with OSHA and stuff.
[SPEAKER_07]: But there are industry rules just across the board and certain corners of the industry where you do certain things and you do it because everybody wants the industry to be the same kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: They want people not to think of, for example, bars as a place where people go to drink before they get in a car and go kill somebody.
[SPEAKER_07]: They don't want bars in general, do not want that to be the image that you think of when you think of a bar.
[SPEAKER_07]: They want you to think of like cheers.
[SPEAKER_07]: And you go, oh, it's a fun place.
[SPEAKER_07]: See, place where I go and see my friends and hang out and talk about fun stuff, which we do here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_07]: some of the reasons that bars are a lot better now than they were, you know, post-prohibition almost a hundred years ago was because the industry itself decided to do some self-regulation because they understood the importance of good PR for the bar industry.
[SPEAKER_07]: So the news industry needs to do the same thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: We, as an industry, a lot of people think we suck and they think we suck rightfully so because quite frankly, a lot of people in the industry that were in, they suck.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, and, you know, as the phrase that Cat Abigail says, you know, what if we didn't suck?
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, I'm, I'm with that.
[SPEAKER_07]: We have more things that don't suck here.
[SPEAKER_07]: We have some, some, some better news for you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Some, uh, a drink during the day.
[SPEAKER_07]: There is, um, kind of right in line with what we've been discussing on this.
[SPEAKER_07]: Of course, John Fugelsang is coming in.
[SPEAKER_07]: He might be coming in a little bit early here to the bar.
[SPEAKER_07]: We will,
[SPEAKER_07]: Get on with him and talk about the New York City Mayor's race because y'all know that John lives in New York City.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sure has some opinions about what's going down there.
[SPEAKER_07]: So grab yourself another round.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll get you the drink of the day coming up next right here on the Thursday night at the politics bar.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Jody, you know, we've been talking about people in the industry who don't know what the hell they're doing in the media and news industry.
[SPEAKER_07]: And quite frankly, there's a drink that is actually for them.
[SPEAKER_07]: And you picked that out even before we really got some of the news today.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I think you as always are, you know, well, you know, we say around here, Jody is right.
[SPEAKER_07]: What is today's drink of the day?
[SPEAKER_10]: It is called an attitude adjuster.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, they need that.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it is dedicated to, uh, as Sarah Palin used to call it, the lame stream media for failing to do their job.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, they were worried about clickbait.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, you know what, if you tell the truth about this guy, trust me, you're going to get clickbait.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's just, you don't have to puff him up to get ratings and make money.
[SPEAKER_10]: Tell the truth, trust me.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: People are hungry for the truth.
[SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_07]: They need an attitude to gesture.
[SPEAKER_07]: What's what's in an attitude to gesture?
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: So you're going to need either a martini because the picture looks like kind of an almost an old school champagne glass.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: But a martini rocks or high ball glass does
[SPEAKER_10]: They're you could use any of those kind of theory you could use any of those kinds of glasses a shaker some ice then one and a half ounces of gin three quarters of an ounce of quantro got a half ounce of ice in there.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's very nice a half ounce of lime juice two and a half ounces of Coca Cola
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, or maybe somebody likes Pepsi, I suppose.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's a different flavor, but, you know, because Coke has a specific flavor in Pepsi, it's a little sweeter.
[SPEAKER_10]: True.
[SPEAKER_07]: But, you know, I don't judge whether somebody's in the Coke or Pepsi alone.
[SPEAKER_10]: It just, it's just a cola, if we want to be generic.
[SPEAKER_10]: A quarter ounce of gram on you.
[SPEAKER_10]: A quarter ounce of galliano.
[SPEAKER_10]: And if you've never seen it, it's the giant bottle that's always against a wall.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's the one that's at the back of the bar that's like holy hell.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's so tall.
[SPEAKER_10]: And by the way, there are drinks that use the phrase up against a wall.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's how you know, Galeano is in it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm not kidding.
[SPEAKER_10]: There are so many drinks.
[SPEAKER_10]: A slow screw up against a wall.
[SPEAKER_10]: I can tell it's got slow gin.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's got vodka.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's got orange juice.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's got Galeano.
[SPEAKER_07]: But this one has coconut, gram, marnie, and galliano with this.
[SPEAKER_10]: And a one lime wedge, if you want to use it, it's not necessary, but you can, and that's for garnish.
[SPEAKER_10]: So here's what you do.
[SPEAKER_10]: You take the shaker, you add some ice to it, the gin, quantro, and the lime juice, and you shake it until it's chilled.
[SPEAKER_10]: So you know, fifteen, twenty seconds, you'll feel it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Strain the mixture into one of the glasses that you've chosen that is filled with ice, and then you add the Coca-Cola or whatever cola.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then you gently pour the gran marnia and galliano over the back of a spoon to create it so that it looks a little layered.
[SPEAKER_10]: We've done layer drinks before.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then you can garnish on the side of the drink with the lime wedge or put it in the drink.
[SPEAKER_10]: It doesn't really matter.
[SPEAKER_10]: And that'll adjust your attitude.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think what I think would have just my attitude in a very positive way because I you know I enjoy some of that kind of a citrusy kind of a pop to a drink like this so yeah that would that would definitely work I would and Quantro sometimes by itself seems to be maybe a little sharp for some people but obviously mixing it with the grandma and a gariano yeah yeah no it's it sounds like a young drink yeah yeah
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, if you missed the recipe or you missed any of our recipes, you can get them all online.
[SPEAKER_07]: The drinks of the day are all part of your subscription.
[SPEAKER_07]: When you subscribe at the politics bar, that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, back to the news on tap for the day, uh, something else that a lot of the lame stream media as we jokingly talk about that.
[SPEAKER_07]: But that they've missed today.
[SPEAKER_07]: The big ugly bill is getting a big serious asswap and from the Senate parliamentarian.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it was great.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was, it's, you know, you and I were talking about this.
[SPEAKER_07]: And what did you say about the parliamentarian earlier than she kicks ass?
[SPEAKER_07]: She does.
[SPEAKER_07]: She's doing, she is doing her job and she's doing it really, really, really well.
[SPEAKER_07]: Basically, she's just been kicking all kinds of stuff out of here.
[SPEAKER_07]: Not only did she reject the Republican attempts to block federal subsidies for ACA plans that cover abortion services, she kicked that out of there.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's gone.
[SPEAKER_07]: They also, let's see here.
[SPEAKER_07]: A lot of the different attacks on Medicare and Medicaid are basically have been kicked out.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, and the Medicare provider tax.
[SPEAKER_07]: That was, that was the going to be the sweetener, I guess you could say, because remember, a lot of these Republicans are now kind of antsy.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're worried that they're constituents who will end up without health care from Medicare or the ACA.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're worried that they'll be mad and want to kick their ass.
[SPEAKER_07]: which is understandable, duh.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so they're like, well, we want to sweetener.
[SPEAKER_07]: So that the local, you know, people could get whatever they need as far as that goes.
[SPEAKER_07]: The local hospitals wouldn't have to take such a hit.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's that that was their thought.
[SPEAKER_07]: Ah, parliamentarians said, you cannot create a slush fund for local hospitals on this.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is not acceptable and she ruled that out.
[SPEAKER_07]: Totally gutted them on that, which
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, let's see, the provisions that she knocked out so far.
[SPEAKER_07]: She said that the bill cannot deny Medicaid eligibility to immigrants who are not citizens.
[SPEAKER_07]: It cannot prohibit Medicaid participation for adults or children whose citizenship or immigration status cannot be immediately verified.
[SPEAKER_07]: They, they cannot reduce federal Medicaid matching funds for states that provide coverage to undocumented immigrants.
[SPEAKER_07]: They cannot prohibit Medicaid and the CHIP the Children's Health Insurance Program from funding gender affirming care, and they cannot lock states from increasing provider taxes on nursing homes or in-and-readier care facilities, because that would cut health care millions of people.
[SPEAKER_07]: Basically, a lot of the attacks, especially that were focused more on the ACA, the Republicans had buried in this big ugly bill.
[SPEAKER_07]: The parliamentarian said, no, you cannot do that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Not under a reconciliation.
[SPEAKER_10]: You can bring it back, but you're going to need sixty votes for all of this.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that's the key is they want to do it under reconciliation so they can only have to get fifty one votes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Problem and chariots says, ah, not that that works.
[SPEAKER_07]: So now Senate Republican leader Thune is absolutely beside himself.
[SPEAKER_07]: They have, let's see tomorrow is Friday.
[SPEAKER_07]: They got Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and they usually start therefore through the live vacation Thursday.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're going to do the same here.
[SPEAKER_07]: So we've got a couple of best of some of the best interviews we've done recently.
[SPEAKER_07]: So you will enjoy those.
[SPEAKER_07]: But
[SPEAKER_07]: basically have four days.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: To completely rewrite this bill and they don't even have the basic text of the bill written right now.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it's not going to happen.
[SPEAKER_10]: Then the house is going to.
[SPEAKER_10]: The house isn't going to pass the Senate bill.
[SPEAKER_10]: They're just not.
[SPEAKER_07]: When we started this show here was six weeks ago, basically, and I said that what they're going to end up doing is the comeback after Fourth of July, the Senate will have to cobble something together that will pass.
[SPEAKER_07]: It will be a complete pile of garbage and they will send it over to the house and say, you can choke on it because it will include the debt ceiling thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it will include taking care of the debt ceiling so that we don't default.
[SPEAKER_07]: And the Republicans in the House are going to scream bloody murder, because they work so hard to get all these things in there to hurt people.
[SPEAKER_07]: They don't like immigrants and take away care and worship and punch all the people.
[SPEAKER_07]: We don't like, and it's going to come back with virtually none of that garbage.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's going to be garbage.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's still all kinds of other things.
[SPEAKER_07]: It'll hurt people and just be disaster and shovel money into the pockets of the rich.
[SPEAKER_07]: The core of that is still going to be there.
[SPEAKER_07]: But all the other things that are going to hurt the people that they are nominally supposed to represent.
[SPEAKER_07]: Those are not going to be in there.
[SPEAKER_07]: And the people are going to get hurt and they're going to get mad and then those people on Congress at least their jobs.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so they can't vote for it.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not enough.
[SPEAKER_10]: And the water down stuff that people like Chip Roy want to make worse.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: And so it's just the high family values people.
[SPEAKER_10]: You want to starve children.
[SPEAKER_10]: You want to.
[SPEAKER_07]: They've been killing millions.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: You want for that one.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: So that they, you know, Republicans are great at making things worse and killing people.
[SPEAKER_07]: Speaking of somebody who's a monster like that, Russ Vott has been trying to convince senators on the nine point four billion dollars in clawbacks.
[SPEAKER_07]: They want to take the money back that they've already allowed it to NPR, PBS, and foreign aid, including some of those kids and, and prep, prep, prep, prep.
[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't include this one because there's, there's a lot of other stuff in there today, but Lindsey Graham, he's been a big supporter of prep for that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Not anymore.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, now he's now he's supporting Russ bought saying, let's take the money back from them to help with the people who have AIDS, which like you said, if that's the values of the current market Republican party, I don't know how anybody who was a good decent person can actually claim to be proud of being a member of the Republican party.
[SPEAKER_10]: They're not good Christians.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're not good.
[SPEAKER_07]: Anything.
[SPEAKER_07]: We definitely have to talk from John John Fios saying about whether they're good Christians or good Jews or good Muslims.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think they're good.
[SPEAKER_07]: Anything.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think they're good for nothing.
[SPEAKER_07]: But that's if they were decent people, they would choose not to support the kind of monster stuff that they've been supported.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, didn't even Mitch McConnell say if we cut Medicaid, they'll get over it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Dude, Kentucky needs it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, he recently said something like that, which I think that it might have been taken a little bit out of context, but the fact of the matter is you shouldn't even make in a comment even that close.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's just
[SPEAKER_07]: Let's go to some some better news some some fun news that is in the news on tap today Sabrina Carpenter.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sure you heard she's got an album coming out to new one and there's a whole bunch of controversy about the album cover.
[SPEAKER_10]: What is it is it is she smelling a black glove like on spinal tap?
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, the the primary album cover the main album cover is her on her knees in front of a guy and he's got his hand in her hair and it's supposed to kind of look like what you would think it's supposed to look like.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that's she's she's cheeky that's kind of her thing that's she likes to create a little bit of controversy.
[SPEAKER_07]: So now she's created an alternate cover and she's claiming that this alternate cover has been approved by God.
[SPEAKER_07]: So even with her alternate cover, which isn't that bad, but it's still got a little untandra in there.
[SPEAKER_07]: And she's still poking the bear and going, well, this one's approved, but which, of course, is going just to absolutely set the hair on fire of all the people who have, you know, sticks up their butt about, oh my god, oh, you can't have that, you can.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm like, does anybody remember Carly Simon?
[SPEAKER_07]: Can't remember what the name the album was, but the album cover that was similar was way back in the day.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's one of like, seventy-eight that came out.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I'm like, this is nothing new folks.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is it's it's certain artists who want to be cheeky.
[SPEAKER_07]: You want to poke the bear and want to get a little attention.
[SPEAKER_07]: And obviously, it still works.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_07]: Adam Sandler, do you like his comedy at all?
[SPEAKER_10]: Some of it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think he's really good at animation voice over guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's fantastic.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think he's good at that.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm interested to see the the new happy Gilmore movie.
[SPEAKER_07]: Happy Gilmore, too.
[SPEAKER_07]: But he's going back to doing stand up.
[SPEAKER_10]: That'll be interesting.
[SPEAKER_10]: He hasn't done that in forever.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: He's got a stand-up comedy tour that he just announced.
[SPEAKER_07]: I guess tickets are on sale now.
[SPEAKER_07]: So if you like Adam Sandler's comedy, just go and check it out.
[SPEAKER_07]: We've got the link in the news on tap so you can go and check that out and probably get some tickets if that's your thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: Katelyn Clark in the WNBA is injured again heard a groin so she'll be out against the sparks hopefully it's minor and she'll be back just one game thing but remember she's not the only one in the WNBA has proven by Asia Wilson who she's got another WNBA record she has scored five thousand career points
[SPEAKER_07]: I know you're Andy air W MBA there not a whole lot of players have ever done that that's that's amazing good for her bad ass she's really really good she's fun to watch so that's a that's a pretty cool thing and of course a majorly baseball we are basically the midpoint of the season your Dodgers are doing great my nationals are sucking but at least they're not as bad as the rockies that's my brother's team in poor Colorado
[SPEAKER_07]: there.
[SPEAKER_07]: What about thirty three games back?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, basically they could start on next season now.
[SPEAKER_07]: Just you don't give up for us.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm kidding.
[SPEAKER_07]: Never give up.
[SPEAKER_07]: Actually go out and play the game.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hopefully.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, hey, you can get better.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're not going to have a world series, but, you know, but it is the midway point and there are a couple of folks out there who are chasing a home run record.
[SPEAKER_07]: If you want to see that store, you can check it out.
[SPEAKER_07]: The news on tap.
[SPEAKER_07]: at thepaltixbar.com.
[SPEAKER_07]: Jody, I believe John Fughal saying is getting ready.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think he's getting off the train here fairly soon and he will be with us.
[SPEAKER_07]: We will have to talk to him about the New York City Mayor's race and how poorly the media have covered that.
[SPEAKER_07]: And of course, all the other news and we'll see what John's up to as well.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm pretty excited about that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Are you?
[SPEAKER_07]: I am.
[SPEAKER_07]: Good.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Let's go get ourselves another drink another round here and we'll be back with John Fughal saying it's a Thursday night at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_09]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_07]: Look who just breeze in the door coming off the train.
[SPEAKER_07]: Jody, it's the one the only John Fieldo sang.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: John, how are you doing tonight guys?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, listen, I'm celebrating this week because as you might have heard, the movie Greece turns forty seven years old this week.
[SPEAKER_04]: which means the movie Greece is finally old enough to play a teenager in the movie Greece.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we're celebrating.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Pat, there's all some politics in New York as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're happy about that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_07]: We exactly wanted to ask you about this because today's theme in general, John, has been, you know, look, our colleagues in the media have been, they have just been so crap about doing so many things lately.
[SPEAKER_07]: And the way that they have been covering this is
[SPEAKER_07]: is off the charts wrong.
[SPEAKER_07]: There was a bit today from Teddy Schleifer over the New York Times.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if you saw him.
[SPEAKER_07]: This was right up in one of the Times live blogs.
[SPEAKER_07]: And he said, as donors try to assess their next moves in the mayoral race, one of the biggest donors to Andrew Cuomo's super PAC, the investor Mark Gordon said he's likely to back bum Danny.
[SPEAKER_07]: because basically, yes, he donated a Cuomo, but he said, quote, oh, well, it looks like Cuomo is coming back and we don't want to be shut out.
[SPEAKER_07]: So let's try to get on Cuomo's good side.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, that's the investor thought that Cuomo was coming back and going to win.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so he didn't want Cuomo to be mad at him.
[SPEAKER_07]: So they just threw him, you know, two hundred fifty thousand dollars because big, you know, that's, that's what big billionaire investors do.
[SPEAKER_07]: But now he's saying, and he's one of the big, big sharks, I guess, that it backed Cuomo.
[SPEAKER_07]: And this journalist for the New York Times is like, nah, the guy is saying, I'm going to back mom Danny.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, you know, all the all the surprises by an access shot exactly.
[SPEAKER_07]: Look, look, I and I understand this, but it's the people who were in the media who go, oh, well, you know, Cuomo's going to still come back in in general and absolutely kill him and all the money is going to go with him.
[SPEAKER_07]: So now I'm Danny should just go back down.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, go at Cuomo runs as a third party independent.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: like home town hero Eric Adams.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: We don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was pretty convinced that Cuomo was going to do that until the other night.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now I'm not so convinced he's going to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't I think that Cuomo can see what people think he can see where the tide is.
[SPEAKER_04]: He can see how unlike he's become.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, the Cuomo I admire is my hero, and that's their father.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why got to meet twenty years ago when I worked at CNBC and have him sign my book and I revered him.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I have a hard time understanding how Mario Cuomo would have voted for his son, Ober, Zoron, Madonna.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, nothing against Cuomo.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a thrill to have the ghost of Groper's past.
[SPEAKER_04]: But when you look at this,
[SPEAKER_04]: And by the way, if it had been Cuomo, I would have backed him all the way if he was the nominee.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd be all behind him because Curtis Sleewap, you know, come on.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, why don't I just say your money on fire.
[SPEAKER_04]: But all the Zoroan mom donnie's stories I've seen in the last four or eight hours.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jodie backed me up on this.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's two kinds of stories.
[SPEAKER_04]: None about his policies, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: None about his policies of the popularity of his policies, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Whose stories?
[SPEAKER_04]: That he really freaks out the Democratic establishments and that he really freaks out racist idiots.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's it.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the Venn diagram, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: The Democratic machine can't process this guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: He wasn't created in a lab by corporate consultants and, you know, the
[SPEAKER_04]: I of Mark Penn.
[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't know anybody.
[SPEAKER_04]: The guy talks about housing like it's a human right.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is what Christian politicians should be doing.
[SPEAKER_04]: He didn't hire like a PR firm to fight the Muslim Joe Rogan.
[SPEAKER_04]: The truth.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Showed up.
[SPEAKER_04]: He knocked on doors.
[SPEAKER_04]: He told the truth and the maga right has lost their racist minds.
[SPEAKER_04]: The New York Young Republicans club.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're not a statement saying this guy should be deported.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's using the communist control act.
[SPEAKER_04]: The Communist, the call to prayer is coming from inside the ground.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're hoping Queens became a citizen.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's always white conservatives panicking when a brown guy with an accent wins something.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, oh my God, he believes in universal healthcare and doesn't eat bacon.
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no!
[SPEAKER_04]: He's from Queens.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not the foreigner.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not the foreigner.
[SPEAKER_04]: You guys are the flashback.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maga Twitter is acting like this guy's going to
[SPEAKER_04]: band bagels and have a workers uprising from a hollow cart like although he's going to destroy New York City.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, how he's going to make it affordable to live in.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can I just say something went, I'll get off this, but like, no, no, we love this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love that this guy is terrifying.
[SPEAKER_04]: to landlords.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: He should be inspiring an educational to the Democratic establishment.
[SPEAKER_04]: Amen.
[SPEAKER_04]: He should be a guiding light of morality and decency for our conservative racist friends, but I like that landlords are scared.
[SPEAKER_04]: If your net worth depends on somebody else's rent, these seventy percent of their paycheck.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You should be terrified.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they're all panicking over him being a Muslim.
[SPEAKER_04]: And a Marxist atheist.
[SPEAKER_04]: They can't like.
[SPEAKER_04]: Think a slur.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's confusing people all over the place.
[SPEAKER_07]: Do you you I know John that you've read in because I think I heard you're talking about a little bit on on your show on serious exam about the the ridiculous abundance agenda discussion that's going along among some corners of the left and there are some certain people.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I will say as recline is one of them, who are stupid about it and don't get it.
[SPEAKER_07]: They want to take the abundance agenda and abscond with it and basically use it to support the corporateist Dems.
[SPEAKER_07]: And the fact of the matter is, Mom Donnie is actually for the abundance.
[SPEAKER_07]: The abundance agenda basically says, look, we have enough.
[SPEAKER_07]: We have enough people.
[SPEAKER_07]: We have enough
[SPEAKER_07]: wrong investment.
[SPEAKER_07]: We have enough raw materials.
[SPEAKER_07]: We have enough people who work here in the United States and in this case in New York City.
[SPEAKER_07]: If we set policy accordingly, we can do things like bring housing to affordable levels like have grocery stores and you know, everywhere so we don't have three deserts.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so so I'm I'm looking for things that that Mamdeni is is supporting and some of these abundance people like as recline are kind of freaking out because they're like well, we like his ideas, but but you realize if we do his ideas it's gonna screw the corporate people on the rich people who are left who've been screwing us and you go
[SPEAKER_05]: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's screwing the right people and helping the right people and you want to claim that you're on our side, but you're standing against the people that need help.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we, in general, as a party, Democrats are supposed to be for people, you know, helping people who need help.
[SPEAKER_05]: So how exactly are you on our side again, Mr. Klein?
[SPEAKER_07]: So I, you know, the folks who are trying to split that baby with the abundance agenda and say, we like the ideas, but can we just have, you know, more money shovel to the already rich?
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm like, oh, shove it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's what they do.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the difference between, you know, liberals or progressives of the left and and Democrats and and neo liberals, you know, and and again,
[SPEAKER_04]: without getting too personal, what worked in the nineties doesn't work now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And what worked in two thousand eights, the internet as well, Republicans figured out the internet pretty damn good by twenty twenty four.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you can't call somebody a surreal law extremist and a woke gender Marxist Maoist at the same time.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're just throwing hummus at the wall and other scares people.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like on a spiritual level, this dude praised five times a day and he supports public housing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what's what's their critique that he wants
[SPEAKER_04]: He wants it to be on earth as it is in heaven, that he thinks poor people should have food.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the Jesus and the Bible, I read, says we should love his rallies, Palestinians, and Iranians equally.
[SPEAKER_04]: You'll notice that Donald Trump didn't talk about Mondani's policies, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: Trump didn't talk about the housing crisis.
[SPEAKER_04]: Didn't talk about rent control.
[SPEAKER_04]: He wouldn't do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Of course not.
[SPEAKER_04]: Immigration.
[SPEAKER_04]: He talked about Mondani's appearance.
[SPEAKER_04]: and his voice and his intelligence, which is hilarious because Donald Trump looks like a creamsicle dipped in rotting meat that was stuffed in an Iranian nuclear lab.
[SPEAKER_04]: But he launches this racial panic attack.
[SPEAKER_04]: Trump's not scared of mom Donnie because he's radical.
[SPEAKER_04]: And either Democrats, they're scared because he's winning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, he didn't have a super pack.
[SPEAKER_04]: He didn't find swing voters.
[SPEAKER_04]: He found voters all over the place.
[SPEAKER_07]: Did you see how he did it?
[SPEAKER_07]: John, like three days before the election.
[SPEAKER_07]: You saw this one, Chodi.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think, didn't you?
[SPEAKER_07]: The ad with the landers.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, there was that there was a lander.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, with lander.
[SPEAKER_05]: But there was also the fact that he walks.
[SPEAKER_05]: thirteen miles.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he walked into the island.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they're dead.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Walked walk the whole freaking island.
[SPEAKER_05]: A great stunt.
[SPEAKER_04]: And wrote a wave.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Stopped all along the way.
[SPEAKER_05]: Stopped and talked to all of the people who he would be serving.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: I, I, I, here's my best friend, Brad Lander, the my mother.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm ready to like watch their, their buddy movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: My God.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: These two guys, they, I keep waiting for the announcement of the wedding.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're together all the time.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm thinking that I'm thinking that mom Danny will actually probably see if he can pick lander to be one of his deputies and I think that would be a brilliant move because lander obviously as a public advocate and many of the other things he's done is very good and understands the people of New York and understands the the government of New York so you know he's gonna you're going to want man Danny to pick people who are like Brad Lander that would make sense yeah exactly I look I mean
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, Jodie, we've talked about this in the past.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is not to say that this guy's going to welcome there and have a magic touch.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to get his ass handed to him just like Bill Clinton did just like Barack Obama did.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to come face the face with the brutal brick wall of reality.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, none of this is to say that mom Donnie's going to have an easy time.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, of course.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to get in there.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to disappoint everybody because he's going to face the political realities of his job.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to have to compromise.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're going to call him a sellout.
[SPEAKER_04]: All the usual crap is going to happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: We know all this.
[SPEAKER_04]: But he still terrifies the establishment.
[SPEAKER_04]: and he freaks out the racist.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just just the win alone.
[SPEAKER_04]: If the guy never achieves any of his goals, he's already proved that you can win without fear, without shame, without apologizing for your last name.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, but Fugal said, really down for this man.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because of epic games that really happen when this happens.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they're not afraid of Zolran Mundon because he's dangerous.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're scared of him because he's calm.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he talks policy instead of slogans and he doesn't seem to be viable.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he won with this coalition of union folks and brown kids and working people who are tired of being stepped on and he doesn't fit any stereotype.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if a brown Muslim democratic socialist can win in New York City, then their whole idea of what America is starts the fall apart.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I hope they keep attacking him.
[SPEAKER_04]: because he is, he's not their worst nightmare.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's the overdue receipt.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And all the racist lies that we've had to deal with since nine eleven and New York also be the first ones to tell you.
[SPEAKER_04]: They were Muslims who died that day.
[SPEAKER_04]: And right wing conservative Muslims attacked our city.
[SPEAKER_04]: They were Muslims who ran into those falling buildings to save lives.
[SPEAKER_04]: The day that right wing conservative Muslims attacked us, this ties directly to Iran.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not the Muslims.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the extreme conservative fundamentalist Christians, Muslims and Jews causing all the problems.
[SPEAKER_04]: All of the moderate and liberal and even same conservative.
[SPEAKER_04]: Christian's Muslims and Jews are getting along, building families, building businesses, going to school together, having jobs together, and not getting headlines.
[SPEAKER_04]: This guy shows why I'm a patriotic New Yorker.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he looked, if you would sit back in the nineties that we'd have a black president gay marriage and legalized weed, nobody would have believed you.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't find this that preposterous.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, and he's just leading the way.
[SPEAKER_10]: You talking about how calm he is, it's the antithesis of Pete Heggseth this morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Or, or Kavanaugh, or Lindsey Graham, you know, because women are so emotional.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's really, really difficult for them to get, you know, in positions of power.
[SPEAKER_04]: I, I think the Donald Trump and Elon Musk proved that that men shouldn't be able to work together because they just, they can't handle it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, if I was in this cabinet right now, I'd be hard.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can we, we don't curse on this show, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: We're good.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, we can't curse.
[SPEAKER_07]: FCC says we can't.
[SPEAKER_07]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I wouldn't do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would never do that on your show.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like, they're calling this the twelve day war.
[SPEAKER_04]: Most people, I know, are calling this the micro penis measuring contest that lit itself on fire.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because the lies are coming up.
[SPEAKER_04]: The cease fire.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll talk about what we come back.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, no, no.
[SPEAKER_07]: With that, that is definitely one of the things that we want to talk about.
[SPEAKER_07]: And of course, how the media this morning was all over that.
[SPEAKER_07]: And they kind of missed like a whole bunch of other news because, you know, they're always about war.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's fantastic.
[SPEAKER_07]: Only I don't really think it's as fantastic for them.
[SPEAKER_07]: Money wise.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I think the numbers are starting to prove that in all kinds of ways.
[SPEAKER_07]: We got to talk about that.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll talk about the war.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll talk about the more of the media problems.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we'll have John Fugle saying, tell us pretty much everything because he knows it.
[SPEAKER_07]: And he's very smart.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you know it all.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know it all.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, John's with us.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a Thursday night here at the politics bar with Tony Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_07]: Me, Sean Smith, Pierce and John Fugle saying, get yourself another round and we'll be right back.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hang on.
[SPEAKER_09]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_06]: It is a Thursday night here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_07]: One of our favorite people is in the bar, John Fugle, saying by the way, if you've missed any of the show, you can always catch on your favorite podcast player, just type in the politics bar or hey, you can sign up and subscribe to politicsbar.com.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Then you also get to help Jody and me eat, which we kind of like to do.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, you know, it's helpful that way.
[SPEAKER_07]: Jody's like, I know.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no, we all like to eat and drink and you know, be healthy.
[SPEAKER_07]: And the median environment we are in is not healthy right now.
[SPEAKER_07]: We were talking about the war boner that the mainstream legacy media has and how they were screwing up the headset thing in this morning.
[SPEAKER_07]: And you, you were going to tell us something about this, John.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was, I mean, I could break here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, I could talk about it all day.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, did you see, did you see him attacking his own friend, his friend that he used to work with a fox?
[SPEAKER_07]: Jeff was good for her.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: certainty that all the Highland Rich Uranium was inside the Fordo Mountain or some of it because there were satellite photos that showed more than a dozen trucks there, two days in advance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you certain none of that Highland Rich Uranium was moved?
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course we're watching every single aspect but Jennifer you've been about the worst.
[SPEAKER_03]: The one who misrepresent the most intentionally, what the president says.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm familiar about the ventilation shafts on Saturday night.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in fact, I was the first to describe the B-two bombers, the refueling, the entire mission with great accuracy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I take issue with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate you acknowledge this is the first, the most successful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mission based on operational security that this department has done since you've been here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_10]: But it's not operational security.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, he screwed it up last time with a signal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Backing down, he made him.
[SPEAKER_04]: She made that little prompter monkey back down in the same minute.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, this guy folds like patio furniture.
[SPEAKER_04]: This guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, how the fact that we acknowledge the fact that she acknowledged how or that he acknowledged how good she was.
[SPEAKER_05]: And this is right after he's beating up on her.
[SPEAKER_05]: Somebody who used to know will work for him.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, it is how any part of this is you part of this surprise of you none of it none of it.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's what when we met again some manly job.
[SPEAKER_07]: We had Malcolm Manson here.
[SPEAKER_07]: Was it Monday?
[SPEAKER_10]: Jody was Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_10]: Was it Wednesday?
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_10]: I forget.
[SPEAKER_07]: Monday or Tuesday when we had him in here and we were and we were talking about this and he said, ask Malcolm said, is this space that just all for shows just like a really bad crappy TV program?
[SPEAKER_07]: And Malcolm was like, yeah, this this whole arena, this is all been for show on all different sides.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I don't know how you could look at that interaction between Kegbreath and Jennifer Griffin and not see that he's trying to make it a show.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't see, I don't see how you can look at that.
[SPEAKER_07]: You can hear that and go, but he's serious.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, but he's not unique in that way.
[SPEAKER_04]: We know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, you put a Republican in front of a camera.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not going to try to tell the truth and make things better.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're going to try to get, they're going to try to get a clip to air on Fox News or Newsmax that night.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's all it's about.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they'll beat up on whomever because they know they know that nuance and information and truth.
[SPEAKER_04]: Grandma's gonna drool on the clicker.
[SPEAKER_04]: You gotta have, you gotta have a hate.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what these people tune in for.
[SPEAKER_04]: So every US intelligence official, even Trump's own, said that Iran wasn't building a bomb, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Tell us he gathered.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who somehow got decided it would be not good to cosplay Condolese or Rice.
[SPEAKER_04]: She publicly testified around wasn't building a bomb, then had to flip back and she accused him of nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ms.
[SPEAKER_04]: Griffin in this exchange.
[SPEAKER_04]: She just asked him a question because Donald Trump said, hey, we're going to bomb you and then the satellite showed, oh, they're moving a lot of stuff out of there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look at that.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a whole fleet of keys.
[SPEAKER_04]: driving around, trucks were seen.
[SPEAKER_04]: These bunkers were cleaned out, vacuumed, and phobreeze.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: For this came down.
[SPEAKER_04]: So this really does like government by astrology, except instead of astrology, it's, it's, it's Trump's gut.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's all, that's all they reject intelligence.
[SPEAKER_04]: and go by Trump's gut, because it's got told him, or as God knew, same gut that said, COVID would disappear by Easter, same gut that said, but this infected might be medicinal if you inject it, the same gut that said tariffs lower prices.
[SPEAKER_04]: At this point, guys, we should assume that Trump's gut is actually a second-dumber brain that lives in his colon.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's quite a go from there.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: from a total recall.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, they've caught Jody.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: You win the nerds prize.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, you know, John, we do have a saying around here that Jody is right.
[SPEAKER_07]: And generally, I think it works pretty generally, but true for me.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's why I'm here.
[SPEAKER_07]: Good.
[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, it's one of those things.
[SPEAKER_07]: We, we look at this.
[SPEAKER_07]: We see it all as a as a performative thing as a but
[SPEAKER_07]: We're also mad.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not just media.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, Jody was frustrated earlier today.
[SPEAKER_07]: You were telling me that your internet is not that you haven't started again.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I'll go ahead.
[SPEAKER_10]: You could say if you were, you could tell John, if you want, because you, I mean, no, we've been, it started with me and then it moved to Lonnie like a virus almost, but it's not that my, my earthling email, because I'm that old, can send, but nobody's getting it.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then Lonnie's won't even send, and we're on two different computers, two different ages of computers.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's using a POP.
[SPEAKER_10]: set up and I'm using an IMAP set up plus his iPhone won't do it, but it'll work if we've sent on to the web.
[SPEAKER_10]: So it's an earthling issue that I'm going to have to deal with for like two and a half hours after I'm done with this and it's really pissing me off.
[SPEAKER_07]: And she's called.
[SPEAKER_07]: She's called them before and of course they say it's not our problem.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's it's it's it's like calling out it's like calling on our colleagues who are in the news media who when you call them out and you're like there are all these other stories going on Supreme Court stuff there's a lot of stuff with that and not just the planned parenthood stuff there's the stuff about the big ugly bill Russ Vaughn still trying to push through the decision there's the immigration stuff that there is so much news to cover and this morning many of our colleagues were going war it's fantastic and you're like oh my god
[SPEAKER_04]: They're still working on nineties ratings paradigms.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and rat when they should be doing what they didn't do the last time there was a by the way, we haven't legally declared war since nineteen forty one.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, they should be calling out the lies, which they didn't do the last time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Again, the ceasefire was fake.
[SPEAKER_04]: The lie that Iran's nuclear program was obliterated.
[SPEAKER_04]: No way.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to go back and do this again in three months because all three sides benefited from this pageant Netanyahu and the Ayatollas and Trump all go back to their base and said, look at me, I won and there's nothing actually changed and Iran's going to restart this program up again.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you can look for a lot of sequels to this.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're going to keep milking this thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: They lied that it wasn't about regime change.
[SPEAKER_04]: I headset the Rubio votes at that and Trump went on filled social and totally said it was.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this is mission accomplished with like worse grammar and a pair of depends instead of a flight suit.
[SPEAKER_04]: They lied about the intelligence and the biggest lie of all that undoing Obama's nuclear deal made us safer.
[SPEAKER_04]: The media barely talks about this.
[SPEAKER_04]: We had a verifiable deal with a run out.
[SPEAKER_04]: It worked.
[SPEAKER_04]: Pentagon said it worked.
[SPEAKER_04]: We knew where the uranium was and then Trump ripped it up like a cat on meth.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now we're bombing the same sites that were under control and regulated and unfunded.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if Obama's field is still in place, we have inspections monitoring verification uranium under lock and key instead.
[SPEAKER_04]: No clear objective.
[SPEAKER_04]: No congressional approval.
[SPEAKER_04]: None of our allies backing this.
[SPEAKER_04]: No proof of success.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they can't stop lying.
[SPEAKER_10]: And they're also saying that if we don't support this, we're not supporting the pilots and the refueling people.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, they just blusher's third term again, though, if you question the lawmakers, you don't care about the troops.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is exactly what the blusher did.
[SPEAKER_04]: Donald Trump can't stop proving he's the same as all of them.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's really great for all those pro-Arak War guys who've pretended to be anti-war the past few months, being so furious that Trump has dropped the act that is no longer pretending to be anti-war.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they've never been anti-war.
[SPEAKER_04]: They pray, they love Putin waging war on smaller defense listings.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is just what they do.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, you're absolutely right.
[SPEAKER_07]: And this goes along with my contention, John, that not only are colleagues in the media for not doing their job, just totally blowing it out there, but it's going to start biting a lot more of the folks in the legacy mainstream media because
[SPEAKER_07]: The case used to be that maybe they could beat the war drums, and there really wasn't an alternative out there.
[SPEAKER_07]: But there is a whole lot of alternative media out there.
[SPEAKER_07]: Some of it, like here at the politics bar, is pretty good.
[SPEAKER_07]: We mentioned this in the first hour.
[SPEAKER_07]: Greg Sargent, I think you know him.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think he's been on your show.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, fantastic journalist.
[SPEAKER_07]: He pointed this out earlier today.
[SPEAKER_07]: A new Quinnipiac poll finds support for a path to legalization for most undocumented immigrants.
[SPEAKER_04]: going to be a poll has that at sixty four percent only thirty one percent of Americans that's a fourteen point swing John Ronald Reagan ran on at the state in nineteen eighty go go watch the Reagan Bush debates of nineteen eighty they're both competing to see you can be more kind and documented workers because they knew it was good for economics and guys I got a split on so sorry that's okay I just want to remind you all about this less than two months after taco
[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Two weeks, two weeks after the world's richest man called him a pet of a file, one week after his pathetic failed military parade and the no kings protest, twenty four hours after he was finally ordered to free Mammoth Khalil.
[SPEAKER_04]: He bombs Iran and can't stop lying about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's how scared they are.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: John, thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right back on the train safe.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, remember folks, you can catch John Fugelsang's sub stack anywhere and you can catch him weeknights on serious exam.
[SPEAKER_07]: John, thank you very much, man.
[SPEAKER_07]: Good evening.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, he's good to see John.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm glad that we were able to work out his schedule today.
[SPEAKER_10]: So
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, yeah, you know, anytime that any of our friends can come into the bar, we always try to, you know, shift things around a little bit, shift the schedule and a calendar around because, you know, it's a bar.
[SPEAKER_07]: People come and go.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's how it works.
[SPEAKER_07]: I am, I am really glad by the way that David Jolly is going to be coming in in a couple of weeks because I've been, all of this discussion about mom Danny and Democrats doing things in a different way.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, yes, I've mentioned it before.
[SPEAKER_07]: She is my friend, and you know, I like Kat.
[SPEAKER_07]: I would say a lot as a person, as a journalist, and also as a candidate, which, you know, she's in Illinois.
[SPEAKER_07]: She's doing fantastic.
[SPEAKER_07]: In fact, she has a brand new shirt.
[SPEAKER_07]: It says it's I've seen her wear this because she got like I think they think I like just a few of them made early and it says what if we didn't suck but it's in rainbow colors.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, no, it's a great night.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and so she so she has that now up which you know it's gear yes, whatever, but I I'm a sucker for good gear and so I've and I got one of those because yeah, but
[SPEAKER_07]: the phrase keeps coming back to me because because of the fact that she's doing things differently in Illinois in her campaign.
[SPEAKER_07]: She's doing so much public service stuff.
[SPEAKER_07]: David Jolly, who, if you've seen if you go and look on YouTube and things, he's doing a lot of interviews with local Florida media, which is what he should do.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's still got a couple of things that he's doing on national media, but he's concentrating on Florida, which he should.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right, he's running for Florida governor.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I've been hearing some people being, well, I haven't seen a whole lot of them.
[SPEAKER_07]: You haven't seen a whole lot of them because you ain't in Florida.
[SPEAKER_07]: If you ain't in Florida, you're right.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's he's concentrating.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's doing the best things for Florida.
[SPEAKER_07]: Abigail Spanberg, I'm here in the Virginia part of the DC Metro area.
[SPEAKER_07]: She's now doing a bit more outreach.
[SPEAKER_07]: These kinds of things.
[SPEAKER_07]: Mallory McMarrow, she's running for Senate.
[SPEAKER_07]: And she's doing a beer hall tour.
[SPEAKER_07]: So if this bar, if we had a an affiliate that was actually, you know, where she is, we'd probably ask her to come to the bar too.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_07]: And maybe we should just, you know, see if she'd do it anyway.
[SPEAKER_07]: But everybody is doing something different.
[SPEAKER_07]: Mom Danny walked the length of the, the, the, the amount of, of Manhattan.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm like, that's the way to do it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Take care of the people who you're supposed to take care of, because that's what so many of us are screaming and hollering about is the people who we've elected
[SPEAKER_07]: can't seem to do their damn jobs of taking care of the people that they're supposed to represent the people who are in the mainstream media can't seem to do that got damn jobs of even looking at the news all the god john could list them off just you rapid fire so fast and I am
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm pleased that a lot more people are waking up and I'm pleased to see there was a social media post somebody mentioned it and then I saw Joe Walsh kind of mentioned but somebody said I can't believe the Democratic Party now goes all the way from from Joe Walsh to Zaron mom Danny.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's the point.
[SPEAKER_07]: That was exactly what Joe Walsett.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's like, he said, that's the point and I'm proud to be a Democrat because I'm in a party that has everybody like that and we're just focusing on taking care of the people around us.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know you're giving me this quizzical look like isn't that how it's supposed to be and what's again?
[SPEAKER_07]: Jody is right because yes, that's exactly how things are supposed to be.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean we're supposed to be a big tent.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like okay for instance, Joe Walsh would not win in Manhattan.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no Joe Walsh would not win in Manhattan.
[SPEAKER_10]: And and Mem Downey would not win in Iowa.
[SPEAKER_10]: So this is the difference between these things.
[SPEAKER_07]: right, but they especially the national media doesn't like that because every candidate when they do something different, a lot of times the national media and and you know, look, Ted Genoese who we had in here first week, a long time journal, so mind, it's always but it's been a bugaboo of Ted's for ages that so much of the national media parachutes in.
[SPEAKER_07]: They drop people in instead of
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, basically hiring somebody who's in the local market.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, just having the local local people come in and and hey, I want to interview the NBC affiliate or the CBS affiliate.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's is the local, they're going to know the local situation better than some.
[SPEAKER_07]: But that's part of the reason that a lot of the national people don't necessarily like it is because they come in and they have to get the lay of the land and they have to set things up differently.
[SPEAKER_07]: So they like it when all the candidates are exactly the same in every place, which is stupid because every place is different.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm like, hell yeah, Democrats seem to be finally getting this.
[SPEAKER_07]: That the way to do this is let's take care of the folks at the local level.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then we'll get together in a Democratic house in a Democratic Senate.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll get a Democratic president in there.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then we can actually do stuff next time.
[SPEAKER_07]: We got to make sure that we do stuff.
[SPEAKER_07]: Don't sit around and talk about it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Do it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Take action.
[SPEAKER_07]: Call me crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Get things done.
[SPEAKER_10]: Get crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know.
[SPEAKER_10]: You said to call you that so.
[SPEAKER_07]: You can call me crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: You just can't, you know, don't forget to call me for dinner, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_07]: Don't forget to call me for last call either, which we still have one more round here at the politics bar on a Thursday night.
[SPEAKER_07]: Get your drink refreshed and then you can come back and hang out with me and Jody until we close the bar down Thursday night at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you for being with us.
[SPEAKER_07]: We got some more coming hang on.
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[SPEAKER_07]: to the end of a nice thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: I get a few days off.
[SPEAKER_07]: I can do some things.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm kind of in that jazzed up mode.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's always nice to, you know, have a couple of days off.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's nice to just kind of relax and be able to somewhat turn away from the news.
[SPEAKER_07]: Because I, you know, this is nothing like when you produced for Steph, when I produce for Steph, when I produce for Randy, we have to sit there and have a different eye and be really focused on every little thing that comes down from the news.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's it's difficult standing in the center of the fire hose of news and just having it up your ass and you have to keep going back to it every single time.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so I'm really.
[SPEAKER_07]: When you get a day off, you're just like, you know what, I don't know about you, but I mostly turn to the news out.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, I do.
[SPEAKER_07]: Go listen to music and you know, any albums by the way coming out that you're looking forward to.
[SPEAKER_10]: I know.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, the Streisand one for sure.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, that's good.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's good.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it drops.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, the last record I bought was a dolly part and rock record.
[SPEAKER_07]: So that was good.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's a new video out that Motley crew.
[SPEAKER_07]: She and Motley created.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's going to be on the new crew album that's coming out.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're doing kind of a best of, but pumping them up sometimes with some of the duets and things.
[SPEAKER_10]: That should be good.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and it's, and it's the, the video is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_07]: I might, I might put that on socials later, too, for those people haven't seen it, because I, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm a huge crew fan.
[SPEAKER_07]: Some people don't, I, I have my issues at times with things that Tommy Lee has done in the past, but he did do that reality TV show where he was at the University of Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I know one of our people who were involved with that, and they actually said,
[SPEAKER_07]: He's not a bad guy.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's not.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's not.
[SPEAKER_10]: I've met him a couple of times.
[SPEAKER_10]: And my friend, John Corabi was the singer that replaced Vince for a minute.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, there have, you know, I met Tommy and Vince a couple of times.
[SPEAKER_10]: I've never met Mick or, or Nikki, but
[SPEAKER_07]: Look, when you meet a lot of these rockers, basically a deaf leopard, I know gently a few of those people.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know Clifshack did as too, because of one of my radio mentors was really good in the band.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know a number of people in country music bands.
[SPEAKER_07]: I saved Martina my bride's daughter from getting her finger chopped off on.
[SPEAKER_10]: That was very nice of you.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, it's what you do.
[SPEAKER_07]: There was a festival.
[SPEAKER_07]: What used to be called the the windmill festival is that this place, this farm that had a ton of windmills.
[SPEAKER_07]: The guy who owned it just had gotten into getting windmills.
[SPEAKER_07]: So every year they did like a big rock festival made a big big country festival back in the day.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I was out there for the country festival.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm like, OK, cool, whatever, hang an out in the media area and over by the media area in front of the house.
[SPEAKER_07]: Because remember, this is a big farm area.
[SPEAKER_07]: The guy's house is here and set up for a little stage.
[SPEAKER_07]: So by his house, he has a teeter tater.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's got the two posts on the side.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's got the metal pole through the center of the post at the top.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then it's got the teeter tater part in the middle.
[SPEAKER_07]: But the post in the middle had actually slid out just a tiny little bit.
[SPEAKER_07]: So there was a small gap between the post, the wood post and the metal crossbar post.
[SPEAKER_07]: And inevitably, Martina might ride three-year-old daughter because three-year-olds do this.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's what they do.
[SPEAKER_07]: She went over and she was playing on it.
[SPEAKER_07]: She was like, oh, but she was playing so much on top of it, just kind of playing around it.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then she decided that she was going to stick her finger in that gap and then lean on the ball.
[SPEAKER_07]: And if no one had caught her, her own weight would have cut her own finger off.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, it just hurts to think about.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: I saw her in the action of doing that when it goes over and I pick up the bar and she's, you know, not understanding and I just like, hang on here.
[SPEAKER_07]: Let me take this out and I said, oh, well, this is this is broken here.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I do the manly man thing and I shove the cross bar through the middle and I'm like, okay, now you can play on it.
[SPEAKER_07]: You need somebody to play with, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: So sure.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I, you know, I did the other side of the theater, Tata.
[SPEAKER_07]: I had no idea who's daughter.
[SPEAKER_07]: Was it was some random sort of girl?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Just just random whatever.
[SPEAKER_07]: And this, this woman eventually comes over and after maybe five minutes or whatever.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's like, oh, you know, oh, I'm, she was looking for this little girl.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know, there you are.
[SPEAKER_07]: And oh, thank you, sir, for watching out for her.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I said, sure, she almost cut off her finger.
[SPEAKER_07]: Moments says, what?
[SPEAKER_07]: So I explain what went on.
[SPEAKER_07]: And she's like, just stay here.
[SPEAKER_07]: She says, I have a reward for you.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was like, reward.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm like, oh, let's just take care of a kid.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I don't want some kid to go around with, you know, cutting off their own finger.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're just, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I was like, OK, fine.
[SPEAKER_07]: I said, I'm just one of the radio people here.
[SPEAKER_07]: Just doing my thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: And she says, oh, then this is definitely going to be good for you.
[SPEAKER_07]: OK, sure.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm standing there.
[SPEAKER_07]: About five minutes later, she comes back with these VIP passes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_07]: And she says, this is for the meet and greet.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I want you to go last, so then you can actually talk to her.
[SPEAKER_07]: And maybe get her on tape and whatever.
[SPEAKER_07]: And you know, for your station.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I was like,
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, so I got to meet Martina McBride and talk to her and hang out with her.
[SPEAKER_07]: Got her.
[SPEAKER_07]: Got a thanks from her being like, thank you for, you know, making sure my daughter has all her fingers.
[SPEAKER_07]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm like, you know, that's just what you do.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, you see a kid doing that and you're like, hey, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, you know, that's
[SPEAKER_07]: Look, you got to keep an eye out for people.
[SPEAKER_07]: You got to keep an eye out for everybody, wherever you at.
[SPEAKER_07]: That is the kind of thing that we do.
[SPEAKER_07]: Here's the politics bar and just in general, whether you happen to be a liberal or a progressive or a good centrist or a, you know, sane Republican, sane conservative who is against Trump.
[SPEAKER_07]: Look, good people of all kinds do that kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's just what we do.
[SPEAKER_07]: I am consistently amazed at what they do in Magaland.
[SPEAKER_07]: I wish some of those people would be less about hurting people and more about helping people.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, wouldn't that be nice?
[SPEAKER_07]: It would be.
[SPEAKER_07]: Anyway, so I like I was saying, I like working in McBride.
[SPEAKER_07]: She hasn't had an album in ages, but there's some new albums out there that I'm looking forward to on our Fourth of July break, taking a look at.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I do think I'm going to consider that New Sabrina Carpenter album because it's kind of fun.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's pop music.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's kind of cheeky.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's pop music.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not supposed to be something where you sit there and go, this is going to be for an eternity.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's pop music in your dealings with stuff in LA.
[SPEAKER_07]: Have you met a number of pop musicians at all?
[SPEAKER_07]: Are there any that you remember that you've, you know, met or that are like new?
[SPEAKER_07]: No, I mean all along the way.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like you ever run into like anybody from insane or no.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you know, it's, it's, that's way too big.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's out of my league, man, those guys are huge.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's, you know, I've, I've had, I had some of those strange things to where, um, so it was a cold play.
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, this was when they were first starting to come up.
[SPEAKER_07]: And the hard rock station where I was down stairs with classic rock station where I was up there.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I just I'm coming down the stairs one day and I'm pop the door between us to go to the front desk and these guys just are kind of barreling towards me.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I was like, oh, sorry, you'll excuse me.
[SPEAKER_07]: Then I look and I recognize them, like, hey, hey, whatever.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I go right in and talk to the guys.
[SPEAKER_07]: They were in a break on the hard rock station and blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, it's fine.
[SPEAKER_07]: I get home from work that day.
[SPEAKER_07]: And my wife just like, oh, how was your day?
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, I call play was in the studio.
[SPEAKER_07]: She's like, what?
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, yeah, you've got a concert tonight.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no tickets today, but she's like, wait a minute, you met them.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I just went downstairs and threw the door.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hi.
[SPEAKER_07]: So what did you say?
[SPEAKER_07]: Hi.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I mean, years ago, there was a band called Lockup.
[SPEAKER_10]: Brian Grillo was a singer and a little guitar player by the name of Tommy Morello.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was in the band and I met them in Denver.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, no way.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, no way.
[SPEAKER_10]: Eighteen, eighteen, eighteen, eighteen, eighteen, eighteen, eighteen, nine, before I moved home.
[SPEAKER_10]: they were at this club and they you know the club that I used to go to is all cover bands in general so any any original music unless it was somebody we'd heard of people kind of ignored them and this band was just so amazing I was just like floored by this band right
[SPEAKER_10]: And I met the guys and they were very very nice.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then they came to Los Angeles and I was here and I saw them at this very small nightclub out here that no longer exists.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I said, look, I'm working for this manager.
[SPEAKER_10]: Do you guys have a manager?
[SPEAKER_10]: Do you have record deal here?
[SPEAKER_10]: And they're like, no.
[SPEAKER_10]: And so they met with my boss and everything.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, blah, blah, blah, blah, that band broke up and obviously Tommy started rage against them.
[SPEAKER_10]: The machine after that and Brian started another band I forget what it's called.
[SPEAKER_10]: And so years later, I'm in line to get into what I'm actually, I could jump line because I need to people.
[SPEAKER_10]: But anyway, there's just line out the door at this club that my sister and I used to go to and we're kind of walking to the right of the line and who is like three people down waiting to get into the nightclub is Tommy Morello.
[SPEAKER_10]: And rage was starting to be super famous.
[SPEAKER_10]: They were famous, but they weren't like they are now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I stopped, and I go, Tom Morello, and he goes, Jody, hi.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I'm like, because it had been at least six or seven years since I had seen him.
[SPEAKER_10]: And the people that knew who he was were shocked, and he gave me a hug.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I'm like, oh my God, I love your band and all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_10]: So, I mean, if you ever get a chance to meet Tommy Morello, he's a deer.
[SPEAKER_07]: he's a really good to know that that's true because I've heard he's a really good guy that's that's the kind of thing where when you've been in the business this long you know a number of people and you see them in places and people go out they go out to eat they go to the grocery store they get gas they you know go to the hardware store whatever everybody's got things to do they got lives and
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's just kind of fun how some people are oh my god you know it's like kind of yeah I reach out to somebody and find out hey how you doing and yet it's it is very normal in some ways but I don't think it'll ever get a hundred percent normal but when you've been doing media thirty some years or in your case literally since you need a row you know all kinds of people either you know them
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, kind of, you work together and you know some of the same people and you lend a hand, you help out.
[SPEAKER_07]: If they have something you need, Tom Richmond, fairly famous cartoonist, one of the Mad Gang of Fools as it were.
[SPEAKER_07]: Basically, Mad's, one of Mad's last big cartoonists, Mad magazine.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know Tom Richmond for twenty, five, almost twenty, five years.
[SPEAKER_07]: So it's just, you know,
[SPEAKER_07]: So it's Tom.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's got a full-size real-life Batman suit.
[SPEAKER_07]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's Murray.
[SPEAKER_07]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's looking.
[SPEAKER_07]: So these are the kinds of people that you go, oh, you just, you know these, really?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you run around with them a little bit, you know the people.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that's, it's what you do.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it doesn't matter how big or how unknown somebody is.
[SPEAKER_07]: You help good folks out because that's what we should do.
[SPEAKER_07]: How is?
[SPEAKER_07]: Call me crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's just kind of the way I like to do things.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's helping good folks out.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hopefully we've got, we've got a line out to a couple of people tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_07]: Some of the legal contacts we know.
[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe Chris Geidner, maybe we see we get him.
[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe Ellen is Ellie Mestall, possibly.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll get somebody in here because we know Supreme Court is going to be dropping a whole bunch of garbage tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Big cases.
[SPEAKER_07]: And of course we are tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're going to have Karen and Anita in to finish off the week with us because
[SPEAKER_07]: I guarantee they've been calling into staff show and hollering a little bit about that.
[SPEAKER_07]: I guarantee they're probably going to be hollering about those cases tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm sure they will.
[SPEAKER_07]: If you were going to be hollering about them, if you're worried about it, don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Remember, Plessy was a thing at one time and we beat that down.
[SPEAKER_07]: They will make some bad decisions and part of it is they want you to be angry tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_07]: So don't be angry.
[SPEAKER_07]: Chill out, stay informed, get your news on tap for the politics bar.com and then tomorrow night you and me and everybody here in the bar will all rejoin.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll all sit together.
[SPEAKER_07]: Have a drink and chill out about it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Amen.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Folks, get yourself home safe.
[SPEAKER_07]: Do not drink and drive at any point ever time.
[SPEAKER_07]: And remember, we are going to have some more great guest Karen and Anita coming in.
[SPEAKER_07]: Charlie Pierce next week.
[SPEAKER_07]: Bob Cesca as well.
[SPEAKER_07]: And of course, you will be here tomorrow too.
[SPEAKER_07]: So
[SPEAKER_07]: Come back.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll see you tomorrow night right here at the Palm Explorer.