WEBVTT 00:05.091 --> 00:13.939 [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Toolshed, a podcast covering all levels of professional baseball to help give you the edge in your dynasty leagues. 00:14.179 --> 00:23.848 [SPEAKER_00]: From the MLB draft, all the way to the show, the Toolshed podcast has you covered with rankings, player analysis, and in-depth discussion. 00:24.349 --> 00:27.331 [SPEAKER_00]: And now, here's your host, Eric Cross. 00:30.664 --> 00:34.425 [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome into another episode of the tool shed podcast brought to you by Rotobauer. 00:34.905 --> 00:36.265 [SPEAKER_01]: This is episode three ninety seven. 00:36.365 --> 00:37.186 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for joining me. 00:37.486 --> 00:38.626 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host Eric Cross. 00:39.146 --> 00:44.067 [SPEAKER_01]: You can find me on Twitter at Eric Cross MLB and the show is at tool shed pod. 00:44.707 --> 00:48.368 [SPEAKER_01]: I have a great guest in the tool shed with me this week. 00:48.868 --> 00:56.070 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a prospect writer over at the dynasty dugout and host of the promotion, a prospect promotion and set the podcast use me. 00:56.730 --> 00:57.670 [SPEAKER_01]: Big brewers fan. 00:57.690 --> 00:59.991 [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll get a lot of brewers talking this episode as well. 01:01.011 --> 01:04.792 [SPEAKER_01]: Zach, back at upper underscore back on Twitter. 01:05.252 --> 01:05.972 [SPEAKER_01]: Back how you doing, bud? 01:06.573 --> 01:07.513 [SPEAKER_03]: I am doing great. 01:07.793 --> 01:09.333 [SPEAKER_03]: It's really nice to talk to you again. 01:10.033 --> 01:11.094 [SPEAKER_01]: Good to talk to you, too, man. 01:11.214 --> 01:11.614 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been great. 01:11.634 --> 01:14.815 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've been hanging out last couple of years out in Arizona. 01:14.875 --> 01:17.735 [SPEAKER_01]: Got a little Airbnb action going last year. 01:17.755 --> 01:22.477 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, with you and Scully, me and Cleg went to a ton of games last year. 01:22.497 --> 01:23.557 [SPEAKER_01]: Always a good time. 01:24.097 --> 01:27.578 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a great setup out there to have the floor within one house and I'll go into ball games. 01:28.198 --> 01:51.228 [SPEAKER_01]: I was great because we were close to the hotel where first pitch conference was at and then kind of writing the middle everything all the ball parks you know within forty minutes or so from us couple that are close by obviously there's the three on the east side three on the west side so we got to a ton of games last year saw ton of players always find going out there and we're about what four or four and a half months from doing it again so 01:52.303 --> 01:53.303 [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be here before we know it. 01:53.643 --> 01:57.605 [SPEAKER_01]: But until then, we've got a lot of fun baseball to talk about today. 01:58.225 --> 02:04.387 [SPEAKER_01]: Talk some trending young MLB guys, but more of a prospect heavy show. 02:04.427 --> 02:12.590 [SPEAKER_01]: Got a couple of prospect promotions, couple of live looks that I saw from last week in Toronto, all the interrent of Toronto system. 02:13.010 --> 02:17.672 [SPEAKER_01]: I should say I didn't go to Canada for live looks and actually never been to Canada, fun fact. 02:18.530 --> 02:25.157 [SPEAKER_01]: Now we'll do a lot of Brewers talk to run up the show as Beck is a Brewers fan and it's a very fun farm system. 02:25.217 --> 02:27.099 [SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of interesting names talk about. 02:27.419 --> 02:28.720 [SPEAKER_01]: Prog it into all of that though. 02:29.241 --> 02:30.342 [SPEAKER_01]: The usual housekeeping. 02:30.682 --> 02:33.024 [SPEAKER_01]: If you enjoyed this podcast, please rate and review. 02:33.585 --> 02:39.771 [SPEAKER_01]: You can find all of my content on Rotobollar or over on my Patreon, which is toolshedfansc.com. 02:39.851 --> 02:41.293 [SPEAKER_01]: Also linked in my Twitter bio. 02:42.189 --> 02:55.594 [SPEAKER_01]: and make sure you check 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once you guys plug the show and let the good people know what you guys talk about over there. 03:32.842 --> 03:33.924 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I appreciate it. 03:34.004 --> 03:36.167 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you did a pretty good job of plugging my stuff up front. 03:36.187 --> 03:37.008 [SPEAKER_03]: So I appreciate that. 03:37.129 --> 03:42.256 [SPEAKER_03]: But as you mentioned, spend a lot of time with you Chris and Scully. 03:42.336 --> 03:43.698 [SPEAKER_03]: Scully is my best friend from college. 03:43.738 --> 03:47.183 [SPEAKER_03]: He's traveled with me to the Arizona fall league for the last four years. 03:47.804 --> 03:52.025 [SPEAKER_03]: real big brain ball, no, or, and I finally talked about starting a podcast. 03:52.065 --> 03:54.046 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's a pretty cool concept. 03:54.086 --> 04:01.109 [SPEAKER_03]: We just cover all of the promotions across every level from the complexes to major league baseball every week. 04:01.169 --> 04:04.530 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's a little bit of a round up on notable players who are moving levels. 04:05.030 --> 04:07.251 [SPEAKER_03]: Our episodes lately have been running like seventy five minutes. 04:07.531 --> 04:08.931 [SPEAKER_03]: There's some fun banter up front. 04:08.991 --> 04:11.092 [SPEAKER_03]: We do a segment called, did you see this? 04:11.292 --> 04:14.093 [SPEAKER_03]: And it was just the coolest stuff we saw on the sport over the last week. 04:14.733 --> 04:17.594 [SPEAKER_03]: And we do sort of off the wall prospect comes. 04:17.834 --> 04:29.779 [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know if you're familiar with those calendars that have a holiday for every day of the year, but every day that we record, we sit down and whatever the national, you know, insert here holiday is we do a prospect come for that. 04:30.359 --> 04:37.982 [SPEAKER_03]: So last week or the last episode we did, Scully went with national mascot day and chose George Wolko just because he loves the cannon ballers. 04:40.225 --> 04:40.686 [SPEAKER_03]: mascot. 04:41.506 --> 04:48.673 [SPEAKER_03]: And I went with Rupert and had a whole kind of aside about dirty soda and Mormonism and next month's EDA. 04:48.733 --> 04:50.655 [SPEAKER_03]: So we're having a ton of fun. 04:50.695 --> 04:51.656 [SPEAKER_03]: We're seven episodes in. 04:51.676 --> 04:52.476 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we're getting better. 04:52.917 --> 04:55.339 [SPEAKER_03]: It is called the prospect promotion incentive. 04:55.359 --> 05:01.024 [SPEAKER_03]: You can find it on Spotify or Apple Music by searching either prospect promotion incentive or PPI. 05:03.045 --> 05:05.866 [SPEAKER_01]: definitely go give that a follow and check out the show. 05:06.506 --> 05:11.467 [SPEAKER_01]: Great work, you know, obviously getting to know back in Scully the last couple of years has been great. 05:11.748 --> 05:12.748 [SPEAKER_01]: Great, great set about there. 05:12.788 --> 05:16.309 [SPEAKER_01]: So definitely check that out and all of Beck's work over on DIC. 05:16.429 --> 05:21.550 [SPEAKER_01]: Go and I pretty sure back does the most thorough top or hundred right up. 05:21.610 --> 05:22.971 [SPEAKER_01]: You can find out there. 05:22.991 --> 05:30.753 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think you have it pinned still pinned on your Twitter profile right now, but how many pages was your top or hundred? 05:31.465 --> 05:31.966 [SPEAKER_01]: this year. 05:31.986 --> 05:40.296 [SPEAKER_03]: It ended up being a hundred and eighty seven pages long, so typically I sit down and start writing when we're in the AFL and then I publish in March. 05:40.536 --> 05:46.123 [SPEAKER_03]: I would like to get it out a little bit sooner, but you know, we're looking at like eighty thousand words or a full length novel. 05:46.883 --> 05:47.744 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 05:48.184 --> 05:49.666 [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, it got great reception. 05:49.686 --> 05:53.289 [SPEAKER_03]: I put it out every year for free because it's just a passion project of mine. 05:53.309 --> 06:04.341 [SPEAKER_03]: I would love to be sitting here twenty years from now and have, you know, essentially twenty books that I've written that I can look back on sort of like an encyclopedic knowledge of where baseball was at the minor league level at that time. 06:05.128 --> 06:06.148 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely. 06:06.168 --> 06:11.131 [SPEAKER_01]: And I can test it out because there was times when I was sitting at the dining room table and you were over on the couch. 06:11.651 --> 06:13.492 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was writing something, you were writing something. 06:13.552 --> 06:15.232 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was ten, thirty at night. 06:15.632 --> 06:16.853 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, I can definitely test that. 06:16.893 --> 06:19.234 [SPEAKER_01]: He was working on it back in October at that point in time. 06:19.254 --> 06:21.235 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, great stuff there. 06:21.695 --> 06:25.697 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just pulled up the national holidays for today, just because I was curious. 06:26.657 --> 06:29.180 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the two most prominent ones here. 06:29.200 --> 06:30.862 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a national kissing day. 06:30.882 --> 06:32.263 [SPEAKER_01]: That's an interesting one. 06:32.804 --> 06:34.746 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's also a national onion ring day. 06:34.846 --> 06:37.048 [SPEAKER_01]: So, that's a pretty fun one. 06:38.452 --> 06:40.833 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure nothing about who I would pick for those. 06:40.893 --> 06:45.053 [SPEAKER_03]: I think my gut instinct on kissing would just be whatever prospect. 06:45.093 --> 06:48.554 [SPEAKER_03]: I think is the most handsome, which might require further research. 06:49.894 --> 06:50.635 [SPEAKER_03]: And onion rings. 06:50.935 --> 06:56.476 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why my brain immediately went to Moiseis ballasteros, but I would have to back into the reason I don't. 06:57.456 --> 06:57.996 [SPEAKER_01]: I can see it. 06:58.076 --> 06:58.616 [SPEAKER_01]: I like that. 06:58.636 --> 07:00.397 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, onion rings are good, man. 07:00.477 --> 07:00.997 [SPEAKER_01]: I love me. 07:01.057 --> 07:01.757 [SPEAKER_01]: Good onion rings. 07:01.997 --> 07:02.337 [SPEAKER_01]: Big fan. 07:03.380 --> 07:23.578 [SPEAKER_01]: as am I all right let's get over to some baseball talk here as obviously what we're here for starting off with some intriguing young names and the major leagues that are you know shooting up rankings and joining the elite as we speak junior camonero and Nick Kurts sort of camonero here is every day every other day 07:24.058 --> 07:25.259 [SPEAKER_01]: Cameron, I was going yard. 07:25.279 --> 07:31.781 [SPEAKER_01]: He's at nineteen home runs in a two sixty five three ten five twenty three slash line so far this season. 07:31.801 --> 07:46.607 [SPEAKER_01]: He's only twenty one years old and if someone asked me the other day after I posted the video of his nineteen home run, you know, how many twenty one year olds have ever had a forty home run season in the major leagues. 07:46.627 --> 07:49.728 [SPEAKER_01]: I had to look it up on fan graphs and there was only three. 07:50.248 --> 07:51.369 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a Cunia in twenty 07:52.449 --> 07:57.133 [SPEAKER_01]: Eddie Matthew in nineteen fifty three and Mel Ott in nineteen twenty nine. 07:57.233 --> 08:03.718 [SPEAKER_01]: So came in as a shot to be the fourth obviously one of the most powerful young bats in baseball. 08:03.738 --> 08:16.668 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean at this point you know obviously Joe Ram is the you know been the crown jewel this spot for the last half decade or even longer, but he's also thirty two I want to say now and Cameron knows right twenty one. 08:16.728 --> 08:20.731 [SPEAKER_01]: So you got a question is Cameron or the new number one for dynasty. 08:20.771 --> 08:21.512 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about that? 08:23.025 --> 08:33.329 [SPEAKER_03]: I like to think about dynasty in three or windows, so I'm probably still leaning Jram, but I think it's a toss-up between, especially for points formats, which I predominantly play. 08:33.349 --> 08:37.910 [SPEAKER_03]: A toss-up between Kevin Arrow and Austin Riley at this point, or number two there. 08:38.450 --> 08:42.792 [SPEAKER_03]: I would have Kevin Arrow as a top-thirty overall player in dynasty points formats. 08:43.432 --> 08:47.674 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he is the fifth youngest player in Major League Baseball. 08:47.834 --> 08:53.116 [SPEAKER_03]: As you said, I also, you know, was interested in the twenty-one year old Forty Home Run pace stat. 08:53.457 --> 08:54.237 [SPEAKER_03]: He would be the fourth. 08:54.417 --> 08:58.179 [SPEAKER_03]: It makes you wonder how we would be talking about him if Ronald Econia didn't exist. 08:59.157 --> 09:02.219 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's not really striking out while doing it either. 09:02.239 --> 09:07.103 [SPEAKER_03]: He's striking out in an eighteen percent clip, you know, at this point in the year, which is excellent. 09:08.363 --> 09:10.245 [SPEAKER_03]: And I know he's running a little bit of a lower OBP. 09:10.265 --> 09:16.129 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not going to be helpful in cats or roto in that particular category, at least early in his career. 09:16.549 --> 09:20.331 [SPEAKER_03]: But it matters less in points as it's not a standalone category. 09:21.332 --> 09:22.274 [SPEAKER_03]: I love Junior Campanero. 09:22.294 --> 09:29.928 [SPEAKER_03]: He's a former number one overall prospect for me and we're seeing him put it together really, really young and early in his major league career. 09:31.138 --> 09:40.522 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he might have a stranglehold on that top spot for a bit because, you know, yeah, Riley, I have, so right now, I have Cameronino, twenty-fourth and Riley, twenty-seven. 09:41.063 --> 09:46.265 [SPEAKER_01]: Devours, I was likely going to lose that eligibility this year with something crazy happens out there in San Francisco. 09:46.285 --> 09:50.267 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Jazz, you have a no, if he's to keep eligibility or not, he's a little bit below. 09:50.287 --> 09:54.709 [SPEAKER_01]: But he gets the order of guys in the Chados and Braggmans who are kind of a runk down for me. 09:54.729 --> 09:59.351 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Joe Ram eventually, you know, law of averages and in nature and whatever. 09:59.859 --> 10:02.763 [SPEAKER_01]: He'll not be a stud anymore and probably in a few years. 10:03.364 --> 10:08.391 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know who else could come up and take that spot, the Prospect World at Thunderbase isn't great. 10:08.751 --> 10:16.582 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure one of these one or two of these shorts has to move over, so it's kind of hard to say, but I don't see anyone else that's going to like rise up and threaten Cameron arrows. 10:16.982 --> 10:19.664 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, kind of future top spot at this position. 10:20.365 --> 10:21.866 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's, you know, everything's legit. 10:21.886 --> 10:27.069 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you mentioned, when he's striking out, right around eighteen percent of the time, sure he doesn't walk a whole lot. 10:27.089 --> 10:35.095 [SPEAKER_01]: So the OPP probably never is, you know, overly beneficial, but quality of contact is, you know, near elite right now is already near. 10:36.116 --> 10:40.799 [SPEAKER_01]: He might be either me number one is top three at least in bat speed right now. 10:40.819 --> 10:46.784 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we seventy a mile in our bat speed, you know, a little bit of a higher ground ball rate, but also as a high pull here rate, too. 10:46.864 --> 10:52.348 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, zone contact rate of eighty seven percent overall contact seven and a half percent. 10:52.769 --> 10:54.890 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I think that, you know, average could even take up a little bit. 10:55.290 --> 11:00.815 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's not a lot of, you know, red flags per se with Kim and Arrow doing this at twenty one. 11:01.495 --> 11:02.176 [SPEAKER_01]: So, damn good. 11:02.336 --> 11:03.437 [SPEAKER_01]: And people are like, oh, well, he's in a 11:03.984 --> 11:05.126 [SPEAKER_01]: No, hit her from the home park. 11:05.526 --> 11:07.268 [SPEAKER_01]: The trope is a hit her from the home park, too. 11:07.348 --> 11:14.678 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not he's going to be going back to a picture from the park next year or whenever the trope is ready again, I don't even know when that's going to be, but yeah. 11:15.123 --> 11:18.284 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, hundred percent buying into a camera now. 11:18.304 --> 11:26.067 [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's it's hard not to at this point, but moving across the diamond over to first base, Nick Kurtz. 11:26.227 --> 11:34.910 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Kags is struggling a little bit, but Nick Kurtz after struggling initially has been tearing the cover off the ball, especially here in June. 11:35.350 --> 11:41.092 [SPEAKER_01]: He's up to ten home runs in a hundred and fifty plate appearances so far with the athletics. 11:41.672 --> 11:47.457 [SPEAKER_01]: As a six twenty five slug this month with five home runs in fifty plate appearances. 11:47.477 --> 11:55.524 [SPEAKER_01]: You look at the overall, you know, metrics, you know, quality contact is a lead, fifteen and a half percent barrel rate, forty percent heart hit rate. 11:55.944 --> 12:00.228 [SPEAKER_01]: Contacts, those are still below average, but trending in the right direction here. 12:01.016 --> 12:19.889 [SPEAKER_01]: just not really, you know, walking as much as we saw him walk in the minor leagues, care it a little too high, but again, everything seems to be trending in the right direction with Nick Kurtz and kind of part of that core athletic lineup, which is actually a pretty darn good lineup now, and we'll be in that good hitter from the park for least six, I think two more seasons, I believe, before they go to Vegas. 12:19.929 --> 12:28.135 [SPEAKER_01]: So at this point, looking at those, the dynasty first base rankings, which are, you know, it's cloudy and then it's a bunch of older guys. 12:28.175 --> 12:29.236 [SPEAKER_01]: You got, you know, Lanzo, 12:30.226 --> 12:48.182 [SPEAKER_01]: It's thirty Harper's thirty two, Olson thirty one, Freddy's thirty five, you know, then it kind of falls off, but you know, and I don't think it's crazy to say that by the end of the year, you could have Kurt's, I already have him to top five at this position behind Vladi, Alonza Harper and Olson, but 12:48.677 --> 12:54.560 [SPEAKER_01]: Back to you think it's crazy to say that Kurt's could be as high as the number two guy in this position if he continues to match this season. 12:55.421 --> 12:57.062 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that's crazy. 12:57.482 --> 12:59.423 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't have him there now. 12:59.483 --> 13:01.204 [SPEAKER_03]: I think right around five makes sense. 13:01.284 --> 13:06.026 [SPEAKER_03]: The number I came up with in my head was probably a top eighty overall player. 13:06.046 --> 13:09.488 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we need to be a little bit patient with guys making their debut. 13:09.568 --> 13:13.611 [SPEAKER_03]: We saw that with Kurt's where he started a little slow and he's turned it around as of late. 13:13.631 --> 13:15.652 [SPEAKER_03]: We're also seeing that with Jack Cagleon. 13:16.652 --> 13:21.815 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm going to continue to be patient with Kurt's primarily because he's withing a lot and striking out a lot. 13:22.255 --> 13:26.417 [SPEAKER_03]: He's had some problems with lefties both in the minors and at the major league level. 13:26.997 --> 13:35.261 [SPEAKER_03]: In AAA, his OPS against lefties was seven twenty three in MLB so far it's four ninety two, which is a little concerning. 13:35.461 --> 13:37.622 [SPEAKER_03]: It's small sample but he sort of always had that. 13:39.063 --> 13:45.529 [SPEAKER_03]: And then you touched on this a little bit, but almost all of his performance has come inside our health park. 13:46.070 --> 13:55.299 [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to be there a little while, but the home road splits, you know, combined with lefties, just makes him, you know, tougher option and weekly formats if he's going to be 13:55.979 --> 13:59.762 [SPEAKER_03]: on the road a lot in any particular week or facing a lot of lefties. 14:00.423 --> 14:06.288 [SPEAKER_03]: That said, all of it still counts and most of his play appearances will come against righties and half of his games will be at home. 14:06.789 --> 14:10.492 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm maybe being a little bit more cautious than I need to be. 14:10.512 --> 14:14.315 [SPEAKER_03]: I really, really like Nick Kurtz before he graduated. 14:14.335 --> 14:20.861 [SPEAKER_03]: I would have had him as a top five prospect in the sport, but waiting for him to make a little bit more contact and strike out just a little bit less. 14:21.773 --> 14:23.214 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's totally fair. 14:23.634 --> 14:30.519 [SPEAKER_01]: We're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, 14:34.873 --> 14:37.195 [SPEAKER_03]: I have never really known what to do with. 14:37.695 --> 14:39.857 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's a tough one. 14:40.518 --> 14:52.607 [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like, you know, when he got promoted in my head, I was like, yeah, he could strike out, forty percent of the time, but he could also hit twenty five home runs for the rest of the season and neither would surprise me. 14:53.227 --> 14:55.269 [SPEAKER_03]: So there's just so much volatility there. 14:55.489 --> 14:57.811 [SPEAKER_03]: I think some of this might depend on your big size. 14:57.911 --> 15:02.395 [SPEAKER_03]: If I were just shooting upside, pure upside, I probably lean cags. 15:03.515 --> 15:09.279 [SPEAKER_03]: If I were in a deeper league and I needed maybe a more stable option, I would go curts, but I think they're pretty close right now. 15:10.159 --> 15:11.160 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's definitely fair. 15:11.240 --> 15:15.402 [SPEAKER_01]: I think upside to give us a side edge to the cags floor, so that it's a curse. 15:15.983 --> 15:20.225 [SPEAKER_01]: But in the same rank, I don't think there's like a little super low floor for for cags either. 15:20.345 --> 15:23.007 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously Chase is a ton and he is right now, but 15:23.597 --> 15:27.418 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I think these guys are both top five options at the position moving forward. 15:27.458 --> 15:29.539 [SPEAKER_01]: Just we'll see how quickly they get there. 15:29.959 --> 15:40.522 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Kurt's already getting there and in that discussion, you know, Josh Nailer, you know, similar tier right now, but you know, the positions kind of, you know, so there's problems getting up there, Michael Bush, 15:41.622 --> 15:58.659 [SPEAKER_01]: a couple of guys getting up there, but it'll be fun to see how this position develops over the next couple of years as, you know, then Harper will be in his mid-thirties, also in his mid-thirties, Freddy will probably still be hitting whatever, but Freddy always hits, but, and then Vlad's gonna have been like, you know, good, but not great this year, right? 15:59.513 --> 16:04.597 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to back to being like, oh, great metrics, but kind of okay surface stats type of guy. 16:04.637 --> 16:07.219 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, this is a weird as position. 16:07.239 --> 16:07.559 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you. 16:07.899 --> 16:21.229 [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to like kind of put rank this position right now with the mix of young and old, but I think it's going to change a lot over the next couple of years to the position is trending older and it's almost like there's a change of guard coming. 16:21.249 --> 16:21.870 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 16:22.610 --> 16:28.874 [SPEAKER_03]: And so, yeah, I think it's pretty volatile right now, and I think people should be thinking about their windows, you know, to win. 16:29.134 --> 16:40.821 [SPEAKER_03]: If that's in the next, you know, if that's this year, and next year, I probably mean some of the older guys, if you're building for the future, then, you know, there's gonna be, like I said, a changing of the guard. 16:41.661 --> 16:50.527 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we seem to get that every, like, decade or so at this particular position, like, you know, go back ten years, it's like, all right, when pools were starting to fall off, and Mickey and Fato, 16:51.018 --> 16:59.333 [SPEAKER_01]: And those types and then some of these like the harpers, no, he was not a first place from then, but some of these younger guys are emerging then now they're the older guys now. 16:59.413 --> 17:01.898 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think that's that change in the guard as you said. 17:02.382 --> 17:03.603 [SPEAKER_01]: is coming soon for sure. 17:04.424 --> 17:20.481 [SPEAKER_01]: Next guy, I want to talk about, he doesn't really fit the rest of this episode, but I think I should have talked about this guy on recent episodes and having, so well, I'm the steak him in here, and that's Joe Boyle of the Tampa Bay race, who's been absolutely dominant in AAA lately. 17:21.642 --> 17:29.209 [SPEAKER_01]: pitched on Thursday had his fourth straight outing of at least eight strikeouts and then over his last eleven starts for Durham. 17:29.609 --> 17:36.876 [SPEAKER_01]: Fifty six innings, one seven seven ERA, zero eight nine whip, only an eight point eight percent walk rate, which is huge. 17:37.476 --> 17:41.803 [SPEAKER_01]: And then at thirty two point and I was to strike a rate one fifty nine batting average against. 17:41.963 --> 17:44.767 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that walk rate was always really high with Boyle. 17:45.148 --> 17:49.494 [SPEAKER_01]: Stuff's always been really good, but the walk rate was kind of why I was not super high in Boyle. 17:49.855 --> 17:52.980 [SPEAKER_01]: That he's starting to show better, you know, can be in control. 17:53.605 --> 18:03.717 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm certain to buy it on Joe Boyle here and you've got to wonder if he gets a chance to contribute here in Tampa Bay sooner rather than later if you see with guys like Bradley not pitching so well right now. 18:04.358 --> 18:10.586 [SPEAKER_01]: So what do you thoughts on Joe Boyle back and are you more confident in him now that he's kind of lowering that walk rate? 18:11.445 --> 18:16.628 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's enjoyed over his last three starts, the best stretcher of structuring of his career. 18:17.248 --> 18:25.672 [SPEAKER_03]: Last year in Las Vegas, he was walking almost eight batters per nine over a forty five inning sample in sixty four ratings with their own this year. 18:25.712 --> 18:26.572 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just three and a half. 18:26.773 --> 18:29.454 [SPEAKER_03]: That is a material change in control. 18:30.134 --> 18:31.855 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's going to pop on stuff models. 18:32.135 --> 18:37.478 [SPEAKER_03]: If he is walking like nine, ten percent of batters, he's going to be a good starter. 18:38.098 --> 18:46.465 [SPEAKER_03]: He may be a little bit volatile if he just doesn't have it, you know, some nights, but this is the sort of arm talent that could be a top of the rotation starter. 18:46.485 --> 18:48.667 [SPEAKER_03]: And it feels like we've been waiting on it for a while. 18:49.447 --> 18:52.570 [SPEAKER_03]: I am getting a little bit more confident, just based on the film that I've seen. 18:52.590 --> 19:00.956 [SPEAKER_03]: And this recent stretch of being in the zone, I sort of wondered the rays have talked pretty publicly about their 19:01.877 --> 19:24.669 [SPEAKER_03]: sort of strategy of telling these guys just throw it right down the middle and let your stuff eat if that is what is going on with boil and he's just getting confident throwing his stuff in the zone and missing you know just off the edge when he isn't locating I'm very intrigued the sort of the raise ethos of just throw it right down the middle and if you let your stuff win is intriguing to me 19:26.035 --> 19:27.376 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, definitely is. 19:27.436 --> 19:30.858 [SPEAKER_01]: And the system's always been obviously pretty good at developing pitchers. 19:30.918 --> 19:37.402 [SPEAKER_01]: And I got to add in there that he also had, you know, that good Major League start back in mid-April against Atlanta. 19:37.422 --> 19:38.303 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't give him a hit. 19:38.763 --> 19:43.406 [SPEAKER_01]: It was two underruns, two walks and seven straightouts across five innings. 19:43.747 --> 19:54.894 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorting a spot starting with back down to Triple A, but yeah, you look at, you know, really in the last four starts, only seven, you know, three five walks in the last four starts combined. 19:55.554 --> 20:14.607 [SPEAKER_01]: and really just only those two starts in like mid May we had four and three walks we had two starts of six innings total seven walks but outside of that it's been pretty good over his last eleven starts in AAA so yeah stuff is really really good with Joe Boyle yes I'm definitely intrigued I 20:15.068 --> 20:20.790 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that he's got that that walk right down straight throwing as you mentioned is better, you know, I'm definitely back to being intrigued. 20:20.850 --> 20:23.971 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, I was with Miss Yerowski who will get to here in a bit. 20:23.991 --> 20:38.616 [SPEAKER_01]: These guys, I kind of, it's not like a golden rule, but if there are like ten-ish percent, I'm like, all right, if they have great stuff back and still play, when they get to like twelve plus percent, you know, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen percent, that's when I get really concerned. 20:38.636 --> 20:40.197 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, all right, they're either going to the bullpen. 20:40.684 --> 20:45.007 [SPEAKER_01]: or they're just not gonna ever kind of figure it out to the point where, you know, they maximize their upsides. 20:45.067 --> 20:47.129 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, Boyle was in that range. 20:47.169 --> 20:51.612 [SPEAKER_01]: I forget what the walk rate was, but it was super high like, fifteen, seventeen percent, something like that. 20:51.692 --> 20:53.634 [SPEAKER_01]: And now it's been basically cutting half this year. 20:53.974 --> 20:55.515 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm definitely intrigued for sure. 20:56.256 --> 21:04.082 [SPEAKER_03]: One thing I haven't really done the legwork to figure out is I have noticed sort of this trend of pictures coming up from AAA where they do the automated ball strikes. 21:06.157 --> 21:09.920 [SPEAKER_03]: and seeing their walk rate tick down two or three percent. 21:10.040 --> 21:22.150 [SPEAKER_03]: And I would love to understand if that is something to do with the ABS system or if that's just the effective big league pitching staffs or coaching staffs. 21:23.491 --> 21:29.896 [SPEAKER_03]: Or if I'm even right, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Boyle come up and throw even more strikes or limit walks rather. 21:30.576 --> 21:32.777 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, that's definitely a good point there. 21:32.817 --> 21:34.998 [SPEAKER_01]: It's really interesting to kind of dig into that. 21:35.118 --> 21:38.899 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, on both sides of it, like it's another example of Bubba Chandler's walkway. 21:38.919 --> 21:40.860 [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of skyrocketed recently. 21:40.960 --> 21:44.961 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, is that, you know, these metropolis the whole season, but is it more so? 21:44.981 --> 21:47.262 [SPEAKER_01]: Because of the system, or is it just a mental thing? 21:47.302 --> 21:51.783 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of interesting kind of talking points that dig into in terms of the ABS system. 21:51.823 --> 21:56.305 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's definitely a good point there on Boyle, but I got to 21:56.769 --> 21:58.149 [SPEAKER_01]: Imagine he's up fairly soon here. 21:58.309 --> 22:02.831 [SPEAKER_01]: Another blow up or two from Bradley or whoever, and I think you see Boyle get another chance here. 22:03.631 --> 22:06.892 [SPEAKER_01]: But we got a couple of interesting prospect promotions here. 22:06.952 --> 22:12.614 [SPEAKER_01]: The big one, Chase Burns will make his major league debut on Tuesday against the New York Yankee. 22:12.674 --> 22:17.415 [SPEAKER_01]: So in your first inning, you get to see Aaron Judge, either second or third in the lineup, that's gonna be fun. 22:18.075 --> 22:24.117 [SPEAKER_01]: But Burns is my number one pitching prospect, and I think is for a good amount of people now, definitely in that top tier for sure. 22:24.937 --> 22:28.381 [SPEAKER_01]: And thirteen starts this year between high AA and AAA. 22:28.982 --> 22:40.294 [SPEAKER_01]: Sixty six innings, one seven seven ERA, zero seven seven whip, only a five and a half percent walk rate, thirty six point eight percent strike rate, and a one sixty six batting average against. 22:40.394 --> 22:40.594 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, 22:41.577 --> 22:48.803 [SPEAKER_01]: This guy has, you know, the two, maybe even double plus pitches with a fastball slider, you know, solid curve and change it as well. 22:48.823 --> 22:53.907 [SPEAKER_01]: On top of all that, he can command a more pretty well and has, you know, plus control. 22:54.068 --> 22:57.491 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a plus commitment control profile over that to the varsinal. 22:57.511 --> 22:59.752 [SPEAKER_01]: You just don't see that blend very often. 22:59.772 --> 23:02.955 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's got pitch happens games in grammar and ballpark. 23:03.015 --> 23:03.776 [SPEAKER_01]: I know that, but 23:04.196 --> 23:08.920 [SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be a nasty one, too, with cream and burns down the road here. 23:08.980 --> 23:11.182 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm all in on burns. 23:11.242 --> 23:15.225 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to put him number one ahead of the Chandler and Painter and all them for a reason. 23:15.245 --> 23:20.890 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm definitely full steam ahead of fully on board, burns being an ace in this league. 23:20.910 --> 23:22.111 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't throw on that term lightly. 23:22.331 --> 23:24.453 [SPEAKER_01]: But what do you think thoughts on burns back? 23:25.352 --> 23:26.253 [SPEAKER_03]: I totally agree. 23:26.674 --> 23:29.356 [SPEAKER_03]: I also have him as my number one pitching prospect. 23:29.496 --> 23:34.380 [SPEAKER_03]: I know I'm supposed to be excited about this promotion, but I was going to see him in Saint Paul. 23:35.881 --> 23:39.805 [SPEAKER_03]: I will not be traveling to Cincinnati to see his majorly give you. 23:39.865 --> 23:41.946 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'll have to watch it on TV just like everybody else. 23:43.428 --> 23:47.813 [SPEAKER_03]: He's one where, you know, I would put a double plus on both the fast ball and the slider. 23:47.894 --> 23:58.787 [SPEAKER_03]: This is almost like a Spencer Strider situation where he's so dominant with two pitches that as long as he has sort of a release valve of a change up or a curve ball that is serviceable or helps him get out lefties. 23:59.528 --> 24:00.108 [SPEAKER_03]: That's enough. 24:00.929 --> 24:03.050 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really care too much about the ballpark. 24:03.070 --> 24:04.851 [SPEAKER_03]: I think the arm talent is just that good. 24:04.871 --> 24:11.455 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, leading minor league baseball in strikeout minus walk rate for pitchers over fifty innings this year. 24:11.475 --> 24:28.225 [SPEAKER_03]: And honestly, I think a lot of the people that I talked to about baseball or who write about baseball and aren't in the fantasy space are really mulling over the question of whether or not Chase Burns should be the next pitcher ranks number one overall, not just among pitchers. 24:28.745 --> 24:28.885 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 24:29.005 --> 24:30.066 [SPEAKER_03]: The talent is that good. 24:30.106 --> 24:37.570 [SPEAKER_03]: This is, you know, sort of situation where if Paul schemes didn't exist, everybody would have been a lot more excited about Chase Burns coming into FYPDs. 24:37.930 --> 24:42.132 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not suggesting that Chase Burns is going to pull an eighty grade off speed pitch out of his back pocket. 24:42.673 --> 24:46.795 [SPEAKER_03]: But his top two pitches, the fastball and slider are that good. 24:48.041 --> 24:49.302 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they absolutely are. 24:49.482 --> 24:52.263 [SPEAKER_01]: Look at his last outing, which was on, I think was the eighteenth. 24:52.403 --> 24:54.905 [SPEAKER_01]: He had the eleven whiffs on that slider. 24:55.485 --> 24:57.826 [SPEAKER_01]: The fastball of the garbage was like ninety and a half something like that. 24:57.866 --> 25:01.488 [SPEAKER_01]: He could hit triple digits with regularity throughout the start. 25:01.988 --> 25:04.029 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, he just comes in and says everything so well. 25:04.089 --> 25:06.111 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like he's a ten percent walkway guy. 25:06.131 --> 25:08.312 [SPEAKER_01]: This is down near five percent walkway guys. 25:09.012 --> 25:14.598 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I am fully buying into what we've seen for Burns this year and yeah, I can't wait for that debut. 25:14.638 --> 25:19.144 [SPEAKER_01]: It would be a fun like mid week for pitching as we got Burns debut on Tuesday. 25:19.544 --> 25:20.645 [SPEAKER_01]: Then we got Wednesday. 25:20.685 --> 25:22.687 [SPEAKER_01]: We got skins for Miss Yerowski. 25:23.689 --> 25:26.352 [SPEAKER_01]: I think two ten Eastern time on Wednesday's debut. 25:26.972 --> 25:28.493 [SPEAKER_01]: fun midweek game as well. 25:29.333 --> 25:37.638 [SPEAKER_01]: The other promotion here, not quite as big as Chase Burns, but still a pretty fun one and did your Fuentez with the Atlanta Braves. 25:38.118 --> 25:48.924 [SPEAKER_01]: Feels very similar to the rise of Adis Machover two years ago, where it's, you know, a twenty year old debut in a gest turn, twenty, like last week. 25:48.964 --> 25:56.508 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was nine starts this year, started out in high A and a few in W. I, I think it was just one in Triple A, maybe two. 25:57.513 --> 25:58.354 [SPEAKER_01]: Nine starts overall. 25:58.414 --> 25:59.434 [SPEAKER_01]: Thirty nine and a third innings. 25:59.774 --> 26:02.855 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a four eight one year a but that's very misleading. 26:03.436 --> 26:05.797 [SPEAKER_01]: Two eight to five three three nine X-FIP. 26:06.417 --> 26:07.297 [SPEAKER_01]: One twelve whip. 26:07.837 --> 26:20.743 [SPEAKER_01]: Seven point two percent walker eight twenty eight point nine percent strikeout rate and a two fifteen batting average against M. O. B. D. U. D. other day when five innings six hits four earned one walk and three strikeouts. 26:21.443 --> 26:26.205 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you thought's on Fuente as I mean are you buying this pretty big rise are we seeing from him this year. 26:27.447 --> 26:28.888 [SPEAKER_01]: I like Didier Fuentes. 26:29.148 --> 26:30.629 [SPEAKER_03]: I think the fastball is awesome. 26:31.669 --> 26:32.630 [SPEAKER_03]: It has a lot of hop. 26:32.970 --> 26:34.131 [SPEAKER_03]: It has a low release point. 26:34.311 --> 26:39.774 [SPEAKER_03]: It's sort of a similar VA profile to Brian Wu, for example, if you're looking for fastball comps. 26:41.494 --> 26:50.279 [SPEAKER_03]: My concerns are, you know, they promoted him two days after his twentieth birthday, two months ago he was pitching in high A. He just had a great start in major league baseball. 26:50.819 --> 26:50.979 [SPEAKER_03]: And I 26:52.160 --> 26:59.786 [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of think the best time to sell a prospect that you're not sure on is right after they play well and they're majorly giving you a hundred percent of the picture. 27:00.346 --> 27:03.109 [SPEAKER_03]: And I do have some concerns about Fuantus long term. 27:03.189 --> 27:04.229 [SPEAKER_03]: He's kind of slight. 27:05.110 --> 27:06.892 [SPEAKER_03]: He's six foot, a hundred and seventy. 27:07.812 --> 27:12.796 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's primarily two pitches, which is sort of a traditional relieverish profile. 27:13.557 --> 27:15.718 [SPEAKER_03]: I really like what he's done this thus far. 27:15.979 --> 27:17.500 [SPEAKER_03]: I would have him inside my top one hundred. 27:17.620 --> 27:21.303 [SPEAKER_03]: But if I could sell him for major league talent right now, that would help me win. 27:21.983 --> 27:23.623 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's probably the way to go. 27:24.003 --> 27:28.544 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe he's gotten himself some runway now with Chris Sale, you know, hitting the shelf. 27:29.185 --> 27:31.305 [SPEAKER_03]: But he's exciting. 27:31.465 --> 27:32.865 [SPEAKER_03]: The fastballs really, really good. 27:33.405 --> 27:38.266 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd be sort of putting dealers out there for anybody that might need young pitching and trying to get something more established in return. 27:39.187 --> 27:41.987 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely a team that's kind of falling out of contention nearly. 27:42.007 --> 27:49.569 [SPEAKER_01]: Then I want to trade away one of those like, you know, early to mid-thirties, arms for a guy like Fuentes or a package with Fuentes. 27:49.589 --> 27:50.669 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, that's definitely a 27:51.438 --> 27:53.719 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of right somewhere thought to you. 27:53.739 --> 27:56.179 [SPEAKER_01]: I like Fuentes and he's definitely moved up for me. 27:56.199 --> 27:56.639 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't go ahead. 27:56.659 --> 28:06.202 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking a hundred, but they got him top one fifty and then I just don't know if there's yeah, you mentioned the two pitch guy, but there's really the fastball leading the way. 28:06.222 --> 28:10.643 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't love, you know, the second areas with Fuentes or the two breakers, but 28:11.388 --> 28:18.710 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I get still very young, obviously, so you could keep developing those pictures more, maybe develop to change up or cut or something. 28:19.231 --> 28:31.115 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm so, that's some questions there with Fuentes, and I was going to wonder, I don't think they screwed up to a shopper, but I think they might have set him back a little bit a couple of years ago with how heavy they pushed him. 28:31.775 --> 28:37.377 [SPEAKER_01]: Easy to say now, but I kind of wonder if they pushed Fuentes a little bit too much as well, even though the arm talent definitely is fun. 28:38.057 --> 28:40.359 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I like, and I don't love Fuente. 28:40.379 --> 28:44.601 [SPEAKER_01]: I think this kind of one part of say, yeah, I definitely would be kind of that same one of thinking with you. 28:45.021 --> 28:51.045 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, especially if I'm a contending team, I could treat you to make a trade for a more established veteran that helps you more right now. 28:51.626 --> 28:56.389 [SPEAKER_01]: It may be not helps me down the road, but yeah, I think that'd be definitely a move I'll be looking to make right now for sure. 28:56.709 --> 28:58.290 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, good point there for sure. 28:59.238 --> 28:59.938 [SPEAKER_01]: On Fuentes. 29:00.859 --> 29:03.261 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, moving on to Toronto here. 29:03.281 --> 29:09.624 [SPEAKER_01]: I saw a tray of savage and Toronto watts brown on the double header on a very humid night. 29:10.225 --> 29:11.946 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was kind of feeling like you were feeling early today. 29:12.166 --> 29:16.749 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't that hot, but still there was a warmest day of the year so far up here in the Northeast. 29:17.509 --> 29:18.530 [SPEAKER_01]: But back to that games. 29:18.550 --> 29:21.992 [SPEAKER_01]: Another one overall that the lines kind of got away from them. 29:22.947 --> 29:28.308 [SPEAKER_01]: Overall, especially in their final inning, but they both were very very impressive overall. 29:29.089 --> 29:31.129 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll start with the savage. 29:31.669 --> 29:32.729 [SPEAKER_01]: He was cruising through two. 29:32.889 --> 29:37.571 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he only had twenty three pitches through two, and then it just all came and rambled in the third inning. 29:38.091 --> 29:47.313 [SPEAKER_01]: Ended up two and two thirds, three hits, four runs, three walks, four k's, eleven whiffs, fastball sets, ninety three, ninety four, tough at ninety five. 29:47.493 --> 29:48.073 [SPEAKER_01]: He's done harder. 29:48.545 --> 29:54.008 [SPEAKER_01]: against earlier starts this year, a splitter, you know, eighty two to eighty four, eighty five or so was really good. 29:54.529 --> 29:59.172 [SPEAKER_01]: Slider in the mid to upper eighties and he threw a few curveballs around eighty two, eighty three. 29:59.192 --> 30:05.716 [SPEAKER_01]: And then John Watts Brown, who was I think even more impressive in that particular day. 30:05.736 --> 30:07.877 [SPEAKER_01]: They did walk four and four and two thirds. 30:08.598 --> 30:11.679 [SPEAKER_01]: Three hits, two runs, eight strikeouts, eight team whiffs. 30:12.300 --> 30:16.523 [SPEAKER_01]: I think seventeen of those came in the first three innings, then you got one, the last inning and two thirds. 30:17.383 --> 30:19.924 [SPEAKER_01]: Fastball is down to ninety four with him. 30:19.964 --> 30:21.325 [SPEAKER_01]: He had ninety six a few times. 30:21.945 --> 30:22.925 [SPEAKER_01]: I loved both breakers. 30:23.005 --> 30:27.487 [SPEAKER_01]: Slider in the mid-eighties curveball in the low-eighties, both are missing bats at high. 30:27.567 --> 30:34.590 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he had, I think was it seven whips on the slider and then six on the curve and then three on the fastball. 30:34.610 --> 30:36.390 [SPEAKER_01]: I think was the breakdown of it. 30:36.931 --> 30:40.292 [SPEAKER_01]: And a few a few changeups turned eighty five, eighty six or so. 30:40.312 --> 30:42.813 [SPEAKER_01]: To me, I was kind of spotty with him, which is, we got him in trouble. 30:43.593 --> 30:48.256 [SPEAKER_01]: But both very good arm talents right there with your savage and Watts Brown. 30:48.276 --> 30:55.701 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're both like top five or ten in terms of swinging strike rate in the minor leagues right now for you know guys that have actually pitched a good amount of innings. 30:56.462 --> 30:59.924 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, your savage I think is the top ten pitching projects right now. 30:59.944 --> 31:00.964 [SPEAKER_01]: I think most people have him there. 31:01.085 --> 31:07.589 [SPEAKER_01]: But Watts Brown, I think yeah, you commented on my on my one of my first videos of him that is how underrated he is. 31:07.669 --> 31:12.372 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's a great dinosaur target right now because the price tag is I don't think that high. 31:12.732 --> 31:13.674 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was even guilty of it, too. 31:13.694 --> 31:15.777 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I underranked them myself, not anymore. 31:15.817 --> 31:17.440 [SPEAKER_01]: I've definitely moved them up a lot since seeing them. 31:17.500 --> 31:21.947 [SPEAKER_01]: But so what do you thoughts here on your savage and watch Brown back? 31:23.190 --> 31:29.074 [SPEAKER_03]: Hi, maybe on the Blue Jays more broadly, I think the Blue Jays are pretty slept on. 31:29.335 --> 31:33.017 [SPEAKER_03]: You, I mean, want these two, you savage and watch brown. 31:33.377 --> 31:38.581 [SPEAKER_03]: You also have Cal Steffen or Steven engage Stanford on the way to New Hampshire. 31:38.621 --> 31:42.244 [SPEAKER_03]: You also have Johnny King who was probably the best pitcher at the complex level this year. 31:42.264 --> 31:47.788 [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of things going really well in Toronto and, you know, pray for hitters who have to spend a week in 31:48.428 --> 31:59.694 [SPEAKER_03]: New Hampshire because there's a possibility that in the near future, you could get a week that goes, you savage, Watts Brown, Cal Stephen, and Gage Stanford, which is a tough week hit. 32:00.755 --> 32:01.896 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm with you, on you Savage. 32:01.996 --> 32:03.697 [SPEAKER_03]: She's a top ten pitching prospect. 32:03.717 --> 32:14.263 [SPEAKER_03]: Right now, he's third and strikeout minus walk rate among arms with at least fifty innings pitch, which is just a filter I put on to take out some of the Dominican summer league guys that have really wonky lines. 32:15.103 --> 32:18.925 [SPEAKER_03]: I had if him are our chase burns and way in land of the athletics. 32:19.546 --> 32:21.387 [SPEAKER_03]: His fastball is kind of freaky. 32:21.807 --> 32:26.670 [SPEAKER_03]: It has a lot of hop just because his arm angle is so high. 32:27.130 --> 32:29.071 [SPEAKER_03]: He gets a lot of effective backspin on it. 32:29.151 --> 32:31.633 [SPEAKER_03]: That splitter is really nasty. 32:31.653 --> 32:34.655 [SPEAKER_03]: I adopted him to see him in the spring break out and that pitch looked 32:35.175 --> 32:35.735 [SPEAKER_03]: cartoonish. 32:36.335 --> 32:38.576 [SPEAKER_03]: And the slider is effective. 32:39.096 --> 32:40.437 [SPEAKER_03]: It's also kind of strange. 32:41.157 --> 32:47.899 [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of a gyro shape, but sometimes like moves arm side, which is very, very strange for that sort of pitch. 32:48.500 --> 32:50.520 [SPEAKER_03]: Again, just predicated on his arm angle. 32:51.541 --> 32:57.223 [SPEAKER_03]: And it looks like a supremely challenging or uncomfortable at bat in the box. 32:57.323 --> 32:59.723 [SPEAKER_03]: If you're sitting right behind home plate, you're like, how do you pick this up? 33:00.624 --> 33:01.244 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely. 33:02.016 --> 33:03.697 [SPEAKER_03]: He struggles a little bit with control. 33:03.717 --> 33:05.999 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that has to do with his mechanics. 33:06.039 --> 33:11.903 [SPEAKER_03]: He's walked eleven and a half percent of batters so far this year, but it hasn't really mattered because he's striking out like forty percent of batters. 33:12.524 --> 33:20.470 [SPEAKER_03]: Really, really impressive arm props to the blue jays for, you know, going after him even though he had some questionable medicals after that collapsed along. 33:22.091 --> 33:22.591 [SPEAKER_03]: He looks great. 33:22.912 --> 33:24.253 [SPEAKER_03]: What a return on investment so far. 33:25.452 --> 33:35.214 [SPEAKER_03]: As far as Watts Brown is concerned, he's kind of an interesting story, and I think it's a good parallel for how front offices don't care about what you did in college. 33:35.454 --> 33:38.255 [SPEAKER_03]: They just care about pitch shapes and characteristics. 33:38.775 --> 33:48.537 [SPEAKER_03]: Watts Brown was a starter with a five ERA his last year at Oklahoma State, and the Blue Jay still took him in the third round and signed him for over a million dollars just because they liked his stuff. 33:51.150 --> 33:56.513 [SPEAKER_03]: He gets crazy life on the fastball, even though it sits, you know, I'm ninety three, ninety five, top ninety seven. 33:57.534 --> 34:01.276 [SPEAKER_03]: The slider also kind of gyro, you know, you said you saw a bunch of whiffs. 34:01.416 --> 34:05.238 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it acts kind of like an off-speed pitch to righties. 34:05.358 --> 34:11.522 [SPEAKER_03]: And then he is throwing his change up more often this year to lefties, which I think is just unlocked another level for him. 34:11.982 --> 34:15.604 [SPEAKER_03]: The curve ball is really the true breaking ball that I've seen on video at least. 34:15.964 --> 34:17.325 [SPEAKER_03]: And it all looks really good. 34:17.345 --> 34:20.047 [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of a true four pitch mix now that he's throwing his change up. 34:20.487 --> 34:21.908 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think he's really underrated right now. 34:22.729 --> 34:23.329 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, absolutely. 34:23.349 --> 34:24.791 [SPEAKER_01]: I was super impressed. 34:25.171 --> 34:29.314 [SPEAKER_01]: There's always like, I love these guys that, you know, obviously, I was just kind of the see him. 34:29.334 --> 34:38.322 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I know he was going, but there's always a few guys every year where I don't expect to be as kind of wild as I end up being. 34:38.782 --> 34:41.784 [SPEAKER_01]: Like a couple years ago, like Richard Fitz, like blew me away in double light. 34:41.804 --> 34:44.827 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I want to see T-Demon, T-Demon was facing fifth. 34:44.867 --> 34:46.148 [SPEAKER_01]: T-Demon only lasts two innings. 34:46.548 --> 34:49.210 [SPEAKER_01]: Fits had like eleven keys and six shot out or whatever it was that day. 34:50.111 --> 34:55.999 [SPEAKER_01]: I love when you just see guys that you weren't expecting to be that impressed by, and you know, what's Brown was certainly impressive. 34:56.019 --> 35:01.787 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this this walk-ish is both these guys, I think, but it's but your savages to your point, it's a very 35:02.895 --> 35:03.696 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go ahead and describe it. 35:04.056 --> 35:05.437 [SPEAKER_01]: It's very athletic delivery. 35:05.877 --> 35:07.799 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's kind of like limbs coming at you. 35:08.379 --> 35:11.341 [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of kind of hard to describe his delivery. 35:11.421 --> 35:11.681 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 35:12.062 --> 35:13.603 [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's not one that you'll see it. 35:13.623 --> 35:14.944 [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, oh, that's that's interesting. 35:15.284 --> 35:25.792 [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's not I'm not saying it's in a bad way necessarily because he repeats it fairly well from what I was seeing, but it's definitely an interesting delivery from you savage, but 35:26.192 --> 35:40.200 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, him and Watts Brown, you just have just the big name as we mentioned, but I think Watts Brown, maybe he's not top ten pitching prospect level, but it's a name that's pretty good pitching prospect that's, you know, slept on a little bit and just not ranked as highly as he probably should be. 35:40.260 --> 35:46.383 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, definitely a great kind of value target in dynasty leagues right now for sure. 35:46.923 --> 35:49.925 [SPEAKER_03]: There are guys like that you can jump on basically every year. 35:50.025 --> 35:51.946 [SPEAKER_03]: And the key is just to get in on them early. 35:52.086 --> 35:55.568 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think right now is the opportunity to get in on Watts Brown. 35:56.188 --> 36:02.632 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sitting same with cost Evan, you know, same with, you know, Johnny King's guy that I liked a lot when I was writing up the Toronto system this off season. 36:03.052 --> 36:05.934 [SPEAKER_01]: As you mentioned, he's one of the better arms down in the complex level. 36:05.954 --> 36:10.257 [SPEAKER_01]: And this Toronto system, they're they're cooking something on the pitching side for sure. 36:10.797 --> 36:16.540 [SPEAKER_01]: See, they can figure out some of the sub hitters and a lot of good hitting prospects in the system, but pitching their deficit could something for sure. 36:16.580 --> 36:16.720 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 36:16.981 --> 36:17.141 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 36:17.796 --> 36:19.497 [SPEAKER_01]: Or they, we could say they're brewing something. 36:19.557 --> 36:20.578 [SPEAKER_01]: And that would be better. 36:20.718 --> 36:28.464 [SPEAKER_01]: Better segue into our final kind of discussion point here of some Milwaukee Brewers prospects. 36:28.504 --> 36:31.926 [SPEAKER_01]: This is one of the more fun systems in baseball. 36:31.946 --> 36:35.689 [SPEAKER_01]: Especially on the hitting side, especially with Milwaukee, but we'll start with a pitcher. 36:35.829 --> 36:37.230 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, that's the way it goes. 36:38.171 --> 36:39.252 [SPEAKER_01]: Jacob is yourowski. 36:39.312 --> 36:43.135 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, oh Lord, the way the way he started his majorly career 36:43.875 --> 36:46.817 [SPEAKER_01]: I already kind of talked about him a lot last week. 36:46.857 --> 36:54.000 [SPEAKER_01]: So I won't kind of give deep thoughts here again this week, but I had talk, Mr. Rasky, with Beck being a walkie guy. 36:54.541 --> 36:56.742 [SPEAKER_01]: First two starts from Mr. Rasky. 36:56.982 --> 36:57.662 [SPEAKER_01]: I love this stat. 36:58.083 --> 37:03.846 [SPEAKER_01]: He's the first pitcher of Major League history, and his first two starts have more wins to than hits a loud one. 37:04.246 --> 37:09.629 [SPEAKER_01]: I just think in the same stat line, it's a random thing, but it's just like two wins. 37:10.509 --> 37:25.019 [SPEAKER_01]: one hit allowed and I had a lot was even until the seventh and he had a no hit are going to the seventh of his last start for a kind of came a little bit unraveled in the seventh, but only two earned and one hit allowed five walks, eleven strikeouts in the first eleven innings. 37:25.039 --> 37:30.303 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is a guy that has some of the highs upside and all of baseball. 37:30.683 --> 37:39.229 [SPEAKER_01]: He's already taken over the fastball velocity leader board at the top spot behind the green among actual starters, you know, I'm just going to relieve his higher than him, but 37:39.809 --> 37:59.002 [SPEAKER_01]: and ninety-nine points seven mile an hour average fast mobility there was first two stars and he's a slider averaging ninety four point six a change up ninety two point eight in a curve ball eighty seven point six so uh... what do you thought's on mizzie rasty and this how good do you think this guy can be long term 37:59.882 --> 38:01.624 [SPEAKER_03]: they should extend him tomorrow. 38:03.305 --> 38:13.635 [SPEAKER_03]: He, I was in attendance on Friday night and just listening to twins fans around me, sort of VP Wilderd by what they were seeing on the scoreboard with velocities was really, really fun. 38:14.195 --> 38:22.163 [SPEAKER_03]: In his first start, baseball, it was fighting for its life trying to classify these pitches because it's such an abnormal sort of velocity band. 38:22.643 --> 38:25.466 [SPEAKER_03]: He's a total unicorn and he is a joy to watch 38:26.686 --> 38:30.268 [SPEAKER_03]: I think like his strike throwing has taken a step forward this year. 38:30.328 --> 38:38.952 [SPEAKER_03]: The brewer has made a pretty intentional push for him to throw this slider variation that he's able to zone more often and I think that has really paid dividends in terms of him limiting walks. 38:39.592 --> 38:45.755 [SPEAKER_03]: He has pretty stark splits based on how many walks he has and any given game as ERAs like over six when he walks. 38:46.195 --> 38:49.156 [SPEAKER_03]: Three or more batters and under one when he walks to or fewer. 38:50.457 --> 38:53.318 [SPEAKER_03]: So really dialing in that control I think is going to be important. 38:53.838 --> 39:00.802 [SPEAKER_03]: The big conversation that I've been having about Newsy Rowsky and arms like him that have had sort of a grieges walk rates. 39:00.922 --> 39:02.703 [SPEAKER_03]: We spend a little bit of time talking about Joe Boyle. 39:03.403 --> 39:06.085 [SPEAKER_03]: Is you need to, I think, balance as a dynasty player. 39:06.105 --> 39:14.990 [SPEAKER_03]: You need to balance the likelihood that they become an ace and the likelihood that they are a bullpen, a bullpen arm. 39:15.800 --> 39:21.185 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we really like to put players into buckets and treat that sort of as a binary. 39:21.245 --> 39:24.468 [SPEAKER_03]: You are a starter for sure or you are a reliever for sure. 39:24.488 --> 39:26.490 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think I'm guilty of this. 39:26.730 --> 39:27.791 [SPEAKER_03]: I had Ms. 39:28.251 --> 39:35.638 [SPEAKER_03]: I think seventy or seventy one in the book just because I was pretty certain he was going to break through as a reliever and spend a good amount of time there. 39:36.318 --> 39:39.580 [SPEAKER_03]: And I didn't know if the command control was going to come around. 39:39.980 --> 39:42.801 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm really buying what's going on now. 39:42.841 --> 39:49.945 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying not to be a sensationalist, just based on the eleven and change innings that he's thrown this far. 39:50.105 --> 39:51.265 [SPEAKER_03]: But he looks awesome. 39:51.445 --> 39:56.068 [SPEAKER_03]: I think the new slider is paying dividends in terms of helping him throw strikes. 39:57.088 --> 40:00.650 [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I just want him to be healthy and a brewer for a very long time. 40:01.940 --> 40:15.013 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't like to do cops, but he gives me some like young Tyler glass now vibes, which I think is easy to say, it's given, you know, both tall, lengthier, right, he's just ridiculously stupid stuff. 40:15.714 --> 40:16.535 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I was the same. 40:16.575 --> 40:23.722 [SPEAKER_01]: My guy, I, Mr. Ski's program in one of the, you know, the more that the top hundred type guys that have bounced around up and down the most for me. 40:24.222 --> 40:28.186 [SPEAKER_01]: It's because like, all right, this late last year early part of this year. 40:28.206 --> 40:30.708 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I kind of had him drop down a little bit too. 40:30.908 --> 40:38.796 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was probably similar range at seventy five eighty after having him like top fifty earlier last year, just because I don't know if this guy's going to be a starter or feet. 40:39.477 --> 40:50.261 [SPEAKER_01]: If he is, as he be, this guy that's super maddening to roster with a higher whip, and then he started turning it around, and he had that stretch where he was like, you know, not walking anybody for a few starts. 40:50.301 --> 40:54.283 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, all right, this is really intriguing, because that's, again, that's all he asked for. 40:54.323 --> 40:56.804 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, keep it at ten percent, dude, that's all I care about. 40:57.884 --> 41:00.885 [SPEAKER_01]: I call it, I've always called this the Ferti Paralti rule. 41:01.345 --> 41:07.908 [SPEAKER_01]: It's Ferti, it's just because you're here, but I literally when I've been calling it, but it's always been like nine, ten percent, walk great guy. 41:08.428 --> 41:10.448 [SPEAKER_01]: But the sauce always been so good that he, he made it work. 41:10.529 --> 41:15.750 [SPEAKER_01]: So I've always kind of thought that, all right, keep it at a nine, ten percent and let the elite stuff play. 41:16.370 --> 41:18.790 [SPEAKER_01]: But he was getting up, fourteen, fifteen percent walk away. 41:18.810 --> 41:27.573 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, all right, I don't know if this is going to work as a starter, but at the same time, I don't, I didn't drop them too low because I was like, this guy could be like the best or the closer and baseball. 41:27.893 --> 41:29.253 [SPEAKER_01]: If that's the route that he has to go. 41:29.313 --> 41:33.374 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I was like, all right, I'm not going to drop them too low because he can supply value that way. 41:34.074 --> 41:38.958 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think people like I've got so many comments like I'll be so blown as arm in a year. 41:39.218 --> 41:46.104 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's hope not this you know throwing ninety five amount of sliders is just I can't even like my brain doesn't comprehend nine out of five miles slider. 41:46.444 --> 41:53.130 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was already crazy enough when like to grommison ninety two amount of sliders and now it's like ninety five slider. 41:53.170 --> 41:54.391 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like this isn't saying 41:54.971 --> 41:59.536 [SPEAKER_03]: I never want to hear somebody ask again if Hating is harder today than it was fifteen years ago. 41:59.816 --> 42:05.102 [SPEAKER_03]: I think like just pull up some Jacob Miserowski film and the answer is yes, that is harder to hit. 42:05.703 --> 42:10.227 [SPEAKER_03]: I also this is a total aside, but I can't stand people online who just 42:10.848 --> 42:11.969 [SPEAKER_03]: forecast injuries. 42:12.229 --> 42:15.810 [SPEAKER_03]: We know, you know, a majority of pictures are going to have a major elbow surgery. 42:15.830 --> 42:16.310 [SPEAKER_03]: It's right. 42:16.791 --> 42:23.013 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how to fix that, but it doesn't make you look smart if you just run around and predict injuries all the time. 42:23.113 --> 42:24.554 [SPEAKER_03]: There's no victory left to be had there. 42:24.614 --> 42:25.314 [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody likes that. 42:26.975 --> 42:37.280 [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, I will say, Mr. Rowski and Boyle and to a certain extent like Sebastian Walcott have been really evaluating the way that I go about ranking players because 42:38.340 --> 42:43.883 [SPEAKER_03]: At some point, you have to look at what the ceiling is and look past some flaws. 42:44.103 --> 42:49.066 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that I've been maybe a little bit too pragmatic about, you know, I need a minimum contact rate. 42:49.146 --> 42:50.667 [SPEAKER_03]: I need a minimum strike rate. 42:50.867 --> 42:51.627 [SPEAKER_03]: Those sorts of things. 42:52.108 --> 42:56.990 [SPEAKER_03]: And it can lead me to be a little bit slower or just lower on these players overall. 42:57.371 --> 42:59.812 [SPEAKER_03]: And when they work out, it's a big, big miss. 43:00.092 --> 43:06.156 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm trying to ingrain that in myself that like, you know, you need to pay attention to what this could be. 43:07.416 --> 43:09.977 [SPEAKER_03]: on the positive side as much as you are on the negative side. 43:10.797 --> 43:11.017 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 43:11.417 --> 43:13.858 [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's definitely a tough balance for sure. 43:13.898 --> 43:17.479 [SPEAKER_01]: And then another example of that, you know, he was just about to LED in the cruise. 43:18.119 --> 43:18.399 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 43:18.419 --> 43:24.941 [SPEAKER_01]: How many people were probably like low or out on him because all the strikes out too much, contact rates aren't great. 43:25.301 --> 43:28.421 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm looking at he's got, you know, maybe the highest parachute upside in the game. 43:28.441 --> 43:32.762 [SPEAKER_01]: Like this guy could go fifty, ninety, a year and I will be surprised by it. 43:33.163 --> 43:33.323 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 43:33.363 --> 43:34.763 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's definitely as a good point where 43:35.142 --> 43:37.507 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a hard balance sometimes, turn to figure out. 43:38.128 --> 43:41.053 [SPEAKER_01]: I think a good example right now in the minor league, Spencer Jones. 43:41.955 --> 43:44.760 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this guy has massive, I've seen his massive power. 43:44.781 --> 43:45.422 [SPEAKER_01]: I've seen him live. 43:47.072 --> 43:50.695 [SPEAKER_01]: Aish eight nine times, probably it's been double life for a lot of a year and a half. 43:51.215 --> 43:55.879 [SPEAKER_01]: So I've seen a lot of Spitzer Jones and I've seen him hit some absolute shots, both in games and MVP. 43:56.360 --> 43:57.460 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's a good athlete too. 43:57.480 --> 44:01.123 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like the power of speed upside there is notable, but what's the contact rate? 44:01.143 --> 44:02.985 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, fifty seven percent right now. 44:03.305 --> 44:03.625 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 44:03.745 --> 44:04.306 [SPEAKER_01]: Or something like that. 44:04.326 --> 44:06.408 [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't looked in the bed, but I know it's below sixty, but 44:07.108 --> 44:09.570 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's one where I can't figure out what the frick to do. 44:11.471 --> 44:14.233 [SPEAKER_03]: I actually think his athleticism goes a little bit underrated. 44:14.373 --> 44:16.754 [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's like an eighty size adjusted athlete. 44:16.774 --> 44:21.878 [SPEAKER_03]: There's some athletic testing data out there on Spencer Jones that is just freakish alien stuff. 44:22.939 --> 44:23.859 [SPEAKER_03]: He plays center field too. 44:24.279 --> 44:25.860 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's it's bad. 44:25.941 --> 44:28.802 [SPEAKER_03]: He is impossibly fast for his size. 44:29.923 --> 44:38.711 [SPEAKER_03]: I, my thing on Spencer Jones is like, if he had like a sixty eight percent contact rate, I'd be super in if he was just breaking out like twenty eight percent of the time. 44:39.271 --> 44:41.533 [SPEAKER_01]: I would talk to you if you talk to me on a roll. 44:41.934 --> 44:42.114 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 44:42.514 --> 44:42.714 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 44:42.974 --> 44:43.195 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 44:43.315 --> 44:44.195 [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, there's. 44:45.407 --> 44:52.914 [SPEAKER_03]: You're trying to forecast the next five, seven years of a player's career and so much can change in that amount of time. 44:53.254 --> 45:04.123 [SPEAKER_03]: So I would never rule out that something clicks for him and he starts making, you know, mid sixties contact and, you know, striking out just upper twenties would be great. 45:04.724 --> 45:04.884 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. 45:05.545 --> 45:11.530 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll I would take like thirty one thirty two at this point from from Joe he's been like thirty six thirty seven thirty eight percent, but 45:11.982 --> 45:21.126 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that bad at Yankees stadium, who Lord, like that could be, that could be, that's just, I mean, as, okay, the baseball fantasy guy in me is like, that's exciting. 45:21.466 --> 45:22.447 [SPEAKER_01]: The red socks fan of me. 45:22.767 --> 45:24.047 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't, I want him to suck. 45:24.547 --> 45:26.348 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't want to deal with that. 45:26.728 --> 45:32.431 [SPEAKER_01]: Imagine if he, if it's imagine if he clicks him and, and judge, geez, that's, no, I don't want to make it for that. 45:32.451 --> 45:33.251 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I see here. 45:33.291 --> 45:34.532 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a luxury for fans. 45:35.112 --> 45:35.832 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, watch out. 45:35.852 --> 45:37.073 [SPEAKER_01]: If you have a big show you bring protection. 45:37.093 --> 45:39.114 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean catchers gear or something to the game. 45:39.134 --> 45:39.294 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 45:39.754 --> 45:42.596 [SPEAKER_01]: You make it you make it hit by a hundred and twenty mile an hour liner. 45:44.237 --> 45:45.857 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, who's a who's next in the West. 45:46.038 --> 45:48.059 [SPEAKER_01]: I got we get a little sidetracked here with it. 45:48.139 --> 45:49.119 [SPEAKER_01]: But good discussion there. 45:49.539 --> 45:58.844 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, of course, tube the two big names in the system outside of Missierowski on the heading side Luis Pena and Hazus Made both on and low A right now. 45:59.444 --> 46:25.605 [SPEAKER_01]: opinion in two hundred plate appearances three or seven three sixty five four ninety seven slash line six on runs thirty two steels eight percent walk rate thirteen and a half percent strikeout rate moderate to in two hundred and sixty two plate appearances slash line of two eighty two three ninety three four thirty two full-harm runs thirty one steels fourteen point nine percent walk rate in an eighteen point seven cents right got right think both guys are 46:26.325 --> 46:48.577 [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty much considered top ten or at least top fifteen pretty universally at this point and there's a pretty fun debate on like what side of you on a new bigger on pain year you bigger on my day and I think it's pretty split right now from what I've been seeing on Twitter and whatnot so I think I'd ask you back being the Milwaukee guy okay what are your thoughts about these guys and are you team pain year you team body right now 46:49.384 --> 46:51.045 [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to think straight about these two. 46:51.085 --> 46:54.448 [SPEAKER_03]: They have me eating my feet and toiling my hair like I've got a crush. 46:55.028 --> 46:56.429 [SPEAKER_03]: As I should, yeah, absolutely. 46:57.030 --> 46:58.091 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I really like them both. 46:58.151 --> 47:05.517 [SPEAKER_03]: I think there's a couple of things about Luis Pena that I've heard in the public sphere that I don't necessarily agree with. 47:05.557 --> 47:11.181 [SPEAKER_03]: I think people see him as maybe a bigger stolen base threat than Hazu Smade. 47:12.162 --> 47:18.386 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, what I've heard from Scouts and other people who have seen him live is that he's Luis Pena's really turning in average run times. 47:19.607 --> 47:28.633 [SPEAKER_03]: and is more of an instinctual base dealer, which isn't, you know, materially different, but I think it does put sort of a ceiling on the stolen base outcome at the major league level. 47:28.673 --> 47:36.177 [SPEAKER_03]: You need sort of a plus or better sprint speed to be any league base dealer at the major league level, just based on the pop times. 47:37.157 --> 47:41.120 [SPEAKER_03]: And then the other is maybe an argument in favor of Luis Pena, which is I think folks 47:42.472 --> 47:47.636 [SPEAKER_03]: See, Hazus Made is a guy with a little bit more underlying pop. 47:48.016 --> 47:53.780 [SPEAKER_03]: Those numbers have come a lot closer together this year than they were in the DSL last year. 47:55.281 --> 47:58.243 [SPEAKER_03]: Hazus Made was turning in elite exits last year. 47:58.643 --> 48:00.404 [SPEAKER_03]: They're a lot closer to each other this year. 48:00.424 --> 48:05.968 [SPEAKER_03]: And so it makes it really hard to choose, I think, Pania has a better hit tool. 48:07.009 --> 48:11.912 [SPEAKER_03]: I think Made is a little bit more explosive, both as a runner and with the underlying pop. 48:12.443 --> 48:13.646 [SPEAKER_03]: But they're not far off on another. 48:13.666 --> 48:19.944 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they're both top ten prospects or really splitting hairs, but I would choose mod A over Pena right now. 48:21.002 --> 48:34.807 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do have paid my day a few spots higher than paying you, but yeah, it's it's it's hard to go either way because they're both such phenomenal prospects and kind of both in the same team that the low levels of Milwaukee are really fun right now. 48:34.827 --> 48:42.830 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk a few more of these guys as well, but having both those guys in the same team right now is really really fun playing on that left side of the in field. 48:43.570 --> 48:45.071 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where these guys wind up. 48:45.271 --> 48:45.471 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, 48:46.888 --> 48:57.663 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you can imagine one of these two say that sure I can't only make a combination as a witch one, so we'll see kind of where they end up longer than it has to move the second base, third base, and even the outfield will see. 48:57.743 --> 49:01.909 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the upside, even though in the power, I think for both 49:02.390 --> 49:29.160 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the power is slept on a little bit more so with pain you're to your point where I think people think there's a bigger power gap between money and pain you know and there was last year but you know kind of my days I don't I want to take a step back maybe it's like you said not as gody as you'd expect him to be after seeing what he did in the DSL last year but then pain you're taking the scent forward and at the department as well so yeah I do lean my day pain you just have a better contact rate by like three percent I believe it was so 49:30.240 --> 49:35.365 [SPEAKER_01]: kind of splitting here as you said to, but yeah, they're both, I mean, I have, let's see, where do I have them right now? 49:35.386 --> 49:39.770 [SPEAKER_01]: I have, we have modest six and opinion nine. 49:39.910 --> 49:42.653 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, they're both, they're both top ten for me. 49:42.713 --> 49:44.956 [SPEAKER_01]: And they could be both top five. 49:44.996 --> 49:50.041 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, Roman Anthony will graduate, you know, next what three weeks or or so. 49:51.242 --> 49:53.524 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you got to set that cluster of the next wave. 49:53.544 --> 50:04.593 [SPEAKER_01]: You got the griffins, you know, walk-out, breeze, mud-a, you go all the Dodger guys, you know, hope and they pala, McGonagall, Clark, Pesayo obviously is up in there too. 50:04.653 --> 50:06.575 [SPEAKER_01]: So really fun next wave here. 50:06.595 --> 50:07.736 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how it plays out. 50:07.776 --> 50:10.758 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think anyone of these guys has said it could be number one honestly. 50:10.818 --> 50:12.279 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 50:12.359 --> 50:17.543 [SPEAKER_03]: Just to put it out there, I think the more likely candidate to stick at short is Monte right now. 50:18.063 --> 50:27.469 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sort of forecasting, Pena as a second basement, which in a weird way sort of gives him maybe a little bit more fantasy appeal, just because second place is so hard to get production from. 50:28.150 --> 50:31.232 [SPEAKER_01]: Especially now, second base is definitely on the downswing right now. 50:31.272 --> 50:34.714 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a rough year for that position, but yeah, that'd be fun. 50:34.754 --> 50:35.775 [SPEAKER_01]: That'd be a fundamental infield. 50:35.815 --> 50:39.157 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the way it ends up with with Pena and Monte up the middle from Milwaukee. 50:39.397 --> 50:40.378 [SPEAKER_01]: It'd be really 50:41.084 --> 50:42.147 [SPEAKER_01]: really fun for sure. 50:42.468 --> 50:43.030 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it would. 50:43.893 --> 50:44.354 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 50:44.695 --> 50:46.020 [SPEAKER_01]: Next one up here. 50:46.040 --> 50:48.107 [SPEAKER_01]: We go over to the hot corner. 50:48.553 --> 50:50.633 [SPEAKER_01]: Brock Wilkins kind of turning things around. 50:50.653 --> 50:57.715 [SPEAKER_01]: Instead of, instead of rough year last year on a lot of fronts, obviously took the fastball to the face, Rogan the year. 50:57.735 --> 51:00.815 [SPEAKER_01]: He only came back super quick from that. 51:00.855 --> 51:03.516 [SPEAKER_01]: It was like two and a half weeks or something like that. 51:04.216 --> 51:14.218 [SPEAKER_01]: But rest of the year, just wasn't the same that we saw kind of the rise at the end of his wake for his tenure into the early part of his mind, like tenure, but then that's kind of got put on hold last year. 51:14.738 --> 51:16.918 [SPEAKER_01]: But turning it around this year, I mean, he's only hitting two, thirty. 51:17.857 --> 51:26.944 [SPEAKER_01]: but three ninety two OBP, five fifty slug, eighteen homerun, seventeen doubles, twenty percent walkerate, only a twenty-six percent strikeout rate. 51:27.444 --> 51:32.648 [SPEAKER_01]: The contact rate's fine as well, seventy-two percent, and only a nine and a half percent strike rate too. 51:32.748 --> 51:41.855 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think the average is a little lower than it probably could be, given where it's at for contact, and just the quality of contact that he has right now. 51:42.515 --> 51:52.652 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're seeing him kind of get back to being that Brock Woken that we a lot of us myself included were kind of buying into the previous year when he was drafted out of wait for us. 51:52.712 --> 51:55.557 [SPEAKER_01]: So are you buying back into Brock Woken right now? 51:56.802 --> 51:58.543 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm trying not to get over my skis. 51:58.603 --> 52:04.067 [SPEAKER_03]: I think maybe the more precious way to put it is I'm giving him a Mulligan for twenty twenty four. 52:04.087 --> 52:18.698 [SPEAKER_03]: He went back so fast from taking a fastball to the face and he talked pretty publicly about how it was difficult to get in the box and see sort of similar pitches on the inner third of the plate and have a competitive at that after that. 52:19.578 --> 52:26.680 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, baseball is such a mental game that I can imagine that super challenging and now we're, you know, about a year removed from that injury. 52:26.700 --> 52:35.081 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and it, you know, it's really encouraging to see I think the, my primary concern has been his bat ball that's seventy three percent contact rate. 52:35.122 --> 52:41.123 [SPEAKER_03]: I think undersells it a little bit because this wing straight rate is just, you know, nine point three percent right now. 52:42.283 --> 52:54.372 [SPEAKER_03]: The other thing that I sort of heard around the Arizona falling because he was out there was he towards the end of the year was just tired and you know, it was kind of telling people my head is pretty much anywhere but baseball right now. 52:54.472 --> 52:57.574 [SPEAKER_03]: He just had another kid with his wife. 52:57.874 --> 53:01.116 [SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of family stuff going on, a lot of injury stuff. 53:01.276 --> 53:04.379 [SPEAKER_03]: I would say I'm back in on Wilkins, but I'm trying not to get over my skis. 53:04.459 --> 53:07.000 [SPEAKER_03]: It's more accurately just a mulligan for last year. 53:07.020 --> 53:09.082 [SPEAKER_03]: I would like to pretend that last year didn't happen. 53:10.633 --> 53:11.374 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely. 53:11.394 --> 53:19.260 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of was saying that last year too when he was struggling, yeah, I dropped and done my rankings kind of had to, but yeah, I wasn't like killing him and my rankings either. 53:19.300 --> 53:31.150 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think I just kept keeping him higher than most because like, all right, I was believing in the games we saw the previous year where he was getting, you know, making more contact, let's strike out more walks while still maintaining the high level of power. 53:31.690 --> 53:32.770 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was buying to that. 53:32.810 --> 53:33.151 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a guy. 53:33.171 --> 53:39.193 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this guy can be a two, fifty hitter with a higher OPP and thirty plus bombs in that third base spot. 53:39.253 --> 53:40.393 [SPEAKER_01]: I still think he can be that guy. 53:41.033 --> 53:46.215 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm definitely I don't have him top a hundred right now, but I think he's pretty close to it. 53:46.762 --> 53:49.064 [SPEAKER_01]: for me, probably like that one, fifteen to one, twenty range. 53:49.264 --> 53:49.484 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 53:49.604 --> 53:52.126 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think you could be happy to have a hundred again, you know, buddy into the season. 53:52.146 --> 53:54.347 [SPEAKER_01]: I think this definitely that talent in there. 53:54.407 --> 53:59.550 [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe you'll have him right next to next to Madde and Payne and that infield here. 53:59.850 --> 54:02.132 [SPEAKER_01]: They'll he'll be up, you know, a year or two sooner than those guys. 54:02.412 --> 54:02.652 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 54:03.153 --> 54:03.393 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 54:03.573 --> 54:05.114 [SPEAKER_03]: I think you're right on. 54:05.154 --> 54:10.597 [SPEAKER_03]: I think a top one hundred placement by end of season is definitely within the really interesting thing here. 54:10.637 --> 54:12.719 [SPEAKER_03]: And I haven't looked at his numbers and I don't know a month. 54:14.020 --> 54:20.526 [SPEAKER_03]: His swing rate at thirty four point five percent is really really low and that's a big change that I'm seeing you over year. 54:21.087 --> 54:28.394 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sort of thinking of that is like a band aid lowering your swing rate and being a little bit more selective at what you're swinging at. 54:28.714 --> 54:30.996 [SPEAKER_03]: It can result in more strikeouts in his case. 54:31.036 --> 54:32.698 [SPEAKER_03]: He's walking twenty percent of the time. 54:33.298 --> 54:37.783 [SPEAKER_03]: So really benefiting from just not being out of the zone at all and being extremely judicious. 54:38.283 --> 54:42.370 [SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't necessarily always hold up against AAA and MLB arms. 54:42.770 --> 54:49.661 [SPEAKER_03]: So it'll be his transition back to, you know, against more aggressive pitching will be interesting to follow. 54:50.811 --> 54:51.792 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, into your point. 54:52.052 --> 54:59.058 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thirty four and a half percent swing rate last year was about forty and a half percent and twenty twenty three with that was a smaller sample. 54:59.099 --> 55:00.700 [SPEAKER_01]: That was also about forty and a half percent. 55:00.740 --> 55:06.585 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's down about six percent in terms of swing rate this year, but yeah, I'm definitely buying back into work. 55:06.625 --> 55:07.706 [SPEAKER_01]: I've always been a woken guy. 55:07.726 --> 55:09.988 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's good to see him kind of write the ship. 55:10.689 --> 55:11.510 [SPEAKER_01]: So far this year. 55:12.181 --> 55:13.842 [SPEAKER_01]: and get back in that top of hundred discussion. 55:14.462 --> 55:18.323 [SPEAKER_01]: And this next guy, I think, is certain to get into that top of her discussion as well. 55:19.084 --> 55:21.545 [SPEAKER_01]: Marco, is it dingus or dingus? 55:21.565 --> 55:22.745 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember, I think it's dingus? 55:23.225 --> 55:24.026 [SPEAKER_01]: It is dingus. 55:24.046 --> 55:24.126 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 55:24.166 --> 55:25.606 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a heart G in there. 55:25.766 --> 55:25.926 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 55:25.966 --> 55:26.106 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 55:26.207 --> 55:27.067 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was thinking. 55:27.727 --> 55:49.911 [SPEAKER_01]: Marco Dingis has been one of the better breakout prospects, especially at the catcher spot this year between low A and high A, two hundred and twenty plate appearances is three thirty seven four thirty six five sixty nine slash line eleven doubles nine bombs five steels thirteen point six percent walker eight fifteen point nine percent strikeout rates. 55:50.531 --> 55:54.592 [SPEAKER_01]: I think this guy I mean he's definitely rising up profit right using the hurry. 55:55.492 --> 56:02.579 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he was in a lot of like top four hundred, half a hundred early in the year or to start the year if he was, it was like the back end of it. 56:02.960 --> 56:08.685 [SPEAKER_01]: And now I've seen more than one person talk about this guy being either top a hundred right now or getting damn close to it. 56:08.765 --> 56:14.791 [SPEAKER_01]: So are you buying the the Marco didn't just kind of break out here? 56:15.452 --> 56:16.752 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yeah, I am. 56:17.293 --> 56:20.453 [SPEAKER_03]: When he was drafted out of Florida State, he was really just a bat. 56:20.613 --> 56:22.254 [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't, he was sort of positionless. 56:22.274 --> 56:23.554 [SPEAKER_03]: He was nominally a catcher. 56:24.374 --> 56:28.456 [SPEAKER_03]: And the Bruce said, you know, we see enough in the bat to fit you in somewhere. 56:28.476 --> 56:32.917 [SPEAKER_03]: The big development is that he seems potentially serviceable as a catcher. 56:32.977 --> 56:35.397 [SPEAKER_03]: So a true position now is great. 56:36.078 --> 56:38.078 [SPEAKER_03]: He's always been an excellent hitter. 56:38.158 --> 56:39.759 [SPEAKER_03]: We're seeing him get the power in games. 56:40.219 --> 56:41.779 [SPEAKER_03]: The bat's ball is fine. 56:42.579 --> 56:44.140 [SPEAKER_03]: Again, he's maybe a little bit old. 56:45.240 --> 56:51.402 [SPEAKER_03]: for single A, so I'm paying a little bit more attention to what's going on at high A and the results there have been excellent as well. 56:51.522 --> 56:54.403 [SPEAKER_03]: His WRC plus went from one seventy five. 56:54.603 --> 56:56.463 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, from two hundred to one fifty. 56:57.023 --> 56:59.584 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, pretty good results. 57:00.064 --> 57:03.325 [SPEAKER_03]: The other thing that's really interesting is Brenton Del Quiaro. 57:03.705 --> 57:06.726 [SPEAKER_03]: He is the assistant director of player development for the brewers. 57:07.866 --> 57:10.327 [SPEAKER_03]: Was on Arm Layton's pod, the call up. 57:10.947 --> 57:17.014 [SPEAKER_03]: doing sort of a breakdown of the brewer system and reported that dinges kind of cruising speed for bats speed. 57:17.034 --> 57:24.582 [SPEAKER_03]: So right around seventy seven seventy eight miles an hour, which is an elite mark that would be a top five number in major league baseball. 57:25.303 --> 57:28.987 [SPEAKER_03]: I have some skepticism about whether or not that's you know accurate just because. 57:30.408 --> 57:36.611 [SPEAKER_03]: swing speed bat speed at the major league level is measured by Hawkeye and this is off of a blast sensor. 57:36.811 --> 57:39.132 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, some differences in accuracy there. 57:39.752 --> 57:43.874 [SPEAKER_03]: And there was sort of before bat speed became public information. 57:44.554 --> 57:49.076 [SPEAKER_03]: The brewer is did report, you know, an average bat speed for Jackson, Churrio of like, eighty one miles an hour. 57:49.796 --> 57:59.540 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I have some suspicion there, but he still a bat speed demon and he has a position now and those are two huge developments for him as a guy that was pretty strictly just a bat in college. 58:00.722 --> 58:02.042 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely. 58:02.242 --> 58:03.743 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have him top a hundred yourself? 58:04.683 --> 58:05.323 [SPEAKER_03]: Not quite yet. 58:06.023 --> 58:11.604 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to see him do it for a little bit longer at high A, but it's getting really challenging to argue with the numbers. 58:12.604 --> 58:13.284 [SPEAKER_01]: It certainly is. 58:13.324 --> 58:20.045 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, him and like Edward, so there's like three big catcher kind of breakouts right now in the lower levels. 58:20.686 --> 58:28.727 [SPEAKER_01]: Edward, a tie-y who I have top a hundred now, a reneal Rodriguez with the cardinals, and then Markle Dingis with the with the Brewers here three. 58:29.905 --> 58:32.286 [SPEAKER_01]: This really, this catcher spot is actually pretty loaded. 58:32.346 --> 58:35.147 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll Freddo do know another fun young catcher. 58:35.167 --> 58:42.309 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, you get the bigger names at the top, you get the bio steros, the pecios, the percenios, you know, if you call it teal, Harry Ford, those guys. 58:42.389 --> 58:48.331 [SPEAKER_01]: But if these gonna three, really rising up, breaking that, yeah, I don't have him top a hundred yet either. 58:48.451 --> 58:50.571 [SPEAKER_01]: Only one of the three I have, top a hundred is tight. 58:51.212 --> 58:55.453 [SPEAKER_01]: Who's an ad you overall, I think then just could get in that top a hundred range. 58:55.937 --> 59:01.819 [SPEAKER_01]: But for sure, if he continues because that blend of solid contact and pop can run a little bit too. 59:01.899 --> 59:07.501 [SPEAKER_01]: We had a little bit there, though, I don't think it would be more like a five steel guy, but just something than that department as well. 59:07.861 --> 59:08.321 [SPEAKER_01]: It's this stuff. 59:08.361 --> 59:10.042 [SPEAKER_01]: We are really fun young. 59:10.302 --> 59:15.403 [SPEAKER_01]: It's another fun young prospect in this Milwaukee system, which is probably one of the better ones in baseball. 59:15.943 --> 59:16.944 [SPEAKER_01]: I think at this point. 59:17.504 --> 59:17.704 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 59:18.310 --> 59:20.031 [SPEAKER_01]: But why us, but I think so too. 59:20.691 --> 59:20.851 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 59:21.151 --> 59:22.712 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you've a right to be biased. 59:22.792 --> 59:25.213 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I should have said the same thing with the red socks, but it's true. 59:25.233 --> 59:25.593 [SPEAKER_01]: It's true. 59:25.633 --> 59:25.933 [SPEAKER_01]: It's true. 59:25.953 --> 59:27.854 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter if you're a fan of the team or not. 59:27.874 --> 59:28.014 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 59:28.074 --> 59:38.218 [SPEAKER_03]: So I can see all three of those guys that you named run regas, tight and dangerous ending up sort of back half top one hundred guys went all of a sudden done. 59:38.238 --> 59:38.699 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 59:38.739 --> 59:39.259 [SPEAKER_01]: I think of the year. 59:39.792 --> 59:41.332 [SPEAKER_01]: hundred percent totally agree there. 59:41.352 --> 59:43.993 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's close that with one more here. 59:44.013 --> 59:46.974 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, this, again, a really fun system. 59:47.294 --> 01:00:01.817 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of other great names we haven't even talked about, but what's the one name we haven't talked about yet in this Milwaukee system back that you think is a great spy right now who you think could really pop off the rest of this year or just moving forward in general. 01:00:02.417 --> 01:00:04.278 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know what, I'll do you two better. 01:00:04.298 --> 01:00:05.919 [SPEAKER_03]: I have three names here. 01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:10.202 [SPEAKER_03]: One is Tyson Harden, who was a twelve for under last year and is pitching extremely well. 01:00:10.742 --> 01:00:15.786 [SPEAKER_03]: So far this year, right hander, good fastball, good slider, getting good results. 01:00:16.266 --> 01:00:21.749 [SPEAKER_03]: He is, you know, I would probably treat him similar to Geron Watts Brown in terms of sleeper arms. 01:00:22.250 --> 01:00:25.552 [SPEAKER_03]: So do a little bit of digging in there sort of, you know, on your own time. 01:00:25.972 --> 01:00:35.886 [SPEAKER_03]: The second one is Coleman Crow, which was, I believe that was the first trade that the David Stearns and Matt Arnold, sort of respected front offices made after Stearns departure. 01:00:37.268 --> 01:00:39.211 [SPEAKER_03]: He is back from Tommy John. 01:00:39.251 --> 01:00:41.954 [SPEAKER_03]: He just got promoted to AAA earlier this week. 01:00:42.655 --> 01:00:44.357 [SPEAKER_03]: And the curve ball is magnificent. 01:00:44.417 --> 01:00:45.898 [SPEAKER_03]: He's getting really excellent results. 01:00:46.339 --> 01:00:54.226 [SPEAKER_03]: There's probably too much pitching in Milwaukee right now for him to have any sort of significant role, but he is pitching really well and I'm buying it. 01:00:54.766 --> 01:00:57.509 [SPEAKER_03]: And then the last one is Josh Adam Sheffsky. 01:00:57.949 --> 01:01:04.755 [SPEAKER_03]: The only reason that I somewhat confident in the pronunciation there is that seems like a very German sort of Wisconsin name. 01:01:05.856 --> 01:01:11.861 [SPEAKER_03]: It is spelled A-D-A-N-C-Z-E-W-S-K-I. 01:01:11.881 --> 01:01:16.724 [SPEAKER_03]: He has done some pretty crazy stuff after being a fifteen-throunder as a prep. 01:01:18.646 --> 01:01:25.551 [SPEAKER_03]: He's more hit over power right now, but if he grows into more underlying or game power, I think he's going to fly up rankings. 01:01:25.851 --> 01:01:29.274 [SPEAKER_03]: It's one of the better hit tools I've seen, you know, a player this age. 01:01:30.054 --> 01:01:35.839 [SPEAKER_03]: and I'm really excited about all three of these guys, Tyson Harden, Josh Adam Chewski and Coleman Crow. 01:01:36.900 --> 01:01:38.661 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Adam Chewski's contact rates. 01:01:38.681 --> 01:01:41.483 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what I'm referring to me, but I remember that I'm being pretty damn good. 01:01:41.823 --> 01:01:44.766 [SPEAKER_01]: Last time I was looking, and I think there's, I think there's some sticky pop there, too. 01:01:44.786 --> 01:01:52.812 [SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't really shown it this year, which he got, yeah, just two home runs so far and it's only been twenty four games though, but yeah, definitely, you know, 01:01:53.573 --> 01:01:57.477 [SPEAKER_01]: One of the more high floor kind of hitters for that age. 01:01:58.058 --> 01:02:02.102 [SPEAKER_01]: If you game and say something like that, but yeah, I feel pretty good about that guy as well. 01:02:02.122 --> 01:02:07.528 [SPEAKER_01]: That's when I have kind of pushed up my rankings to and I'll always add one name real quick here before we get out of here. 01:02:08.028 --> 01:02:11.289 [SPEAKER_01]: I got that I was too low on in my FAPD rankings last year. 01:02:11.309 --> 01:02:19.191 [SPEAKER_01]: I like Bryce message, you know, in nineteen, you know, righty six four, you know, pretty good frame already, like you can add a little bit of muscle to that. 01:02:19.911 --> 01:02:22.211 [SPEAKER_01]: This year is going to, you know, sets have been great. 01:02:22.312 --> 01:02:22.872 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been okay. 01:02:22.912 --> 01:02:27.513 [SPEAKER_01]: Three nine two DRA, one fifteen whip, twelve percent walk rate, twenty four percent. 01:02:27.553 --> 01:02:30.233 [SPEAKER_01]: K rate, it's a little bit of a nanny's fastball. 01:02:30.554 --> 01:02:32.134 [SPEAKER_01]: Get two above average breakers. 01:02:33.095 --> 01:02:43.566 [SPEAKER_01]: really kind of depends on him developing that change of a little bit, maybe you know, improving the command and control, straight throwing a bit there, but a lot of projection, a lot of upside there with Bryce message. 01:02:43.647 --> 01:02:48.132 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's the name I've been kind of steadily pushing up my rankings as well. 01:02:48.672 --> 01:02:49.673 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's going to wrap us up. 01:02:50.093 --> 01:02:50.334 [SPEAKER_01]: Back. 01:02:50.394 --> 01:02:51.174 [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for joining me. 01:02:51.635 --> 01:02:53.256 [SPEAKER_01]: Always a pleasure talking with you. 01:02:53.536 --> 01:02:56.759 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the fun system that they're getting together with Milwaukee. 01:02:56.779 --> 01:02:59.922 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm getting to tell 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