[SPEAKER_00]: Think of these three off-roaders like you would eggs.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a soft, medium, and a hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in this video slash podcast, we're gonna take them into Andre's pit.
[SPEAKER_00]: But more importantly, we're gonna do it with Andre, who's with me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Woohoo!
[SPEAKER_00]: Andre, so we have three.
[SPEAKER_00]: pretty substantial off-roaders at somewhat kind of compete lined up against each other and what are we going to do in this video besides taking them into your pit?
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a fun selection dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's introduce the contestants.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So here all the way on this side we have the brand new 2026 Honda Passport Trail Sport.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's in this sunset orange color, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the color Andre.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and we're going to
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, because this video, because it doesn't have a low range.
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't have a low range, it doesn't have a locking differential, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: It does have really afrodi tires, but the tires are not very huge, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is one of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And how much, just talking about MSRP, let's not hold it to the end.
[SPEAKER_00]: How much is this guy?
[SPEAKER_00]: So this guy with a fully loaded package, it's about 54,000 bucks, but they start around like 46, 47, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And the cool thing is that we're gonna find out is Honda has figured out like the rest in the industry, the people like not just the look of the off-roader, but also its capability, the substance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and for a long time, let's face it, the passport sorta kinda looked like an off-roader, but it didn't have all the off-road credit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're gonna actually show you everything that Honda's added to it to make it much more off-rody.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why we're calling it soft, because,
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it does have some of the cred, it doesn't have all of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's next?
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So in the middle here, this is the medium, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: The medium is the new Toyota Land Cruiser.
[SPEAKER_00]: This happens to be one of the more option the ones, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's in the middle because it does have those several items we talked about.
[SPEAKER_00]: It has the low range for by force system.
[SPEAKER_00]: It has the rear locking differential,
[SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't have a very aggressive tire.
[SPEAKER_00]: the tire on this land cruiser.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of an old season-ish, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're basically reviewing these the way they came from the factory.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the way you would buy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now normally, the land cruiser starts at what?
[SPEAKER_00]: 58,000 now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, 58-ish.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this one has tested is a whopping 70,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which is still about 20,000 less than the old outgoing 200 series.
[SPEAKER_00]: Many people call this
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll go inside each one of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll show you all the features, talk about all the capability.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then here the hard on this side is a new Ford Bronco.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the Ford or this is also the Everglades edition or trim that they don't make anymore, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this was especially a disunity built to go a mudding, I guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what works for mudding also works, you know, here in the Colorado Rockies, we've got to mention the color.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the color in the Lancus or Colors?
[SPEAKER_00]: So the Lancus is smoky blue, and it's a two-tone gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_00]: gorgeous just combination for the land cruiser and of course the Ford Bronco here is a ruptured green so all of these have kind of fun colors right now we're calling this of course the hard boiled egg or hard off rotor because it only not only does it have 35 it's the only one with 35s yes it also has a middle a rear and a front locker it's got a winch from the factory it also has a snorkel and you know it's a hard car off rotor when it's got a snorkel on
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's also kind of a little bit more adventurous model because you can remove the top basically, you know, the front panels and also the rear panels.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can remove the doors a little bit easier than most here in the Broncos.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can remove the top.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's the only convertible of the bunch and this one we actually bought with our own money because we always have to have an off-roader in our fleet.
[SPEAKER_00]: We paid $57,000 for this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of in between the Passport and the Land Cruiser as an as tested price.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Before we concentrate on the first one the soft world, why don't we go under the hood and show all three of them with what's under the hood?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll open up the hood and you show
[SPEAKER_00]: Passport please.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this is really fun dude because they all have kind of different takes on the power train and Yeah, they're quite different and they have different efficiencies and just kind of different setups when it comes to Power so Here underneath the hood of the Honda Passport It's a traditional power train.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say 3.5 liter V6 It's naturally aspirated.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are no turbochargers of any kind
[SPEAKER_00]: and it's got a 10 speed automatic and this engine has 285 horsepower, 262 pound feet of torque.
[SPEAKER_00]: So not a lot of torque, but nonetheless quite a lot of power and the government rates at 19 city, 24 highway and 21 combined.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of a ubiquitous engine that Honda uses in a lot of things.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'd find this in the ridge line as well, you'd find it, I think, in the pilot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's in a lot of different vehicles.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you hate turbos, this is the way to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you hate force cylinders.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the way to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Out of the three here, this is the one.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I like this power train up here at Altitude.
[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of want to turbo because we're losing a lot of...
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, air density, which is less horsepower, but it's smooth, it's quiet, it's a little growly compared to the other two.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a bad powertrain, and it's been around a lot, and it's been around a lot, and a lot of different vehicles.
[SPEAKER_00]: So from a reliability standpoint, this is certainly the one that I would cast my vote for.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would agree 100%.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, let's see what Toyota packs under its hood.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, every tour to starting in 2026 comes as only a hybrid and this is no exception, Andre.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is the Land Cruiser Power Train, which is a combination of turbocharged 4 cylinder engine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh look I need a prop stick for this and you can tell we've already taken it off road.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little muddy That's a little there of course, we can take it off road.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's what we do to you if I let you check it out Altiafile.com.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so but this is also a hybrid the only hybrid of these three that we're looking at
[SPEAKER_00]: And the hybrid, and of course the 8 speed automatic, the hybrid system adds more power, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's the highest horsepower of the bunch, 326 horsepower, 465 pound feet of torque, massive amount of torque, and the government rates this at 22, sorry, 22 city, 25 highway and 23 combined.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's also the most efficient, at least on paper,
[SPEAKER_00]: of the bunch.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and all three of these are all wheel drive.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can have them in all wheel drive or rear wheel drive, except for the passport, that one is only all wheel drive.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't get that in real life.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is full-time 4x4 too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the length is a little bit unique in how it kind of positions itself.
[SPEAKER_00]: in the Toyota lineup.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, it's a kind of the Broncos hood.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's two engine options, and we have the smaller the two, which I can tell you, it's plenty powerful.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had the first addition, which had the six cylinder, and personally, I don't miss the power in this four cylinder turbo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I think this is kind of a...
[SPEAKER_00]: a surprise, a pleasant surprise, I would say.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's once even dirty, aren't you?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this is, I mean, we really take a this one off of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You could tell we all know it because we don't clean this.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a surprise, dude, because this is a 2.3 liter, so the smallest displacement of the bunch, but still, if you use premium fuel, 300 horsepower, that's the rating, and 325,
[SPEAKER_00]: similar to the 10-speed, that's also available in the Honda, but kind of a different orientation, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: That V6 in the Honda is kind of positioned in a cross way, but this engine is in line, so it's basically like a truck, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So the engine is kind of light over the door, it's only mean exactly, and a lot of power in this one, very surprising.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's the horsepower again?
[SPEAKER_00]: If you look on me, I wish you would not have asked me that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we can look, we can inside, there's Monroe, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this tells me here, for the centre, and there's 18 cities, 17 highway and 18 combined.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's the thirstiest of the bunch.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's probably because of the tires, because of how square it is, so probably the worst efficiency here.
[SPEAKER_00]: And before we go off-road in the passport and go inside of it, let's look at the back and see how much room there is in all three of these, because let's face it.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're buying this, you're not just buying it to go off-road, but you're buying it because of the utility, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: This happens to our vehicles that are often used to carry stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we just actually carry the smaller refrigerator to the ranch and fit nicely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so this is the passport, I mean, it's too rose only, so not a three row, but this also offers a huge amount of kind of a trunk space here, humongous.
[SPEAKER_00]: You also have power here, so in the back, you do have an outlet for 150 watts, not a lot, but still you could charge something using this outlet here.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a 60-40 folding seat, which is okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then does it have a spare tire?
[SPEAKER_00]: We can always look for that, because off-road there's needs spare tires.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you must.
[SPEAKER_00]: You must have spare tire.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, there is a hitch down here on the Honda, the tire.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where is it?
[SPEAKER_00]: This one doesn't have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah ha, but there is a solution.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, our friends at modern spare.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, modern spare.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really great company because about half of new vehicles actually don't come with spare tires.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if that is a problem and if you really would like a well-engineered spare, check out modern spare.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got a feeling that it needs a spare tire, especially if you're off-roading.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'd really want one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm wondering if since this is kind of a larger, slightly wider tire, or Honda, if that's the reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because of the offer to why.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's so 5,000 pounds, but no brake control, no brake controller.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have told with this so you can check it out at altifl.com, it does have a 710 connector so it's already set up except you need to bring your own brake controller for the trailer.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well let's compare that to what tuna is offering in this
[SPEAKER_00]: Land Cruiser and we just did a video talking about how successful this Land Cruiser is because in the past they used to sell about 4,200 series Land Cruiser per year per year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now they sell about 4,250 series Land Cruiser a month which is a substantial difference.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah that's a success as far as
[SPEAKER_00]: In any book, this is kind of strange.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'll also a huge amount of space.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a little bit more than in the passport But look dude, there's handles.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's 10 of them in here.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's 10.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's gone crazy with handles.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god 10 grab handles in this vehicle and cup holders for the third row That doesn't exist.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it exists in Japan
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you lose some space because of the hybrid battery, which is right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so there's a little bit of a...
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little tiny copy on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look how cute that is.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you get through it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You get your little like first aid kit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: How cute.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's so cute.
[SPEAKER_00]: You could probably put a couple of chopsticks in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, I believe this one does have a spare tire.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's take a peek underneath.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then towing rating, 6000.
[SPEAKER_00]: And a brake controller.
[SPEAKER_00]: and the brake controller so this is actually I mean it does cost more money but it is more capable you can kind of see there's a spare tire right there wow there's a cover here that's a protecting the hitch and there's a also wiring here and the brake controller included a towing condom Andre yes kind of how crazy is that yeah that's weird all right now the the
[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas it's tire-on and sleeves like an off-road or shirt, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's also the only one with 40s.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got the 35s?
[SPEAKER_00]: 35s, sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 40s would be something else.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you've got these massive, good-year territory MTs.
[SPEAKER_00]: MTs?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: On the back, and then, of course, to head to put the little backup camera, poking through the wheel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very handy, but not handy for towing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean this one is not set up for towing in any case, but if you did put the hitch down here that camera will never see it So this is not the tower of the bunch the other problem that's not great is the way that this opens up It does this weird thing where it does half the tailgate and then the other half and then you got to close it in the right direction And it certainly has a least amount of space of all three of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: as you can tell.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we've got this interesting feature right here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never understood this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never used it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's got this tray that pulls out like a little slider.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how does this work?
[SPEAKER_00]: It works like... Do you have never used it?
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it pulls out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, maybe it doesn't pull out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it does pull out.
[SPEAKER_00]: This definitely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, here it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there we got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a handle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never done that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I guess this is where you cook your... Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is where you do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: and sit underneath a little space.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've owned it for almost a year and I've never done this actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also a 40, 60 split, which is nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, that's really nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, it's like I said, it's the only convertible of the bunch.
[SPEAKER_00]: Plenty of recovery hooks back here.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is by far a very purpose-built machine to go off road.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you do have a 12-volt back there, and you do have,
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll rub you over here, a little light, a little light, but that fully loaded land cruiser offers about 2.4 kilowatt of power, and this is just not very much, but it's still something at least for your accessories.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, well let's jump in the past fort, and let's talk about the interior space.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to, since you're the tallest of us, you want to jump in the back and see how you fit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's take a look at the Honda again and then we'll talk about the interior and then we'll take it off road, for all of you guys who are waiting for us to go off road.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to open up the rear door?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Ian's got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so, you know, one thing about this passport, dude, is that it's wide enough and big enough for even some of the biggest dudes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, very nice, lots of headspace, lots of knee room for me, lots of width, I don't feel like I'm too cramped here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at all those controls back there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Plenty of, it's a three-zone or four-zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's four, no, it's three zones, so there's two zones up front and one other back here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here it sits in the back and you will receive a board that is a 150 watt outlet here.
[SPEAKER_00]: So actually, really livable, nice space.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do these reply in these seats?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it will be back here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: they do not recline no no but it's plenty plenty comfortable yeah let's get in the front dude alright let's get in the front this is I think one of my favorite interiors mainly because of three reasons a number one
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the color combination of the chocolate with these, you know, inserts and the seat.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's well done.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really well done.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the fact that's number one.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the fact that we have real buttons for everything, including HVAC, including volume, including real buttons in the steering wheel.
[SPEAKER_00]: If fifty four thousand dollars, you get both heated and that's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Since you get a heated steering wheel right there, that's nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course cruise control paddle shifters here nice steering wheel and you get very comfortable seats So I think these are very comfortable and look at this
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't drive on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just took this on a road trip to Moab and back, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I drove like 6,700 miles over a weekend.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like 300 miles.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was extremely comfortable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Never felt like I was in any pain.
[SPEAKER_00]: Never had any pressure points.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's really good.
[SPEAKER_00]: There were some things I learned about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: First, this push button transmission is a pain in the butt.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they've been doing this for a while, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So basically, I push button here in the center console.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, this is where the drive modes are down here.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is where I call it a soft rotor, because if you show them, I think they'll pop up there.
[SPEAKER_00]: You see, you've got these different drive modes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll move the cable, I'll move the drive mode.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got eco, snow, trail, sand, and tow.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you'll know there's no...
[SPEAKER_00]: There's all like hard rock crawl.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's nothing like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no four wheel low range.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no low range buttons here.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a hill to sun control, which is nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other thing I figured out about this, let me show you is, it's got this phone charger, but you kind of throw it at like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just kind of goes right on there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's really not much of a kind of wobbly.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of wobbly.
[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes you'll, if you're not carefully, you'll do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And nothing really gets charged.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know about you, but these things, like 90% of the time, they work for like five minutes and then they stop or they don't work.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is it with this Qi wireless charging where nobody can make a work?
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you found that to be the base?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really hard to get them to work.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was listening to our friend Sam Spotcast, Bill Berings, and they were saying that 2.0 standard is out, and it has MagSafe magnet, so that should work better at least for iPhone people.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: How about the cameras?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's really good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not a humongous thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is also weird, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: This little cut there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, why is there a bubble?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but there's plenty of visibility for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the visibility is good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what this one does.
[SPEAKER_00]: It shows your blood on dirt.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's on your side.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can hear that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's on your wipe it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can wipe it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is helping.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's underneath.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, it's really crunchy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me make it worse.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's getting better.
[SPEAKER_00]: A little bit better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Please don't break it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to break it.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a little hungry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's a lot better.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just a really pleasant place to spend a lot of time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in terms of driving, it drives really well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is not a sports car.
[SPEAKER_00]: We drove from Moab to Montrose, the backway.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's some beautiful windy roads, there's some big asspents.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it does swallow a little bit when you start to get into like these.
[SPEAKER_00]: you know very swift turns you can really feel the fact that it's taller and the tires on this aren't exactly great for you know on road use when you get into kind of like some faster turns but for the most part it's a very comfortable ride.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, now we need to figure out if it's comfortable.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also figured out the camera button is on the back of the stock right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I didn't know this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not sure I love this little tiny volume knob.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very small and there's no tuning knob where how do I tune my radio?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's no unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Ian, do you want to jump out?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's drive it off-road.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so we're going to take it into your pit Andre.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and we're going to descend via logs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: correct yes so being that we're calling in kind of this soft egg soft off rotor you would think that this should be the most comfortable right you would think we haven't here down of course no and I don't want to wear down because oh gee this is not the best no I am getting a lot of it's not great well I'm trying to go slowly
[SPEAKER_00]: the headrest is nice and soft.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is pretty extreme, but still, it's not the softest.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not the most, obviously suspension travel.
[SPEAKER_00]: That comes down to how much
[SPEAKER_00]: how much articulation we have, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Luckily, we're going to go up rocks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now the good news is they have given it full underbody protection or mostly full underbody protection.
[SPEAKER_00]: But here's an issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: Only about 8.3 inches of ground clearance, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is not massive.
[SPEAKER_00]: No ground clearance.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not going to be scraped free, I fear.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to go straight up here and you'll show them your little like here, I'll show them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got a little inclinometer that tells you pitch and roll, which is nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm using my camera as I'm trying to go very, very slowly, so kind of crawling speed.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is actually pretty useful.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they are.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that beeping of course, but I'm not sure you can turn that off, maybe there's a way to turn it.
[SPEAKER_00]: My parking sensor.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's always a problem with off-roaders.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll slip there.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's doing it, you gotta admit it's doing it, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm expecting a big bang, but no, it's a thing, huh?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I may have picked the right line, the right line.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, that's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: But did you see how it was a little jerky?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm trying to maintain a constant speed.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was difficult.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this passport continually surprises Andre.
[SPEAKER_00]: It always surprises me, you know, you think to this, you think this is just, you know, some like grocery getter
[SPEAKER_00]: Kid mover you know what I mean and then eventually you take it into something like the rocks and it just says no sweat I can do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is nice But now the biggest test of traction.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have to take it into into the trenches you want to try before we do that You want to well let's try that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious approach into part-train go so we can also do that not afraid Roman
[SPEAKER_00]: Not great in this passport.
[SPEAKER_00]: So these are the trenches.
[SPEAKER_00]: In other words, they're also called elephant steps And what it does is it tests a vehicle's off-road ability because it gets one or two wheels in the air And then let's see if it can actually send power to where it needs to and this is IVTM4 That's the name of their Oh Oh, we'll try it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we'll try it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's trying.
[SPEAKER_00]: It figured it out Also, I'm in trail mode, which is good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, once again, a little bit of our proximity sensor, a little bit of wheel spin, and then you kind of pull through.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, let's still eat and we'll try approaching departure because this is where it may.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to go lava?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're going to lava lane.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a really nice course.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be built back here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they bit for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thank you David.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you Roman for naming it after me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is my pet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is your pet.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no groomed house.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's Nathan's crack.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's in the heart.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's in the heart of the horse.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey Ian, tell us about the hit.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to come towards the nose here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're beeping.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we hitting?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we may make it, Andre.
[SPEAKER_00]: Full on beeping.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, E-close, again.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's saying close, we're close in the back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: But no hitting, look at that.
[SPEAKER_00]: No hitting, so this is actually...
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a very long wheelbase, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Which actually helps.
[SPEAKER_00]: Once again, it surprises.
[SPEAKER_00]: and they just applied a little bit of accelerator.
[SPEAKER_00]: The tires started to grab a little bit and we pulled through.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's very nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is very nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, for a soft, four-year-old egg, it's actually pretty good.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually pretty good, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: A Honda has done a good job.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if they gave it, like a Subaru's got an overnight and she's a ground clearance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I want a Honda.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that comes up.
[SPEAKER_00]: because it has to do with fuel economy, the higher you taller you make it, the worse the fuel economy, but now that our president has gotten rid of all the fuel economy standards, I say you put some 44s on it, and from the factor, it just goes forward.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, they are, they do participate in the Baja racing, you know, with their trophy truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so why not bring that technology into the, into here?
[SPEAKER_00]: 44s and a supercharger.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's where I'm at with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, let's hit their land cruiser and see how that is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to say, I think this is one of the best looking ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: And my question for you on Jay's, the anchors are comes with these little squinty lights or the round lights, which you'll get better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gosh, I think a little bit more old school right with the round headlamp, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that might be a little bit better.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, jump in.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so let's do the same choreography, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I go in the backseat first.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, like keep in mind, yes, tested, we're at,
[SPEAKER_00]: 70,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're way above, as far as we're, we're basically 16,000 more than the passport.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh wow, Roman, so immediately I can, sorry, I noticed that, I don't have as much leg space.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, is this where you normally sit though?
[SPEAKER_00]: You're in driving this, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but this seat is kind of, it's all the way back.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all the way back.
[SPEAKER_00]: But look what you do have.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sit up, would you?
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yes, so I can recline, I can sit uncomfortably, or I can sit comfortably, by reclining.
[SPEAKER_00]: elbow room, but my leg room is not great.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's leg room in the second row.
[SPEAKER_00]: How would it if I do this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that better?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's way better.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the Roman look, there's kind of a big hump here in the middle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Honda, it wasn't this pronounced.
[SPEAKER_00]: I felt a little bit more comfortable in Honda than this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're also looking at three zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a control.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a whole climate control here.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have all kinds of power outlets here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Trying to get a good view.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, see, I'll see all that here.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's take a look at the front.
[SPEAKER_00]: okay you want to get it out of the sun again and we can yeah talk about it around here all the grab handle you see this yeah there's two up front here which is crazy everybody has two grab handles okay well we have definitely jumped into the medium world egg here because immediately there's a lot more going on in terms of yeah let me let me turn this around so we're not in the sun of course the land cruiser is an iconic name
[SPEAKER_00]: the dates back, a long way.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was in 1958.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a 1950 edition.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have both a heated steering wheel ventilated and heated seats just like the passport.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the shifter a lot more.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so this is a more traditional console shifter here.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have a 4-high and 4-low and a center locker and a rear locker, which is diced.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also several drive mounts, including crawl control.
[SPEAKER_00]: We might be using that actually in the pit, multi-drain select, and let me see the drive mount.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think to keep it fair, well, this is why it gets confusing because there's an off-road drive mode and an on-road drive mode.
[SPEAKER_00]: So these are just on-road right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you're going to have access to.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to probably put it now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so let's go over that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So on-road I have eco, normal and sport.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then when I select MTS,
[SPEAKER_00]: now it's changes into auto, dirt, sand, mud, and deep snow.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it has more choices actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say we go to trail, which was what we had the other one into keep it as clear.
[SPEAKER_00]: We do have a lot of dirt here.
[SPEAKER_00]: You also have a camera back up camera here, another back up of digital camera in the river mirror if you like.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then here's my camera button here.
[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot more different camera, but also not a humongous screen, also horizontally kind of oriented screen here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which in role, and then let's how do we change the camera?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's your front.
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, you know what?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go to foreloat.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's keep it in the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you sure?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think we can.
[SPEAKER_00]: We need to demonstrate.
[SPEAKER_00]: We need to demonstrate that.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to, it's up to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to put it in the foreloat, put it in foreloat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's use all our most of our tools.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we have a smaller center of thinness car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and we also have maybe a little bit better wireless charging and it's not quite as wide Might be a little bit better, but same kind of issue So are you in for a low?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, all right, it's actually that was pretty easy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I you know usually in some Toyota It takes a while, but look at this we kind of have a seat through front and
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw that for the first time in the Land Rover, I think it was the evoke that was the first time I saw it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where they got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's time to every vehicle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, a much more upright wind screen just like the Bronco, the Passports a little bit Morely down you do have a heads up display in this guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe the Passport also has a heads up display.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They both have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, actually this one, so you do have more power, more torque, you have a little bit more hardcore, and also a body on frame, right, where the passport is kind of a unibody construction.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is more trucky.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, people like more trucky, but I'm not sure that that makes such a huge difference, because let's face it, the Grand Cherk, he has always been unibody, and it's not very capable of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's very capable of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, I'm not sure
[SPEAKER_00]: I like opening windows when we're outfroating.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's another cool thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool box refrigerator.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll refrigerate it.
[SPEAKER_00]: If that's not only an inclusive thing, I don't know what is.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think of this material?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you like it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's also good.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also chocolate slash espresso.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's really nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's pretty attractive.
[SPEAKER_00]: This has a nice, un-road feel.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've been driving it for almost a week now.
[SPEAKER_00]: and I think on road feel, the engine is a tiny bit buzzy, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So the engine doesn't feel super super premium when you're really hard on it, but otherwise the comfort is really great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shall we go down?
[SPEAKER_00]: lugs and see how much head bob because we had quite a lot of bob yeah i would say so this should have well body and frame more suspension more articulation should be more comfortable yeah i think this is where you really tell the difference and i'm trying to go slowly just like we did in the Honda it feels a lot more comfortable actually yes you know what i i feel like in low range i have a little bit more control so i'm not as jerky yeah as far as in my motion is concerned
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and my head isn't slamming against the back of the headrest.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't call it comfortable, but it's a little bit better.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit better, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: How about the seat comfort?
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I like it yeah, I think it's on par with Honda in my opinion I know you really love the Honda seat time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a little bit less of a Honda seat fan Well, I like it cuz I spent like I said a lot of miles It was eight hundred and I heard miles in it over a weekend, so I got used to it All right now we're gonna go up rocks and I'm trying to pick the same line.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm trying to be no does
[SPEAKER_00]: Very apples to apples.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course the biggest difference between these two are the tires These are not These are all weather.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not all weather.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all seasoned tires.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you can get more Turingy tires on your land cruiser if you if you so choose from the factory
[SPEAKER_00]: But to satisfy us with one that doesn't have them, but you know, it's doing well even regardless of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also 8.7 inches of ground clearance.
[SPEAKER_00]: So about a half an inch more than the Honda, but not a tremendous amount of ground clearance.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is it with the Japanese and these little tiny volume knobs?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I wonder if they get from the same store.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I did when I first got into this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I pressed the modes to try to start it because that's kind of how it feels.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because right there you've got the
[SPEAKER_00]: yeah totally yeah so that's kind of one of the big difference so that was pretty good also no scraping over rocks it felt pretty confident and I feel like I have more control I keep in mind we aren't going into the back part of her
[SPEAKER_00]: for a course because that would probably mean that we have to use a brown coat to win some leaves out so we don't want to be going to scratch things out and we're going to you know vehicles that don't belong to us so we don't like to break stuff but this is I think still a good test and a good demonstration of the difference between the two vehicles right here we are going in the trenches elephant steps yeah I also have my proximity warning and reminding but a lot less a lot less yeah so Honda was you know we would like to ping
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why there's a lot more comfortable here.
[SPEAKER_00]: You should have more control now that you're in no range.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's a traction control system helping out.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's figuring it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is where the lack of knobby tires is really going to show.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to struggle a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you know what, that traction control system is working really well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was talking to two engineers when I recently drove the four, actually the three different off-road Tacomas.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they worked really hard to get rid of that drumming sound in the previous turn.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like you were like in a marching band.
[SPEAKER_00]: no more marching men, no more marching men, all right let's see approaching the departure and lava lane we'll test that and by the way we're doing the same route and turning the radius in both of the so far has been really good yeah I don't feel like this is you know unwieldy
[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing I would definitely say that this feels and it is a much bigger vehicle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a sense of like especially when you look out over the hood, there's a sense of you're in a pretty big vehicle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is to me it feels actually smaller than the 200 series in a lot of ways, but yet it's still very big.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that hood on the Honda is all for quite visible from your driver's standpoint.
[SPEAKER_00]: You also have if you look to your left,
[SPEAKER_00]: But how much does it tell only 6,000?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But more than a hundred?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's only more than a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, which toes not thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a proximity sensor going off.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we doing OK in?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we're hitting.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now the question is, what about the rear end?
[SPEAKER_00]: The rear is great for a butt.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we don't have much flaps.
[SPEAKER_00]: You do have much flaps.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we hitting much flaps?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're crunchy with my flaps, but they're meant to be crunchy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I meant to be crunchy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can hear it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can hear the my flap.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now accelerating a little bit up the lava lane.
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like more control.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: A little bit more.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like this also has a little bit more like square jaw fruity cred.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it feels, you know, like it's meant to be off-road.
[SPEAKER_00]: The passport seems to be like it's looking on a road card made it off-roady, whereas with this, it feels like they went out and designed an off-roader that was got to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Coming in with these both good on and off-road.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I think we're going to find something completely different of the Bronco where they designed an off-roader that can go on road.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a thing to make a difference.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and we'll soon determine that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you'll see the difference between how these three, how these three operate.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also love these little round vents.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a really sweet touch.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also the side mirrors are really tucked in and really nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they look at the different for towing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's go sit in the back of the Bronco, Andre.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I want to show them these wheels by the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Entires, this is, this is of course, by far the most off-road bike.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love design, dude, the design is great, the tire itself is amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you've got real rock rails, those have side steps, these are real rock rails.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they're meant to scrape across boulders.
[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, so this one is a soldering axle.
[SPEAKER_00]: and independent front, and so is the Land Cruiser.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let me get in the Land Cruiser, grab handle.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this one have.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not as many.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm counting 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, instead of 10.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we're getting robbed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Only two.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, on the wind on the dashboards.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going four.
[SPEAKER_00]: So four, grab handles here.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So nearum decent.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like I have enough floor space here that is all for hump.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not as wide Roman.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not as wide.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can kind of seal that already.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you think of this no step right there, that's going to cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is definitely dual zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no third zone back here.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, there's no even vents back here.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you do have power options.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on, you've got a big vent right here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you take this off and you have infinite sky.
[SPEAKER_00]: but no, no vent like if you're trying to heat yourself in the, exactly the way to, yeah, that's okay because it comes from the front.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would say it's kind of between the land cruiser and the Honda.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the Honda was maybe the most spacious this one is next.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, let's go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go in the front.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, from a pure refinement standpoint,
[SPEAKER_00]: this is the least refined interior by far yeah i mean this is plastic this is the one where you wouldn't be afraid to like take a hose and hose it down and hose it down yeah once again big screen a lot of auxiliary switch yeah which we actually hooked up to some lights yeah we have F150 LEDs on this puppy so let me turn it around before we start going again
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me turn it around.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully we won't have music blurring.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm turning everything off here.
[SPEAKER_00]: But look, unlike the other ones, we have both a volume and a tuning knob.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: How nice is that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for giving us a tuning knob.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, traditional shifter, traditional shifter.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cup holders, you know, the usual sort of things that you would see in a very
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so this is kind of an all in one, so you could twist this and then you select whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so let me show you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll twist it and then you can show them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's normal.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm going to go the other way.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you want to eco, then sport, then slippery.
[SPEAKER_00]: than mud and ruts, which you'll put it into four wheels sand and rock rye roll.
[SPEAKER_00]: A nice thing about this is it does everything for you, so let's go into mud and ruts, huh?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so then it automatically puts me in for high.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, but then I can also select either for automatic or for low if I wanted to.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they locked the rear.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't have to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but I kind of don't like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's trying to think for me I love that actually you do you want to go into four locus with the other ones?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we did All right, so just press the four low thinking my head going to neutral So there you go for low four wheel shift in process.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there we go And now we're in four low with a rear lock are still enabled
[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, we're missing one button here, which we're just going to sway by this connect for the front, which some Broncos have, but not this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're also missing one of the charging, which is good, we have the material, the other one that's charging it rarely works, so we do have a cable.
[SPEAKER_00]: But plenty of headroom, which is also nice, no cool box,
[SPEAKER_00]: No camera mirror, but still, really purposeful, the steering will is wrapped and I can't wait to try this out.
[SPEAKER_00]: But let's go off-road and you could, are you, look, most people, including us, that's face that even though we do a lot of off-roading, we spend 90% of our time on road.
[SPEAKER_00]: So why are we buying a car for the 10% of the time or if you're like a regular person for the 1% of the time?
[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact is, because it's cool, because it looks cool, because it says something about you, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: It says that you're an active person, that you love being outdoors.
[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes, now I would say more times or not, that is more important than actually how you use a vehicle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and also I would wager, and this is hard to show, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I would wager that these big tires, well, we're going down logs now.
[SPEAKER_00]: These big tires, especially if you air them down just to hair.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be comfortable on the road as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, don't I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be pretty cushy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: This one seems to have a little bit more toss.
[SPEAKER_00]: A little bit more toss, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Than Toyota.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you think you would have less, because it probably has the most suspension travel and the most bigger tire.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the most articulation, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yet, I think it's not as tossy as a passport, but I don't think it's as comfy as a Toyota.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they nailed how that suspension works.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and let's try rocks.
[SPEAKER_00]: And see how it goes up the rocks?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this is laughable.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this Bronco has 11.7 inches of clearance, which is three more than that land cruiser room.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so this is a work in the park.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is taking a machine gun to a dive site.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can go over these bushes, probably, without breaking a sweat here.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I really wanted to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and for those of you wondering this is where it looks like over the hood
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the hood is big, but we do have those markers, those kind of little points, to tie down, to tie the stuff down.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, yes, no, they're not the tie stuff down.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to prevent from branches from here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, yes, so there's like a, I wouldn't say a rope or wire that would go from that, you know, from that little guy to the top of the appeal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then if a branch were to come at, you wouldn't slap yourself in the wind screen.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think they are rated to like,
[SPEAKER_00]: If you have a canoe on top of your roof?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you could put a canoe and tie it down if you wanted to.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we do have ways to put stuff on this roof.
[SPEAKER_00]: This one of the cool things about this Everglades trim is that it does have these roof rack.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, actually all three of these have a roof rack.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can be very adventurous.
[SPEAKER_00]: The downside with that is they're hard to get off the vehicle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then this one does have the fur or felt up here.
[SPEAKER_00]: The mouse fur?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it does give you a little bit of sound that name which is nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so now we should see Raman probably the most articulation when we go that go up a bit of trenches.
[SPEAKER_00]: This should not create any issues whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_00]: This should just be... And not even using the front locking differential actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, this should be a lock in the park.
[SPEAKER_00]: This should be no tire spin or wheel spin here whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_00]: This thing should just not care.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I think a little bit there was just a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tiny bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want wheel in the air, but it's fairly noticeable.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also, yeah, I mean, I'm not even the least amount of drama.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is also the only one that comes with a winch from the factory, which is nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously, you could put a winch on anything, but it's nice to have it from the factory, because it's all integrated.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also, I don't know if that Honda, I mean, there's not a lot of space in that grill.
[SPEAKER_00]: in that Honda.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if you could actually put a winch on it, put a winch inside of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's you have to go to the aftermarket for that same thing for that land cruiser.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and now of course we're going to try approaching departure.
[SPEAKER_00]: Once again, this should be a walk in a park.
[SPEAKER_00]: A walk in the park for this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of torn out of this Bronco Landry, yeah, yeah, a little torn.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of, I mean, we've had it for many months, like you said.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the styling of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: The interior, you know, you don't feel like you're in a premium vehicle when you're in the inside here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: You feel like you're a very purposeful, very purposeful, very utilitarian.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, when you're on the road, it doesn't drive bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, it's not a race car, a sports car, like you said, I mean, I didn't even ask you anything because I knew we had plenty of uh, angle, approach and departure angle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you, you, you'd have to put like a tree in front of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's where it'll be a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I kind of,
[SPEAKER_00]: fallen in love with his bronco over the last few months that we've fallen in it actually yeah yeah i'm really glad that we got the Everglades trim uh the only thing it's missing like i said is the discriminable sway bar yeah but that's not a horrible thing and it is you know it's the only one from the factory where you get the snorkel and you get the winch yeah not that you need
[SPEAKER_00]: either one of them, but we've used the winch, recovering other vehicles, so we actually have used the winch, but we haven't needed really the snorkel, but the snorkel is well integrated into this system.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so Andre, I'm going to hand you $70,000, yes, only $70, well that's what this is $70, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got $70K now, do you go for the land cruiser, do you go for the passport, or do you go for the Bronco, and I'm going to make this even harder.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say, it has to be for the lifestyle that you have right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't be like, you're not guiding off road, you know, I'm not leaning a bottle out you're not leaning a bottle or a friend Eric, you know, this is your one vehicle to pick up your kids, you know, the half fun of the weekends, which one, which one do you go for?
[SPEAKER_00]: My heart, I think, belongs to the Bronco.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, what do we repay?
[SPEAKER_00]: $55.57?
[SPEAKER_00]: $57.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I would have a, you know, $13,000 left over in this budget.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just love, you know, the way it drives on row, this pretty cushy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the adventure of it because you can remove the doors, you can remove the top, just, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would go for the Bronco.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go a different take.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we had the base Land Cruiser this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, if that.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not that one the base one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the fifth the 1958.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the 50 how much is that 158?
[SPEAKER_00]: 58,000 almost identical to that Bronco.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we had that one versus the Honda.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes Then I would get the Honda
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, because I think 90% of what you get there for less money.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do love that spec on that one.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love all the goodies.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love the fact that it's very comfortable.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's body on frame.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's good on-road.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's good off-road.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's 70K.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's a lot more.
[SPEAKER_00]: But here's the thing about off-roading guys to put everything in there that Toyota has done for additional whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: 15K would cost you like 30K.
[SPEAKER_00]: So with off-roaders, it's better just to get it all from the factory and not have to go to the aftermarket.
[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing I have to do on that one is put some more terrain worthy tires.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I would get that one at 70, whereas if there was the base one, I would get this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does that make sense?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it makes perfect sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, totally.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, there you have it guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you could see that.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've also, uh,
[SPEAKER_00]: You will you took this to Moab, that's why it took a baby lion's back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's a surprise me, it did really well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so finally we're able to speak about this, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I saw the brand new Ram T-Rex, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And also a truck that many of us, especially case, on our team, have been waiting for, for maybe decades, maybe all his life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I end this with three words?
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