[SPEAKER_02]: This is Jacob on cast of a five twenty one with echo Charles and me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jacob willing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good evening.
[SPEAKER_00]: I come.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good evening.
[SPEAKER_02]: Discipline wins wars.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you aware of this?
[SPEAKER_00]: I could connect those dots for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we've been talking about it for about 10 years here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand.
[SPEAKER_02]: Discipline wins wars and not just the wars, the actual wars that are fat fought on the battlefield, but also the wars that are fought in your head every day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Discipline is required in order to achieve victory.
[SPEAKER_02]: Discipline is required in order to achieve freedom.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's nothing, no?
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, this has been arises as old as history.
[SPEAKER_02]: We know that discipline is what we need.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yet, even with that, even though everybody knows discipline is what we need, it can still be difficult for people to process, and it certainly can be difficult for people to implement it in their own lives.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know that saying, do what I say, not what I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a thing where it's easy for me to impose discipline on you, be like echo, you need to get up early, echo, you need to work out, echo, you need to not eat donuts.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's by, actually, I have a saying, which is do what I say, not what I do, because I'm over here sleeping and not lifting and eating donuts.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so they have a saying to remedy that, or try and put some pressure on individuals, because it's harder for us to impose discipline on ourselves than it is for us to impose discipline on other people.
[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, people kind of enjoy imposing discipline on other people.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's like a little power trip, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's kind of embarrassing as well that we can't discipline ourselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: Part of it too is a weird thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a weird dynamic that, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: When you used to lift with a lifting body, how often would you just not show up for that lifting bar?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't know that that's ever happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you see what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now how often were you planning to work out to bar just a load and it didn't go down?
[SPEAKER_00]: A few more times for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we would rather
[SPEAKER_02]: We have no problem, individual human beings.
[SPEAKER_02]: We, as human beings, have no problem just letting ourselves down.
[SPEAKER_02]: But generally speaking, we don't want to let down our friends, our team, our community, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't want to be known as a person that didn't show up, that did, that did, that didn't make the sacrifice for the team.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we don't want to be that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: But,
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's known.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just known that the discipline life will make your life better.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to take you back to April 1944, volume two issue number 15 of a little pamphlet called Army talks.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Army talks was a classified official publication of the United States Army in the European theater of operations.
[SPEAKER_02]: and they want to get soldiers aligned in their minds.
[SPEAKER_02]: They wanted their minds to be aligned.
[SPEAKER_02]: As they looked on horizon, they saw on the horizon, D-Day.
[SPEAKER_02]: D-Day was the eminent.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're looking at this war?
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, we got to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: At some point, we got to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to go to France.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to go to Germany.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to beat the Nazis.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we got to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they all know that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're looking at, you know, the, the damn fortress Europe and going, hmm, I don't know what it's going to happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: But in a couple months, two months, five months, six months, one month, we're going to get into boats and airplanes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to fly over there and we're going to go into attack mode.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, they wanted the army, obviously, once the mindset to be correct, because man, you get the collective, the collective mind is a powerful thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: When the collective mind is moving in a unified direction, it's a powerful thing, if it's the right direction.
[SPEAKER_02]: If the collective mind is moving in the wrong direction, that's also a powerful thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it'll stop you in your tracks, it'll stop your team in a track.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's weird when you watch a
[SPEAKER_02]: A game, a sports game, and you can watch that momentum shift, and you can feel it, you can feel the momentum Or you can feel the momentum pick up, and we all know That when someone's confidence increases
[SPEAKER_02]: They get a little bit more lacks.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's less on the line.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now they're you know in basketball they get they get hot streaks.
[SPEAKER_02]: They start just throwing up Steph Curry just all over the court just throwing up threes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: No factor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just hitting them.
[SPEAKER_02]: People get into that confident mindset.
[SPEAKER_02]: The momentum's with them.
[SPEAKER_02]: The mob mentality.
[SPEAKER_02]: The pressure's awful little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a huge thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why you get blowouts.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a word for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Blowouts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just the momentum is there.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we've talked about on this podcast where World War I, a runner whose job it is to run back messages from the front line to the rear echelon would start to run back and other people would see him running back and be like, oh, where I'm out of here.
[SPEAKER_02]: They would have panic and collapse based on me just seeing someone else run away.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the mob mentality is very important what they're trying to do here where this army talks pamphlet is get people aligned making sure that they understand because collectively this is what's important.
[SPEAKER_02]: collectively in a unit, every little, every little moment, every little decision, every little movement, it all makes a difference.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you've heard that story before, where they told my task unit, like we got done with the run at CQC, close quarters combat, got done with the house run.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the master chief's like, the instructor cadre, the master chief in charge of the instructor cadre, he's like, oh, you guys are freaking kicking out, you guys are the best task you do we've ever seen come through here?
[SPEAKER_02]: And the very next run, collectively, the 36 members of task unit bruiser all took their foot off the gas a little bit, all just, you know, just a little hesitation, a little bit lacks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Days ago, a little bit of this little bit, let that slide, a little bit won't be aggressive there, let someone else do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the next run completely sucked.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I told the Mastery for saying, hey, don't ever tell my guys that again.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, yeah, check.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a collective relaxation.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a collective slack.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if one person,
[SPEAKER_02]: takes one less bit of initiative, a half a second of initiative, a half a second of hesitation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'll let someone else go, I'm not really sure what to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you just multiply that times, how many decisions get made in a kill house?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a thousand decisions that get made in a kill house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably more than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But each one of those decisions,
[SPEAKER_02]: is an extra half a second or it's not as aggressive as it could be or it's not as sharp or it's not as poignant or accurate as it should be or the person's not front side focus when they're shooting their shots now they're missing their like there's all kind of little time things go wrong and now we have a problem well to same thing with us as individuals too because the little decisions that we're making little tiny decisions just little ones
[SPEAKER_02]: But and we we don't notice them today, you know, if you have, uh, if you have, let's say contraband in the house, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: IE, uh, Freedolay, Scoop-sized, uh, Freedos.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm talking about?
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so like let's say my wife is having some kind of a like friends over something and so she's good, you know, they're going to have to live it up, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to get some of these scooper things, scoops eyes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now these things are in my cabinet, so look, I have a couple of those things.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like I want something salty, boom, there we go, these scoops.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now look, is that going to ruin my life in a day?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not going to, you're not going to ruin my life.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could literally, and you're the testament to this, you ate what you, 12 donuts and one sitting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it goes more.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you ate 12 to 16, we'll say.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was many.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you feel sick when you got done?
[SPEAKER_00]: I did, you know, I'm remembering, the short answer is no, but I didn't feel like a champ.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, you literally ate 16 donuts.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, forget it.
[SPEAKER_02]: In one sitting?
[SPEAKER_00]: 8 or 12.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Put some chocolate, some hot chocolate milk on there.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can put a hunch on the milk on the milk.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, just in the scenario, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And clearly, look, now we know that's bad, blah, blah, blah, but it didn't ruin your life.
[SPEAKER_02]: You probably worked out the next day, no factor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: You might have taken a little bit of a freaking food comment that after that, after that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was that kind of afternoon, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it didn't ruin your life.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: that one decision, no big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: But collectively, now if you take that attitude, you make that decision for a month.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I was going to say for a year, but it's not even like an in a month, you'd be jacked up.
[SPEAKER_02]: You'd be, you'd you'd know it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You would not be as capable as you should be.
[SPEAKER_02]: So these little decisions,
[SPEAKER_02]: that add up over time, whether it's collectively as a group or it's individually as a human, every decision that you make is going to have consequences.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good consequences?
[SPEAKER_02]: Possibly, or bad consequences, possibly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we have to keep that in mind.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what the army is trying to do in April of 1944 is they're trying to get everyone to understand that when you're in the field,
[SPEAKER_02]: and you've got a task to get that wire strong or to get that vehicle fueled or to get that ammo loaded like all these little things.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean imagine you're going to the front line and everyone that's supposed to be loading ammo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone loads a little bit less and now all of a sudden instead of having six hours worth of ammunition You got three.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe got four Maybe you even got five, but you didn't have six and it was the sixth hour of ammunition That was gonna allow you to win this gunfight So this everyone has got to be giving everything they've got every decision makes and they want people to understand They want the soldiers understand what you're doing
[SPEAKER_02]: whether you're loading ammunition or you're assaulting a bunker, what you are doing is going to have an impact.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we need to think about that in our individual lives, too, what we are doing, this is a, we are making, are going to, is going to have an impact in our life.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we can't set that aside.
[SPEAKER_02]: We cannot forget that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, let's get into this issue of army talks.
[SPEAKER_02]: It starts off, we are preparing to take part in the biggest tug of war the world has ever seen.
[SPEAKER_02]: If any should let go of the rope, then we lose the match.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's exactly what I was just saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting that they used to talk of war.
[SPEAKER_02]: The reason I think they're using talk of war because if you've ever read anything about D-Day, most of the people that were participating in D-Day did not have combat experience.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they could, they didn't even use a combat example.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're using talk of war because every one of these kids has played talk of war and when everybody knows as you've been playing talk of war,
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't give full effort you lose so we have every single person is on the rope and you got to be pulling on that rope as hard as you can otherwise we lose
[SPEAKER_02]: talks a little bit about General Montgomery from the Brits and then Eisenhower and goes to General Eisenhower and says General Eisenhower thought it important to issue a letter on February 25th to every American serving under my command calling for cooperation with the British.
[SPEAKER_02]: We must earn and keep their respect as a great military machine dedicated to the single task of doing our duty in the winning of this war.
[SPEAKER_02]: He called for teamwork, every single task, every single task.
[SPEAKER_02]: This guy, that's in charge of the European theater before they go into D-Day.
[SPEAKER_02]: He talks about earning respect in every single task that you are going to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: So how often do we think that something that we're doing is not that big of a deal, it is a big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's that expression, how you do little things, is how you do everything?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or how you do anything, is how you do everything, that's what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: How you do anything is how you do everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what you say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're loading ammunition, your job is important.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're hanging a wire for communications, your job is extremely important.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of you have extremely important jobs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every task matters.
[SPEAKER_02]: It goes on to say, what these two generals were talking about can be summed up in one word, discipline.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now discipline is one of those, is one of those troublesome words in our English language, like bow or lead or row, which have more than one meaning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, the meaning often associated with discipline is punishment, but that is only one meaning in the of the word.
[SPEAKER_02]: The dictionary tells us that discipline also means teaching or instruction that discipline means training which molds strengthens or affects.
[SPEAKER_02]: And finally, the thing we're talking about in the army, discipline means control gained as a habit by gained as a habit through training, by enforcing obedience or by carrying out orders.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is orderly conduct.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's discipline.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, what's interesting about this is you think, oh, Jack, I thought you're a Mr. decentralized command over here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you want me to be the obey orders.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, and yes, I am Mr. decentralized command and if the orders aren't good orders then you shouldn't obey them, but also you should you don't understand what the mission is and go execute the mission regardless of how you got to get it done, but what's better or what's more applicable to right now for us as individuals
[SPEAKER_02]: is you train so that you obey orders.
[SPEAKER_02]: How often echo Charles do human beings?
[SPEAKER_02]: Not obey the orders that they were given to by themselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: We fail to obey the orders that we know we should do to give ourselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: How are we eating donuts?
[SPEAKER_02]: How's that happening?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and there's not one person that's like, I need to go and eat a dozen donuts today, or even one donut.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not a person that wakes up in the morning goes, I'm gonna go, I need to make sure I eat donuts today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not one person to say in that.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one's saying that.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one's saying, hey, I need to make sure I scroll through a bunch of social media to ask what my goal is.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one has that as a goal.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one says, hey, you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Tomorrow I want to make sure I procrastinate the tasks that are on the table for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one's saying that.
[SPEAKER_02]: What they're saying is, I need to make sure I get this thing done tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to make sure I get task 1, 2, and 3 done tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: They give themselves that order.
[SPEAKER_02]: And somehow, somehow, the order does not get executed.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, what we have to do is actually train ourselves to achieve blind obedience to ourselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a difficult task.
[SPEAKER_02]: You ever heard me talking to someone like, you know, what do you think about when, you know, what do you tell yourself when you got to do something hard about, I don't tell myself anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying anything to myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, and I'm not against people having little ditties we've talked about that too, like having something to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm not there's no negotiation happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like it's just like a soldier in the field gets told charge I'm charging.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not like well, how far how far do you want me to charge and when exactly you want me to charge and can you give me the outcome that you're looking for?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me ask you this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go on a personal level.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was there any single or collective incident or, you know, atmosphere, environment for you growing up that was basically made you?
[SPEAKER_00]: that's a very useful and beneficial in discipline because you can be like, okay, I'm like suffering, but the suffering isn't enough.
[SPEAKER_02]: for me to get you know contract from a Michael you know I've come from New England you know it's called surfing in Maine when you're a little kid and it's cold yeah but just just FYI
[SPEAKER_02]: My lips would turn blue like it is it is a hyper it is a borderline hypothermic scenario It was pretty common to have blue lips when you got out of the water from cold So maybe that's something Yeah, I But I don't have any like that I can think of off the top of my head.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do wonder that because, and I, I'm with you, you know, it was cold and hell yeah, you know, but a lot of places are cold, a lot of people grew up in New England, like they don't, you know, that's not necessarily to say that everyone from New England is as disciplined as you are close, you know, but we have talked about this before that people from New England do have a slightly higher chance of making it through basic seal training.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there is something there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that's like a little ingredient.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's a little ingredient.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, remember we took kind of talked about a little like
[SPEAKER_00]: in Hawaii, where it's like different, it's the opposite.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Hawaii is awesome, dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the lights out so laid back because it can be, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to endure suffering of the cold and the blue blue.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have to even have to build shelter for yourself.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly right, exactly right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's not, you know, bugs out there, the temperature's kind of perfect.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's gonna rain for like 15 minutes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it won't be cold, but it's very refreshing and warm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whereas in New England, if you don't plan, like you're going to die, there's no doubt about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You need to figure some shit out, and you need to get up early and you need to build some stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: You need to go and cut down trees and pile up rocks and put firewood in stacks to get ready for something called the winter.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's got to be something to that yeah, yeah, I think so I think so and that and that's like That's just like the exercising of your mind of thinking ahead and sticking with it You know kind of a thing which is literally what discipline it's all it is really when you really condense it down It's like you have a you have a longer term goal and the ability to stay on track for that And not to get detracted this essentially and
[SPEAKER_02]: And usually there's the short term for, in order to achieve the long term goal, the short term requires a slightly or more, is it just any a more difficult decision, then not staying on the one because sometimes it's a very small decision, you know, like some of those have very, the difference between being disciplined and not being disciplined isn't that big of a deal, because I mean really.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know really like oh, I'm not I I said no to the freaking nut morning Cheetos Like is that really a huge?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not really but You know again, well you're big thing if you're to measure the whole thing mathematically it is a detractor from the goal Not a significant one, but still is you seem saying so yeah, you can still achieve the goal without level 10 discipline You do level nine this when still achieve the course, but as far as what discipline is that's what it is man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's face it
[SPEAKER_00]: But, and my whole point was with that kind of capability, that discipline capability.
[SPEAKER_00]: in there, one of the ingredients and it's significant one is the ability to endure some suffering because even like the deprivation, it's even like, I don't know, like the simplest thing, what's this, like a dietary discipline, right, I wanna make way, I wanna lose weight or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta say no to stuff, and you'll be hungry sometimes, like you, and then the ability to be like, no, I'm not gonna get, because the hunger you're getting, the hunger you get, the more delicious everything seems, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty obvious.
[SPEAKER_00]: The ability to have that not affect you because you can endure that and it's a version of suffering.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's face it for, I mean, it must be because so many people can't stay with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're saying, but the ability to endure that suffering and other types of suffering is gonna be like super, that's gonna be a strong weapon, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I guess the more you want that end goal as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: That plays into it, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because if you don't really want that end goal, you know, it's rather an end goal too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing that I realized too.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like your brain kit, unless you've really had that end goal, it's really rare that your brain can really comprehend the value of the end goal.
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like if getting in shape for example, that's almost guaranteed if you just follow the simple rules.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty much, it's more guaranteed than most things in life to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yet, people don't do it, and assume saying, but oddly enough, if someone like knows the really knows and lives the value of being in shape, them slipping out of it, I mean, there's circumstance, but them slipping out of his way less likely, you say it's definitely less likely, however.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it happens for sure, it's a big way.
[SPEAKER_00]: But sometimes I feel like, hey, people were just, if someone was just a really experienced,
[SPEAKER_00]: the fruits of whatever the goal is, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say, let's say, being in shape.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like imagine if you've worked out in the morning and then you were in bad ass shape for the rest of that day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like you worked out hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: You would be jacked for that day and strong and capable and flexible and all the good things.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you didn't work out in the morning, then you were like a slob.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's way different.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where I got in the morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't work that way, unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's almost like,
[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like you don't believe it, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe that I'll be in great shape, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because nothing, it has never been proven to me, you know, kind of a thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: But even though it's like, like I said, it's a very reliable system, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's almost like, yeah, it's like, it's like they don't believe it for something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or they don't really want it that bad, you know, which, again, is like, it's weird how addicted people can get to whatever habits, whether it's food habits, whether it's social media habits, whether it's, you know, lounging or whatever those habits are like those things are really, really powerful.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's so there's like a thing you can get for your phone.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like a small, it's called a brick, and it's like an application.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you need to have this thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It locks up this, like whatever apps you tell it to lock up on your phone, it locks them up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you can't unlock them unless you go through some protocol with this exterior piece of equipment.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's it just it creates a an obstacle yeah and so it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like that but people go out and buy another piece of technology to prevent them from using the technology that they know is bad enough that they're going and buying another piece of technology to keep them from doing it because they literally can't keep themselves doing it themselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's some strong poles out there, some strong poles.
[SPEAKER_02]: And let look, the phones are the apex of human hacking, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hacking the human mind to just freaking get them in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it is, infinite scroll.
[SPEAKER_02]: bright colors, you know, the dopamine rewards of the, you know, is bring up that one different levels of reward.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: You get different.
[SPEAKER_02]: The variable variable rewards, you know, like they won't even give you everything you want every time they want to give you some other things that when you get the thing that you really want it feels even better.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is wild bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: I started happening with my dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: My dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got like the tastiest treats for my dog and he loved them And like first would do anything for them But I didn't do variable reward and so after 50 of them or 40 of them here is just like oh, that's one of those things again That's like whatever so you got to do variable word a reward with your dog and the technology companies know that they got to do variable reward with with us
[SPEAKER_02]: So they'll give you like an okay meme and okay thing, blah, blah, blah, but then you get the one you really want.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you get the thing you really want to see a six.
[SPEAKER_02]: You just you move.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they feed it to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you the powerful one they get you with.
[SPEAKER_00]: And after Wally gets kind of weak, but it's the notifications, that's how they get you.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you have a notification, that's why they put them in red and like, oh, one or two.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where do they come up, where does the notification come up, where do you see a notification?
[SPEAKER_02]: When you open the thing,
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say Instagram for example when you open Instagram on the top or whatever it'll have like a number whatever with red of how many messages Yeah, whether it be a comment on your thing or whatever and I don't know that you can turn them off, but Yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so But you So you don't know what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a little surprise It's the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you talking about that little red heart with a circle by it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, let me show it to me
[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about that little thing right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh wait, yours is kind of like turn it off or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it seems weird to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also on my emails, currently I have 64,000 adult emails.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, no factor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm not paying attention to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is like as they can make a hole.
[SPEAKER_02]: 1100 unopened text messages.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So those make cases.
[SPEAKER_00]: They mean nothing to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was going to say once you get an over a abundance of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, when they hear us talking about this, they're going to zero everyone out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then like, you know, they'll only notify you on today's messages, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Could you be like, oh, I got a new message today.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think that that's already a strategy or maybe I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my theory But yeah, I feel like they're going to balance it out a little bit because that's real because it's a face at email for example At first when you first got an email back in the day and you got an email you have mail You have mail you a mail, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, oh, who's the mail from and all this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, once you start getting spam like 10,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember like I don't care about any of these
[SPEAKER_02]: They totally turned me off to all emails.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I can't if I get an email from freaking Santa Claus himself.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't
[SPEAKER_00]: like after, you know, you have like a bunch of you put it this way with all the followers or whatever that you have, you have the potential to get too many of those, too many notifications for you to carry anyone right email scenario.
[SPEAKER_00]: So now they're gonna
[SPEAKER_02]: But I was feel bad I'll meet someone big.
[SPEAKER_02]: I sent you a DM and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_00]: your followers or the people you follow with general and then there's another one there's like yeah there's three yeah there's like three categories of DMs and it's like it's like a spam folder essentially so if you don't follow but yeah I think I feel like they'll they'll even that out they'll they'll start sending you only notifications that they believe that you might actually be interested in.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like that's like a thing or it's common so that's why
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why we have to train ourselves to just obey orders from you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did a whole damn thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: You are the general, you are the soldier.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a rare case.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really easy for me to like echo trolls.
[SPEAKER_02]: You better be out here at 4 o'clock in the morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get your gear ready.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really easy to say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when I got to say Jaco Willink by yourself.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one's around to watch you.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one's going to force anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: You gotta get up and get your gear ready at 4 o'clock in the morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: that's it's easier to let myself down than just let echo Charles down.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have to be we have to use unmitigated daily discipline with ourselves to power through these moments of weakness which are everywhere, they're everywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a question for you send it so and this is again back we got to rewind in is there an incident because it feels like you have a thing That you take pleasure in Certain like hardcore like suffering like stuff almost it's like I can't put my finger on it, but it's kind of like
[SPEAKER_00]: If it's extreme it's kind of like you you'll take pleasure in it kind of a thing where most people will just say generals Yeah, I don't you know like the fact that you're more about that cruising.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I'll actually say this in honesty Like I've found ways to since I was a little kid to find the immediate payoff in hard stuff or stuff that I know I'm supposed to do
[SPEAKER_00]: So I always feel like, hey, how can I look like what about this scenario right here?
[SPEAKER_00]: No matter if it's boring, suffering, a workout on a do or whatever, what about this scenario do I have to look forward to in it?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I just had this experience with my daughter, Rana.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so she was cutting weight for a jiu-jitsu match.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she was like, oh, yeah, she got this thing stage.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like she had some of her favorite foods staged for after weigh-ins.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not foods that were gonna be like hyper beneficial for post-way.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she had those, well, we had some hydrate, we had some milk.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had her ready to get back on the critical nutritional path after cutting weight.
[SPEAKER_02]: things were and I could when I was talking to her like she was excited she's like oh this is gonna taste so good like I'm gonna have this and uh I remembered that when I was go this is a weird thing for me to remember I remember that I was going to hell week prior to hell week I was saying to myself dude it's gonna feel so good to go to sleep after I've been awake for five days I can't wait for how good that's gonna feel it's almost like the the looking forward
[SPEAKER_02]: to the suffering so that I could get the relief of the suffering at the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's got to be some of that as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, perfect example because that's the kind of stuff I'll do too, where because okay, so there's certain times where all uh, if I don't work out or if I don't work out hard enough, that's a good one.
[SPEAKER_00]: And let's say slippin a later whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't sleep that good that night.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I remember many times, I'll be like shoot.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like kind of like not really into this workout, but I'm like, oh wait, but if I really push it here, I'll sleep good tonight, way better.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll actually have that dance for now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every rep, every set I do is now, I'm thinking of the payoff later, seems to be, and so it's directly affected.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's kind of like a mental thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that is a version of giving yourself something to look forward to in the moment in that suffering, seems to say, a big one that I,
[SPEAKER_00]: You know they say which the more I think about it the more I feel like hey, this is more real than I think it
[SPEAKER_00]: in regards to like, you know, some things that are just clichés, you know, but the gratitude thing and if you But if you can specify, okay, so I always and we talked about this back and like from a long time I was like my dream was that my own home gym with all the equipment that I want to get all my essentials, you know, like how did it look at so Finally everyone 20s.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you have 30s?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, there's no one 20s kind of kept it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but, you know, in now that on the days that I don't feel like working out, we'll say, I'll be like, wait a second, this literally what I asked for.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like not only asked for dreamed fantasized about, and I'm like smack dab in the middle of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I put my mind back in there, you know, and like I rewind my life mentally and put my mindset back to where it was back then, and it's kind of like, oh shit, I'm freaking
[SPEAKER_00]: freaking workout.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we get on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Check.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to train ourselves to be obedient to ourselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: Going on a little bit, a little bit more fast-forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: Discipline makes a team in your soldiers' handbook and other writings on Army Discipline.
[SPEAKER_02]: The point is invariably made that discipline is just another word for teamwork.
[SPEAKER_02]: for the training and spirit that make a football player or a bomber pilot or a machine gun or subordinate his own individualisms to the best interests of the whole group which he is a part.
[SPEAKER_02]: So again it's cool that they're putting this in the team perspective and calling it teamwork
[SPEAKER_02]: But what we're talking about is subordinating your own individualism and as individuals, subordinating our own comfort so that we can reach our long term individual goals.
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, look, when you're part of a team, you gotta subordinate your individual needs to the greater needs of the team.
[SPEAKER_02]: But on an individual discipline level, you have to subordinate your comfort, your comfort that is gonna make you feel good right now in the immediate gratification.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you gotta sacrifice that for the long term for your own personal goals as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Continue on more than that, it is what makes him responsive to the command of his leader automatically and makes him carry on as he thinks his leader would want him to do if the leader's not there.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's decentralized command.
[SPEAKER_02]: So being able to make sacrifices in the current time for the good of the team or the good of your long-term goals, that's what discipline is, carrying on, fast forward a little at selfishness, cost life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every soldier has enough intelligence to understand why discipline is essential in a football game.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why when the signal is given each one of the 11 men must carry out his assignment or the play will fail and the game may be lost and every soldier understands why teamwork is even more vitally essential in the army why the latrine orderly must subordinate his own distaste over the job
[SPEAKER_02]: to the comfort and health of his comrades, why the machine gunner must carry out his assignment, subordinating his own safety, to the interests of his squad without even thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: His failure may cost his life, and the lives of his buddies, and it may lose the battle.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, again, that immediate discipline that we need to have as part of the team to sacrifice our own well-being right now for the good of the team, that's also the sacrifice that we have to make as individuals so we can achieve our long-term goals.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which, by the way, is for us.
[SPEAKER_02]: fast forward a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: He ran his lay that the factory or kept his books at the bank, according to the rules laid down by his boss, again, subordinating his own interests to those of his company.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the nature of an army calls for a subordination, more rigid and unquestion than any civilian institution.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, we have to subordinate our own interests.
[SPEAKER_02]: And for us talking about self-discipline, you have to subordinate the immediate gratification that is presented to you in every donut, in every Netflix movie, in every comfortable pillow, in every snooze button on the alarm clock.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to subordinate those temptations to your long-term goals.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fast forward cooperation is also vital to make an invasion force such as ours will be Americans and British along with fighting men from the Nazi occupied European countries all under general Eisenhower's command and effective fighting team.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is what lay
[SPEAKER_02]: Behind the Supreme Allied Commanders quote assurance that our success in battle and our chances to return home safely and speedily are directly affected by our success in establishing here in Britain, a reputation as a first class discipline fighting organization.
[SPEAKER_02]: The general stated that, quote, only a self-discipline army can win battles.
[SPEAKER_02]: and he asked all American forces to be especially careful concerning improper use of motor transportation, drinking in public places, excessive drinking, loud, profane or indecent language, especially in public, slavin lines in appearance, and any discuracy to civilians, including driving courtesy on the road.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he kind of goes off on this little tangent.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, oh, hold on a second.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys get ready to go to war.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are we talking about?
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the address that he says, kid stuff did someone in the last row say that?
[SPEAKER_02]: To that attitude, Colonel Elliott C. Cutler, chief consultant in the insurgery and the ETO that's European theater of operations, gave a good answer in a recent radio talk when he said,
[SPEAKER_02]: Army Discipline often upsets the civilian, largely because he doesn't understand it, but also because it was partly to escape from authority that caused the ancestors of many of us to go to America.
[SPEAKER_02]: This distaste of discipline and regimentation is an inherited characteristic of our people.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he said, look, if you're American, you don't want to be told, what's you want to know discipline?
[SPEAKER_02]: We freaking rebel against England.
[SPEAKER_02]: I myself yield to no one in independence of thought and action.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what this guy said.
[SPEAKER_02]: I yield to no one.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's for your legit statement.
[SPEAKER_02]: I yield to no one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then he goes on to say, but I am as a profound believer in discipline in the army as the most regular of our regular officers.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have watched one son go through West Point and another enapolis and have studied discipline in the services from its first impact on men.
[SPEAKER_02]: And with all its mistakes, which sometimes lead to individual unfairness,
[SPEAKER_02]: It is the soul and very breath of a good army.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is what makes for the cohesiveness and unity what gives force to a mob and victory to the group who submit to it and live for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Submit to discipline and live for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We salute our superiors as a mark of our desire to serve well in our group.
[SPEAKER_02]: We dress neatly in order to prove that we can be subservient to the will of authority, knowing that the authority with proven ability to guide and command obedience can impose this on the enemy who would destroy us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh damn.
[SPEAKER_02]: We gotta think about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are up against an enemy that if given the opportunity will impose its discipline on us, that's why we have to be more disciplined than them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, you're going to get what you're going to get.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll say old school yard thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, we don't want to be we don't want to be we don't I don't want to fight I don't have to fight I want everyone to be happy out here on the school yard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right everyone be happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need to lift I don't need to be strong.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need to change this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need to train boy tie wrestling box I don't need to train you that we're gonna play hop scotch over here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well guess what
[SPEAKER_02]: when you just try playing a hopscotch and jacks and a handball, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Remember jacks?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's old school, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Old school.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we didn't recess back in the 30s.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's one day, let's do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: But at some point, a big, strong bully is gonna come and you're not gonna be able to do what you want anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna have to obey them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what it is in life?
[SPEAKER_02]: What is that big, strong bully in life?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's getting out of shape, it's getting sick, it's getting unhealthy, it's losing your mobility, it's not having the ability to get up in the morning, like it's all of these things.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the bully that's gonna come and bully your ass into destruction.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like you're always working for this, I guess at the end of the day, it's like this autonomy, really?
[SPEAKER_00]: This independence and autonomy, really, because like the less capable, less disciplined, less, you know, or in these things, the more you're depending on someone else to provide it for you, and it's probably, I was talking to Joel.
[SPEAKER_00]: At the master.
[SPEAKER_00]: Joel, can you?
[SPEAKER_00]: Or boy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're, you know, just going back for a brainstorming on kind of nonsense stuff, non-muster stuff, we'll say that, but it's kind of like a shocker.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lack of this words, like, and anyway, kind of touched on the idea where it's like,
[SPEAKER_00]: The more the healthier you are, you know, the idea of the more healthier you are the the last you have to depend on The system the medical system.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right even though the medical system is like one of the biggest industries like in the world really
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's just like that's like a very in your face simple example of the more discipline you are with your health and capability and like all this stuff I'll build like the whole thing the last you're gonna eat the last you're gonna depend on that and Yeah, that's the enemy the enemies like I don't know I don't want you to be healthy strong or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to need
[SPEAKER_00]: I want you in my ecosystem, you know, so I can use, you know, you, so it's kind of the, it's that same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it goes for kind of everything, you know, so it's like the more incapable you are, we'll say, the more you need to, yeah, and it's same thing like financially, the more
[SPEAKER_02]: The more you're financially put up against a wall the more you rely on financial aid the more you rely on credit cards More you're lying all these things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you're by the way you're going backwards.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're paying interest All these things are terrible.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they and it's it's funny too because they can market to you way easier when you're like Yeah, so it's like, you know even just as simple as the the grocery store Hey, we got to sail going on
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're like kind of strapped for money, you're like, oh, oh, I'm taking action on that sale But if you're not, you're like, I'm freaking busy today.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm freaking what you know playing jacks or hopscotch Seems like but you see these are all teeny tiny examples sprinkled into one big kind of idea that yeah, the more independent the more capable you are the less you're gonna depend on all this other stuff That's what we're doing man.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not gonna be beholden
[SPEAKER_02]: But you have to sacrifice now.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to sacrifice now.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to drive a 1997 Dodge GrandCare ran for 13 years.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't just be getting a new vehicle just because you want one.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like if you can avoid it, try not to get a vehicle that you can't afford.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you have $5,000, you have $9,000 saved up for a down payment on a freaking Mercedes, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And now you're going to have an $1,100 a month payment on a Mercedes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, as a Mercedes, a nice car.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: But now you could have taken that $9,000 and bought a cheap car.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's four years old, six years old.
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually cars are pretty expensive right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: But something that's reliable runs get one of those 10 grand and do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: and then start saving that money again like that is the that is the sacrifice you have to make right now and then you're going to look up in ten years fifteen years when you buy now when you buy you can buy a Mercedes with cash because you haven't squandered and paid a bunch of interest over time
[SPEAKER_00]: So here's another one that sometimes we might overlook.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like being on the Internet.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's Internet scams If you don't have much experience on the Internet or you don't really know You don't pay attention.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have that capability to exist on the Internet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you gonna get scammed a lot?
[SPEAKER_00]: So you know how like
[SPEAKER_00]: emails right like if you got an email saying oh uh hey there's like a 39 million dollars in an account and it's freaking whatever your name came up with yours and you just got to basically claim it and all this stuff you would know that it's a scam right because of all your knowledge and training we'll say it's incidental training but training.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's one of those things where if you don't have that training, you will be beholden to that enemy on the internet and they're getting advanced to some of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're saying spend more time on the internet.
[SPEAKER_00]: The more capability you have on the internet, the more independent you can do more safety.
[SPEAKER_02]: The cool thing is, I'll give you a real good technique.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you Google something and put scam after it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you'll figure out the scam.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even you knowing that, see how like that you're like kind of trained.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're kind of...
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that's a good tip.
[SPEAKER_02]: This next headline seems to ring true to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It says, personal discipline pays discipline is imposed upon an army to make it a team, because only a team can win.
[SPEAKER_02]: Soldiers have had to fight as a team ever since wars began.
[SPEAKER_02]: The cavalry of Genghis Khan had to charge as a team, the Roman legions had to hurl their spears as a team, the English archers to launch their arrows as a team.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we get into this idea of discipline being sacrificed, which is something that I really hadn't occurred to me in this direct of a way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cooperationism is more important than ever.
[SPEAKER_02]: If teamwork was so essential in earlier wars when the weapons were mostly were only such as one man could use by himself, how much more vital is cooperation in this war?
[SPEAKER_02]: With its tanks, planes, infantry weapons and artillery, which a group of men must operate as a coordinated unit.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is vital not only for what that small proportion of the army does,
[SPEAKER_02]: the actual fighting, but equally vital for that larger proportion of the army concerned with the army's survival and movement.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it is essential in an allied command such as the one under which we fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: So is it is a violation of team spirit and team operation that is the real crime underlying any infraction of discipline such as those about which general Eisenhower asked
[SPEAKER_02]: So, again, to me, this is a, they're trying to connect this for the, the soldier of saying, look, you're not just letting yourself down.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not just letting yourself down when you don't behave properly, you're letting your team down.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what you're doing in life too because it's easy to let yourself down.
[SPEAKER_02]: But imagine if you had to address your wife each time you wanted to like, do you make a bad decision?
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, hey, I'm just going to go ahead and let you down right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to get your kids, line them up, you know, stand before your wife and your children and say, hey, I'm about to make a decision that's going to negatively impact my health.
[SPEAKER_02]: my well-being, the capability that I have to provide for the family.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to go ahead and I'm just going to throw all that away right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys okay with that?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know when someone cuts you in line and they're like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you're here and you go, oh, just check with everyone behind me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They can most people go, oh, it's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like that thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, do you really want to make this decision right now?
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think you do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Continue on, for example, the discipline soldier will not go out for a joy ride in a Jeep or make a spectral of himself in a pub, the undisciplined soldier may.
[SPEAKER_02]: The real crime is that he lets the team down, that's the real crime.
[SPEAKER_02]: The real crime is that you let the team down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Disciplinary training is a two-way street.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does not merely lead to military proficiency to the army's own ends, it also leads to self-discipline, to the individual soldier's private benefit, wholly apart from its benefit to the army.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you learn, for example, to take care of your clothes and equipment to save money and to act in concert with others and many other lessons the army teaches, you improve yourself not only as a soldier, but as a man.
[SPEAKER_02]: You become more a more efficient fighting man, which is essential and you become a more substantial citizen.
[SPEAKER_02]: The man who has learned self-discipline has become an asset to any organization under any conditions, he will be in demand, factual, factual, look at the World War II guys when they came home from World War II, what they do, freaking greatest generation, built America.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: training pays in battle fast forward a little bit is such it is such discipline general steward continues with which we must have to win battles discipline which carries with it instant obedience instant response to the will of the leader and again I'm going to reinforce this point you're the leader you are the leader in your world you're it
[SPEAKER_02]: and you need instant obedience and instant response to the leader which is you, and you are also the soldier.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no time for thought, there's no time to weigh conclusions.
[SPEAKER_02]: The order is given it flashes to the brain of the soldier, brain, and muscle act instantly without thought of consequences.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get in the ice bath, lift up the weight, get out of bed, put down the donut.
[SPEAKER_02]: How are we to cultivate this discipline?
[SPEAKER_02]: This spirit that responds on hesitatingly to command when shells are bursting overhead, when bullets are whistling about our ears, when your monkey crumples up beside you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when you know that the next moment may bring your death, how?
[SPEAKER_02]: The answer is by training what kind of training, disciplinary training.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why these little things that you do each and every day.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why they're so important because you're either learning to push through, which I you ask me like where this develop.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you, when you're going through basic seal training, one thing you're definitely going to learn is like, oh, I'm about to do something that I don't want to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you just turn off your brain, you go freaking do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's no getting around it, you're going to have to get wet, you're going to have to get to Andy, you're going to have to do the formal time run.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to have to do the two mile oceans swim or the five-and-a-half nautical mile oceans swim.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to get in the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to swim for freaking four, five, six hours.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what's happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: 14 mile rock.
[SPEAKER_02]: 20 mile.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing you can do to stop it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to freaking do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you learn just to shut off your brain.
[SPEAKER_02]: You learn just to obey the internal order that you're giving yourself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you know, interestingly, in basic seal training, if you don't want to do the run, you don't have to.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't, you don't want to do the run.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to do the run.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to do this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wait, but don't you get kicked out of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can go ring that bell.
[SPEAKER_00]: It all ends.
[SPEAKER_00]: You see what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a voluntary organization.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to do any of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, most people say I don't want to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: 80% of the people that want to be seals.
[SPEAKER_02]: 80% of them that show up at that training.
[SPEAKER_02]: Though, yeah, I actually don't want to do that run.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually don't want to get back in the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually want to get some sleep right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to go to bed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to do eight count body builders right now for the rest of the morning.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So how much of that did you already have do you think?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to remember.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I could measure that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I know thinking back, it's like you just go, oh, well, this is what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who y'all?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I understand.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, to me, that's like,
[SPEAKER_00]: kind of dope when you individualize that element of it, where it's like, right, you're getting trained into having that, I'm like, probably that's some powerful stuff right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a lot of debate whether you get trained into that or whether you had it and they just got rid of the people that couldn't, yeah, well, maybe everybody has it, but just who really wants to tap into it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because that's what I was going to kind of say.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, thinking, I'm sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: In a group environment like that it kind of makes it easier to be honest for sure like cuz you're you're like I don't want cuz there's all these external things like I wanted to bring the bell in front of everyone and like just all this stuff But when you're by yourself, right you don't have that you know that get on that bell.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah Yeah, you're a person of them get on that bell and I'm innocent now, but the people who don't you know
[SPEAKER_00]: But the people who don't ring the bell they still have that group environment those little that that little bit of I don't know I guess you'd call it a version of support really Because like hey There's no there's way more consequences when I'm saying and they're psychological at the end of the act Yeah, it's like a logical, but you don't have those consequences if you're not in that environment you seem saying like I tell you my little story about my squad day that one time I had and it really went deep into it like
[SPEAKER_00]: I warmed up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was warmed up.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're ready to go for my first set of hardest set by the way, actually they're all hard, but hard, but That first I'm sitting there looking at him looking at my wife kind of through the window, you know kind of far away and she's just doing her thing or whatever You know, it's in the afternoon
[SPEAKER_00]: We're right before sunset.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he- if I don't do these squats today, no one's gonna count.
[SPEAKER_00]: Literally juggle himself.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll not care.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whether I tell or not.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know I could tell you you tease me for a little bit and you'd literally forget about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't think you're a bad person.
[SPEAKER_00]: No?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, much.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean for a second.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you would literally forget about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: has no bearing on anything at all not even a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I could tell my wife, the person I care about, I could tell my kids, you know, my family members, they'd be like, we don't care at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could not literally, I wouldn't want to tell my family others that.
[SPEAKER_00]: She would get house down, that's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just didn't answer it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I could literally not find one single person, the whole world that would care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Literally.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I just skip them, I'll provide myself with this relief of this freaking daunting thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't under this thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a high rep day too.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, yeah, you're faced with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's no guardrail, there's no support, there's no thing, you know, it's like literally no consequence if you don't do it, like ringing the bell, you're ringing the bell, everyone heard, and then you can like how you always see, you gotta go home, you gotta tell the people that you told you're going to be this and that and now you're not, you're ringing, you know, there's none of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I could just carry on living my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably let's face it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean even my strength probably wouldn't even have went down I'm saying, but that's not what it was really about it in the end of the day So I did it, but it really affected me I just concluded that hey, this is kind of my fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this is my thing to deal with You know, it's not like who cares if my wife doesn't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not her battle.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's insane at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly It's not even chocolate's beef
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you kind of got to do it yourself, but I'm just saying that's a way harder thing to do in the big scheme of this, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: So, there's also an idea of something, because I kind of just kind of mentioned the word voluntary, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a difference between what you're willing to do voluntarily and just what you can get through, because you have to.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've heard me say that when Alex Arnold climbed LCAP, I made a statement a few times, and I still believe it.
[SPEAKER_02]: but I have to put a caveat on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that Alexander Climbing L.C.P.
[SPEAKER_02]: Free Solo is the greatest physical feat that a human being has ever done voluntarily because there's people that have done way more incredible things but they weren't voluntary, but on death march, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right, just crazy situations that people get put into and they're survival scenarios and they survive against all odds.
[SPEAKER_02]: for years in some cases.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a physical feat of survival.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, they lose a hundred pounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: They come out, you know, 68 pounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's just brutal, but it's involuntary.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a little bit of a different category.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so what you're talking about and what I just said is like, seal training, you don't have to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can go ahead if you want to.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that squat rack that day.
[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't have to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you can quit if you want to, but You know, if you had to do those squats to like get your kid away from a fire, you wouldn't be a second thought But when you got a volunteerly, there's like a level of a step-up.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to do because it's involuntary Involuntary things, you know, sometimes you've got to do them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: But we got to be careful because sometimes think, well, you'll rise to the occasion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, you won't actually, you don't rise the occasion, like you might rise the occasion a little bit, but physically you've got a freaking train.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you go to a rope climb in seal training, and sometimes people cannot do it anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or like you're going to, like it doesn't matter how bad you want to try and climb the rope.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't have, if you have a train for you, you can't get a bill do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you've got a train, and you've got to be ready, and that takes discipline.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're talking about.
[SPEAKER_02]: fast forward here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Rules have a purpose, and that is what the army imposes.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are many forms of training, among them are care of clothing and equipment inspections of various kinds, saluting close order drill and other routine of army life with which every soldier is familiar.
[SPEAKER_02]: it is not at all the practice of performing the specific movement of column right to the rear march and other drill movements.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is practice instead in teamwork, infusing an individual into a group so that he maintains a keen alertness and response automatically and almost without thinking about it to the word of command and acquires the habit of doing so.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you I think you can get the habit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Matter of fact, I kind of know you can.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can get the habit of like, oh, you don't want to do this This squats where you don't want to get up and you don't get up, but you can get the habit of just doing things that you don't feel like doing at that moment And the military you got to train people for that, but it's in your personal life You have to train as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to get yourself in the habit of obeying your own freaking orders
[SPEAKER_00]: That idea that you mentioned a long time ago that how you're going to feel when you're done and it was mostly about workouts but it has to do with most things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like how you focus on how you're going to feel when you're done and so I started doing that I was like man, once you start doing that you kind of discover little mental things that happen to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah like exactly right like a little maze that you're like
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, uh, aware of something, yeah, well, sometimes, but if you get in that habit of like, hey, how many, how many, how many, this is what I discovered this way of thinking based on that was that let's say you're work out taking one hour.
[SPEAKER_00]: That one hour is coming 100% and Jeremy Treskin told me this about his mindset in Buds where it's like, hey, the end of this bud is coming 100% up.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's up to you whether or not you want to be there at one it comes, but it's coming regardless kind of a thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of the same thing with a workout where it's like, yeah, the hour is going to be gone like this next hour is coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: That hour mark is coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you want to be have you do you want to have done this or you want to have not done this kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, all right, let me just push through and just focus on that one hour.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's coming and see me saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's weird how it just kind of your body just does it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, so um, continuing off near the same end is served by group calisthenics and by such ceremonies as retreat discipline.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so there you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why we're doing calisthenics.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're just getting in the mode of like this is what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next section's discipline wins wars.
[SPEAKER_02]: when there is a breach of discipline and the officer punishes the soldier, the good officer will always punish the offense rather than the offender.
[SPEAKER_02]: The punishment will not be aimed at the aimed at the soldier as an individual.
[SPEAKER_02]: The punishment will be impartial administered in such a way that the soldier will feel that any offender, whomever he might be, would have been similarly dealt with.
[SPEAKER_02]: Too often, minor offenses against discipline are overlooked.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to watch out for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Minor offenses in discipline are overlooked.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every infraction must be promptly dealt with or disciplinary action taken against the officer who tolerates the offense.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, that's you.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's you with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: D-Day stiffens rules, with a football team we may expect a coach to become stricter.
[SPEAKER_02]: The discipline more rigid as the day of the big game draws near, so also with an army.
[SPEAKER_02]: Baron Vaughn's stupid, the German military genius who drilled the continental army and made a winning team out of a mob of individualistic citizens, commented of Americans, the genius of this people, is that one must first explain and then give the order.
[SPEAKER_02]: The soldier who does his duty will find and ponder the explanation and carry out the orders all to one end.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's again, this is why decentralized command is so important.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we got to explain hey, this is what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is why we're doing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's go execute.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a summary here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Discipline can snatch victory from defeat in battle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Drill, saluting, and inspections are measures for disciplinary training.
[SPEAKER_02]: Officers as well as enlisted men are subjected to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Discipline is inculcated so that soldiers fight as a team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fast forward a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Courage alone is not enough.
[SPEAKER_02]: A mob may be made up individually of brave men, but it cannot do the work of an army because it lacks discipline teamwork.
[SPEAKER_02]: The record clearly proves that green men suffer much heavier casualties in battle than well-disciplined troops.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, this courage thing, this reminded me when you see fighters, MMA fighters.
[SPEAKER_02]: and there's fighters that are freaking like undeniable, undeniable warriors in the cage.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they will not tap out, they will get beat like just brutally beaten.
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll get caught in an arm lock, they'll get punched in the head, they will not.
[SPEAKER_02]: The ref has to stop, stop the fight, after just total blood bath and bludgeoning of someone's head.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're clearly our warriors in the cage.
[SPEAKER_02]: But sometimes they're not really warriors like on the day-to-day basis of the discipline of training, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And It's very interesting to think about that because the the champions have both the champions are gonna train every single day And when they get in that cage, they're they will they will do whatever it takes to win and they will not stop until they've achieved victory
[SPEAKER_02]: And luckily, they have the discipline, so they got the technique, they got the skills, they got the cardio, they got the conditioning, the strength, they got the flexibility to make it happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that came from their discipline leading up to the fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you get somebody that's a total warrior in the cage.
[SPEAKER_02]: When sometimes they kind of lean on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a way to not have to train.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's a way to not have to begin getting up early.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a way to not have to do your freaking road work, son.
[SPEAKER_02]: So don't be that guy and look we love those guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: We love them.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's great to watch him fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to give up and sometimes they win just on sheer will.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just on sheer will.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you don't want you don't want to be that guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to have to rely on a will to win.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to rely on your skill technique and to use your will.
[SPEAKER_02]: in the preparation, this section right here, I'm talking about it's called preparation, that's why I thought of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So be disciplined during training camp, be disciplined.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if you were that person that would have to run to save your kid from a fire, hey, you could really, really, really want to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's a chance your legs just can't handle that kind of stringuous activity.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's it, that's what you get, so you got to really be careful about that, and I'll close out with this little section from this pamphlet.
[SPEAKER_02]: It says soldiers need good discipline off as well as on the battlefield, every man wearing an American uniform in foreign service, whether he realizes it or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: is serving as a personal representative of the United States.
[SPEAKER_02]: General Eisenhower expressed his desires on this subject in his letter to the Americans of his command on February 25th, 1944.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is vital that we work with the people of Great Britain both in the fighting services and in civil life on the basis of mutual respect, consideration and cooperation.
[SPEAKER_02]: This means that we must earn and keep the respect as a great military machine dedicated to the single task of doing our duty and winning this war.
[SPEAKER_02]: is likely to form his opinions about America and Americans on the impression we make as individuals.
[SPEAKER_02]: We owe it to our country, our allies, and our selves to make that impression a good one.
[SPEAKER_02]: A good one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Self-discipline, like battle discipline, pays dividends.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the Army Talks document from April of 1944.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as stated, we owe it to our country.
[SPEAKER_02]: We owe it to our allies.
[SPEAKER_02]: We owe it to our families.
[SPEAKER_02]: We owe it to our friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: We owe it to our teams.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we owe it to ourselves to impose discipline in our lives.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we have to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: some different perspectives on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very familiar topic.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got a good opportunity for discipline in our lives for doing the Deaf reset.
[SPEAKER_02]: January 1st today, matter of fact, because it starts tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're listening to this podcast, when it comes out, December 31st, well, on January 1st, we're doing the Deaf reset.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a way to train yourself to have discipline.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a way to learn the lessons that we talked about today personally individually before the enemy working out, prioritize an execute, hydration, clean fuel, getting rid of the sugar coated lies, breeding, writing every single day, remembering every single day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are the things that we're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to do them every day.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're doing them every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, industry term.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got a bunch of cool assets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can go in there and use that for your social media.
[SPEAKER_02]: use that for your social media because not distracting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good diet.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good meat diet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do that instead.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get away from the immediate gratification of dopamine that just floors your entire brain when you go on to the regular social media applications.
[SPEAKER_00]: You
[SPEAKER_00]: You heard the expression brain rot?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got freaking four kids, bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course I know what brain rot.
[SPEAKER_00]: But now it's like an actual thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, no, this is a brain rot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Brain rot, yeah, yeah, that's how.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's no shame in it any of you or something that's like a, like a, what a call, a genre.
[SPEAKER_02]: And A, I saw up same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: From these kids now that I see they're like no, no, there's a brainwrap channel.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's funny Yeah, you know, it's fun like like what he call mindless entertainment almost in a fun way You know, that's like what it is bro I'm telling you a diet full of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like what he called indulgent food right call it indulgent food But it's another word for junk food.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's gonna say just junk food.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but they call it indulgent food to make that positive spin on
[SPEAKER_00]: But brainwrap doesn't even sound positive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're talking about how like what you consume is another version of diet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like your dietary consumption of media, you know, is something.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it is like whatever, what are the dynamics of that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have a strong diet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Media consumption.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she really, like, just loves it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she still brings that sunshine though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, thanks all of our military personnel, those currently serving in those who have served in the past.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we are grateful for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And everyone else out there, Sonsu, said, quote, the consummate leader cultivates the moral law and strictly adheres to method and discipline.
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