[SPEAKER_02]: What's up everybody?
[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the stack.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Alex, I'm Pete, and on this stack we talk about a bunch of books that have come out this week and review them and we never make mistakes that force us to restart the podcast all over again.
[SPEAKER_01]: It never happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every single time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Most of this things happen between friends and you just share them.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... i mean he'll listen i didn't say who it was who made a mistake all right i think listen i think it's a guy talking who made the mistake as you why would bring it the fuck up
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all fair point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's jump right into the comics with ultimate universe two years in everyone from Marvel with my deadest camp at Alex packed a doll arched by Patrick Bootten Phil Noto Francesco Mammoth Lee Ferguson and Havia Polito.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a follow-up on last year's ultimate universe one year in which was another one shot special but it's also a lead-end to ultimate end game which is coming at the end of the month
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's going to end Marvel's ultimate universe, quote, unquote, for real.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this one, we're focusing back on this universe's version of the Guardians of the Galaxy as they look for their friends who have been lost throughout time.
[SPEAKER_02]: we get some introductions including we knew about this in advance, ultimate Daredevil, but some also some surprising ones as well that I certainly wasn't expecting as we talk about the continuity in history of the universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I should put a spoiler warning here for all the books we're talking about today.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Pete, what did you think about this one shot?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, uh, this is fun, you know, it's a nice kind of uh, uh, uh, where everything is kind of in the world right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, and it's a fun mix them up of characters.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Altimates is one of my favorite things, but I found this issue enjoyable.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I also thought like because sometimes when they change an artist in a book, it can pull me out of it, but they did this kind of like,
[SPEAKER_03]: for the Daredevil portion where they kind of changed the artist, but it kind of worked, and it was nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I thought that was kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, other than that, I thought,
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, art was amazing, interesting story.
[SPEAKER_03]: So pretty solid.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am a little hesitant to get too far into this because I definitely liked it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like more than you did.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's a theme that the writers are playing with in this issue that almost
[SPEAKER_02]: works against everything that we know about the ultimate universe and how it is supposed to work, specifically the place that they end up at at the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: And without saying too much about it, you know, the ultimate universe has been destroyed by the maker, guardians of the galaxy, have come in because they said it's wrecked the future as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you are feeling any anxiety
[SPEAKER_02]: reading this issue because I think what packed it all in camp have done very nicely is give a sense of scale to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm typically my head very much, but it really I want people to read it and enjoy it because there is a lot of fun stuff that's going on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: We do get some
[SPEAKER_02]: crazy future characters, this almost is a lot more like legion of superheroes that it is cardged into the galaxy and that's fine and it's fun but really the thing that has been so strong to be about the ultibates in particular is the way it is resonating off of the modern world and this one did it in space and of very different and much more hopeful direction than we've gotten from a lot of the ultibate universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what I like about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which I think is nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also think the kind of like never the end was really cool too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, good issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about DCKO Superman vs. Captain Adam.
[SPEAKER_02]: Number one from DC Comics, written by Joshua Williamson, art by Sean Isaacs.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's been a lot of conversation in our comic book club discord about what you do or do not have to read to to understand DCKO.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the short version is only the five issues of DCKO, and then the rest of the spin-offs and one shot's flesh things out, or telling their own stories to run parallel.
[SPEAKER_02]: However, this all fight month, at least with their framing to the issue, might be the exception, because we're getting eight one shots that give us one-on-one fights really for the first time in this tournament.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll give you guys anticipated matchups in here, of course, it's super bad for us, Captain Adam, but they lay it out as issue one, issue two, all eight of these issues, issue three, issue four, issue five.
[SPEAKER_02]: So my suggestion is, do read this.
[SPEAKER_02]: That all said, what did you think of this matchup, Pete?
[SPEAKER_02]: How did you feel about how it went down?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, should we go to our brackets?
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I think this brings up if we want.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if we want to talk about them, but yeah, I thought this was really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love this kind of issue, the kind of whole setup.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also like this kind of like heart of apocalypse that corrupts.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's a cool idea of this bloodlust that happens that kind of sets up this whole tournament.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad it's not just like, hey, everybody's got to fight to the death and then the winner gets a apocalypse.
[SPEAKER_03]: kind of aspect that's kind of creeping in part of the story that kind of gives it an edge.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I really appreciate the kind of layers that's happening because I do just love a giant fight, but it's also nice that we're getting other stuff here, which is cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, really like this issue, it seems like Captain Am one.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he did not, he did not win.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well, yeah, I mean, obviously, that's what I wanted to tell.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's because Superman becomes a captain Adam by the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: The conceit of this, which
[SPEAKER_03]: I, to me, that's kind of like saying like he won because he took over Superman.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't know Superman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, God gave himself Captain Adam Powers because the conceit of this is you get three rounds each time you die, you can come back as Eddie version of yourself, which is very fun and ridiculously video gamey like giving yourself skin back as gold Superman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So my point being that like, I think this is a fun way of exploring this.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a little bit of a foregone conclusion.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think with this fight, there's some other fights that I'm looking forward to more over the course of all fight month.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I thought even more than a super bad issue, this is a very good captain Adam issue, exploring him and all of his different forms.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's one for me shows up in that I should have predicted, but it's very fun to see.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're having
[SPEAKER_02]: Here you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cheyette says criminal number one for the image comics written by Ed Brubaker, Art by Sean Phillips.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's also a bit in here from Karen Gillin and some other folks.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got a big main story which is a news story from the world of criminal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Taking place over one crazy night in Vegas, then we got a couple of backups including Kirin Gillin providing an RPG Maddie World because of course Kirin Gillin made an RPG baddie World for criminal.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got a couple of adventurers and show running strips Come on from Ed Brubaker.
[SPEAKER_02]: The weird thing about this is this clearly was timed out to be like we're releasing it before the release of The criminal TV show to get you super hyped for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we don't know when that's coming out yet
[SPEAKER_02]: So, and I thought it was going to come out of like October or something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know exactly what's going on there behind the seeds because I really feel like that should have come out this fall.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what we're going to do is, the next coming fall, sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's a year from now.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would make a lot of sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever it is, we got to do a criminal story.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're always great, period.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, this continues to be awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really did love the back up though, the adventures and show running.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, I'm sorry to immediately go to that, but I mean, criminal is awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Continue to be awesome, people know it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, we've said already so many amazing things about that series.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think this is very fun, and I was being a little glad about it earlier, but like,
[SPEAKER_02]: this is whenever the show comes out a really good issue to hand to people because there's nice refresher about all of the characters and criminal get you caught up to speed even little notes about like this character is not quite as important for the TV series or this character wasn't important for the comic book series but is important for the TV series so good to see it good to get more criminal keep it coming
[SPEAKER_02]: Next up, Wicked Witch's Road, number one for Marvel by Wyatt Kennedy, Art by Andy Pereira.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is picking up off the end of Imperial, which found Wicked and Hulkling escaping from space.
[SPEAKER_02]: They rocked to Earth, and here they are left in an unknown eastern European country on their own trying to make it out alive, and of course they get embroiled.
[SPEAKER_02]: in the witches' road of the title, I thought this was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was a little iffy audit because this is title-wise at least pivoting off of Agatha All Long, which did come out well more than a year ago, so I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: nice time and marble.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good one.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is a great wicked and haul-kling story.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some genuinely creepy stuff that happens in here in a very surprising way.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it goes to a corner of the magical marvel universe that we haven't seen before when it often feels like.
[SPEAKER_02]: we're hitting the same roads over and over again, so I was very pleasantly surprised by this and really enjoyed this issue quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great art, great story, excited for issue number two.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I agree with all of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did think this was a blast and a ton of fun and great art.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I love the story.
[SPEAKER_03]: I felt like they brought something cool to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also think there's a great team and a great relationship, so it's easy to root for them and I enjoy
[SPEAKER_03]: their stories and what's going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: But also my love of John Wick got in the way at the end of this because it's like, I'm sure you're familiar with this album, but they call John Wick Baba Yaga.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when they kind of evil, which at the end is like, I'm Baba Yaga, I was like, oh my god, this is John Wick work crossover.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was like, no man, that's that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's Bobbiaga, first of all, and it is a classic Russian witch.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was pretty psyched about that because I love Bobbiaga.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dot, John Wick, but the actual Bobbiaga, the witch.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they called, uh, John Wick, that because, you know, they called them the bogeyman.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I guess the bogeyman, the witch, kind of a similar, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Bobby Aguette, the witch who lives in a chicken house, predates John Wick by at least a hundred years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, good to know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw the chicken house and I thought of how's moving Castle.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm all over the place.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I hear you.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the thing that's weird about it is Bobby Aguette, somebody killed her dog actually.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen this before.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll go down that road at all of the time, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, one other thing I want to say about this title before we move on is I really appreciate it in between all the magical shenanigans that the first half of the issue just has hulkling and wicked trying to survive in the woods and figure out how to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought that was some of the best just like character work that I saw in a comic all week, just sort of coming down and having these characters talk.
[SPEAKER_02]: interactive figure things out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: So really good first issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next up, absolute green lantern.
[SPEAKER_02]: Number nine from DC Comics, we're by Al-Yu-Ang, art by Sid Cotian.
[SPEAKER_02]: In this issue, Joe is reuniting with her ex girlfriend and they're going through some stuff there.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is how Jordan is down and out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, there's a new character in the field called Demesis, who is coming after them and a bunch of other things are going on as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about this one?
[SPEAKER_03]: Gold finger?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Another great kind of like.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're getting to know Joe Moore, which I'm very excited to get a little bit more of her backstory.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's one of my favorite of the lanterns.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I also like the villain here, the psycho killer who can take their face off to your face off.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, interesting villain.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm hooked.
[SPEAKER_03]: This seems great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like this as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought this series has been picking up quite a bit as it's gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a little more spy, domestic trauma, which is fun after the very heavy past couple of issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I love how it's just like there's a little bit of a sense of an Easter egg cut going out here because everybody has a very pointed name for somebody in the made DC universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything is some other things.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, oh, that's different.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that guy, oh, Terry is named, I know what Terry is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's you love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not you love you're here for the tea.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have spill that tea agree to that Absolute tea more like oh boy anyway great issue G. I Joe number 15 from skybound a image comics written by Joshua Williams an art by Tom Riley this could be doing the Dreddock Wars Yes, which I think I forgot to put the second part in the stack and that is
[SPEAKER_02]: entirely on me on how to steer you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, we miss talking about the introduction of road pick, you were like, well, I didn't think I'd ever see a comic with road pick in there, but guess what?
[SPEAKER_03]: A day is now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I use those words, but I definitely didn't expect it for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: But road pick has captured both Duke and Cobra Commander and the dread knocks are coming for them.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean this is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is just, I feel like a little kid watching my Saturday morning cartoons eating cereal, having the best time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, great-ish, you got to do, concobert commander being held by road pig and the net oil, and he's kind of introduced himself to the dread knocks, which, you know, he's a part of the dread knocks, if you go back with the lore, so that was kind of a fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, then we have the secret meeting with
[SPEAKER_03]: to Baroness Destro and the US military here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy, what's going down there?
[SPEAKER_03]: Great action.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just as just the unbelievable art and a blast and a half.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the younger me is beside himself, having a great time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a quick question for you and generally I really enjoy this Tom Raleigh's art is great this arc is very very fun I love seeing a bad guy a good guy have to team up to fight bigger bad guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Always a fun trope Road pick road big come on man.
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't like a syndrome rock on the end of a steak.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's up?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he's very cool He's very bad max 100% would be hanging out in Thunderdale for sure
[SPEAKER_02]: He, uh, mostly hangs around a house, so should he be like house pick and not road pick because he doesn't go out on a road at any point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, in this house, they're not even, but, I mean, there's a road in front.
[SPEAKER_02]: Treadknock's travel on the roads and swamps, but he's not a dragknock yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a dragknock at the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he should call himself house pick and then he gets it like a car.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_03]: Road pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, uh, I didn't see where he had prepared.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, uh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is he called Brod Pig that if he never gets on the road?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he is on the road a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just not in this issue, okay?
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how he got his nickname.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but how do you get his nickname in this because he's not on the road and there are no roads around you See the middle of the desert.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's not how life works.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is Andy Housepin.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't just be like when you meet some way for the first time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Be like, hey, your name doesn't make sense right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, you know, before you do this on the road, the child, there we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Constantly, come on, no man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, otherwise, I mean, this comic is bad because of that kind of mess.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, don't you're sure you never want to do this comic that's based on G.I.
[SPEAKER_03]: Joe.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate all the G.I.
[SPEAKER_03]: Joe references, but other than that, it's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I do love the stable in this fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Strange never went from Marvel Written by Derek Laddy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Art by Ivan F. Rally.
[SPEAKER_02]: The new status quo of Dr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Strange is he is the source of a supreme of Asgard and hearing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's to travel through the nine realms to solve a mystery and maybe rewrite history.
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: Team at all times.
[SPEAKER_02]: Angela.
[SPEAKER_03]: Woo hoo.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a question.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what's I was having a great time until the last panel did and, you know, obviously I missed things when I read comics, you know, that's why it's nice to be able to talk to you about comics.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're still understanding.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did he turn himself into Mr. Fistell at the end or am I just jaded with a horrible history?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you're just jaded.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot going out of this comic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, too much going out of this comic because they keep jumping through the realms and they're explaining things and explaining mythology and I was having a blast and then that last band you're having a good time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, well, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: But who's and what's that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you just an evil?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you just say, yeah, you just like an evil demons.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: This didn't really work for me just because there was so much going on and it felt like it was going to get so many different directions.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not really into Angela as a character in the Marvel Universe, though I think having her butt up against Dr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Strange is potentially fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do like Derek Landy stuff quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to stick with this for sure for at least the other issue, but there's just like plot plot plot plot plot going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but also I thought the bad guy for Bowden, if I'm saying that correctly, he's fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he would even bowed and he makes fun of me with Balakith first.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then he didn't have like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: He looks like one of the gargoyles.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that,
[SPEAKER_03]: He was fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also like to have made fun of Dr. Stranger's mustache.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was a fun bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a little bit maybe I miss something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you could help out here when they were like, Oh, no, it's verboten.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's back.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, am I supposed to do this?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know who for, but oh, yeah, good.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the, I mean, go back to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It might be strange tales he was in.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was a bunch of, he knows, mentioned, you mentioned strange tales all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's crazy to me because I don't think anybody ever mentioned a strange tales.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the people who wrote strange tales mentioned these tales, a lot of great characters came out of strange tales.
[SPEAKER_03]: Verboted.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Top for what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's list.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, anyway, D.C. K.O.
[SPEAKER_02]: Batman night fight number two from D.C. comics were by Joshua Williams and art by dad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mora Batman has been killed in the first pre round of D.C. K.O.
[SPEAKER_02]: but he did a little trick at so the heart of Apocalypse is punishing him but making him fight all of his robins as
[SPEAKER_02]: All of his robins have become a multi-versal type Batman.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty complicated to the gods.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But basically like Nightwing has perfected being Batman and got all crime out of Gotham City.
[SPEAKER_02]: Batman has realized it's wrong and how to beat him does beat him in this issue, which shunts him to another reality where Jason Todd is Batman.
[SPEAKER_02]: things are much worse there as you may, a badger, but what did you think about this second issue?
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to take a moment before I get into this fantastic issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love very much.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that I tried to hastily Google of verboten, the countable character, and I got the response that there is no prominent or widely recognized countable characters, specifically named verboten.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I don't think he existed before this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I guess maybe I was wrong about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I thought that was kind of funny usually when you Google stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, it's this issue and this, you know, but okay, I'll move on.
[SPEAKER_03]: But All right, yeah, I mean, this is just a
[SPEAKER_03]: a fun kind of like Batman versus Batman kind of thing and my robins are more badass than your robins.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was confused but also amazed.
[SPEAKER_03]: The art is unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had like kind of Jim Leaf vibes to it a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, this is an absolute blast night fight is what you want, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: You want different batman's from different universes, cone up against each other, wondering who's the most batman of the batman's?
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought this was really good, and I keep eating the same drum with this DCKO staff, but what works nicely about this is that Joshua Williams said is not forgotten.
[SPEAKER_02]: The emotional thrust of this, what it would mean for Batman to specifically see Dick Grayson in this situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very interested in where Batman is going to end up at the end of the series.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to be really, because
[SPEAKER_02]: he's pushing himself to the dark directions.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yes, he's dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's one thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other two things are that what he comes up against Jason Todd, he goes through yet another change and he has to kind of like he's sort of turning towards evil and I think that's what the heart of Apocalypse
[SPEAKER_02]: does is probably doing it to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pushing them in some interesting directions.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's giving dad more a chance to design some crazy bad costumes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, I'm having a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's weird to me that he's like, oh, it's Jason Todd.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, oh, it's kind of formal.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's surprisingly some kind of like J.D.
[SPEAKER_03]: or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you would do that because you're
[SPEAKER_02]: In front of Guerrero Red, volume two, number one for image comics written by Matt Grum, art by Erica Durso, there's the second volume of the series, set in the mass of verse, which also includes Radiant Black and all the titles.
[SPEAKER_02]: And in front of Guerrero Red is a legacy hero who lives in Apax City, which has been taken to another part of the universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just kind of floating there.
[SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't really play to this issue, but basically she is the lone blitret protector of the city.
[SPEAKER_02]: and in this issue some new threats are coming your way as well as new allies.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're big fans of the first series here.
[SPEAKER_02]: How did you feel about the return?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was and I love this as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really like how
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like the main universe.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's different, but like the same, if that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like you could really fit in really nicely.
[SPEAKER_03]: It has this kind of kind of kind of look.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if the same kind of coloring or what's happening, but they're doing such a great job with this.
[SPEAKER_03]: This really feels like it's part of the mass of verse, but also has its own kind of feels.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm super impressed with this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also like I don't think I would be if you can't bring me into a room with the giant glowing red dragon ball or a green dragon ball Should say and to be able to then continue a conversation.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't be able to kind of move past that you know I mean so I felt very seen in that kind of set up so I thought that was fun
[SPEAKER_02]: totally totally totally I couldn't agree more with everything that you were saying Pete I do think this is really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the character dynamics here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good young hero in overhead, which is always a good place to play someone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Erkertur's son is art is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just really good, very clean.
[SPEAKER_02]: future see big super hero arts great coloring on this book as well like you were saying so definitely pick it up highly recommend picking up the first inferno go red to understand what's going on here because it really hits the ground running even though it is volume two but I'm excited to follow this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hulk smash everything about Marvel written by Ryan North art by Vincenzo Carrot 2
[SPEAKER_02]: increasingly weird things in this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Hulk vs. Dr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Strange that we ends up in data sort of times by the end of the smash.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some data source, you know, later in this series, he's going to be smashing a black hole.
[SPEAKER_02]: who will win in that fight, um, is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is everything that I want for a Ryan Dorth.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I was feeling a little conflicted while I was reading this, because I don't want to pitch it whole writers, but Ryan Dorth is so good at being like, let me write a pretty funny, very specific, mostly one shot situation for this character, a group of characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: that is relatively based in some sort of science or high concept.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's exactly what happens here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just really fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are multiple types that I laughed out now to reading this book.
[SPEAKER_02]: The leader is the villain.
[SPEAKER_02]: The leader is seeing the leader dressed up as a doctor in a strange, running away from all this time.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a very funny visual.
[SPEAKER_02]: So shout out to Vigid.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Karateu as well for
[SPEAKER_02]: perfectly matching the tune that Ryan Norris sits out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's such a fun combination of writer artists here.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, this is like, I think the title says everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a fun set up, a fun premise.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's, you know, the classic kind of like, you know, someone's going to bug the Hulk.
[SPEAKER_03]: and he's just like I can leave me alone man and uh... you know it gets kind of sat in a set up in this by the leader and uh... yeah it's just uh... it's awesome it's great the artist fun the the way the leader looks like the actor strange and how that's all done is really fun also it's just fun to see long
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm like, yeah, give me a little long there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, but yeah, this delivers, really, if you're like, oh, I don't know if I should get this or not, it's definitely worth checking out.
[SPEAKER_02]: That band number four from DC Comics, written by Matt Fraction, Art by Jorge Menez, this issue introduces a new villain called the Minitor who is arranging all organized crime, I believe, this issue to paraphrase, they say he's making it very organized and we see exactly what that means for the crime bosses of Gotham, as well as Batman.
[SPEAKER_02]: who started to realize he is in over his head.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've really been enjoying this run and I enjoyed this issue as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: The one little caveat, the thing that holds me up a little bit, is Chipsodarsky introduced something very similar in his run on Batman.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was
[SPEAKER_02]: It was called like the accountant or something who was like, I'm outside of this and I sort of help keep things organized.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just adjacent enough that I was like, ah, this feels similar to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But a trust mat fraction, a trustworthy metas, so I'm interested to see where this goes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree with everything they're saying there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't feel that way about the minute tour.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think that like a minute tour is a fun kind of labyrinth villain, so fun choice to kind of make this guy like super organized and trying to have like a secret underground kind of crime society.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was a fun moment where Batman realizes like,
[SPEAKER_03]: he's not is tuned in to Gotham as he thinks he only there's this kind of fun thing was like you don't know about you know this secret organization we think it's been things have been going smooth and Gotham so fun right where Batman's he's not usually tricks so easily so kind of fun to see him trying to play catch up great set up cool villain design um yeah so i'm on board having a good time with this
[SPEAKER_02]: Dread the Halls, 2025, from Image Comics, written by Jordan Hart and Chris Ryle, Art by Luana Vecchio, Lee Ferguson, Keith Jones, Walter Pax and Fabio Verass, was a collection of stories about the holidays, usually with some sort of a herbent to them.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is something that they did last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: They also did Dread the Hall H for Sadio.
[SPEAKER_02]: Comic Con this year, all of them are really fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought all of these stories were great creative, really funny, very dark.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a really good time picking this up, and reading it, Pete, maybe was too scary for you, but maybe it was too festive at the same time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I feel like this is a fun collection of stories.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really love the first one, the second one.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got a Santa, what about the third one on the floor?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm getting there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jesus.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you got Santa and aliens, but then, you know, the third one we get this evil wooden out story and that got really creepy and fucked up, but I also liked the art choice that made that kind of did this black and white with kind of splashes of dramatic color, which I thought really worked out well, but I'd like you're saying overall just a great.
[SPEAKER_03]: collection and kind of fun ideas a while well put together worth we're checking out sometimes in a collection you get a little bit but I feel like they did a good job of keeping the bar.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Consistently high quality if you're looking for some dark horror stories and there's no dirt of those including a title we'll be getting to later on in the stack but this one is well worth picking up very fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now the age is upon us once again in this time for the age of revelation.
[SPEAKER_01]: The revelation upon you, Pete.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you feeling the revelation?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you tasting it smelling it?
[SPEAKER_01]: How are you feeling about it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Not great, but we got three titles to talk about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kicking it off with binary number three from Marvel Written by Stephanie Phillips, Art by Gianna Belviso.
[SPEAKER_02]: I shouldn't mention this the final month of the age of Revelation.
[SPEAKER_02]: So all these third issues we're going to start talking about are the final issues of these titles.
[SPEAKER_02]: This one is about Captain Marvel has Phoenix powers.
[SPEAKER_02]: She thought she'd gray was back last issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, it's battle in prior.
[SPEAKER_02]: But also then, Jim Gray is back.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, first I like to start off by saying cool cover.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the cover.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we kind of got this fight for the Phoenix Force and the kind of twist of like it's not Gene, it's Madeline and then Carol kind of taking over and having the fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: kind of 80 spandex transformation that we all known to love when it comes to the Phoenix.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I guess fun passing of the torch, but I don't know what this means or what's going to happen, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought the art was good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I think we said this last issue, but the thing that worked for me about the series was the COVID denial section because this takes place in a town that has decided the ex-virus that is outside the dome, they've been protected from, doesn't exist anymore, they're big lied to you, they could just go outside the town, they'll be fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: that is 100% true, the only thing that's stopping it is the Phoenix Force.
[SPEAKER_02]: That part to me worked, whatever we turned, it's very weird that this is the part that worked, but whatever we turned to the townspeople and what they were going through that felt very grounded and interesting and helped flesh out, excuse me, the world of age of revelation,
[SPEAKER_02]: the stuff that didn't work for me as well was the fetics for stuff because I felt like they even make a joke about it in the issue that we've done this a million times so that was a bit of a bummer but interesting ideas even if they didn't all come together.
[SPEAKER_02]: Laura Kinney, Saber II, number three from Marvel, Read by Erica Schultz, Art by Valentina Pinty, in this issue we're following Laura Kinney, who is re-brainwashed by revelation to attack a Rocco and take the mutants that were sent there back to Earth and if the mutants are a Roccoing, don't come a knocking, I always say, right,
[SPEAKER_02]: Please stop saying that right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I always say this stop.
[SPEAKER_02]: Please stop not stop.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway Some big stuff I guess goes down to this issue as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, everything that kind of thought was kind of blown away by the big reveal at the end here Also this kind of like
[SPEAKER_03]: X-23, but not it's like saber tooth and it's like bad, but maybe there's some goodness thing as a little confusing, but hey, I'm all for it, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: You had me at X-23 and then got me confused with if it's really saber tooth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, all that aside.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was really thrown by the ending where this kid maybe murders everybody and then apocalypse is like finally now I have the chosen child and I can go through the world and I was just like, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like just from a reader's perspective, obviously, we don't know what went on behind the scenes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Erker Schultz is really good at this character stuff, and she knows what she's doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great stuff, Laura, Kenny, amazing guy Gabby.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it got lost in the whole crossoverness of everything, and maybe the compressed nature of doing this in three issues where
[SPEAKER_02]: Laura felt like she was like, well, I kind of want to support my family and now I don't to know, I've brainwashed and now I'm not, and it's just like a lot of back and forth.
[SPEAKER_02]: But a very small amount of real estate, yeah, I don't know, again, like very similar to the previous one, the character dynamics worked, it's when we got into the plot dynamics that it got confusing, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: And let's see the last one amazing X-Men number three written by J.M.K.
[SPEAKER_02]: Art by Mammood Azrar is following the team of X-Men, including cyclops who has been said to his future body and beast who has also been said to his future body, and in this issue, they find out just what revelation is up to and why they think it's going to go all wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: How'd you feel about this one?
[SPEAKER_02]: Was it a triple miss for you this week?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yes, um, I think that, uh, you know, this is tough for me because, um, I'm, I'm mad at Beast, and then he's like impressed with the evil plan.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, Beast, who the fuck are you right now?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't even know anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, but then, uh, and correct me if I'm wrong, and I probably am, but then at the end of Pocalypse, shows up with a walking Charles Xavier?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was set up a couple of issues back in tales of revelations.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's called.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But just sometimes it's like, is that really who I think it is?
[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of times it's not.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just wanted to make sure that like, okay, cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is, this is who it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I guess, like, sighting, but then I was confused by the last one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I thought,
[SPEAKER_03]: Apoclosers only roll with kids, so I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm gonna say, I actually kind of like this one just because it addressed the concerns that I had with the previous two issues, which is that it really dialed down the action immensely in this issue and focused on the character dynamics, as well as moving forward the overall plot of age of revelation.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought there was some,
[SPEAKER_02]: There was an interesting scene with Beast and this bird girl who he is at a romantic relationship with in the future But he doesn't know about there's some fun stuff with dark glob her men this is well dark bro just shoot and before like you Oh guy what how is that cool?
[SPEAKER_02]: Scott you're not going to put that side
[SPEAKER_02]: Like not that there's a fun bit where psych silock is like don't worry I got this guy's I used to be a chorus to her and they're like oh hello silock Wait, why are you wearing an accent?
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like oh no, and it just goes terribly wrong I thought that was gonna be a word for a flare you have on you know me one hundred percent So I don't know this kind of word for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's also like
[SPEAKER_02]: a surprising twist involving what's been going on with Magdito that makes me more curious to follow the made X-Men book coming out of this that I have been prior to this event, so I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was I was not high on this, but this felt to me like the spine book that I've been missing from this event all along, but granted it's also the last issue of this and we're ending this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm glad they won you over at the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's exciting.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if they're what we offer, but it gave you a little hope, it seems like.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they got like a ground rule double on that awareness.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Birds and pray, number 28, that was it for the Age of Revelation.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, birds and pray, number 28 from D.C. Comics, written by Kelly Thompson, art by Sammy Bosery, and Vincenteque, with Fentice.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the final issue of the title, the last issue of birds and pray.
[SPEAKER_02]: It all wraps up here for the blades, Pete, you're clapping.
[SPEAKER_02]: What'd you think?
[SPEAKER_03]: Get up out of your seats, folks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kelly Thompson.
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, Kelly Thompson.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is just a macula.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is just great comics.
[SPEAKER_03]: And look, it's a nice screen man who isn't creepy.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is, it gives me, I can be excited to see a nice screen truck and DC again, which is a great feeling.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know that about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I literally, uh, cool cover, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there we go, because it's a nice picture.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is a legendary run.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love this so very much.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great art, fun adventures.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was just awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was great teamwork.
[SPEAKER_03]: It ended really well.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a mutual break up at the end, which never happens, just wow, just magic from start to finish.
[SPEAKER_03]: Amazing character moments.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a great run.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say it does feel like it wraps things up a little quickly, which may have just been a function of the series got canceled, though.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't Kelly Thompson said that she...
[SPEAKER_02]: was part of the decision to cancel it rather than drag it on longer or push for dragging it on longer.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the last couple of pages feel like they jam and a bunch of things that could have used a little more breathing room potentially regardless.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, this has been a great run.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sammy Bosere's art has been incredible.
[SPEAKER_02]: In particular, Kelly Thompson, Adam Peachable, on every.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Kai Tu Barbra, I mean, we had Gargol.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just barred up just to absolutely just fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a fun bit towards the end, whether like, perhaps they will call this the Barda era and everyone's like, boo, and they're like, okay, maybe Barda and the small batch.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, all right, maybe that works.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, no, either of them work.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because Barda is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, put Kelly Tossin on a Barda Soliseries, make it happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: startling tales of Santa Claus 2025 annual from image comics written by Bino Serrano, art by Sikai, Evan Dock-Shiner, Anthony Clark, and Emmett Graham.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is that other rerun title I was looting to earlier that has a bunch of short spooky tales of Christmas.
[SPEAKER_02]: How'd you feel about this one, Pete?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, first story was adorable, you know, you got Santa, you got this kind of like soul mouse thing that's also adorable.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just amazing art.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really love the art style.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is a fun collection of stories.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, then they had rid of like a fun kind of like Santa pulp that tricks, you know, has some little tricks up his sleeve.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just thought this was just really creative, but I also really love the art style of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: They did a great job of really having a cool through line.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would say this is worth it for the art alone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I've never heard that before.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a cool saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: You should start saying that more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: The sea kayak art reminded me a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like the, oh, my gosh.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: The animation style for, like, the island of Bissfit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: The, the, the claymation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not claymation though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's stop-motion or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a specific name for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's claymation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who is, no, it's not claymation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever it is, I'm blanking out words at this point to be big, but it looks like that, but still on the page, and essentially comics.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Evan Dock Schederart, always great.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll look it up while you're talking about the next one.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Ultimate X-Men, number 22, from Marvel, by Peach Memorial.
[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't picked up this title for a while, but I thought it would be worth checking back in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we're heading towards the end of the Ultimate Universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we do get a wrap-up of the main plot of the series here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like with a final battle, and I'll tell you what, this is really gross and very cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you want to talk about worth it for the art alone.
[SPEAKER_03]: You had me at Peach Memorial, I mean, that's just I'm here to see what kind of creative weird cool stuff is going to happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, let this artist do anything they want and I will show up and buy it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yes, please more and yeah creative creepy crazy all the things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, uh, first of all, I'll just mention I was thinking of, oh my god, I just lost it rank and bass, so there's that, and then there you go, I don't know, I still haven't felt the animation style anyway, there's a really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to stop talking so I can Google this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cheetah and Cheetah robbed the Justice League number five from DC Comics, by Greg Raka, Art by Nicholas Scott.
[SPEAKER_02]: This issue, they're finally robbing the Justice League.
[SPEAKER_02]: They haven't been really fond of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's time for five issues and it happens and I thought this ice was great, but also I've loved every issue of the series So what about you Pete?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had a blast and happened.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was so excited.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great our great action This was a great issue tight package Yeah, I love the the robbery the whole set up
[SPEAKER_03]: It made sense when it's first started, I was like, Chew that how dare you think you'd get away with this.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then when you hear the plan, you're like, okay, this is cool, I'm fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I'm having a blast with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I really enjoy this.
[SPEAKER_02]: The art is great from Nicole, this guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's great face stuff, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited to see what happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is twisty attorney.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just the reactions between Cheetah and Wonder Woman just really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's good, probably stop motion animation, but I feel like it's the, that's something I'll sign it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, Rook Exodus, number nine from Ghost Machine and David's comics written by Jeff Johns, art by Jason Fubak.
[SPEAKER_02]: In this issue, our dudes with animal masks who control animals meet some sort of man who control spiders, spider or man, if you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I, which sounds very exciting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope somebody does something more with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, it's pretty terrifying because Pete hates spiders.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's very true.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought that like, I thought this worked because what's the creepiest thing in the whole universe spiders?
[SPEAKER_03]: And if there was one person had spider powers, everybody else would just be, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So spiders win.
[SPEAKER_03]: you know with all the other kind of people who have like big powers or other animal powers or whatever shout outs to rope big I just feel that like the fact that like they were like they look under the max and the human was like help it's fuck it's funny they're the creepiest
[SPEAKER_03]: was just as someone who thinks spiders are creepy work on many levels.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I enjoyed the choice that they made here that spiders win in this animal kind of fucked up world.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I thought this was a fun kind of twist to we you know we've been slowly kind of gathering information and this was kind of like came out of that field but thought it was fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Venom 252 from Marvel, written by All-Yueng, Jordan Morris and Tom Defelco, art by Paco Medina, Hesus Seize and Ron Friends in this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're getting three stories of kind of mash up stories.
[SPEAKER_02]: The first one, we find Venom pretending to be Spider-Bad and the second one, we get where this came from, originally I believe this was the story, where this costume came from, and then they decided to use it in the main story.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, where it's, uh, forget what it is, but it's, like, Eddie Parker, the Venomus Spider-Man, the symbiotic Spider-Man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just a weird mashup world there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we get a classic tale of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm from a classic team, Tom Defalko, and Ron Friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought this was a great package.
[SPEAKER_02]: The first story was so funny, like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, laugh out loud, funny while this issue and I'll just mention this is too much information But I was like Really sick when I was reading this book and like I couldn't feel my nose and I couldn't feel my face and I was reading it I can't be like
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's impressive that when you're in that much pain, the fact that it's that funny, that even when you don't want to laugh, it's making you laugh, that's impressive, you know?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I brought it up, Pete.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's exactly why I brought it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I thought you'd do a race with you then.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's the real road big here, I wonder?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought this was a blast, really funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: The venom being like, you know, I can't smile because it'll know it's me great.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also the kind of doc, I can immediately knowing what's going on was fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I tell you where it didn't get fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you will be really surprised to hear this is MJ asking out the anti-venom to for coffee.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, uh, uh, Oh, Jared Flint, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_02]: What's it covered in goop like this I don't know what yeah, I'm not sure I don't know where I was going with that I really like the story by jitter Morris as well I thought he did a great job with this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a fun weird mashup world that I would love to visit more and just get a classic story from Tom de Falco and Ron friends was a lot of fun as well
[SPEAKER_03]: I first thought a Jordan Morris, maybe Jordan D. White was a, you know, faking a pen name or something, but it turns out Jordan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jordan Morris is a quick guy, a real person.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had about the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: No person, yes, yeah, I just had a moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just had a moment where I was like, this would be kind of funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now just to check, you are Pete Higgs if the guy who is in charge, nope, Department of no, no, different.
[SPEAKER_03]: He'd bring it to you.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've been doing the show a long time together.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I just assume that all people the same first name are the same person.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a horrible assumption.
[SPEAKER_03]: That would really make your life just end.
[SPEAKER_03]: You just go, that makes no sense that you would do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: JSA 14 from DC Comics written by Jeff Limeer art by Gavin Greedry.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are continuing at the JSA year one story line as the team slowly comes together, solving a bunch of mysteries.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe rewriting some of those stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know what's going on with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this arc.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said this with the last issue as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gavin Greedry is great for this sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And J.S.A.
[SPEAKER_02]: kind of never works better than what it's said this like World War II, post-World War II era that it's supposed to be in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the characters just work there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Putting them in the noir, putting them in the vigilante bed on the street.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Love the art.
[SPEAKER_03]: Love the story.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really love the end too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cool Wonder Woman Adam stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is just great art, great story.
[SPEAKER_03]: Such a great combination in amazing hands and their killing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: something is killing the children number 45 from boobs to do is written by James Todd of the fourth art by Werther Deleterra.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are continuing the arc that is found Erica in a snowy the shining type hotel with a mentor trying to kill some monsters and save the kids there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I gotta say this is maybe the best issue of this
[SPEAKER_02]: As much as I don't want to give it up to it, but just it is right, like a lot of times this issue is like here's 20 page wash of what's going on with Erica like it's just sort of like more of that and it's always good, but it always just kind of is this one
[SPEAKER_02]: really abs of the stakes, a measureably here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was really well done, really emotional.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is a phenomenal issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with all that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, um, I, I don't want to say it's a great issue that when the while that you said, just because I've been loving all of it, but also just great cover, just really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's an amazing tone for this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this continues to be such a bad-ass amazing book.
[SPEAKER_03]: JT4 is killing this And many ways and so yeah, just so happy to get this story and just as just such a smart choice to make with this book right now I'm absolutely loving this can't say enough about the art the world building
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean this is so impressive.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got this story in little chunks and it's been spread out for years and I've just been enjoying every little morsel and every issue that they put out and it's just a really impressive work.
[SPEAKER_02]: fantastic for number six from marvel written by ride north art by emberto remost lots going on this issue including the ff fighting bunch of monsters at the beginning per the cover of the different monsters and then most of the issues taken up with Maria Hill
[SPEAKER_02]: explaining that she's restarting shield and wants to restart the future foundation as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think, Pete?
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, this would, I mean, first off, Roberto Ramos' art is just phenomenal any time.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's on a project I'll to show for the art alone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, this is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had a blast with this fun Sue, you know, kind of trick and robots, but bending light, awesome nerdy stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Love that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm really cool, kind of reveal at the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm sure Galactus just wants to say hi to everybody, Sue Storm.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: No big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of fun butts in here, but this also felt like too many things going on in one issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you say some fun butts in this issue?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what you just said?
[SPEAKER_02]: But I said, oh, okay, that makes more sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: The, like I said earlier in the stack, Ryan Norris strength is writing these done in one mystery or weird science things, or something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this just takes on too many things.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like providing a bridge from what world's under tube to what's coming up afterwards as well as the next arc of fantastic four.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just like,
[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed all of the things individually, but it's quite make a cohesive issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, maybe it'll come back and add up later.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm certainly going to keep reading this, but that was, that's my take in.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just thought the alphabet fingers was a little too much and was a little creepy.
[SPEAKER_02]: that was creepy, but it was fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Poison Ivy, number 39 from TC Comics written by G. Willow Wilson, art by Marcio Takara, and this issue after coming to a bit of it on your stop at the spill in the tea.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Poison Ivy and Jim and Charm.
[SPEAKER_03]: jet for nature go out in this issue both emotionally and physically you're okay no I'm not okay because I don't believe jet works for any HR because this is against all HR regulations you know to have a kind of relationship like this so I think DC should be contacting HR about Janet but then Harley shows up at the end and I'm like
[SPEAKER_03]: how's this going to all unfold so yeah it's it's all upside down but the art is phenomenal this has been such a fun cool ride that they've been doing and uh i'm i'm shipping Harley and Ivy so uh Janet broke my heart you know i was hoping for Janet and killer crack but you know that didn't happen so now we got to go back to other ships
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a great issue of this book with some real upsetting underlying horror happening throughout here, and reading to the surprise, Ed of the issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, I'm surprised you didn't say great cover on this issue with the grippy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Licking blood off of her fingers.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a close-up on her.
[SPEAKER_02]: She cheated.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, creepypums.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very creepy, and it's supposed to be creepy, so it's really well done.
[SPEAKER_02]: This title is always great, but this one finally getting into it with Janet and Ivy, I thought was, well, very much needed at very well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where are you, where are you on the ships, bro?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's hardly an ivy, but I think it's very interesting how casual and relatively open they are about the relationship, even though you get that paddocked moment with ivy agenda at the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know, cool stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kill all Immortals, 2-2 from Dark Horse Comics, by Zach Kaplan, art by Fiko Asio, our Norse Immortals have become mortal, but they want their immortality back.
[SPEAKER_02]: or at least they want to not be killed by Genghis Khan and his immortal family.
[SPEAKER_02]: It a lot of mythology dump in this issue and a spark of a new romance for our main character.
[SPEAKER_02]: What did you think?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I first off I just want to say I'm sure a lot of people didn't want to be killed by Genghis Khan, but that didn't work out for a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_03]: but uh no this comic here uh first off amazing cover really badass kind of cool set the tone uh yeah love the twist at the end this continues to be great cool art style uh great story solid action uh type package right here
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like how they're fleshing out the mythology and the scale of this book quite a bit, great art from Fico, Ocio, throughout.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited to see how it goes because it's going in some surprising directions that I did not see coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: Death Dog, number two from the Holy Comics, written by Bryce England, art by Alan Robinson.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the second and final issue of this title, but I'm fully befriending a robot dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hey.
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Philly is good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like Philly.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_03]: Fun cover.
[SPEAKER_03]: The potato bit is hilarious every time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is just, you know, classic story about a boy and his killer robot dog.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: We've seen it a thousand times.
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, it's horrible how the police treat all those people in this comic.
[SPEAKER_03]: But amazing art.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, classic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, a book very satirical throughout.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was bummed there.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is only two issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they say, hey, buy it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we'll make more and I do hope they do because this is really nice start for this.
[SPEAKER_02]: It really just looks like it's beginning at the end there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a lot more they could do in this world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Last but not least from robot dog to robot robot the turinator Santa Claus is coming to down number one from dynamite written by Pauline again a show art by Kendall good we had Pauline a good a show on the podcast talk about this book a couple of months back so check that out but per the title it is Christmas time in the future and the resistance is talking about old Christmas while they're hunted by a turbinator dressed as Santa Claus peat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Take it away.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was a fucking blast.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe you had this all the way at the end of the stack I feel like it should be brought up more in the beginning because it was just so fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's a great idea I just I thought like I read the title and I was like this is ridiculous hilarious cover But man the one liners that kind of
[SPEAKER_03]: fun that they were having this book really won me over the ET bit was hysterical yeah I mean I just had a blast with this I was so surprised by this comic the writing was so sharp the art was amazing the twist in terms of this this is just fantastic just absolutely just such a blast
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, this is very fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: The just the mirror image of seeing a Terminator or a Santa Claus suit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how they did melt his beard, but they melted his skin off.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have questions there and that's okay though.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a very fun time.
[SPEAKER_02]: It gives you to liveers exactly what you want based on the title.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, really does.
[SPEAKER_02]: At folks, that is it for the stack of your life.
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