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[SPEAKER_01]: a factual data creation facility production.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Recorded in front of a live audience of one, it's the OF anti-podcast for the last time in 2025.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's your host, Jim Shafer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the OFNT podcast episode 301, which I'm calling, yearly wrap-up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope you had a great Christmas holiday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a nice quiet one, which is exactly how I like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The gifts were fuel, but very much appreciated.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The food was delicious as usual.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, the company was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My company, I mean my lovely wife and my son.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's on the New Year's!

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I guess I'll start this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The last episode of 2020-25 right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: tech news.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course this was a very slow week for tech news.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Most of the stories were actually written a while ago and say for dropping during Christmas in New Year's week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now come to the slow wind up towards the spring tech season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: From what I've been seeing on my news feeds, expect to be paying more for tech this coming year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As memory and manufacturing

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing well as far as tech goes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then again, maybe I should have upgraded to a new Mac mini.

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[SPEAKER_02]: To late now, if you are a fan of the still new iPhone Air, well I've got some good news for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: According to an article on nine to five Mac.com, a leaker who haunts a Chinese social media

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[SPEAKER_02]: This claiming that Apple will debut a second generation of its thinnest in iPhone next September.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course this contradicts early reports that either the iPhone Air has been completely dropped from the iPhone lineup.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or that it will be two years until a redesigned dual camera version is released.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fixed Focus Digital also predicted that the second generation Air will in fact be getting that other camera.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, supply chain analyst outfit, the information, says that Apple will be also lowering the price of the iPhone Air.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was with you until the price lowering prediction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With memory and manufacturing costs, steeply rising next year, as you pointed out in the introduction, how can this prediction be considered valid?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's a good point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Perhaps Apple will construct this new iPhone Air using plastic instead of metal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I am.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Could you imagine a phoneist in a ziPhone Air made from plastic?

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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Both fixed-focus digital and the information agree that the iPhone 17E has entered mass production and will be introduced in a spring launch event.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The information also predicts that the iPhone 17E will be a small upgrade from the 16E, gaining a C1x modem and mags

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[SPEAKER_02]: No dynamic island, no promotion display, and probably no center stage selfie camera either.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Disappointing sure, but you got to remember.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The E-Series of iPhones are a replacement for the SE Series of iPhones.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The mission for the SE in, now the E-Series phones, is to bring a no-frills iPhone at a reasonable price to market.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This model serves as an affordable entry point into Apple's ecosystem for young consumers, not so well off consumers, consumers who want a good basic iPhone, and old-forks like myself who, unlike me, aren't nerds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Though many would disagree with me, especially those who work for the tech press, I think the E series hits that mark and hits it quite well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Being that I'm an old-school nerd, I would need a 120Hz refresh rate in the Dynamic Island before I'd consider an E-series for myself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I'll have long to wait though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably within, I don't know, about three years the iPhone E-series will have all those features.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tim Cook's top priority product could finally take shape next year is the headline of an article from nine to five Mac.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is Tim Apple's top priority product?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm asking for a friend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that would be augmented reality glasses.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The article quotes Bloomberg.com and Bloomberg's Leaker DeJure Mark German as predicting that we'll be seeing these spectacles come sometime in 2027.

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[SPEAKER_02]: According to German, Apple will be releasing a version of these glasses in 2020-6, but they won't have augmented reality functionality.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, they'll just be a stop-cap product that will feature Siri and function as an iPhone accessory.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Much like the Apple Watch does now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Apple must be feeling the heat from meta and Samsung.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The giant fruit company doesn't want to fall behind like they did with AI.

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[SPEAKER_02]: These Siri-based glasses will also serve as a basis for the future augmented reality overlay version.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is all well and good, but I doubt we'll be seeing the augmented reality version until 2028 or beyond.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Samsung will likely beat Apple to the punch here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Being a prescription lens glasses wearer myself, I am interested in this product.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I fear it'll come too late to market for me to even consider bothering with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now what would be an end of the year episode without an in-memorium section?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of people, MacRoovers.com, but together a list of devices that Apple discontinued in 2025.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And most were replaced by new models, while some weren't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For iPhones we said goodbye to the iPhone 16 Pro Max, which was succeeded by the iPhone 17 Pro Max.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The 16 Pro, which was succeeded by the 17 Pro, the iPhone 15 Plus, the iPhone 15, the iPhone 14 Plus, the iPhone 14,

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[SPEAKER_02]: My fans and Apple watches were all replaced with updated models, but the M2 chip 13-inch MacBook Air, which hung around longer than expected, was discontinued, probably to be replaced by that A series-chipped Powered MacBook.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the M1 13-inch MacBook Air is still available at Walmart, but when the A-Series chip so-called a cheap MacBook Rives, that M1 Air will be discontinued.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, unless I forget.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The old Lightning cable disappeared completely in 2025, and favor of the now widely adopted USB-C cable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Popular YouTube channel, Jerry Rig Everything, managed to get a hold of an example of the new Samsung Galaxy Z tri-fold phone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow!

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[SPEAKER_02]: The channel puts phones through torture tests to see how durable they really are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately for the Galaxy Z tri-fold, it didn't fare as well as the previous Z-fold models.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The tri-fold phone did well during the heat and scratch tests, but the foldable screen material is still soft like its predecessors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, that's to be expected.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The big problems were with the dirt and bend tests.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It appears that the tri-fold phone isn't very resistant to pocket-lint, a sand, or dirt in general.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You could hear a grinding sound from the hinges, which is an important part of the Galaxy Z tri-fold.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This dirt problem can contribute to premature failure of those hinges.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The bend test was a disaster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As one bend of the screens in the wrong direction causes the display to go dark.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As I've, in many have long suspected, foldable phones are much more delicate than non-foldable types, and the more folds are are, while the more delicate the phone is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The current state of foldable phones, especially these new trifold types, make them a bad investment in my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Until technology catches up, I wouldn't consider purchasing one of these.

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[SPEAKER_02]: According to an article on 925 google.com, the big G is going to let you do something with your Gmail account that could save you some hassle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You mean like stopping them from scraping data from your mailboxes?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, no, but that would be nice, wouldn't it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What Google is going to let you do is change the username on your Gmail account.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Currently, to accomplish this, you have to create a new Gmail account and transfer everything over to the newly created account.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This can be quite the task, depending on how much email you receive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This also benefits Google itself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: While allowing users to change their user names, they'll be less new accounts being created, and this will make deleting old unused accounts easier to accomplish.

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[SPEAKER_02]: However, this new feature is based on a recently updated Google support page in Hindi, and that's the only place that appears at so far.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do feel Google will implement this feature Gmail wide though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's because it's a true win-win situation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to bed it comes late for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I currently have two Gmail accounts that I actually use.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When it's for this podcast and the other is for a semi-personal use.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All other Gmail accounts I've created over the years are dormant.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've migrated my mission essentially email to other supposedly more secure services.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As far as I know, the secure email services don't scrape my data.

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[SPEAKER_02]: According to the Google Hindi support document, the ability to change your Gmail accounts username will be rolling out to user slowly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There are some restrictions to this new policy though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The main limitation is that if you do change your username, you won't be able to create a new Gmail account for 12 months.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can read about the other restrictions on nine to five google.com at your leisure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's the last text story I'm going to report on until next year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That old gag.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Check I'm using.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So what new text did I get for Christmas?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not much, really.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got a pair of the third generation of AirPods Pro, and a case for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But for my lovely wife.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wink, wink.

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[SPEAKER_02]: From my son, my gun electric razor for shaving my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can that really be considered tech, though?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, close enough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, see what I did there, you know, razor-close?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to get about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This Phillips head shaver replaces a cheap barbersoll branded one that I bought for about 10 bucks at a local discount outlet last year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I used barbersoll razors for shaving my face and used to use them for shaving my head as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're going for that Mr. Clean look, are you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was looking up to every taint, most of my hair until my late 40s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Once it started going though, it went fast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The problem was my male patterned baldness looked uneven and stupid, so I decided to just shave all my hair off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of barbersaw, the company has just withdrawn from the razor cartridge market, and starting next week, they will only be selling shaving cream products and disposable razors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess that's why that electric head shaver was so cheap.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm only going to miss those razor blade quarters as though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, maybe you should start a new section dedicated to grooming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I get what you're saying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I bought my wife, a 13 inch iPad Air, along with a simple case for it for Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My son uses my old second generation 13-inch iPad Pro, and of course I have an M4 chip 13-inch iPad Pro.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A poor wife was using an 11-inch bass model iPad from 2023.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He probably uses her iPad more than my son and I use our iPads combined.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The iPad is her main computing device.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So a bigger screen would be better for her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be getting her a Bluetooth keyboard case to go along with her new iPad for her upcoming birthday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't yet decided on whether to get her Apple's keyboard case or going with a third party solution.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got my son, a Samsung two-terabyte internal SSD for his gaming rig, along with an electric toothbrush,

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[SPEAKER_02]: As a bonus for my wife, she inherits my second generation's AirPods Pro.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Being I now have the third generation pros.

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[SPEAKER_02]: These were replaced her first generation AirPods Pro she was using.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I spent much of Christmas morning setting up first my new AirPods, then my wife's hand me down AirPods, and finally her new iPad Air.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course my son didn't require any assistance for installing his new SSD.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As when I was setting up my own iPad Pro back in October, I couldn't use my wife's old iPad in order to transfer the data over to the new one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead, I was forced to use a backup of her older iPad to do so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I knew iPhones were able to use our older iPhones to set up the new one, so I don't know what the problem is with using the same method for iPads.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's most likely a U problem.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It probably is while setting up the new iPad Air, I immediately saw how much better its screen is in comparison to a world-based model.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The sound is much better too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The AirPods were simple to set up, both my new third generation and my wife's second generation hand me downs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of my third generation AirPods, Apple has finally provided rubber tips that actually fit my ears.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In the past, I had to resort to buying third party tips in order to get a good seal for my AirPods.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, I've compared my second and third generation AirPods to each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is a slight improvement in sound and noise cancellation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The third generation pods have reduced some of the muddiness of the second generations, but I still prefer the sound of my old beatfit pearls that I use while exercising.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really have been messed around with my new AirPods yet, so I'll update you when I get the chance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The headshaver my son gave me is a huge step up from what I had been using.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll no longer require the use of razor blade for shaving my head.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, I'm so impressed with the Philips headshaver that I'm considering ditching my Panasonic Arc4 in favor of a Philips i9000 razor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That electric razor works as well as the headshaver, I might become razor blade free.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So last Wednesday I did a live Peloton Ride reserve for champion members.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what are you a champion of?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let me explain.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Peloton has instituted different levels as you earn points performing various workouts and tasks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Levels range from bronze to legend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Champion is one level below legend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The idea is that you get rewards for the different levels.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the awards is access to live rides exclusively for your level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Last week, Peloton had a ride for legend members, and this week, a champion members.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if the other levels will get their own rides or not, but if they do, well, that kinda defeats the purpose of the whole reward system.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't you think?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Supposedly in the future there will be different types of rewards, but I can't imagine what they'll be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not my favorite instructor or music genre, but Cody was on good behavior for once.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's probably because he only had one last class until he went on his holiday break.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't the best live ride I've taken, but it wasn't the worst I've had either.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This level in reward thing was launched at the same time, Peloton police their new lineup of AI enhanced hardware called a cross-training with Peloton IQ.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A ton IQ is just a camera mounted on the bikes display, based on an older now discontinued product, which I don't recall the name of right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard that this new hardware line is in selling well, which explains why Platon is offering steep discounts on them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For about 600 bucks more than I paid for my regular original bike, I could get a cross-training bike plus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Besides the Pelotoniq module, which I wouldn't be using much, I'd gain a larger monitor that can tilt, and auto-resistance setting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Either would be worth it to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, if Peloton offered some sort of trade-in, well, then I'd consider upgrading.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, as the year 2025 winds down on some expected products from Apple and others did make an appearance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The updated Apple TV streaming box, which was rumored to have a camera or at least the ability to connect to an external camera was a no-show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the only product that would have been an instant purchase for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Apple's Echo Show competitors to remain a rumor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: probably due to the updated digital assistance theory not being ready yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not really interested in this product anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The mock-ups of it resemble a full-size Apple HomePod with an iPad mini attached to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It looks as if Dr. Frankenstein himself had designed it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The price for this thing will be too high also.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The HIP-based MacBook hasn't yet made it to market.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I have no interest in this product for myself, but I do have six grandsons that I would consider buying one for when they come of age.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Updated AirPods Max are long overdue, but then again, I don't think the market for these over the year headphones is large enough for Apple to pay much attention to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Outside of the giant fruit company, the one product that I was anticipating and would have certainly purchased was the Tesla self-driving car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In late spring, Elon Musk announced that Tesla was going to produce a true self-driving car that would come in at a price of $25,000.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It would be released before the end of 2025.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well it didn't happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This automobile would have solved a couple of problems for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like fewer trips to Walmart with the one who must be obeyed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That would have been the major problem solved along with saving wear and terror my primary vehicle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess the Tesla self-driving car is what we used to call vaporware.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tech products I'm considering for purchase in 2026 are new over the year headphones for editing episodes of my podcast, and that's about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now maybe a better soundbar from my home entertainment system eventually.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My next iPhone will probably be the 20th anniversary model that's due in 2027.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully my Mac mini should last me until at least 2028.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Though I'd like a new display for it, but that's not a priority right now for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What tech are you considering for 2026?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Entertainment News During the downtime of the holiday season, you're retired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Your whole life has become downtime.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that sort of true, but because of the lack of stuff to get together for the podcast and not having to worry about shopping for presents and things, I had a little more time on my hands.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I've been using that time perusing my paid subscription services in search of something to watch, specifically a movie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Needless to say, I've been disappointed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's because I'm out of touch with modern trends or the industry is just isn't producing movies that I would like to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Perhaps it's a bit of both.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank goodness there are plenty of good and great television series being made.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a few that I'm watching in season, and a few I'll catch up on while my lovely wife is away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's leaving early next month for her annual trip to the old country.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's hope that 206 brings a rebirth of well-written and entertaining movies back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm up for a gritty private detective movie that doesn't take place in Los Angeles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that too much to ask?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's looking at you, kid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No one will get that reference.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: podcast news.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As I reported on previously, iOS 26.2 brought with it a welcome change city Apple podcast listening app automatically generated chapters in podcast links are now live.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The podcast links are generated by the host mentioning the shows during the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The chapters are obvious, but the podcast links are not

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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead, they're right under the show notes if there are any in their own separate section.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It takes a while for the transcript chapters and links to appear, though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The view them you'll just have to be patient.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Regardless, these updates are a solid and greatly improved the once-inemic Apple Podcasts list in the app.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If Apple ever decides to add live streaming with notifications, well, it would become my main podcast listing app.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do most of my podcasts listening while driving somewhere in my car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not much else is happening in podcasting right now, so I'll give you my year-end state-of-the podcast report.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it going to include things about audio interfaces?

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[SPEAKER_02]: While audio interfaces will be mentioned, I won't go into detail.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll save that for next year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Over the year, I've unfortunately lost more listeners, not many, but I wish I had gained listeners instead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In order to do so, I've upgraded my audio interface twice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: First with a Personus ES2, which sounded better than when I had been using, but required more work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In October, I took advantage of a sale on Amazon and bought a road roadcaster duo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The duo is a very capable device, but ease of use is not in its product description.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It does have microphone presets that are supposed to make all processing settings for you, but I didn't find any of them suitable for my uses.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I always come off sounding bass heavy and muddy when I use those presets.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Information on how to use the settings manually is not readily available even on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I have my audio sound to where I like it now, so it's on to learning the other

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[SPEAKER_02]: I may miss him around with other interfaces, but the roadcaster duo is what I'm sticking with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be trying out new things during next year, rolling them out slowly instead of changing everything at once, might even start up the old fringe dispatches show again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If I do, I don't know how long it will last, because I get frustrated reporting on political things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So why would you dip your toes back into politics again?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll give it one more try.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The format will be revamped from what it was in previous iterations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll let you know when fringe dispatches, relances if I do decide to relance it that is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would like to have guests and do some remote reporting on the OFNT podcast in the future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm working on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have all the equipment I need, so that's not a concern.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm open to suggestions on how to improve the OFNT podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any recommendations for me?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Email me at ofntpodcast at gmail.com.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll give you a shout-out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll wrap this all up by giving you a list of my favorite podcasts from 2025.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The podcast I most listened to was the No Agenda podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Adam Curry and John C. Devorek host this show and have been doing so since 2007.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Their specialty is deconstructing the news media.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For new stories, I listen to the Daily Tea Podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those stories mostly concern happening in the UK.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They do cover items from all around the globe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Daily Tea Podcast is from the Daily Telegraph News Organization and they produce a stable, a very informative shows, while at least in my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For news about Apple, I listen to the Mac Roomer Show podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the few that doesn't get political.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But news about the podcasting industry, specifically about the podcast index and podcasting 2.0, I listen to the aptly named podcasting 2.0 podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's hosted by Adam Curry and his both informative and entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Most podcasts I listen to these days are audio dramas, either they're about a dystopian future or horror.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just list their names without a description.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The no sleep podcast, which is the granddaddy of them all, the strata, the gentleman from hell, ominous thrill, haunted the audio drama, conversations with ghosts, the anti-query

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[SPEAKER_02]: the sleep wake cycle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well these are the podcasts that I listen to the most, check them out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Most are independently produced.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you have any recommendations for me, just try me an email and I'll check out your recommendation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The music is playing this episode 3-0-1 of the OFN-T podcast, and it's the last episode of 2025, begins its ending.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope you enjoyed this episode, and enjoyed making it for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: To like what you heard, well you can make a donation use the link in the show notes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Any and old donations will be greatly appreciated.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can always reach me at ofntpodcast at gmail.com, and that's only if you're so inclined.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't join here in front of you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember, don't listen to what they say.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Watch what they do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm telling you for the last time this year, get off my lawn.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Stay skeptical.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be before I go!

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to wish you a happy and prosperous New Year!

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[SPEAKER_02]: See you next year!

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't!

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[SPEAKER_00]: Happy New Year!

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[SPEAKER_00]: Happy New Year!

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[SPEAKER_00]: Happy New Year, y'all!

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[SPEAKER_00]: Happy New Year!

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, British AI guy, do your thing for the last time this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that folks is the end of the show.

