[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to the Mastering Rout Building Podcast, everybody I'm your host, Bill Faulkner.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a little bit something different and fun and exciting for you today.
[SPEAKER_02]: With an eye towards the upcoming holiday season and all of those fishermen and anglers that can be difficult to buy for on your shopping list.
[SPEAKER_02]: Back in 2023, I had the opportunity to get out of what had been my 30 year career in health care and get into
[SPEAKER_02]: The fishing rod component business, when I purchased a English resource and became the North and South American distributor for Fuji, a rod guling components.
[SPEAKER_02]: And besides representing the very best brand of rod guling components in the world, one of the really cool things about working in English resource is I'm required to go to Japan at least twice a year.
[SPEAKER_02]: WoW is me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so difficult.
[SPEAKER_02]: At the confess that I was completely ignorant of Japan prior to my trips with Fuji, I had never been to Asia other than to India, have no Asian language skills.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really knew very little about the culture.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so for the last three years in these two-week intervals, I've been on this deep dive and saturation and immersion to...
[SPEAKER_02]: to understand the Japanese culture and history and food and traditions.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I have to say, I'm absolutely in love with this country.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the things that I really was kind of peripherally aware of has never really taken off in the States.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard of it before.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd sort of seen it before.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a big notion of what it was, is geotaku.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Gio Taku is a combination of two words, Gio just means fish, and Taku literally transmitted, translated means like stone print or stone carving, which is a way that the Japanese used to print.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so colloquially, it's almost like calling a tissue, a Kleenex or a Soda, a Coke.
[SPEAKER_02]: You just call it a Taku is a print.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, um,
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I have become a very big fan of this very traditional style of art in Japan, whereby I'm simplifying.
[SPEAKER_02]: And obviously, I'm not the artist.
[SPEAKER_02]: You catch a fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a remarkable fish you want to remember for the rest of your life.
[SPEAKER_02]: You dried off and treated a certain way.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a few techniques.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the techniques is you coat the fish in ink or some kind of a medium.
[SPEAKER_02]: and then drape a piece of canvas or cloth or silk over it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you do it right, and there's a lot of skill involved to get it right, and you remove it, you have a geotaku, a print of this fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I've just been enamored with this stuff, and I've watched some YouTube videos and
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, listen to some podcasts and done a little bit of online research and you can not imagine my surprise when a few months ago, I'm sitting outside at Zeke's Marina, eating at their outdoor bar, the name of which escapes me, but it's one of the best restaurants in Orange Beach and you can get there by boat.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so my wife and daughter and I love to go there and I'm sitting there and I'm wondering if I've had too many Palomas because I look over to the
[SPEAKER_02]: jumbo red snapper.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking I was like probably a 24 or 25 pound red snapper good one which we used to see all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't see as many anymore and then they start painting it and I look at my wife my daughter and I said I think they're doing geotaku
[SPEAKER_01]: And they said, what the heck is geotalka and I said, hold on, wait here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm coming right back and walked over and met today's guests.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so please welcome Nikki passions and gin Cox, who were in fact doing geotalka.
[SPEAKER_02]: So welcome to the mastering rod building podcasts, ladies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for having us, Bill.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am so delighted to have you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we have to, I have to tell one on me like, it's not unusual.
[SPEAKER_02]: to have a technical difficulty or a scheduling conflict or something to have to reschedule a podcast once.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes even twice.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll give y'all this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You aren't quitters and thank goodness for it, because how many times did we have to reschedule?
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like five or six times.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, we've been trying to get, we've been on the books every week for like since summertime and as we sit here, it's, you know, one of the last, it's the last week in October and we're finally getting it done.
[SPEAKER_02]: So thank you for your patience and being willing to hang in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: But let me tell you a little bit more about my guests.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Nikki passions is a,
[SPEAKER_02]: ceramic specialist and kind of yacht beautician and and I mean that seriously these are people who can absolutely take your boat.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's soul shine, yacht works and this is not your average deep clean.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is pretty exceptional and special you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: boat cleaning.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so she does that.
[SPEAKER_02]: She is also obviously she runs a website which we'll talk about today where she is the CEO artist and designer.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's called Notical Passions that focuses on geotaku in all kinds of formats in pillows, in clothing, in note cards, and stationary, a lot of really cool stuff which is fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know there's definitely going to be a bunch of people
[SPEAKER_02]: some Giotaku for me for the holiday season this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're also an on location photographer at Passion Fruit Photography.
[SPEAKER_02]: And just so everybody gets this, she spells her last name P-A-S-C-H-E-N.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of a wordplay with, you know, nautical passions and passion fruit photography.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then she's joined also by her sidekick.
[SPEAKER_02]: and the Robin to her Batman, but better because they're female and more versatile and that's Jen Cox.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know what surprised me more ladies that, you know, Nikki, I'll talk to you a little bit first, but I was so surprised to see this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd never seen it in Alabama.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then in talking to you, you're not new to this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've been printing these fish since something like
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, how in the world did you get into it or even know what it was like to this got to be an interesting story.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you share it with us really cool happen stance.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was fishing the it was the Pradito key yacht club lost key insure near shore fishing tournament.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And coming up to the captain's meeting, we're walking around, looking at all the prizes on the tables, checking stuff out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there was this gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_00]: It had to have been a 24-inch red fish, nice slot red fish, that this young lady that worked for the Alabama Marine Resources Department had
[SPEAKER_00]: metallic paints and on a black rice paper.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's still Chris.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really popped.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, um, and I looked at her and I was like, I'm going to win that print.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And would you know I did?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just you've been doing the, you talk you for so long.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe you must have, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I won the print and that's kind of what that's what started me on that journey of learning about fish prints because that was back in a time, you know, way back in the day before you could find all this information.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this one on the internet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and yeah, it just kind of snowballed from there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember her name this this artist who did the initial print or no?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't know if I should at least do not and if it comes to you or you dig it up, let me know we'll put it in a link to the article.
[SPEAKER_02]: I always love giving people credit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder she has any idea that you've been doing this all this time and then it's turned into this business for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I ended up gifting the print itself to my ex who was the charter cat or was our captain at the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't have access to it, but I mean, I could ask him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my tell you.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd love to give her the shout out, you know, like she may have no idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're a photographer.
[SPEAKER_02]: You sort of work in all kinds of media, I mean, obviously you're an artist.
[SPEAKER_00]: not really uh it was a way we had caught a mess of flounder and white trout and speckle trout and we were bored.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was miserable cold outside so we were like hey let's try this in the garage and see what we can make out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and my love for fishing has grown since coming on the coast.
[SPEAKER_00]: I used to be fresh water and then of course, you know, the biodiversity that we have here in the northern Gulf is just incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so like my goal was really, I want to, I want to print every species from the northern Gulf that I possibly can.
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be cool too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's well, but, you know, we like print them for others as well and absolutely trophies any idea how many species you've
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh gosh, I would say we're border lining, pushing about 30 species.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, all right, I'm gonna put you on the list because I am a dedicated slow pitch jigger.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the things that's interesting is as we're dropping these jigs in anything from various shallow to very deep water.
[SPEAKER_02]: We often turn up some really interesting fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I could, if we were together, I could double your list of species like,
[SPEAKER_02]: in the next few months as long as the weather permits and we can, if this wind will stop blowing and we can actually get out there, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be the better, the more dynamic the better, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why tell you what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the ones, one of the really interesting things about deep drop and, you know, some people say 600 feet, some people say it's over a thousand feet, but not only do you catch the fish, you're sort of looking for in these barrel fish and tile fish and all this, but all these...
[SPEAKER_02]: all these bullseye torrows and Darwin slimes heads and barrel fish and there's all kinds of interesting stuff down there long-tailed sea bass is a cool fish that I think would make a good print.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, did you really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the yellow and red.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, real yellow and orange and red and have long streamer fins.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's tastes like lobster.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great eat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so good because that you're only going to get him in water deeper than about 600 so it's like really cold really dense water and they're absolutely delicious.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just don't get real big like I fish with a guy out of Dolphin Island name both strange who he's on him and we can get on a spot where we're bringing him up to at a time you'll have one on either into the jig and they're like in the 14 to 16 inch range and those are.
[SPEAKER_02]: or maybe more like the 18, 20, and 20, and 30, those are studs, but yeah, if you ever get a chance to eat one, it's worth a try for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Jen, I feel like I need to, I want to make sure I introduce you to because you're in this together.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys were working on this and kind of have your system down and you're incredibly efficient.
[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't take y'all that long to print this fish and it looked beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually have a photo or a couple of photos.
[SPEAKER_02]: I took that night on the dock, which I'll share when we post the links to this podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you and Nikki were working together at Solshan Yacht Works, and that's how you met and she, uh, you weren't scared to get your hands dirty or how did she wrote you into this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never been scared of getting my hands dirty.
[SPEAKER_03]: What happened is I moved from the Birmingham area.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: 2023 and I had a friend that I've known for 20 plus years that had moved here eight years prior.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: All them and said, hey, I'm moving down.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he sent me Nicky's number, uh, a colder up on the phone.
[SPEAKER_03]: She actually hired me over the phone for the deep hip business.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The word of mouth, her known beer and beer known me.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, um, so that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just got into the boat detailing and then one day she's like,
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, I do these fish prints and I started telling me all about him.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, it's really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's been hooked ever so I feel compelled to tell you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sitting in Birmingham right now as we record this in the stadium.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll so hopefully you didn't leave angry or anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's okay that I'm standing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm half the time down there with y'all and that's my favorite half right.
[SPEAKER_02]: If not for my wife and daughter and the dogs be in here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be down there all the time, but I missed them too much if I don't come back up here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the whole the whole geotaku thing is so interesting like I said, um,
[SPEAKER_02]: It made me go on a little bit of a journey to understand, you know, what it is and how it started and all this kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so just for the benefit of our listeners, you can look this up and you can, you know, this is, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: courtesy of the Google interweb nets, but, you know, this geotaku or fish print is this traditional Japanese method of printing a fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as nearly as we can tell, it dates back to either the 17 or the 1800s, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And really, back then, there were no cameras, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And someone would catch either a new species or some remarkable fish, or the really big size.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that all their
[SPEAKER_02]: I know they are now.
[SPEAKER_02]: They aren't every century I live in, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I was born in the 70s and now it's the 2000s.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I've got at least two centuries of complete evidence that we're all exaggerating all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was really kind of the way that they could memorialize a catch, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Taxidermy wasn't traditional.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a little bit of the Japanese ethic around.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're going to harvest this game, you shouldn't waste it, you should eat it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so they probably would never catch a trophy fish like this
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, use all of it, right, but one of the, but this is a way you could get a really good copy or print of this fish to kind of memorialize it over time for lack of, you know, photos and, you know, fish rulers and scales and everything else.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like like slow pitch jigging, this is a technique that developed and was originated in Japan, but ever since we started doing it here, like our fisheries a little different, the fish were doing it, catching our little different, and so we've kind of evolved it to work in the northern Gulf.
[SPEAKER_02]: I assume the same thing is true with
[SPEAKER_02]: with the geotaku like how did you what did you even start with did you just go to like Michaels or the art store and just get some regular old paint or how did you how did you even know where to start because there wasn't any I mean I think the traditional way that is like you know they they use like mulberry paper and there isn't like a really specific kind of ink you know and then then they started using this stuff they call washi paper or they're used
[SPEAKER_02]: And in talking to you on the doc, you've done a lot of different ways like walk me through that like how what was your trial and error like to get materials and find out what works and then like the one the one I saw you do y'all didn't color it in a couple of colors that actually really looked like a red snapper natural coloration when you were done right so talk to me about this process and the evolution and how you figured it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh gosh, uh, from the garage project and craft paper and literally cut up t-shirts.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, to, uh, there, there were a couple of art stores used to be that did carry the rice paper.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, to source some locally, but they were only in smaller sheets.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was really for the insurer near shore stuff that we could fit in basically under 36 inches.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really hard to find a more very paper or ice paper that's in the block form that's longer than that or you can find them you can find them more readily now on rolls but then you don't get the width.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah right.
[SPEAKER_00]: you're like 18 inches wide, but you could have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been a journey.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's good for a while, but.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been a journey to find what.
[SPEAKER_00]: What canvas works best for the different fish and and a lot of it plays out to how big is the fish how much time that we have to work with the fish.
[SPEAKER_00]: The heavier canvases they they make a great print.
[SPEAKER_00]: If the conditions are right.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: We will look more towards more flexible fabrics so that you can get all of the details.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, yeah, scale, scale, kind of.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't get as many glitches where the fabric maybe doesn't want to contour to the fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, what's the wildest or most unusual fish you've ever done?
[SPEAKER_00]: A lionfish.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely a lionfish.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're around, unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_02]: We catch them on the jig time to time.
[SPEAKER_00]: we partnered up with a couple of non-profits out of Pensacola Coast Watch and Lyon Fish University and worked with them.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are very active in the Caribbean and in the Gulf for a benefit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Managing their medicine as an invasive species, that's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a really, really fun endeavor to get on board with and that whole whole mess of people that do that crazy deep water diving like they're, they're, they're so much fun because and he have to be to be that crazy to go that deep right, right, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not for your average person, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know why I'm fish sounds a little tricky, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because they're tricky to try to bring one on board.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, this is a fish that's really, really delicious, but it can be very dangerous.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it has dorsal spines and has spectral spines, all of which have venom, but unlike puffer fish and some of these other things, if you remove the spines, you remove the poison there, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: But if we cut off all the spines and make it safe to handle, then you're not really getting a print of what the fish looks like.
[SPEAKER_02]: How and if you don't know what these fish look like, they almost have like hands sticking out of their pectoral fins.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're very prominent.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're with toral fins and their spines and their poisonous, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: They can hurt you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So how how did y'all come about putting one of those?
[SPEAKER_02]: Very, very, very, very, very, it was dead dead dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: First we got it out of the freezer after it was in there for two weeks, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never printed one.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that was before she came on board, but it, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: Is this what happened to the last sidekick and assistant painer we need to start asking hard questions We just revealed something holy cow Jen you better be getting hazardous duty pay apparently
[SPEAKER_02]: as if he takes care of me will all right fair enough if you're happy I'm happy just watch out for the spines so were you able to get like the because they're they're almost like it's you hit like it's not like a beta fish but beta fish have as much you know Finn as they have body that's kind of almost what the lionfish is like did it turn out okay
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it turned out fantastic, um, absolutely incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we later on got to print the at that time, state record line fish.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Florida state record line fish.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was caught during one of the line fish tournament held over at Dustin.
[SPEAKER_02]: How big was that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, eight, um, she was like 13 inches or 14 inches at
[SPEAKER_02]: which is really big for a blind fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they get so wide, you know, they're like a different shape to, I mean, most of the ones I've seen have been about, you know, this big, like, I don't know, seven or eight inches, that's like twice that big.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the hammer.
[SPEAKER_00]: you would think almost not worth the trouble of trying to go through the spines, but man, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know that's I think that's one of the reasons why we can get so much, you know, support relatively behind getting rid of the line fish because they're delicious because people want them, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And because you can sell them.
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, what's the largest fish you've ever done?
[SPEAKER_00]: The, you remember the Blue Marlin that broke the record for the second time in the tournament at the Blue Marlin Grand Championships in 2013?
[SPEAKER_02]: I do remember that, it made it like world news.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got to print that fish.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, I still have one full-length print of that fish in my arsenal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh wow, that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: How long was that print?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like 18 foot long.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you use to use canvas or fabric for that?
[SPEAKER_00]: We did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, and a lot of paint.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot of paint for one of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we thankfully, because I knew the first made on board, we got a little bit of time with the fish after the green biologist got to do their thing too.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they let us get some extra fun prints.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we did some like dorsal fin forward print,
[SPEAKER_00]: and the first mate on the boat at the time Chandler, he commissioned one of the Dorsal Finn forward prints and then one of the tail prints and put his TV in the middle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sounds like a good thing to put your TV in between to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'd be distracted.
[SPEAKER_02]: Most TV these days I'd rather look at the prints.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, so we'll talk about this some more, but how do people get in touch with you?
[SPEAKER_02]: You just through your website or they kind of have your reputation on the dock or they call you or they send you an email, they just email nauticalpashinsetgmail.com or all of the above, but typically it's been around the dock.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're pretty well known around the charter docks.
[SPEAKER_00]: and tournament docs.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so somebody has our number and that they can give it to you, but also www.noticalpashins.com, PASCH-E-N-S, or any of our social media.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you do catch that fish of a lifetime and
[SPEAKER_00]: Just keep it on ice until you get in touch with us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Keep it cold.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was going to ask.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So our most people, so it doesn't have to be like a huge massive fish of a lifetime for this to be cool, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you've done flounder.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've done some triple tail.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've done some speckle trout.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've done some King Macro Spanish Macro.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you've done some fish that it's.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't have to, I mean, obviously, that'd be a logical time.
[SPEAKER_02]: You catch like the biggest Kobe or Wahoo or something you've ever caught in your life.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would make sense to do it, but it doesn't even have to just be a trophy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It could be a kid's first fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: It could be first fish of a species, you've been waiting to catch for a long time.
[SPEAKER_02]: It really could be almost anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: It could have just been a great trip and you wanted a memory of that trip and all your buddies that, you know, that were on board and something to hang on the wall.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it is great art.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And kind of circling back around around to how you when you asked how did this come about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of times I was seeing the wives, so my ex and I had an insurer near short charter business here in Orange Beach before the oil spill.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we started doing them for customers on the boats because a lot of times they were inlanders and fresh water lakes rivers.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they get down here and then and it is the biggest fish that they've caught because the monsters compete with you find in freshwater.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so the wives and moms were very much like, oh, great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Another dead thing to head over the wall.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my wife would feel exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've actually, I don't want to be controversial.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never mounted a fish in my life, right, which is not to say I've never killed one.
[SPEAKER_02]: We kill them and eat them all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know that just never appealed to me
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and it's art and then it's also not to bash the replicas and the trophies at all because where it fits it fits very well.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you have a home that can fit a trophy fish like that and a wife that accepts it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then more parity, but this, you know, when you do that trophy, they just take measurements.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when you get a fish print, that is your the fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: The fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: every detail of it, at least on the one side that we print.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, yeah, nothing's, nothing's perfect, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's just, um, and there's a range of stuff you guys can do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is the same with Japan, like for the longest time, it was like a traditionally either black ink or very dark blue ink.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I have looked, and I can't remember exactly what type of ink they were using, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But, um,
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, they started doing it a little bit more, I don't know, almost like gray scale and black and white and then now you've got some of the newer artists in Japan that are doing like what you guys are doing where you can actually.
[SPEAKER_02]: paint the fish in color that's either representative of the natural color of the fish or you even do some that are really cool like I think I saw some why he might he had done where it's like almost like exaggerated colors right and it's like really it's like really cool and kind of I don't know like
[SPEAKER_02]: art deco, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did go out on the limb and this was a it was a personal catch so we weren't you know I wasn't worried about attrition and it the fish was strictly there for me to print and play with.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we've been on display in our local coastal art center for quite some time now.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: that the realism, what I noticed, I guess with other artists stuff that was selling, that people like the Art Deco, so I'm trying to give that a role.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it seemed to go over pretty well.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's kind of the blend between the masculine and the feminine, the fish and then the color and the pops.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, there's a guy and and I think what you're referring to, you're funded the Coastal Arts Center of Orange Beach, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can find out about an orange beach.ail.gov.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a it's a cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't realize you guys were in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I must have seen your work in there before and never even made that connection.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's it celebrates
[SPEAKER_02]: go still in traditional art from this part of the low country, which is really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're every down here on vacation or something, you should check it out because it's one of the many neat things the community has to offer.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, I know a guy who's an artist, David Danforth, and he does kind of like, I don't know how to describe it other than like,
[SPEAKER_02]: uh, they're not like hyper realistic, but fairly realistic impressionistic paintings of fish, but almost like it's street art or graffiti with like bright colors and different color palettes and different color tones and that's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he did really realistic stuff for a long time and then just almost out of like trying to do something different and not be bored tried that and that stuff sold like way better and so now that's like his signature style and that's what he does and it's really
[SPEAKER_02]: I cast and a lot of the shows we go to, so it doesn't surprise me at all, but that art deck of stuff goes over well.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing is sometimes like having had to try to furnish and put art up in a home that's at the beach, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you want to kind of have things that relate to fishing that you like and that are coastal and they're sort of local.
[SPEAKER_02]: But after a while, it's all the same fish prints of paintings are all the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, sunsets or beach scapes, it's all the same, you know, I don't know, gray hair and and turtle pillows, you know what I mean, like I'm like and and sand dollars and sea shell lamps or you know what I mean, like it's it really is that appeals to me, too, is it's each one is such a unique piece of art, you can even do two red snapper.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you do one in black and white or gray scale and then you do the other and maybe the more realistic color of the art deco it's like two totally separate pieces right and they go together.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's consistent and style of the art, but they look different I mean I think that's really cool and and to me I don't know again it's funny that this appeals to me so much when I've never had any desire to mount a fish you know, but like they'd be so cool to have like.
[SPEAKER_02]: be able to go into your house and every single piece of geotaku art is like a fish and a trip and a story and somebody you took fish in and you were with and you're way to remember that day, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah one of our neckhands down on the Annie girl at Zix Charterfleet,
[SPEAKER_00]: Tony, his, I think, I'll have to ask him how many he has now, but he said that he, he wants one of every species on his wall so that he can tell the story when someone comes in, where did you catch that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been his boat.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've watched that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know just the ones that we've done for him between this year and last year, um,
[SPEAKER_00]: He has to have at least 15.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, hey, there's a lot of those captains down there out of zeaks or ACEs.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they catch, they catch a lot of species, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: They know what they're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: They do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I also like, and this is again, I may be losing some people, but most of the people who were in our,
[SPEAKER_02]: I like to refer to my audience of these custom rod builders all over the world as like some of the world's greatest DIYers right like their makers they do things they'd rather make it themselves Then then buy it in a lot of cases and they see the merit and the value of that it's also to me such a versatile piece of art because you can just have the piece of paper and just you can just put it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: playing, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It can almost just be like a simple tile, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: In a small powder room or something, or you can actually put it under glass, build an elaborate frame around it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and it sort of, it stands up, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's a, it's a versatile medium to me, and you can do all different kind of sizes, like your kid catches their first fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not very big.
[SPEAKER_02]: It could be a great little thing you could just put on a coffee table or in a small like I know every house I've ever been and there's all these little nooks and crannies where you're like what am I going to put there I need to put something there I walk I'm walking around my house now go and trigger fish to go there I could put a be like I could put a be liner right there oh man a triple tail would go great right there right
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna figure it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm serious man, I wish you saw like my mom.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been, we've been fishing in Louisiana for regularly for like 15 or 16 years and we got a real fortunate event where there are a bunch of triple tail and south pass and this guy I've fished with down there Captain Patrick Dickinson with Dixie outfitters LC.
[SPEAKER_02]: Got a phone call or we're calling the radio.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, man, are you out with people fishing right now?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, yeah, he's got somewhere regular guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like the triple tail, the huge triple tail or in south pass, like get down here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we got down there and I'm talking about jumbos like and I've not caught many triple tail and these were all like 20 pound plus triple tail and we're catching them on like a pop and cork on a spin in a rod like red fish gear it was crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: But my brother took some home and fed it to my mom and my mom like had barely pushed her seat back from the table and like picked up the phone and texted me was like y'all need to quit messing around with these trout red fish and flounder you need to be triple tail.
[SPEAKER_03]: We just ate triple tail yesterday.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you really?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: So good.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's always what I get when I go to big fish if they've got triple tail on the menu, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting it
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was very good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you miss the season?
[SPEAKER_03]: Tis the season.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why we were able to have it from much.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was actually the fish of the day.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to digest your day from now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like Luna too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: That or Kobe, I always get the Kobe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, seriously.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's another one you don't see all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Luna's and how it's the other one over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all the same restaurant group.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they're dog friendly, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gentes and Cosmos.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cosmos is all I was thinking of.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that they're for baby friendly.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you've done the lionfish is the strangest one you've done.
[SPEAKER_02]: This world record, you know, grander, more than a grander, blue, biggest one you've ever done.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's, what do you have a favorite?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or if you like could, if you only had to print one for the rest of your life, you have one you've favorite?
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have to say either the speckled trout or the mai mai.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, why those two?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got no problems with either one of those fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're interesting choices to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: The mai because they're just so vibrant and...
[SPEAKER_00]: And when you're out there, one of my fun favorite to catch off short when you get into a mess of I, because they're just they're spastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: They jump all over the place.
[SPEAKER_00]: They go absolutely retarded when they get on the line.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it's they can be hard to catch because they're, they're so active in the how they jump and twist the first one's hard to catch too.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you can get one hooked up, just don't reel it in, just leave it on your side of the boat.
[SPEAKER_00]: and throw the rest of your lines out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and speckle trout, they're just so beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you really look at those fish, and to try to capture the iridescent colors on that, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, every way you turn it just depends the way the light hits it is to how it's going to present.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they are just, they're probably my favorite, the most beautiful saltwater fish that we have.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's certainly one of the better things to chase in our area, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, right about now fall fall season getting right right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, um,
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk to me a little bit about the photography too, because you're a photographer also was at it kind of an offshoot of this that totally independent of the geotaku or just always been sort of an artsy creative type or
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh gosh, um, well, it was the, it was the first love of my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was photography.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was my first business.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: We only interviewed people who fishing is the first.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to cut this right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have been disqualified.
[SPEAKER_02]: People ignore everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've just, all right, I'll forgive you.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're allowed to grow people.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, you are, you are, you are totally, but it's the only, it was the only thing that really still held magic to me, my education is in the physical sciences.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a BS in chemistry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and that is the physical sciences.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so when chemistry seeks to explain the world, photography still held magic, like you capture a moment in time and you freeze that for eternity and help help poetic and beautiful that is and and.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just, you know, you forget things as time goes by and you can open up those albums and go back down the lane and fill those feelings and all all the smell the smells remember it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the trigger of memory.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the photography definitely was my first love.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And.
[SPEAKER_00]: And salt water is is now my first love it's evolved.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've gotten to do some offshore tournament photography, which is really incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: You need a great fast lens for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's go say.
[SPEAKER_00]: And and then mostly family beach portraits and weddings kind of steered away from that now that the
[SPEAKER_00]: the boat detailing and the fish printing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They kind of take precedents.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a lot more competitive market now out here in the sand.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's all the photographers everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you can always see those.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's like when the magic hour starts to approach in the evening here, they all come out and the khaki shorts and the white shirts.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then like I know because I've been there.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did that for years and years and years.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my son and I are still like, oh mom, please don't make it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm glad to have some of those pictures.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, you're definitely less, less competition on the geotalki side.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I would assume every bit- There's a little else learning to read.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is there?
[SPEAKER_02]: OK. Well, we're not going to talk about them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Big and go back to Japan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's so awesome, I'm so fascinated by y'all.
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, one of the deals I always make with my guests is I'm not asking you to give away any secrets and don't create your own competition and you don't have to give away any secret sauce.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if somebody was really interested in this, like say there's a kid listening to you, say hey, you know, I'm gonna go catch a fish and I'm gonna try to give you a talk to you print it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, any resources you'd recommend for them
[SPEAKER_02]: Or sort of general advice you give to get them started or to save them some of the pain of the learning curve.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: We actually did some classes for the Coastal Arts Center and part of this was awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: And did a booth at the seafood festival and it was a kids booth.
[SPEAKER_00]: And instead of making the kids suffer, well, the parents suffer through the kids putting their hands on real slime fish.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: We did rubber molds.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got those off of Amazon with cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: and reusable, but and cut up a bunch of little squares, appropriate size for the kids, let them come and paint their own fish, do their own print.
[SPEAKER_00]: We let them hang it up, sign it, and then they got to walk around with their parents and come back and pick it up before they left the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: To try to inspire the next generation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's to get into nature and know that nature is cool and that you can turn it into art.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and we better be worried about it because we're losing to the screens in the inside stuff right now all day long and organize sports to some level and I Preach this every time it comes up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like y'all don't understand how important license sales are and how important have in young people that are outside That will one day vote to protect our access and our water rights and have a say in the way our resources are managed.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so critical like we all need to be terrified of
[SPEAKER_02]: The the change in numbers and that stuff, you know, it's it's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's scary to me, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I want I was hit in my rankings to have resources.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have to learn to be out to be okay being outside all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know, I was gonna say we talked about this a little bit when we were talking on the dog and I think it's so funny You guys are not lying because you could be sitting side doing this right now and you're sitting outside like Not everybody will be watching the video, but they're sitting out on their porch like lower-looking the waters like a nice Sunset coming down and in a long day like that's so awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it outside baby life is best lived outside It is amen and I think this may be the first time I've ever had a guest outside So this is cool
[SPEAKER_02]: Hello.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're the first girl, but to circle back on it, if someone at home, you know, the grand kid catches that fish and they want to play with it as a little extend the fun and the garage.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: A little dawn dish soap to wash the slime off because you don't want the slime.
[SPEAKER_02]: You do actually soap it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, all right, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually, we're wiping it off at the fish cleaning table, like you saw it ziques trying to get the table wet again.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can just try to take paper towels and wipe slime off, but, you know, like the light fish spot, they give it a little fish spot, what this light is like.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then depending on what kind of fish you caught, maybe pin out the fins.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, because you know, once they're dead, the fins like to collapse it on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hadn't even thought about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, a little bit of styrofoam and straight pins were great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then apply your ink and take your cut piece of either rice paper or cloth and press it down on top of it and rub your hands over every contour so that you know every piece has gotten ink on the paper has transferred and then and then lifted up for the big reveal.
[SPEAKER_02]: that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess it's sky's a limit on what kind of paints and stuff you can use right I mean I guess it gives you different working times and different I guess you got to worry about it fading over time and that kind of thing like well yes I know you can a lot of the non-toxic
[SPEAKER_00]: And so where those inks probably are not high archival inks spray a high archival enamel over the top of the print protected or would it preserve or could an archival quality glass.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: The another thing you guys do that's so cool is you have some really neat note cards and like thank you know it's a course on it's card and stuff that have you know this so obviously some of these fish are much bigger.
[SPEAKER_02]: How are you miniaturizing or you like taking a picture of your own art and then just using that as to create the artwork and print the cards?
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever seen the movie Honey?
[SPEAKER_00]: I sure in the kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I'm I feel like this is a trick.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've just suffered through parts of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a huge fan, but yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, just kidding.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got a secret lab where Rick Moranis is back there, post strange Brue Rick Moranis is back there, take off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, how can you shrink it?
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't forget what she said.
[SPEAKER_03]: She had a degree in, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I bet against her.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen how clean you'll get a boat.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got all kinds of secrets somewhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not, I bet against you.
[SPEAKER_00]: better than taking a picture of our art because you can only get the resolutions so high with a photographic image.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll have them scanned in a really high resolution scan, but even that has its limitations.
[SPEAKER_00]: Scanners typically are no wider than 48 inches, so like that big
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I wouldn't think, I don't care if it's too big.
[SPEAKER_02]: There can't be that many, but there's some really good looking cards that you guys have out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got triple tail.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I know your favorite speckle trout.
[SPEAKER_02]: Snapper, pompano, sheep's head, king macro, all kinds of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it really is a different.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I struggle all the time because I'm constantly needing to write.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you notes and write cards that people and I saw that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, these would be perfect.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are because it's like it's you're looking for something out your way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, hey, look, I'll take care of it I'm gonna you're gonna get a holiday you're gonna get a holiday gift order out of me and my marketing Jack Bear and I promise and you guys also do a pair of which is kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why that's surprised me when I first went on your website which was about you know
[SPEAKER_02]: and 10 minutes after I got home after running a new y'all on the dock at the beach you do you do like performance long and short sleeve shirts you do yes all kinds of stuff you do pillows you do like so it just kind of stickers and all that stuff even some drinkware and phone computer accessories like did it just was that just sort of a spin-off after you're doing it a while like hey what else could we put this on
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yes and no, we had another artist kind of stick their hand in my cookie jar, so to speak.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And since this is not a process that can be patented or anything like that, because it's been, you know, it's art and it's all written right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We kind of redirected our energies into that arena of the apparel, but also at the time,
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a real big gap in the apparel market for women's clothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And really, I was feeling, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh yeah, I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And feeling like a potato sack and everything being neutral colors.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so my sister and I did a deep dive.
[SPEAKER_00]: She has the background in history in screen printing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's fortunate.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I got lucky.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we decided to try to take it in the direction of making some snazzy women's clothing that's also SPF.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that we didn't have to look like a potato sack out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the rest of us dudes do.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we started with the most colorful fish here in the Northern Gulf of Mexico.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it got a great response and it's just kind of grown from there.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys also did a collaboration with Eight Up Nation, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, we did, yes, my sister did some graphic design for them, and then also Shadow Magic Outdoors out of, uh, uh, suburb, uh, Birmingham, um, not Coleman, but he was a huge, he was a huge town.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was a huge town.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a huge town.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's just it's uh, it's uh, it was kind of an epiphany for me to find this website because I'm always looking for phishing related stuff, uh, either for me or for somebody else, you know, and little thank you gifts and and all this kind of stuff and uh, I can guarantee you there's a whole bunch of people.
[SPEAKER_02]: How much for you and my family going to be getting some stuff from you guys, which is great, right, because it's it can be hard to
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and some of these people are hard to shop for because like you can't really buy I'm gear because they have a real opinion about what they want and if they want it, they've already got it right And so you don't buy them something they don't have because there's a reason they didn't buy that and they don't have it This kind of this kind of solves that problem, you know
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been really fun for me, too, as someone who hasn't, who's only fished in the orange beach kind of, from orange beach to Fort Morgan kind of area for the last 20 years and now kind of living down there, like it's a really vibrant community of artists down there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of cool to run into you guys, but there's also, it's kind of open my eyes to everything that's at the dark center and all the other people doing all kinds of stuff down there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It makes me proud of our
[SPEAKER_02]: We are some of some of you are.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, still.
[SPEAKER_00]: Talk about DJ.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, didn't have to be one or the other, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to give her hell.
[SPEAKER_00]: She knows better.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so if you want to learn more, if you want to see some of this stuff like I.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could give you 10,000 words, but just go take a look, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can go to nauticalpashins.com, NAU, TICAL, passions like PAS, C-H-E-N-S.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's all kinds of stuff there.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's holiday collections.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a peril and decor, there's stickers, there's drinkware, there's all kinds of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's different, and it's unique.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess where I'm building up to with this is,
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it possible that let's say I catch a fish and I have you printed that that could then also have you make I don't know cards out of it or make a shirt out of it or it have y'all done.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean you obviously have really good representative examples of all the species already in the can and ready to go with that would be I mean.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not that many people that can say they've got hey you like my geotalko t shirt because I caught this fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: And cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I need to send one of my dad and my brother and my son like a next time we go on a trip and I catch the biggest fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what I'm going to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to get them all prints of that fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to make notations of exactly how much bigger mine was than theirs.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be awesome and it's going to last forever forever if I could get excited about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, how else should people get in touch with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: So nautical passions.
[SPEAKER_02]: Same spelling again at gmail.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: How else?
[SPEAKER_00]: Facebook Messenger.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: The handle is still the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a not a passions.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Patients.
[SPEAKER_00]: We also just recently started to tick talk this summer since we were doing so.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Princess Z.
[SPEAKER_00]: We wanted to see what it would kind of be like out there in the live community.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we try to do lies every time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's so cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not following you guys yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me pull it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: How do I tell me what you're going to have to tell me what your account is saying on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe I'm not following you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, what's your account?
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It should be just not as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not a gopashions.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not a gopashions.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: At nautical passions.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to be consistent with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, you did a good job.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's harder than you think.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you are, not a gopashions.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a swordfish.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just thinking about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just caught my first sword.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hand cranked out of 1,400 feet two weeks ago in Venice.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was thinking,
[SPEAKER_00]: we have lots of video we have lots of photo and everything and i was thinking um and that would have been a cool fish to get printed you know uh they are there was a series of these guys uh all got one they were uh cash they were from all across the country so they ended up commissioning three of them and had us
[SPEAKER_00]: finish them out scroll style.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of what you're seeing there on the on my shed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, like the long yeah, yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we sandwiched them sandwich the top in between two boards with a face board and then to bottom so that it just kind of hangs there and we covered it in the the UV gloss.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not stiff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you needed to roll it up and say,
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a 18 foot piece of something behind the glass or stretch your boat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, yeah, yeah, that gets tricky in a hurry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what should I have asked you that I have and anything else you want to share with the crew?
[SPEAKER_00]: I just may be some final thoughts for the fellow anglers out there that are the fishing that we do, the art we do, the legacies that they hold, they're all about triumph of loss of the beauty that we experience while we're out here in nature and enjoying.
[SPEAKER_00]: these waters and waterways and our mission is to help these stories stick around one at a time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you do an awesome job of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's such a cool medium and I am so glad we most of the time when we head out in the boat.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like 50, 50.
[SPEAKER_02]: The mood we're in where we went last night and how we're dressed, whether we're going to Ziggs or Avenue Pub.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm just so glad.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we chose Zeke's at night or that my daughter chose Zeke's at night or my wife.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure I didn't choose but I'm so glad we wound up with Zeke's at night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing's anything wrong with Zeke's.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just not in control.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're glad to welcome there too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, look, that's all I mean to suggest.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I would have.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who knows how long y'all could have been there and yeah, I never ran into you.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is so cool and I will definitely be calling you with some fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: So do you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: Gary Goodwin and Jamie G Charters there at Ziggs and Amanda his wife that runs our way and do you know this guy's okay yeah I fish with him a bunch so one of us may be calling we're going to go catch an interesting group or some kind of deep drop fish and guys still injured we've been meaning to get out and do some deep drop and so we may have to bring you something really interesting you haven't printed before I'd love to help you add your add your species list I get excited about that
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so have campaigns will travel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Seriously, we all do it at ZX, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's ZX is easy, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, thank y'all so much for joining me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been such a pleasure.
[SPEAKER_02]: And thanks everybody for tuning in and listening.
[SPEAKER_02]: And please like, subscribe, and download wherever you get your podcast content.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you the next time on Mastery and Rod Building.
[SPEAKER_02]: Till then, thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that day that I met you on the dock, you had, like I said, you had a hammer, snapper, a big snapper.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was one that someone had called on any girl with top bearded clothes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, good old Tony man, he has been bringing us so many customers that have been beyond excited.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's been talking the fish prints up, of course, he had some trouble in his house.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was the fellow I mentioned earlier that has him covering his whole apartment.
[SPEAKER_00]: but yes, he is obsessed.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is as obsessed with fish prints as we are.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, thanks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks, Captain Tony and Andy girl.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if you want to go with Tony and have the fast track to Jen and Nicky, you can just look up Andy girl or call Captain Tony, go through Facebook or call Zeke's Marina.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's got us on speed now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I bet.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that means he's bringing the ones worth
[SPEAKER_00]: And that that sort of fish that you saw, um, it was one, I'm believe it was one that came in on their boat.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was, that was, that was an annual catch.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we riff off that thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: a bunch, like, a bunch, but they're not as common for us as they are in parts of, we just, you have to go so long to get to deep water for us, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not the most common fish to hit the dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would get so excited about something like that if I was you guys, because you don't see that every day.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm even, even.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even if we did, I think I would still get excited about it because somebody had the catch of their lifetime and to say they were coming up the dock, just glowing, I mean glowing from smiling from ear to ear, you know, and so proud of themselves and everybody else being proud of them, because it's really a group effort.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to have your home team cheering you on to really land those big things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I'll tell you a swordfish too, I've only personally been on the rod to catch one, and this was just within the last few weeks, and it got hand cranked from 1,400 feet, and it was only about a hundred pound fish, and it would take a hundred pound, it'd take a 200 pound yellow thin, if you tied them tail to tail, and it would drag it all over the ocean, like I was shocked how powerful that fish is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're in any of them that come easy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care how big they are, so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man, you put a sort of fish in the box like you earned it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guarantee you.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what a great way to memorialize it, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you all have fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess normally I would say tight lines.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's like clean lines and smooth prints or I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, y'all have fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can't wait to look at TikTok and see which come up with.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You appreciate you.