[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the lower house podcast where we don't have an outline because we are recording a lot of things right now And this is going to be a very hot take kind of situation here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm John
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Alicia, and we are here today to talk about the telemaska, telemaska, Noza, the secret order, the new Anne Rice Immortals on AMC, show tie-in with interview of the Vampire and May Fair Witches, and where do you think this sits between the two of them, John?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think it's significantly better than the first season of May Fair Witches.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I thought I should have been between the two of them, that was a leading of me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's certainly not better than interview with the vampire.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just off the table.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I will say, I kind of enjoyed Mayfair, which is about the same, maybe even a little bit more than I did.
[SPEAKER_01]: This show, yeah, season two.
[SPEAKER_01]: Season two, I thought season two was a big improvement for Mayfair, which is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this show, I think it's really struggled to find its foot at first.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it got to a good place by the end of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There were some interesting plot lines, there was some interesting mysteries and reveals, but it definitely used the vampires as a crutch for civil.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they got us in the first episode with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they used the vampires as a crutch and then I didn't feel like it was totally satisfying by the end of the season, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: That felt like almost like a mid-season reveal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I would have preferred them going further.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I could go ahead.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, as I say, I guess are we doing spoiler free at first for people who are Yeah, we can give vibes.
[SPEAKER_01]: We give vibes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is this let me ask you is it worth it to watch this if you like
[SPEAKER_01]: either interview with the vampire or me fair witches, maybe a different answer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's a two different answers.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think it's kind of as I expected going in, especially after I saw the trailer that I think I do also agree that I thought May Fair Witches season two is a lot better than season one.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I've just say, you and I did talk about me fair witches season two.
[SPEAKER_03]: We did that one as a what you watch and just for subscribers.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this one's going public.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, this will be public.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, so just as we did talk about my fair which is season two, um, and we're kind of giving our hot takes on that here at the same time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, for this one, it's, it's a different animal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, you know, I've talked about this a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that in, you know, if you're going to build an entire cinematic or television universe, I like when there's room for different styles within that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is much more like the, it's more of a procedural feel and actually I'm just saying toward the beginning of the season, we, you know, we had our chat going on the discord.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I said, why are people saying that this feels like a BBC procedural?
[SPEAKER_03]: And as soon as I heard that, I was like, yeah, I can't unsee it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's, it is also,
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, this one felt like there were different creatives working in different units and I have not I've looked this up to confirm really, um, but it felt like there are different creatives working in different units and a lot of it was filmed in Manchester and I feel like it was genuinely
[SPEAKER_03]: and it did feel like a television procedural, but is that a bad thing?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's just not like, if you are a huge interview of the vampire fan and you're looking for that, where you should know from May Fair, which is already that's not what you're going to get.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that this, I had fun with this, and I have to say, we just,
[SPEAKER_03]: Finally, got on Netflix in the Netherlands for the first time all three of these shows at the same time dropped like last week or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I put reminders to rewatch, I added to my watch list to rewatch interview the Vampire of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, season three.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I also did tell a mask, but I did not add May Fair Witches to my rewatch list.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I, I will say, I don't think you need to, it's definitely not mandatory reading, you know, to watch Talabaska or even May Fair Witches.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think that at this stage of the interview with the vampire arc.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're only enjoying interview with the vampire, you do not need to go watch either of these shows.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this one does tie in more, I think, directly, then, although I have to say it's a bridge with May Fair, which is too, because it does also talk about things established in May Fair, which is in terms of the telemapska itself.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think it ties more into interview with the vampire, but why is particularly what we get at the very end of the season, which, again, no spoilers, but then May Fair, which is does, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I'd use the word directly.
[SPEAKER_01]: It definitely ties in, but I feel like it's more of a nod and more of a...
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's what's happening in that part of the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in that part of the supernatural underworld, I mean, just I just don't know if let's stop in the way I'm really going to get into it with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, but I think, I mean, we obviously we did get in the trailer.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can see there is a major character crossover in the first episode, but I'm not talking about that as much as I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: where the season ends, which seems to be pointing in the same direction, lower-wise, as where the second interview with the vampire season ends.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, all right, interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, shall we take up the spoiler curtain and you tell us how you really feel?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, okay, spoilers, spoilers, spoilers.
[SPEAKER_03]: What I'm talking about at the end is that we have Jasper, who's our main vampire character in this show, and at the end he feels like he's being pulled into something that's called like the great conversion in the books, and that also seemed to be what was happening at the end of,
[SPEAKER_03]: Louise hearing all of the vampire voices in his head talking about this and this sort of this idea like we have to that somehow, you know, we have to make turn everyone into vampires basically and then turn.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the channel from plan on that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you need to channel channel.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're in channel
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I will say there were interesting things that Jasper did, like the almost want to call them demodogs for, because we're doing that at the same time, but like these, these half-breed vampires that he's making that, the reference animalistic, rather than as you said, that's what he called them, yeah, I can't remember, but it was interesting, they were like zombies basically, which was, yeah, we saw those turn up in season two of interview with the vampire in the Eastern European plot line.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, is that the same thing?
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I didn't realize that that was the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I was like, oh, that's new.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we saw them, like, this is totally new to have Jasper controlling them with the clicker and stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, how does that work?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Never mind.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did we get explained exactly like how their making was different?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, it's, they, I think, I mean, this is mostly based on book lore, but I think the deal is that they are actually dead, like they're not living vampires, but they're killed vampires.
[SPEAKER_03]: Although in, in for the vampires, he's in too, is kind of like, she, I forget the character's name, the vampire character that, um, that, that Claudia meets, and yeah, my Italian vampire, you be?
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought she was Italian.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I mean, they were definitely not in Italy.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I thought she was Italian.
[SPEAKER_01]: In my head, she was Italian.
[SPEAKER_03]: But she thought that it was like she just couldn't make proper vampires or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is a bit hazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that is also the thing between these three shows is I feel like they don't have a central...
[SPEAKER_03]: lower person overlooking them all and I know Roland Jones, the showrunner of interview of the vampire.
[SPEAKER_03]: He did consult on this show, you can tell where he consulted like the first episode.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think he has time probably to, you know, he's doing the vampire let's start the season three of interview of the vampire.
[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't have time to oversee all of this, but they do need that from someone of his
[SPEAKER_03]: taste caliber and that's the key problem here is that no one else that they hired to run shows seems to have the same caliber of taste is rolling Jones and that's why we're all like oh it's not it's not as good as that you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just, there's such an energy to interview with the vampire and an ambience.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is not present in either of the other shows.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know how you fix that without just changing the show runner.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And fundamentally changing the show, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, you almost have to start from scratch with, like, cast, like, and writing and everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's not mandatory that you watch this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure that anything that's important for interview with the vampire will be incorporated in the interview with the vampire.
[SPEAKER_03]: That being said, it's only six episodes and I found it a fun watch.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of my enlist had a lot of points like for a spy show, they really do spell it out for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's like not even a three-step reveal just like twist.
[SPEAKER_03]: I liked the whole twist around Doris at the end of the whole series of twists in the final episode that got me interested, I thought it set up some interesting things, but okay, should we talk about, we didn't even talk about the main character yet, what do you think about Guy and its whole leg?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he unfortunately suffers from Ted Mosby syndrome, which is his first character in his own show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just so boring and like I think I think the weakest part of this show is his him and not even not even the acting I thought the acting was fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the writing was all over the place with him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just didn't understand what his motivations were at any point
[SPEAKER_01]: not in like a fun mystery way, but like, I didn't know what he was doing with Jasper.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know where his head was at with half of the stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: He like forgot about his mom for half the season, and then he was like, oh yeah, that's my main priority all of a sudden again.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just, I thought he was the weakest point of the season.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I like the actor, like you said, it's not the actor, it's the writing more than the actor, but the actor is kind of like a golden retriever, sort of, I mean, not the actor, but the character itself, it's kind of like a golden retriever sort of thing, where you're not sure, like he is obviously intelligent, but probably not very
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm unusual character type for a spy, but of course he has his special mind-reading skill that would make him interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of his mother though, I thought of you in the last moment when Doris said right before it cut to black on the season.
[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, I think I know what your mother is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that the background of Cliff Hanger?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought it was fine, honestly, because it's a new mystery, but again, I would have rather than wrap it up in this season, right, like get to the mother of this season.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think that you needed to go to season two for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: One other thing with guy that really threw me off was, you know, he's an Australian actor and he's doing a US accent, and I'm sure he's doing a better US accent than I could do in Australian accent.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just want to be clear about that, but I'm not an actor, so I'm going to judge him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was supposed to have grown up in Detroit, and yes, he went to the law school in New York, but he sounded like he was trying to do a New York accent most of the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: But maybe that's what someone who goes to law school in New York does.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe maybe like a neutral accent, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they don't sound like a bit trader necessarily.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he was trying to be like Brooklyn, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he was really trying to lean into the New Yorker, but got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe I'm extra sensitive to it as a New Yorker.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I I was a little thrown off by that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like somebody from Detroit does not sound like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Although, I do have to say that they handled the integration of Amsterdam, my city better than Mayfare Witches in terms of both when they showed Amsterdam.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was actually Amsterdam.
[SPEAKER_03]: They had some drone shots in there where they made it look like I know exactly what building they said was a telemoscots.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a hotel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, so that was actually Amsterdam when they showed that, like if you see that night shot with a telemasket building is burning on the bottom right or to those, sorry, left side of the screen, you see this long low building with a curved roof that's Amsterdam central station.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, I'm glad that that you said that because I remember I messaged you when they came up And I was like, so was that real Dutch or Amsterdam or telemask a Dutch?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, maybe fair.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my fair which is I wasn't even positive There was like I had to read the subtitles to understand them and then once I saw someone else like they're speaking Dutch I'm like were they and then I went back and I'll admit I was watching my fair, which is on double speed
[SPEAKER_03]: So I did that in the normal speed and I'm like, okay, I can pick it out.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this time, I didn't even have to look at the subtitles.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was just actual Dutch.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Always good to get the language right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, what did you think of the intrigue around all of, we haven't talked about all of who, the actress, Maisie Richardson sellers is one of those people.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just like recognize her face from a bunch of things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know her?
[SPEAKER_01]: I do not.
[SPEAKER_01]: All of who's all of?
[SPEAKER_03]: She was the one who turned out to be kind of a double agent at the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just this show, first of all, it's been like two weeks since I finished it because we just couldn't get this recording together.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was
[SPEAKER_01]: It was one of the characters, like, cared about the least.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, maybe they just, they didn't do a good job of building her up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, honestly, she should have been, like, more up guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: But a little bit to to make us suspect her a little bit more or trust her a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do go either way, but they kind of didn't either.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she just, the, the, she was just, like, almost seducing guy and then a dick to him for a minute.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she disappeared for like three episodes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's yeah, they're kind of setting her up as like the major mystery going into the next season.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's definitely got some kind of persuasive superpowers.
[SPEAKER_03]: We saw her, we saw her, you know, her, would you call it like her bio or whatever there was in the computer?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: With a million IDs.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, with the million IDs, but also they suggested that she was a special type of human that had powers.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love how the said ethnicity, American, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, though, I feel like a lot of other countries have trouble understanding American ethnicity ideas, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: American subdivide themselves more than other people, subdivide Americans.
[SPEAKER_01]: right right so we know who to be prejudiced against yes that's right you know you have to have your rigid social structures no um but yeah no like will you know the fact that we have on our like college admission forms like check your race and things like that like it's it's interesting right like I feel like I've heard that a lot of other countries don't understand when we say like I'm an Italian American like no you're one of those things you're just an American now right like you grew up in America you've never been Italy
[SPEAKER_01]: you're just an American and they're they don't understand that like a lot of things use the heritage as part of their identity but they call it tomato sauce gravy it's important you know it's funny i i was raised by an Italian American and we never did that no never i've never heard that use that way until until later when i met other Italian American families yeah
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, yeah, I definitely, I mean, I grew up in, um, outside Philly, uh, yeah, in the Philly area.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's, it's really heavy, uh, Italian population.
[SPEAKER_03]: We grew up with a lot of Italian food.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think I only really started to hear that when I started to interact with more New York Italians, Italian American.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even hear that from my, from my grandmother who was very, very, very Sicilian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's the Cecilia's versus the main line of times.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe there is it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I heard that some of it, like, was Neapolitan.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I was talking to someone I know here from Naples.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was, and I was saying, like, oh, yeah, and my ex used to pronounce it past a visual instead of past a fragility.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, oh, that's very Neapolitan.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we said pasta for zool too and that we were, you know, and just why are we doing this right now?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we're talking about the guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we got a guy on a toli, you know, he's from New York and he's got a the E. He's a zax in here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, so what do we think about, okay, Elizabeth, so by the way, me, mezzy Richardson sellers, I looked it up and the thing I most know her from is the originals, the spin-off of the vampire diaries.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, um,
[SPEAKER_03]: But what about the other character, the other actor who I knew going into this was Elizabeth McGovern, who is, she plays Chora on, on, on, Downton Abbey.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to see I thought you were going to see the Legend of Korra, but anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: See, oh, R. A. Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: On Downton Abbey.
[SPEAKER_03]: And what was funny, speaking of accents, what was funny about her is she is like the actress herself, the real woman is American married to a British director, actually.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's directed a lot of Downton Abbey.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so she and she played such a character also on on Downton Abbey, where she was an American who
[SPEAKER_03]: And so her natural speaking is a bit affected in the British way as makes sense when you're married to a Britain living Britain for a long time.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then for this show, especially in the first episode, and then they luckily kind of dropped it, it was like they were forcing her to go full British and her accent.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, why do we have to do this?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know awkward for me at times, but I really, I like her as an actress.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, the character was another one, I wasn't completely sure they knew what to do with.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which did you think about Helen, the leader of Phelomask as New York Motherhouse?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would agree and, and yeah, the accent was a little over, like I thought they were trying to make her Dutch for a minute, and then it was, it was like, it was kind of all over the place, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't know what to do with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't enjoy it when the guy goes, that's not even your real name, is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: You go, of course it's not.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he was going to say, you fucking bozo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: See, she really did, like, not treat him well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, I really don't understand.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is another reason that I don't understand guys motivations, is all of a sudden he decided to trust her.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there really was no like a vent that made him trust her.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand why he did suddenly.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I guess lack of other options, perhaps, or like I suppose because by the end, she was also, she's kind of out of favor at the telemaska for her own actions.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that kind of puts them more in the same boat.
[SPEAKER_03]: or also maybe just, yeah, we've referred to the twist at the end, but just the fact that finding out that Doris is her frozen and age vampire twin sister.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's been searching for I did the whole train shenanigans in the last episode was kind of like, I don't know, not working for me, but that moment where the two sisters exchange looks as she's helping the them get away
[SPEAKER_03]: that really did work for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there were emotional beats that work.
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, I just, because if they just said, okay, if Guy had said, this was our only option, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, you know, this is, this is our last resort.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have anywhere else to go Doris.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Guy didn't say that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, he goes, we have to, we have to just go with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes, I don't trust the telemaska and Doris says, well, you trust her, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he kind of like silently agrees, but again, you didn't do the work for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't do the emotional work as writers to get me to that point where I understand why he trusts her.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe after he finds out what happened to her sister.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't even think that happened to that point.
[SPEAKER_01]: No trusting, trusting Helen.
[SPEAKER_03]: I trusting Helen, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: I suppose.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think the whole thing, for me, that the, the, the, the sobbing is there comes back to the thing about the storyline with his mother.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, and I think that that's also part of the problem is they tried to artificially extend the mystery around Helen in particular, where she's like, you know, not telling you things, not telling you things like, why?
[SPEAKER_03]: What are we doing here, just telling him things?
[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't, it wasn't even like a clearance thing because I'm
[SPEAKER_01]: She's off, she her missions off the books.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's not following protocol already.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like well, I got you approved for level three clearance.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's a real thing in organizations like this, but it is just like at arbitrary times she's like
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to keep this from you to protect you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, from fucking what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, at some point I just wanted to scream that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, he's like, in the line of fire, give him all the information.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're sending him into a vampire den, but you can't tell him about your sister.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you fucking kidding me?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, now I'm, now I'm angry about the show that I wasn't watching it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I did think it was interesting again the twist at the end where just finding out that these two our sisters means that Guy has a sort of mother son relationship with Helen and then there's definitely like they're teasing a romance between him and Doris.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's really interesting to have one sister is like a mother figure and the other is like, oh, oh, oh
[SPEAKER_01]: But did you think that George was going to be his mom for a minute?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I did.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we were talking about it in the discord chat.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it was I, yes, I was like, well, it doesn't necessarily mean that she's not.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then I think George would have reacted differently when she said I have an idea about your mother.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: But before that, I was convinced that that was his mother.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought she was going to be like, call me mommy and he'd be like, yes, ma'am.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she'd be like, no, not like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's we do watch Game of Thrones.
[SPEAKER_03]: So at least they don't usually do parent children stuff that's true and that's good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What did you think about jumping back to the first episode?
[SPEAKER_03]: That was our two big guest stars of the season.
[SPEAKER_03]: We had Eric Burgos in as Daniel Malone, one of the main characters in interview with Vampire, and then we had a new guest star, Jason's, I can say, name, uh-huh, as Burton the Vampire.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's such a great actor, and he was so sassy, of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really do it that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Eric, but goes again, of course, always a pleasure.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was great in interview with the vampire.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're I don't know if you saw any of the promos where he was promoting his book and the character.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he used reading Twitter questions and he's like, no fuck off to everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, that's so in character.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, especially him as a vampire now where he can be even sassy or because he had literally has the power now.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's a longer sick.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I saw also it was people online reacting well to Jason Schwartzman's appearance and they called it like they called this vampire character his final form.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so true.
[SPEAKER_01]: I still have such an earworm from season one episode one of interview with the
[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of, he's trying to negatively talk about his first interview, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And he goes, you know, I was in Pechois, and you have every after every insult, Louie goes, yes, yes, yes, it's one of your core to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, I mean, and that was clearly, that was where, I mean, this is obviously why Roland Jones had consulting.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, well, this is funny, just comparing to me for which is they're like, can we use one of your vampire characters or like, here's a character who has one line and one episode of a bunch of people are going to forget about him and then tell the mask that they're like, okay, you can have one of our big ones, but we're bringing on our
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't fuck up Daniel.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you fuck Daniel, you've ruined the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm really glad that they did that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I only wish the Roland Jones had more time to
[SPEAKER_03]: or they gave him more power to just oversee more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just have him run the show, but he can't, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got our run interview with the vampire, so I get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd rather than, I'd rather not split his focus, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd rather be fully on interview with the vampire, or with the vampire listot, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can we let him, can we let him choose the other show runners?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good way to do it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: A feudal state, if you will.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, just, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I enjoyed this, like I said, six episodes, I definitely, like, if you're into this world, it's a fun watch, do it, why not?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a bit messier and has a more,
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't want to say amateur feeling.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's really going too far.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think it's going on anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't have the same detailed taste.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not politics, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's there you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's a lot more like like you said.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like a procedural.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the problem is a procedural is meant to be like enjoyed for 20 weeks at a time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you are that's like
[SPEAKER_01]: the production of a procedural is much more like a day job for regular people, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like intense thing like an interview with the vampire.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, hey, let's show up from 9 to 5 every day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's, uh, you know, let's, let's get out in episode a week and let's have a nice fun adventure of the week and get going.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about some people are afraid that because these other shows like May Fair Witches and Talemaskar are not of the same quality that it will hurt the longevity chances of interview with the vampire.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about that worry?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think May Fair Witches you need at least another season to wrap it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like don't even extend it past that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a mercy kill of a seed of the show But I think you need at least some of the season about May fair, which is I think you could wrap up telemask in a movie like a TV movie And be done with it, right like the story of Guy and his mom and then you're done and you're done Yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm just going to say like interview the vampire obviously has so much more material with the books and it's got, you know, just much more love than it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would, I would be fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I would not be heartbroken if these two other shows got canceled as long as interview of the vampire says.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I would like to have the stories at least wrapped up, even if there could be a combo interview, or sorry, Talamasko, which is or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I do, assuming I think they've already announced season three of May Fair Witches, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe so.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also didn't you tell me that it does better than interview the vampire because of Alexander D'Aario?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, at least the first season did, which is- This is wild to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's also because some people are like, oh, I don't want to want you to view the vampire because there's like, homosexuality, which, say, yeah, but when it comes to...
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're just, I'm sorry, I have to interrupt because I think I think that these men who are homophobic are really just afraid for their feelings for a listot.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't want to feel like, because I just add a listot to my sexuality.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think they want to feel like they have to do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think that's, that's often the case.
[SPEAKER_01]: They come out of insecurity.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, just let yourself feel the feelings you're going to feel about Sam Reed as a thought.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there is, I felt someone posted, I think yesterday on Blue Sky, there was a prompt, like someone who takes both extra testosterone and extra estrogen and then they showed a picture of Sam Reed as a list of.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I'm not saying much.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying that I'd let him drop me from the sky.
[SPEAKER_03]: But okay, but what I was trying to say before is that May fair, which is season three, it's coming.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to watch it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell a mask.
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually, and more, I like I want a season two of tell a mask and I will be more excited to watch it than season three of May fair, which is even then I will watch them both.
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll be more excited for Talon Aska?
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was curious about where they left things, and it also, it'd be also because what I was saying about it tying more into the broader plot of interview with the vampire?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: But here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so I know this is a world meant for crossovers, but can we please have all crossovers happen on interview with the vampire?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing, most of the issues with these two shows are ready because she was, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there is one character, one actor, that I think does is an actual detriment every time she's on screen.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is Alexander DeDario.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she is unfortunately the main character of the May Fair Witches universe.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't want her to cross over to interview with the vampire, because I don't know, maybe maybe better directions she'll be better.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know, but I've never seen her in a role
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I guess the, I mean, of course, I'm trying to think I knew her before she was on white lotus, but now I can't remember what she was on before that she was in true detective season one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I didn't she was always something in Philadelphia, I haven't seen true detective season one, but like everything I've seen her and it's just been like one note and that's, you know, it's important.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, that's fair.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I was more into these characters, especially by the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think that they me under too much.
[SPEAKER_03]: And oh, there is one character that who I quite liked by the end of the season.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and I'm going to shout out the YouTube channel, the naughty librarian.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um,
[SPEAKER_03]: She does great recaps of all the books, so if it's like for me it's been a while since I've read the books I didn't even read like any books that were released after 2000 or whatever and she also does recaps weekly recaps of these episodes and
[SPEAKER_03]: is she kept calling the agent agent bulk cut, which I now see her name is Ridge in the show apparently.
[SPEAKER_03]: But in my head I just call her agent bulk cut and she I kept saying during the season will will buyers.
[SPEAKER_01]: No sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I kept saying they're in the season that she should be running the telemask out.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I was heartened at the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was another tease that was set up that made me more excited for season two to see her and Helen meet and Helen be like, Hmm, you have interesting skills.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's the only one who was like really investigating things.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's so common in jobs, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: The people who are
[SPEAKER_01]: especially like bureaucracies, the people who are actually moving things are the ones who get punished for being like trouble makers, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That anyone?
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to ask you though.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need a lure check on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Doris obviously was made into a weaker vampire so that she couldn't rebel, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Could she drink?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mustot's blood and become more powerful because he's from the elder line.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean at one point let's
[SPEAKER_03]: And levels up.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, they definitely have a new UC also in this show.
[SPEAKER_03]: They showed there was the Elder Vampire Which Jasper took some of his blood and like drank it to heal himself, but that is why they're after the Elder Vampire blood But then I'm like, okay, so the guy asked for a mercy kill the the Elder Vampire who is being trapped by the other Vampires to drain him for his blood First of all, couldn't they just?
[SPEAKER_03]: stop taking blood for him and let him heal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Second of all, if you are going to kill him, why release that blood everywhere?
[SPEAKER_03]: Why not just kill him and take the blood and keep it?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a great question.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a similar thought when that happened and you're reminding me of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, I don't know, for the mercy kill part, I think, uh, isn't it said at some point that like some of the older vampires just have trouble with their immortality and start to go crazy?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, why there aren't a ton of older vampires?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess you could say that after the torture and the longevity, he's done, but yeah, I don't understand about the blood thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Jasper was kind of inscrutable at times.
[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed the actor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I thought he was pretty terrifying and a good character.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're a prisoner.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just didn't understand exactly what he was going for until I guess he end and then you have the whole world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, let's turn the whole world, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: There should be more vampires.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, not enough right how many vampires are there in the world?
[SPEAKER_01]: Not enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was a good line.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: The great turning and all that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so hopefully we do see the resolution of that in season three, although I'm hoping for some great period pieces with a listot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if any of these, would you like any of these characters from either May Fair which is Ortella Masca to show up in season three of interview of the Vampire for anyone who doesn't know it's just going to be called the Vampire Lestat because it's based on the second book in the series, which has that title.
[SPEAKER_03]: Would you like to see any of these characters show up there?
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I would like to see more resolution of Doris's plot line.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I, my favorite character in May for which is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, everyone except I'm just a daughter, but, um, I think I would say my favorite is, um, oh my god, now I'm more than anyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like Moira a lot, but I was going to say, um, what's his name?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I can't think of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it Cyprian?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, the dad of, of the main character, Rowan's dad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, yeah, um, of my gosh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which is right now though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, right, right, uh, Oh my god, who are terrible at this?
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a major character in the books, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who is Ron's dad in May Fair Witches?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, courtly May Fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is how fast I purged May Fair Witches for my head.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I would like to see from this show Jasper Interact with the other vampires.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that would... Can we find Jason Schwartzman showed up, too?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, he's like, they're like ex-lovers.
[SPEAKER_03]: And of course they would be.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like what's out is just like banging half the vampires in the world.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's had centuries to get around so.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, like I said, I would rather see other characters.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So from, I guess I would like to see the Vampire characters from this show up like not necessarily dorses, but Jasper and Burton Jason's workman vampire show up.
[SPEAKER_03]: And from May fair witches.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like part of me is like, do we want to get lasher involved?
[SPEAKER_03]: I like no, they need to figure lasher out before they get them involved anywhere else.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to go past for now in the May Fair Witches characters showing up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyone else?
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyone else who you're thinking about?
[SPEAKER_03]: Showing up in the next season?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I wouldn't hate it if Helen showed up or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we didn't even mention, by the way, that we did have another crossover, an important character for the interview with the Vampire storyline.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh, no, I'm forgetting his name too.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not here in the character list on Wikipedia, played by Justin Witz's face.
[SPEAKER_03]: I tell a mask, uh, Justin, this might be the least.
[SPEAKER_03]: Justin Kirkley is literally.
[SPEAKER_03]: We did no notes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Raglan James, Raglan James.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know the deal with, so he, Raglan, sorry, Raglan James was in season two of interview with the vampire as a telemasca agent and now he's showed up in also this telemaska show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know the deal with him from the books and can I spoil something about him you can spoil something okay So warning spoiler definitely going to come into play his power in in the books He was a telemask agent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and he ended up getting kind of kicked out for stealing something important Okay, so they were going in that direction for sure, but his major power is that he can do body swaps with people Or vampire
[SPEAKER_01]: or vampires.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's tricky.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: So for reasons I won't spoil his story, he doesn't need to continue on interview with Vampire, but
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's interesting that they brought them over here as well, which signals to me also they might be more directly crossing over between these two.
[SPEAKER_03]: They must be setting that up, but it's not quite time for that yet, but although we don't know with season three, with the vampire that's not like, are they going to combine that with the next book in the series?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they did in the movie?
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, there's the bad movie about the Queen of the Damned.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, they got to move a little faster than they have been, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they did two seasons for one book.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it was the most important book.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're finally, and they delayed certain things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we're finally getting Gabrielle in season three.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's dot some mom.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, sorry, now we're just I feel like They want to talk about in this show like it was just a very shallow show when I would say that's my biggest criticism of it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there just wasn't a lot of meat there to dig into and I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they had to set the stage.
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing is I thought the stage was pretty set and interview with the vampire and season one
[SPEAKER_01]: And they did not do that this season.
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe six episodes was too little.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they just sort of made it eight or nine episodes and resolved the mother plot line and I would have felt better.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I did feel a little like it was fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I would, if season two comes back, I will watch it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's the best thing I can say about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm slightly more positive on it than you are.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also, I think it helped a lot, going in, not expecting that it would be anywhere within the range of caliber of interview of the vampire.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was expecting something closer to May Fair Witches.
[SPEAKER_03]: And at least this one had a bit much, and was, is what did you, what was the word you used about one character, like, inscrutable or something?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, all the motivations were inscrutable, but it was also a more direct story in a lot of ways, like it felt like a newer was going but not necessarily how to get there and a satisfyingly meandering way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I think a half hours and appropriate
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, okay, what would you give it if what would you give it out of a five rating scale?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, three, and what would you give it was watchable?
[SPEAKER_03]: What would you give me for which is season two?
[SPEAKER_01]: Season two, I would also give it maybe a 3.5, like it was just I had a little more enjoyment with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There were, yeah, I cared more about the characters in that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe because I've spent more time with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just in general a weakness of modern TV that we spend less time with characters.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I just did care more about the characters in May Fair Witches.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought that a lot of the acting was a lot better, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Portland, I think is a masterclass.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if I complain about Alexander DeDario, Josephine, great actor in Josephine's ant, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: in May fair, which is, yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Moira was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty much everyone around Alexander to the heart who is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I would give a little bit of an edge to May fair, which is season two.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, he's in one was a two.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to be clear.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm going to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: The opposite three point five to this three to make for which is he's in two and it's not about the cast or the actors.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that they all did a good job.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just this story in this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just thought that the writing was a bit more cohesive in this one and the story to me a bit more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Scotland wasn't enough to sell it for you and will fake Scotland and fake.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did, I did like the whole, the production design for May Fair, which is season two, particularly that wedding in Scotland, that was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, costuming was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this was a little bit more muted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just we didn't, we didn't even talk about the mob vampires.
[SPEAKER_03]: The mob vampires.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So once you had the one who had the ancient vampire, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, the vampire mob, I was like, all right, guys, this is to get a little too much.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's another one, I guess, teasing for the tying, because there's going to be with this whole great conversion thing they're setting up.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be conflicting ideas and interests about whether or not this is a good idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can imagine it's a, hey, let's get rid of our full food
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, not full force food to play, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's really about, I guess it becomes a story about creating, I just keep hearing, like I listened to a economy podcast and they keep talking about how there's currently a K-shaped economy where, you know, the rich are getting richer in the poor are getting poorer right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like they're making a K-shaped humanity where, you know, those who become vampires are more supreme and those who remain humans are now food supply.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I have no more to say about this show.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm stretching my brain already.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm curious.
[SPEAKER_03]: If other people watched it, if you have ideas about it, like we said, we do have, we have an an-rice immortal chat under currently current shows, but I think we're going to move it back to franchises.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a telemask chat there.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'd love to hear from you, or do we have a special email address for this?
[SPEAKER_03]: We just lower herounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's horror at the lorehounds.com.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we might have by the time of interview with a vampire, we might have a special immortals email, but for now, just use horror or lorehounds at the lorehounds.com.
[SPEAKER_01]: great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I promise everyone will be more positive on interview with the vampire.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that this show is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're usually if you've listened to a long term, this is the first time you're hearing us is like one of the most negative podcasts we probably ever recorded.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's so pretty.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's for me this show is okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Interview with the vampire, just we didn't give ratings for that, but like five out of five, both seasons.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like even if I can give even season two a five, plus out of five, I'm going there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it is literally my favorite show out of all of them, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was my top show last year.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was definitely my top show last year, and the first season was my top show of 2022, so.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I, I will say like, I think we could have a long podcast on a show we love and a long podcast on a show we hate.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason this is a short podcast is because we are neither here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was, it was a show, it, we went through all six episodes watching and I don't regret it and I'll watch next season.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is as generically fine as the name of the first of the main character, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because he's like a, um, he's literally just a guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess that was, that was a bit on the nose naming, but maybe that's why in universe, maybe that's why he was given that name to keep him anonymous.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you say, that's, you're really stretched over here.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's do a quick outro.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing a lot of stuff on the network.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got blurb as going full coverage.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got me in Alicia on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to dairy full coverage with Mark.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and yeah, we've got some movie stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's just predator balance.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just came out Frankenstein and wicked the wicked for good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I always want to say part two, but it's called for good out of the best song.
[SPEAKER_03]: And those yeah, we'll be coming up shortly and
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Christmas coming and we're doing action Christmas.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just saw the poll.
[SPEAKER_01]: We the action movies won my LN slide, so I don't think there's any chance of the poll going the other way.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be on the subscribers.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get a die hard face off and die hard versus die hard too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the public feed will have a cover of Violet Knight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, and the end of year TV top 10, the poll is out for subscribers now on your top 10s.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I saw that David is recording various, he's talking to the various hosts about their top 3s and biggest misses and all that, so watch out for those pods to come soon.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very stressed about putting together my list.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have you know what I'm going to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a list of qualifying shows and I think right now it's at like 18 maybe So I might try to trim that a little bit and then I'm going to use An algorithm, you know an app online basically that just helps you rank where you just put in the the items you want to rank and then it just compares like okay Which do you like better this or this and then it does that until you have Two at a time ranked all the things
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to say for your benefit that silo does qualify this here and I don't want people to forget because I screwed it with my rules yet last year so silo qualifies you can rank silo season and skeleton crew for that matter
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: The skeleton crew's on my qualifying list.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see if it makes the ready.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I really liked it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really liked it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I liked it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's good that I don't know if I'd rank it in my top tag.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, I think it's a good list.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's eligible for my top tag.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it is a tough year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very tough year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what my number one has right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't tie there.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be a surprise when I do this ranking.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe I'll decide on the pod.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know?
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, um, I'm going to do a quick.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know, we didn't talk about the affiliates.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nevermind.
[SPEAKER_01]: Music has weekly coverage of music and psychology and they're doing great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mark's also on, uh, it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Dary and Nicole was on Porbus with David.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, and she's going to be on the wicked not part two stop saying that brain for good with Marilyn and I Radio active ramlings is about to cover fallout season two.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be a lot of fun And we've got probably Howard on break right now rings in rituals on break right now and what do you got on your feeds Alicia?
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll shift test is it's I'm still finishing up Frankenstein.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got behind there just because I had to do other works so that I could pay rent And yeah, annoying and so I'm finishing up Frankenstein still I'm actually gonna hopefully put out an episode today and then Luke and I have already started recording our year two of a Christmas Carol with I forget how many more
[SPEAKER_01]: That's funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fun because we don't have to like recap the plots.
[SPEAKER_03]: We just talk about like, okay, with this one, the Scrooge was that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think it's going to be a delight.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm looking forward to that.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've already made two delightful recordings.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do our thank yous.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do the discord server boosters if you do the lore master.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, I have to find the list somewhere else.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you have till the end of the discord server list.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, thank you, everyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a lovely time discussing a less than lovely show, but a, you know, it's amazing show.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a lovely enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a pleasant show, I suppose.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll be back with more comforts of the ad race.
[SPEAKER_01]: More to the universe when interview with the Empires season three is coming out.
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