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[SPEAKER_05]: Do this a Laurel Gary and Marc Classic Conversations podcast back again for another week and another exciting week of interviews and chats classic conversations that's good because I like revisiting exciting weeks because I have not had one right Well, let's have a chat about what's coming up in this one John White and why he's very nervous about going to the toilet I Excuse me.
[SPEAKER_07]: I cannot be blamed because every time he thinks of Laurel he just blocks
[SPEAKER_00]: Love John Wait, when I was a young girl and I'd go to Skateway, Mount Gravatt, on a Saturday afternoon session with the Gumbi Skates, we used to call them the highest skates in the realm.
[SPEAKER_05]: You might have to explain Gumbi to our international listeners.
[SPEAKER_00]: Basically very daggy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have my own lovely white boot skates.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, it was a lot of fun, but with the
[SPEAKER_00]: Wonderful soundtrack was the babies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every time I think of you isn't at time Just got absolutely hooked and mesmerised by the video clip of John White with that spiky Reddish hair and the earring playing bass up front.
[SPEAKER_00]: But one good thing about this interview We have a chat to John and you may have noticed that in the baby's he played bass and did vocals
[SPEAKER_00]: But then as he moved through his career into a solo career, because he was with bad English, of course, he didn't play based anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was just the, well, not just the singer, but he was the singer up front.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in his solo career as well, we'll ask him why that change happened.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we have a full 12 minute interview, which was kind of rare.
[SPEAKER_05]: We would never be able to play that.
[SPEAKER_05]: So there's a lot of stuff in this chat that no one has ever heard before.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he also wrote that incredible song, missing you and we'll check in with him and ask, where was he when he first found out that it went to number one?
[SPEAKER_05]: but not just John Wait, we also have another interview as well with an actor, Timothy Spore.
[SPEAKER_05]: Love Timothy Spore.
[SPEAKER_00]: I first saw him in, it would have been in Chanted, but also getting square, the wonderful Australian film was David Wennham and Sam Werdington and it was just fantastic and to watch that film now and see all of those familiar locations come up around Main Beach.
[SPEAKER_07]: Have you seen Spit?
[SPEAKER_00]: have not seen it yet.
[SPEAKER_07]: I saw it recently.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not as good as the first one, but they're still a couple are really good last.
[SPEAKER_07]: And when I say it's not far off, it's still a very enjoyable, but you're right, you're just watching.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh man, that's down the gauges.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, no, that one is in spirit.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's David when wearing his spit wearing the Leopard print underpants like in the sense he does, you know, yeah, and does he require a is it a bus fare or something?
[SPEAKER_07]: He does mean he's in a bus fare.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's always got this permanent console.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's one of those interviews that I remember, I walk away going, now did he talk about that after the interview or was that actually in the interview because he was such a lovely person.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's sort of just hung around and we chatted in the studio just about our personal lives.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was in Australia promoting that really touching film with Vanessa Redgrave, Mrs. Laurian, son and oh goodness, what a tear joker.
[SPEAKER_05]: Alright, so that's coming up.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But as we always do, let's find out.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll go round the grounds to what we've been up to.
[SPEAKER_05]: Lose.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, I've been endeavouring to turn with Ratter unit up the coast at beautiful Clounder on the Sunshine Coast for about 20 years now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Back in the day where people said it was a sleepy little retirement village, I'm happy to say it still is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great little spot, but I've always wanted to have it themed teakey Hawaiian teakey.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, cool.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, that is great.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm excited to say, because I've done everything in sort of like pretty much mid-century furniture.
[SPEAKER_01]: The reason why that's really great is that the reason why that's really great is that you can go to the tip shop.
[SPEAKER_00]: and get all of your furniture really all roadside pickup whichever you choose and guess what I found the other day at the local nursery walking through a carved teaky pole a town statue yes into snap it up don't tell Troy what I paid for it but it looks fantastic because it's an outdoor one it's a timber stuck in the corner and guess what arrived in the
[SPEAKER_00]: me solar powered Tiki torches with with realistic light so it looks like there's a housewarming coming up in certain people are invited because I'm gonna be there it looks like a frame and the only thing that Troy can do is send me memes of the Brady bunch with her
[SPEAKER_00]: Did it do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually he admitted that it was natural, but it was the air that made the humidity in the air that made his air freeze You should throw your hair out long on the sides and perm it up.
[SPEAKER_05]: That'd be awesome going
[SPEAKER_05]: What have you been up to this week?
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, look, continuing life.
[SPEAKER_07]: Have you listened to the last episode?
[SPEAKER_07]: I gave you wonderful stories about my visits to doctors and health.
[SPEAKER_07]: Actually, it's not too bad.
[SPEAKER_07]: But I'll big visits to the dentist.
[SPEAKER_07]: You may have noticed that I look a little bit like a stroke victim, because I've still got one side of the mouth gauge then.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing to be to laugh at.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you do look like you've been punched by Paul Gallon.
[SPEAKER_07]: How can you tell when the drum rises?
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not even.
[SPEAKER_07]: Just dribbles out of one side.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, no, I had to, I was supposed to go into, I've had some teeth disappear.
[SPEAKER_07]: In France, a baguette took my baby tooth.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: You always blame the food item that you're eating.
[SPEAKER_07]: It wasn't a baguette that took my baby tooth.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so, I've had to go, so I've had enough, and Lian said, no, look, this is ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: because you were never getting the most placed.
[SPEAKER_07]: You were just, like, you used to, but then they started to get a few too many holes.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so we worked out to do it.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I went in, it was supposed to be two hours.
[SPEAKER_07]: And this was the, taken a couple of teeth out, making holes, shoving bone up into the sinus.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_07]: And instead of two hours, I was in the chair for three and a half hours.
[SPEAKER_07]: He broke two diamond drill.
[SPEAKER_07]: Six.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I said he'd never in all his years
[SPEAKER_07]: And I see, well, I'm not having a great time either.
[SPEAKER_07]: I feel like, although when I said it to, we're going to do it!
[SPEAKER_07]: But he seemed to know what I was saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did he add the replacement costs of the drills onto your build?
[SPEAKER_07]: I do's a hope not.
[SPEAKER_07]: I've done the right to look, I really am.
[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, so I'm a little bit gappy, and they haven't put the little steel rods in yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you at least got pintulas?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, how do you think I do the show?
[SPEAKER_05]: For years.
[SPEAKER_05]: You should next time consider going to a dentist rather than the cleaner.
[SPEAKER_10]: I thought he was.
[SPEAKER_05]: They know this stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll look, I hope you're feeling better anyway.
[SPEAKER_05]: And a little vague today.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure hopped up on the pain killers.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, what?
[SPEAKER_05]: I've been having visitors.
[SPEAKER_05]: Left right in the last week I told you I had my mate, Mr. C, come and visit me.
[SPEAKER_05]: One of my favorite nephews, Isaac, came and stayed.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's my sister's son.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he just got married.
[SPEAKER_05]: I love having a newlywed in there as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: Six months ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: Peter's son that went along to the dinner you muster?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's my other.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's your other nephew.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, another nephew.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's your other nephew.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's your other nephew.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's your other nephew.
[UNKNOWN]: That's your other nephew.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, and he went every everyone is asking about that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I never asked that question I do straight it with it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, there's not a lot of there's a lot of young in these days that they're deciding not to look I think things are gonna happen because all their friends are having babies and when all their friends start having babies They say go one of those.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I was not knowing that they caused you years of pain and torture
[SPEAKER_05]: and not to mention the cost.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the cost as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that was my wife's first thing she said, no, don't have one, seriously.
[SPEAKER_06]: Your life is so good, you're traveling, you've got to dog everything's happy.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I saw a new thing the other day where women are being told to freeze their eggs earlier.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, don't wait till you're late 30s and stuff.
[SPEAKER_07]: Freeze your eggs early and then you can leave your little life and then maybe go, oh, I think I'm ready now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: Then you can, sorry, get to have them.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, it's always the woman has put up with all of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're the one that has to have the wound.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, me.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, no one asked us.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, male spend two minutes just saving the child.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, who Mr. Brady?
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are here for classic companies.
[SPEAKER_00]: We wish for men of course.
[SPEAKER_07]: Classic contraceptive.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's been a pause.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was really man-opause.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wouldn't have to put up with this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Classic conversations.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we get a little carried away there.
[SPEAKER_05]: But we are going to go back on track because John White will be joining us in just the moment.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, how do we introduce this next guest?
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a part in it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Laurel, I know you've caught up with him outside toilets.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll get to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have always loved John White from the babies, the babies in the 70s and then bad English in the 80s.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so long.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so long, of course, missing you.
[SPEAKER_00]: What a worldwide smash and such a fantastic song that he wrote himself.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I remember being at Nashville Airport because we were lucky.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was around 2010, wasn't it?
[SPEAKER_00]: That I was able to broadcast our breakfast show, Laurel Gary Mark from Nashville, Troy was over there doing some songwriting and performing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're there for about three months and the kids went to school and stuff, but when we packed up to come home, we got to the airport and John Wage had the long hair.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he just done a very, very successful version of Missing You with Alison Krause.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there would be reason for him to be in a national sense, hence why I saw this guy walking in to the men's toilets at the National Airport thinking, that looks so much like John Wake.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go away for over there near the door until he comes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not suspicious at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: choice said you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_05]: What did you do with that stage one or off?
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll leave you do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have anything to do with it anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was an absolute delight.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when we finally got to meet, I was just so nervous.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I just blurted at all this rubbish.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what a fantastic guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: What an incredible talent.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's sure he answered the phone and we call.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now we too will always the weird one that we caught him in the bathroom, which is really weird.
[SPEAKER_05]: Every time we interview with John White, he's always in a bathroom somewhere.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you know what baby's a like?
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's take a listen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well I'm a little excited, now 4KQ listeners will know the story of when I spotted one of my favorite all-time singers, walk into the men's toilet at Nashville airport and I waited, waited for him to come out, so I could crash tackle him and meet him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the restraining order has expired by the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: I told him, get your self to Australia and guess what?
[SPEAKER_00]: As he pushed me away, he listened to me, he's coming to Australia, John White, good morning!
[SPEAKER_00]: Good morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, nice to speak to you again.
[SPEAKER_02]: How are you doing?
[SPEAKER_07]: I know this is not in the studio talking to us though.
[SPEAKER_02]: What did you do?
[SPEAKER_02]: You scared him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure she's got an ankle bracelet on her stump and I'm safe where I am.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very good reason, John, because ever since I was eight years old, I have just adored you and every single bit of music you've ever done.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, that's very sweet, you thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_10]: And John, you would make it feel pretty old, though.
[SPEAKER_05]: And John, you would remember that meeting, of course.
[SPEAKER_05]: I did, I remember that they was, it was a long time ago, those couple of years, isn't it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is a couple of years.
[SPEAKER_00]: You had a copy of Keith Richards book on your arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well there you go, so it must be at least two years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Jesus, you must have been in the toilet for a long time.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's a big book.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, it's a big book.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's a big job, and it's a big book.
[SPEAKER_10]: But yeah, it was a good read.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's a page turner.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Better.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're really looking forward to coming down.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's been such a long time since you've been planning to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And finally, the chance came up to come.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we just jumped at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're really looking forward to coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I go back to the beginning for you and Australia here, it was with the babies that you broke through with every time I think of you and isn't it time?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: We spoke to Jack Conrad, the writer of those songs recently, he said that isn't it time actually sat on the shelf for quite a few years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the demo was kind of like him at a piano and it sounded like it was just a
[SPEAKER_02]: and a humble pie was big to me, at least in the blackberries when Steve Murray was working with the blackberries.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the idea of bringing African-American girls into making it into more of a soul thing, I think we all pulled a rabbit out of the hat with us songs really.
[SPEAKER_02]: But more power to him, the great songs, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were very young guys at the time, I mean, in English.
[SPEAKER_00]: Babies.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were Babies.
[SPEAKER_00]: You exploded onto the scene.
[SPEAKER_00]: How was that with a massive change in lifestyle?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, actually, you know, we were pretty well behaved.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's looking back on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's an incredible thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: When we came over to America, we all brought our wives and girlfriends.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that kept us somewhat on the control.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think coming from the north of England,
[SPEAKER_02]: some common sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just horse sense, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think LA is pretty obvious.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you see, you see, come in at some point.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you do get, you fall over a occasion, you know, it was perfect.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that we handled it very well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really can't believe we got through it the way we did.
[SPEAKER_07]: After five albums, and the baby's changed by about the third and fourth album didn't they?
[SPEAKER_07]: You really got a little bit heavy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, I was right in most of the songs and the melodies and lyrics and the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: When we went to a five-piece band, again, like Humble Pie, I thought Steve Marriott would step back and let Greg really sing a couple.
[SPEAKER_02]: And all that kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I felt obligated to sort of let the reins out a bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it might have been not the best thing, but we had a couple of great years touring.
[SPEAKER_02]: went out with a bang.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think it was the highest note we got to was the head first record, which is the third record, which at every time I think you want to hand the head first.
[SPEAKER_02]: And after that we had just big radio songs that back in my feet and midnight rendezvous.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think after that point, I think I was hanging around just to sort of the guys didn't want to go back to England and I was sort of torn.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think it was a great couple of years, but the writing was on the wall at that point, I think.
[SPEAKER_00]: being in the baby's your base player and singing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, some of my favorite of that combination is like Benjamin or from the cars and Paul McCartney from the Beatles and Mark King level 52 are 42 and sting from the police, of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't, I like people don't realize that when you're part of the rhythm section with the drums, it's quite difficult isn't it to sing and do base at the same time?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, it's to a point that I, I, I, I was singing the same
[SPEAKER_02]: that sting or McCartney or Andy Fraser when he was writing melodies with poor Rogers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jack Bruce, I think in a kind of blues fashion, I come from a blues school of African American music and a huge influence on me, but singing with the bass, I would that's how I got my vocal style.
[SPEAKER_02]: You finish the chord off, you play the root note, it could be major or minor and you sing the note and you get all these
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think a lot to do with why the first version of the baby was kind of distinctive because I was learning to sing at the same time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But in the end, I had to make a choice between being a singer or a bass player because I couldn't really be great at one thing or the other.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's sure McCartney can clean his teeth in the morning and play a great bass line and sing at the same time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I can't even walk in a straight line and chew gum.
[SPEAKER_02]: a one thing, I can do one thing really well, you know, and I think I chose seeing it because I thought it would be more original, you know.
[SPEAKER_07]: When the baby's broke up, you're then there out on your own and you've done the first solo album, which did okay, but then missing you absolutely explodes worldwide.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's your second crack at success.
[SPEAKER_07]: How did that go?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that was kind of weird because I was by myself, you know, when you were when you were the band, you can always go in a quiet beer with the bass player or the guitar player,
[SPEAKER_02]: and commiserate and talk about what your next move is going to be or you've got so much to turn when you're at the top and you buy yourself you just buy yourself and it was kind of a strange reality to be so the top of the pyramid you know by yourself and it was fun and it was great but after about a year of it I started to get kind of tick of it really.
[SPEAKER_02]: the touring was relentless and the pressure was enormous and I couldn't even go out and buy cap food, you know, you get recognized everywhere you go and I think at that point being thrown in the deep end you start back in a way, I bought a big house in the country outside New York City and disappeared there for years so.
[SPEAKER_00]: With missing you were a number one in a lot of countries around the world but the big market USA, do you know where you were when you found
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was on a Hollywood film set.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was doing a TV series called Pepadone and that the phone rang on the sound stage.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was about to go on stage and say a few lines.
[SPEAKER_02]: This TV shown to me and a bit of the phone.
[SPEAKER_02]: And somebody said I was number one.
[SPEAKER_02]: You never forget that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's like, especially being solo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bad English for number one, a few years later.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it didn't mean quite as much because that was a band thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're proud of the band.
[SPEAKER_02]: But to get there by yourself is pretty tough, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've got an incredible range as a singer and a beautiful tone in your voice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you found the voices changed in any way over the years?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he's got, I mean, I had to say, because I'm sure it's going to disappear on me, as soon as I say this.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's stronger than he's ever been in clearer and harder.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know whether that's sheer luck.
[SPEAKER_02]: or growing into it, or they reckon that Italian sopranos, when they get a bit of weight, they have better voices.
[SPEAKER_02]: I probably gained about 20 pounds since I was about 30.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I mean, I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: I smoked for a great deal in my life and, you know, I like to drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea why it's stayed the way it's stayed.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's such a great thing to be older.
[SPEAKER_02]: and have the same instrument because you don't have to drop the keys of anything and I find myself hitting high notes so um like with every time I thank you instead of doing on stage when if the backing goes to sing the part and then I sing the answer I just sing the whole thing and the yeah and the reason I didn't sing the whole thing in the first time rounds I couldn't hit the note so I don't know why it's like it is I'm really truly grateful for it
[SPEAKER_02]: it's a lot of fun, you know.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well people will be able to hear that voice and see you Friday, November 16, Eaton's Hill Hotel, really looking forward to it.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll be the one out front cheering you on, long with the one backstage by the men's room.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really sorry, actually I'm going to the Twin Towns shows and they already know they've got a photograph of me and they've already got to know they're not to let me backstage so you're safe you're safe
[SPEAKER_10]: It's a beautiful thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: I look forward to seeing you again.
[SPEAKER_00]: John White, an absolute pleasure.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am just going to smile all day.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when we see each other again, you can see me smile.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can even sing it to me.
[SPEAKER_07]: Is the movie misery mean anything to you?
[SPEAKER_09]: a lot of fan.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we're hoping that you might be coming into the studio.
[SPEAKER_05]: We were told you that we were promised that you were coming in the studio when you get here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's very possible.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it could come and say hello.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I have the entire baby's collection to be autographed and some bad English albums.
[SPEAKER_07]: John White albums.
[SPEAKER_07]: I got about a dozen words to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got some words to do.
[SPEAKER_10]: I've got some words to do.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, listen, you know, it'd be a real bus to come and see everybody, but we're really out looking forward to it, I mean, it's just a long time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a lot of time off, so maybe we'll come and see you.
[SPEAKER_07]: I must say that for many years, I had my very own John Wade Babies collection on cassette, which I did myself.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was a scene 92, my friend.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm 16, 60.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're nuts all the way.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're not supposed to tell him that I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[SPEAKER_09]: Don't bless you, thank you.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was John White and just technically what happened there was we've played an extra little bit at the end that no one would ever normally hear because quite often we'll get an ID by the artists Who says some nice things about the station that we play going into the song and then there's a joke action who will not do an ID for you Yeah, there are some other story.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there are people who just fly that refuse a but John White what a champion he was Philip the light and then it rolled into a bit more interesting chat that we've had so that's what we get with these classic conversations
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I could you imagine John White.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is one of the big tours that he did a few years back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Rick Springfield, Colin Hay, of Men at Work and John White.
[SPEAKER_07]: Wasn't that one of Rick's tours on the boat?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I might have been, I think he does that himself, Gary, because he gets the ladies and by himself.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was actually a tour across North America and by boat.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm just on a scramble here.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's hard work, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: But wouldn't that be?
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not true, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Incredible.
[SPEAKER_01]: You should really should read the notes before you start the podcast.
[SPEAKER_07]: We get notes.
[SPEAKER_01]: We get notes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Big Gary, you brought it up.
[SPEAKER_07]: Who you whose name I can't remember?
[SPEAKER_07]: We're left him off the email years ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've been working here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I used to work with a person called Laurel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Three decades, I'm just grey now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gary, you can't just drop a name like Joe Jackson and not explain what happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't interview with Joe by yourself.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was at some strange hour and I was off doing something else and you... Yeah, I really love it.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was five past nine in the morning and you refused to work.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I did not.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, it was just me and I was a bit of a Joe Jackson fan.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was quite a Joe Jackson fan a heap of albums And the interview's going on and we're always asked I'll get an ID get an ID and I must admit I don't always forget to get an ID.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, no, I remember this time and We did the interview was fine, you know, and blah, blah, blah I said I look Joe and before we go can we get an ID for the show?
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't do that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Who do you?
[SPEAKER_07]: You know I don't do that.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sitting there.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm thinking no, I didn't know that Who nobody told me who is responsible?
[SPEAKER_07]: I want to find their name You should know that I don't do I do something.
[SPEAKER_07]: I came as the Jackson.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you very much I don't think we'll take an idea.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it was really horrible
[SPEAKER_00]: very disappointing when you've loved someone or your life and you've admired them and then you finally get to interview them and they're not very nice we should probably do a this should be a benchmark actually yeah also the opposite too when you think someone could be a little prickly and then you end up finding out that they're absolutely gorgeous unfortunately we've had more of those in it so yeah we have because I have one where we
[SPEAKER_05]: Because I have one that is was the worst interview.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is before my time with Lord Gary and Mark I interviewed Lenny Kravitz.
[SPEAKER_05]: He was a horrible interview.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was terrible It was like he did not want to talk to me.
[SPEAKER_05]: He just said yes as a nose I eventually in the middle of the interview said look this is going nowhere if we don't want to do this interview That's fine
[SPEAKER_05]: Would just how did he react he was just like oh whatever man and then hang up, and that was the end of the interview And it was I don't know what had happened in his life because I've seen interviews and he's very very good But in that moment he just didn't want to do the interview didn't want to do it with me He didn't want to talk and I was like okay well, and that never went away and you could probably say the same You couldn't say the same about one Courtney love
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that was a coincidence.
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, tell us about that, because I'd always heard that she was very, very difficult.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I heard that as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I went into an interview and it was in a big room, and she's in there being interviewed by another radio announcer, I can mention, she's not like, like, if you're alone here, was interviewing her.
[SPEAKER_05]: and she was quite doing a good interview with him.
[SPEAKER_05]: But then she started to get touchy and angry about having to do these things called notties because he was filming her for television.
[SPEAKER_05]: And she said, well, what are notties?
[SPEAKER_05]: And she obviously didn't understand.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they're going, are they're nods to camera to put editing points in when you're doing these things?
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not a difficult thing you're ever going to do.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, that's exactly right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And she's gone, well, well, anyway, they are all quite the she absolutely lost it at one of the her people who worked for her and dressed this poor girl down.
[SPEAKER_05]: I won't say who it was dressed her down in front of everyone.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was terrible.
[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, she came over to the state.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's so to the table where I'd set up and I'm thinking, this is going to be the worst interview ever sits down.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's all jangly and everything.
[SPEAKER_05]: Some reason halfway through the interview,
[SPEAKER_05]: She stops and halt reaches over and starts holding my hand and going, your voice sounds like sunshine on Malibu.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's like, okay, things are going pretty well here.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I've been told specifically, do not mention Kurt Cobain.
[SPEAKER_05]: I really wanted to, by that stage, I could ask her anything I wanted to about Kurt Cobain.
[SPEAKER_05]: And she answered all the questions that I wanted to.
[SPEAKER_05]: Then she said, would you like to come back stage after the show tonight?
[SPEAKER_05]: I said,
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I said I do breakfast radio, so I like to get to bed pretty early.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you proof?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Were you married at that stage?
[SPEAKER_07]: No, I was single.
[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't get to get to get to get to get to get to see a hole.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Gary, that's the name of the band.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I tell you about my situation of this as well as when I first started in radio I've told this story before but it was quite phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd never done radio before.
[SPEAKER_00]: All of a sudden they're looking for someone to work with Kim Mother Shore on 4KQ Breakfast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Audition got the role and they said, oh, in two weeks time you're off to London for the 25th anniversary of Sergeant Peppers.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this would have been 1992, I guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we get over there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so new to radio.
[SPEAKER_00]: terrified about what I'm going to say what I'm going to do we're interviewing bands that I wasn't too sure of one band or whilst sure of Queen.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got to interview Brian May and it was six months after Freddie Mercury had passed away.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we were read the right act by the PR person.
[SPEAKER_00]: you will not.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't face to face.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was over the phone, even though we were in London, but we're happy with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you will not mention Ferry McGregor.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, this is going to be difficult.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking to, you know, the band member of Queen, he's just passed away.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, we avoided it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was so scared.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I was literally shaking while we're doing the interview.
[SPEAKER_00]: The nicest man.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I've heard that so many times since the nicest man you would ever want to
[SPEAKER_00]: We get about two questions into the interview and he says, you know, that was the wonderful thing about Freddie, Freddie always knew blah, blah, blah, so that was our green light.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was where it was like, rather of folks, please ask me anything you like.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you realize all that.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, he made that decision too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go there.
[SPEAKER_07]: Sorry, it was like when we interviewed Bob Guild off.
[SPEAKER_07]: I said, do not mention I don't like Mondays.
[SPEAKER_07]: Don't, and we did everything, but
[SPEAKER_07]: But again, yeah, he started, he brought it up and then I said, well, you've brought it up.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: And you, you can see you went there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fair and you got me open.
[SPEAKER_05]: We were only allowed to talk about the vegetarians of love.
[SPEAKER_05]: You said, which is all you wanted to talk about.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, yeah, but what happens in those interview situations, especially I used to go to a lot of hotels without staying at and cart my gear there.
[SPEAKER_05]: You'd go through about maybe three, four, five sometimes even PR people who would try to put the wind up you, it's like they'll be scaring you and saying, well, they're in a really
[SPEAKER_05]: We've got a guy who was really beautiful when he dropped by this studio, Timothy Sporle coming up in just a while.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the English actor, how wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_05]: One last time for one of those interviews that, like I said earlier, I didn't know where the interview started and stopped and the person that we were just chatting to continued.
[SPEAKER_05]: He was such a lovely man when he came into our studio.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Timothy Spore, the English actor, was in Australia promoting that beautiful film Mrs. Lowry and son with Vanessa Regrae van, wow, it's a beautiful film.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was also a great character in Chanted, that wonderful film, magical film that it is, but he has a great story about being spotted in New York City, it's quite funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, we know that he's been that terrific Australian film getting squarely places.
[SPEAKER_07]: Darren, Danba, Barrington.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dabba, where he plays the money laundering gangster who tries to learn to money through a failing restaurant, which is was the scene of the Mexican restaurant at Labrador there.
[SPEAKER_00]: If ever, yeah, it was actually a Mexican place that we used to go to all the time at Labrador, but anyway, he's a great guy, Timothy Spall.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and he must have quite an affinity with Australian, because he's made quite a few Australian movies.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's take a listen to our classic chat with Timothy Spall.
[SPEAKER_00]: How many times have we talked about the great Australian film getting square on?
[SPEAKER_06]: Every second episode of the show we do.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Can I have my copy from the movie back then?
[SPEAKER_06]: And you're the one who brings it up all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love this film.
[SPEAKER_00]: with David Werner and Gary Sweets and Worthington and Mr. Timothy Spore, it is a fantastic film.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited to say that one of the stars has come into see us today because his new film is just an absolute delight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Timothy Spore!
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you have fun doing getting square here in Australia?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't absolutely ball doing it, it's both funny and believable and outrageous, and that was kind of the experience as well, it was great fun.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, the character you played in this current movie, Mrs. Larry and son, couldn't be more opposite to the one you played in, uh, getting square.
[SPEAKER_07]: So there's quite a width of the acting there.
[SPEAKER_04]: One of the things I've always tried about being too serious about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's just not ringing the changes.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, when I was a kid act, when I was young, I was all, you know, what I do is I never liked to repeat myself.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, when I joined a nice for you theater, which I think you have here, which is a big summer thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I played full staff of 17.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well I learnt a lot and I also did a cock me grumpy dad of a young boxer so it was I've always right from way way back.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just always been natural for me to just play different parts.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a delightful film.
[SPEAKER_00]: You and Vanessa Reggrave, Vanessa plays your mother, or you want, and it seems to be an age old story is a son that wants acceptance from their parent.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to be a painter, you are a painter in your own eyes.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yet, you've still got this pushback from a parent.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's a very good question and also fundamentally what the film is about.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, this is a man, all his life, kind of trained to look after his mother.
[SPEAKER_04]: She was an even only child, a woman, that huge aspirations, and they lived in a posh-apart of town.
[SPEAKER_04]: When he was born and due to a father being a let down him eventually being a let down as well Never getting on in the job because he was a rent collector all his life right up to the age of 65 Even when he was an associate member the royal academy of half he was still collect in rent in Sulfur he was representative of her disappointment in her life But he was also trained to serve her every whim He never had any other Clotorations with a woman a man or anybody so she was it
[SPEAKER_07]: A lot of people would think of her as the mother from hell.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a constant wave of negativity.
[SPEAKER_07]: But when she passed away, he went into quite a long time of depression, didn't he?
[SPEAKER_04]: He did, and later he was offered a night-hood.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was offered CB, OBE, and I think an order of merit turned them all down.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they said, why?
[SPEAKER_04]: It said, well, what mother's dead doesn't seem to make any sense, really, at this, she wouldn't know why I don't see the point of it, you know, also what is tragic is that just at the point of death, that's when he became successful.
[SPEAKER_04]: So she never saw it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And again, he said, well, it was great, but it never felt quite right, you know, because she wasn't there to see it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Are you seem to be the go-to guy for a famous British painter's L. S. Larry, you did miss to turn a, of course, what's next for your
[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody ever knows what exactly you think of anybody could look just like him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: He could look at my maybe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you find that you know you walk around especially America because I would imagine with the younger people who absolutely loved Disney and anything to do with princesses and Cinderella's and villains, etc.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were the villain in enchanted.
[SPEAKER_04]: Depopeless, the hapless villain.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you're useless, villain.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd say everybody's story about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was in a time square, you know, in the characters.
[SPEAKER_04]: They pop up out of a manhole.
[SPEAKER_04]: They turn from cartoon.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I had these huge trousers on, look like a sofa.
[SPEAKER_04]: I had great big curly shoes on.
[SPEAKER_04]: and I had this big, billowing shirt with a huge medallion at the size of a dustbin lid with a nembla monitor.
[SPEAKER_04]: I had a funny point at a huge wig and I was walking down the street with the AED was taking me to this set.
[SPEAKER_04]: And an English couple saw me walking towards with all this gear and said, I want to, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_04]: You want all of a day?
[SPEAKER_04]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[SPEAKER_04]: Any other tune it's you are, put these trousers on and I come straight to New York.
[SPEAKER_04]: True story, I'm by the way, I've got something else to tell you.
[SPEAKER_04]: I am Banksy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was going to refute that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we'll need you guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, Banksy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Try and refute it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Timothy, it is an absolutely beautiful, beautiful film in Mrs. Larry and son with the gorgeous Vanessa Regret, you both must have had some lovely moments together.
[SPEAKER_04]: Vanessa, she was 81 on when we made that.
[SPEAKER_04]: She comes at work with all her passions, she did when she was a young actress.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, which can be challenging, she wants to do it on her own terms, she's got idea, she comes of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: We were chiseling it out this thing, this relationship, a lot of really sad films.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have quite a lot of laughs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, I've had some of the most miserable times in my life on comedies and some of the biggest laughs on tragedy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, I did a film once.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to hear what the name was.
[SPEAKER_04]: God, it was a misery from beginning to end.
[SPEAKER_04]: It turned out to be one of the biggest comedy hits of the year, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's funny, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mrs. Larry and son are starring the wonderful Timothy's ball.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for coming into see us.
[SPEAKER_04]: Pleasure, real pleasure to talk to you.
[SPEAKER_05]: What a lovely conversation with Timothy Spore.
[SPEAKER_05]: I still class out as one of my favorite moments, and favorite memories of him coming into the studio.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just a delightful person.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know he's some of the great actor too, but I'm going to have to watch getting square again.
[SPEAKER_00]: And spit off spit with everyone.
[SPEAKER_07]: Some people have slagged spit off, but not me.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that is another wrap for our show.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you want to get in contact with us, the LGM show at gmail.com is where you get through the LGM show at gmail.com next week.
[SPEAKER_00]: I spend all of the minute replying to all those people.
[SPEAKER_05]: The two people will leave one of them as your mother.
[SPEAKER_05]: Next week, what a great lineup we have for you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Leo, Sayer, and Tim Finn.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Leo, he's now an Australian, and he's still touring around the place.
[SPEAKER_00]: Still got an incredible voice.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was a lot of fun when he'd come in the studio and signed everything.
[SPEAKER_07]: Just vibrant, vibrant, man.
[SPEAKER_07]: the birthday wheel still has your signature on the back of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: He was severs signing chairs, you signing anything, anyone got in the road, you get signed by Leo Sayer.
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, join us for those.
[SPEAKER_07]: It wasn't where the right deck look deck look hard.
[SPEAKER_07]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_07]: The deck look hard.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, deck look hard.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's been at the dentist.
[SPEAKER_07]: I can't speed.
[SPEAKER_07]: And you can see some of the things he saw in.
[SPEAKER_07]: Why did they put the spit gun on my microphone?
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, kind of that little bib they put around your neck.
[SPEAKER_00]: You should lift it on.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll be the first time I've dribbled on radio.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, we'll have a really great week.
[SPEAKER_05]: We will see you in a week's time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Lost you have a last word to see us out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love this one from Grapture Marks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.
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