[SPEAKER_02]: Consequence Podcast Network
[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, iconic army, have you guys been watching Stranger Things because it is literally all Kila and I can think about and talk about like even just going into recording this episode, we had to like cut ourselves off.
[SPEAKER_00]: because we're just like kept talking about theories.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a while that we're at the end of this, like really long television series that was been going on since 2016.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now here it is coming to a close.
[SPEAKER_00]: So in between like RMs, we've earth lives and the dance practice, Instagram content, we've been getting, we both have just been so consumed by
[SPEAKER_00]: Stranger Things as well and just all of the theories that are playing out right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's seriously when she says it's all the weekend, think about and talk about.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's sending each other a million theories on TikTok and each of our phone conversations in the past week have devolved into just talking about Stranger Things theories.
[SPEAKER_01]: So although BTS are giving us, you know, some of that content, like Bethany said, RM's live and some of those, like, behind the scenes of the dance practices on Instagram have been amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're just really all good content there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say just before going into recorded, like, I had the realization of,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like we've been having Stranger Things since 2016.
[SPEAKER_00]: I probably got into Stranger Things probably around 2017, which is when I got into BTS.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like I've been a fan of Stranger Things and a fan of BTS, like simultaneously through all this time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think same for me too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not immediately watch it when it came out because I was scared guys I was I thought it was like a super scary show everything I was seen about it online and I'm really not like a scary movie horror person like
[SPEAKER_01]: I won't be able to sleep, I'll think that something is like in my closet, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I put it off for a while, but then I think when season 2 came out, I was just hearing so much about it that I was like, okay, I've got to dive in and catch up.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that must have been also around the same time in 2017.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it is wild to think that like we've been fans of the show as long as we've been fans of BTS too.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we decided to get a little creative with this episode and do a like Stranger Things BTS crossover.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get into it here in just a second.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that this is kind of niche, but I know it's not too niche because I have seen many Stranger Things edits with BTS music over them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I know that there's other armies out there who would enjoy this content too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so stick around for us to get into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back, where you're hosts, I'm Kayla.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm Bethany and the sustaining BTS.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're favorite informative, fan-girl podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, today we're going to hang out for about an hour and we are doing a like, Stranger Things BTS crossover.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what we're going to be doing in this episode is, well first, we're going to talk about RNs.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were alive because there was a lot of really important information that he went over and lots of discussion.
[SPEAKER_00]: There were tons of news articles about his live.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we just kind of want to,
[SPEAKER_00]: set the The live straight here, yes, because there was a lot that got blown out of proportion.
[SPEAKER_00]: But after that, we are going to pair of all of the BTS members with Stranger Things characters, like who kind of coincides, like if we were casting a BTS member as one of the Stranger Things characters.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who would be who?
[SPEAKER_00]: who would be who super fun and then we're also going to go through some really iconic stranger things like movie scenes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like those really iconic scenes that everyone knows from this from stranger things over the years and what we what music we would play with BTS's music like what would we play over it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we know the tougher others have done an amazing job scoring this show and part of what makes the show so good is the music that builds and you know brings the emotion in certain scenes.
[SPEAKER_01]: But thinking about how BTS could cross over with strings or things were like there are songs that fit these moments.
[SPEAKER_01]: So really excited to talk about that too.
[SPEAKER_01]: right exactly that was that was the concept um before we get to far into today's episode we just want to say thank so much iconics for being here and for all of your support and if you'd like to support us a little bit extra you could consider joining us on patreon at patreon.com slash stanianbts
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, thank you for being here for all of your support and of course for listening.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's get down to business and talk about RM's reverse life that he just did on December 6th because like Bethany said, there was a lot of talk about this online and news articles in social media and one of the main things that we noticed when these
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, news and media pick it up is how misconstrued they take his words.
[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the big headlines is that RM considered disbandment multiple times, blah, blah, blah, which of course we already know that that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like back in 2018 they talked about that when they were accepting their mama award that they considered that earlier in the year and they were so glad that they didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: So
[SPEAKER_01]: we just want to talk about how he spoke about it and share his quotes.
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, quote, there have been many situations over the years that have could have led to the team stopping.
[SPEAKER_01]: You may know some of them, there have been many, so I'm sincerely grateful that we are all still doing this together.
[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, this really reads as, hey, we know that it's been hard, like just being honest, you all should know this by now.
[SPEAKER_01]: but like, I'm so glad that we're still going.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so glad that we didn't disband.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that that's the part that a lot of outlets were leaving out.
[SPEAKER_01]: He kind of continued on.
[SPEAKER_01]: He talked about some of the reasons why they considered disband meant like personal struggles and flaws and honestly a lot of the public scrutiny that him and others face.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he mused, is it better to disband?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it better to just stop?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've thought about that tens of thousands of times, but we continue because we really love one another and because of all of our love and respect for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which again, like that's the part that's like being left out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is like, they're not putting that in the article.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, of course they consider it like they're only human, you know, everybody considers all of their different options, but, you know, for him to reaffirm, we love doing this, we love each other and we love making music for army.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we still do what we do.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and I appreciate this honesty because it makes me feel more connected to him that he feels that he can be honest and open with us about their personal struggles and that this was very much a real situation, multiple times for them, where they considered these because of just the hardships that they had gone through.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I just have to emphasize that he is so grateful that they're still together and that of course they're still together because they love each other so much and they love Army and respect Army.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the right route to go no matter how hard it gets.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's the point he was getting on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he also talks about how he feels that his role has changed.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's always been the leader, but now that everyone is kind of grown up, he doesn't feel the need to continue to lead everyone in the way that he had been up to this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that he feels this way, every member should be able to have their own control and their own autonomy within the group.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he said, quote, I can no longer represent the team as I am one
[SPEAKER_00]: But now each member is an individual.
[SPEAKER_00]: Each of us has our own boundaries, our own lifestyles, our own tendencies and styles.
[SPEAKER_00]: So me going to the company and saying we need to do this for the members or me telling the members what to do, that doesn't really apply anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I just feel that this is, this just makes sense, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's evolving as a leader just as they are evolving as a group.
[SPEAKER_00]: Love that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all 30 years old, like they don't need just one member to be their figurehead and their soul spokesperson, especially because they all have stock in the company.
[SPEAKER_01]: They all have had their own individual music come out and I feel like each of them individually have their own voices and say of how they want things to go and they should be able to put that in instead of just all of that weight being on his shoulders.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is just a perfect representation
[SPEAKER_00]: a excellent leader that he sees this, recognizes this and adjusts to what their needs are.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, he talked also to about some frustrations with the comments, asking for other members to come during his reverse live or like asking about other members with their up to if they can join the live with him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love and appreciate his honesty so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: He talks about how he feels.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little hurtful when Army is asking for other members that he's there for us to talk with him and not simply talk about the other members or expecting another member to join the live.
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, quote, everyone, when I do a personal live, coming in just to look for other members is, yeah, it is not as though I'm intentionally preventing them from appearing, I would like you to refrain from doing that coming into my life specifically to ask about other members feels hurtful.
[SPEAKER_00]: they all have their own phones too if they want to go live, they will do it themselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you can understand that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love that he's sticking up for himself here and being honest about how this comments make him feel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that one of the big themes about this live and a lot of his lives lately is how vulnerable he's been and I think he's shedding even more of that kind of mask that you have to put on as someone in his position.
[SPEAKER_01]: just to be more honest and just to kind of let go of the fear of what that's going to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, then, you know, it leads to a bunch of media outlets and sensationalizing about, you know, alive, but at the same time, that's worth it for him to be able to really speak his mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he did it in a really valid and respectful and understanding of way of being like, hey, like, it is hurtful to be like, where's Jungkook, where's Taehyung?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's I'm cute.
[SPEAKER_00]: Use it's said RM is live.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, you checked our lives, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you grateful that like one of the biggest artists in the world is doing a live stream and like reading and responding to your comments?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, something else that he did in the live that I really appreciate is his gratitude that he had for everyone waiting for their comeback.
[SPEAKER_01]: He shared some disappointment and not being able to come back sooner, but also was encouraging Army to trust the process.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's something Bethany and I, like, we've commented on, we've been, like, BTS aren't doing anything right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's nothing that we can personally, we feel like we can make content about.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we can make a podcast about, because things are just not being released.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we know that they're working very hard right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we know why there's not things coming out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're literally in the middle of album creation, photo book, design, music videos.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was just, yeah, RM was literally doing a video shoot and then came on to live right after.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he was probably filming a music video or like a VCR or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he said, I have like my dad and his dad and his dad and so he said, quote, even people around me have been asking why we did nothing in the second half of 2025.
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't want to be an active either.
[SPEAKER_01]: Personally, I wanted to do a lot after my discharge, but there were things that I could not share, which to both Bethany and I, this hinted out like NDA.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's doing stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing stuff that they can't talk about yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there were reasons why we decided to not do activities for the year end or in the second half of the year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I cannot share those reasons because I do not have the right to.
[SPEAKER_01]: again, like NDA.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like their working on stuff, they have some sort of contract deal where they can't spill the beans on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't feel like they've been inactive.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been posting on socials.
[SPEAKER_01]: They went to the fashion shows.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been on live as much as they can.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think all while it's like essentially starting from scratch making an album.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking about this earlier.
[SPEAKER_01]: Back in, you know, 2018, 2019, they had albums in the pocket.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were finishing one beginning immediate work on another.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been in the military for two years.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have not been able to work on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They need the time here to like get back into their rhythm and their groove and like make it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it can't be being made right after the previous one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So even knowing this, even knowing that this is their process, he still expressed concerns about maybe army not coming back or that comeback may not be what army is expecting just because
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not until next year, we've waited so long.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says that he's deeply apologetic and truly, deeply sorry to have kept us waiting so long.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is nothing more that they could have done at the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, we had our reasons and in order to release something that we are truly satisfied with, we cannot take our comeback lightly.
[SPEAKER_01]: You all know the scale of what we do.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is so much we have to consider.
[SPEAKER_01]: I fucking love that.
[SPEAKER_01]: like I have chills like reading that just being like we can't take this lightly you know the scale of what we do like you guys know how fucking incredible this come back and every aspect is going to be sorry that it's taken so long but like please be patient because it's going to take time yeah yeah it can't be rushed we don't want it to be rushed no
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the one thing we said when they were leaving the military, we don't want it to be rushed, we want them to take their time and like truly make something magnificent.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, he's apologizing for something that, of course, I feel like he has, he feels pressure from the fans of like bringing something to us.
[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, like, it's going to be so worth it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the payoff is going to be amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel that a lot of armies can understand where he's coming from, and he really doesn't need to apologize, but we're grateful for him just being very honest with his india is how honest he can be about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: He also said that he was talking about how he still feels strongly about the love for their group and their mutual desire to continue BTS.
[SPEAKER_00]: This kind of goes along with what we were saying earlier where he talked a little bit about disbandment, but he went into further detail on just the love.
[SPEAKER_00]: of the group right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, today, while filming together again, I was very tired at first and just sitting still.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then the music started, hoping the others were making it fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: We made eye contact and I thought, yes, we are still us.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I just love the imagery of that, seeing all of them together, they're tired and then they start goofing around and they are just grateful to be there.
[SPEAKER_00]: At first, he said that he was practicing alone and then when the members all came and they started practicing together that just like dancing together.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though he doesn't feel like he's very good at dancing, it's just so fun playing around on stage.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a lot of fun with all of his members and I just loved hearing him do it on all of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: his members and just being so grateful to be a part of this group.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it really evokes a lot of visuals of, you know, behind the scenes content that we've seen from them over the years.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it makes me excited that they still have this bond and this connection and, in fact, it's probably even deeper and they probably feel even more grateful for it since their time apart that they're able to kind of come back home together.
[SPEAKER_01]: Continue to make like amazing fun chemistry and just have a great time and like not only make really cool music videos or whatever it was that they're, you know, doing but have a great time doing it Like I think above all like yes, we want to really enjoy their music, but we want them to be happy We want them to be fulfilled and so to hear that this album creation process is really fulfilling for him and that he can feel
[SPEAKER_01]: that mutual desire between him and the members and just like and that the chemistry between him is still there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like that makes me so happy and makes me happy too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love him.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm super grateful for this life from him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad the Bethany, you brought up that you really wanted to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm glad that we all are.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like RM's lives are always going to talk about him.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're just the most meaningful in terms of the discussion of the group and what they're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just love hearing RM's thoughts, of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so let's get into this super fun creative episode, but I'm dying of the like, I mean, I love talking about our lives, but little bit of a top change.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what this core of this episode is, which is this pairing that we're going to do here.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we are going to match up, stranger thing, things characters with BTS members.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so Kayla and I, we made this list together.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've really thought about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So be curious to hear what you guys think and definitely leave
[SPEAKER_00]: Who you would match up with each character in Stranger Things with which BTS members?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's start off with Will Buyers because, hello, he's an icon.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is the center of the season five.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, spoilers.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll say it right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, if you haven't watched all of volume one of season five, like there's gonna be spoilers, like yeah, there's just no way around it So catch up and then come back then come back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah All right, so Will buyers Kayla you and I pretty much agreed right away that Jim and is the Will buyers he's gotta be Jim and who else yes
[SPEAKER_00]: It's perfect.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel that will is this much like more timid character.
[SPEAKER_00]: And not that Jimin is timid, but Jimin is a little bit more like less out there for some of the members.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like I feel like he has that more koi and mischievous, you know, just cute, chimes in every now and then.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not a real loud member.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I really see them both having this more like
[SPEAKER_00]: being protected, and that's so much, you know, the very overt, like, super strong personality, definitely, if that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like the not the super extroverted.
[SPEAKER_01]: At the same time, thinking about Will Buyer's character arc from, like season 1 to,
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you know, he was at some points.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like very much ostracized from society, coming back in season two as like zombie boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has really struggled with like, you know, accepting himself and his sexuality and
[SPEAKER_01]: feeling like he's accepted by his friends and others and not only accepted by others, but like feeling powerful within himself because for so long he's been haunted by the mind-flayer and Vekna.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's felt weak, he's felt possessed and controlled but not in control himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and so when we were thinking about who's bull buyers, Jim and mirrored that with us too, because we've seen Jim and's journey from debut until now, um, he's been a member who's outwardly expressed his struggles with insecurity.
[SPEAKER_01]: And accepting himself, whether that's like his voice or his personal style or you know, like how he wants to present himself and ultimately like I mean as he gets Bethany you earlier said like the wings era is where Jim and really started to like come out and flourish and that's when I mean that's when I became a Jim and Stan like because you're like holy fuck you know I feel like him as that person Jim and becoming and claiming like who he is and confident in and
[SPEAKER_01]: Accepting that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that that's like both of their like major arcs that we've seen in the past 10 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: One more thing, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: The duality.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like all of these seasons will have been so cute and like, you know, sweet.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I see that in German, but then you volume one final episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, season five, volume one, the final episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Jim and has that too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Jim and has that like super he can be super cute But then like he just snaps into like the super hot the duality.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, okay So do you want to get into Mike Wheeler?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes
[SPEAKER_01]: All righty, so Mike is a character who, you know, he's the leader of the party of the Dungeon and Dragons party.
[SPEAKER_01]: He also is like not one of the, I would say like four front biggest personality characters either, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is really good about checking in on his friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to make sure everybody's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: He tries to take care of everyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he feels a lot of that kind of weight as like their leader.
[SPEAKER_01]: of their party to kind of, you know, make sure that everyone is taking care of.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so for this role, we had to assign non-June.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is just, I think in similar ways, they have similar leadership styles, where they're kind of leading from behind.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not, you know, directing everybody saying, you go do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes they do, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes Mike Wheeler,
[SPEAKER_01]: takes the bull by the horns he says.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what we're going to do, but most of the time, no, it's collaborative and he opens it up to that and I feel like that's very much Rm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They both have similar leadership styles.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's my main takeaway here that you were talking about where they both lead from behind.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not like leading up in front, like follow my orders kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also really love how Mike Wheeler, when the group is all together, he's so good at doing a pep talk and really hyping up everyone, and Namjoon does the exact same thing, like I can think of so many behind the scenes where,
[SPEAKER_00]: the members are all about to go out into stage and nom june addresses that maybe they were fighting earlier and you know to to focus and to look at what's ahead here and he's just so good at that he coaches army through that too and how they both are just really great leaders and being able to coach their friends and their groups yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: I also love, I mean, Stranger Things does such a great job with writing and showing all the nuances with an character, and Mike is not a, you know, perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's flawed.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't the best to Ellen season three with relationships and, you know, at some points.
[SPEAKER_01]: He kind of made Will feel a little bit brushed off or like not seen as a friend and,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know he just can be a little bit people talk about like Mike being clueless about like some things that are going on a little bit oblivious to like the deeper emotions at play and I don't think RM is oblivious to emotions at all I think he's like incredibly like introspective but a lot of that introspection is with him and maybe not always with like the whole group dynamic.
[SPEAKER_01]: and although he's a great listener and he's able to communicate with everybody, I think that he himself will humbly say, like, I have many flaws.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a lot of things that I want to work on.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that him and Mike align in that way too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go to Lucas and Claire next.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Lucas and Claire is he's such a wonderful character and I think he has so many different dynamics to him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I find that his character arc really that we kind of see is that he is this nerd who loves playing Dungeons and Dragons and has like a nerdy group of friends.
[SPEAKER_00]: but then you also see him fall into this popular crowd where he's so badly wants to be accepted but at the same time he's losing the people who he truly feels like comfortable and loved and he is very much into basketball.
[SPEAKER_00]: He also within the group like in terms of getting to the upside down and helping El and all of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He tends to be
[SPEAKER_00]: a little bit like he was super skeptical of L at first like he's not quick to trust.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a little bit more skeptical.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not so much more as like feeling he's more intellect and so whenever all becomes a part of their party like he it takes a while to gain trust and also when they're just immediately start trusting L he's like I'm not going to do that and I'm going to go and pursue this on my own and he's very smart and how he does.
[SPEAKER_00]: Try to like continue to to solve the mystery even without the support of his friends and I feel like this like skepticism and the like ability to go solo if he needs to go solo, you know, and do his own thing It very much gives me new and key.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and also the basketball parallel you can't over that
[SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like you, like, is not trustworthy like right away.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's not like he immediately trusts someone who comes into his life.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he can be a little bit more, it takes time, you have to prove yourself a little bit, like, more behind the scenes and just, like, words out in front.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's all about action.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that, like, what you said about Lucas and his kind of story arc where he became popular, he
[SPEAKER_01]: went from like the nerd to the jock and he's trying to balance like fitting in and kind of being in those circles and still like being friends with his like childhood D&D friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's making me think of Yungi and like his, you know, like you brought up how he played basketball too and at one point he had to choose and his youth between music and basketball.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also, it's kind of make me think of how Montagueimgi has talked about his own personal greed and ambition and how sometimes that can get in the way of himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what he really wants and how much he struggles with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of thinking, like, Lucas' ambition to be a popular mixed with Yungi's ambition to be popular that can kind of be unsatiable, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say the one thing that I think Lucas has that Yungi doesn't have is like Lucas is so funny like rewatching I'm rewatching all of it all of the series right now and I know you're almost done rewatching season four
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's so hilarious, like, I think he's unintentionally hilarious, like just as a character, like he's not the one spitting one liners or whatever, but like some of his reactions to me are so funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't really see that from you and Gabe, but I do think that everything else is like such a good thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so too.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Dustin Henderson.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was kind of a tough one because we really couldn't think of a BTS member that fully aligns with Dustin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dustin in the group is just like, he's like so solid throughout.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I feel like he doesn't really have that many flaws.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's just like a solid friend solid character.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good character shows up for people shows up for people knows what's going on very very smart But also he is so techy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is like their tech guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He knows how to get all of the walkie talkie is in the radio signals and he's just really smart And so we were thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, you know what Kayla?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the pedog like
[SPEAKER_00]: like Piedog is so steady within BTS's dysgography.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's always been there, writer died, like he will always be a part of BTS's music.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he also just thinking like the production side of the music too.
[SPEAKER_00]: The more behind the scenes, like he's not out there doing a lot of the fighting, but he's doing a lot of the background work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, to make sure that the planning and strategizing so that things go accordingly and that's totally the producer's role Right, they're both the ones that make things work for the whole team.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is one of my most favorite like matchups here I think this is so perfect and hilarious like when you said pedog because I didn't know where you were taking it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like I gulfed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that that was hilarious Yeah, perfect
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, 100% to everything that you just said.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about Max Mayfield, Max made her debut in season two of Stranger Things.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she is like the super self-assured, extroverted, feminist, kind of badass that, you know, she just knows who she is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's not going to let anyone give her shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she also has, as we saw in like the running up the whole scene, she has a big connection to music.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that, you know, that song and brought her back or was, you know, calling her back.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for me, because of that musical connection, but also because of like her extroverted attitude and just kind of how self-assured and confident she is, Jay Hope, in me, Jay Hope.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think to me, like the music connection, music is Jay Hope's life, but also he is that super confident member, like as he should be, you know, so he's self-assured.
[SPEAKER_01]: Has his own style, his own path, like knows what he brings to the table and how he wants to do it and I think Max is the same exact way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree completely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just to add off of that to in season three, Max really gets to go shopping with Elle to like express themselves a little bit more and be a little bit more girly and
[SPEAKER_00]: really Max's fashion is very bright and colorful and it just matches perfectly with Jay Hope too like their sense of style as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, totally.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so let's talk about 11.
[SPEAKER_00]: 11 is, I mean, one of the center core main characters of the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's the one with superpowers.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's the one who saves the day continuously.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's the one who shows up when they're in the most.
[SPEAKER_00]: Trouble and they have no way out and she saves them all like she continuously does this She's just so talented.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's so strong and who she is she's a badass and season five We really see her like she's like physically getting fit and like timing herself and she's competitive and against herself
[SPEAKER_00]: And we couldn't help but to see that this is perfectly aligning with Jungkook.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jungkook is the golden machnae, he can do it all, he can wrap, he can sing, he can dance, everything he touches turns to gold and I just feel that it's perfect for him in 11, like they really align in that way that they just are so, so strong and so talented in what they do.
[SPEAKER_01]: a thousand percent like this could be no one else besides Jungkook.
[SPEAKER_01]: For all of those reasons, he just, he is that core, he, you know, he makes so many performances.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's also super competitive and will push himself to any limit in order to achieve what he wants to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also like I particularly love the confidence that 11 has in season 5 in herself and her abilities.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's very Jungkook as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: She knows her role.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he does too, honestly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about Steve the hair, Harrington.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of my, I think so many people's favorite characters in the whole show.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard not, he's so easy to love.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And something that we were just talking about, I just have to mention it before we were recording is that we saw Hobi Palooza 2022 was the same time that we saw Joe Kiri who plays Steve Harrington perform.
[SPEAKER_01]: He performed under the moniker, Joe DJO, at L'Oplusa that year, made the song end of beginning for that set.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the first time he ever performed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when I became a fan of his music.
[SPEAKER_01]: And to this day, he's one of my favorite musicians.
[SPEAKER_01]: When he drops an album, I love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was, you know, in my unwrapped this year was a lot of his songs from his album that came out earlier this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so for me, it's just like every time I go back and watch stranger things, every scene I see him in, I'm like, hey, that's one of my favorite musicians.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just so cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love his music.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that he's such a phenomenal actor and this beloved character as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just so serendipitous, too, that you discovered him through a BTS concert.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: J-Hope, Toby Palooza.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, where they're only for J-Hope, and then I saw him on the list, and I was like, wait, isn't that that guy from Stranger Things?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm kind of interested in seeing what kind of music he makes, like, that seems so random.
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember putting on my Instagram story, like zooming in on him in a video and being like, Steve, question for him, is that you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, like just so I think so cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now we're talking about like BTS cross, you know, we're with stranger things and for us it already did in 2022 the parallels have been there this whole time we're all in the upside down like we're in a warm whole right now like whatever warm whole time laps whatever time travel is happening in season five so
[SPEAKER_01]: Steve Harrington, beloved character.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is hilarious, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: He brings a lot of comic relief, but he is also so genuine.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the ultimate gentleman.
[SPEAKER_01]: He cares after all of the younger members, the core, you know, D&D party, so much like an older brother, who else could this be except for Kim Saption?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, mind you Steve Harrington, Steve the Harrington is very attractive and yes, he knows it too.
[SPEAKER_01]: The hottest man in Hawkins, and I think that Jin also knows that about himself, Worldwide Handsome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jin is also super, super chivalrous.
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw a lot in like Keen's bizarre B&B, how he acted to all of the guests and to his co-host.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, seeing that side of him was beautiful.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is the member, the oldest brother who has doded on, looked after taking care of every single one of the other BTS members.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all of their time together.
[SPEAKER_00]: And has put up with all of the mock nays shit too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: All of them teasing at him and him getting all like, oh my god, you know, breaking out of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the parallel to Steve is like so perfect.
[SPEAKER_00]: It really, like I think of all of the pairings that we've made, this has to be the most spot on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's ridiculous, yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just, he's perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: Steve is perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: They go together.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the one.
[SPEAKER_00]: They both, the eldest, looking after the younger is, they're both easily provoked.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're both hilarious.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's a percent.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Nancy Wheeler, this was a little difficult for us, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nancy Wheeler is a pretty special character in Stranger Things.
[SPEAKER_00]: We know that she is a total badass.
[SPEAKER_00]: She is a woman who doesn't want to live by typical female stereotypes and expectations, societal expectations.
[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't want to be like,
[SPEAKER_00]: her mom and dad.
[SPEAKER_00]: She really wants to break away.
[SPEAKER_00]: She wants to be a career woman.
[SPEAKER_00]: She wants, she doesn't need a man to protect her.
[SPEAKER_00]: She can protect herself.
[SPEAKER_00]: Girls knows how to shoot a gun.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the two men that are trailing behind her.
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole series she's like rolling her eyes out.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like keep up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But she is very very focused on her journalism career as like a reporter.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's very focused on solving the what's happening in the upside down and how to put an end to this.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's very smart.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's very conniving.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, yeah, she's amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we thought that maybe this is
[SPEAKER_00]: because he kind of like, he kind of, yes, the hitmaker, he goes outside of the norm, he goes the direction he felt, he needed to go to really make a successful K-pop group.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, he just stuck true to who he is, he's very much a career man, very smart,
[SPEAKER_00]: his cared for his artists and understood that the artists are there to create their own music and he supported that and what they wanted to talk about and Nancy as a reporter also like like interviewing Eddie's uncle like she was very much wanting to hear his side of the story and not making any kind of assumptions.
[SPEAKER_00]: So
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I just felt like this was maybe one of the best pairings that we could do to see and not perfect.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it works.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's such a larger than life character.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like I think someone to really respect and look up to as a role, which is another reason why I think Bang PD suits it because he also like within the industry is one of those people.
[SPEAKER_01]: They both have incredible ideas.
[SPEAKER_01]: They know how to lead.
[SPEAKER_00]: They depend of all.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're both they're both dependable and yeah, I mean like Nancy walk them down the wheeler It's hard to come up with somebody who is as an incredible as she is, but bang PD I think we we both agree deserves the spot there So that brings us to Jonathan Byers and Honestly guys, we didn't assign him anyone and now it's because like low-key we hate Jonathan and Like hate is a strong word because he's not a favorite
[SPEAKER_01]: He's on our favorite.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has struggles of his own, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been perentified by his mom a young age made to be basically, you know, his brothers keeper, especially after Will comes back.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's gone through a lot of his own trauma and like we can feel for him in that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: But also like, he's had a lot of creepy times.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of like,
[SPEAKER_01]: like puppy dog following after Nancy were like Nancy is clearly too good for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He like, and he's in front of a lost.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, like I just, and you know, and he's carrying her on this ring in season five for Nancy that's like, where did this come from like in what world is right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like when you should be proposing to her, like you guys didn't even, you weren't even on good terms necessarily in season four, like what's going on?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just, I don't, we didn't feel like we could assign anyone to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we felt like it would, you know, respect for Jonathan and what he's gone through, but, you know, we hope that it's him and next to you who dies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he has to, like...
[SPEAKER_01]: Steve dies.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be so upside.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's going to be really upset if Steve dies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that brings us to Hopper.
[SPEAKER_01]: What an iconic character.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, police man of the town investigative, but also like really evolves from just like, you know, the small
[SPEAKER_01]: Taking it upon himself to protect, take care, nurture, but like be a father to L, but also make sure that they can, you know, save Hawkins from the upside down in Vekna and everything that's going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's really taking a lot of this on his shoulders.
[SPEAKER_01]: And for this, we were thinking BTS's bodyguards.
[SPEAKER_01]: The people that protect them when they go out and look after them and make sure that shit is held down for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: We also, if there's any OG Army here that no manager's say Jen used to work really closely with all of BTS being their personal manager for their group, not quite a bodyguard form by like a bodyguard role, but just managing them in all of their spaces
[SPEAKER_01]: They were where they needed to be safely with everything that they needed to get the job done.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is very much hopper as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it was, it was meant that these, these two were paired up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the bodyguard, the protector.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, we also accidentally skipped past Robin.
[SPEAKER_00]: We gotta talk about Robin.
[SPEAKER_01]: We gotta talk about Robin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so Robin is such a funny character.
[SPEAKER_00]: Talk about also like comic relief.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's for sure, comic relief, but she's also like really easily befriends everyone, like everyone just sends up becoming friends with her pretty quickly, even Nancy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she just has a natural charisma to her.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's also super off the wall.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think she talks about herself, maybe being a little bit on the spectrum.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she talks about herself, maybe being a little like ADHD, ADD, can't focus.
[SPEAKER_00]: How her parents even are like, can't get her to shut up that she talks so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's just this eccentric personality.
[SPEAKER_00]: And who else and BTS would you describe as eccentric other than Kim Tae-young?
[SPEAKER_00]: The mercy centric he people have talked about him being like an alien way back in the days like he just Says and does weird stuff and he's always accepted himself pretty much from the very beginning like he
[SPEAKER_00]: never tried to conceal just how much of an odd ball he is.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's always been like fully about it, fully accepting, and that's for sure what you get with my Hawks character too, just very much self-acceptance.
[SPEAKER_00]: We see her now here in season five where she's kind of walking well through some self-acceptance, and I also love just
[SPEAKER_00]: that pairing of well and Robin, and then also seeing like Tae-young and Jimin are so so close, and like Tae-young really also being such a solid friend and guiding Jimin too, um, in his self-acceptance journey, and so, it's just a perfect pairing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the Will Robin, Jimin Tae-young connection.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that is so cute and so perfect.
[SPEAKER_00]: So last character we're going to talk about is Joyce Bier's and so Joyce is obviously the mother of well she's very very protective but not only protective of her well but she's kind of become the mother role for
[SPEAKER_00]: all of the the kids in this group because she's the one who's actually involved in like the upside down and knows about it and is actively fighting against Vekna with all of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so she's just kind of a mother figure trustworthy, again, dependable, but like, like a rock.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's not to all of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: She is the rock, but like she has that like really caring nature and like a approachable Yeah, in that way.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we assigned Sun Sun Duke, the choreographer of BTS to Joyce Bier is because
[SPEAKER_00]: We feel like, you know, again, he's always been there from the very early days training in the choreography room, dance practice, all of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He also clearly described him as having a very, like, friendly face, like a very nice face, which is very much what Joy Spires is, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah he has kind eyes and I feel like that makes him approachable and he seems like nurturing and we've seen how he's worked with the members behind the scenes and you know he might be giving them corrections and feedback but he's not like critical, you know never you know in that way where it can come off negative and I think
[SPEAKER_01]: Joyce is the same way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like she is always going to try to find the positive and each one of those kids and put that spin on it too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I feel like for each of these people, like they, you know, the members of BTS and also these this group of kids could come to them with any problem or whatever they need.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I definitely say the connection.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that is our BTS as the cast of Stranger Things and who we would cast them and like Bethany said, you guys should let us know in the Spotify comments who you would have casted.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've heard of all of our reasons and we're interested to know yours as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is so fun, so definitely tell us what you think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we still want to talk about some of our favorite stranger things, the scenes and how we would score them with BTS songs.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to try to go back to like season one and kind of progress through some iconic scenes throughout the season.
[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the first ones that we're thinking about is will trapped in the upside down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hunkered down in castle buyers.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's scared.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's alone.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's cold.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like on the brink of death because the upside on his toxic And for this one I was thinking blue and gray just the somber feeling of that song the hopelessness I think totally narrates the the feelings that we want to feel in that moment
[SPEAKER_00]: The visual of blue and gray, like that is literally the upside down, right, is completely blue and gray, like you just see like the gray, like floaters all in the air, yeah, very much alone and away from all of his friends.
[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, in season one, Joyce talking to Will through the various Christmas lights as a funny option would be.
[SPEAKER_01]: come back home the song that BTS made for a show as like a title sequence you must come back home I mean I think that's so fucking hilarious but out of Bethany said that one yesterday and I cracked up but out of like the extreme like chaotic desperation that Joyce was feeling the intense
[SPEAKER_01]: need, I think I need you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also fits this moment as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: The extreme desperation.
[SPEAKER_00]: She is so desperate to reach him.
[SPEAKER_00]: She feels like she's going crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need you absolutely matches that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so another scene that we both really love is when Nancy Jonathan and Steve Booby-Tramp and like the house and find off a demo Gorgon within the buyer's house.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is such a bad ass scene because Jonathan and Nancy have gone above and beyond to like get all of the equipment to be able to like they have like a
[SPEAKER_00]: Bear call and they have gasoline that they're ready like ignite everything on fire They've gone all out and it's such a badass moment the perfect song to score this scene would be Like it's just so Badass also ugly makes me just think of fighting and the lighten off this demigor again and a guy think of how The rap line came out like with like their boxing gloves
[SPEAKER_01]: totally.
[SPEAKER_01]: Moving on, I think that like will returning to our returning home and then going back to school in season two, being called zombie boy, and also kind of over all of the seasons, struggling to accept.
[SPEAKER_01]: his sexuality and like feel proud of himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: We feel like the song's stigma and also lost really fit his storyline when he's going through hard emotions like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Another really iconic scene is the snowball dance, this is where they're all going to this middle school dance and it's like awkward and cute and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you see that some of them are
[SPEAKER_00]: A little heartbroken because they don't end up getting someone that they want to dance with, and get rejected like you see Dustin get rejected a lot, he ends up dancing with Nancy, but we thought love is not over or hold me tight would be perfect for this scene.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very cute nostalgia somewhat hopeful But yes, it was sad.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, mm-hmm another big scene is I think this isn't season three Where Robin and Steve have gotten very close They've been taken by the Russians.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been drugged by the Russians, but they end up escaping But the drug like is still in their system and so they're in the bathroom like throwing up
[SPEAKER_00]: and then they have this heart to heart in the bathroom where Steve is kind of coming out with like feelings for Robin and Robin tells him without being direct.
[SPEAKER_00]: She tells him that like yeah, I'm into girls like I am not into into guys and we felt like trivia love would be fit with this scene because it is a heartfelt conversation.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can see that Steve like immediately accepts that type of love from her that whether they're just friends He's okay with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're close no matter what right he accepts her for who she is for liking girls Like he doesn't even question it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just like oh, I feel like an idiot for not
[SPEAKER_01]: Realizing yeah, yeah, I love Steve in this moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just rolls with a I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, also in season three Billy burning in the sauna What other song could it be besides burn it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah burn it also like that song The anger is insane and so is Billy's and like Billy busts out of it like it's terrifying, you know I think that that song really goes with that
[SPEAKER_01]: Moving on to a little bit later is Billy's self-sacrifice at StarCourt where tragically, you know, his younger step sister Max sees him die right in front of her.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really beautiful and tragic and horrible inside.
[SPEAKER_01]: And for this one, I'm thinking life goes on Yungi's version just because of the symbolism of that moment and how much Billy had gone through that season and kind of where he ended up.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, in the next season, we see the buyer's family and L moving to California to try to get a fresh start away from Hawkins and Moving to California.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're thinking of BTS a song moving on I mean that song just represents hearty the heartache of of leaving what you have behind
[SPEAKER_01]: What you have going ahead and like knowing what you had was great, but also what you have going ahead could be great accepting the change Yeah, and I think for both L and Will the song lonely could also fit their time while they were in California because that's a high-thait how I think they both were feeling Like they were trying to pretend like everything was okay, but really they were just so lonely We're not fitting in didn't want to be there
[SPEAKER_01]: This bridge is into 11 at the roller rink that super iconic scene where Mike is in town.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's trying to show him like I'm so well adjusted.
[SPEAKER_01]: See like I'm having a good time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have all these friends when really all of these girls are just like bullying her.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're so mean to her.
[SPEAKER_01]: She is an outsider.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's not accepted and yeah, she's been lying this whole time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what's really going on?
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: her liest kind of unraveling as Mike is realizing it and so for this one we were thinking saved me and I'm fine because she's trying to act like she's fine she needs to be saved at the same time and Mike is dealing with like facing this head on he really didn't expect it he was super shocked by her like hitting that girl in the face with the
[SPEAKER_01]: roller skate and, you know, just really left that moment super confused and a little bit like horrified about what was going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm still searching.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is really sad.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a hard watch.
[SPEAKER_00]: Another really hard watch.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, my gosh, season four will giving Mike the painting in the car of their D&D party and he's kind of half asked expressing how much he loves Mike, but then just also lies and says that it's 11 who commissioned this painting when a reality will has been painting it for Mike, because he just like loves him and cares about him so much and then yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: him turning away in the car, sobbing right next to Mike and Mike not having any idea that he's sobbing or what he's tried to imply with this painting and his words, it's painful to watch and it just breaks my heart every time but we feel like autumn leaves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also later on in that season, Eddie shredding on the guitar, standing on the upside-down version of his mobile home, vampire bass icon.
[SPEAKER_01]: So more mean, I feel this to me is still like this is one of my favorite scenes in the whole series.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's peak cinema, it's yes, literally.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when he's playing it in the show, he's playing Master of Puppets, which is, I mean, it's just fucking iconic.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we had to think what BTS song is going to like reach this level of just like badass shredding like rocking out at the same time.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be more by J.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hope.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I mean and I'm what I'm not sure that's like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it needed the price.
[SPEAKER_01]: So
[SPEAKER_01]: That's our choice for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We also have to talk about Max's running up that hill scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this was tough because we knew this has to be a really emotionally powerful song.
[SPEAKER_01]: One that has build, one that gives you hope and confidence and like that glimmer of beauty in the midst of like all of this chaos around you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Ash actually was Bethany who suggested Wild Flower by RM, which I think would be perfect for this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect for this moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, standing in my grave, you know, like that is exactly what Max is fighting against when she's running up that hill in the sand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, also the Eugene having a female like powerhouse vocalist along with Kate Bush and running up that hill it just it was fitting it was so fitting Okay, and the answer you Jonathan and Steve burning back now what other song but fire like fire we had to go with that Yes, I have to yes and this trio to be the the three to do it
[SPEAKER_00]: 11 closing the gate mind you 11 closing the gate this happened way back in like season season one or season two So I don't know what it's doing here, but we were trying to know it got on the butt of order when 11 closes the gate She this is when you really first see her see like all her might and her power capability Just like how powerful she is to be able to close it and we thought no Was perfect as a score for this scene because
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's rising against the resistance, you know, like, the government, everything, like, I just picture the BTS no music video and it parallels right perfectly with, like, closing the gate, even them, like, walking down the stairs.
[SPEAKER_00]: It almost looks like the gate towards, like, I was like, down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: We also feel like we are pull it proof, could also.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's at there too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think no a little bit more, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're right about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: The overarching Nancy Jonathan, Steve Love triangle that is driving us crazy in season five.
[SPEAKER_01]: trivia seesaw, trivia seesaw all the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Steve is feeling it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Nancy is feeling it.
[SPEAKER_01]: John is like each one of them could be writing the song.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it really really goes with their vibe right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then for the last movie scene, we're going to talk about the final scene of season 5 episode 4, whatever, volume 1 and volume 1, will getting his powers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just talk about the little montage of him getting that flashback of his friendship with Mike and just all the good memories that he had
[SPEAKER_00]: That flashback could definitely be playing epilogue young forever with all of those memories Like I it's like that actually makes me tear up Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't think too much about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will cry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where are the BTS editors?
[SPEAKER_00]: I need the edit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will saw like
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, literally.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the edit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it would be so beautiful.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll splash back Epilogue Gang forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're both covering our faces thinking about this because it's just like wrecking us like, oh my god, I would just cry forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then of course after this flashback, this flashback is him realizing that the power and control is within him all along and that he can be his own savior.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when he does this, of course, he, you know, rises an arm up, freezes a demigorgan in space as it's lunging towards Mike.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rises another arm up does the same thing for Lucas and the tunnels.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lips his head up does the same thing for Robin out on the field.
[SPEAKER_01]: All these Demogorgans are risen like 10 feet in the air, they're screaming, they're frozen in place, they can't move, and then with one like curl of his fists, he snaps their necks, breaks their bones, and they come crashing to the ground, all during this like his eyes are like covered in this, you know, this white
[SPEAKER_01]: They're rolled back like yes, like he is I mean, he's ultimate super hero experiencing these powers like these psychic abilities and just really claiming his own Demi Gorgon's drop to the ground.
[SPEAKER_01]: He drops to his knees lifts his head eyes go back to normal
[SPEAKER_01]: camera zooms in he looks super hot and then you see a trail of blood coming out of his nose Just like L has always had after she really exerts herself and he wipes it away like so non-chalantly like the fucking coolest You've ever seen everything around him is on fire people are dead all around him.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a literal war zone It's a war zone What other song would be playing besides arson?
[SPEAKER_01]: Arson is all about.
[SPEAKER_01]: I kicked it off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm ending it, which is exactly what will we kicked off this whole season, the whole series.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's fucking ending this shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's burning it all up, fucking go out with a bang.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, if you watch the Arson music video and you watch this last scene here, there's so many parallels.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he actually filmed the arson video in the Maxi.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where it took place.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a little bit of a different episode for us like we've never done such a big crossover before between topics, but like we said we really can't stop talking about stringed your things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully you're on the strings or things train as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: If not, you know you got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: A couple more weeks before Volume 2 of Season 5 comes out, you have time to watch the whole series right now, you could, and you know, we really hope that you guys enjoyed our kind of summation, our assignment of each member of VTS as a Stranger Things character, and then of course, our film scoring of, you know, which songs from VTS we think would.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what other, I mean, what other scenes do you guys really love that you have a VTS song in mind that would be playing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Please share with us.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was such a fun episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just love getting to be creative and have fun with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, same.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was really fun to put together and like, I mean, it just enabled us to be able to continue talking about strange or things.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the theories are endless.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let us know what you guys are thinking about the end of the season, the end of the series as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, let us know all of your thoughts about our choices in this episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: As always, you can find links for all of the things in the description.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for listening and thanks for standing BTS.