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[SPEAKER_07]: Shotsmith Pearson, Jody Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hello, Jody.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hello, Sean.
[SPEAKER_04]: How are you doing today on this wonderful Thursday evening?
[SPEAKER_03]: I am well, how are you?
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, honestly, um,
[SPEAKER_04]: could be better could be worse.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean the good list at least.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know you are too.
[SPEAKER_04]: I try.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am just just to note for those that didn't hear about this on Stephanie show this morning.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jim Ward, the voice deity himself passed away yesterday from early onset Alzheimer's.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was lucky enough to know him.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a little bit too.
[SPEAKER_03]: only 66 years old he was a baby and thank you to Andrea who works with Hal Sparks for posting a picture.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know existed of me with him and Susan Susan Weston Hoffer and I really appreciate that so yeah look good all good people and I
[SPEAKER_04]: I worked with Jim a little bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, I want to get the thanks out of the way.
[SPEAKER_04]: First, thank you guys to everybody who's listening on all of our great radio affiliates.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, maybe you're one of those future people, and we are very glad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Who appreciates intelligent talk about politics and fun and laughing, you know?
[SPEAKER_04]: The news, but not necessarily all dark, but.
[SPEAKER_04]: We are gonna, you know, take a moment actually to talk about Jim a little bit just because I work with Jim.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you and I both sat in the big chair, I guess you call it that Steph's place.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I did it a little bit different.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was not actually at Stephanie's place.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: When I was the managing producer, I was doing it from here in DC.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was also running these deal in Unger Show.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I was responsible for both.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jim, Jim was always interesting to work with, but he, I never worried about him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I could send him whatever, and he'd be like, great, he just did his thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: You never had to worry, a single, well, okay, you had to worry occasionally.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there were times that Stephanie and Chris and Jim all got fired, because of something great that Jim created.
[SPEAKER_04]: But in general, you didn't have to worry that Jim was going to be a problem because Jim would just do his thing and he would be funny, and it would be interesting and it was great.
[SPEAKER_04]: And There early onset Alzheimer's would have been like eight years now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was my age when it came on initially.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just insane in your fifties.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's just
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the first time I actually met him was actually at Flappers in Burbank, I went to go see Hal Sparks, and I didn't know how, and so I said, Lonnie, you want to go, we'd never been to Flappers, you know, the lovely comedy club in Burbank, and so we went, and we were sitting in the back, and I noticed Jim was sitting at a table kind of close to the stage.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you know who Jim was already?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and because they were on television at the point, so I knew what he looked like, and so I saw him.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then once Al was done, I introduced myself to him.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was so sweet and so nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I got, because I, because I already met Stephanie at that point.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so he was really, really sweet to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then once I started going into Stephanie's show, I got to sit next to him for a long time, until he,
[SPEAKER_03]: couldn't go in anymore and so it was it was lovely to be with him on Tuesdays and he always read the newspaper he would read the comics and stuff and it was he was very nice his little handsy on occasion you are not the only person who has said that in life and that's okay it is yeah when she had her last party for him
[SPEAKER_03]: a couple of year nineteen i think that was yeah twenty nineteen twenty asked no it was yeah it was just before covid just hits yeah it was like right before that and so she had a party because we knew that he wasn't doing well but she wanted him to see everybody and when i walked in he knew kind of who i was because i wasn't an older friend of his because that's the thing with that disease it's like if it's a new memory it's harder for them to keep the new memory it's easy for an older memory
[SPEAKER_03]: and I'd only known him maybe, I don't know, four or five years at that point.
[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe six.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it was not, he looked at me and he thought I looked cute, so that helps.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I said, it's Jody goes, oh, hi, and then he realized who I was.
[SPEAKER_04]: Then he remembered.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then he remembered.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, he was a deer and he is definitely missed.
[SPEAKER_04]: My pup Kiwi, Jim Ward, Jill Sobule, and I'm not the only one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was listening this morning to Steph.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, they were going through it, and I've talked to other people I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you lost anybody else this weekend.
[SPEAKER_04]: I stepped out, I lost my stepdad this year, back in March.
[SPEAKER_04]: Lot of losses this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: But there have been a lot of,
[SPEAKER_04]: good things as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's important for us.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've said this before in the other places too.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's important that we focus on, I'm not trying to be all polyanish, but we should focus on the positive.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's so easy for us, especially those of you in the bar here who are on the left and the further left, but even some of you folks who are
[SPEAKER_04]: y'all kind of hang with us and then you get that stupid thing where you're like, well, you know, this sucks and that sucks and that'll be unfestive as you can air your grievance.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's coming up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but most of the time you should refrain from doing that and you should try to focus on the positive because it helps.
[SPEAKER_04]: It really does.
[SPEAKER_04]: Especially this time of year with everything getting dark early and all that,
[SPEAKER_04]: helps you individually, personally, even if you're being selfish, it helps you out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely, which is why I'm glad so many people have been sharing clips of Jim and sharing different things about Jim and all the fun things he did in fun stories about him.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I hope someday, long in the future, when we are going that people share the fun things about us too.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, that's, that's my hope.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sex that he's gone, but we are so glad we were so blessed to have Jim Ward as, you know, one of the key people in in our corner.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so late to you, Jim.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jim, obviously, what have been on saying is good list this year, even if he, you know, did grab the occasional motion.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was, you know, he just, he liked the ladies.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was great with his lovely bride.
[SPEAKER_04]: So yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Even though, God, I've shanikua.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was one of her names.
[SPEAKER_03]: That one of the listeners gave, because she was jealous.
[SPEAKER_04]: with say about hey you know you got me did you was pretty cool so yeah but Jim was on the good list Donald Trump on the bad list always Donnie wants another war and he's not even playing with the wars that he has Jody but I thought he I thought he stopped ate of him
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, actually one of them here, we can jump all the way down to the Foreign Affairs section.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's in the fourth round today.
[SPEAKER_04]: You remember one of them that he's been so proud of, that he says he stopped the war between Thailand and Cambodia, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Thailand and Cambodia are actually intensifying air strikes and artillery attacks against each other.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so, stop the war?
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, also he said he stopped the word between Israel and the Palestinians and we know they're still still fighting there Yeah, so don't he not a peace price.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he gets peace He's a piece.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Joe is right
[SPEAKER_04]: So now we'll start at the top of the news on tap today, which you can get for free at the politicsbar.com.
[SPEAKER_04]: Donald seems to be wondering what we're with Venezuela and he's also trying to pick a little bit of a fight with Mexico, but we'll start with Venezuela and the tanker truck or the tanker truck.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not just a truck, the whole tanker.
[SPEAKER_03]: The whole tanker, not just one truck.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I worked at a naval flagging agency as a PR guy for a year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you do know what
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So ships can be owned.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, ships are owned and then they are flagged.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So by a country they're flagged.
[SPEAKER_04]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_04]: What that means is that you are red your your ship.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, let's say that there is a Jody has a ship.
[SPEAKER_04]: She has a giant ship called the Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's really cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you have to, in order to go out on international waters, you have to have your ship flagged.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: All those little boats we've been killing, by the way, they're blowing up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Little boats like you have in your lakes, they don't need to be flagged.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you have an ocean going vessel, legally it needs to be flagged.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because what that means is,
[SPEAKER_04]: the laws of the whatever nation that it is flagged under, those are the laws that pertain on that ship at that time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if country X has a law against abortion, no abortions can be performed on that ship.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: If country Y has a law that says abortion is legal, then yes, abortions can be performed on that ship.
[SPEAKER_04]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's an over-simplification, but
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a procedure for how to flag the vessel and then where the vessel is owned It's like if you if you look if you get on that ship It's like you're in that country Correct the laws of whatever the the the flag that is flown for that ship Those of the laws that apply while you are on that ship and also apply when people interact with that ship right So the ship itself
[SPEAKER_04]: previously supposedly had and I guess they've got they actually have some some legitimate intel on this.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the ship itself supposedly had taken oil from Iran and was taking it to Venezuela.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it was on its way home.
[SPEAKER_04]: This was a previous time.
[SPEAKER_04]: This wasn't even this particular.
[SPEAKER_04]: This was this was a different time, but they had been sanctioned for transporting
[SPEAKER_04]: the the nominal reason that we are attacking Venezuela is because of the drug right not the oil right even though we freed a former president of a central american nation be a who is a great big drug guy and now don't want to go after the Colombian president for the same thing that he pardoned for another president got it for right exactly free the hunter and president what's got to call me a president and the Venezuelan president even though yeah it if you're confused
[SPEAKER_04]: You should be because it doesn't make any sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: he wants to go after two nations for the thing that he let the guy off from one nation by the way the former president of Honduras now has an international restaurant yes from Honduras from his own country right exactly because they were like no no he really was he really is that guy right exactly but here's the thing so the first thing was is that that obviously the media confronted them and they said well that this isn't for drugs obviously and so the Trump regime said no no it was about finance
[SPEAKER_04]: You remember when they pardoned the head of the crypto group by an answer?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know one of the reasons that that guy was in prison that he had gotten convicted?
[SPEAKER_04]: I forget.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know it, but it's out of my head.
[SPEAKER_04]: Financing scams, including financing scams with Iran.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, we're supposedly sanctioning this ship for doing the oil.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is not the oil.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're getting this ship because of the drugs.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's not the drugs.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're getting this ship because it's the financing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: We let the guy off who was doing financing that we did.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm confused.
[SPEAKER_03]: My brain hurts.
[SPEAKER_04]: They keep looking for excuses and
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, because that's the truth is that they really want you remember we said there are two reasons for everything We want the good reason and the right reason and the right reason that all this is going on is that Donald Trump and the people around him Pete keg breath and everybody they want regime change.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and they want us to yield the oil and as we all know regime change to steel oil wealth does this work very well with us?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we tried that before
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, for those of you who don't remember, uh, look up the Iraq War.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good boy.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I put it on play.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Donnie is definitely not on Santa's good list for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do.
[SPEAKER_04]: We got more news on tap.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have the wonderful John Views I'm coming in a little bit later.
[SPEAKER_04]: We do have a very good drink of the day as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you guys will dig this one.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is not going to bug you.
[SPEAKER_04]: The drink of the day today.
[SPEAKER_04]: So look, do what you can.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't look at me that way.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fresh it up your drink and come right back.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is a Thursday night with Jody and me and you hanging out here at the politics bar We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar
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[SPEAKER_04]: Phil up in Seattle.
[SPEAKER_04]: We hope you guys being safe.
[SPEAKER_04]: He always loves to send us messages in the bar line So that's that's Phil's thing some people are all blue sky.
[SPEAKER_04]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: I I don't mind We're we're glad everybody wherever you're at here in the bar Darrell on blue sky said that it is a dark day and Steph head nation Yeah, he sends his best to the voice to Edie Jim Ward and all those who loved him as well
[SPEAKER_04]: And, and Rich also, it over in the Facebook corner of the bar over here, he says that he's just a guy at the end of the bar with a slight connection to Karen from Chicago.
[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, please extend his condolences to the passing of the Great Jim Ward, who was a legend.
[SPEAKER_04]: So when we tend to agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you very much for all of your great wishes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Condolences to Jim's family and condolences still for rolling in for for me and my pups and my wife and I, so it's.
[SPEAKER_04]: a lot like we said the first time it's been hard here and there's some hard topics this this war with Venezuela the Donald Trump is trying to start yeah which some some folks were were you know messages here a little bit and we're like I'm still a little confused after you guys said that they can't take the oil and like well you remember when we we've done it
[SPEAKER_04]: With the nuclear agreement we've done it with Russia right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, like like with Ukraine we took
[SPEAKER_04]: 200 million or 200 billion suddenly a massive pile of money from Russia that they had had committed some crimes and basically the NATO countries, they had committed some banking crimes.
[SPEAKER_04]: They were trying to move money where they weren't supposed to.
[SPEAKER_04]: International law, we all agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: International law is actually not as much of it as you think, but what international law was, especially with banking stuff, because that is where a lot of the international law is,
[SPEAKER_04]: the West, basically the native nations, took that money and put it aside.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, we don't have the right to spend that money.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not ours.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just like with Iran, when we took the money with the business, that wasn't ours either.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: We couldn't, we can't spend the principle, but we can earn interest off of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And for example, with the Russian money, the interest that's being earned off of that pile of money is being given to Ukraine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ukraine is buying weapons from the United States.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're giving them to the Europeans and the Europeans are giving the weapons to the Ukrainians.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: All that makes sense?
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: With the oil that has been in this tanker, Venezuela, Donald Trump's like, oh, well, you know, we can take it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Same thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like those piles of money from Iran and Russia.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, we can't.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can take it and hold it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we can't take it and sell it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't belong to us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, since we know Donald doesn't follow the law,
[SPEAKER_03]: were.
[SPEAKER_03]: He to authorize either giving a selling it to us or giving it to us in the United States to bring down gas prices.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's still breaking into the end of the long or selling it to somebody else.
[SPEAKER_03]: So who's going to prosecute him?
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not part of the hay.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not part of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, but because of among things, other things, I mean, yeah, we, well, we think we can, we do stuff with the Hague, some of, but we are not part of the International Criminal Court, that's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not right.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're not with the ICC.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: But that doesn't mean that other nations can't sanction us.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: They could sanction us in the same way or similar way to some of these stupid ass tariffs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're going, so we can be sanctioned.
[SPEAKER_04]: It can cost you more at grocery store if Donald Trump tries to sell oil that he that he illegally took from Venezuela.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can hold the oil that we can do and eventually when Venezuela does what we want them to does what it because they committed a crime.
[SPEAKER_04]: The crime they committed was they were not supposed to take oil from Iran.
[SPEAKER_04]: Iran has sanctions on it.
[SPEAKER_04]: They took oil from Iran, they were bringing it to Venezuela, so that they could either take it in themselves or they could resell it, because their laws, that's okay to do.
[SPEAKER_04]: But internationally, they can't take it from Iran.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not allowed.
[SPEAKER_04]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So hopefully that clears that up a little bit, because it is, it's hard to understand some of this stuff sometimes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do get, when we're looking at some of this stuff, it seems very confusing.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, the long and the short of it is just the fact that we can't sell their oil.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not our oil right we can hold on to it because they broke a lot kind of like if you saw somebody Racing down the street Break in the speed limit laws or whatever and and the local authorities where you are are like hey If you've got the license plate numbers and you've got the visual proof then we can then then we can cite them You can show that you're not you know whatever
[SPEAKER_04]: you can act as an intermediary.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't go after them yourself.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're not a cop.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I hope everybody kind of understands where that's at kind of in that corner of the universe.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's important to follow the laws.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's important to follow the rules.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Even if it doesn't always make sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: And yes, there are exceptions to that for those of you are like, well, but there's the same thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, there's always exceptions.
[SPEAKER_04]: But
[SPEAKER_04]: Long and short, we don't want to be that, which we are trying not to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, tell them about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: There he's right there.
[SPEAKER_04]: One of the other people he's trying to shake down is Mexico's Claudia Shinebaum.
[SPEAKER_04]: She ain't gonna be shook.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's totally not going to be sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you hear that?
[SPEAKER_04]: So during this this Happy meal fake peace prize garbage from from FIFA.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: He actually met with Shinebaum.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you saw that.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I did not.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, see and again mainstream media completely missing it
[SPEAKER_04]: Donald's been threatening.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we're going to do this thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're actually doing a military borders own.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have that story in his on tap as well, which it's absolutely, it's just stupid.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a waste of resources.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a waste of resources.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a waste of time.
[SPEAKER_04]: It isn't going to do anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're threatening them over years.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's supposed to give us more water from this that the other blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But so he was he was threatening and throwing threats like 10 days ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then they met like five days ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: in clotty, signbound, you know, this is pretty.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she treated him nice, and she basically whatever, you know, I won't say she grew up in like, you know, Jim.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, she's or like, Erica Kirk and Jady Vell.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, oh, oh, yeah, that's different.
[SPEAKER_04]: But in general, yeah, same concept involved.
[SPEAKER_04]: But she, she got done, y'all nice and happy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, there you go.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's your little happy meal to a, and then five days later, he's, oh, yeah, well, we're gonna do this more thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's all bluster.
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of it is so much of it is bluster.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's such a, he's so easy and stupid and childish.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, and such a,
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't eat it narcissist.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it's just I mean the fact that he wants his name on everything just chaps my hides and he wants everybody to say he's the good boy in the world when he is clearly not Yeah, he is not the goodest boy in the world in fact.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's kind of dumb second round of a news on tap tonight
[SPEAKER_04]: The affordability stupid.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: Still don't know why he does understand that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, by the way, uh, uh, with affordability, um, in the Trumponomics is failing section.
[SPEAKER_04]: The new AP.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was got what did I see the top lines of that particular one where I looked that up before I came in here Donald Trump APN or NORC poll 2969 29% approval 69% disapproval Oh, that's bad Well, you got basically seven of ten people saying you suck at something and you're a national political figure No, you really suck
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I mean, we rarely agree on anything in this country at this point in time.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's a lot of people saying you suck.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and that's a lot of even even his own voters.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely his own voters are saying that because it wouldn't be that high.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Showed it is right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fenture Powell, by the way, said something that I'm not, I was kind of surprised to hear.
[SPEAKER_04]: have to say Bob Cesca with him doubting Bob Bob has been doubting the BLS and I've been saying you know the economists that I know have been saying until we hear otherwise until somebody who is in a position to know says that we can't trust the BLS very much that we should still mostly trust them well here alone put this on the DVR.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why did we move today?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I would say point to a couple of things.
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, gradual cooling in the labor market has continued unemployment is now up three tents from June through September.
[SPEAKER_01]: Payroll jobs averaging 40,000 per month since April.
[SPEAKER_01]: We think there's an overstatement in these numbers by about 60,000, so that would be negative 20,000 per month.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why did we, so, yeah, for those of you who don't speak fed ease, fed speak, what Chairman Powell was saying there is, they think there is an overstatement by the BLS.
[SPEAKER_04]: of jobs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That that that Donnie is trying to have somebody cook the books a little bit, not a lot, but just enough that it puts the jobs into positive territory and Chairman Powell was saying they think the actual number is just slightly in the negative territory.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, unemployment did tick up as far as I heard this morning, so that's not good.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's, and look, that's why the Federal Reserve Board dropped interest rates a quarter point again.
[SPEAKER_03]: But some people did not like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, people voted against it.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're divided.
[SPEAKER_04]: They are divided.
[SPEAKER_04]: And this is, so people who are worried that the next Fed shared that that's, it's going to come up this next year.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it worries me because there are a bunch of sickified idiots.
[SPEAKER_04]: The Trump is looking at and at putting in the new Fed share.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the good thing about it is that the way that the Fed works is, it's a vote of 12 people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Donald has not been able to stack that board.
[SPEAKER_04]: Much as he has tried, he cannot stack the Fed board.
[SPEAKER_04]: And because of that,
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got people who have multiple opinions.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got some people who think they need to do more.
[SPEAKER_04]: Some people think they need to do less.
[SPEAKER_04]: Some people who think they need to stand pat or in this case, the majority of them, I think it was eight of the 12 decided they needed a quarter point.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then the general consensus is, we're probably going to hold there, until further notice.
[SPEAKER_04]: So even if he gets this jackass who goes on CNBC in Fox Business, we're Kevin Hassett who doesn't know it was asked from a home on the ground, he doesn't get to make the calls that way.
[SPEAKER_12]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we'll see, we'll see that then.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Donnie seems to forget that he appointed Jerome Powell.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jodie's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he did.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, also in the area of jobs and not knowing what the hell is going on, we've got Secretary Nutley, I mean, let Nick, sorry, I always do that anyway, and we've got Secretary
[SPEAKER_05]: great American workers, you know, you're going to be on other net armies of millions of people.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, remember the army of millions and millions of human beings, screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones, that kind of thing is going to come to America.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be automated and great Americans, the trade craft of America is going to fix them.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's going to work on them.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's what he said eight months ago, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, this is what he just said earlier today.
[SPEAKER_05]: Americans don't have millions of people to screw in little screws and iPhones, but we do have the capacity to run robotics.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, when I say, he literally said the exact opposite, eight months ago.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, admittedly, it's a Donald Trump appointee.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I, Republicans, especially some of the ones who were in purple districts are starting to really, really sweat as they should.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if it's, if it's even a plus 15, they're not in good shape.
[SPEAKER_04]: Juddies, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: We are literally sitting on about two and a half weeks now, three weeks.
[SPEAKER_04]: before 20 million Americans lose health care, lose access to health care, in which case their primary care facility will become your ER, which will mean everybody's interest rates go up and and taxes go up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everything goes up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's Donnie keeps saying he doesn't want to give money to insurance companies.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do Medicare for all, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm there with the man.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every other nation in the world, whether they are democratic or not, has some form and all major ones have some form of universal healthcare because they've all figured this out already.
[SPEAKER_04]: So long past time that we said, you know what?
[SPEAKER_04]: You got to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You got to take the profit out of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, just how it's got to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, they used to be not profit.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, they're for sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: We could have more about that with it.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I know you're not for profit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, Johnny, before we do the drink of the day, I want to get a little bit more on the affordability stupid round of stuff coming out of the news on tap today, because obviously there was the votes from the Republican health care failures today, Senate voted for those who missed it on the ACA subsidy extensions they went over to today, Republican, yeah, I'm not surprised either, they decided on a health savings account like we were talking to Kimberly about yesterday, I mean, who?
[SPEAKER_03]: The health savings account.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're supposed to save the money.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, in theory, under health savings again.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you don't have the money to save, it's kind of hard to save.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is why the subsidies are important because you don't have the money to afford the say $600 a month or $1,000 a month.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it might not reach into the market itself and setting the prices.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: If we, if the government reached into the market and set the prices, then you wouldn't need the subsidies.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you even need the subsidies to lift you up to the point where you can afford it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or have the government come with a great big giant hand and force the prices down right and either way The prices on the back side for them For those businesses for hospitals for doctors for whatever for nurses those aren't going to go down So if you have a if you have a government coming down and setting the prices down then they say you also have to set the prices down for all the people that we get our pieces parts from and all of that It's a mess Well, it's also never subsidies work a little bit better than price setting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever read a claim from your insurance company?
[SPEAKER_04]: they are complex, ugly and stupid.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, like they'll send you this is what we paid for, this is what you paid for, this is what it cost.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like it costs $600, but you got to just kind of $400 and you owe $20, I'm like, so then it was $400 or it was $20, I don't, it's like,
[SPEAKER_04]: the math doesn't work, and especially if you compare it to the prices of some of these same things in other countries where they subsidize that the health here it's you're like okay so you know we in candidate cost twenty bucks for this and oh you're okay what's it cost in Germany?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well in the 17 what's it cost in the UK?
[SPEAKER_04]: 19 you're like so it's around twenty dollars yes but in America it costs you four hundred but like when I go to
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: She charges, you know, 600 bucks or whatever for the full physical because you're, you know, with the person and they do all sorts of things, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the insurance company pays her 400 something.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's $400.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not $600.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't it's it is very very backwards the Democrats by the way the Republicans got there their plan out there the A rampal vote with the Democrats dead for him and they had a reach 60 so obviously failed The Democratic plan got out there to extend the ACA subsidies very simple.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's keep doing what we're doing until we can figure out something better
[SPEAKER_04]: There were four Republican defections.
[SPEAKER_04]: Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Dan Sullivan, also from Alaska, also up for election in the past, Mark Guy and Josh Hawley surprised actually he was complaining he was complaining always always been getting how he's been kind of complaining and I'm I'm not a fan of Holly.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, not even.
[SPEAKER_04]: he's been making sense in a similar way to some of the the maga people who look you know we we we pray like magic you know she said the same sort of things so well because it's just very basic and it cuts across wherever you happen to be that it happens stupid and so that is that but by the way that didn't reach sixty votes either thing is is that because there are Republicans breaking away there are discussions now pushing the house and pushing tiny Johnson
[SPEAKER_04]: So Republicans are angry at their tiny Johnson, which, I mean, you know, they could beat their tiny, I'm just saying politically speaking.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't, don't, don't get your mind out of the gas, especially you, you over there, get your mind out of the gutter.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not talking about that anyway, beat your tiny, anyway.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm over here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Switzerland right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jody staying ahead of that one, but look, that the fact is there are three discharge petitions in the house.
[SPEAKER_04]: Republicans have two of them that basically say extend the AC subsidies, but try to put on like price limits and screw around with it, which you're not going to get enough people because once you start screwing around with the four mils and stuff, people are going to mean no, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: Democrats in the house.
[SPEAKER_04]: They actually got 16 Republicans.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's so far to go with.
[SPEAKER_04]: So in theory if enough did, they could actually get it through.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll have to see how that goes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they don't even need 16.
[SPEAKER_03]: They need five.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if they've got 16, that's a bill that gets passed.
[SPEAKER_04]: In theory, yes, in theory, that would be a petition that would get passed.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if they get that petition that discharge petition passed, then that would force it to be able to get to a vote.
[SPEAKER_04]: If everybody voted the same, then it would go through the house, but then the question is, then it goes to the Senate, and we know they don't have 60, and they have to get to 60.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, we're not there yet, and here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: The deadline no matter what you're doing is still December 31st.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's still a few weeks from now.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is effectively three weeks from now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, three weeks from today.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, three weeks from today is January 1st, so.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, they're talking maybe they'll push it into January, whatever, but I'm like, you know,
[SPEAKER_03]: The tax the tax is IRS stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's already law, which we've already cut a bunch of IRS stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then okay, let's say that let's say that they fix this on January 31st.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's say they fix it and then it gets pushed through that it's just an extension of all the
[SPEAKER_04]: They're still going to have to go in and basically, remember we've talked about cludges this year, we have a band-aid on top of a band-aid on top of a band-aid to fix a problem.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So this is the problem that Republicans haven't done squat with health care for 15 years, technically 30 years going back all the way to Hillary Care.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Haven't done squat on this for 30 years, but very definitely 15 years since we passed the ACA.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a Band-Aid because the extended ACA subsidies that Biden Harris and the Democrats got through.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what we're talking about.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not the initial subsidies, but the extended subsidies themselves were a bandaid to bring the subsidies up to where they were supposed to be in the first place, but that Republicans themselves said they didn't want to.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So follow me on this one.
[SPEAKER_04]: We needed to fix the healthcare problem 50 years ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: We was really starting to get bad 30 years ago and Republicans said, no, we're not going to fix it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Finally, 15 years ago, Democrats got a nice big fix through and have for at least the first few elections after that got their heads kicked in, but then people finally like the ACA.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the ACA was only supposed to be a stepping stone and Republicans had already made the ACA worse from the beginning because they made the subsidies not where they should be.
[SPEAKER_04]: So when we got another chance to make another small step forward, put another bandaid on and say, okay, what's at least
[SPEAKER_04]: That is what we are talking about that will end in three weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and when when this premium court overruled the mandate, that screwed things up, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: It screwed things up a little bit, but as Charles Gabba says over at acenips.net, that created the thing that's known as silver loading.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you go over there and you look at silver loading, he'll explain the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: We thought it screwed things up at first.
[SPEAKER_04]: It actually ended up making it better, but it only made it better because private insurance companies said, well, I can't get the money the way I'm supposed to.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I can get the money over here in another pile.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's all they cared about is getting their money.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they got their money, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: But now, with these extended ACA subsidies ending, 20 million people will not have insurance.
[SPEAKER_04]: Probably another 75 to 80 million more will have to pay significantly more for insurance.
[SPEAKER_04]: and probably another 25 million beyond that will still have to pay a little more for their insurance.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're talking about half the country here or more.
[SPEAKER_04]: At least dealing with no insurance or significantly expanded insurance.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, expensive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And all because so, you know, we had a problem.
[SPEAKER_04]: We didn't fix it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Democrats said, okay, this is kind of a clutch kind of a bandaid on it, but it's not completely covering.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'd like to put another bandaid report,
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it's finally got around to be able to put another band aid on it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now Republicans are like, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's partially rip off the partial band aid.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not my check.
[SPEAKER_04]: That still leaves the wound exposed if there's crap that's still under there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because we haven't solved the underlying problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's like with Medicare, they want to, they're, everybody has skin in the game, which is why there's always a donut hole.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, come on, these people are in their late 60s.
[SPEAKER_04]: Early 60s.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not working anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not like, they're not like your mom.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I like this people aren't.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like... My mom's not working anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, most people that aren't working anymore, they're on a very fixed income.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: If they're lucky, they have some savings or retirement.
[SPEAKER_03]: If they're lucky.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's super lucky.
[SPEAKER_04]: Most people these are especially in Gen X.
[SPEAKER_04]: We don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, we're paycheck to paycheck people You know, and even if you had some savings, it's like okay, so we had the pandemic nobody was working I had to go through you know you had to go through savings
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: So there's all kinds of stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But long and short Congress has got three weeks to fix this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the way to fix it right now is another Band-Aid.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's another clutch.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the best clutch is instead of trying to fuss with the formulas and mess things up in Yadiyada, just extend it the way it is for now.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then you make it a priority to actually fix the underlying issue.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, by the way.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is, this is, by the way, what Democrats have been proposing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And this has been Schumer's call on this, you know, we give credit where do and blame too.
[SPEAKER_04]: And on this, Schumer has been pushing for a three-year extension of the ACA.
[SPEAKER_04]: Extended out to at least February of 2029.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because, by then, hopefully, we'll have a Democratic House of Democratic Senate Democratic President.
[SPEAKER_04]: y'all got a got a admit no it's smart on his part and it it helps the Republicans if they just do it right because if they don't those 20 million people and their kids and their family members who don't have insurance and the other 75 million people who are having to pay way more for their insurance yep whole bunch of them are going to be voting
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's, it's just bad politics on the Republicans part.
[SPEAKER_03]: What are they thinking?
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, they're not.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're, they're, they, they keep saying, and I've seen several of them on the different cable nets here in the TVs, where they will say, well, the ACA is bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we just think it needs to be replaced because it just, it doesn't work the way that we think the system like this should.
[SPEAKER_03]: You think they're insurance company donors would be like, guys, hi.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I'm with you, but here's the thing, we agree on the democratic side.
[SPEAKER_04]: Cat Abigail is not just my friend, but she also has one of the best slogans out there.
[SPEAKER_04]: What if we didn't suck?
[SPEAKER_04]: What if the health care system in the United States didn't suck?
[SPEAKER_04]: What if it worked great?
[SPEAKER_04]: What if it was like you said, Medicare for all?
[SPEAKER_04]: What if it worked great?
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's a question that we should be asking.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you can't just say, well, what if and then get rid of the system you have and replace it with nothing?
[SPEAKER_03]: And go back to what we were before the ACA,
[SPEAKER_04]: Joe is right.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't beat something with nothing, and right now on health care, Republicans got nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have, they've had 15 years to come up with something not Romney care.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now, through extra for the deadline, they're going, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, maybe we should just extend it, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know it's been bugging some of you
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay The drink of the day is an Alabama planter's punch right
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's, this is the weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life.
[SPEAKER_03]: And on December 11, 1919, which was when copyright last started was that year 1919, just so you know, my brain goes there.
[SPEAKER_03]: In Alabama, they unveiled the bowl wevel monument.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, which?
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, enterprise, Alabama, small town like 25,000 people who've really listened down there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... it isn't a southeast corner of the state and they have this monument which some of the pictures of it make it look like it's like a hundred fifty feet tall like that's all but it is literally sitting in the middle of an intersection i remember the first time i saw that there are statues like that throughout the east coast and and the south not as many uh... in the Midwest or the west now here in the united states but for some reason and and look i understand in europe they did this to sometimes
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I went to when I went to Castle Tambear, Ireland, yes, for a family reunion.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was an IRA statue in the middle of the town square.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, I'm talking about, but they're literally right in the middle of an intersection.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm always like, isn't somebody doesn't somebody hit those in the answers?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, often times.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're, whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: And yes, this particular statue, the Bolwevo monument, has been hit before.
[SPEAKER_04]: There have been people who've stolen the little Bolwevo from the hands of the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a fun story behind this and it's kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: First of all, did you know before we did this for the drink of the day?
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you know what a bowl we've lived?
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know the whole story about this?
[SPEAKER_03]: I did not until I looked it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I knew some of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, bowl we've over those you don't know is a little beetle.
[SPEAKER_04]: And these little buggers are nasty.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're tiny.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like, you know, as the like quarter inch.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're like small.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like tiny Johnson.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_04]: And, uh, but they get inside the, the, the bulb of the cotton plants, also known as the bowl, and bowl weevil.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they get in there and they lay their eggs and they basically can destroy like 75% of a cotton crop.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's really,
[SPEAKER_03]: And they come at the original their native to Mexico so they they migrated up here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they migrated up here starting at the end of the 1800s and the early 1900s.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, started in Texas first.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm, cross the Rio Grande, um, about some trade ship when there's something like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's, you know, like a lot of bugs that's what they do, or, you know, the hit your right and the back of a bird or a squirrel or a rabbit or whatever.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, um, so it spread throughout the south was killing crop at the farmers.
[SPEAKER_04]: They couldn't figure out how to abandon a lot of the cotton because in a lot of places in the south.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was a many bigger.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not only was it a money maker, but some of these areas had land that isn't exactly great for growing stuff It isn't like some of the rich soil of the the midwest and the upper plains
[SPEAKER_04]: that look that that that that's why it was plowed tens of thousands a year ago by glaciers so that's why it that stuff is nice right you know this is this is a lot of a new miss city delta and and golf yes the gulf of Mexico mm-hmm anyway uh uh and and that the land wasn't so great and so it was like what the held you grow there and they couldn't they couldn't figure it out so they just went well we'll just plant more
[SPEAKER_04]: and there's a combination and it's interesting because when you look up the history you you found this first and I found it too.
[SPEAKER_04]: When you look up the history of this, they always notice that they point out Mr. H. M. Sessions moved to Enterprise, and moved to Enterprise, OWL.
[SPEAKER_03]: Alabama from the Ozarks.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, from the Missouri Ozarks started up an ag supply store.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, and obviously he's buying, you know, he's dealing with farmers.
[SPEAKER_04]: So obviously the bull people probably became a big deal for him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_04]: He went for everywhere from Virginia to the Carolina's rest of the South.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I guess, um, he noticed that not everybody figured this out.
[SPEAKER_04]: But actually, you know, who did figure it out first?
[SPEAKER_04]: Poor black people mostly naturally figured it out because they were the ones who were given a crappiest land and the bowl we will said you know gone all the way up through the whole south all the way up into Virginia and they're like okay they're like well what else grows there and what else grew there was peanuts
[SPEAKER_03]: That's where Jimmy Carter got the idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, a lot of peanut farms in Georgia.
[SPEAKER_04]: And actually, the interesting reason why we know the history, I always talk about his recessions is the person that they don't talk about very much and that they should is George Washington Carver.
[SPEAKER_04]: Brilliant brilliant man.
[SPEAKER_04]: Actually started at Iowa State of all things.
[SPEAKER_04]: One of the first black men in Iowa State.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a professor at the Tuskegee Institute, which is now a university.
[SPEAKER_04]: He developed techniques to improve the way that farmers could grow stuff, one of the things he talked about was rotating crops.
[SPEAKER_04]: One of the things he rotated out, rotated out the cotton and rotated in peanuts.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's fascinating story.
[SPEAKER_04]: We are so glad to everybody who helped out with this a lot of folks helped out with them today.
[SPEAKER_04]: Drunker's All-Nax, Miss Sonyan, and the P River Historical and Geological Society down there in Alabama.
[SPEAKER_04]: you guys should really have to check it out.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're the drink of a day.
[SPEAKER_04]: How do we make one of these wonderful Alabama plantry's punch drinks, Jody?
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: You need a shaker.
[SPEAKER_03]: A Collins or high ball glasses with a tall glasses.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ice, an ounce of cognac, a half ounce of rum, any kind of rum, doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_03]: Half ounce of bourbon.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Three quarters of an ounce of fresh lemon juice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: A half ounce of simple syrup or a teaspoon of sugar.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you don't have simple syrup and some club soda.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you add all the ingredients except the club soda to the shaker.
[SPEAKER_03]: You add ice, shake until cold, strain into the glass, fill it with ice, which is filled with ice on its own.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's on the rocks.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like the drink.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like the history too.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I like that we actually kind of, you know, added it and corrected it in there.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yes, thank you for doing that.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, look, it's love.
[SPEAKER_04]: We are, the resources that are out there.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was, I was somewhat shocked and somewhat not, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: There was so many of these resources that didn't talk about the competition of George Washington Carver, which is not surprising.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and it's clear Mr. Mr.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sessions his family is still like us.
[SPEAKER_04]: They have a peanut processing plant down there in Alabama.
[SPEAKER_04]: They still got a hundred years later family business.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, but all the all the history mentions him and yet a lot of them cut out the intelligent black man who actually is the big reason why peanuts are one of the bigger crops in the south.
[SPEAKER_12]: So well, I mean a lot of black folks have been cut out of history.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I didn't know about the Tulsa massacre until I watched a television show.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, this is one of the reasons why diversity helps us to actually be more aware of every thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of our own history?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: And.
[SPEAKER_04]: Also aware of the fact that there are great people who help us out in all kinds of ways.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, George Washington Carver was a brilliant, really.
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of people call him Dr.
[SPEAKER_04]: Carver, by the way, he never actually earned.
[SPEAKER_04]: He got some honorary doctoral degrees, but he did not actually get a official doctorate incident.
[SPEAKER_03]: Either a PhD or anything else.
[SPEAKER_04]: So he was like, yeah, people think I'm smart, whatever, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: They call me Dr. Gros, that's whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's just interesting that
[SPEAKER_04]: When you know those possibilities are there, and you run into a problem, you're going to look at your toolbox of who do I know, who do I know, what do I have access to to solve the problem?
[SPEAKER_04]: If you have it in your brain, that only white people are going to have the solution, which is what white nationalists want.
[SPEAKER_04]: They only want you to know white people had solutions.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if that were the case,
[SPEAKER_04]: we would have been screwed economically and we would have been screwed agriculture in the United States long time a hundred years ago well i mean in the women that helped get to guys on the moon
[SPEAKER_04]: There are so many cases of women and persons of color and disabled people making huge differences.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's one of the reasons that we do that with the drink of the day is that we correct the history and make sure that you guys actually know what's going on.
[SPEAKER_04]: Besides that, they can't get after us for DEI here because we like diversity, equity and inclusion and accessibility.
[SPEAKER_04]: and we're not getting in there federal money so well there's there's that as well so yeah but it's it's it's nice if you guys we tell you subscribe that's that's why we like having you subscribe to the drink of the day it's just a is recommendation and we think that you guys it'll be helpful to you that that way as well by the way Tom Schaefer are one of our great listeners here in the bar he's on the blue sky corner of the bar over here I believe he says another reason
[SPEAKER_04]: that uh... we should use sand serif fonts that thing we're talking about yesterday we've got a story on that in the news on tap today stupid little marco changing out the fonts at the state department but he said another reason to use the same serif ones is excess ability right people can read it easier exactly so you know but that's that's these these trump people is hey let's make things harder for everybody i mean marketers know this i mean
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I know, I know, you, you and I know we're, we're smart, but they are not exactly graphic artists know this I mean anybody that has to do this and they want their product to say sell you need to be able to read it you would think you think you think you think one would
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: We do have some entertainment news.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you've seen it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can click through it's in our entertainment section.
[SPEAKER_04]: The first super girl trailer has been released in the O'clock.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm really, that is good.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's going to be a really good, good, should be a good movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: NASCAR, by the way, has settled their federal anti-trust case filed by two of its teams, including the one owned by Michael Jordan.
[SPEAKER_04]: And, um, Sharan Moore, uh, now former Michigan head football coach.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a, we got a couple of stories on
[SPEAKER_04]: Looks like he had an inappropriate relationship with the students.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a student assistant.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I get But he had a beautiful wife kids great job.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, then you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Violent threats of violence and things so we got arrested and He'd make trouble.
[SPEAKER_04]: You guys can read that.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's in the entertainment section now at the news on tap
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[SPEAKER_04]: Back with John Fueg was saying on the Thursday night, you mean Jody?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, hang out with John.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hang on.
[SPEAKER_08]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is a Thursday night here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_04]: You guys know what that means.
[SPEAKER_04]: The one the only job and feel was at house Coming in hanging out with all of us all of us ruffians who are, you know, just not fit to hang out with you You know, and in a bar or well anywhere else really you mean, you know
[SPEAKER_04]: How are you, John?
[SPEAKER_04]: What are you up to?
[SPEAKER_04]: You're getting ready for the holidays here?
[SPEAKER_06]: Not fit not fit to hang out with me in a bar.
[SPEAKER_06]: Is that what you're saying or not fit to hang out with a universal you in a bar?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I'm the universe.
[SPEAKER_04]: There are some of us who are and then there's some of the folks who are over in these corners over here who, you know, you know, you know, you know, I'm talking about those folks.
[SPEAKER_04]: Those.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're the one.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, hey, all I can say is two MRIs and six months and three dementia tests tells me everything's fine America.
[SPEAKER_06]: Everything's fine.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not worried, I'm happy Christmas, because you know, we can non-violently seize an oil super tanker, but not a coke skiff.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the country that's what we're working with right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: If it's a little bow with an outboard motor, we might have to vaporize it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But a big bow with oil, well, let freedom wrangle, take it non-violently.
[SPEAKER_06]: I promise.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is this is just so dumb of them.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is we we created that term earlier this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Was that this summer journey?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, half asses.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was early in the summer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Half asses of half ass plus fascism and that is really the story of the Donald Trump regime, especially during 2025.
[SPEAKER_04]: The second regime.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is it's definitely fascism, but it's definitely half assed.
[SPEAKER_04]: They are everything they do.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like,
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, I mean a whole tanker.
[SPEAKER_06]: like like a floating home depot parking lot like we we grab that thing like it was a shopping car with no owner right like we see the largest tanker ever because it wasn't carrying drug us it was carrying oil right if that boat had 20 kilos of cocaine on it he'd have said oh it's too small it's too poor blow it up does your father's you care but fill it with oil a hello beautiful you're coming home with daddy
[SPEAKER_06]: And this was one day, friends, one day after Trump gave his racist speech in a Pennsylvania casino, back room, where they cram 200 people in and tried to make it look like a stadium, and you had to cram 200 people into a casino, and John, you're the New York Order of the Bar.
[SPEAKER_04]: Currently, if I'm wrong, but the Polkanos are generally one of the places that wealthy people in New York go for vacation.
[SPEAKER_04]: right or middle class people yeah okay but but but I'm saying not the poor people and not the working people so going to a casino where poor people go for vacation is exactly the right thing to do when you need to talk to america about affordability right?
[SPEAKER_06]: No Sean no holding an event in a casino to talk about an affordability crisis is what you do you talk about the affordability crisis down the hall from nickel slots if you're
[SPEAKER_06]: because karma needs something to help it get aroused at this point even carbon he's a little bit of help to get to get going these days but see this is this is their whole this is their whole stick this is what they do this is this is their level of incompetence so he's giving this racist rant in the casino insulting Somali immigrants and calling them pirates
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I said?
[SPEAKER_06]: The other thing they're good for is going after ships and then 12 hours later he goes after a ship.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's the only man alive who can spread a racist stereotype.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the next day adopted his policy.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's this man.
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Funny thing is John is that with Scano who's over here in the blue sky corner of the bar he literally said the same thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: He said funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: Donnie was talking crap about some homologies at the same time.
[SPEAKER_04]: He hijacked an oil tanker just like a Somali pirate.
[SPEAKER_04]: Great minds think like obviously.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, what the heck?
[SPEAKER_06]: There were no drugs.
[SPEAKER_06]: There was no cocaine.
[SPEAKER_06]: First it was fentanyl.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you know how many times if you guys got in fentanyl from Venezuela, none of my fentanyl has ever come from there.
[SPEAKER_06]: I checked the label seeing it's all regulated.
[SPEAKER_06]: And now it's fall.
[SPEAKER_06]: We get the pumpkin spice fentanyl here in New York.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's actually nice for families.
[SPEAKER_06]: But no, so then they'd rise and say it's cocaine.
[SPEAKER_06]: And again, like this is right after Trump pardon's Honduran president, 400 tons of cocaine in the country.
[SPEAKER_06]: So there's no cocaine on this.
[SPEAKER_06]: The only lines these guys care about are the ones drawn on a map around oil fields.
[SPEAKER_06]: And now the American Navy, one of the most respected global peacekeeping forces in history, is now used like the muscle in a gas station hold up.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the Navy has to drive the getaway car for a crime now.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's where it's at.
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the thing too.
[SPEAKER_04]: We were talking about that earlier.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not only did they, they, they're, they're, they're excuse about taking this tanker.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, it was about, uh, let's see here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, the sanctions on oil.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, it actually wasn't about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't about the drugs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, it wasn't even about the financing because, among other things, uh, Trump has pardoned all these people.
[SPEAKER_04]: He pardoned the, uh, it was that the Honduran president,
[SPEAKER_04]: He's part of the the the Binance guy who actually dealt with financing for Iran all the things that they're trying to claim that it is It's like over here.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the crime and over here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, by the way, we're pardon you for the same crime that we're getting over these people Aye.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, and she lay in Maxwell waits by the phone.
[SPEAKER_06]: She lay in Maxwell waits by the phone.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_06]: That call is coming to you know, no evidence of drugs here.
[SPEAKER_06]: No cartel seizures.
[SPEAKER_06]: No drug bus.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't want that.
[SPEAKER_06]: They want the oil.
[SPEAKER_06]: They want the same Republicans who got behind war for oil based on a lie 20 years ago.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then 10 years ago they said we're different.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right Trump gave him these and all these magas and now these magas think they were always against the rat if you talk to any of these guys They act like they were always against the iron ore I'm like I didn't see you at my protest marches.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh really what was how was your experience campaigning for John Kerry?
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, they were for the Iraq war then they pretended they were against that they're for the same exact thing Exactly for oil based on lies.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the problem is he's not gonna be able to get away with it
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's the beauty.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's a solution, but I still think it's just it's it's it's like we were saying it's have asked it's it's dumb.
[SPEAKER_06]: But that's the greatest thing about America in the 21st century Sean.
[SPEAKER_06]: I keep trying to explain this.
[SPEAKER_06]: We have so much to be thankful for in this country, family and health and you know how Taylor Swift is doing in her personal relationships but the greatest blessing is in the 21st century.
[SPEAKER_06]: America's want to be fascists are too stupid to do fascism right yeah yes that is what we don't give enough credit bush and shady yeah they invaded Iraq and they caused a lot of death and destruction in a global recession and a housing market crash but boy they wanted to take over social security more than anything they wanted to privatize social security so badly
[SPEAKER_06]: They screwed up everything and they were run out of town.
[SPEAKER_06]: Same with Trump screwed up everything, now Trump's back again and it's doing the same exact thing, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And the beautiful thing is with these fascists, the stupid
[SPEAKER_06]: He's always greater than the sinister.
[SPEAKER_06]: I call them Dim Shady.
[SPEAKER_06]: That is our blessing.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're full of fascists, but they're all incompetence.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they won't stop proving it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And my God, today, Dim Shady DOJ edition for years.
[SPEAKER_06]: They've been screaming.
[SPEAKER_06]: Joe Biden's weaponizing the DOJ.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you know what I say that?
[SPEAKER_06]: Because Donald Trump and his floaties committed crimes,
[SPEAKER_06]: right citizens on jury saw evidence and rendered guilty verdicts which means Joe Biden's weapon as did you so logically they're going to do that right whatever they accused someone else of doing they're going to do so they're weaponizing the DOJ Just to go after Donald Trump's enemies right because again that's law fair over here at Starrstay
[SPEAKER_06]: And they're going after Tisch James and now the DOJ just tried under Future Dispired Lawyer Pam Bondi.
[SPEAKER_06]: They just tried for the third time to indict New York State Attorney General Attisha James and the grand jury just said LOL no for the first time.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was their verdict.
[SPEAKER_06]: LOL no was written on the jury for great news.
[SPEAKER_04]: We haven't we haven't heard that but we got them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is the third time.
[SPEAKER_06]: that they've gone after tish james and the third time the juries are like nabro and tish james revealed he was a liar tish james revealed that this guy inflates his net worth like a blow up doll so he pushed out a real u.s attorney right the one who said sir we don't have evidence right and replace them with linsey haligan
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Who has as much experience as, you know, my bang from college.
[SPEAKER_06]: She got an indictment.
[SPEAKER_06]: Judge tossed it out.
[SPEAKER_06]: They tried again, rejected.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I mean, it's just like, like a grand jury won't indict.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, like, you don't have a case.
[SPEAKER_06]: right no so so so now they try to one more time and this is after pro public drops the bomb that shrub filed mortgages of the nineties claiming two different houses as is primary residents within seven weeks which is exactly what they're accusing just James of doing here and again they're just two incompetent which means fox news will be talking about how Kyle written house found love tonight because they're not going to cover more family no kidding boy friend
[SPEAKER_06]: And if, by the way, if Kyle Ritt now is going to find love, there's hope for all incompetent Nazis who are on attractive.
[SPEAKER_06]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, now you now you've downed it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now you put a harsh on my mellow there because I was all excited, but you said there's hope for incompetent Nazis.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sure I would I hope you never find love with a woman who would love Kyle Ritt now.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I don't wish that on you, my man.
[SPEAKER_06]: wife my wife would not like Kyle written house she doesn't already there you go exactly but uh... that you mentioned the house if you can't even break a prosecution when you run the justice department right you're just you're just like a failed open my comic my life that's it with a federal pension
[SPEAKER_04]: he said that what they were were were one of the things that they were saying about Biden am I wrong about that that they were saying that's law fair yes that's what i say that was the whole premise of my rent but i'm saying no but i'm saying they were also saying that Biden was too incompetent they were going well god i can't believe that he tried to rig this stuff and then he didn't take it off course he's not only a criminal he's he's just stupid as hell about it and it's like your guy is literally doing that Biden was not doing
[SPEAKER_06]: Well that but that's but that's always what they're right Biden has dementia and he's a socialist mastermind Barack Obama's an amateur in over his head And he's a socialist mastermind.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like they can walk and shoot them mentally on contradictions if the lies make them equally happy Sean you know this right so this is all they got to do to feed you and again Joe Biden Bill Clinton Barack Obama all inherited a mess and left the White House with an economy better than what they inherited
[SPEAKER_06]: George Bush senior George Bush junior Trump one-end Trump two all left the White House with an economy worse than what they had heard it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the last 35 years of our presidential politics.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, consistent.
[SPEAKER_04]: We talked about that earlier.
[SPEAKER_04]: John Judd and I were about the affordability crisis.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now things are just, they still are not getting all of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: We pointed something out earlier.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you noticed this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fetch your pal when he was talking about stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that hero, huh?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, look, he is now saying
[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't fully trust all the numbers coming from them.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
[SPEAKER_06]: He gave his speech yesterday, Jerome Powell, and he said the tariffs don't work the tariffs are hurting the economy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: But he still gave Trump what he wanted anyway, and he cut the interest rates a third time to juice the numbers to hide the damage done by the tariffs.
[SPEAKER_06]: So he admits that he admits the crime, but Sean, he admits the crime, and then he helps the cover up on the same day.
[SPEAKER_04]: Powell has got the dual mandate though and the thing that he was focusing on was the fact that the jobs are so that's why he has to do it is because of the jobs But it's like because the jobs are you know, he doesn't necessarily trust the numbers and the fact that you can't trust the numbers right right You can look out on the street Trump is tired of losing the war with math
[SPEAKER_04]: That was the shunt out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I lose the war with math.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: We will never know the unemployment numbers for October and November of 2025 because they literally censored them from like a Soviet continent, cosmonaut airbrush out of the photo.
[SPEAKER_06]: We'll never know.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're burying the evidence in a lead box.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're just doing it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but it was easy to do that when, you know, normally you have to have people to collect the numbers and when they're all sitting out because tiny johnson won't do his job well they all collect the numbers he's doing his job Sean his that yeah that job not the one that he has the same job every trump lucky has do what trump says and watch yourself be destroyed by your obedience and it's happening he is destroying himself that is it what he was meant to do he was meant to destroy himself for colligula
[SPEAKER_04]: He's a punk and can you imagine in a prison the Aryans would pass Mike Johnson around like a Blunt at the source awards that we don't have some come on over I got some flat from people earlier today because I said, you know, we're talking about the healthcare thing And there are a lot of Republicans in Congress are mad and I said that some of those Republicans are now beating their tiny Johnson and something
[SPEAKER_04]: Sean Louise stop it look I just mean that they're mad at him.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're they're now pushing him around.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're they're putting in through these Dispass but dispatch petitions and they're basically going to try to go around him to at least some of them are talking about going around him and and joining with the Democrats to get get the extended ACA subsidies which
[SPEAKER_04]: Whatever, I mean, that's fine, but like I said, I'm not the one who has the problem with that.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're the one who are beating their tiny Johnson.
[SPEAKER_06]: But please keep in mind also that this is happening because Johnson is still being loyal to Trump.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's not leading.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we see that Marjorie Taylor Green is representative of more and more Republicans who haven't changed their views on anything.
[SPEAKER_06]: Marjorie Taylor Green hasn't found Jesus on a single issue.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's as evil and dishonest and bigoted as she always was.
[SPEAKER_06]: She also can see how this Trump thing is going to
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, even if you're obedient, you know this thing ends like the last scene of Scarface.
[SPEAKER_06]: And Marjorie Taylor Greene is saving her skin in ways that other Republican congressmen have not been, I mean, I don't think it will save her skin, but she's putting space there now.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they'll all do it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, just now, also another breaking news, Indiana Republicans just gave Trump the finger that Republican controlled Indiana State Senate voted down the maps to bring two more Republican seats while the Republicans just voted it down.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like can you imagine the Indiana Republicans in the Senate they know how evil this is They're so desperate and scared.
[SPEAKER_06]: They know what a colossal failure these child rapists protectors are gonna be That they've been tried a cheat 15 months early in Texas like that's how desperate and you can smell it Marjorie Taylor Green can read the room better.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, you're right.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's in 20 and it is
[SPEAKER_04]: You're saying they're going when even they get it when they're like, oh, this ship is going down.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we got it.
[SPEAKER_04]: We got another round.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know they are down hall left right center, we aim to please you aim to please which Sean it's their bathroom.
[SPEAKER_06]: They can make a mess.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna keep telling you this.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You can't impose.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can't impose sanitary restrictions on someone's personal commote sir.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The one and only John Fuckel said, hanging out with us here this evening still.
[SPEAKER_04]: And, uh, God, you were right earlier when you when you popped in the bar here and you were saying that this week has just been an absolute, uh,
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, the fire hose of tennis balls.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, yes, yes, because it has been, it's just been, it's absolutely insane, and I get it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe they're trying to preload the month because even the half-assist, as we jokingly call them, in the Trump regime, are going to take the last two, and I don't think they're actually going to take the last, I think you're going to find other stupid things to do.
[SPEAKER_04]: But most people are going to be taking the last two weeks of the year off.
[SPEAKER_04]: We, by the way, for those of you who are listening, we will still be doing fresh content as well as some of the best interviews of the year, including probably at least one that we've done with you, John.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, because you know, you're always good for anything.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sure people will really enjoy hearing the rant about stuff that happened seven months ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, some of your rants are evergreen.
[SPEAKER_04]: They are evergreen.
[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, mentioning this, you knew obviously our friend as well from the Stephanie Miller show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jim.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Jim Ward.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He 66.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: When we were kids, 66 seemed old and now it's like
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, when our grandparents were kids, you know, 50% of some, yeah, I mean, we're living, we're living longer.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Jim was sick for a while and it's rare you find someone with that level of talent and that level of kindness in the same body, that level of
[SPEAKER_06]: true just um caring and empathy and warmth and yet so shockingly funny I used to try when I still lived in LA I would do like I you know started doing my own rooms my own comedy shows and inviting my people to come to Setson.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that was really fun and I tried so hard.
[SPEAKER_06]: I would beg Jim to come do stand-up sets because I just wanted him to be on stage And he'd be like, oh, I'm more of a voice actor now and I'm like, no, but you can go.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've seen you in front of a room.
[SPEAKER_06]: He opened sexy liberal shows.
[SPEAKER_06]: He came on stage I mean, Jim was a great joke writer and he was so funny and he had such great timing.
[SPEAKER_06]: I begged him to do more stand-up and
[SPEAKER_06]: If people knew his work, they knew it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's been really amazing in facing his passing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Seeing how half the comments are people who loved him from the political work on Stephanie Miller.
[SPEAKER_06]: And half the comments are people who have no idea who Stephanie Miller is.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they loved Jim for his work as a great animation voice-over actor.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been, I noticed that, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's been, and it's been a weird couple of weeks for me personally.
[SPEAKER_04]: Lost my dog last weekend.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so sorry, and thanks my wife and I we spent all weekend basically running between veterinarians And that was not fun and then last week friend of mine Alan Gilmer Six weeks ago seven weeks ago now he was still working a Walmart Pancreatic cancer gone in the flash and it's just it's been a hard year.
[SPEAKER_04]: I lost my stepdad and March We lost you'll so cool this year
[SPEAKER_06]: There are a lot of people in who've lost people this year and it's just I've been to many funerals this year and Jim was the third comedian friend that I've lost in the past eight days Yeah, I mean that's I'm glad for everybody who's still here
[SPEAKER_04]: we are we are very glad for you as well honestly it is it you don't need to you don't want to do that play that that's that's thought with peril there please no honestly it's been it has been a blast this year seeing you go around with your book tour and seeing how many people who are absolutely love you love your work and they do love you from different corners of your professional past
[SPEAKER_06]: 20 27 by the way, that's how many it's been 27 people who love me and that you ask how see how many I've been counting so, and they've been lovely, no it's been it's been great and you know I was really pleased that I joked for a while that my book was a
[SPEAKER_06]: Separated of Truth and Hate was my project 2025, but it did take over my entire year, and I really put a lot into it, but on a personal level it's really gratifying.
[SPEAKER_06]: I share with your listeners to have a piece of work that I worked on for 13 years before I got a deal of 15 years from the time I submitted my first proposal to the time the book was released was 15 years, and to have had so much rejection.
[SPEAKER_06]: for this project and so many people didn't think and then to have it make the New York Times best-seller list for several weeks, don't give up guys.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you have a project, if you have something that you just feel like your soul wants you to complete, even if it's a painting or a song you're writing or a play you want to write or something, just get back to it and work at it and make sure that it's what you want it to be and be proud of it and then
[SPEAKER_06]: Get it done and move on with your life if I had not written this book.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd be miserable because it was eating at me for a decade and a half that you know I hadn't done it and so it's it that's the best part of my year to to realize that hey Sometimes you just keep at it with something and and a can yield something Really positive and even if it hadn't sold I just would have been so happy that I had done it and gotten it done and moved on to the next thing which for me as you guys know is a singing scat now that the book is done
[SPEAKER_06]: I can go back to my roots and go back to the Speakeasy scene and return to my first passion.
[SPEAKER_06]: So thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I cannot wait to go to your next, uh, scat session.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, it's amazing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Scooby-do-watt-zu.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I can't wait.
[SPEAKER_06]: You'll be there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do I pretty much anything you've done?
[SPEAKER_04]: I know you are, you are probably your own harshest critic.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, the Vatican might have had a little bit to do with that, Sean, but they coached me well, yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, there's that, but...
[SPEAKER_06]: Here's how it works.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you feel bad about something you did, that's guilt.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you feel bad about who you are as a person, that's shame.
[SPEAKER_06]: But if you feel shame, because you think God was you to feel even more guilt, that's Catholic.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's how it works.
[SPEAKER_04]: thing for me is that, you know, we've known each other now.
[SPEAKER_04]: God, I think 15-ish year 14-15 somewhere in that corner of the universe through staff and Randy and all of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And of course, Jim and all of us have known each other through that corner of the world.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's just when you see
[SPEAKER_04]: It's, it's really great.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's nice to see.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're like, thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now all of you can see why we like this particular person, why they kick ass.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What's nice about it is that I describe this book as light, dense, light, but dense.
[SPEAKER_06]: It goes to some very heavy areas, but I think it is the most controversial thing I've ever done.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it is also, in my opinion, the most commercial thing I've ever done.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's the most personal thing I've ever done.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I've got a lot of experience in television.
[SPEAKER_06]: that taught me that my definition of success is not the same as my reps and I've had the experience of like having very well paid jobs that I was not proud of and it taught me that success is not being well-known or being well compensated or being famous for something you don't think it's cool.
[SPEAKER_06]: So for this it was especially gratifying to do something that
[SPEAKER_06]: I think crosses a lot of lines and you know I'm here to try to unite atheists and believers together because the Christian nationalists want the nice believers and the non-believers to hate each other and we have to join forces to defeat the the crazy Christians.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey great.
[SPEAKER_04]: the, uh, whatever the hell that book is.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm seeing it in my head.
[SPEAKER_04]: We had it in Mondays, uh, uh, news on tap, Jody.
[SPEAKER_04]: The thing that were Europe is sitting there going, are you freaking kidding me?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like the, uh, national strategic survey or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: A, so white nationalists that they want Europe to basically be white nationalists again, that they're trying to magnify Europe with this new policy.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm going, uh,
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like on top of everything else that's that's happened this week news wise there's that there's it goes from everything from that to hey there is the new uh... super girl uh... did that that came out today but i mean so she got light stuff like that and then you've got you know let's magnify the world i'm going on my god and Donald Trump saying you know
[SPEAKER_04]: doing his stupid thing, ignoring affordability, the health care votes failing, and now some of the Republicans joining with the Democrats on that, the legal stuff, oh, you mentioned Lindsey Halligan earlier, by the way.
[SPEAKER_04]: They are actually now going to try to do it the right way, which I suppose, Jenny and I were talking about that to start the day, or what's the other that I can't remember about, if you're going to do something wrong, do it right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they
[SPEAKER_04]: In Congress.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think I began.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think I began my little rant here talking about, thank God, our fascists are so incompetent.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because they try to do what they accuse Biden of doing.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they're not good at it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think a lot of people are done with this.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think people are tired of war crimes, when tariffs and racist rallies and casinos, they're tired of deregulating polluters.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're tired of watching these grifters get rich off of Trump's crypto scam, a tired of piracy, the Navy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Our Navy, the people who fought fascism, are now being used, the Navy's now being used as a fascist getaway car.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think this week, Miami and Georgia told the truth that voters, voters have had enough enough of the lies and the collapsing economy in the January 6 cover up and enough of protecting the Epstein rapists, enough of our government being run by evil racist
[SPEAKER_06]: Close that racist crap out close your role we saw guys the political realignment is already underway the democratic house in twenty twenty seven is going to look very different than this one a lot of people we love are going to be gone But notice both how both both bodies will be different the republican house will look different because Republicans who are young and able body are Quitting the democratic house will be different because it's a generational shift happening in the older guard even people I love like janscha kowski and body Watson Coleman
[SPEAKER_06]: They're stepping away for the young blood to come in.
[SPEAKER_06]: The two parties will look different, but for very different reasons.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I imagine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't know if you saw this, Joe, I think you were the one that pointed this out to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: The race in Ohio.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tell John.
[SPEAKER_04]: Please let me find it over here.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's in the elections and redistricting.
[SPEAKER_04]: It goes along with the, if you know Boltzmag, they can great political work.
[SPEAKER_04]: They say Democrats flip 21% all the seats that were up for election this year that were held Republicans.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: The last time that we did that in a year before a midterm election was 2017 and it was 20% in 2017.
[SPEAKER_04]: So here's the big one.
[SPEAKER_06]: Next here's the deal.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not about turnout.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's about who stays home.
[SPEAKER_06]: And in 2020 Joe Biden had more votes for president than any person who's ever run for any office in the history of this country because we had the pandemic lockdown and more people were paying attention.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, people.
[SPEAKER_06]: were watching the news.
[SPEAKER_06]: They were more politically engaged and they had the time because nobody was going out and having a life to right away and get their damn mail-in ballot.
[SPEAKER_06]: So we were more engaged and democracy then.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now we're back to the usual model and they're going to try to suppress the vote all they can.
[SPEAKER_06]: We'll never know how much they succeeded in expressing the vote in 2024.
[SPEAKER_06]: But the reality is for 2026.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's going to be 2018 and 2022 will live again.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because Republicans know there's folks that will not come in from the swamps come out from the mountain come out from the woods to vote if that Mr. Trump from the television is not on the ballot.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's folks that just aren't going to show Ohio.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tell them about Ohio because I love this.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is my kind of a bolstered thing for today.
[SPEAKER_04]: New Emerson Poll I believe in Ohio.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, oh please, I have it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's me.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're almost done.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, he is down by one to the Democrat who are calling her name is Amy Akten and they are basically and it's it's a year out and already they're turning away from Ramoswami and Ramoswami.
[SPEAKER_06]: Ramoswami is like a fatty Haskell from Leaver to Beaver was up all night doing Coke with James Woods in a basement.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a different Ramoswami.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Understandably, wouldn't like him.
[SPEAKER_04]: John, thank you as always for coming and hanging out with us.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, you woke left.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tomorrow is Friday.
[SPEAKER_04]: We are Karen and Anita.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, we do.
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