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[SPEAKER_02]: This is Troy and Joel and you are listening to Revived Thoughts.
[SPEAKER_00]: The devil did not care to have a miracle performed, but as Christ indicates in his answer, he desired to rob the Lord of his faith and confidence in the mercy of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to implant into his heart the thought, God has forgotten and forsaken thee.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every episode we bring to a different voice from history and a sermon that they delivered and today we're going back to the early 1500s to here Martin Luther sermon connected to Well, we missed it, Troy.
[SPEAKER_01]: We missed Reframing today this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you are you were trying to
[SPEAKER_01]: traveling last week when we filmed, when we recorded for our reformation episodes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but we still wanted to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We still had it on the schedule.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're just doing it a week late.
[SPEAKER_01]: So psychologically, go back in time and we're experiencing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so to make you feel better.
[SPEAKER_02]: unintentionally.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we actually came up with a real great episode by Martin Luther.
[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe the Lord needed it to come a little bit later so it could be this one because I'm really excited to talk to you about a set.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have covered Martin Luther every year we have put a sermon out by Martin Luther the day before or on Reformation Day that week of and the little sadly the one year it would have been perfect the October 30th right before Reformation Day the day that we remember Martin Luther for
[SPEAKER_02]: Henry, in the 95th season, when that was the week I missed, but I really think that this episode is so very good that it will make up for that fact.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you will, you will go, okay, you put it out late, but I know there are people who probably the Reformation Day parties were ruined because the annual listening to the raw, I thought it's Martin Luther's sermon, didn't get to come through.
[SPEAKER_02]: You had to listen to a rerun or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure that many people were disappointed,
[SPEAKER_02]: Joel, we have some positive responses.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have one here by Alan Cross, who on Spotify, let's a very positive, nice, nice, nice!
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just one word, but it's with a lot of ease and exclamation marks.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's about as exclamationy as I get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was nice, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for listening, Alan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Another comment here, Phil, this was so good that I'm going to have to listen to it again, well done, Matthew Henry, and at revised thoughts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Highly recommend, was that what exclamation marks?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Matthew Henry, visiting friends, a lot of you really enjoyed that, and it was really fun to hear other people kind of write in and be like, yeah, you know, I did also use Matthew Henry in my Bible commentaries back in my
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a college in seminary, we told everyone we know everyone did, it was you couldn't not.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's also just fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love one in episode just connects with a lot of people, and I especially love it is kind of a pure tin name that a lot of people are familiar with Matthew Henry and a lot of people again use his commentary and stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's not like one of the big names, you know, he's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are certain episodes that I expect to click with a lot of listeners.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I put out Charles Spurgeon, J.C. Ryle, Jonathan Edwards, they're just really famous names and church history for sermons, Martin Martin Luther.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we expect them to have, you know, a lot more people connect with them, just because the name recognition.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the things I really always enjoyed about Reviathons is that we also pull up people you've never heard of.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guarantee you in our catalog.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of you have not heard of somebody, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no way you know about every single one of them I mean, one of them was so obscure you can't find this name or Wikipedia or anything about them There've been many episodes like that actually and so I love that balance But I will be honest those are usually not Episodes people like them, but they're not always episodes that like we they don't go off the charts because they don't have that name recognition I don't plan to change it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love both
[SPEAKER_02]: Within that the Henry was cool to see both.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was cool to see a name that is he's familiar But he's not as familiar as some of the giants, but he did very you a lot of people were like wow that really connected
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we've talked about Martin Luther a lot on this show every year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually want to come to this time of the year.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have our Luther episode narrating by the very sultry sounds of Brian Wolf Meeler, who we've actually interviewed on this show.
[SPEAKER_01]: We really enjoy his voice.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has an repository of Luther sermons that he's allowed us to use.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're thankful for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's nice to have that reoccurring voice every time we do a Luther episode around Reformation Day.
[SPEAKER_01]: We try to kind of take unique angle on what we want to talk about in regards to Luther and today we're going to focus on his preaching a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Luther grew up a rich person is that one of them to be a lawyer, but during a lightning storm He was in fear for his life, and he swore his life to the church and those early days He was very legalistic and how he saw God as too holy and Unpleasable preaching through Romans It seems like the scriptures kind of worked in him and kind of changed how he saw
[SPEAKER_01]: things and he learned to understand the gospels and grace and this kind of really changed his worldview, how we saw the church, how we understood salvation and some conflicts that he had with the Catholic church, you know, began to arise out of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really hard to identify and wrap your head around how much the Catholic Church controlled everything back then.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and today's day and age, it's pretty easy to go throughout life without ever interacting with a, you know, a religious organization if you want to back then this was not like possible, like the church controlled everything if you wanted to get married.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... you know your wedding was done by the church your burial you know funerals were done by the church your birth you know that was over seen by the church your ties your pilgrimages your education your thrones you know what the leadership that was in charge controlled by the church your after life was controlled by the church everything was controlled by the church
[SPEAKER_01]: and Luther was one of those people that ended up being successful through the grace of God helped change how people understood and with that relationship with the church was like through the event that we often look back on and call the great reformation and he did this not by swinging swords or raising armies but by prayer
[SPEAKER_01]: by translating the Bible so people could read it for themselves, by writing books and by preaching, which is what we're going to be talking a little bit more about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it specifically has preaching I wanted to look at today.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was one really interesting moment where we see Martin Luther the pastor and the preacher change history.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when I told this moment to my wife, at least the host of martyrs and missionaries, she was like, wow, you know, when I think of Martin Luther and when I see the picture of
[SPEAKER_02]: you know here I stand I can do no other and I know that some historians say it didn't go that way but I like that version of it if I'm honest.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when I see this story today kind of goes against that but I really feel like you can see the heart of Martin Luther the pastor the preacher in this story.
[SPEAKER_02]: famously in 1521 Luther is called to the Diet of Worms, he's asked to recant the things he's been saying, he refuses to do so, he is branded a heretic and it looks like he's going to get killed.
[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, the Edict literally said, quote, we want him to be apprehended and punished as an notorious heretic and uh, you know, in quote, and at that time, anyone could kill him, consequence free, at least that's what I read.
[SPEAKER_02]: And to me, that's why, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's not just that the police are after him or the cops of their day are searching for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyone, the guy at the tavern, the man crossing the street, the traveling merchant, anybody can kill him, can stab him, can end his life and it is forgivable because he would be punishing a notorious heritage.
[SPEAKER_02]: That seems to be how the edict is read.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you don't have to drag into a courtroom.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to do any more.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been done.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's already it's over.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anybody who catches him and kills him is forgiven.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's pretty, that's pretty wild to me that that would ever, I mean, it's, it's amazing to think of a church that had a church that can have power like that and do you know it put in the context to say imagine the Baptist putting out like an edict, you know, you can't even picture the Presbyterian, that's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not something that we can picture anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a very different world.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it has scaryness, gotta be.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I put yourself in Luther's shoes.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a very scary moment in your life.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're, you know, he knows the story of John Hus, who came before him by a hundred years and gets killed by the Catholic Church and his movement stalls out.
[SPEAKER_02]: He knows the story of Savanarala, who very different didn't go quite the same way, but again, executed by the church.
[SPEAKER_02]: He knows what happens when your movement dies with you when you fail.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this has to be a very stressful moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Frederick III, he is a very interesting ruler himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: He kind of kidnaps him, and the dark takes him back to his pastoral workburg castle.
[SPEAKER_02]: He Lutheran is kind of forced to live in this very small hidden space.
[SPEAKER_02]: And through that place, he's able to translate the Bible into German so people can read it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it really...
[SPEAKER_02]: The question kind of became if Luther is safe and there's this much danger on him.
[SPEAKER_02]: He knows the risk if you fail everything's over or at least it's going to really set you back.
[SPEAKER_02]: What would it take to get you to come out of that hiding spot?
[SPEAKER_02]: And what brought him out of it really was fascinating to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is what why he comes out of hiding really tells you a lot about his heart.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what would bring Luther out of hiding?
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is a time, again, a Troy was mentioning, anyone can legally kill you during this time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a scary, you know, environment to emerge from knowing that,
[SPEAKER_01]: people could kill you with no repercussions.
[SPEAKER_01]: And people in that area knew he was alive because he was writing documents, he was writing books, he was translating scriptures, and so these works were being circulated.
[SPEAKER_01]: People knew that Luther was hard at work and he was getting stuff done.
[SPEAKER_01]: They just didn't quite know where he was at.
[SPEAKER_01]: And at the same time, while all this is going on,
[SPEAKER_01]: Whittenberg, his church, had been starting to have some issues.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're working through some growing pinch.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's a new reformation church.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got things to figure out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Luther is trying to address these through letters.
[SPEAKER_01]: Issues that the church would have Luther would try to write letters, trying to resolve things, or trying to guide them while hiding away.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it doesn't seem to be enough, you know, like they need more deliberate interaction.
[SPEAKER_01]: So one of these problems was Malanthan.
[SPEAKER_01]: Malanthan, an individual that we've talked a lot about in the show that we've done an episode on.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've actually done a sermon by Malanthan.
[SPEAKER_01]: That sermon actually is the urology of Martin Luther.
[SPEAKER_01]: So these two people were very close.
[SPEAKER_01]: Malanthan is helping run
[SPEAKER_01]: Luther's church in Whittburg, Whittinburg, in Luther's absence, and again, there's a lot of great things to say about Mullington.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a very important person in the Reformation, but it seems like, you know, when it came to leading,
[SPEAKER_01]: Post died of worms.
[SPEAKER_01]: He might he might have just not quite been up to the task.
[SPEAKER_01]: He seems to kind of be fumbling a little bit and these failures in his leadership are beginning to make room for others to step in that are not on the same page as as Luther in the Reformation folks here
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and when we talk about Mullington, when Luther does die quite a bit, I think it's 20 plus years down the road from this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: He also is kind of expected to pick up the mantle for Luther, and it's a bit of a hard moment because he's very different than Luther.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, if I recall correctly, he does.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he does pick up at least a part of that leadership and does much better 20 plus years down the road.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is still very early on, and Mullington just wasn't, he wasn't ready.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, one of those would be leaders that starts to kind of take over the city, or these two guys, Gabrielle is willing and more importantly, another gentleman, Andreas Carldstadt.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I have to be honest as a Protestant, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: uh, pliving 500 years after the Reformation.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to redo the crimes that crawled set, uh, uh, is what, what was his big thing that upset the whole city?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I got to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to feel the same iron that the city of Wittenberg did.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let me redo the things he was against.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was against Catholic icons and, you know, pictures of Mary and Saints and angels and that they were impringing to them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he kind of told the monks to stop it and him and the guys kind of came in and destroyed some of those icons and stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, look, destroying other people's private property obviously is not good.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, I don't...
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I mean to say this, but dealing in their affirmation when things are crazy, heated, people are getting killed, destroying some statues that people are praying to.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, I don't, I don't, I don't lose as much sleeper that maybe as I should, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look at what they do in the Bible to idols, you know, I don't know what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, another one, that it was very upsetting to the people who didn't forget the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: He believed that the Eucharist could be given to commoners.
[SPEAKER_02]: It said the full Eucharist, which I guess meant that they were only giving them part of it like where they only giving them like the bread and not the wine or the wine and not the bread.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if that commenters deserve the full Eucharist, again, I gotta be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I mean, we don't use the current commenters or at least I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe because I am a commenter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there's very elite people out there, upper crest kind of people who would call me a commenter.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so maybe they think I shouldn't have the full Eucharist.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I like having the full communion time, so, you know, they announced you didn't have to go to confession to go to mass, so you can come to church even if you hadn't been to a priest and done confession.
[SPEAKER_02]: Once again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm kind of okay with all that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't upset me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Another thing that they would have a problem with is that he started giving the services in German instead of Latin and he would do so while wearing secular clothing not wearing in the big Catholic priestly robe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, not something I would lose a lot of sleep over.
[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, I have preached before and I have to be honest.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never worn any of the robes, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a casual preacher for our listeners.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm not like, you know flip flops.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you wouldn't turn down a sermon if you were in flip flops.
[SPEAKER_02]: You see, okay, that's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: If the Lord gives you an opportunity to preach in season and out of season, I'll step up to that pulpit.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like a ruddling guy in my dress shoes.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't wear Hawaiian shirts, but that's how I would describe it, a Hawaiian shirt.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely, I want to push back on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am not the Hawaiian shirt, Richard.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say, you know, part of it is where I live overseas.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, when I was in Cambodia, I mean, we were preachy outside and plastic tears with monkeys, sometimes interrupting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was very casual, and it's still, it just, when you're in the islands out in the world, things are a bit more casual.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say, um,
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I, one of the biggest posts I've ever made on the internet, and this is like, it got thousands of responses.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had people messaging me, like saying, like, is this you?
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw this in like a, you know, a reformed Christian home screen group, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Saw this on Instagram.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was just a question.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you walked into church and your pastor was in flip-flops, what would you do?
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was,
[SPEAKER_02]: just and it was maybe inspired by something I had seen and I wondered what the world would think and it was very interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Once again, we're way off.
[SPEAKER_02]: We already have a really long script, but we need to quickly do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: He also wrote finalizing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wrote a call set.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wrote on the removal of images and that there should be no beggars among Christians that came out around Christmas that year.
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, removing icons and Christians shouldn't have beggars around.
[SPEAKER_02]: They should take care of the poor.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I gotta say, I feel like I like a lot of what Carltset's saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Frederick III, the guy who stayed Martin Luther, did not.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, it looks like it's going too far in Whitmanburg.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he asks Luther, you know, what can you do to stop it?
[SPEAKER_02]: And Luther himself was like, you know, a lot of the theology here is pretty good.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's still writing to Carltset, trying to fix it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's kind of right to him and say, like, you're going too fast, too soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: The world isn't ready for this level of change yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Luther was right, if I can just kind of finish Carl set story.
[SPEAKER_02]: When eventually Luther comes out of hiding, Carl set will end up leaving.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'll totally ditch his fancy clothes.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'll wear peasant clothes.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'll renounce all of his degrees.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had like three different degrees from universities.
[SPEAKER_02]: He like rejects them all.
[SPEAKER_02]: He starts telling people to call him brother, brother, Andreas.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'll set like a congregational model up of churches, which I don't know how problem with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And his church they'll start Mary and clerics way before a lot of the other reformers do they'll stop baptizing infants way before the other reformers do They'll he'll be one of the first people to say communion is not the actual blood of Jesus again He's he's ahead of the curve and he's kind of too far ahead of the curtain Again, I sympathize with the guy because I'm like I all of those things.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm with you But he's way ahead of where everyone else is at and it causes things to kind of pick up too quickly
[SPEAKER_02]: And the peasants and the people are overwhelmed by the changes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And also his preaching against the rich.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it leads, I think one of the direct, it really helps feed into the peasant revolts that devastate Germany.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did a whole episode on Martin Luther.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was three or four years ago just talking about the peasant revolts and how much Luther's reformation.
[SPEAKER_02]: What it would be like to know, I think it was 100,000 peasants died in those things.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as a person, like, what would it be like to know
[SPEAKER_02]: you helped lead to that somehow even though it wasn't your intention.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Carl's that's ideas were pushing it like his very radical reformation at the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can things we would agree with today for the most part but very radical in their era really helped where it was logs on that fire that just eventually took off and started burning too much, too quickly.
[SPEAKER_02]: and uh... cross that would go to Luther he would write a letter to him and say Luther like i need help this things out of control they're trying to kill me that it it's out of control and Luther would bring this guy into his house and would hide him for two months it where's cost that in Luther uh...
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got him hiding in his house.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like they mended their relationship, Luther asked him to write an apology for some of the stuff he'd said about him and Carl sat did and They had a good enough relationship that when Carl sat's wife gave birth to a child She asked Luther's wife to be the godmother to that child.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, that's a pretty crazy story going from enemies that are fighting over a town
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, to, you're the canier, canier wife for the godmother to our child.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it even goes further to, I feel like Carl really has like a true redemption arc in his life because after this time period when the rep revolt is over, he goes off and just is a farmer for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a kind of, then he becomes like a traveling door to door salesman.
[SPEAKER_02]: And after a few years of that, he feels the call by God that go back into preaching.
[SPEAKER_02]: He goes and kind of just preaches for a while to church.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then eventually, a college university like invite someone says, hey, we need a dean and a professor of Hebrew, would you come over to us and do that?
[SPEAKER_02]: And so this guy who once renounced his degrees basically rejected everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: isn't it goes and becomes a dean of a school in a professor of Hebrew.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, wow, he really full circled.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't, and it was just a cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen an, like, a redemption arc story like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: He would almost like, it sounds almost TV of a movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's like, just the perfect, like, wow, he really full circled.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was just a school.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really weird to think about because our culture is such that we would never really be in a situation like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: But to think of one where the change that you want to implement is a good change.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Biblical, you know what the way current things are being done or unbiblical.
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to move away from the unbiblical ways and do things that are more biblical But again, I was I was saying at the top of the show the amount of control and structure that the Catholic Church had on every facet of life made that transition quite Jarring like it was it was it was really hard for people to wrap their headrun and it so much so that as for I mentioned here
[SPEAKER_01]: A peasants revolt like like a conflict in which thousands of people are dying tens of thousands of people are dying and The answer seemed to be Take it slower.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know like like we need to find it a better easier way to transition these ideas into the mass public
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is a weird thing to think about, is the best thing to do to not do the biblical thing all that was, you know, like this weird, yeah, because hard, because it doesn't seem difficult to do it that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I've never seen, I've never seen anybody do it like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, you know, usually it's like, whoa, we have a problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's completely one 80 into the correct direction and again, like you on paper, I agree with Carl Statt, but you know, it reminds me of when you get hired as a pastor at any kind of church a lot of times, at least live heard this advice was like, change things but change them slowly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't move too fast.
[SPEAKER_02]: You may be completely correct in the direction that the church needs to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: You may see clearly the problems that need to be there.
[SPEAKER_02]: but the people take longer to get there.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're used to things being a certain way and it is it's unloving if you move too quickly.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good, that's a good kind of illustration there, yeah, like a pastor taking over our new church, but yeah, I mean, imagine being in that situation where you want people to honor and serve God the way that God calls them to, but because of your guidance in that area, people are dying, you don't want people to die, and so you're forced to kind of
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, you compromise just sounds like such a dirty word there when you're talking about, yeah, following the Lord, but like that was the situation that they were in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Karlstadt wasn't the only one that was causing a ruckus during this time, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Arguably the bigger one was a group called the Zvikau profits, and the Zvikau profits were led by these three guys that, you know, it does seem pretty cold to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every generation, every era of history seems to have their own version of your Apocalypse fringe groups, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that the end is near, the end is now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We kind of think that that is unique to our era, but honestly our era that we live in currently is pretty chill compared to a lot of these areas in history.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, 1500s, not any different.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and so years of it out, profits and their followers thought that the ending was coming any day now and that everyone had to be ready right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and this was like one of those right nows that caused people to not bother with education.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know, like it would eventually get to that point as more and more followers is more and more visions and dreams come to the leaders.
[SPEAKER_01]: that they interpret showing that the end times are near.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's similar movements to this that we also see the wall, well, denzians are also kind of active at and around this time.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is a real issue just kind of socially logistically because there are cities, kind of groups in the areas of Europe that are, you know, the schools are shutting down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Work itself is coming to stops in some,
[SPEAKER_01]: areas because they're getting ready for the end, and towns are fighting with these new radical leaders.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, people that don't want, does that be what they don't want?
[SPEAKER_01]: These people there, there's these skirmishes and conflicts that are now happening with the profits.
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like they were largely accused of this kind of proto-communist movement.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ideas that they would establish in their communities that they had popping up all around.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of, and 1500s in Central Europe is a crazy time to be alive.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't imagine how confusing it must be for an average Joe, just trying to figure out what is going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's these profits.
[SPEAKER_01]: Luther's preaching, you know, there's peasants revolting, what is the church is really angry, what is going on with everything going on everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's funny to me to how, I mean, because you look at the, you know, we have this protocombinous movement kind of over here, let's take from the ridge through everything apart.
[SPEAKER_02]: The voice of God is speaking.
[SPEAKER_02]: We see it happen again with the Antibaptist in Munster as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a few movements like that, but they kind of, it is weird how often a guy will start saying, I'm hearing from God and like a very protocombinous thing, because if you listen to our part one and part two of the typing rebellion in China, it's
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the same story, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: A guy thinks he's getting special visions from God.
[SPEAKER_02]: And before you know it, his people are stealing from the rich and it's wild how comment that is a problem for people.
[SPEAKER_02]: And to answer all of the things going on in Whitmanburg, Malinkthin and the Council of Whitmanburg, Asluther, Can you come and help us out?
[SPEAKER_02]: We, your books and writings are helpful, but it's not enough.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need you to be here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and Frederick III is he's becoming more impatient, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, is he going to send an army to Quill?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's happening?
[SPEAKER_02]: Does he see what's happening?
[SPEAKER_02]: And went and bird, becoming a riot.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, before you think that's kind of a small threat, remember, there's a peasant revolt going to happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Only a year or two after this is a huge thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are actually a lot of riots to happen in this era.
[SPEAKER_02]: They happen in the Netherlands, they happen in central Europe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you look at the riots and revolts and things that are happening through because of the Protestant reformation, it is an aspect of the Protestant reformation, though when we talk about it, we don't really talk about the violence that was caused from all this division and how hard that was on the people that, you know, it just, it's several people died because of what was going on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: You put it that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so Luther comes to Wittenberg and gathers together the church.
[SPEAKER_02]: He leaves his hiding spot and he brings them together for a special eight days sermon series.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to preach through some scriptures.
[SPEAKER_02]: over the course of eight days in a row.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's going to come together.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's so important because Wittenberg at this point had a literally ground to a stand that still.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, before he got there, people weren't working because of this crazy idea that we're going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: The schools had stopped happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, with the city was truly falling apart and Luther shows up.
[SPEAKER_02]: and preaches these sermons and he preaches the importance of love being what guides us that the scripture should be our foundation that many of these people You know, you would say you kind of like you would put in there like I I may agree We're you know a lot of what these guys are thinking is true, but loving God and our fellow man You know really emphasizing we have to move at the speed that they can handle
[SPEAKER_02]: and we're going way too fast too much as happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's tipping everything over and are we even sure we're right about what we're moving on?
[SPEAKER_02]: He emphasized the differences between what he called the must and what you're free to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are certain things you must do.
[SPEAKER_02]: You must believe in Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_02]: You must stand firm on his word.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then there are things you couldn't debate a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we shouldn't treat those things that we debate more as a must because when we do, it leads to major problems like Whittenberg was having.
[SPEAKER_02]: And these eight sermons, sometimes have been called the Reformation of the Reformation sermons, like reforming the reformer as almost.
[SPEAKER_01]: Reformation of the reformers, that's a great, that's a great way to describe it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The effects of these sermons, thankfully, were powerful, like we were effective.
[SPEAKER_01]: People began to calm down, call stat, ended up leaving town, and many of these controversies ended up dying off, kind of from this time,
[SPEAKER_01]: condemning the violence, you know, that's going on and he says, quote, do you know what the devil thinks when he sees men using violence to propagate the gospel?
[SPEAKER_01]: He sits with folded arms behind the fires of hell and with a frightful grin and says, ah,
[SPEAKER_01]: How wise these mad men are to play my game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let them go on.
[SPEAKER_01]: I shall reap the benefit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I delight in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But when he sees the word, running and contending alone on the battlefield, then he shutters and shakes for fear, in quote.
[SPEAKER_01]: People were very happy, Luther was back.
[SPEAKER_01]: They really loved this sermon series.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was the change that was needed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, the change that was good, but not so fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: That did upset everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a loving way to seek change.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was one, went, went and burgian, went and burgian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what you call someone that lives in burger right wouldn't be a wooden burger in what do you call someone that that's a resonant though Like that that is a part of that that place.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a wooden burger.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so a wind burger one wooden burger Yes, I can't be wouldn't burger to do that's to me
[SPEAKER_01]: It has to be a Whitton Virgarian.
[SPEAKER_01]: When Whitton Virgarian says, Oh, what a joy it has been to have Dr. Martin return.
[SPEAKER_01]: And spread among us.
[SPEAKER_01]: His words through Divine Mercy are bringing back every day misguided people into the way of the truth.
[SPEAKER_01]: End quote.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, what a nice scene to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I got to say that quote about the devil.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm putting the script together and stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: But even just hearing it again, it is a powerful quote.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there are people in the world today that I want to send that as a quote to them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, hey, violence is not helping.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not in the devil is happy when he sees people basically saying the violent is the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, I think, a powerful quote.
[SPEAKER_02]: The way he words it, the malignant fires of hell behind the devil's smiling.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a really, it's a really good one.
[SPEAKER_02]: One line another line in these sermons that in the sermon that stood out to me that I really thought was a good one In these sermons, sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: We also must have love and through love We must do to one another as God has done to us through faith and have you not grievously failed?
[SPEAKER_02]: I see no signs of love among you Just try to imagine your pastor comes out of hiding he's been gone for 10 months They wanted him for murder.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's alive.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's back.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna say the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: I see no love.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like you
[SPEAKER_02]: That must have stung.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he could have come back and said anything and he went with that one.
[SPEAKER_02]: It worked.
[SPEAKER_02]: This this tough love, but also faithful loving approach to calm the Reformation down worked.
[SPEAKER_02]: As I said, it was a side of Martin Luther.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't think we're used to.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are listening to the very first of those eight sermons that he preached.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the starter when you haven't seen him yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: You the first time you're seeing old pastor Luther getting up in the church in about a year.
[SPEAKER_02]: You thought last time you saw him, he thought he was going to die maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was last time you'd seen him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And here he is and this is the sermon he opens up with.
[SPEAKER_00]: When Jesus was led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted to the devil, and when he had fasted 40 days and 40 nights, he was afterward a hungerd.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when the Timter came to him, he said, if thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he answered and said, it is written, man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that Procedeth out of the mouth of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then the devil take it them up into the holy city and set it them on a pinnacle of the temple and say it unto him, if thou be the Son of God cast thyself down.
[SPEAKER_00]: For it is written, he shall give his angels charge concerning thee, and in their hands they shall bear the uplest at any time thou dashed thy foot against the stone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jesus said unto him, it is written again, thou shall not tempt the Lord thy God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, the devil takeeth him up onto an exceeding high mountain and showeth him all the kingdoms of the world and the glory of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And sayeth unto him, all these things I will give thee, if thou will fall down and worship me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then sayeth Jesus unto him, get the hints Satan, for it is written, thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shout out serve.
[SPEAKER_00]: Luther's sermon.
[SPEAKER_00]: We learned from this gospel how the Lord Jesus subsequently to his baptism was tempted in a threefold manner, after having been without food forty days and forty nights in the wilderness.
[SPEAKER_00]: According to the account given of this occurrence by St. Luke, these temptations continued throughout the forty days so that he was molested by each one for several days, and perhaps not in the same order in which Matthew mentions them.
[SPEAKER_00]: This gospel is exceedingly comprehensive, especially when implied to the entire Christian church, which is also tried by hunger and persecution, by heresies and the kingdoms of the world as can be plainly seen in all her history.
[SPEAKER_00]: We will, however, at this time, not enter into such excessive consideration of the text, but simply learn from it a few practical lessons.
[SPEAKER_00]: The experience of Christ after his baptism shall teach us in the first place how every Christian after he is baptized is enrolled in the army fighting against the crafty devil who makes frequent attacks and stirs up persecutions all the days of our life.
[SPEAKER_00]: If this bitter enemy does not succeed with his afflictions and temptations to overcome Christians, he seeks to hang them upon the cross and to murder them as he did Christ.
[SPEAKER_00]: this peril threatens all Christians.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nor ought we to expect anything else.
[SPEAKER_00]: If he did not spare Christ but attacked him so persistently, he will much less spare us, whom he knows to be weak and unprepared.
[SPEAKER_00]: We should therefore be ready to meet this danger when it comes and learn of Christ how to repel the enemy.
[SPEAKER_00]: This however can only be done through faith in God and His Word.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we put on this armor and use it properly, we are secure against the devil and his attacks.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if we have it not, or our ignorant of its use, we are hopelessly lost, and will become a prey to our deadly enemy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every Christian should therefore earnestly read the word of God, and hear it preached, so as he may become well acquainted with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Besides, we ought to pray incessantly to God, to let his kingdom come to us, and lead us
[SPEAKER_00]: We've read in our gospel that Jesus was led up of the Spirit into the wilderness.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is, the Holy Ghost brought him to there.
[SPEAKER_00]: This record is made by the evangelist to caution against all self-imposed service.
[SPEAKER_00]: For Christ did not go into the desert by his own will, nor for the purpose of spending his time there and worship been in conflict with the devil as many as now attempt to do without any divine command whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: This ought not to be done.
[SPEAKER_00]: No one should undertake to serve God in a peculiar way unless He is convinced that God is called Him to do so, either by His word or by means of men who have, according to God's will, authority over us.
[SPEAKER_00]: He who does this without a proper call, as the monks and nuns do who run into convents, does not only not serve God, but acts in direct opposition to His will.
[SPEAKER_00]: That Christ did not go into the wilderness of His own accord, but was led up by the spirit as a fact of the greatest importance and should be well remembered.
[SPEAKER_00]: We should imitate this example, and never do anything through an impulse of our own feelings, but what we do must ever be done in obedience to the word and command of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let us always first ascertain whether God orders us to do a thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when we are a short of this, then let us diligently do it and do nothing without his word.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the general duties and works of love need no new command.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are already laid down in order in the ten commandments.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are all adjoined of God to hear His word, to love Him, to pray to Him, to be obedient to our parents, to love our neighbor, to shun all the silliestness and to hold matrimony in high esteem.
[SPEAKER_00]: All this is God's will in its tutuction, therefore no a special call of the Holy Spirit to enter into matrimony, to become father or mother is needed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Such matters have all been arranged and commanded of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: but we know we're fine to command or word of God which would demand of us to run into cloisters for the purpose of serving God, or to avoid eating meat, eggs, or butter during a linden season, or to sing no alleluia in that time, and therefore all such observances are no true service of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: We will now consider the temptations in their order.
[SPEAKER_00]: The first one takes place when the devil, seeing that Christ wasn't hungry to tell
[SPEAKER_00]: This would seem to be no severe temptation.
[SPEAKER_00]: How could it have been wrong for Christ to make bread out of stones?
[SPEAKER_00]: Did he not often perform greater miracles?
[SPEAKER_00]: True.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Christ did not comply with the will of the devil because he knew well what the meaning of such language was.
[SPEAKER_00]: The devil did not care to have a miracle performed, but as Christ indicates in his answer, he desired to rob the Lord of his faith and confidence in the mercy of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to implant into his heart the thought, God has forgotten and forsaken thee.
[SPEAKER_00]: He will not even give the apiece of bread and will let the die of hunger.
[SPEAKER_00]: hence the Lord replies, nonsense devil.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is written.
[SPEAKER_00]: Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: The purport of the devil's insinuation is to make the care for daily bread that sheath concern in life to the utter neglect of the word of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: This perversionous prevails in our day, and the devil is ever busy putting it into the hearts of men such thoughts as these.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we are children of God, He cannot be offended at us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let us therefore keep on hoarding up our treasures, and engage with our whole energy in worldly pursuits.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let us give nobody anything of what we have, but keep all for ourselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: This cannot be a misnores sin.
[SPEAKER_00]: God would be an unmerciful and unkind father if he would not allow us to enjoy our bread and together it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Such reasoning causes many a farmer and tradesmen and mechanic to become miserly hypocrites.
[SPEAKER_00]: They continue in their evracious dealings, supposing that God will not be displeased with their conduct, since they are engaged in securing their daily bread and support.
[SPEAKER_00]: Each one excuses himself with a thought that he must provide for his wife and children, etc.
[SPEAKER_00]: The devil attempts to cover the wrong with the statement, though art is son of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: He means to say, it is impossible for thee to sin or to make a mistake.
[SPEAKER_00]: The world is everywhere so disposed that it does not care for the word.
[SPEAKER_00]: If only it has bread and raim it, hence this temptation to make the word of no account and to urge people to strive after their bread with such a vidity that everything else is forgotten is the most common and the most successful.
[SPEAKER_00]: One must therefore be ready to withstand such temptations and to say, Devil, that shall not deceive me nor steal the word of God away from me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would rather lose my bread and die of hunger than to be in want of the word of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: For it is better that the body, which is nourished by the bread, should perish, than that the soul should be eternally lost.
[SPEAKER_00]: The devil earnestly endeavours to prevent such determination, way lays us with his afflictions and strenuously labors to make us forgetful of the Word of God, and careful only for our bellies under the specious pretense that God our Father desires us to have and to enjoy food and rame it.
[SPEAKER_00]: An effective weapon against this temptation is the knowledge of the fact which Christ here mentions that there are two kinds of bread.
[SPEAKER_00]: The other and inferior is our daily bread, this grows for us on earth.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I am well supplied with a former, with a good bread of heaven, and firmly adhere to it, my daily bread shall not be wanting as long as I am in need of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sooner would stones turn into bread.
[SPEAKER_00]: They, however, who have discarded the heavenly food and busy themselves only for temporal supplies, when they have their fill, lie down and die.
[SPEAKER_00]: Their money and farms and goods they cannot eat, but must leave them all behind, while they would endure everlasting hunger.
[SPEAKER_00]: It should not be thus.
[SPEAKER_00]: If therefore the devil torments us with persecutions and wants with hunger and sorrow, we should suffer patiently and fast as Christ did, because it is God's will.
[SPEAKER_00]: But never should we lose our confidence and faith in Him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then will the blessed angels come to set tables for us as we read in the conclusion of our gospel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thus we learn from this first temptation to esteem the Word of God most highly, to believe in it, and to rely on it in times of want and adversity, when thoughts are apt to arise as if God were offended and determined to help us no more.
[SPEAKER_00]: Amid such trials we can find no consolation except in the Word of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: There we have true bread and nourishment.
[SPEAKER_00]: quote, he who eateth of this bread that is whoever believeeth in the word has eternal life in him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let us never forget this.
[SPEAKER_00]: On the other hand, the food which this world gives and after which men are so greedy is of short duration and vanishes with death.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eternal hunger will follow if man does not while in this world provide himself through faith with that imperishable food, the Word of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: The devil take it them up to the Holy City, and set it them on the pinnacle of the temple, and say it unto him, if thou be the Son of God cast thyself down, for it is written, he shall give his angels charge concerning thee.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is, because thou art the Son of God no evil can be for all thee, for the angels will be sent forth to prevent it.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a severe and spiritual temptation of faith, which is here assaulted from another direction
[SPEAKER_00]: If the devil cannot produce despondency by presenting to us our sins and the wrath of God, he tries his seductive arts and making us reckless, proud, and presumptuous.
[SPEAKER_00]: The devil comes here with the challenge.
[SPEAKER_00]: If thou desires to dispute with me from the word of God, well and good, I am ready.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will show the adeclaration from this word, here it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He shall give his angels charge concerning thee.
[SPEAKER_00]: They must construct a ladder for thee, and bear the up in their hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: We must regard Christ in this connection as a man, who has his divinity concealed in his humanity.
[SPEAKER_00]: As he hangs upon the cross, a man in reality full of infermity, sorrowing and crying for help and release, we also see him here, a real man, with the infermities attending the human nature.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hence the devil thought he could persuade Christ to tempt God by the performance of a useless miracle.
[SPEAKER_00]: for this purpose he cites the 91st Psalm as a proof of the propriety of his demand, but he omits the most important expression in visus tois.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Lord shall keep thee in all thy ways.
[SPEAKER_00]: The day he thought he could with this quotation perplexed Christ and had do some to do what he was not commanded.
[SPEAKER_00]: For Christ is now in the wilderness not to perform miracles, but in a state of humiliation as a man destined to suffer.
[SPEAKER_00]: The devil, in view of this fact, proposes to seduce Christ from his path of duty to performance of an unnecessary miracle.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Christ understands the scheme and says,
[SPEAKER_00]: He tells him, here are the steps in stairway where for it is entirely unnecessary that I should leap down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Since I can descend by means of the stairs, it would be wrong to put myself in danger without necessity and without the command of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: We must heed here this important lesson.
[SPEAKER_00]: that he who departs from the ordinary way of his calling, and attempts to do something new and peculiar, without having the command of God to do so, tempts God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Monks and nuns act thus when they out of their own accord, select for themselves a peculiar mode of living, saying that Christ had ordered them to do so when he says, leave all and follow me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thus it would appear.
[SPEAKER_00]: that they had scripture in their favor.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we see in our gospel that the devil is also versed in scriptures and thus deceives people.
[SPEAKER_00]: The great defect in his quotations is that he does not give them entire, but only so much as suits his purpose as to the remainder he is silent and rejection.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Antibaptists do the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They quote much scripture to prove that we are not to rely upon anything created.
[SPEAKER_00]: Baptism, they say, is a created thing for it is water merely therefore we dare not have faith in it or any confidence whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_00]: They will not believe that the grace of God is in baptism unless they can touch it with their fists.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have the scriptures, but the mischief is that they do not use them properly.
[SPEAKER_00]: If the Word of God did not state distinctly, except a man be born of water and the spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God, it would of course be false to look for the grace of God in baptism.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Word of God is explicit in this when it declares, he that believeeth and is baptized shall be saved.
[SPEAKER_00]: faith and baptism, the word and the water belong together and they're not be separated.
[SPEAKER_00]: This however these blind people cannot perceive.
[SPEAKER_00]: Christ answers the devil in regard to his quotation from Scripture.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am well aware that the angels of God will be my companions and that they will defend and protect me as long as I follow the way which God has marked out for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: When parents fulfill their duties, when man servants are made servants perform their prescribed laborers, God will defend them all from the threatening danger through his holy angels.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if they go astray, there will be no angels there to protect them.
[SPEAKER_00]: The devil can easily break their necks in any hour of the day, as the providence of God often permits, and it is just right for them too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why did they tempt God and go up on their own self-chosen pathway?
[SPEAKER_00]: No one can understand this temptation, who has not experienced it.
[SPEAKER_00]: As the first tends to desperation, so this leads to fool hardiness, and to deeds which have no word or command of God in their favor.
[SPEAKER_00]: A Christian must endeavor to avoid these two extremes.
[SPEAKER_00]: He ought not to despair nor should he be recklessly ventures, but should cling under all circumstances in full confidence and faith to the word and promises of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: The holy angels will then be with us, otherwise not.
[SPEAKER_00]: The third temptation is a mere tradutio-humanam, excessively gross and palpable.
[SPEAKER_00]: The devil attempts to lead into idolatry by offering honor and temporal power.
[SPEAKER_00]: This temptation gains much strength from the fact that external holiness is so much admired by our reason, and glitters much more enchantingly than simply obedience to the Word of
[SPEAKER_00]: The Pope regards matrimony as unholy, also the bringing up of children in their instruction in the duties and obedience and in industry.
[SPEAKER_00]: While he is very much delighted and considers it most saintly and meritorious, if one puts on a grailed coat and hood, if he lives differently from other people and refrains from eating meat on Friday, if he fasts and make pilgrimages, etc.
[SPEAKER_00]: These practices throw a halo of sanctity around one head so that kings and imparers bow before it with reverence.
[SPEAKER_00]: Such forced piety and self-made sanctity are the glory of the Pope.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he and his followers wish to be peculiar to be like other people who would be too common for them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Therefore they greatly praise him who runs into a cloister and becomes a monk, as they say, and a special servant of God, seeking neither gold nor possessions in his absolute seclusion from the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Such praises are bestowed upon a monkish life, although they are entirely undeserved as everybody knows.
[SPEAKER_00]: In short, this is a most fiendest temptation.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a false holiness, and doesn't know why serve God, whom only as Christ is as we
[SPEAKER_00]: If we do not serve God alone, we certainly serve the devil, who may indeed often reward in the manner proposed by him to Christ with luxury and ease with rich incomes and great dominion.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we desire to serve God, we must do his will as revealed in his word.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we are children, we must honor Father and Mother.
[SPEAKER_00]: If servants, we must be obedient and faithful to our masters.
[SPEAKER_00]: If masters or mistresses, we ought not to offend our domestics and word or deed, but should endeavor to do what is commonly in, promote of a piety.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thus will we serve God and not men.
[SPEAKER_00]: His word demands all of this, of us, and if the world should call this a service of masters, of parents or of children, of neighbors or friends, it matters not.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is nevertheless a true service of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: He Himself has said, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
[SPEAKER_00]: The devil has taught the Pope to disregard this command, and to attribute special holiness to a great coat, to the abstinence from butter and meat, and to the eating of oil and harring during the season of lent.
[SPEAKER_00]: God has given no such ordinances, such things have nothing to do with true piety, just as little as a playhouse of children could be called a palace.
[SPEAKER_00]: We cannot serve God except by obedience to His Word.
[SPEAKER_00]: where this is wanting with its demands, we do that, which is our own invention, and oppose the will of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hence we cannot hope for a reward from God.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says unto us, I did not tell you to do these things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some devil must have incited you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let him reward you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, the Lord, have commanded you to love unto a bear parat and superior to do good to your neighbors.
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead of that, you do what I have not ordained, and thus rebel against my regulations.
[SPEAKER_00]: This I will not regard as serving me.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Pope and his followers are therefore simply idolaters and servants of the devil.
[SPEAKER_00]: They not only despise the word, but also persecute it, while they claim to be wholly on account of their observances, their hoods and taunchers, their fasting and masses and similar arrangements.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nor will they be corrected in this.
[SPEAKER_00]: The devil has shown and promised them the kingdoms of this world, therefore they mock at us in our worship.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are regarded as beggars and outcasts, while they greatly exalt themselves and their church customs from which they deprive much honor, wealth, and power so that the Pope has become a mightier Lord than kings and emperors.
[SPEAKER_00]: From this is his evident, how the devil has taken hold of him with his temptations.
[SPEAKER_00]: We ought always to meet the devil's temptations, as Christ did, with the ready and firm response, get the henceed Satan, for it is written, thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shout out serve.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is, we should look only to the God's word for instruction, and obey it, and obey it.
[SPEAKER_00]: We will institute no other worship than that which it's teaches.
[SPEAKER_00]: Since we may at all times meet with these three temptations, we should learn from the word of God how to defend ourselves against them.
[SPEAKER_00]: We must see to it that the care for our daily bread does not rob us of our faith, that we do not become indifferent to our safety by a false hope of security.
[SPEAKER_00]: And finally, that neither money nor wealth may seduce us from the true worship of God.
[SPEAKER_00]: but that we may remain firm in our faith and in the fear of the Lord.
[SPEAKER_00]: May Christ our Savior, who in our behalf endured these temptations and prevailed against them, give also strength and ability through Him to overcome them and to obtain eternal life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Amen.
[SPEAKER_02]: As I said, a side of Martin Luther, you have, we don't always necessarily talk about Martin Luther, the reformer, Martin Luther, the writer, Martin Luther, the leader, but also Martin Luther, the pastor, willing to preach the truth, he's tough on his people, he's challenging them to live for Jesus and kind of calling them out that have not been living for Jesus.
[SPEAKER_02]: What a powerful and effective moment, but also what made him come out of hiding, what made him come out.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Reformation was going too far, even though a lot of it he kind of agreed with that I think, not all of it, but some of it for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was going too far too fast and he needed to calm it down.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so often when I see Martin Luther today, he's kind of used as a symbol of stand for true thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go that extra mile and it's true he did absolutely did stand for true thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go the extra mile.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he also knew when to slow things down to the pace that people were actually able to
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's an interesting side of Luther I had never seen before, and I just appreciated this whole thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just been really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was, you know, when we've done what is at seven, eight, nine episodes.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've interviewed Brian Wolfmieler and one of those episodes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we've talked about Martin Luther in so many ways, and I really appreciate respect so much of what he's done.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this was, it was really cool to discover a whole new side of him and a whole new,
[SPEAKER_02]: really important story in his life that I had really, for the most part, was unfamiliar with.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I, this was a really fun episode to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for listening to today's episode of Revive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thoughts that his sermon was narrated by Brian Wolf Mueller.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can take in from his many archival works of Luther recording.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's definitely check him out if you want to hear more.
[SPEAKER_01]: More of Luther is the great source of that.
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