[SPEAKER_03]: He's political.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, radical.
[SPEAKER_00]: You think it's a far away, we won the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_03]: The shots meant Pearson, Jodie Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_09]: Jodie's out today, she knows who's here.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know who's here?
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, wait.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's Jared Jerry, our favorite White House and Capitol Hill correspondent is in the building hanging out with you and me for the night.
[SPEAKER_09]: How you doing, man?
[SPEAKER_06]: I am great.
[SPEAKER_06]: I am surprised, frankly, that you are not dehydrated after what I assume was a very busy celebration day yesterday.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was very, very...
[SPEAKER_06]: You don't even want to be about this.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hey, it's an amazing excited.
[SPEAKER_09]: I was excited.
[SPEAKER_09]: We were all excited about the wins.
[SPEAKER_09]: We will talk a little bit about the election recap.
[SPEAKER_09]: Have a little bit more to clean up on that course.
[SPEAKER_06]: We are mopping Sean off the floor.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if you know.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's no mobbing, no mobbing needed right now.
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, we aim to please they aim to really they do.
[SPEAKER_09]: So anyway, look, we will clean a few things up a little bit later.
[SPEAKER_09]: We also have some court cases.
[SPEAKER_09]: The war in the courts is going on and Trump is, L-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h
[SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, we got some clean up on that.
[SPEAKER_09]: We have some immigration stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's stuff in the immigration wars.
[SPEAKER_09]: We'll get to that as well.
[SPEAKER_09]: Couple of great guests today by the way for all of you who are joining us here in the bar.
[SPEAKER_09]: In fact, if your join is from wherever you happen to be, whether that is WCPT AMA 20 in Chicago or Georgia now radio and the ATL.
[SPEAKER_09]: Maybe you're listening on detour talk in Tennessee, or AM950, Minneapolis Saint Paul, or maybe maybe you're listening somewhere else in the world on progressive voices radio worldwide, or maybe you're smart and you're listening on the podcast and Jared and I are talking to you in the future.
[SPEAKER_09]: Future people.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: I still wish that the future people would send us back to DeLorean, but that's, you know, that doesn't appear again.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, those selfish, you know,
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, but maybe they could change their ways between now and then.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're just, we'll give him a chance.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, you know.
[SPEAKER_09]: If has the, the, all-manac, okay, he is, he was re-elected.
[SPEAKER_09]: I love that movie.
[SPEAKER_09]: So does Jared, if you have not seen the back of the future movies, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_06]: It's only been 40 years, okay?
[SPEAKER_06]: You've had time.
[SPEAKER_09]: There are some great movies coming back.
[SPEAKER_09]: Joni noticed earlier this week, they're gonna make a mummy for.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we've got it in the entertainment section of the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_09]: In case anyone's not bisexual yet, the mummy part for her.
[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hey, look, they're fun actors.
[SPEAKER_09]: I can dig it.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's gonna be Rachel and Brendan.
[SPEAKER_09]: So they're gonna be doing that.
[SPEAKER_09]: But also, they're doing a Gremlins 3 and Steven Spielberg is heading the project.
[SPEAKER_09]: No kidding.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's a good.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, that's a we got that in the entertainment section, but we got a lot of news to talk about in the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_09]: Thank you by the way for all of you are subscribed for free to the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_09]: All right, so let's start out with the Trump Republican shutdown.
[SPEAKER_09]: You got any anybody you know going on a trip steward any airline trips lately, because
[SPEAKER_06]: I think about 10% fewer people than I thought, I do think, I do think Jared is right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Here's what I'll say, I think if you have some mega family that you are not looking forward to seeing over the holidays or Thanksgiving or the December holidays, that's great.
[SPEAKER_06]: You've got a truly gift-rapt excuse to not visit them.
[SPEAKER_06]: and the busy months of November and December.
[SPEAKER_09]: Look at his Jared is a problem soccer folks.
[SPEAKER_09]: He just solved that problem for you right there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, no joke.
[SPEAKER_09]: It is in the news on tap first story in the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_09]: The Trump FAA is reducing air traffic by forcibly cutting flights 10% across 40 high volume markets.
[SPEAKER_09]: Due to the government shutdown there starting here at the DC end of the bar where Jared and I are they're also hitting L.A. New York Seattle Atlanta, Miami pretty much if you're in a major city in the United States.
[SPEAKER_09]: Congratulations enjoy what they already have in Houston.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think I heard six hour weights down there at Houston International.
[SPEAKER_06]: fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, I remember they used to pay air traffic control.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm old enough to remember.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_06]: That is.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, friend of mine.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, my is actually going on his first flight in a very long time today.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I was like, oh, we wish him luck.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, this is today.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're going today.
[SPEAKER_06]: Good.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, it's just like you remember it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Go.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's like a friend of mine who this was a well, actually.
[SPEAKER_09]: She became an acquaintance later, but she was a math teacher.
[SPEAKER_09]: Really harsh math teacher like literally like she made people cry in her class.
[SPEAKER_09]: She had meat hooks on the walls given by the way.
[SPEAKER_09]: Many of us had older siblings who'd gone through her class and they put meat.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, math is really different in Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_06]: They teach it different, you know what I'm like.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, before she would hand out tests, she would walk around to everybody, just quietly handing out the test.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, this is the meat hook on the wall teacher.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then she'd right before the test starts, she'd say, good luck and have fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, to your friend who's flying today, good luck and have fun genuinely scared about the future.
[SPEAKER_06]: And now also the past of the American education system.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, you know, hey, look, you know, you better solve it or else.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: You weren't your mathematics real quick that way, I guess.
[SPEAKER_06]: We have Lindemock, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now, but we you have Ronald McDonald, I mean, secretary of education.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, ketchup was a vegetable for most of your childhood.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is true of this is true of this is true.
[SPEAKER_09]: But federal workers are talking though.
[SPEAKER_09]: They are talking, Jared.
[SPEAKER_09]: In fact, we've got that as the second story in the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_09]: They're putting some Trump officials on blast because literally, and this is the dumbest thing to me.
[SPEAKER_09]: These folks like the TSA agents are not getting paid, and yet they are getting blasted by Trump officials who are basically trying to verbally and otherwise horse whip them and say, work harder.
[SPEAKER_06]: and we're talking beyond Nancy Mays.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, just Nancy Mays.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh my god, did you, did you see her own Senator, her own Republican colleague from her own state is like, excuse me?
[SPEAKER_09]: Excuse me?
[SPEAKER_10]: Uh-oh.
[SPEAKER_09]: Put, take, take, take your, take my name out your mouth.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hell no.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, she's got some real problems.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nancy, I have heard a lot of colleagues, capital hill covering types who have said that, you know, you can talk about your tailor greens and your, you know, some of these folks, and they're just kind of bananas to use the word that I think we're a lot where you can still say bananas.
[SPEAKER_09]: You can say bananas, you can say a lot.
[SPEAKER_06]: But Mace is just kind of a horse of a different mental illness.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, it's just a different,
[SPEAKER_09]: I think the thing is, is that some people, like, like, large march, march three toes, whatever you want to call her, I mean, she...
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not saying she could win some actor awards, but she definitely used a good.
[SPEAKER_09]: She's playing this off.
[SPEAKER_09]: She's praising Nancy Pelosi.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know she did.
[SPEAKER_06]: I knew to the hate geography, so she was first to touch the Kentay cloth today.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, man, man, man, look, look.
[SPEAKER_09]: I like Nancy Pelosi.
[SPEAKER_09]: I've had absolutely plenty of arguments with her.
[SPEAKER_09]: The thing I think that she was was doing, though, from sources that we've had.
[SPEAKER_09]: that have said there is some honesty they believe to the fact that that she campaign on getting the Epstein files.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're talking about Marjorie Taylor Green campaign on getting the Epstein files and campaign on keeping healthcare costs low.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, whether you believe the ship's going to do it or not, that's she campaigned on.
[SPEAKER_09]: But there are also some people who are saying that she wanted to run, not for president, but for Senate, and that certain people in the Trump regime basically told her to pound sand.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, AOC has said that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, not anywhere less than her own social media account.
[SPEAKER_09]: So she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's
[SPEAKER_09]: hand on this was that the words that were literally used by Stephen Miller were pay attention to your own own constituents.
[SPEAKER_09]: So she's paying attention to them really hard.
[SPEAKER_09]: And she's she's doing it this way.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, she's a weather vein.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's going to blow where the wind is glowing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, she's what she did last couple of days.
[SPEAKER_06]: We've seen some different winds.
[SPEAKER_09]: True.
[SPEAKER_09]: But one of the
[SPEAKER_09]: giving Nancy Pelosi her due, giving her respect was also saying, God, you know, must be nice to have a speaker of the house who can actually do something unlike Tiny Johnson, who, by the way, I actually did see that, oh my God, Jen Soky last night, she started to call him, God, what's she called him?
[SPEAKER_09]: Little Mike Johnson.
[SPEAKER_09]: She's heard tiny Johnson.
[SPEAKER_09]: She's just not totally going with a tiny Johnson thing because Jen Psaki is a little bit more tact.
[SPEAKER_09]: But I still call him tiny Johnson because look, if you're a Republican and you're standing there waving your impotent tiny Johnson at me, I'm gonna point in laughter to you and he is impotent and he is tiny.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's a small person and I'm not talking about his height and his last name is Johnson.
[SPEAKER_09]: So whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: Republicans really want Congress to fit in this teeny tiny little box that's on Trump's desk that he can essentially ignore at will.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that is not what the Constitution demands.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's certainly not what their constituents demand.
[SPEAKER_06]: And as we're starting to see now in these court cases, it's really not what the judges are going to allow.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've been really heartened by on the topics, whether it's in the
[SPEAKER_06]: generation or snap or a number of other things.
[SPEAKER_06]: These tariff cases.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, boy.
[SPEAKER_06]: The way the courts are coming down the mountain on these guys is really heartening.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think, you know, this is a slow system.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nobody gets to do everything they want all at once in the American system.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Even someone who's pretending to be a dictator and we're starting to see right now is is the return volley, the response from.
[SPEAKER_06]: the last remaining guardrails.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now Johnson is taking Congress out of that picture.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's no longer a check, nor a balance.
[SPEAKER_06]: Tiny Johnson is talented.
[SPEAKER_09]: Johnson has made Congress impotent like him.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think it's a good reminder that Democrats can campaign and govern
[SPEAKER_06]: for a government that actually works that actually does the damn job.
[SPEAKER_09]: That was one of the big things.
[SPEAKER_09]: That was one of the biggest things.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you read the stuff, read the polls, read the exit interviews, read all of that stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: We've got some of that stuff in the news on tap the day two in round two.
[SPEAKER_09]: People basically said, Democrats, campaign, the fact that we can actually, we can do things that we can get government to work.
[SPEAKER_09]: We can make it work for you.
[SPEAKER_09]: And a lot of people even Trump supporters said, you know what screw it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's let these people have a chance because clearly the folks we have in there now do not I'm I'm I'm I'm really excited in part because of the great guests couple of your friends that you called who happened to be also experts which you know we're in the DC area we kind of have that issue.
[SPEAKER_06]: Always a pleasure.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, one is going to not take is he does a lot of things.
[SPEAKER_09]: He is I don't want to call him a digital no mad, but he's worked for a lot of great campaigns to help them out and he's also an immigration expert.
[SPEAKER_09]: So he's going to know a lot about what's going on there and we're definitely going to be talking about, oh, that case today with Judge Ellis and Chicago for sure, you know, I've had the pleasure, you know, when we were when we were both.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's interesting.
[SPEAKER_06]: Other places and yeah, it's areas like Sam and other places.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you get to the chance to work with people who have lived a life of civil rights advocacy and also happen to be fun to talk to.
[SPEAKER_06]: one is in that category, you know, he's lived.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's he's he's been a DACA recipient.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's he's coming in after 25 years in this country.
[SPEAKER_06]: And and just just has the ability to encapsulate his lived experience.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think about guys like Mike's in Ureli over at Syria.
[SPEAKER_06]: So we will not let Joe Madison.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just some of these people who have lived the life and then come around and say we're going to take some people with us if we can And I think one is in that category and talk about people who are great to talk to in any capacity I know next hour we've got Carolyn Fiddler Carolyn Fiddler is the Democratic Attorney General's Association Daga which is not a hat.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm guessing she wears ever because I
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm glad we get to talk to her next hour to not only not only she with the Democratic AG's association, but she also is the single best I'm probably you and I are probably two of the 12 people who were left at the end of her state's newsletter because we're nutty about state politics too, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, she's well plugged in.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm glad we get to do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm glad I'm here with you.
[SPEAKER_06]: I missed Jody.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think we all missed Jody We missed Jody, but we are very glad she is hanging out today in Hollywood.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's some ceremony some stuff about palm Royale her mom is there.
[SPEAKER_09]: She's hanging out
[SPEAKER_09]: with Mindy Cone, who was here last week at the bar, so Mindy and Carol say hello to all of us.
[SPEAKER_09]: What we're going to do, look, we're going to clean up after this first round, and then we're going to go check the door.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think Juan is just parking to the parking lot, and we will get him into the bar, got a lot to talk to.
[SPEAKER_09]: Fresh and upbeat drink, hang on.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's a Thursday night, here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, when it's 8th Thursday night here at the politics bar wait that isn't Sean.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not Jodie either Fooled like this Unava we here it's you it's Jared Rizzi.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's me and Sean it's me appears Sean, thank you so much for letting me come in here play where you're coming into playing out, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: You couldn't we love that
[SPEAKER_06]: It's rushing in where Jodie fears to tread today.
[SPEAKER_06]: And joining us at the bar right now, I am so glad to welcome Juan Escalante.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've known Juan for a long time.
[SPEAKER_06]: Juan, when we're Dr. recipient, you've been a voice for immigration and immigration reform.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is such a pleasure to bring you into politics bar one.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for joining us here today.
[SPEAKER_04]: blushes all mine happy to be the bar with y'all and looking to talk some politics.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, so you can do that on Sean one has been here for a very long time, but this this election Tuesday was one's first.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I think we need to celebrate that a little bit.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah, we heard we heard by the way, congratulations, sir.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is just a citizen now.
[SPEAKER_06]: and can vote and could do all the other things.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's your fault.
[SPEAKER_06]: One.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hahaha.
[SPEAKER_06]: Welcome to the end of America.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hey, congratulations on Prop 50 by the way.
[SPEAKER_09]: Since you are at the LA end of the bar holding that one down, congrats on Prop 50.
[SPEAKER_09]: Man, that was a killer ass vote.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've been telling people, you know, it's kind of wild at the first time that I've voted as an American citizen or just in general vote period is on a proposition that would allow the state of California to redistribute itself.
[SPEAKER_04]: And part of that conversation has been specifically aimed
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, my parents, members of my family, where, you know, what I try to do is like, I'm not just voting on Prop 50 because I think it's right thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I voting yes, I voted yes, I'm Prop 50.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mostly because I think it's great that the state is actually asking the residents and the citizens of the state, whether or not they consent for them to redo this, which is not what Texas South Carolina and others are doing.
[SPEAKER_09]: exactly want to correct on that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Something that Jody always hits on is the fact that that's democracy.
[SPEAKER_09]: What Texas did is not democratic.
[SPEAKER_09]: What California did is very democratic.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I do think that what we're seeing with the margins of democratic surge on Tuesday, it probably puts a little bit of shake in the boots for people who are like, hey, we're going to thin out our Republican majority based on 2024 numbers.
[SPEAKER_06]: If I saw those numbers at a Virginia and New Jersey and elsewhere,
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if I'd want to necessarily make my Republican members have to deal with less safe seats in the future.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, one, are you, are you looking at any of these numbers?
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you seeing anything that gives you, does it feel like for California's at least that this is something that's going to go and have no deleterious effects?
[SPEAKER_06]: You guys are going to be just fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think the state of California is one thing that, you know, obviously paints a broader picture for people who are looking at it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But as somebody who grew up in the state of Florida, California is just something that should not be generalized.
[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, there's a very specific set of the voters population here.
[SPEAKER_04]: But ultimately, I think it definitely shows.
[SPEAKER_04]: the Republican party that blue states are also willing to adopt their own way to join this so-called arms race of redistricting ahead of the 2026 midterm election.
[SPEAKER_04]: And more importantly, is that not just our blue states willing to do it, but that they're willing to also involve the voter.
[SPEAKER_04]: and make sure that the voter is first and foremost respected and consulted when taking this type of action, which I think paints a very stark picture as to when you see what's happening in Texas where Ted Cruz recently joined Fox and just kind of sounded the alarm that you know basically Tuesday was so called in his worst bloodbath and that the Republican should really take note.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, if anyone knows when to get out, get the hell out.
[SPEAKER_08]: Actually, I should probably give you a drink for that one because you're right on that one, Jared.
[SPEAKER_06]: But it's, well, when Ted Cruz leaves, it's always a positive.
[SPEAKER_09]: But then, you know, yeah, but I already heard somebody say, okay, look, when and this, this is something I've seen several people on social media.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, obviously one, your digital strategies, you probably seen this, too.
[SPEAKER_09]: But I've heard several people be like, oh, yeah, well, when we be Ted Cruz, we can send it to Cancun.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like, no.
[SPEAKER_09]: No no no no no no no look Mexican people are really nice do not send Ted Cruz down there my god man Come on.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's like taking a flip.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's like putting a flaming bag of poo on somebody's porch man Cut that out.
[SPEAKER_09]: Do not send them Ted Cruz Jesus
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think about this too, you know, your, your, your first election that you're able to vote here in the States, and then also this, this moment that we're in, I have to ask about, you, you talked about the way in which Democrats have sometimes tied their own hands and not, you know, they, they brought knives or sporks or plastic coloring to a gunfight.
[SPEAKER_06]: I wonder about, again, your background on DACA, you've seen some really tepid responses to some really pressing issues.
[SPEAKER_06]: How much of a shift is this something that's a flash in the pan?
[SPEAKER_06]: We saw this on Tuesday night and then some people over the Democratic Party are just going to wash their hands of it before we actually get it or do you think there's some lasting power here?
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what I'm for the next year.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're going to be thinking about this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, I look for, and Jared knows this, you know, about me, obviously, some of the background here, I came to United States in the year 2000, I grew up with out an immigration status, eventually in 2012, thanks to President Den, President Barack Obama, the DACA program kind of instituted, which gave me some type of reprieve, and this year, you know, through
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's, you know, 25 years simplified in a, in a soundbite of immigration journey.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think what's important is what Jared's saying is that in 2010, 2011, 2013, so on and so forth.
[SPEAKER_04]: All the way up to now, we'll see, we've seen the Democrats kind of like shy away from immigration as an issue.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the unfortunate part because part of the conversation, specifically in this election, when you see New Jersey, we see Virginia,
[SPEAKER_04]: the mystery box that is the Latino vote, how the Latinos voted in your jersey did they vote did they they they still go along with the Republican and the withdrawal from presidential we did go with Virginia and I think
[SPEAKER_04]: part of the formula here is for Democrats to essentially lean in and take up these fights and talk about the things that really impact people.
[SPEAKER_04]: What people don't want to see is to continue to experience the damaging effects of this government shutdown.
[SPEAKER_04]: They don't want to see an update on their rent and on their groceries and they sure as hell, you know, don't want to see massized agents when it comes to when we talk about immigration picking up
[SPEAKER_04]: because that is a damaging, you know, visual not just for the community, but for the children and for the people who are working in this country, who unfortunately continue to be in snarled as more and more ice detention continues to happen that also involves, may I say, you a citizens.
[SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_09]: The thing I know we focused on this because we have we have our friends Karen and Anita Karen from Chicago.
[SPEAKER_09]: She she'll be here tomorrow night and so we've talked a lot about Chicago obviously we've had Cataboo because they only come in here before you know we talk about Chicago, but it wasn't just Chicago although ice did go into a daycare center and grab a teacher yesterday, which was insane.
[SPEAKER_09]: But there's also, there's another story that we have to where armed U.S. immigration agents, ICE agents drove off with a toddler after costing her dad in LA.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's happening in every corner of the country that these ice monsters are out there.
[SPEAKER_09]: And it's like, and I, you're, you're saying that that democratic voters, independent voters, and even this time, surprisingly, if you look at some of the, the exit polls, the exit interviews and
[SPEAKER_09]: there were a lot of voters who were saying, what we've heard, but they'd actually drove them to action that they were saying, this isn't what if they supported Trump before they would say, this isn't what I voted for.
[SPEAKER_09]: I didn't vote for somebody to take one's cousin and, you know, tackle them at the Home Depot and drag their ass out.
[SPEAKER_09]: I didn't vote.
[SPEAKER_09]: for the kids who go to Jared school to have their parents be tackled in DC.
[SPEAKER_09]: I didn't vote for this crap.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to vote against the monsters in Trump's regime who were doing this.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, being a digital strategist, you see more of this stuff online, one.
[SPEAKER_09]: So is it something that you've seen as a response kind of in the election of people cheering?
[SPEAKER_09]: Are you hearing more people say you're seeing more people come out and say, yes, I
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think there's a, there's a, there's a two step response here, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you have people who were looking for some sign of life or hope from a democratic party?
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that not only did they get a shot in the heart of that, but they got multiple shots in the off, because kind of based on their results.
[SPEAKER_06]: RFK is not going to allow shots and that is not.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't even know why.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, well, we've got a list.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's out of this one.
[SPEAKER_07]: He RFK's out of this one.
[SPEAKER_07]: Because I, you're right.
[SPEAKER_07]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was a good shot.
[SPEAKER_04]: Probably probably on the way to Cancun with Ted.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to give you a ding on that one.
[SPEAKER_08]: Just because, you know, that is a perfect.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's a perfect joke.
[SPEAKER_04]: So look.
[SPEAKER_04]: No secret here that Democrats, as a whole as a party, we're looking for some sort of life, some sort of hope, I think people myself included were expecting some wins.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that anybody had it tallied up that they were gonna win.
[SPEAKER_04]: everything and then some just you're looking at Virginia every county, you know, shifted by multiple points in the in the democratic direction.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think that ultimately one they were looking for some sort of life they got that they got proof that there's definitely, you know, and to see some and there's definitely willingness to not everything is do Marissa and that people are looking to essentially stand up to what's happening.
[SPEAKER_04]: Number two, I also think that there is and.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is kind of obvious with the conversation.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be shifting in the next couple of weeks and months into 2026.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what does this mean for people like you're saying, Sean, who both may have voted for Trump?
[SPEAKER_04]: And are now essentially backtracking because they're seeing not just the deportation and kidnapping of people off the street, but they're seeing unauthorized, both strikes and killing of people on the Caribbean, who
[SPEAKER_04]: up as of today, you know, we're talking, you know, obviously on Thursday.
[SPEAKER_04]: November 6th, we have multiple these strikes.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have no names.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have no corroborating proof.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're seeing, you know, essentially this Garmin shutdown being dragged on by the Republicans in Congress.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think what, you know, that and more, obviously, is painting a picture here where Republicans are probably thinking,
[SPEAKER_04]: we need to taper off what is happening here and go back to a semblance of our government structure on which is check and balances.
[SPEAKER_04]: I legislate a branch that actually goes to work to this year that actually continues to hold people accountable.
[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, some of this may be pie in the sky for some people in the Beltway, but at the end of the day I do think that, you know, when it comes down to like, you know, families in Iowa or rural parts of the country that they may just want to be saying hold up a second just to borrow, you know, essentially, what you're saying Sean.
[SPEAKER_04]: I voted for Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't vote for this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they may be stormed by a remorse altogether in here.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if I just may, I will point people to read a very important piece coming out of the Miami Herald this week, where essentially the interview, a variety of different Trump voters, black men, specifically.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the headlightness is essentially that virus remorse, who are saying that the rollback in civil liberties, in the rights,
[SPEAKER_04]: of people in this country is unprecedented and that they never in a thousand years imagine that it gets as bad in.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I said yesterday.
[SPEAKER_09]: Go ahead and send it to us on the social media for the politics bar and we'll absolutely make sure everybody actually gets that out because that was yeah, it was a good piece.
[SPEAKER_09]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_06]: On the one hand one, you've got this open invitation, I know Democrats would welcome having voters come back into the fold who have had a little bit of an, you know, an oopsie come to Jesus moment.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but what do you think?
[SPEAKER_06]: Because your work has been on both immigration advocacy but also on campaigns and coalition building.
[SPEAKER_06]: How do we do that?
[SPEAKER_06]: How do we bring people back in
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I, I was tricked by one of the best liars who's ever been on the public stage in the United States, and now I want to come back, but I want to be a part of a democratic party that actually gives a damn about me.
[SPEAKER_06]: How do we do that their question.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think the time of, you know, telling and not showing us over, I think ultimately people are looking for a place.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think ultimately people are looking for a place where results are going to matter.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not just talking about elections.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking about actual policy that's going to impact the lives of everyday people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, going back to the immigration, I have a background in that I lifted the quote unquote wedding line applied to come to this country with the quote unquote legal way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I got to tell you something.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been working on this for 15 years and since the year 2000, you know, the term dreamers, dream act,
[SPEAKER_04]: Immigrant you, Docker recipients have been thrown around.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's been rallies.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's been photo plenty of press offer, press conferences and opportunities for members of Congress to talk about, you know, how great dreamers and Docker recipients are when asked if they are to look at you.
[SPEAKER_04]: We haven't seen results.
[SPEAKER_04]: We haven't seen that piece of legislation brought forth to a vote because it always gets mud modeled up and one thing or another.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that is a prime example of what people want to see.
[SPEAKER_04]: With the time for talking about these OCADS is over and the time to actually act is there.
[SPEAKER_09]: I love that, and I think that is extremely important.
[SPEAKER_09]: One, can we hang it around for a whole other round?
[SPEAKER_09]: Because there is so much more to talk about on all of this, and obviously, you know your stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: Plus, you know, you got great jokes, and you know, Jerry, you know, so, you know, all the reasons to stay.
[SPEAKER_09]: Can we get you to stay for one more round?
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to switch to an IPA now.
[SPEAKER_09]: Nothing wrong with that.
[SPEAKER_09]: We got IPA.
[SPEAKER_09]: We got whatever you want here.
[SPEAKER_09]: It is after all the politics bar.
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[SPEAKER_09]: We will be back in just a few minutes.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's me and Jared with Juan Escalante here at the politics bar.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Thursday night here at the politics bar you got me Sean Smith Pierce.
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[SPEAKER_09]: We will talk about the drink of the day a little bit later, you know, after all, it is nacho day.
[SPEAKER_09]: And you know, there are certain things that go with nachos and certain things that don't.
[SPEAKER_09]: But it's kind of like, okay, Jared, your family, you've always talked about the fact that they, you know, you grew up with a restaurant thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: When people are waiting for things, they actually want
[SPEAKER_09]: to see it happening.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, okay, you don't necessarily, although with restaurants these days, a lot of them they've taken down the wall.
[SPEAKER_09]: You can see your food being made.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, you got to walk into that kitchen.
[SPEAKER_09]: You got to know what they got to see.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, they want to actually see that their food is being made.
[SPEAKER_09]: And also sometimes people want to see to make sure nobody's doing a slim shady.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, so I get it to be what they call it where you're exactly people want to see what's going on.
[SPEAKER_09]: They know that making making dinner make a sausage is is ugly and and you know, I think I think I need to pull back.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know I need to pull back the current during the break.
[SPEAKER_06]: I said we were having a really good conversation about how the sausage is made.
[SPEAKER_06]: John comes back and says I'm going to tee up this car and I just want to say in terms of getting to sausage.
[SPEAKER_06]: That is the longest I've ever had to wait for anything.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, that is, that's what she said.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's recap.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, I'm going to be a professional here for a damn minute and just say we're talking about.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're having fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: One was talking about how it's time for Democrats.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean to show them as why, you know, why, widely, but Democrats specifically.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the time for for telling and not showing is over.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think there was a conversation that we were having during the commercial break about how.
[SPEAKER_06]: The people are ready to see this and I think in sharp contrast to that we have seen over and over again Mike Johnson talk about as the speaker of the house he is he's constantly getting and men in black, you know,
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think it's important for Democrats while we're drawing those contrasts to say actually I have seen it.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's terrible actually That wasn't okay for him to say that and here's why and I do think that immigration is an area where and one you've experienced this over You know 15 years professionally and 10 years before that of just being an amateur
[SPEAKER_06]: And in the field of just people who are willing to let slide a hell of a lot when they think they can get away with it and there's plenty of that even in democratic circles I would I would you have some story Republican you Yeah, I mean look It's no secret that the issue of immigration still being
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I mean, subject of conversation, just kind of given the headlines, right, but ultimately he prioritizes the word I always hear.
[SPEAKER_04]: Defrior, I mean, part of my, you know, day to day now involves telling people how back 13 years ago in 2012.
[SPEAKER_04]: specifically amongst, you know, some of my peers, who were also dealing with the same service circumstances, was that I, to us, was a rogue agency that just kind of did this very shady thing and just went ahead and, and nobody batted an eye, and sure this over said hearing is in one not, but ultimately what ended up happening was that
[SPEAKER_04]: funding for ICE and CBP and the HSWNUP.
[SPEAKER_04]: Number of beds went up, so on and so forth, and just kind of building the apparatus that brings us to today, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So what gives me some sense of comfort and hope.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's, I find this very challenging to, you see, even express that most because,
[SPEAKER_04]: in the horror that we're all collectively living in and witnessing through our phones and organs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is the realization that is unchecked power through immigration customs enforcement and the HS exists and they're willing to go after you as citizens.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're willing to go after children.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're willing to go out against anybody that doesn't essentially fit their perfect,
[SPEAKER_04]: you know, visioned for whatever their priorities that they have given.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that is, I think not something that developers are going to stand for.
[SPEAKER_04]: And hopefully, I see this very much so hopefully there is a plan to scale this back.
[SPEAKER_04]: and ultimately rain in some sense and guard rails back into the economy.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's got to be we've got the way that ice and CBP exists now and DHS exists now has got to be completely changed.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not saying get rid of ice.
[SPEAKER_09]: I know there are those people who are activists on the left who are like, you know, F ice and F the police and get rid of it.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like, no, but get rid of the monstrous way that they are now.
[SPEAKER_09]: the way they are now is not acceptable for for those people who missed it by the way we do have a a story that is in the news on tap today uh they did get themselves a little bit uh hoist by their own petard shall we say uh judge Ellis in Chicago area uh absolutely kick their ass imposing strict restrictions on ice and CBP use of force against protesters media and clergy
[SPEAKER_09]: Uh, during the the hearing today, during the ruling today, she said the use of force shocks the conscience this conduct by I since CBP shows no sign of stopping.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then she, she absolutely, uh, Greg Bavino, the border chief, who's all, oh, well, I didn't mean this and, you know, the, the typical bully stuff when they get caught and, oh, well, we didn't really mean it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like you were saying, they're one where people have said, oh, well, they've given it, she didn't give him an inch.
[SPEAKER_09]: She said the government will have people believe that the Chicago land area is a vice-hold of violence ransacked by riders and attacked by agitators that simply is untrue.
[SPEAKER_09]: And the government's own evidence in this case belies that assertion.
[SPEAKER_09]: I find the government's evidence to simply be not credible.
[SPEAKER_09]: She's not messing around and that I love that.
[SPEAKER_09]: But now we got to see Democrats take this type of ruling and go forward and be like, ah, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, if it's going to happen, what you know what's going to happen, we will quick, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's at what at the moment that the Democratic Party says anything about ICE, the Republicans are going to be or they're just anti-police.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, they're just one of
[SPEAKER_04]: or us to have credible balances between what's acceptable and what isn't.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that going into a daycare center with children where mass agents with weapons are going in without a warrant, it's just not the way to start something.
[SPEAKER_06]: I need to I need to react to that for a second be sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, a couple of days ago, my kid had a lockdown drill.
[SPEAKER_06]: And if you've never had to talk to your to a five-year-old about the lockdown drill, it's going to, the punch is going to hit a couple of ways.
[SPEAKER_06]: First, they're going to be really proud because they did a drill and they did it well.
[SPEAKER_06]: Then you're going to ask them what the drill was for, and they don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: they don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't know why they had to do the things that they did.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't know why they had to go to the places they went.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't know what it was for.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think about my five year old in that moment.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I see this, you know, this, this daycare in Chicago.
[SPEAKER_06]: The kids in that room are so small, they're so young, they don't know, and they also don't know, because we've all been accustomed to this over 30 years, we have just allowed the poison that is widespread firearms in this country.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's just one tragedy, Matroyshka dolled inside another.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: These kids don't know the difference between someone who's coming in there to kill them and someone who's coming in there to take someone away.
[SPEAKER_06]: And frankly, I don't know the difference.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm a damn adult.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And to think that you were going to subject kids in any school to frankly, to to lock down drills in the first place.
[SPEAKER_06]: But then also to the idea that, hey, you know what, it's random terror Tuesday, get ready for it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just think this has to be something that punctures, that wakes you to hell up.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you are seeing this, and I know as a dad, you know, I get, and you can hear it, I'm emotional about this.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I, every day, I walked my kid past, there's law enforcement with long guns.
[SPEAKER_06]: Why?
[SPEAKER_06]: That didn't happen last year.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's eaten become a hell hole in the last 12 months.
[SPEAKER_06]: other than one one particular resident I can think of who I wish wasn't in the city right now and I just I just get to this point where
[SPEAKER_06]: It's too much to ask of a three year old or a four year old or a five year old or a six year old or a 42 year old or anybody else to accept this as normal and I hope that we never do and I hope that we demand from our leaders.
[SPEAKER_06]: A hell of a lot more because right now we've been accepting a lot less and it hasn't gotten us anywhere other than.
[SPEAKER_09]: this hell hall well we've got to we've got to see the next round but I think you're right one in saying that what Democratic voters have said they want his action not just words we've got some great pieces that are in the news on tap today from Nate Cone and Jennifer Ruben and Caitlin Burns that are saying the data shows things like Democrats didn't just win over their own voters and independence they flipped some of the Trump supporters and they flipped them
[SPEAKER_09]: For example, the the ice and CDP stuff that we talked about the corruption that is so rampant throughout all of the Trump regime and this guy's are bragging on signal chats about how how many police violations that's one of the reasons that judge Ellis and Chicago today said you literally bragged about beating up a woman.
[SPEAKER_09]: She goes You're done.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're done.
[SPEAKER_06]: It is part of the application process.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now, this is a full employment program for guys who like to beat up on women.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that has been that was partly a joke.
[SPEAKER_06]: Partly a joke, but also genuine policy.
[SPEAKER_09]: But look, that's as Caitlin Burns piece in the news on TAPS is Democrats' big election wins also showed that Democrats do not need to hide our support for trans rights, for LGBT friends, for our disabled friends, for those members who are not just friends, but they're in our community.
[SPEAKER_09]: They're here in the bar hanging out with all of us.
[SPEAKER_09]: and and of course our immigrant friends as well who are here trying to make things better, but that's one of the big ways I think that Democrats could get things done is right now there hasn't been you experience it one that there's no real straight path to actually being a citizen it's kind of a little bit of a luck and a little bit of of you know filing the right thing
[SPEAKER_09]: from from people that you know in that corner of the immigrant world, if there was a very set way, maybe difficult, but there was a set way to become and not through eight kinds of circus hoops to become a citizen, would that actually make people feel a hell of a lot better if that was done?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, of course it would because who would want to subject themselves into just waiting around onto an unmarked vehicle, pulls from the side of the road and just takes you away and then says,
[SPEAKER_04]: not only are we going to deport you, but we might also, you know, to add the cruelty to it, going to deport you to a country where you don't even speak the language to.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to deport you to Ghana, we're going to deport you wherever because we're criminal, we don't have a warrant, we don't have proof, but that's what we think you are.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's what I think that you deserve.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the answer is like,
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you think in the right mind once you do that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like that, my mom, my parents.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody.
[SPEAKER_09]: Nobody.
[SPEAKER_09]: God, well, there's so much more obviously we would love to have you back with Jared or with Jody or, you know, just you and me hanging out whatever you'd be fine, whatever.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's already trying to split us apart.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, I'm just saying, look, he's cool enough, and you're cool enough.
[SPEAKER_09]: I can hang out with individual, you guys could hang out with Jodi instead of me.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm fine with that, whatever it's all about.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we might do that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Juan, we hope to have you back, man.
[SPEAKER_09]: Please send that link over and we will get it out from that Miami hero story, Juan Escalante.
[SPEAKER_09]: You can follow him.
[SPEAKER_09]: We've got the links in our guest section in the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_06]: Come on, Juan.
[SPEAKER_09]: Thank you, Juan, very much.
[SPEAKER_09]: Coming up, we've got the trip of the day, and we got Carolyn Fiddler coming into freshen up your drink and hang around.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Jared Busy in here, Jared Busy in here for, Jared Busy in here for Joody Hamilton on, uh, on, uh, trying to go, I believe, Sean.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sean's with you.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's here tonight.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's so great to fill in.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's so great to be here at the bar with you, Sean.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you, Jared.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for coming and hanging out with me.
[SPEAKER_06]: asking me this is always a good time and I am just gratified and not just to talk to you but talking to people in Chicago, you know, we were talking so much about Ellis and everything going on in Chicago today.
[SPEAKER_06]: And people who are listening on WCPT, you might be hearing us in Chicago if you're in Minneapolis, AM950 right there on the dial.
[SPEAKER_06]: Georgia now, we can get those
[SPEAKER_06]: green in the first hour, but that's not really new.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's pretty much, they appreciate that down there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Also, they also like us making front of Marjorie and Tennessee.
[SPEAKER_06]: We had a little detour there, I'm a detour talk radio, exactly, exactly, and we could talk that and progressive voices worldwide.
[SPEAKER_05]: I got the whole list here, Sean.
[SPEAKER_05]: You did.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can help.
[SPEAKER_09]: Jared, you can do things.
[SPEAKER_09]: I was good at it.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's got it.
[SPEAKER_09]: He wanted, he wanted to try that one.
[SPEAKER_09]: He is actually extremely excellent because he is a way to say, why am I in this boat?
[SPEAKER_06]: Why am I in this boat?
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you frailing me?
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not frailing you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm smart.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can do things.
[SPEAKER_09]: we do have fun here at the politics bar thank you by the way for all of you who are hanging out with us from wherever you are and thank you for those of you who are future people subscribing on the podcast as well.
[SPEAKER_09]: Jody is out again as you know if you were here last hour she'll be back tomorrow but she's doing a little thing with her mom also known as Carol Burnett.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: whatever it's carrying.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's going to collect some fun sound.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's going to bring her back.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think she's going to hang out with Carol and Mindy because they're doing a whole big palm Royale thing, which if you guys, you know, if you like some good entertainment, you definitely should be watching some palm Royale because that's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I guess there are obviously, I mean, I don't guess I know.
[SPEAKER_09]: There are a bunch of other fantastic actors in palm Royale.
[SPEAKER_09]: who are all going to be there.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I don't know whether she's she's going to talk to Allison Janney who I know a little bit.
[SPEAKER_09]: I've done some stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: She can talk to Allison and she's yes, she's going to talk to maybe John Stemo.
[SPEAKER_09]: She can talk to whoever wants to join is the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_09]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: Pretty great.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, and maybe maybe we will have her and you and me and whoever else from Palm Royale because with the hell it's fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I wouldn't say this when Joey was here, but they really, I mean, stars of her mom's caliber do not exist.
[SPEAKER_06]: They do not burn as bright.
[SPEAKER_06]: They do not exist in a permanent way that they did.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, it's just a really nice person, too.
[SPEAKER_09]: I can't tell stories completely at a school as they say, but she is just a really great excellent person.
[SPEAKER_09]: So, um,
[SPEAKER_09]: It's nice when somebody is really kick ass at what they do, but it's also really great when they are kick ass as a human being.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I do hate when we have, it's like, oh, that moment where you're like, oh, I'm seeing this person trending, is it because they've said something terrible?
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, for example, we were talking a lot about, I mean, it's Thursday, we're still talking about election results because you've, you've been, you know, celebrating and hungover for the last 40 hours.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're all looking, you know, we're all, we're all a little hungover.
[SPEAKER_09]: Some of us are a little bit more excited than others, but there were some New York stop it, stop it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have one production writer, you know, but I mean, there was some real New York celebrity crash outs.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, like the dimmer messing in New York and a few other people.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, if you just want some really juicy, delicious, eye-octane, full fat, completely uncut joy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let me point you in the direction of the universe.
[SPEAKER_06]: still press a question out all you're talking about people are crashing out.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not just about you know people who fault full joy and giving you a great great performances.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, yes, he's definitely Carol and anything she does.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, no, no, no, I was talking about I mean it's Scorpio season Sean.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm just talking about experiencing joy at others expense
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, I will I will I will say this much.
[SPEAKER_09]: I was experiencing joy at the expense of the folks in DC.
[SPEAKER_09]: This was after we sent out the the news on tap today, but before Jared and I got here from different corners of DC We were very happy though with the trial results today because sandwich guy.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, sandwich guy is free.
[SPEAKER_09]: If the sub don't split you must have quit.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, the D.C. jury acquitted sandwich guy, so, uh, you're slapping a CBP agent with your salami and D.C. is apparently okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, look, we don't vision A's me bro is available.
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, we, we, we, we were, we were talking, you know, in between hour one and hour two about tiny Johnson.
[SPEAKER_09]: So, you know, I'm just saying it's a small sandwich.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sampler Sampage there.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just say it's
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, that feeling when you've had, when you've ordered a big, uh, uh, like a, you know, a deli sandwich, and you've completed half of it, and you know that it would be a reasonable moment.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then you say to yourself, I could stop here.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're like, I could stop or I can stop here.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know I have to do this.
[SPEAKER_06]: I could live the human experience to its fullest on this one time I get on this earth.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like a finished that sandwich.
[SPEAKER_06]: The only reason I can think of to not
[SPEAKER_09]: is to have it available in case you need it against law enforcement at this price because you know what it's open season baby hot so persona look look look look maybe maybe you're somebody who's not a sandwich person that he's okay because we have a suit for my family I mean that's
[SPEAKER_09]: No, no, no, but we do have we do have something else on the on the the food menu tonight here at the politics bar because of course All right, you know, look we got the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's do that.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we mentioned it earlier.
[SPEAKER_09]: The drink of the day today is the classic margarita on the rocks inspired by National nacho day.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, you know, it's not a sandwich, but it is a nice appetizer Look if you're if you're not a fan of nachos today is nacho day
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not even going to tell Jody about these.
[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't think he showed it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Jody said it's a horrible dad joke.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's Sean and Jared behind the bar today.
[SPEAKER_09]: Forgive them for that.
[SPEAKER_09]: So for all of you who are in the bar, look at this.
[SPEAKER_09]: She already is saying, you know, forgive us because she knew that we would tell stupid dad jokes because that's.
[SPEAKER_06]: So this is not a frozen margarita.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is a traditional margarita.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's not the one that has to reject modernity and embrace tradition.
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, I like the horizon of life.
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, if you're still, if you're looking for a great gift as the holidays are coming up, one of the things that you can do is on the drink of the day you can scroll down.
[SPEAKER_09]: We had Ted Genoese,
[SPEAKER_09]: My friend literally since junior high in high school here earlier at the politics bar earlier this year.
[SPEAKER_09]: His book To Kill the Wars, Jose Cuervo and a bloody struggle for the spirit of Mexico.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's basically the definitive history of Toquila.
[SPEAKER_09]: We have great interview about that and it's still actually one of the more popular interviews at the politicsbar.com.
[SPEAKER_09]: But you can go when you can check that out.
[SPEAKER_09]: And so of course, you know, when it comes to Toquila, it comes to margaritas, you know,
[SPEAKER_09]: major families of tequila royalty, and they tend to recommend tequila on the rocks, mercury is in the rocks versus the blended kind.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just, you know, look, what about are you a miscal person Sean?
[SPEAKER_06]: I can be good.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, I'm going to be good.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just,
[SPEAKER_06]: I think because I like PD kind of scotches and drinking, I like things, you know, we're in spooky season still.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a couple days after it's like a week after Halloween.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: I like everything that tastes like grave dirt basically, you know, so PD scotch is very much right in that family of it.
[SPEAKER_09]: We did have a PD scotch drink earlier in the week and somebody was like, you mix scotch with something.
[SPEAKER_09]: somebody in one of our wonderful socials.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm well, look, everybody has their own particular taste.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's a second people's young.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's the same way with Nachos.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you want the full history on the origination of Nachos, it's a great story.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we've got it written up in the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_09]: But lying short when it comes to Nachos, there are lots of different kinds, but they were originally invented just over the border.
[SPEAKER_09]: in Mexico.
[SPEAKER_09]: On the, uh, there's a P. address in Eagle Pass, the two, the twin cities right there on the border.
[SPEAKER_09]: And it's a, it's a great story you should read it, but we got to get you to the recipe for the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so start with a margarita glass chilled margarita glass and she'll margarita glass because that's the best way to do it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Shaker ice.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, you need the rice for the drink and you need the shaker with the ice, both kinds of ice, right horse salt for the rim now we're not this is this is the traditional.
[SPEAKER_06]: I love a tahin or something like really like, you know, you know, they're, they're, they're, yeah, let's have a little fun here.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, high quality to kill a two ounces.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, two ounces, Blanco, Repesato, or Anejo, um, get the good stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you don't know, get Ted's book and then you need to go on the other side.
[SPEAKER_06]: Or just look cure on one ounce of that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: One ounce of original color.
[SPEAKER_09]: You can use triple sac or you can use quantro.
[SPEAKER_09]: Uh, all depends on, you know, which you prefer.
[SPEAKER_06]: Fresh lime juice, got to squeeze your own citrus.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's very important, the exact.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then, the simple syrup or a gov-e.
[SPEAKER_06]: I definitely want that sweetness.
[SPEAKER_06]: I want that sweetness.
[SPEAKER_09]: And some people like the sweetness.
[SPEAKER_09]: And there are days when I like the sweetness and days when I'm like, eh, you know, it's up to you.
[SPEAKER_09]: Rime wedge.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you're very important.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: Garnished that.
[SPEAKER_09]: And also, if you have a lime, you're already cutting it up.
[SPEAKER_09]: You can actually take one wedge and use that for the garnish and use the other wedge to help you rim the glass.
[SPEAKER_06]: I say, and also when you're cutting your lines, you got to cut it.
[SPEAKER_06]: look at the way you're cutting it and if you don't get all the individual segments, you might need to turn your knife 90 degrees.
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't hurt yourself.
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't do this while you're taught listening to this, but turn your knife because you want to get all the segments so that when you squeeze it, those segments are squished and then the juice comes out.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you have just the long wedge where it's just one big segment of the fruit, that's impossible to squeeze.
[SPEAKER_06]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_09]: So you're saying your toucher, cut your wedges, the short way, not the long way.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: And Jared is saying this is somebody who has many years of experience in the rest of the world.
[SPEAKER_06]: So much knife skills.
[SPEAKER_06]: You've got, I love, I love teaching.
[SPEAKER_06]: Actually, we were talking a little bit about my five-year-old earlier.
[SPEAKER_06]: One of my favorite experiences is a dad teaching my five-year-old how to use a knife.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and the kids, it's so important these skills.
[SPEAKER_06]: And now I haven't had him making me, you know,
[SPEAKER_06]: Dressing's for Margarita.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, hey, can you put me on a read a kid?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it'd be okay It might one thing to be like and a sit here in a living room.
[SPEAKER_05]: You go make me a margarita, right dad and beer That's okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you, dad and Margarita.
[SPEAKER_05]: Slightly different Here's gotta wait at least my leave
[SPEAKER_06]: Got a way to tell six years old.
[SPEAKER_06]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: First up, rim the glass.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you're going to do it with the salt, that's the best way.
[SPEAKER_09]: You take the lime wedge, like Jared said, the best way.
[SPEAKER_09]: So you get all the juice that way.
[SPEAKER_09]: You run the lime wedge around the glass and then you dip that in the course salt.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you don't want to do salt up to you.
[SPEAKER_09]: Second thing, fill the prepared glass with fresh ice and leave it to chill at least five minutes.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's important.
[SPEAKER_09]: Then, in your shaker, you want to add ice, make sure there's ice in that shaker, as we said, the tequila, the orange core, the lime juice, and the agave or the simple syrup, whatever you want that, or if you don't, you can leave the agave simple syrup out.
[SPEAKER_09]: You shake that mixture until it is well chilled, so literally you could prep the glass and then shake for four and a half minutes, whatever, sure.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then you strain that into the margarita glass, garnish with a lime wheel, or a lime slice,
[SPEAKER_09]: You got your margarine for your nachos, so I don't know how you like your nachos, um, I tend to go into traditional
[SPEAKER_09]: I tend to go a little more traditional, the chips, the cheese, and lots of jalapenos, I can dig that or I can go with different kinds of meat or sour cream, but I like this a lot, you know?
[SPEAKER_06]: I like to have a little bit more interest in there because I'm gonna be fishing around, I don't wanna have some tomatoes, you can throw in some olives, yeah, you gotta be careful, your moisture content.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, this is true, too.
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, if you missed any part of the drink of the day or anything that we've done here on the show, best thing to do, you know what to do,
[SPEAKER_09]: All right, we will get back to the news of the day because we have somebody who is an expert on the elections and all kinds of fantastic Carts Things that are happening in the news the one the only Carolyn Fiddler is coming in I'm I'm so excited because literally she's one of those people who you've known for years Jared, but I've only known her through you know like talking and and you know like text-based situation.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_09]: So this is the first time I actually will actually talk with her and be like, well, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_06]: Almost IRL here at the politics.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, I mean, we are in real life.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's just, you know, we're in different locations.
[SPEAKER_09]: We are not in the same room, but, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, we're in the same room with you guys.
[SPEAKER_09]: And that's a good thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: So look, here's what we're going to do.
[SPEAKER_09]: Fresh up your drink.
[SPEAKER_09]: Go with, you got to, you know, do the thing, you know, we mentioned that earlier.
[SPEAKER_09]: Left writer centered.
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, we aim to please, you aim to please, and come on back with Jared
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thursday night here at the politics bar Jared Rizzi filling in for Jody Hamilton Sean Smith pierced with me as always you know The regular bar master here.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you, and no stranger to I mean this is this is a bar in the DC area So no stranger here on Fiddler joining us here because a communications director Democratic attorneys Association I am so glad welcome to the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thanks for being here.
[SPEAKER_06]: I am so delighted to be here.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for having me
[SPEAKER_06]: We just did the drink of the day and it was a margarita.
[SPEAKER_06]: I need to know before we get into anything else What's what's your margarita order?
[SPEAKER_06]: I know you're a wine person more than more than a lot of other things But if you're having a margarita, where are you going with that if I'm having a margarita?
[SPEAKER_02]: I definitely want to spicy if that's at all possible.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I said to he and we need to hean in this There you go, yes, yep, yes, and if I really have my brother I think this makes it technically not really a margarita.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to have some mascara there
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, they're looking at you on what did I say.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you were a men's cow man.
[SPEAKER_09]: We were talking about, look, look, one of one of my oldest, I've known him literally since junior high in high school.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if you're familiar with Ted Genoese, the author, and journalist who does fantastic stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: He had a book out earlier this year, Kid United is basically the definitive history of Tequila called Tequila Wars.
[SPEAKER_09]: Jose Cuervo and the bloody struggle for the spirit of Mexico and get his a gift or something, whatever.
[SPEAKER_09]: he was here in the tequila bar he was here at the politics bar yet called to go he was here at the politics bar earlier this year talking about that so you know we we know a little bit about tequila and margaritas well Carolyn's an attorney Sean so first of all you have to respect that and second of all her book is tequila mockingbird that's the different
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm so sorry, everybody has their passions, everybody has their passions, ours, of course, obviously around here, it is the politics of our politics is what well that's true to for that matter, but one of the things that we absolutely love.
[SPEAKER_09]: We were admitting this to you.
[SPEAKER_09]: I admitted this to you when you came into the bar.
[SPEAKER_09]: Jared and I are probably, you used to do the state's newsletter.
[SPEAKER_09]: You are now with the Democratic Attorney General's Association.
[SPEAKER_09]: Daga is an easier way to put it and you do some fantastic work for them.
[SPEAKER_09]: But you have been a fan of politics at the state level for years.
[SPEAKER_09]: And Jared and I are basically like two of the, the, you kind of faded off doing a little bit of the state's newsletter.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we're like two of the remaining subscribers.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're like, bro, like, yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, state politics, baby.
[SPEAKER_09]: So that's, you know, everybody's got their passions, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: What did I am going to bring it back?
[SPEAKER_02]: It remains a passion of mine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was over the moon to see the house results in Virginia, and the assembly results in New Jersey, so.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God, yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was what we get into specific policies.
[SPEAKER_06]: Obviously, this was a big, we're Thursday.
[SPEAKER_06]: So people have already had this kind of celebratory phase.
[SPEAKER_06]: But where are we, because this is a real ground swell.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is different than other, you know, surges we've seen in the past.
[SPEAKER_06]: How is it different?
[SPEAKER_06]: How is, you know, how are our delegates celebrating in ways that they weren't celebrating before?
[SPEAKER_02]: It is different.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's, I think it's easy to compare it to like 2017 when Democrats picked up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh gosh, 15 of seats in the in the state house.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's in Virginia, yes, we're nation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's the delegates.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it wasn't quite to get enough to give Democrats majority in the house that year it would have been the first time since.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh god, the 90s.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it got to most of the way there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a ridiculous number of sheets to pick up in a single night.
[SPEAKER_02]: We saw something even more ridiculous on this day.
[SPEAKER_02]: like 13 seats, Democrats already had a majority in the same house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, for anyone watching that app, no, it's okay, look, we love that.
[SPEAKER_09]: The judge, Jody's cat oftentimes will come right up and put her butt right in front of the camera.
[SPEAKER_09]: So everybody here at the politics bar is well aware of cat, but we're fine with that.
[SPEAKER_09]: We, we use the my dog rooms around here.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's all good.
[SPEAKER_09]: No worries.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fabulous.
[SPEAKER_02]: She just likes to meet people.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's very social.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, look, we love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's part of the reason you hang out on a bar.
[SPEAKER_06]: I saw a note no stranger to a little bit of shot and Freud and Sean I were joking about Scorpio season earlier.
[SPEAKER_06]: The state center Louise Luck was saying that he was Lucas.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was a legend.
[SPEAKER_06]: Please Lucas is a legend and her blue sky about.
[SPEAKER_06]: We talked about that.
[SPEAKER_06]: House of delegates for publicans need to be grateful for the opportunity district that we might leave for that.
[SPEAKER_09]: For those of you who missed it yesterday, we talked about this in the wake of the election.
[SPEAKER_09]: So Louise Lucas is she is your auntie that not even the devil would snatch.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, you know, she is she is she is she is the the hyper typical black woman you do not want to have with and she happens to be the the Democratic state Senate leader here in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
[SPEAKER_09]: And so, you know, these things are rolling in the 13th season.
[SPEAKER_09]: You mentioned Carol to Rollin' in, and she just puts out this nice graphic of Virginia License plate that just says 10-1.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then she says, y'all remember when Republicans put all the blacks in the state here in a watermelon district can say, you should be grateful to have that one district.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then she said, how you think they're gonna feel when we do the same thing?
[SPEAKER_09]: And it's just one of those things where you know that some of those Republicans are just screaming going, you're on fire.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, social media was doesn't know it, but social media was created for Luis Lucas.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been in and around state politics, Virginia, longer than I dare to admit, but even back in the year 2000, she was already a legend.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now she's just something else entirely.
[SPEAKER_09]: Was it, was it just, was it just Virginia?
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, as somebody who knows state politics, and he's involved with the Democratic Attorney General's association.
[SPEAKER_09]: Was it, it wasn't just Virginia, was it?
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, was it, we saw the turnout in California.
[SPEAKER_09]: We saw that the turnout in New York City.
[SPEAKER_09]: But was it just some of the bigger places or did we get a lot of response of the democratic side from everywhere from from main to Kansas to I mean am I wrong on this you are so right it was it was an amazing night in ways that people are even barely even talking about yet and a lot of this stuff is way down ballots so it is he kind of
[SPEAKER_02]: easy to kind of flip over with your brain.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there was there are a couple of ballot measures in Maine, one that established red flag laws to keep guns out of the hands of people who like, like, obviously should not have guns from and and that passed and there was another ballot measure that would have restricted voting and that one did not.
[SPEAKER_02]: We love to see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But okay people think main okay that's a blue state right it's actually not I would not characterize more of a purpose Yeah, it's very powerful but let's take a look at Georgia
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, Georgia had a couple of statewide races for the public utilities commission or public services commission.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, and not the kind of sexy race that usually garners national attention.
[SPEAKER_02]: One that was really important, especially with a power grid, the way the Georgia is right.
[SPEAKER_09]: First time I think since the 90s, I think in a non-centred race, the Democrats have won in a statewide race in Georgia, I believe.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's definitely been a long time.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's been a long time.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, okay, I'm gonna draw a line in the sand and say, okay, we've done our living out.
[SPEAKER_06]: And now let's turn towards some policy stuff because obviously attorneys general have been leading this fight at the national level against everything that the Trump administration is doing and obviously they're doing quite a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: everything illegal.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right, right, right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Do you have do you have do you have do you have have I knew that there was there was something going on as we were getting ready here at the bar earlier today with the snap stuff from a judge in Rhode Island.
[SPEAKER_09]: I know that dog has been on the case there.
[SPEAKER_09]: The the Democratic Attorney General's Association has really been the ones that have been trying to hold the Trump regime's feet to the fire and say, look dude, pan yo bills, making sure that people have food is not optional.
[SPEAKER_09]: just shut up and do it.
[SPEAKER_09]: But I didn't catch the update.
[SPEAKER_09]: Can you fill us in on what happened today?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, actually it's late breaking.
[SPEAKER_02]: I only just heard about it myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so the judge and wrote, I don't know where it's now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm about to get really complicated.
[SPEAKER_02]: There were two different cases.
[SPEAKER_02]: One brought by the AG, the other one brought by some other folks.
[SPEAKER_02]: The case that was in Rhode Island, that federal judge said, Hey, you can't actually do the partial stat benefits.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to fund all the stat benefits for October from administrations.
[SPEAKER_09]: So let's go.
[SPEAKER_09]: And didn't, and didn't say, you know, that hey, you can take two, three weeks.
[SPEAKER_09]: They said, snap to it, get it done, get them people fed now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I see what you did there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I do what I can.
[SPEAKER_05]: Clever.
[SPEAKER_06]: Please hear it to politics, bar.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[SPEAKER_06]: Was that a self-ting Sean?
[SPEAKER_06]: Did you give yourself the day on the one who's got the button bar right now on this side of the bar?
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm just saying it's behind, it's behind this edge of the bar.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's why it's on right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sean, you know, kind of like, like, in your own tweet.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just saying.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not too proud to admit that in front of Carolyn that when I guess it's with the ding I am so happy but I just had to give it to you know, we give you the ding with us will look we give the ding with necessary and the
[SPEAKER_09]: And of course, if you eat the full sandwich, like we were talking about earlier, then we give you the support, exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: So now eating now that is a full sandwich is technically a weapon in no, no, no, no, no, no, you cannot slap the CBP guy with your salami that is not loved.
[SPEAKER_09]: Terrible.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so now that was a self buzzer.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I do appreciate the stored balance.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm fair.
[SPEAKER_09]: When I'm right, I'm right, I'm I'm wrong.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm I'm I'm in a parallel.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's talk about what's in the future for people who are thinking, okay, we've got a years worth of runway.
[SPEAKER_06]: Republicans are clearly going to try at the state and federal level to mess with elections to limit the franchise for as many people as possible.
[SPEAKER_06]: We've seen this in college towns.
[SPEAKER_06]: We've seen this all over the place, frankly.
[SPEAKER_06]: What are the battlefields that you are focused on the most?
[SPEAKER_06]: What are the areas that people should really be paying attention to for the next 12 months?
[SPEAKER_06]: Because as you know, as a, you know, lifelong Virginia, there's just another election in like 20 minutes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so it's the episode where it's, you know, it's, there's an attack every 33 minutes from the silence.
[SPEAKER_06]: So we just kind of figure it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, basically, yeah, elections over here, Virginia, that's how we mark the passage of time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, forget New Year's.
[SPEAKER_09]: election year every year ding ding ding.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you're not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so so many things are happening all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Trump administration does bad things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, the Democratic attorney's general.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, when he, when the bad things also are illegal things.
[SPEAKER_02]: They take him to court over it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you are very right to bring up election protection and the shenanigans that we think the Trump administration is very likely to pull the advance of the midterms, and including not just an advance of the midterms, but like on the election day probably he has so many weapons available to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: In terms of messing with elections and how they're administered and putting ice agents outside of polling places and I expect to see kind of all of this last that next year and it should scare people people should be really worried about it.
[SPEAKER_09]: But now worried should they be concerned, and if they are concerned, what can individual people do?
[SPEAKER_09]: Are there places or there, there things that Daga has got out there resources that they can see is there people that they should contact.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, what can people do about some of this stuff?
[SPEAKER_02]: That is a great question.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a lot that people can do and it's going to feel like sort of small small ball and and and No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_02]: to get involved in the elections process, the elections administration process rather.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can contact your secretary of state and see if you can help facilitate like voter breadstrives locally, things like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can just make sure that everyone you know has a plan to vote.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, can basically crawl to my precincts and I'm very lucky, but not everyone can do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I grew up in a very small town and everyone had to drive to go vote and not everyone has access to a car or is able to drive.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Make sure everyone you know has a plan about and help facilitate help get them to the ballot box.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And meanwhile, the attorney general are certainly planning around things that we are concerned.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Secretary, they're working closely with Secretary of State, who, also, who administer elections on the statewide level and have a lens into this and can do a lot themselves to help safeguard against some of the Trump shenanigans, but in the end when the shenanigans happen and the Secretary of State gets targeted.
[SPEAKER_02]: or whatever, it's a turning general who are in the courtroom defending them and standing up for people's actual right to cast ballots, something that the Trump administration seems to think that up certain people should have.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: We, we decide from going ahead.
[SPEAKER_06]: Go ahead.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, go
[SPEAKER_06]: How dare you sign from right to vote.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, we we're we're going to take a break in a minute and I want to talk about when we come back if you can stay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Can you stay because I want to talk about other areas, whether it's you know.
[SPEAKER_06]: trans rights immigrants rights reproductive rights.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's going to be the the gamut of things that people give a damn about that are under attack from this administration.
[SPEAKER_06]: And again, I know that there's policy.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know that there's work being done.
[SPEAKER_06]: I also want to talk about, again, touching on the Virginia side of things.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've been seeing a lot of Republicans say that they're very, very scared about the incoming attorney general in Virginia.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I want to talk about that.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's the thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was
[SPEAKER_06]: I couldn't even get through it with a straight face.
[SPEAKER_06]: I do want to talk about the newest member of your group here, Carolyn, and whether we can make sure that he doesn't violate any terms of service agreements in there.
[SPEAKER_06]: Also, you can have that conversation as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm Jared Rizzi, filling in for Jody Hamilton, Sean Smith Pierce here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a Thursday night.
[SPEAKER_06]: We've got Carolyn Fiddler who's sticking around for one more segment here.
[SPEAKER_06]: Talk about everything.
[SPEAKER_06]: The Democratic attorneys general are doing to protect.
[SPEAKER_06]: Quite a few things, frankly, it's all under a text, so I do everything, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's everything, exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's call it Thursday night at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_09]: Fresh and you'll drink and do what you gotta do.
[SPEAKER_09]: Everything's on.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hey, look, she knows it all.
[SPEAKER_09]: Literally, she is that smart.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I will credit her with that, no kidding.
[SPEAKER_09]: So look, freshly drink.
[SPEAKER_09]: Do what you gotta do.
[SPEAKER_09]: Dance if you wish.
[SPEAKER_09]: Come on back for last call at the politics bar.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's Thursday night here at the politics bar, I'm Jared Rizion for Jodie Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's out on special assignment tonight.
[SPEAKER_06]: Ha ha ha.
[SPEAKER_06]: John Smith Pierce joining at the bar as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's the one with the with the rag in his hands cleaning those glasses.
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[SPEAKER_06]: some less jovial music because this is I have a serious well you know this is this is the music that lie made for us you know I understand what you have so I'm thinking like like not quite imperial march like there's the way there something really ominous okay
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, the the the darkest thing that I have is okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: So let's I'll just give it I'll just give it my best intonation Here here's something from I'm I'm this is a portal into the health site that is former Twitter if you like me are Republican and Northern Virginia
[SPEAKER_06]: The only thing preventing several of your neighbors from murdering you is their fear of getting caught.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is not hyperbole.
[SPEAKER_06]: They are proudly admitting it to officers.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a Republican in Northern Virginia.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_06]: I live among these people.
[SPEAKER_06]: The extent to which they fantasize about hurting Republicans, genuinely hard to convince.
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you kidding me?
[SPEAKER_06]: Was this actually on Twitter or somebody was saying this?
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, learning tonight that not long after a major conservative figure gets assassinated.
[SPEAKER_06]: By the way, we're still, we're still dread really.
[SPEAKER_06]: The Democrat candidate.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know it's a Republican because they say Democrats and it's just a Democratic party.
[SPEAKER_06]: In a state can fantasize about them, fantasize about murdering the children of his people.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm, you know what, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't, I can't do that, boys.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I'm, I'm calling.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm calling that.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what?
[SPEAKER_09]: the hell that's the question you can take for those for those for those for those people who are an in Virginia, what you should for providing some kind of this kind of building scaffold around this like on the Acropolis look so so the idea was in in Virginia.
[SPEAKER_09]: Republicans that there is currently he will be leaving a a Republican attorney general and the political thing around this Was was regarding a text scandal with the Democratic now.
[SPEAKER_09]: We won the in- Candle is very generous Well, that's what that's why I said scandal that this is what they called it and and well You can explain it better than I can care on cuz I mean obviously we're gonna have a new Democratic AG here in Virginia Okay, okay, I want to say I did say Sean was gonna provide the original context
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, people with people who wanted Virginia didn't necessarily know.
[SPEAKER_09]: So what do you want to know, what the hell?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what the hell?
[SPEAKER_02]: But you're, you're correct to put air quotes around scandal for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, who of all guys is not sent texts that we certainly do not want getting out there, but sometimes they get out there and Jay Jones apologized, he took responsibility for saying really, really bad thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: He just said some mad, he got, he got mad, he said some hate things, right?
[SPEAKER_09]: that nobody in the media pointed out other than a few people, including myself, an article that was literally in the Washington Post back when it was legitimate, that the current Republican attorney general here in Virginia basically told cops, no, it's okay, you go ahead and kill people, you could shoot him, it's okay, did I, did I somehow miss somebody actually covering that?
[SPEAKER_09]: Is it, did I miss?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's, you're right.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I think these Republicans and they're yeah, who says cops can kill people and yet they're saying, what the black man said, some bad words, yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I kept going, really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Related outrage, the selective outrage around all of this just reveals so much about the people who are like, oh no, how can he possibly be the attorney general because he was human and said something he shouldn't have, and whoa, he apologized for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Imagine people taking responsibility for things that they think of, how wild is that?
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, that explains why Republicans were having such a fit about it.
[SPEAKER_09]: The idea
[SPEAKER_06]: I think the hard part for me is that it's clear that we are all living downstream of a political climate that is just dumping a lot of stuff in the river, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like it's it's I'm not going to point out, you know, who's president and I'm certainly not going to point out other people who may be the lion's share of this, but there's really it's not great, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like there's there's stuff that frankly is dangerous to say and dangerous to
[SPEAKER_06]: This doesn't even rise to me, to me, not trying to give you a pass here, but like this does not rise to the level of give a damn that I would expect on something that is a scandal in the same, you know, time frame that we're living in when we're like bombing people in the Caribbean or bulldozing entire parts of the White House.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know, it just doesn't really like scratch that itch for me.
[SPEAKER_06]: Am I, am I, should I be recalibrating for, for, for, for text based scandal in 2025?
[SPEAKER_06]: You know that that's what we're talking about is what you to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay, calibrate the think that certain things that are not even comparable to the things that Republicans are doing or have said themselves is actually,
[SPEAKER_02]: trying to make this into a scandal.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of his ads after this happened were about the text.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: He tried to, he tried to write it in the AG debate.
[SPEAKER_02]: He, uh, even even, even other candidates tried to cash in on, on, on this, on the, on the situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: And.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and then it's just there's so many other there's so many other there's so many other things that are going on a lot of people don't necessarily realize how active attorneys general are and it is attorney's general it is not attorney general it's attorneys general folks let's let's let's do what we did in the in the last segment which is go hey we've had a little bit of fun let's now pivot to what's the hard work that's coming up because we we talked a little bit about voting
[SPEAKER_06]: And, and certainly there are a lot of fronts on which that's being fought from Democratic AGs around the country, but there's, you know, reproductive rights, you know, you talk about certainly a lot of issues around trans people.
[SPEAKER_06]: And again, talk about things that Republicans want to blow into a much larger thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: What was not successful by the way, areas, I can make this into the bumper sticker thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: What can that?
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, three, three things that democratic attorney generals, what is Doug doing for us?
[SPEAKER_09]: Because a lot of people go, I don't know, we're not attorney general does, and they don't.
[SPEAKER_09]: A lot of people don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, they are protecting your fundamental rights and freedoms.
[SPEAKER_02]: They all swear, you know, for the US Constitution, just like the president did, but can't seem to remember that he did.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they are protecting Americans, fundamental rights and freedoms.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are protecting Americans wallet.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of a thing people don't know that A.G.s do.
[SPEAKER_02]: a large part of their function involves consumer protection, which doesn't sound very sexy by itself, but it's protecting consumers from bad actions they've gotten tons of money for renters, who are subject to evil landlords, they've gotten money from companies that have been abusing their users, they hold folks accountable and to the benefit of the people they serve.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they hold lawless administrations accountable.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's true fat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Democratic Attorney General sued Biden too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when they felt that he was stepping out of, he was doing something on lawful that harm folks in their states.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, All right, we got to.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're
[SPEAKER_09]: I guess against the Trump administration, but you're also saying that they find lawsuits against Biden and against Obama back in the day and so Democrats are, you know, anybody doesn't matter what party if they're doing it wrong.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're saying this is one of the things that has been it's been fun to watch a lot of mainstream media finally catch on to this boat.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's been like, I was, I was a Jody and I were laughing about this so much yesterday.
[SPEAKER_09]: This was absolutely hilarious.
[SPEAKER_09]: The two words that we've been saying for quite a while, since we opened the bar even, that Democrats need to be paying attention to.
[SPEAKER_09]: It needs to be the mantra of every Democrat is affordability and accountability.
[SPEAKER_09]: And that's agencies, exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's a terrible, so that's, that's exactly what I'm like.
[SPEAKER_09]: Look at that, yeah, because that's where it's going, because I'm going, so really, when people think about accountability, that's what they need to be thinking about is their attorney general.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly right.
[SPEAKER_02]: They work every day to hold the bad guys and whoever, whoever the bad guy happens to be, is it a big corporation?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it the Trump administration?
[SPEAKER_02]: You're a bad guy, you break the law.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to hold you accountable, period.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's turn on leading up to 2026 where a year out is there anything an issue or issues that you think are going to percolate up to people's awareness that are not currently there.
[SPEAKER_06]: What should we kind of big, big picture view, things that frankly may not be on people's radar, but should be if they're going to be paying attention.
[SPEAKER_06]: Obviously people who are here at the bar will be paying attention.
[SPEAKER_06]: How can they be the smart ones at the bar and make sure that they can impress other people at the bar?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we certainly saw a little bit of this already on Tuesday, but it's certainly going to swell into next year, especially as the many, many things that Trump does to tank the economy, like start really taking hold.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're already seeing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're already feeling it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Although, uh, Democratic AGs may be able to make the tariffs go away if
[SPEAKER_02]: Trump is doing many other things to harm the economy as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Affordability is a real motivator in motivated voters of Virginia.
[SPEAKER_02]: It clearly motivated folks in Georgia.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were mad at Republicans for, you know, being responsible for ray hikes in the further electric bills.
[SPEAKER_02]: So affordability is going to be a huge, huge thing, and you know, as someone who works selects a Democratic attorney's general, that is a good thing for us because Democrat attorney's general fight every day to make sure folks are protected from bad guys who are trying to tap into their wallets.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, and it's funny because it does feel like the Republican machine right now is has been designed in a lab to pick your pocket in every way possible, whether it's the president, growing about Walmart shrinkflation at the White House, like, oh, the Turkey's cheaper this year, the, you know, the Turkey that's, uh, because it's three times a month.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's like,
[SPEAKER_06]: or just the idea that we're going to accept no consumer protections, we've shut down federal consumer protection, consumer financial protection bureau, we're doing so little on that front at the federal level under this administration.
[SPEAKER_06]: It feels like you've got almost spoiled for targets,
[SPEAKER_06]: So I guess good luck never, you know, sleeping again, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
[SPEAKER_06]: As you're as we're in a winding down here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, you know, but you're completely right, that's a huge gap that the Trump administration has created in terms of protecting human beings from corporations trying to pick their pockets.
[SPEAKER_02]: The reflection is a major part of what a democratic attorney general.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you doing and we'll be doing into the coming year.
[SPEAKER_09]: And you actually do a lot more of it because as you were saying, the CFPB is is been been neutered effectively.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would say it's always been a really big part of their portfolio, so to speak, but it's yeah, it's now a bigger part of it, a portfolio that is ever expanding with all the illegal things that Trump is doing, plus the rest of their jobs.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's a
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, not a lot of downtime, let's say.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's, well, unfortunately, I guess we don't get to talk about all the other good work.
[SPEAKER_09]: We can do, we can do some after hours.
[SPEAKER_09]: If Carolyn has a little extra time, we can do after hours.
[SPEAKER_09]: But in order to do that, you guys will have to listen.
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[SPEAKER_09]: We'll do a few more minutes with Carolyn.
[SPEAKER_09]: We can talk about a few other things.
[SPEAKER_09]: Maybe maybe some of her favorite stuff from the bar cart, because when we happen to know that you like wine, you like drinks,
[SPEAKER_09]: You are a very very well-versed in all kinds of drinks and things in that nature, so I went to law school, come on.
[SPEAKER_09]: All right, Carolyn's hanging around with us, and for a little bit longer on the after hours.
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[SPEAKER_09]: All right, Carolyn's hanging out with us.
[SPEAKER_09]: Jared is gonna be hanging out with us, and then we're gonna have to have both of you guys back at some point in time.
[SPEAKER_09]: Jody will be back tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_09]: We will have Karen and Anita in the bar.
[SPEAKER_09]: Jared, we are always honored to have you fill in for either Jody or me, because you know what you're doing, man.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's very happy to be here.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's been on our privilege.
[SPEAKER_09]: Excellent.
[SPEAKER_09]: We are continuing this in the after-hour shortly for those of you who are listening on the radio.
[SPEAKER_09]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_09]: You know what to do.
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