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[SPEAKER_02]: It's election day!
[SPEAKER_02]: You're such a nerd.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I may be, but you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the one-day thing you're aware of.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have an election where you are.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can go stick it to whoever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or you can go, you know, say, hey, I'm in favor of democracy.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the day you as an American have the most amount of power.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, as my mother used to say, those who do not vote cannot bitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: So shut up and vote.
[SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise shut up and stay home.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just say and don't do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't do the latter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't shut up and stay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going vote.
[SPEAKER_02]: Poles are open until well, we'll give you the polling details.
[SPEAKER_02]: We also happen to have a Glenn Kirchner in.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been having some legal questions.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been kind of bouncing and Glenn's like, like, I just kind of the bars.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know what you enjoyed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, a lot easier that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, thank you to everybody who is listening to us on all of our great radio affiliates.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whether you are coming to us from WCPTA, M820 in Chicago, or AM950, Minneapolis, St. Paul, maybe you're listening to Georgia now, radio in Atlanta, or D2, we're talking Tennessee, or progressive voices radio worldwide, wherever you happen to be, or maybe you're one of those future people.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a few future people, actually.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, seven, darling from Denver, by the way, um, she's on the voicemail.
[SPEAKER_02]: She said that she is a, a future person I believe.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, she called to, you know, correct our mispronunciation of sewing.
[SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, she also said that it's nice to her to do.
[SPEAKER_05]: We made that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't mind.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just Jody and I here behind the bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not like we have managers.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like we have editors or produce, well, I mean, we do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am your producer and you are my producer.
[SPEAKER_02]: But other than that, it's just the two of us.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if we both get it wrong, that's kind of how that sits.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's how it works.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, we're glad you guys are coming into the bar and producing for us and hanging out and helping us.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully all have gone and voted today.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you have not, there is still, well, okay, it depends.
[SPEAKER_02]: If there are future people, maybe they haven't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they're listening to us on Wednesday, in which case the vote is already know what happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But still.
[SPEAKER_02]: Assuming you are listening to us on early Tuesday evening.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me run down the pole closing times for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I am running down your poles.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop that with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop laughing.
[SPEAKER_02]: You and you in the corner of there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pulse close in Virginia tonight at 7 p.m. local time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pulse close in New Jersey and Pennsylvania tonight at 8 p.m. local time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pulse close in New York City tonight at 9 p.m. local time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pulse close in Minneapolis at 8 p.m. local time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pulse close in California at 8 p.m.
[SPEAKER_02]: here's a deal if you're not quite sure polls close in most places seven eight or nine o'clock check your local area you can actually go to the news on tap today the very first link of the story that we have there is voting info it's i will vote dot com you can check out where to vote if you don't know your uh information hotline information in case you see some magamasters trying to stop other people to vote
[SPEAKER_02]: I realize it may be late in the day for some folks, but some folks may, they may know the subjects, they may know the candidates, they just were like, oh, crap, I forgot what they was.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And remember, if you're already in line, I believe in every state.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you're already in line before the polls close, you should be able to vote, unlike anybody intimidate you to get out of line if you're still.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you're in line and it's 8 p.m. and you have not been able to vote, stay in that line.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jodie is right.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you inline before the end of a closing time, it counts like being in the building in the booth.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you inline, stay in line, vote.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anybody tell you differently, all right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, even with the, are all the polls back open in New Jersey after those months, uh, there was we have stories on that in the news on tap today as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: This morning, uh, there were, uh, some temporary bomb threats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I know, uh, you were at Steph's show this morning when I believe Sue and Rockville called in and said that they want to her family members up in New Jersey, uh, her crankets school.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, come on, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: That, that is just that,
[SPEAKER_02]: That is literally one of the stupidest things that you could possibly do.
[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, bomb threat alone, dumb, but second of all, a lot of polling places are at schools.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're telling people, on Election Day, already a big important day, people are kind of pumped up, tense a little bit anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're telling them that on Election Day, you're going to take their time away.
[SPEAKER_02]: because you're threatening their children, and how dumb do you have to be to do that seriously?
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, man.
[SPEAKER_05]: Amen.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, obviously it's not Democrats that are doing this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, people that are in favor of saying my share.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care what their motivation is.
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole thing to me is, don't do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't screw up somebody else's.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is democracy in action, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you have an issue, the thing to do today is not, I'm going to do a bomb threat.
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing to today is go to the polls.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then if you really feel strongly about something, after you voted, maybe you voted early, maybe you already voted before today you ever got here.
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing you do is get your ass out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can literally, okay, I don't mean drag.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't mean grab somebody, I'm dragging.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do mean that you can take people in your vehicle.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can borrow a friend's vehicle.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can get a pile of you in a rent a van.
[SPEAKER_02]: I literally, I know of people done this for, and go around and take people up and take them to the polls.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mhm.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the idea of all of these potential things that you could be doing to advocate for your position so that your position or that the candidates who support your position wins.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you decide, I got a good idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to fall in on me a bomb threat.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mhm.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's also to keep polls close so that people can't vote.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the whole point of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like they think they're not going to do a check and reopen the polls.
[SPEAKER_02]: What happened in in remember in Georgia in 24, a lot of polling places were close for hours on and oh I know and that's part of the reason that some of those people stayed in line for seven and eight hours and thank God they did but it's it's like that jackass who when I worked at at Randy show made you know the the worst of the death threats that I've had and you know made some very personal comments and fed up for a whole bunch of personal information.
[SPEAKER_02]: And eventually we found out the reason that he did it was he goes, well, I figured if there was no producer there, they'd just shut the show down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, dumbass, you actually don't think that she would have gone out and hired somebody else if I would have quit.
[SPEAKER_02]: F and more on.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't think they're going to check the polling places and then say once they're cleared open a backup, how stupid do you have to be to do a bomb threat on election day, especially at a school.
[SPEAKER_02]: as usual.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jodie is right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, see, look, this is, this is one of the reasons she and I get along so well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, just be good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Be, you know, this is today is the day where you have the power.
[SPEAKER_02]: All you got to do is go out and actually use the power.
[SPEAKER_02]: And be smart about your vote.
[SPEAKER_02]: For God's sake, please be smart about your vote.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you know, there, there are a lot of races going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, there have been some interesting checks on some of these stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know some of the other folks in media have have done some checks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: This one was, uh, I believe earlier today.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was on MSNBC.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here, I got this off the DVR.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's Bamberg.
[SPEAKER_06]: She out there doing what she's supposed to do.
[SPEAKER_06]: See,
[SPEAKER_02]: that's my position on the Virginia governor's race and that guy and I obviously share the same thing so yes band burger seems to be doing well shareles doing pretty well as well she actually voted and they had her on fox earlier today talk about the race yeah one of one of the two words jodied that you and I have said are the keys to democratic focus for the next
[SPEAKER_02]: what ever for for the ongoing forever right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are the two big words?
[SPEAKER_02]: A portability and accountability.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here, listen to Mikey Cheryl.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so this race has been about affordability and that's because I speak to thousands and thousands of New Jersey and sometimes today.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing on their minds is cost both.
[SPEAKER_00]: utility cuts, housing cuts, healthcare costs, and then how they keep getting worse under this administration with the tariffs with one big beautiful bill with the recent attacks on the Gateway Tunnel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at it, and she mentioned tariffs by the way, which that's a legal issue that's going to be at the Supreme Court tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we are definitely going to talk to Glenn Kirchner a little bit later about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got that Pasi Kamatata's question from last week.
[SPEAKER_02]: He can actually answer it here in the bar tonight.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's always nice to have somebody from the legal bar in the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely, and we can also ask him about the fact that Donald came out this morning and said he's not going to release the snap benefit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, I'm like, dude, you don't have a choice.
[SPEAKER_02]: So sometimes I don't think these people quite understand that they're, who are they going to arrest?
[SPEAKER_02]: They can't arrest Donald?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but they can't arrest that culture.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they can arrest a secretary of agriculture.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this, but I'm fine with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Throw it, throw it in a who's cow.
[SPEAKER_02]: because she was willing to release the money.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but throw her, throw her in jail for 24 hours, or 40 hours, whoever long it takes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And among other things, what that will do is it will say to all of the other members of Trump's cabinet, you can either follow the law.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or would you tell your ass, and then you follow the law?
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, the choice is do what Trump says, which is illegal, clearly because judges have rolled against him, or follow the law and tell him to pound sand.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are your choices, sweet cheeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to see.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they, yes, it's going to make for a very, very uncomfortable position for them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't care, because that's the job.
[SPEAKER_02]: Their job is to follow the law.
[SPEAKER_02]: Their job is not to follow him.
[SPEAKER_02]: We do not have a king.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a democracy.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to talk about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see, because that actually kind of goes along with the the Posse Comitatus thing too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, by the way, New York City is not the only place in this country having mayoral races right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the ATL folks who are listening down there, you know where you're at folks listening on, Georgia now radio.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a mayoral race.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a 15 I think city council spots open.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also in the Twin Cities, A M 950 country, you get
[SPEAKER_02]: big mayoral race.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a piece on that in the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know how you feel about that, Jody, about Democrats going against Democrats, some or more, um, center left, some or more, maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, uh, Elizabeth Warren style progressive versus Bernie standard style progressive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, choices.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a choice.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, here in in California.
[SPEAKER_05]: it's the two top people that get the most right it's called a jungle primary right right and so it could either be to republicans or two democrats so it's and it's right who independence so it's it's that's how we do it here it's mainly democrats because right we're talking about democratic state but yeah we started that a few years ago so i mean we have to choose a lot with the same kind of thing only it's not a primary it's
[SPEAKER_02]: In places like Minneapolis, though, the whole thing there is, they also have it's a ranked choice thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we should have had that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, on ID2, because it's made for a different kind of election, where they have 4 candidates who are running for mayor there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Three of them have run a little bit more of a ranked choice style campaign.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked about that before.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're ranked choice style campaigns are more...
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, hey, um, you know, if you don't rank me, rank these guys or what they did in New York right well the thing is is that that I guess the current Mayor Jacob fries been running a little bit more of a traditional style campaign so I don't know it's it will we'll see how that goes you guys got to figure that one out up there in the cities.
[SPEAKER_02]: So just just just to let you know, but wherever you are
[SPEAKER_02]: We are very glad that you have voted hopefully, and, you know, it's, there's a piece in here from David Graham, and happens to be the Atlantic.
[SPEAKER_02]: We gave you guys a gift link to that, basically every election.
[SPEAKER_02]: is not just a state and local election now, they're all tied to Trump.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're hearing from a lot of the news media folks that a lot of people are saying not only is my vote about whatever the local or state issue is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's also about sending a message to Trump and MAGA that they can pound sand.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, if you haven't voted and you still got time, get your ice out there and vote, aye?
[SPEAKER_02]: Amen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, we have a pistol and cursor coming in next, we are going to talk all about the legal wars going on because there is the war in the courts.
[SPEAKER_02]: And on the streets and Glenn knows all about the well technically I think he probably knows all about both because you know, he's you know buff and and Tough and you know, actually I'll talk to him about Pete Dominic too because they will have that shiny head thing Anyway, look it's Tuesday night Jody and I are here.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got Glenn Kersner We got more news on tabs stick around get your drink refresh hang on.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the politics bark on a Tuesday night
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the Palatex Bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tuesday night's election nights, here at the Palatex Bar, and yes, we will be talking little elections.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're also talking a little bit of law with one of our favorite members of the Palatex Bar legal bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Glenn Kirchner, in the house again.
[SPEAKER_02]: on a Tuesday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Glenn, how are you doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: You voted, obviously.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure I know you did.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean early voting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I voted early here in Virginia.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really looking forward to the return starting to roll in because I have a good feeling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Me team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Me too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe, you voted in California.
[SPEAKER_02]: Prop 50.
[SPEAKER_02]: I voted weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I voted I voted last weekend Glenn here in in the Virginia.
[SPEAKER_02]: You and I are not too far away from each other actually, but I am I am stoked.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping that it goes well for pretty much Democrats everywhere across the country.
[SPEAKER_02]: But of course there are obviously legal issues going on Trump is doing whatever he.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like he's waging war.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, except, you know, or at least he's having other people do it in the courts for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jody was, you were mentioning this earlier about the, the snap thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's, he, he trothed out today that he's not going to release the snap money that the Department of Agriculture wants to do because a court has ordered it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what can we do?
[SPEAKER_01]: So the court has ordered it.
[SPEAKER_01]: the DOJ prosecutors filed with the court a notice that they would be at least partially making snap payments and after they made those representations to the court which are the official representations mine you to the court not what Donald Trump post on his little social media platform those are not court filings
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the judge will probably haul in the DOJ lawyers and say, I have a court filing here saying you're complying with my order at least in part and you're going to begin to release this emergency snap funding correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what do the DOJ lawyers say?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no dear leader, just, you know, ran it through the ministry of truth and apparently we're, we're not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this is the, the nerd lawyer in me, what they would have to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: was filed a new pleading saying we are changing our position, but that's the position they've already announced on the record.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're changing our official position because Donald Trump that he doesn't want to pay his damn bills.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now we have to change it because he was on the can and decided to host us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but I have to tell you, I love these abuses.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this may sound counterintuitive.
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want all of the abuses to come all at once because what's happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe as people are peeling away from Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not winning any new converts to his cause.
[SPEAKER_01]: When kids go hungry, when our health insurance prices spike,
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to continue to lose support.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you get any lower than 37% approval rating?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's been trying to find out.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to find out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want these abuses to accelerate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not that I want kids to go hungry, but that's what it's going to take to galvanize the opposition.
[SPEAKER_02]: that is it's yeah I get that here's the thing because this kind of goes along with this there there's a question I emailed you the other day and I think this goes along with the snap thing because if the law says you do X and it's illegal and Trump tells you to do it anyway kind of like if he tells his cabinet officials to do something like pay the damn snap bill and they don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can the court, for example, grab the Secretary of Ag and go, you're in prison now, at least for a couple of days.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're in jail.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you can, yeah, you can, you can grab them by the cabinet secretary.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can't say you're going to prison, but what you can say is that I'm going to institute contempt.
[SPEAKER_01]: proceedings will start out with civil contempt proceeding.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you will be forced to pay $X a day until you comply with my order.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you still defy my order, I will institute criminal contempt proceedings, meaning that you could actually land yourself in a jail cell.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we understand one another, you and judges have done that.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a judge, you know, in my, my backyard, Washington, DC, Judge Roy Slamberg is a lion in DC, just as circles.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has held cabinet secretaries in contempt.
[SPEAKER_01]: He held the entire dang EPA in contempt once for failing to abide by his orders.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there are judges who are willing to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we may begin to hear more about the C word, meaning contempt in the, yeah, please, you know, the beep me in the very near future.
[SPEAKER_01]: We may start hearing more about contempt.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the reason they can't do it with Donald because he's immune, correct?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's not immune from complying with court orders.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's immune from criminal prosecution.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, but if he were held in civil contempt, that is not a criminal prosecution, that is not something he can pardon himself for.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it can get really ugly.
[SPEAKER_01]: This battle can get really messy if Trump really wants to just begin openly to find court orders.
[SPEAKER_02]: So $2 becomes four becomes eight becomes six times the way to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because if you do it on a very short time scale, very quickly, you can get up to the kind of money that Elon Elon Musk has and and be like, I'm going to take all of it and suddenly it, it grabs them by the legal appeal.
[SPEAKER_05]: Gross whether snap.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're going to be, you know, they're going to need to stop benefits if it adds up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the, so going along with all of this then.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here is the big question.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got these ice monsters and CBP monsters all over the country.
[SPEAKER_02]: Roman and Chicago where our affiliates are there or Atlanta or the Twin Cities or wherever.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're panorama city today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Portland.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: if a national guard or any member of the service.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you and I are both veterans, Glenn, I know this.
[SPEAKER_02]: If any service member follows an unconstitutional order to engage in police action.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he wants them to do crowd control, which we know because a posse Comitatis is illegal.
[SPEAKER_02]: As I understand this, and this is the, this is the email that I wrote here the other day.
[SPEAKER_02]: As I understand this, there is no statute of limitations.
[SPEAKER_02]: on charging someone for violating posse comatatus and if that's the case so you know you remember the national guard Trump says I want you to go in there and beat those protesters and you do it and there's no statute of limitations on being charged could you potentially be charged you know you're you're 30 years old for the for the next 40 years at any point in time if the government suddenly decides you know what we were going to prosecute you big no what now we're going to drop the hammer on your ass
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that yes?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, unless Donald Trump pardons the people who carry out his unlawful like pre-carnations that you don't yet you I mean it wouldn't have to be a pre-part and on the last day in office he can say everyone in the United States military um... who uh... for example carried out the orders to kill human beings in international waters right received the presidential pardon
[SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately, with the Supreme Court saying the pardon power is one of those core constitutional functions that may not be questioned, doesn't matter how corruptly delivered the pardon is somebody could pay Trump a billion dollars for a pardon.
[SPEAKER_01]: and Donald Trump couldn't be prosecuted, nor could the person receiving the pardon be prosecuted.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, but it means that any of these people who take part and actually follow this illegal order.
[SPEAKER_02]: If Trump gives the illegal order, they do the action, and then suddenly he drops dead of a heart attack or a stroke or something like that, and they don't have a pardon.
[SPEAKER_02]: for the rest of their life at any point in time.
[SPEAKER_02]: The federal government said, you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: We weren't gonna come down on you.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: We decided to come down on you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what I will say is, you know, the soldiers are in a very, and when I say soldiers, I mean, all military members across all of the armed service, the soldiers, sailors, marines, Coast Guard members, national guard troops who are federalized, they're in a really tough spot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because for example, if they are told, you are deploying to the streets of Chicago.
[SPEAKER_01]: and they know that there is presently a court order in place prohibiting the National Guard from being deployed to the streets of Chicago.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do they do?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do they abide by the order they're given by their military leadership?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do they abide by the court order and refuse to comply with the military order?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[SPEAKER_01]: What we're doing, people need to know, the Donald Trump is damaging the military and putting military members at risk every minute of every day by playing the stupid, dictatorial game.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we just had two national guard members, a captain and a staff sergeant.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can stand up and announce publicly.
[SPEAKER_01]: we will not comply with unlawful orders to deploy to the streets of Chicago.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, they were instantly retaliated against, they were disciplined.
[SPEAKER_01]: The captain had his security clearance revoked, but they don't care because they announced
[SPEAKER_01]: We will abide by our oath of loyalty to the Constitution, not to dear leader.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need more of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need the men and women of the military to stand up to speak out, and maybe we can turn the tide against Donald Trump's reckless use of the military.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's a woman running in Chicago suburb who's national guard person and she said the same thing on I heard her say it on WCPT.
[SPEAKER_05]: She literally said it to Richard Chu saying no if they give me an illegal order I'm not I'm not abiding by it.
[SPEAKER_05]: But that's yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's always the choice.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is the choice that separates us as democracy from autocracy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is is when somebody says You could do this illegal thing and we say hey, no
[SPEAKER_02]: but we say no right and and that that makes the difference it doesn't mean that it's easy there are always consequences for there are consequences and that's why that's why I so desperately wanted to ask you that question Glenn because for all those people who are like yeah well he's the president and I just do what he says there are consequences
[SPEAKER_02]: for doing what you know is it legal and wrong even if the president himself or herself someday tells you to do it if it's wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: Abu Graib or just ask Lieutenant Cali from the Vietnam era.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was ordered to kill every man, woman, and child in the village, regardless of whether they pose a threat, regardless of whether they're armed.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he carried out the order and he directed others to carry out the order.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then what did he try to do in his defense?
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just obeying orders, and the court said, no, that's not a defense.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to need our version of the Nuremberg trials when this is fall over.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been asking people, you know, who are way more creative than me.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do we call our trials?
[SPEAKER_01]: The Nuremberg trials.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need our version.
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody's got to come up with a reconciliation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Truth and Reconciliation is about admitting that what you did and reconciling with those you victimized, but Truth and Reconciliation, at least as it applied to South African apartheid, was not really about grabbing everybody and holding them accountable, and I used this word advisedly, punishing them for what they did.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Truth and Reconciliation is important,
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe maybe the American Accountability Dryles, I'd be fine with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that the A, A, A, A, T, yeah?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we got to come up with something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because that, those are, those are the two words going that we seem to be finding a lot of, a lot of Americans, the two words, we just played a little clip here a little bit ago for Mikey Cheryl.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that Spanberger here of Virginia has said this.
[SPEAKER_02]: that affordability is one of the big things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you've got man Danny saying it up in New York City.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got David Jolly running on that down in Florida.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got some of our friends in Chicago and Minneapolis and California and Portland and mentioning that affordability is one of the key issues, but so is accountability and accountability is all about paying attention to the
[SPEAKER_01]: Without accountability, we're going to experience this over and over and over again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Without accountability, there's no deterrent, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody is deterred from doing it all over again.
[SPEAKER_01]: They will replicate Donald Trump's autocratic blueprint.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we are the American accountability trials.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what you said?
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to come up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, the Dems aren't good at messaging.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's face it right Donald Trump I will say he's he's the master of one thing and that's messaging because he knows three words whether it's build a wall lock her up stop the steel, but you know he can he can get the goalable, you know, thinking hey that that that's great that's important that's about and
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, we need to be better at messaging, you know, and, and if it's the AAT, I don't know, maybe that's that's good for openers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely just because of the fact of that accountability is one of the things that we keep
[SPEAKER_02]: it's it's something we hear we see it from from the folks who who are here in the bar and who comment through different social media platforms we see it from other news organizations that put stuff out whether it's MSNBC MS now whatever CNN whether it's ABCNBC whoever we're seeing that that those are the two words that seem to keep coming up over and over again affordability accountability people just want to be able to afford to live
[SPEAKER_02]: and people want to make sure that that everybody is following the rule of law, it's not just being applied to some folks and other folks can just go ahead and do whatever the hell they want, and it's a huge, huge deal, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that's part of the reason why accountability came to me is off the top of my head there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Glenn, can we get you to stick around for a whole other round?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's all kinds of other things we know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yes, you are our member, one of our members of the legal bar at the politics bar,
[SPEAKER_01]: Other things absolutely can you pour me a drink?
[SPEAKER_02]: I always get thirsty when I see a joke He's back dry absolutely look look we got whatever you want We will get a drink in fact.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a very good drink of the day coming up as well It's a little Egyptian tinge.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, well, well tell you about it here in the break line If you guys don't know you can already subscribe to the drink of the day at the politics bar dot com one
[SPEAKER_02]: What will do?
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna come back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is Tuesday night, here at the politics bar, we have a member of our own legal bar with us, Mr. Glenn Kirchner hanging out with Showty Hamilton and the Sean Smith Pierce.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Mr. Kersner.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you like Margaritas and PBRs and you know, we we gave you the heads up on the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, now now you are in the in club as well, which you haven't Egyptian beard, by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not that I recall.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds like I'm in a confirmation here now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Senator, not that I remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I told the, I don't think I told the prosecutors that we would have to tell the court's F. Those court orders were not that I recall.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, depending on the, it's the same way anywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever, whatever beer it is from around the world or whatever drink it is from around the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's quality, it's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, there are some good Egyptian beers, but I
[SPEAKER_02]: I, my college roommate used to work at MGM liquor warehouse in Minneapolis during the summer times and of course he would always come back and, you know, we're at the bar and he's like, well, you know, somebody orders whatever and we're like, okay, Josh, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so Tuesday night, what else do we have on the docket here, Joe?
[SPEAKER_05]: Jack Smith is itching to talk to people.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where I wanted to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's what we were thinking of.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the whole deal, by the way, for those people who aren't aware of the whole?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I know that not only is Jack Smith willing to go, but I lean can and is getting her butt spanked because she hasn't released up from Jack Smith.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the media is kind of ignoring this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know that you can actually make it easier for folks to understand.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not surprising that Aileen can in Trump appointed federal court judge down in Florida continues to do Donald Trump's bidding and in a very real sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's part of a cover-up of the Jack Smith special counsel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Report, don't take it from me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Take it from the 11-circuit court of appeals.
[SPEAKER_01]: Had just, as you said, smacked her figuratively speaking by saying, essentially,
[SPEAKER_01]: we told you to act on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: The public has a right to see the Jack Smith special council report and you're just sitting on it and they gave her 60 days to did you know what or get off the pot.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Jack's of course, Jack's another day to his report.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then of course there was the change over and so he had to say I'm withdrawing the case where but the report is still there and what the 11th circuit is telling her because she's been sitting on it kind of trying to bury it and what they're telling her is make a ruling and then release the report.
[SPEAKER_02]: Am I correct in saying that?
[SPEAKER_01]: They're saying make a ruling and if her ruling is, okay, I've ruled I'm not going to release it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, then guess what the 11 circuit gets to say, yeah, we're going to overturn you again as we have several times previously.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what is she doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: She's not ruling.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's sitting on it because that's the only way she can effectively continue to hide it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well,
[SPEAKER_01]: the court of appeals just caught on to her game and they're going to make her do something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if she if she ruled and said, here's the report that's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: If she ruled and said, no, there isn't the report that it can be appealed to basically the rest of the circuit court that she's on and you're saying most likely they will say no, no, no, release the port and report anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: So either way, she's kind of screwed, but she can't just sit there and say forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: well it's neither ruled or not ruled it's it's it's uh what is it uh uh shirtingers report kind of like the uh shirtingers shirtingers report kind of like shirtingers cat which is you know you know what it reminds me of when she is just sitting on it and refusing to do anything there's a parallel there remember how Mitch McConnell sat on the nomination of Merrick Garland and nothing for damn near a year right
[SPEAKER_01]: And what drives me to distraction is if I had been president, which would never happen, I would simply have said the Mitch McConnell, and I would have done this.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is why I'd make a lousy president.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would have said, Mitch, the Constitution says the Senate has the prerogative to provide advice and consent on my nominee to the Supreme Court.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm giving you 30 days to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't, I will deem you have waved the Senate's constitutional prerogative to provide advice and consent.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I will tell Merrick Garland to take his rightful place on the Supreme Court.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are we clear you little piece of
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you know what would have happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't I didn't go there.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's you know, I believed it for just for, you know, for people listening.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're the only one.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of two things would have happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mitch McConnell most likely would have said, I already called my bluff.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give him a hearing and an upper down vote or Mitch McConnell could have tried to run to the federal court.
[SPEAKER_01]: and convinced the federal court judge that he had the authority to rewrite the constitution and block all presidential nominees indefinitely and ten federal court judges out of ten would have laughed Mitch McConnell out of court.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why you take the gloves off when the Republicans are not playing by the rules.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't appease them.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you don't try to wait them out until they're better, better answers and over.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mitch McConnell doesn't have any better answers.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: He should get a, I'd say that he should get a dog or a cat.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he has one, but, you know, I mean, it's, at least that would help him maybe be a little bit better.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe he'll, I don't know if turtles get along with cats and dogs.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure he don't need you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I love that, though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, what else are we looking at then?
[SPEAKER_02]: So there is the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jack Smith is threatening to go public.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's threatening.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wants to say what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Could he actually do any damage to Trump if he goes, if he is testifying in court, or not in court in Congress, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so two things that play one he wants to testify publicly so the Republicans can't come out from behind closed doors if he's not permitted to testify publicly and lie about what he said behind closed doors, but he doesn't get to call the shots Congress gets to call the shots regarding the form is a testimony takes, but there's nothing preventing him.
[SPEAKER_01]: from sitting down and very publicly saying this is what I would testify to publicly if I were permitted and then he gets to craft the message.
[SPEAKER_01]: So and I'm quite sure he won't disclose anything that he's not permitted to disclose because of our grand jury secrecy rule.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, is there a legal way you could do that, Glenn?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he could he could get in front of some of the lawyers or a judge or something and be like,
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to be a judge.
[SPEAKER_01]: He can sit down with a reporter, he can sit down with, you know, anybody who in the Rachel Maddo or, you know, and just tell what he knows.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He can come.
[SPEAKER_01]: He come to my little studio here in Leesburg, Virginia.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm leaving him a pre-PBR.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: See, that's the kind of thing I think that people really want to know is that there are solutions out there if people have the courage.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is ways to go about doing this.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are ways for us to fight back so long as people have the courage to stand up and do what needs to be done.
[SPEAKER_01]: courage is contagious and we need more of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need more of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a hippie.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's hippie.
[SPEAKER_02]: So okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to ask this question because I have a story.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a long story.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll probably tell the next hour.
[SPEAKER_02]: But do you have any Dick Cheney stories that you
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if either of you to do I have I don't I never met him so I do not but you know at least he won't be in a position to shoot anybody else in the face now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did have somebody who actually said to us what did I see here I got this they were hollerin from the blue sky corner of the bar Joel who said here was his post you said former VP Cheney will be honored with a 21 gun salute accidentally aimed directly 21 of his friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: So here's what I will here's what you say he raised his daughter right and not on the ideological front I have nothing but disagreements with Liz Cheney right, but you know anybody who is willing to say
[SPEAKER_01]: that the survival of American democracy is way more important than me winning reelection and I will fight and I will go down swinging for democracy.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's somebody I would get in a foxhole with and fight the enemy, the enemy being, you know, the aspiring dictator in the oval office.
[SPEAKER_01]: So boy, he did something right there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and it has Donald even said anything yet today.
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen anything if you either view.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have not any well.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm Kamala Harris released a statement earlier that it was very nice.
[SPEAKER_05]: Others are doing that because it's the right thing to do.
[SPEAKER_05]: But obviously George W. Bush did for obvious reasons.
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, it's interesting.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's not interesting.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's completely.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting to me that there are, there are still people.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Kamala Harris being one who did the thing that we expect our leaders to do our elected leaders to do our former elected leaders to do there is a certain
[SPEAKER_02]: I know there are some liberals, look, my family has a thing that goes back with Dick Cheney, literally about a hundred years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Him and his family.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll have to, I'll tell it later, but I don't, I like you, Glenn, I disagree with virtually everything that he and Liz ideologically stood for, and yet there's a certain kind of person that you disagree with their political positions, and yet they understand that there
[SPEAKER_02]: And then if right, but there are also just even rules and norms, it's important that we have those two, and that things operate in proper method that way, and if you don't have them, then it leads to pretty much anarchy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It leads to whoever has the biggest gun or the biggest pile of money, and that's not laws that doesn't, it doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_02]: And while I disagree vehemently with so many things that the Cheneys believe,
[SPEAKER_02]: I do understand that within his own code and within Liz's own code, they both had a very much thing of saying, this is what they believe about abortion or what they believe about taxes or what they believe about war, but they also believe that it needs to operate within that structure of law.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's one of the key places where when Liz Cheney was backing up, Kamala Harris.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't tell you how many liberals were like, I can't believe they're some of our friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been here in the bar who, you know, we're hollerin' our gambling and I said, I appreciate the fact that they appreciate the rule of law.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he voted for Kamala.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, he endorsed her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Considering his history as a Republican, yeah, that's a huge deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: No ideological position is nearly as important as the viability of American democracy.
[SPEAKER_01]: believe that and they lift it and that and you know what we can argue about policy and ideology all day long but what we shouldn't be arguing about is whether we're going to you know remain a democracy or lapse into a dictatorship as Donald Trump announced he wanted he said I'll be a day one dictator so yeah I respect her and I respect her father for raising her that way
[SPEAKER_05]: That's why Prop 50 is so good in California because at least we're getting to choose what we do with our redistricting.
[SPEAKER_05]: Instead of Texas and these other states that are just letting their legislator do it without going to their voters.
[SPEAKER_05]: They say, you want to do this.
[SPEAKER_05]: People don't want there are people on next door, which is hit of hell.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a Trump appointed Judge Jody just rejected what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Two or three attacks on Prop 50.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the most conservative trouble.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, that's a point of light right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Glenn, we always love having you here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, we'll have to have you back.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to, you know, run up here sometime to you in Leesburg.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just have a thing we are with, you know, anytime.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much as always for coming by and straightening everybody out and reminding folks that justice does matter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He'll send you messages when it's time for those evening discussions and you're going to want to pay attention.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Joey, we, uh, we told Glenn what the drink of the day was.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got him his drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, he obviously loves PBR, which we know, which is good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, tonight's drink of the day is, um, it is not a drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, uh, if, if you are listening to us while you are in line to vote, remember, if you are in line, even if the polls have closed, mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you do, Jodi?
[SPEAKER_02]: Stand line.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get your vote counted.
[SPEAKER_02]: See?
[SPEAKER_02]: Judges Wright, stay at the line.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do the right thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Be smart.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: So drink the day is not a PBR.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it is not.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what would have been too simple?
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, Glenn would have liked it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Grab bottle or can open drink.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, make sure it's chilled first.
[SPEAKER_05]: Chilled is better.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, always chill it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're not in Germany or England.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's kind of a... No, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or Ireland too.
[SPEAKER_05]: They have warm beer as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at some beer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure is probably better warm, but I've just prefer a cold.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's me.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how I am.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that's how you are, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, all right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, today's drink the day is, it's a king cold cocktail.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it was inspired by the discovery of King Tut's tomb on the state November 4th, 1922.
[SPEAKER_05]: And by the official opening of the new Grand Egyptian museum, which happened this past weekend, it is awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you you punched up the history and then I punched it up a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a picture.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you take a look of the of that and if you actually go down and you scroll down of the drink of the day and you look at that, it's really cool in the other direction.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if you walked around kind of like a half circle and looked at that obelisk from the other direction, you know, it's in the background of that museum?
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: The pyramids.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: The pyramids of Gizy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's right there in Gizy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: The largest single museum dedicated to a single society in human history.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm kind of a little bit of an Egypt goof maybe because it's seeking tough when he when he toured in the 70s and then again when they just fought with him again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you mean the actual the art stuff?
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought you meant the band.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, no, I did not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not see the band.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now when when when when when they brought all the stuff out in the 70s to go on the road some of it Yeah, I saw that they didn't I didn't ever I never saw that I've seen it twice I went when they did it recently.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's what six or seven years ago I Lonnie never seen the stuff yeah, and it wasn't the same exact stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean we didn't get the big
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they have, they have, and one of the things that I looked at when I saw the, the the new Grand Egyptian Museum is opening, there are 53,000 objects of King Tutts.
[SPEAKER_02]: They used to be scattered among different places.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the first time they were all together back together.
[SPEAKER_02]: And even even when he was dead, they had, they found piles of objects in other places that weren't necessarily right near his barrel area.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is literally the first time in like 3,000 years where all his stuff is in the same place.
[SPEAKER_05]: Amazing.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's it's a I saw it as a kid.
[SPEAKER_05]: We were on a field trip school and the big sarcophagus was there too when not it wasn't this last time they had smaller kind of versions of it but yeah I mean it was quite I think I might even still have the books that I got for cool because I'm a hoarder and Lonnie has noticed that and I'm
[SPEAKER_05]: And then when we saw him a few years back when they were bringing more different stuff around.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm Alani and his mom and stepdad.
[SPEAKER_05]: We all went to go see it and it was it was really it's just it's it's amazing that his tomb was never ransacked like others.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the whole deal with his team.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we've got a little bit of the history there in the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, King Tut, he started to be king when he was nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: They hadn't fully built his burial pyramid.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when he died 10 years later at 19, there are various
[SPEAKER_02]: just thoughts about how he died, but basically probably it was because of mountaineetrician and infection and whatever kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, some people thought he was poisoned.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are arguments for that too.
[SPEAKER_02]: But his burial tomb wasn't done.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they stuck him in a somewhat unfinished version and then they of course kind of quickly finished it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it wasn't a big huge thing and actually the entrance to that was next to another tomb that 150 years later, they were also building and they were like, ah, we got to build the workers hats and shove some garbage over here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they basically shoved garbage over the entrance to the tomb and then of course he disappeared.
[SPEAKER_02]: So
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's what kept it safe, because I mean, people would go in and steal from these dead folks constantly for years.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a, there's a whole bunch of fun stuff there.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some stuff too with the name.
[SPEAKER_02]: For example, I loved this, this kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you like the mommy movies, you guys will recognize some of this stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: So King taught, Tutan Kamoon, Tutank Amoon, was actually originally named Tutank Atten, which is living image of Atten.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oton was the name of the Sun God, his father, Oton ordered his people to worship, but then his dad died when he was like nine, and basically the assistance around Tutankhamon decided to change his name back because when his dad was king, his dad said, before that thinking worship like two thousand different gods and his dad said, no, no, no, only worship, Oton.
[SPEAKER_02]: And after that, yeah, his advisors went, man, you guys can worship whatever, but Amune was the big God, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of it being a moon or two-tonke, it was too, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're version of Zeus.
[SPEAKER_02]: The funny thing is, and I texted this to you the other day, because it's so...
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the when and hollywood.
[SPEAKER_02]: They actually stick some great stuff from reality in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you're a fan of the mommy movies with Brendan Fraser and Rachel Weiss, so.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they're making a fourth.
[SPEAKER_02]: cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've got that through variety just in my email is when an hour is so ready.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to come together.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: You remember that they were one of the the gods I think of that movie is um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um um, um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, actually, it was a priest for Amun Ra, real god from from back then.
[SPEAKER_02]: The girlfriend's name and the mummy movie was Anaksun Amun, kind of like a two-tunk Amun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Literally, same thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of those people like, oh my god, they stick these little Easter eggs in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so cool when people know the history and then they stick Easter eggs in and you're like, damn, that's kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: And if you like Steve Martin, he had a fun song at the time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I love that song as a kid.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what else I think you're going to love though.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is in the King Cole, not Todd?
[SPEAKER_02]: The King Cole got to take the drink of the day, Jodie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, you're going to need a mixing glass.
[SPEAKER_05]: Some ice, a pre-chilled coupe glass.
[SPEAKER_05]: One in two thirds ounces of straight, right whiskey.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're talking 50% out, 100 proof jits.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is a strong, strong, strong drink.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is if you stay home, don't get in a car, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So don't get your strong drink, right.
[SPEAKER_05]: A quarter ounce of friday, bronca lacure.
[SPEAKER_07]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there's a link to that type of lacure in case you're concerned about.
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't know what it is.
[SPEAKER_05]: Click on that and you'll find it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: A third ounce of Monon pure cane syrup, basically.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a simple syrup, simple syrup.
[SPEAKER_05]: And a third ounce of chilled water, which we haven't done before.
[SPEAKER_05]: OK. An orange and pineapple slices for garnish.
[SPEAKER_05]: There are two ways.
[SPEAKER_05]: The reason the chilled waters in there is to kind of
[SPEAKER_05]: wash it down a little bit because I mean, it's a lot of a hike.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a dry high up at the whole, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, um, the reason they have chilled water, there was another way to do this that I didn't put in here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: They said either wet ice or chilled water like what is the difference?
[SPEAKER_05]: Ice is, but most people when they have ice in the freezer, it's kind of dry.
[SPEAKER_05]: It sticks to you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So they call that dry, even though it's not dry ice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Technically dry in the market.
[SPEAKER_05]: But you have to kind of let it
[SPEAKER_05]: Melt a little bit to be wet ice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So either use three quarters-ounce chilled water or wet ice.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you pre-chill your coop glass, you prepare your garnish of orange and pineapple slices, and then you stir all the ingredients with the ice, and then find strain it into the chilled glass.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's an easy drink to make, but again, do not get behind the wheel of a car after all of that booze.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's a lot of booze.
[SPEAKER_02]: And even if you have people carrying you in a chariot, do not get in your Egyptian chariot.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he can call a cab, call a neighbor, just do not drive after even one of these because you will be blotted exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you will.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So by the way, I'll read it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Race of glass to Egypt for completing the grand Egyptian museum.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also by the way, a race of glass to King Touch and his administration who had to do a lot of work cleaning up after his father, who was an Eagle Maniac basically screwed up Egypt.
[SPEAKER_05]: I sounds like Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 3,000 years and some people are still making the same mistakes, just proving that sometimes some people never learn.
[SPEAKER_05]: Did you hear Stephanie talking today about Don Jr. talking about his dad's balls?
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you kidding me?
[SPEAKER_02]: I heard a little bit of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what was she saying again?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I know you were at, you were at, it's definitely earlier today and Bob's.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was apparently Don Jr. posted something about the ballroom is for his dad's.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's, if that's the case, his ballroom could be like a small restroom.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, it looks like a tiny, let me kind of like Tiny Johnson.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, small things seem to be their thing on that side of the people's life.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does, doesn't it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, they are small people and we're not talking about height.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, little people are fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're small people, and that's a completely different thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, by the way, if you missed anything that we did with the drink of the day, you know what you can do, you can subscribe at the politicsbar.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, news of the day, we can jump down quick to the entertainment section there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jonathan Bailey of Wicked and Bridgetton, it was named People's largest 2025 Sexy's Man alive.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's definitely pretty there's no quote and there's no question.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's the first out gay guy to be the sexiest man alive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really use the first out gay guy to do that, but that's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think I mean, I'm trying to think through, you know, I might be his first very cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got the story you can check that.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, if you are still kind of you're flipping between us and maybe some of the coverage of the elections.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you may have seen this tonight on MSNBC.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are doing their, they're finally pushing out their ad campaign to promote the name change to MS now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I still don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, it's M snow.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which anyway.
[SPEAKER_05]: Who thought of that?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: That name is a-
[SPEAKER_05]: They could have done something else.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know they're not going to be with NBC anymore, but come on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we'll have to talk about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, it is a Tuesday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is an election night.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we will talk a little bit of elections.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got more news on tap as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, if you missed any of the early part of the show, you know what to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Subscribe to the podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, uh, get your drink freshened up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do what you got to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you got it, you don't want to stay on the hall, left, right, center, whatever, look.
[SPEAKER_02]: We end a place, you ain't two, please.
[SPEAKER_02]: Coming back Tuesday night at the politics bar with Jody Hamilton and me, shots of it fierce, and of course you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hang on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jody, Paul and Seattle, dropped his voicemail.
[SPEAKER_02]: He said that if Democrats do not take control of at least the house by this time next year, he believes the election will have been stolen.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like the Donald Trump will tear down the rest of the White House.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he says that's not hyperably.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he, I don't know it will tear down the White House.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I do think he might tear down the West wing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think I am hopeful.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, there are some areas depending on which affiliate you were listening to us on or if you're one of those magical future people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the polls are already closed.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but look, if the poll is not closed in the area where you are and you are in line to vote, stay exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: let them steal your vote.
[SPEAKER_05]: And if you're in California, New Jersey, and those poll watchers are there from Donald's DOJ, don't let them intimidate you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the things that we put up as a resource for you guys, right there in the news on tap, right at the top, is voting info, including a voter info hotline.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you see somebody being intimidated in ways that they are not supposed to be, you call the hotline.
[SPEAKER_02]: They will tell you what to do and who to contact or they will connect you with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just click through and get the details there.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can actually, if you're on your phone, you can click through and then it'll auto dial.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's, it's helpful.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to be prepared on these kind of things for those of you more than likely anybody listening in Virginia.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's done.
[SPEAKER_02]: Post closed seven.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's, that's done.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pulse closed Jersey and Pennsylvania at eight so like I said depending on when you're listening to us be where Pulse closed in the twin cities.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe at eight o'clock Pulse closed in California at APM local time Pulse closed in New York at nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: So wherever you happen to be
[SPEAKER_02]: make sure that you've got the information, make sure that you are, that you voted.
[SPEAKER_02]: That you're always counts, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's, you know.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, if they didn't, if they didn't think your vote was important, they wouldn't keep trying to stop you from voting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: They wouldn't work so hard, because obviously, they are working really hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think Mandani is gonna completely, oh my God, he went on the morning, Joe.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was on our email world last night too.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he went on the morning, Joe, and he actually did really well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't, you know, on his flip and through the stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: this morning and and I was like, okay, you know, hit morning, Joe, whatever, listen for a couple seconds and it's me, Ken, she's saying, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and as we're on, man, Danny will be here later.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even Joe Scarborough knows how to say his name.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Cuomo, pretending not to say he'd know how to say damn Danny's name.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not that hard.
[SPEAKER_05]: Once I heard it, I knew it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not gone.
[SPEAKER_05]: Actually, you can read it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not that difficult to read.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like the judge.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: The judge.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the judge is, once you know how to say it, it's done.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are lots of names that people are like in Cat Amigazella, not hard to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Once you know how to say it, even not hard to spell.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you know how to spell it, which I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, Cat is spelled with the K. Yes, it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the whole deal is, you know, everybody should be out getting there, their voice out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so glad that affordability has become such a huge thing out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so thrown.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so glad when we talked to Glenn here a little while ago that he's so big on accountability, too.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's important, Eric Swallwell is basically set it if we get the house back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I freaking love.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are things that are really like, sometimes he comes off as a little bit to eager, but I do like Eric Swallwell in general.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is he's really good at trolling?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's really good at that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a tough video, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the governor's a team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Although I think Governor News
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I did you hear that stupid interview with him with what's her face on me at the press, asking him, are you being just like him?
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, no, what a dumb question first off.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was a dumb question.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: But you're not understand what he's doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you that deaf?
[SPEAKER_02]: she's trying to do what so many of them try to do that hold double standard that that both sides is a that drives me and you and a lot of the people here in the bar completely backcrap were like stop it you know if if on one side uh... you have you know bob smith generally a good guy except he kicked a dog when he was seven
[SPEAKER_02]: bastard or damn that's that's the the mainstream media thing because on the other side you say on the other side you have a till of the hunt he killed 14,000 people and women and children and dogs and cats and and they're like well if we just actually say the facts people are going to be like this is this guy is awful and this guy is not so bad
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yes, that's that's exactly what you need to do if you're a member of the legitimate media and you want to be legitimate and have ethics and integrity I'm sorry until the hunt isn't till the hunt I suppose that can bring us to the whole dick chainy thing That's one way to do that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Nice segue there, buddy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you Thank you Segways our ass
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he did have a quiet split with W, which most of the mainstream media tries to bury in 2005, there are a few books that talk about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can hear a few people occasionally, long and short, Cheney really was kind of the shadow president for the first time, yes, and then George got mad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the story behind that that I know of.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, is that basically they had kind of a a, I won't say literal throwdown, but an actual fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: That that basically, um, W found out that Cheney had done a few other things that behind his back that he hadn't wanted to do, things that only the president should be able to do, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And instead of doing what he done for the previous five years, he finally called him out on it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And Dick was intimidated by him for a few years.
[SPEAKER_05]: And once he got reelected, once he was re-sworn in.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: He was like, effort.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so president.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's basically what he said.
[SPEAKER_02]: He basically did that whole performative thing of I.M.
[SPEAKER_02]: The president, only for real, to Dick Cheney.
[SPEAKER_02]: And after that, they didn't exactly have the same kind of relationship after that, because Cheney was like, well, crap.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't pump it him around anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, that's that's not great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as as we discussed with Glenn Kirchner earlier, look, there's a lot of things that I like about Dick Cheney.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this particular story goes back almost 100 years.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember if I've told it here at the bar or not.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know you told it to me, but I don't know if we did it on air.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember if we did.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was probably about six months ago or so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was a while back.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you if you happen to know Lincoln Nebraska with you did do that's where he was born well Yeah, and there is a road on the south side of Lincoln Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's called old Cheney road Yeah, they're not to Cheney correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cheney is the correct pronunciation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Cheney not Cheney although There are a lot of people say it's old Cheney road.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's old Cheney road because it's spelled just like his last name C-H-E-N-E-Y-Cheney
[SPEAKER_02]: And the reason is, is that there is a small town, an unincorporated town, it sits about 90 first and highway to in South Lincoln.
[SPEAKER_02]: It literally is almost across the street from where I used to work at the Walmart out there, not kidding.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that small, unincorporated town is known as Cheney Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the road going to Cheney was Old Cheney Road.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's his family.
[SPEAKER_02]: His dad used to be something that they called, um,
[SPEAKER_02]: God, what was it?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to murder county extension agent.
[SPEAKER_02]: What does that mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: So county extension agent is something that came up from the Great Depression.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it goes through USDA.
[SPEAKER_02]: We still have them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And basically, a county extension agent is somebody who, any farmer, hell, anybody, if you got a big ass garden in your backyard, which is what my granddad had.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can call the county extension agent and say, hey, I need you to come out and take a look at the plants.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have this fungus, or there's this bug, or I'd like some advice on this particular thing, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a lot of resources.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the federal government of the USDA, but one of the reasons that the federal government
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, so Dickie senior, Dick Cheney senior, was the county extension agent for landcaster county.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my dad in North Lincoln lived there with his parents over near Nebraska, West Lynn.
[SPEAKER_02]: And nice, you know, small private college.
[SPEAKER_02]: My granddad had this big ass yard.
[SPEAKER_02]: They basically had a double lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: They had a small house in the front lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then there was this weird plot of land in the back and it was kind of a double lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he had this massive ass garden back there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he had some issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: He calls the county extension agent, which is Dick Cheney, senior, Dickie Cheney, Dickie senior comes over and brings Dickie Junior along.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dickie Junior is all of, I don't know, what three something like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's really, he's got babies.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's really young.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my aunt Marilyn, my dad, just like in my family, there was a large stretch of years between Oldest and Youngest.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this was his oldest sister.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she was their shoes teenager.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Dick Senior and my granddad going back and they're looking whatever and and they leave Dickie Junior in house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, my grandparents didn't have a whole lot of money.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, they just got in a brand new couch.
[SPEAKER_02]: My grandmother was so happy about this particular couch, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my auntie comes around a corner.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there she says little Dickie, little Dickie Jr. Dick Cheney as we know him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Diggin' for all the gold that he can find in his nose, stand and over near this brand new couch.
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, my auntie is like, yes, hello kitty girl.
[SPEAKER_05]: baby girl.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my.
[SPEAKER_02]: It says to Dick Cheney Jr. Says, um, you know, kind of get your anchor chair.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that like that?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he, she, she always said this was she was alive.
[SPEAKER_02]: She said the look that he gave her is the same exact look that she saw a lot of times with the Iraq war stuff where he would look into a camera and he would basically go F U just the facial look was an F U and he told her nope and he take that
[SPEAKER_02]: how he was raised.
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, so he needless to say my grandma put plastic on all the furniture in the living room, my whole life.
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew it because my dad said that after that, that's what she did.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was, you know, because she was just any who.
[SPEAKER_02]: About three years later, I guess Dick Cheney and his family moved away, you know, Ming, and, well, you know, the rest of the story.
[SPEAKER_02]: The rest is history.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: But,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my family has never exactly had that the greatest relationship with the Chinese after that because I guess I guess they they caught a lot of hell.
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, Dickie Senior was like, you know, my son wouldn't do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Dickie Junior was, you know, had that FU look on his face and any who.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, but I had had privilege and he took it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jody is right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the idea, even that, even the fact that my family goes back that long, the fact is Dick Cheney believed in the rule of law.
[SPEAKER_02]: He did, I'll give him that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he understood, if you're playing a game and there are no rules, if it's all Calvin Ball, the rules aren't just there to him you in.
[SPEAKER_02]: The rules are there to protect you as well, to say that there are certain things
[SPEAKER_02]: There are ways, of course, to be the opposition.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we all should learn more about how to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, rules are there for a reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: And just saying, if you, I don't care about the rules, you throw the rules out.
[SPEAKER_02]: It means that it is, as some of our friends at WCPT land know, it's Chicago rules, which is basically no rules.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So for all the horrible things that he did and the fact that I am, you know, I don't wish any more pay on his family who obviously loved him and whatever, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the fact of the matter is I think that it is important that we acknowledge the humanity.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to like the things he did and I don't.
[SPEAKER_05]: Same.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you also have to understand that even with people you despise, there are certain things sometimes that you can find that are worthwhile, that are lessons that you can learn to be a better person, even if the lesson is only, don't do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he, I mean, he, I mean, he finally was nice to gay people because of his daughter, Mary.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, I mean, that took a minute.
[SPEAKER_05]: But at least he finally came around on that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you know, it shouldn't have taken his daughter, but whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: so that there are things we can learn even from that so just you know reminder also somebody actually that is is it's it's more sad to see that she passed Diane lad three time Oscar nominated actress also Laura Dern's mother
[SPEAKER_05]: I met her when we were graduating because Laura was in my class at Buckley, and she was working the whole time.
[SPEAKER_05]: She was doing mask.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I met Laura briefly because she was working.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but um, when we were graduating, I was having a graduation party and I invited the entire class.
[SPEAKER_05]: Small children make law or couldn't make it because work.
[SPEAKER_05]: But Ms. Lad came up to me because you're jouty and I said, yes, because that was so nice of you to invite my daughter to your party.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I said, well, that's, but I've been taught and she does what she did.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry Laura could make it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I said that's okay, and I have a picture with me in her.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's really cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: She was really really really kind of me.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm sad for Laura.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sad for Laura too.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a loss, but I'm glad that we had her as long as we did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great work to have an actor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: She really was.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, we got last call.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Tuesday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is election night.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know some of you are kind of getting jones up about the results.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll do we can't get some information hang on one more round on a Tuesday night here at the politics bar hang on.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Last call here at the politics bar on a Tuesday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Although I can guarantee there are a whole bunch of you We're gonna leave this bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna go to another bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna watch election results and then you're gonna come back tomorrow Really asked tired, but that's
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope you won't take that long for results to come through tonight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jodi election night obviously depending on where you're at when you're listening you guys may not know Some of the results are in some of the ex-apples are in things are looking really good for Democrats Regardless of where you're at in the country obviously if you happen to be in the Twin Cities There is that mayoral race and the the the biggest candidates all happen to be Democrats So some Democrats gonna win that one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know who it is, but I believe same thing down on a ATL in Atlanta So I
[SPEAKER_02]: look we are very glad if you guys it and if you are in the california corner of the bar remember uh... in california the polls do not close until what is it nine p.m. eight p.m. eight p.m. eight p.m. polls in california close at eight o'clock tonight so uh... look it's it's it's very simple wherever you happen to be if you're if you're voting in your inline if you're inline by the time of the poll close
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stay in line.
[SPEAKER_05]: Stay in line kids do not let your vote get thrown away or taken from and I know in the last in California.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you get it.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you're given a provisional ballot.
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_05]: Still use it.
[SPEAKER_05]: But then you have to prove that you were the right voter.
[SPEAKER_05]: You do have to go down a Norwalk and prove.
[SPEAKER_05]: to get counted.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's in California.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know other states.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you're given a provisional ballot, definitely use it and then find out the rules to make sure that that vote does get counted.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Make sure that it gets counted a lot of times you can log on to your local county officials website or the state side if it breaks it down that way and find out if your vote has counted.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's important.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mine has counted ballot tracks as how I might get.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mine has counted here in Virginia which is good.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, in New York City, man, did you see the early vote tolls there, Joe?
[SPEAKER_02]: Huge.
[SPEAKER_02]: All five burrows.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is almost presidential level.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's off the charts.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot, a lot, a lot of young people.
[SPEAKER_02]: As Democrats, we have been waiting for years for the young people to show they asses up.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm glad they are.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said this before, I'll say it again, as my mother said, and yes, these are literally, so when I was, this was before I was, you know, this is when I was a kid and, and she probably shouldn't have been swearing with this one of things that she would say.
[SPEAKER_02]: She said those who do not vote cannot bitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been here in that my whole life, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, it's, we had good parents.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, we had good parents.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of like, kind of like a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,
[SPEAKER_02]: by the way, so I'm kind of, it's one of those kind of things where I'm frustrated about one of the media things and I don't know how much I should chat about it or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: You saw that in the media section there in the fifth round of the news on tap, Conday Nast basically gutted teen
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, this makes out that may sound kind of weird to some of you recently, wait a minute, you're like a 50-some-year-old guy and you're saying they got a teen vote.
[SPEAKER_02]: Teen vote is a really good magazine.
[SPEAKER_02]: The last 10 years, especially, they have been really, really, their political coverage has been really, really short.
[SPEAKER_02]: But their editor-in-chief, Versa Sharma, has exited.
[SPEAKER_02]: They fired their entire political staff.
[SPEAKER_02]: The union has filed actions against the parent company County NASS because of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of those kind of things where Connie Nast obviously has said, we don't want to upset anyone.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know who they don't want to upset.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but you know what, F that upset.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not your job, too.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, is your job to ruffle feathers?
[SPEAKER_05]: Is your job to do these things?
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Lara Lumer is now going to be... She's credentialed to be a press person at the Pentagon?
[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't even get that one into the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Lara Lumer, the right wing nut job is now credentialed to cover the Pentagon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which, of course, I'll admit it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, it's Pete Kegbreth.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's doing whatever ridiculous dumbass things he wants to do there.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that said, Laura Louver shouldn't have credentials to cover her local school board race, because she would lie or ask off about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I just, yeah, I'm... She looks like that character from Saw.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[SPEAKER_02]: like any of us in better entertainment news john steward has signed a contract to stay on as host of daily show through December twenty twenty six.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had my issues with steward before I don't like the fact that he you know bags on Joe Biden but and generally bags of a democratic party but you know that's look I am not a democratic party chill but I do understand that we are for the most part in a two car race.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you don't do what some people do in that kind of situation, which is they, you know, I don't like this damn car.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not doing the thing I want.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm going to get out and Right, I went to especially at the beginning of Donald's reign.
[SPEAKER_05]: right exactly at the end of Joe Biden's presidency uh it was it was like seriously John you do realize that we are in an existential democratic crisis right now so some people do not seem to quite understand and they don't vote strategically.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about this yesterday I think that's the whole thing of people go well I want I want two pickles not three and I don't want onions on this half of the burger and this
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: You get somewhat of a say.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like, some parents do this with their kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're little kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did this when I was helping raise my brothers who are eight and ten years younger.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do this with my dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you do this with your cats, but I do this with my dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the animal psychologists say they have the intelligence of dogs and cats have the intelligence of a three to five year old child.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or they can, yes, you can have a dumb dog if you want, but my dog is not dumb, anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can give them choices, simplified choices.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do we go short way or long way?
[SPEAKER_02]: and some days he picks the short way.
[SPEAKER_02]: And some days he picks the long way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oftentimes it depends on the weather in his mood.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you give them choices.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't say, well, we can, you know, when are way, wherever the hell you want.
[SPEAKER_02]: You say you can go do this or this.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's your choices for voting.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can choose to vote with the same Democrat who won't do everything you want, but won't, you know, for example, randomly kill people on boats in the Caribbean in your name or, you know, start fellow Americans.
[SPEAKER_02]: Democrats will you know make sure that the Americans get fed and not randomly kill people.
[SPEAKER_02]: So right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or you can go with the Republican over here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who will do whatever stupid ass thing the Donald Trump says.
[SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if Donald Trump says, I want everybody who's a Republican in Congress to stand on their head and gurgle peanut butter and they'll go.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are, yeah, people go, well, that sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want a third choice.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, why don't we all?
[SPEAKER_05]: But that's not the system we're in, unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_02]: Democracy is not Burger King.
[SPEAKER_02]: Deal with it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we're not commentary in this country.
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't have ranked choice voting everywhere.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you don't get the same choices unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_05]: That maybe we would under a different way to do this country.
[SPEAKER_05]: But we wanted to like to do it like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like they have a been Minneapolis for mayor, like they have in New York City for mayor that they have in other places that that that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alaska.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but that's only one part of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked about this before, guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ranked choice voting, multi-member districts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, campaign public campaign finance where everybody gets the same at that point it literally would be more like NASCAR because in NASCAR everybody has to have a vehicle that meets very close to the same specifics.
[SPEAKER_02]: and then it's how good is the driver.
[SPEAKER_02]: In this case, it would be, here's an exact same pot of money for candidates ABCD and E. Who can use it the smartest?
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually think would be a really good test because you want to see how they spend their money to get the factiveness.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we don't have those systems, like you said, Joe, you're right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, then they can't be bought either, because it's public.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, there are a lot of ways that we can do things, but in order to do any of these things, much as I dislike some of the things that James Carvell has said over the years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Our friend Rebecca, by the way, used to work with James Carvell, and she told me some good things about him, but the one thing that I've always found that James Carvell is right about is, in order to govern you have to win.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you can't, if you don't win, it's like, it's like, I would really like to win the
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't buy ticket, if you don't get in the game, you ain't got a score on either side.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're sitting there in the cheap seats, go, Hey, you suck.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can get, you can stay in the cheap seats and say that all you want, or you can get your ass out in the field and be a player and make difference.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, that's your vote.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what your vote is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your vote is making a difference, getting on the field.
[SPEAKER_02]: Being a participant in the event instead of just a spectator.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So,
[SPEAKER_02]: And actually he's not Burger King, but you can still, you know, make something worthwhile with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: We will obviously have a lot more of the results tomorrow, which.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's late tonight.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, no more.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't think it's because I mean, these folks are going to go to another bar and hang out later.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, we will we'll have more of that when they come back tomorrow night here at the bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, I'm speaking of money and corruption in the corruption of Trump land section of the news on tap corporate donors to Trump's White House ballroom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Received about $279 billion in government contracts the last five years.
[SPEAKER_05]: and some were under investigation now that's going to who go away.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you had it that I'm glad you I'm glad you got you found that story because that's a really good story that's in the news on tap and it's it's one that people definitely should read uh... another story trump has asked the watchdog of the u.s housing regulator
[SPEAKER_02]: involved in mortgage probes remember the uh... uh... the thing against uh... new york a g and that remember he he got the information from poultry is housing guy right conveniently the watch dog over poultry is now the guy that trump just fired of course how convenient uh... her case is going to get tossed oh i'm sure it is i'm i'm sure that that she and can be i'm sure both their cases are going to get tossed more than all kinds of little different because it seems more
[SPEAKER_05]: True.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's because of the way that they went about its chances are pretty good that his case is going to get tossed to because as we said earlier tonight, when we were talking with Glenn Kirchner, the rule of law matters.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I hope that when Komi and James at least, there is a dismissed with prejudice, so they cannot be re filed.
[SPEAKER_02]: kick it in screaming and wind and crying all the way tomorrow by the way a Supreme Court set to confront Trump's abusive tariffs with that case that one is in the war on court section.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, the Trump's main opponent in that case actually happens to be a bunch of conservatives.
[SPEAKER_02]: business people.
[SPEAKER_05]: Of course it is.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's the, yeah, because they don't like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, this is stupid.
[SPEAKER_02]: This sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we would really like to have standard rules that aren't going to screw everything up.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got a little piece in there called the five things to watch as the Supreme Court considers Trump's tariffs.
[SPEAKER_02]: We will have that for you guys tomorrow as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, if you missed us earlier talking to Glenn, talk a little bit about the Eileen Cannon thing, yeah, that is definitely it's there in the news
[SPEAKER_02]: as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Jody tomorrow is going to be Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously we'll recap the elections.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll recap what went on at the Supreme Court tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who do we happen to have coming up back to the bar tomorrow?
[SPEAKER_02]: Guess why?
[SPEAKER_02]: The Bob SESCA.
[SPEAKER_02]: We love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bob will be in it Thursday.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be doing a thing with your mom, which, you know, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: We love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can talk about it on Friday.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: See, you'll recap us then on Friday.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jared will be in Thursday.
[SPEAKER_02]: One Escalante, fantastic Democratic strategist.
[SPEAKER_02]: He will be here, Carolyn Fiddler also from the Democratic Governor's Association will be here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, we'll still recap a little bit of the elections.
[SPEAKER_02]: And turn in Anita on Friday.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then next week, do we have her?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it official, can we say?
[SPEAKER_05]: And I have it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not official, but we're trying to get to different jurors on Monday.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then I'm working on somebody for Tuesday.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll, uh, we'll get away.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you guys miss a single day, the best thing to do is subscribe to the podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get yourself some rest, I know it's going to be hard, you're going to have to want to know everybody who wins, we won't know everything till tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: So get some sleep, come on back, visit us tomorrow night here at the politics one.