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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey friends, welcome to the Christian parenting podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host, Steph Therling, and I am so glad that you are here with me today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am joined by Pastor and author, Tara Bethleach, and we are talking about warnings with God and how to make them life-giving in every season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're not a morning person, or if you're in the toddler trenches and wake up to absolute chaos, this conversation is for you, I promise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tara Beth shares how God met her in a really hard season and led her into a simple, realistic rhythm that she calls great mornings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a gratitude, reflection, exalt, ask, and trust.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to hear practical ideas for parents of little's, how to include your spouse or teens, and why even five focused minutes can change the tone of your home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But before we dive in, make sure you follow the show wherever you listen and leave a quick review, your reviews really help more parents find biblical encouragement right when they need it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, enjoy this conversation!

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Tara Beth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Christian parenting podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, thanks, Steph.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So happy to be here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's great to have you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you just start by introducing yourselves?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So tell us kind of what you do, tell us about your family, all the things that are important to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you bet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so I am a mom of two boys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a 13 year old and 15 year old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My 15 year old I look at him and I think, how did I give birth to that man child?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has a size 13 shoe, six foot one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has a nose tackle and football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just hard to comprehend how big he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I have a 13 year old curious little engineer want to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been married to my husband for 20 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We live in Chicago land where I also have the joy of serving as a pastor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My oldest is a 13 year old boy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just look at him and I'm like, years so huge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I go to hug him, I'm like, wait, when did you

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like legitimately bigger than me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I yes, it doesn't make sense that I am like I have baby fever right now Like in a way that my husband is so quick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm 43.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not having another child and it like Like Lord willing, but like every time I see a baby because my boys are so big Like I just want to hear that all the babies like I want to be all and I just keep saying all the cliché things that moms say Oh, it goes by so fast and I'm like stop saying that because it's so cliché But it was like feel it and I'm living it

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It goes by so fast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, truly, like it was just yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel like that much and tell, well, like a hug will set it off, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, like when you're phone pops up, though, you know, the surprise memory, all the pictures and then there is little you're like, wait, wait, how did that, you know, just two years ago?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How did that happen?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a device in our bathroom that just flips through all these old pictures and I started

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there's been a little there yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, today we are not talking about kids growing up so fast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although they do we are yes going to talk about morning time with God and funnily enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's something that kids parents who have really little kids struggle with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for us, like on this night of your day, it's easier to wake up and spend quite time with that because our kids are

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[SPEAKER_00]: and all the parents of littles are like, can't relate to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like people are either super excited to talk about, you know, quiet time with God or they're kind of like, oh my gosh, I already feel so much guilt over this topic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like lots of emotions surrounding this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get to, because I'm not by nature a morning person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Many night am now, because I have to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm super busy with the kids and a full-time job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like morning time now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I also am guilty of I like my wordle in the morning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Connections like I like to buy my morning games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wordals of fantastic way to start the morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who doesn't love you anymore?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's my brain going a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that fog and like in my list we doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do actually find it to be really helpful in the morning, but Her parents were raising yeah, you know, so I tell myself

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[SPEAKER_00]: for parents or elicina who feel this and they are either like, I'm not a morning person or they just wake up to chaos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Toddlers running around and packing lunches and finding shoes and did everyone do their homework and pack their back hacks like tell us how you kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: became a morning person because you said you're not a morning person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know I'm natural not a morning person, even to this day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean waking up was difficult, you know, had to peel myself out of bed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I mean, I have memories, even as a grown adult, to hitting the snooze button, you know, 20 times in the morning and driving my husband crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: I used to be one of those people who would set my alarm to the very last moment that I absolutely had to and I would just like, but take you as like calculate my time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I only need 10 minutes to shower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need five minutes and then I would be rushing up the door with my tires squealing down the road as I'm hurring off to the office.

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[SPEAKER_01]: becoming a morning person actually came at the most unexpected time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It came in a season of wilderness where I was in a period of pain and waiting I had lost my father.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean to what I think it's a very young age, 66 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My mom was now living with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a caretaker for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had very advanced dementia, also in her early 60s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and we had just moved from beautiful sunny California back to Blustry cold Chicago land.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in between spaces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a pastron California back in Chicago land wondering, okay, God, what are you have me doing here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we moved back because I really felt cold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Both my husband and I to come back to honor my mother and father and to care for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I cared for my dad to lay past and then cared for my mother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was, I was waking up most mornings just totally despondent without just numb feeling purposeless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was polar vortex outside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might as well have been polar vortex in my soul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was walking around just in these like funeral clothes, like just in such a long season of grief.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one morning, I just heard the Lord speak to me so deliberately, not audibly, but just so clear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and the Lord said, tarabeth, it's time to take off those grave clothes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's time to wake up, rise with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wasn't sure what it meant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew that I wanted a awakening within my own soul, but I also took it quite literally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, okay, so the next morning, I set my alarm for 4.30 a.m.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I woke up and I said, okay, now what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now what God?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I started, you know, waking up and eventually it became habit and I looked forward to the mornings, it began with journaling and then reading scripture and

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[SPEAKER_01]: freeing and sometimes listening to books on audio and of course going to a workout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I really needed that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This went on for six months, as I was figuring this out of waking up at that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It confessed you're not waking up at 4.30 a.m. right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am waking up with plenty of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I spend about 45 minutes and quite time right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I have teenagers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This looks very different for parents with littles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the morning hours, and I'm learning how just important is because the morning is when our minds are blank slate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the Bible tells us that his mercies are new every morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we know that to be true because how many times have you gone to bed, stressed about something and you wake up the next morning and you feel refreshed?

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's because there has been a cleansing of the mind and thoughts and the emotions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And oftentimes what we end up doing is we reach for our phones and we let the headlines, our calendars, our email lists, our text messages, our social media to set the agenda for our emotions and our posture for the rest of the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and rising early to begin with God is saying, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to let God sit at the agenda of the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to let God dictate if you will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not dictate but establish, establish my steps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So guide my steps while our minds are still a blank canvas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I know all of for parents, this is this is not easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I had different iterations of morning prayer when my kids were babies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, most parents with littles you're welcome up by the baby monitor and sometimes at four in the morning, sometimes it's at five in the morning, it's different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so this morning, our prayer routine doesn't have to be alone in a prayer closet, but it can be done while you're changing diapers while you're while you're nursing, while you're in the car, there's different aspects of it that can be done just so creatively even with littles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk to the parents of really little's who, I mean, they are being welcome at 5am in men by a toddler and then they were up that midnight into with the baby who's hungry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So 4am is not a realistic wake up time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, north, north, north, north.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, north, north, I recommend it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so there's there's nothing totally prescriptive about morning prayer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the idea is God wants to connect with us in the morning hours and we see a lot of biblical examples of this, but all of it has to be contextualized to every parent based on the season that they're in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's one of the things that I recall about having little is every season felt like it was going to be eternal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like this was going to be always and forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to be sleepless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to be changing diapers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to be nursing in that little stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as we just talked about at the beginning of the podcast, boy, where we were on about that, it goes so fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, when you have littles, like just when you think you have a routine down, it changes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the ability to be nimble is so important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because God is a nimble God, God is a God that that moves and meets us where we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God is the good shepherd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and shepherds us from where we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, for example, if you are walking up at sporadic times with a newborn, every two hours, every three hours, morning prayer can happen a little bit at 3 a.m. when you're nursing, a little bit at 5 a.m. when you're nursing again, a little bit at 7 a.m. You know, and it's just finding moments to connect with God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, even some of it can happen on your way to school while you're dropping your kids off,

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[SPEAKER_01]: playing worship music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What a beautiful thing to be taking your kids to school for you to be connecting with God in worship and then worship leading them and inviting them to connect with God in worship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now our boys are teenagers and so my husband and I currently do our great morning prayer routine together which I know we'll talk about what great morning stands for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's something that we practice together and our teenage boys, depending on when they're getting up, they're pretty independent now, getting ready for school, but they will walk in a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's wonderful because oftentimes we're reading scripture or we're listening to worship music or we're praying out loud together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and what a wonderful thing for my teenage boys to walk in and see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's other times where, you know, my boys will be downstairs eating breakfast and we're just wrapping up and Jeff and I will say, well, let's go down now and pray with him and we'll do the asking portion, the prayers are petitioned with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we always, always every single morning, we pray with our boys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We lay hands on them in fact and before we send them out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it has just worked naturally for us to integrate this morning prayer with them before they

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I have interviewed a lot of people on this podcast and frequently it comes up like, what did your parents do to help you, you know, like develop a faith on your own to have the lasting faith to make a meaningful relationship with Jesus on your own and so many people talk about how their parents woke up early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when they came down for breakfast, I'll sleep

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[SPEAKER_00]: or doing their Bible study or praying together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just think, I think about that a lot because what they see matters, you know, we can talk all day long, but what they see matters so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been inviting them into that, even further, you know, taking it one more step.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, it's just really powerful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't have to be super fancy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think sometimes there are a lot of pressure on ourselves to have everything very like beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you have to have a chair with the basket and a can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just not realistic for so many people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God doesn't care about what your surroundings look like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If your kitchen is clean or not, I mean, isn't our God, the God who stepped into the mess of the world, God can step into the mess of our lives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in your journal, and you like a candle, and everything is very like Pinterest perfect, because that's the way you thrive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is so great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want people who can go to bed with my kitchen messy, like people are like, I have to go to bed with my kitchen clean, and I'm like, it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not a beautiful picture perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, kind of like a type of gal Yeah, yeah, and that doesn't make any less of a Christian right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I my journal doesn't have to have beautiful Righty and I am crafty, so I wish I was more of like a Bible journal where it was like the really pretty things in there, but I haven't quite figured that out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe maybe soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

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[SPEAKER_00]: But with all that in mind, kind of like let's talk about your great gratitude flexion exalt ask trust your great mornings tell us you use that as framework so kind of break down what that means and how it's changed your morning time and how other people can use it as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so great, actually first just came to me and what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mentioned that I was in a really difficult season, where God met me and called me to rise with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I started to say to my husband, you know what, taste can be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll say why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I would say because I began with God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No matter what's gonna come away, no matter what hardship I'm going to face, no matter what difficult decision is going to come away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be great because I sat in the blessings and the presence of God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I surrendered to God and I gave it to God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God's Day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And eventually, as I was exploring different prayer practices for the morning hour, you know, Lexio de Vina or the prayer of Xiamen, eventually, I started to organize it in different ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I am a person I really like routine, I like structure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thrive most off of routine and structure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so eventually, I was on a walk one day in the woods praying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just this, I mean, Holy Spirit inspired moment where great actually stood for this prayer prompt that I would use in the mornings, which stands for gratitude, reflection, exaltation, asking, and trusting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the first one gratitude, the idea is that we are beginning by recognizing the presence of God in gratitude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: gratitude is an overflow of the recognition of the God that gives and gives and so in the morning times, you know, might just take a couple moments to simply say, God, here you are, God, here I am, and sitting in the embrace of God and then letting God know what you are grateful for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I mentioned my husband and I do this together, so we'll usually go back and forth and say, wow, I'm really, really grateful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that our boys had a great weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad and you know it was so grateful that Caleb had a good time with his friends at home coming and that she feels like he has a sense of belonging with his friends because we prayed for that for so long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know and there's there's different things that will be grateful for and sometimes it feels repetitive like you you're like well I just told God it was grateful for that yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we can never, like, I mean, there's so much science even that psychologists tell us about the power of gratitude in our minds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so although it's repetitive, it is doing an incredible work in our minds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's allowing us to connect with a God that gives and gives and gives and precious, say thank you, God, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then R stands for Reflect, which is a time of examin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a number of different ways that we can go through prayer of examin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the way that my husband and I do it right now is we begin with scripture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we are going through a Bible reading plan for a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're allowing

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[SPEAKER_01]: The scripture to examine our hearts, to kind of do that surgery on our heart and our mind, so we can reflect on, you know, the situation happened yesterday that I was really upset about and why didn't make me upset and what could God be saying to me through scripture about that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the idea of examin is to put a flashlight on our lives to hold up the mirror and say, God, search me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Search me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there anything in my life I need to confess a repents that I can be transformed?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then E is exalt and we either will read Psalm 45, 145 or we will listen to worship music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At this morning we listen to worship music and praise God to a song that we've been listening to lately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it goes into prayers, a petition which is asked, that's the A and great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the idea that we bring our request before a very good God that does listen, that a good God that does hear our prayers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And trusting that in that process of praying, God is doing a work in our hearts and our minds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we end with trust and trust is being able to say, okay, God, I've brought all of these requests to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have heard my prayer lay them at your feet and I surrender to you and I trust that this is your day that you will guide me that you've heard my request and that you are guiding me in them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it can be as simple as that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite way is to do the prayer of trust or the reading of Psalm 23, which we did this morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Psalm 23 is an incredible Psalm of trust.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that God leads us to still waters and through the valley of the shadow of death alike.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to go back to something about gratitude for a second, just in thinking about kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like a lot, one thing that I hear a lot from parents is kind of like almost a frustration because their kids will be, if they're praying together, they'll be like grateful for something silly or something really repetitive or something that seems kind of mundane and boring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love what you had to say about how important gratitude is in how it can be repetitive because I think it's just a good reminder that like it is okay if especially our little kids, any of

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[SPEAKER_00]: any of us are grateful to God for something like silly or that seems not that important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if our kids are going to God and gratitude, like we should encourage that, and that we want them to go deeper in their relationship eventually, but especially if your kids are little like not to get frustrated or discouraged if they're kind of stuck in that pattern.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, and I think oftentimes we get so just stuck in our prayer life because we think that it has to be profound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we have to bring profound things before God, and it has to be deep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we think, well, if I, I'm going to be great, but I've got to sit long and hard and find something so profound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I mean, I don't think we have to come up with something profound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, be really everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, being grateful for something like a warm bed is awfully profound for a lot of people who don't have access to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Being grateful for the clothes that we wear is an incredible gift that we have access to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, and again, like, even just those practices of being grateful for those things that may not seem all that profound is still an incredible practice because

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[SPEAKER_01]: up in the swirl and the chaos of the world and start to believe this guy is falling the world is against me and when we can return to be grateful for the simple things for reminding you know what, it's not so bad after all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, especially kind of going back to what you've seen before, if we pick up our phone straight away in the morning and start looking at the headlines or social media like nothing good comes from that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know anyone who's looking at the news right now and leaving being like, I feel so good about the state of humanity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so you're like, okay, so I can start my day that way, or I can start my day being grateful for the fact that my life is kind of boring right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, actually like a doctor's appointment, like a boring doctor's appointment is a great doctor's appointment because you know there's nothing wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think just kind of reframing that and it's a way absolutely and when we begin that way and instead of reaching for the latest headlines, I think God is preparing us to face the difficult things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so for example, I cheated a few days ago and we were in the middle of our prayer routine and we were transitioning from listening to worship music to go into script reading.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My husband was was looking for, you know, the scripture and I reached for my phone and I opened

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[SPEAKER_01]: My husband was what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I think, and I opened up a work email that was really upsetting and it ruined like it if I if I would have not done that if I if I would have instead like allowed cut to prepare me to read that email You know, I think it would have been very different, but that then just sat with me the rest of the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't just feel like he and stressed and things swirling, yeah, I see that because like I know there's a lot of like this isn't like a guilt thing like all of you reach from it for your phone your, you know, not a good Christian if you're not waking up earlier, not a good Christian like again, like this is not prescriptive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just know for me that I, you know, I know what it does to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know what it does to my soul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, you know, what kind of like just posture I get into when I reach for my phone first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just better for me to connect with God first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that you do this with your have been every morning, but give us, so if people are listening and they're like, my husband would never do this or this would feel really awkward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I want to do this, but I don't even know how to like bring up the topic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how, what would you say to people who are like, this sounds good, but I don't, I don't know where to start with my spouse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let me first say to those who are single, you know, maybe you're a single parent by, you know, for various reasons, you know, just get yourself a journal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't have to be cute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It can be a notebook.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all you have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if it's a cute inspires you and it makes you look forward to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get those pretty mark markers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get that the highlighters, get the pretty pens, get the pretty journal, and, you know, with gratitude, begin by making a gratitude list for reflect and, you know, pick out some scripture you want to read and, you know, ask yourself some questions on how God could examine your heart for exalt, put those airpods on, listen to some worship music, for ask, you can simply make a list, you know, on your journal of what those requests are and for trust and with Psalm 23.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, you know, I have a book about this other great morning revolution that outlines all of this where you can dig in more, but you know, if you if you're like, wow, I think I would kind of like to buy this with my with my spouse, you know, and maybe your spouse feels really overwhelmed, maybe they're not one that has really ever read the Bible or maybe like they feel like prayers kind of personal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could begin really simple and be like, hey,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you know, I was thinking like it might be nice to pray together in the mornings and try that out and you know, and if they're like, like, well, that's weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe you could just say, well, like, I'll do the praying first, you know, you don't have to worry about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, you can initiate it by the one to do the praying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I would say start small.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If like they seem overwhelmed by the idea, don't come at them with a 45 minute new routine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: journal and outline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it could be a quick three minute prayer before your feet hit the ground that day and maybe you're the one to do it and tell their own board.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and also it's kind of, yes, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it has not prescriptive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not prescriptive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every time it's going to look different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, pray for them and with them and start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think start small's really good because we do wheat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like people, I can see people buy a book like yours or I have a book about praying with kids, but they buy

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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe you just start a little bit five minutes and then build up to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I encourage people to do even the readers of this book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I say just build up to it, start five minutes, maybe just doing gratitude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when you're comfortable and you're invigorated, add more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's pushing snooze one last time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's about five minutes early.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which feels really hard in some days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do like how you talk about how it's been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See, it's no for you and right now you're sleeping in a little later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I used last year was always 530 wake up for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's like 6 because I just, it just right now I just don't have it in me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I need that extra 30 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll probably go back to 530, you know, and everything is up and down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like our faith.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like our life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, yep, exactly, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what matters the most is not the hour, but it's finding ways to begin with God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you think that from your personal experience?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how do you think that reclaiming your mornings?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And spending time with God has changed at your house atmosphere, not just for you, and not just for your husband, but for your kids too, like for your whole family?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, we've we have noticed a difference but more so even just in me because like if if I am if I'm healthy if I'm connecting with God, I'm just going to be a better mom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to be a better wife.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm even going to be better as a pastor and what I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: day in and day out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because God is setting my intentions for the day, God is setting the agenda in my heart for the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's something about those morning hours that is transforming my mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the Apostle Paul in Romans 12 says, therefore be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, that renewing is happening in the morning where my mind is still a blank canvas, where the Holy Spirit is

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[SPEAKER_01]: is renewing and changing my perspective on things and helping me to see things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as that renewing is happening and as that examining is happening in my own heart, I'm less reactive to my kids, I am more attentive, more present, more into, you know, and when I'm more in tune with God, that carries it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't stop being in tune with God, the moment I stop my prayer routine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I stay in tune with God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when we're in tune with God, the fruits of the Spirit begin to bear witness in our lives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so our family sees love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, and self-control.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying, if you do this, you'll be like a perfect Christian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could tell you a lot of the war stories in my home of the times where my mom has lost it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for the times when I'm not coming down right and perky like this isn't a prescription that if you do this then your life is going to be great far from it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll never yell at your kids for getting there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never yell at your kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, I got some miracle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I still lose my cool y'all like it's not a prescription that that's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, there is something to say them when we are aligning ourselves with God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The good, good, father, the good, good God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God will give us the gift of the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit bears these kinds of fruits in our lives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's not how you have to act in order to be a follower of Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Response to having the Holy Spirit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The more patient-ingential you are going to be with your kids and sometimes that's annoying because I wish that that was not the kick You know, I wish there was more of a prescription like a X Y and B and that you're gonna get this result and when really you're like I need to relive my heart with the Lord and be in tune with the Holy Spirit

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so easy, but so hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that's part of Christian parenting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, the apostle Paul is like, I do what I don't want to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't do what I want to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he felt that struggle real time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So tell us a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know where we can get your book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell us kind of how it's laid out so people can get an idea of it and how it can be such a useful tool for their mornings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the good news about this book is it can be read in a day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a pretty quick read.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a little over 150 pages and I did that on purpose because usually people who are wanting to start morning routine is usually often the type that gets overwhelmed at it and so I want to make this as simple and as accessible as I possibly could.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, the book begins with

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[SPEAKER_01]: introduction to, you know, a theology biblical theology of waking up early in the morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then from there, it goes on to talk about knowing your why, like just defining like, why are you going to do this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you going to start waking up in the morning?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then from there, it goes on to a simple teaching of prayer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we go into part two, which is the practice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about gratitude, exaltation, asking, trusting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I forgot about reflection, but we go through the acronym there and then talk about getting into the habit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a really simple accessible book which guides people on how to get into the practice and hopefully inspiring them to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This book can be really, it can be purchased pretty much anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, Amazon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm your favorite bookstore online from November to January.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It will be an end-cap at Walmart for their new year, new you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a promo that they're doing and so they'll be able to get it at Walmart and November to January some Myers stores are picking it up and yeah and if if you have a local bookstore hey tell them to pick it up they might just enjoy it so but otherwise online it's pretty unique and get it in Amazon same day yeah thank you and can we connect with you online too

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Best ways to connect with me online are Instagram or Facebook.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not cool enough to be on TikTok yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Real mindset here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll link all that stuff and show notes that people can find in the book and connect with you just to get a little more encouragement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is really helpful and approachable because I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody wants to spend their mornings with God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just the how.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just getting past it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is really challenging.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so this is a really good resource for family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you for just being faithful to God and getting it out there in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Helping parents and just everyone spend their mornings with God love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much for having me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for being here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for listening to the Christian parenting podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am so grateful to Terri Beth for helping us reimagine mornings with God in a way that actually fits real life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, if today encouraged you, just take one small step.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Set aside five minutes tomorrow and try the great pattern.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gratitude, reflection, and scripture, exalt in the song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ask God for what you need and end in trust.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can connect with Tara Beth Lee, John Instagram, or Facebook, and find her book The Great Morning Revolution, wherever books are sold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have everything linked in show notes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really easy for you to find.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If this show has been helpful, please follow, leave a quick review, and make sure that you share this episode with a friend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate it so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you again for listening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: May God bless you in your home this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: May the Lord meet you in the morning, renew your mind, and fill your day with his peace.

