WEBVTT 00:10.038 --> 00:12.021 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, welcome to a brand new episode. 00:12.081 --> 00:15.225 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the bottom five podcast with Jeremy Odom. 00:15.625 --> 00:25.118 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the show that we give you the five worst teams in the NFL heading into week number five. 00:25.238 --> 00:27.261 [SPEAKER_00]: Remember, it's not all my wins and losses. 00:27.702 --> 00:32.168 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, just because you're over just because you've got one win on the young season. 00:32.188 --> 00:33.970 [SPEAKER_00]: Does it mean 00:33.950 --> 00:38.377 [SPEAKER_00]: necessarily that you're the bottom of the barrel. 00:38.397 --> 00:45.388 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay some vibes come into impact here the fan base, the coaching situation, there's so many things to factor in. 00:45.749 --> 00:53.822 [SPEAKER_00]: You can hear it for the first time every single Thursday on WTO, where's the line sports betting podcast? 00:54.162 --> 00:58.850 [SPEAKER_00]: We give you the debut of the bottom five and your five best best. 00:58.870 --> 01:00.312 [SPEAKER_00]: Not just the bottom five. 01:00.460 --> 01:01.869 [SPEAKER_01]: The bottom five bets to go along. 01:02.151 --> 01:03.962 [SPEAKER_01]: The best bets to go along with the bottom five. 01:04.627 --> 01:05.492 [SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's. 01:05.573 --> 01:09.817 [SPEAKER_00]: they don't call the NFL the nefariously fun league for no reason. 01:09.857 --> 01:11.459 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we we like to bring what they call it. 01:11.499 --> 01:12.339 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a yeah, okay. 01:12.379 --> 01:14.121 [SPEAKER_00]: What they call it, yeah, yeah, I got it. 01:14.561 --> 01:18.145 [SPEAKER_00]: And we bring we bring a lot of those analytics with us as well. 01:18.165 --> 01:26.032 [SPEAKER_00]: Some nefariously fun analytics on how we determine who the five worst teams are heading into the week now. 01:26.233 --> 01:27.694 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't get lost in the analytics. 01:27.714 --> 01:29.776 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's more to it than just numbers. 01:29.796 --> 01:34.180 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of numbers that over, you know, 01:34.160 --> 01:35.782 [SPEAKER_01]: You take it to the next level. 01:36.042 --> 01:36.603 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing. 01:36.623 --> 01:39.727 [SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever been to a game and you've heard somebody sit next to you? 01:39.787 --> 01:40.287 [SPEAKER_00]: Just go on. 01:40.507 --> 01:41.409 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're terrible. 01:41.809 --> 01:42.730 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what are they doing? 01:42.970 --> 01:43.711 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:43.731 --> 01:44.933 [SPEAKER_00]: I consider all those things. 01:45.053 --> 01:46.755 [SPEAKER_00]: When the fans are chirping. 01:47.215 --> 01:47.536 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 01:47.976 --> 01:48.076 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 01:48.096 --> 01:50.659 [SPEAKER_00]: All of that gets put into the analysis. 01:50.760 --> 01:53.983 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is what spits out these five worst. 01:54.164 --> 01:54.524 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 01:54.544 --> 01:55.565 [SPEAKER_00]: Vibes. 01:55.926 --> 01:56.727 [SPEAKER_00]: Vibes are everything. 01:56.907 --> 01:59.610 [SPEAKER_00]: If the vibes are low, they end up on my desk. 02:01.058 --> 02:02.720 [SPEAKER_00]: for the Unders look for the Unders. 02:04.082 --> 02:06.224 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, for week 13, you're about a five. 02:06.305 --> 02:09.909 [SPEAKER_00]: Number five, the Minnesota Vikings. 02:10.690 --> 02:11.912 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, talk about low vibes. 02:12.072 --> 02:18.960 [SPEAKER_00]: Man, this is, this is a fan base that understands that things are just not gonna go their way a lot of times. 02:19.581 --> 02:23.126 [SPEAKER_00]: They have been through some heartbreak, but man, this season's been kind of weird for him. 02:23.646 --> 02:25.108 [SPEAKER_00]: Four and seven. 02:25.088 --> 02:31.120 [SPEAKER_00]: four and seven, it sits kind of in that every other, you know, they've had some games really look really good. 02:31.220 --> 02:34.467 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, JJ, like he was like Mr. MVP for a couple weeks. 02:34.507 --> 02:34.868 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 02:35.429 --> 02:36.792 [SPEAKER_00]: And then last week. 02:36.912 --> 02:38.355 [SPEAKER_01]: They got to cut him now. 02:40.040 --> 02:46.547 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just assumed he's got, you know, flare up on that injury, and he needs to get room a week to self-dressing. 02:46.567 --> 02:47.287 [SPEAKER_01]: Get back out here. 02:47.308 --> 02:48.489 [SPEAKER_01]: Take that cast. 02:49.410 --> 02:50.371 [SPEAKER_00]: Roll him back out. 02:51.352 --> 02:54.315 [SPEAKER_00]: But that 236 lost the Green Bay was very telling. 02:54.955 --> 02:56.637 [SPEAKER_00]: JJ did not look good at all. 02:57.398 --> 03:01.662 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, just like I said, play is playing like he needs another break from injury. 03:01.682 --> 03:02.143 [SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure. 03:02.623 --> 03:08.089 [SPEAKER_00]: They've got a stretch 03:08.069 --> 03:08.992 [SPEAKER_00]: 10 and 7. 03:09.614 --> 03:10.196 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 03:11.641 --> 03:13.206 [SPEAKER_00]: That's if we're thinking positively. 03:13.507 --> 03:15.453 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so they've got Seattle this week. 03:16.035 --> 03:17.098 [SPEAKER_00]: Then they've got the commanders. 03:18.041 --> 03:19.446 [SPEAKER_00]: The cowboys. 03:19.561 --> 03:22.327 [SPEAKER_00]: the Giants, the Lions, and the Packers. 03:23.149 --> 03:24.212 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple of games in there. 03:24.252 --> 03:24.532 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 03:24.572 --> 03:27.900 [SPEAKER_00]: We're just 10 and a half point dog to Seattle. 03:28.301 --> 03:28.742 [SPEAKER_00]: Correct. 03:28.762 --> 03:29.103 [SPEAKER_00]: Yikes. 03:29.845 --> 03:34.615 [SPEAKER_00]: And Minnesota hasn't necessarily played well against the spreads. 03:34.656 --> 03:36.480 [SPEAKER_00]: You're looking at that line being 10 and a half. 03:36.680 --> 03:37.763 [SPEAKER_00]: Thinking, oh, double digits. 03:37.783 --> 03:38.785 [SPEAKER_00]: That's high. 03:38.765 --> 03:56.284 [SPEAKER_00]: not not on the road against top 10 defense and what are we doing at quarterback there's a I see why it's a double digit yeah, so I'm look at that stretch and I go the positive side of me says the Minnesota could make a run but changing McCarthy at quarterback everything that's kind of been 03:56.264 --> 03:57.285 [SPEAKER_00]: mix in the season. 03:57.405 --> 03:57.826 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 03:57.846 --> 03:59.127 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's just not likely. 03:59.147 --> 04:01.990 [SPEAKER_00]: So now it's kind of flipping into, that's kind of a tough stretch. 04:02.010 --> 04:13.322 [SPEAKER_00]: But like you were just saying Seattle 10 and a half, that is actually my best bet this week with the Minnesota Vikings is Seattle covering that 10 and a half because the Vikings just have not been able to cover throughout this season. 04:13.582 --> 04:14.303 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's on the road. 04:14.703 --> 04:15.404 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's on the road. 04:15.444 --> 04:16.024 [SPEAKER_00]: Since Seattle. 04:16.505 --> 04:20.209 [SPEAKER_00]: And for whatever reason, they always have these weird feel like they're just weird games with Seattle. 04:20.229 --> 04:21.530 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, yeah. 04:21.630 --> 04:22.491 [SPEAKER_00]: It's been a tough 04:22.471 --> 04:30.563 [SPEAKER_01]: The NFC West has just kind of been back and forth, you know, you got, obviously three really good teams out there, maybe four. 04:30.843 --> 04:31.584 [SPEAKER_00]: So Sam Dr. 04:31.604 --> 04:32.065 [SPEAKER_00]: Revenge came. 04:32.225 --> 04:33.167 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there we go. 04:33.207 --> 04:35.730 [SPEAKER_00]: Number four, your loss Vegas Raiders. 04:36.151 --> 04:40.036 [SPEAKER_00]: At two in nine, they fired the offensive coordinator this week, Chip Kelly. 04:40.697 --> 04:40.798 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 04:40.818 --> 04:42.119 [SPEAKER_00]: You tell me, Chip Kelly was the problem. 04:43.281 --> 04:43.542 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. 04:44.042 --> 04:44.563 [SPEAKER_00]: Chip. 04:45.438 --> 04:49.783 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they got deeper problems than Chip Kelly, but he was the fall guy. 04:49.823 --> 04:59.795 [SPEAKER_00]: You also lost the Shador Sanders making his first NFL start Yeah, that is the first quarterbacks making his debut at the Browns. 04:59.895 --> 05:09.707 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like 2014 The Raiders only the Raiders could pull that off and they've got the chargers this week in LA the chargers are coming off of a buy 05:09.687 --> 05:13.431 [SPEAKER_00]: some offensive shake up little different voices are what not for the Raiders. 05:14.232 --> 05:21.280 [SPEAKER_00]: I do think the Raiders are going to cover this week, but man, Pete Carroll, he's got an answer all the questions so far. 05:21.520 --> 05:22.682 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a big point spread. 05:22.702 --> 05:25.685 [SPEAKER_01]: This is another big number nine and a half for the chargers. 05:25.865 --> 05:26.886 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just kind of funny. 05:27.347 --> 05:31.932 [SPEAKER_01]: The Raiders have to go back to LA place they called home twice. 05:31.912 --> 05:49.652 [SPEAKER_00]: three times and generally when they do go play in L.A. and it's a home game for the chargers it was a big big fan base that comes in for the Raiders so it's gonna be like a home game okay all right but you like the Raiders actually covering this nine and a half my best best is the Raiders plus nine and a half I'll give you two reasons. 05:49.873 --> 05:50.494 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 05:50.474 --> 05:53.837 [SPEAKER_00]: The raiders are going to shake it up offensively with Chip Kelly out this week. 05:53.857 --> 05:56.500 [SPEAKER_00]: So you just always know there's going to be something. 05:56.660 --> 05:56.881 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 05:56.901 --> 05:59.323 [SPEAKER_00]: You know that that that the charges are prepared off the wall. 05:59.483 --> 05:59.924 [SPEAKER_00]: Number two. 06:00.164 --> 06:01.986 [SPEAKER_00]: The charges always play one score games. 06:02.006 --> 06:02.586 [SPEAKER_00]: That's just what we do. 06:03.147 --> 06:05.770 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're in your chargers video over there. 06:05.990 --> 06:06.230 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 06:06.330 --> 06:07.111 [SPEAKER_00]: You know the ammo. 06:07.191 --> 06:07.772 [SPEAKER_01]: You know that. 06:08.592 --> 06:09.794 [SPEAKER_00]: That's just how it's going to go down. 06:09.814 --> 06:10.034 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 06:10.494 --> 06:16.060 [SPEAKER_00]: So that that game's going to be closer than what the line predicts even with L.A. coming off of a buy. 06:16.225 --> 06:37.778 [SPEAKER_00]: okay so we're we're climbing the ladder here who's number three number three the new York Jets at two in nine just got suboked by Baltimore 23 10 I called it last week that moving to Torade Taylor quarterback was moving to the future of 2026 that proved it there was no reason to believe honestly that the Jets are going to win another game in 25 06:37.893 --> 06:39.896 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they want their fan base doesn't want them to. 06:40.116 --> 06:42.880 [SPEAKER_00]: They want they want to lock down that number one pick. 06:42.900 --> 06:47.166 [SPEAKER_00]: They somehow, some way, Mike McCoy and the Tennessee Titans need to win a game. 06:47.427 --> 06:50.191 [SPEAKER_00]: So that the jets can get back into that number one spot. 06:50.852 --> 06:53.295 [SPEAKER_00]: But at two at nine, they're going to do anything they can to lose. 06:54.097 --> 06:57.842 [SPEAKER_00]: They do have Atlanta this week at Atlanta, only fair two and a half. 06:57.822 --> 07:23.485 [SPEAKER_01]: Kurt Cousins didn't look too bad this week so no that's with the jets kind of the way they're throwing things I've got my best bet Atlanta minus two and a half and this is like a perfect game for Kurt Cousins Where he knows is really he's got one of the leading wrestlers in the league in Bajon Robinson He's just gonna hand the ball off hit those five yards slants on third down just move the sticks kind of stay out of the way and They're just they're gonna beat him by over two and a half. 07:23.505 --> 07:26.268 [SPEAKER_01]: I firmly believe that yeah. 07:26.808 --> 07:27.829 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah 07:27.809 --> 07:30.834 [SPEAKER_00]: number two, the Cincinnati Bengals. 07:31.535 --> 07:37.005 [SPEAKER_00]: One year has been three and eight and they even managed to make that game against New England. 07:37.045 --> 07:40.110 [SPEAKER_00]: They lost 26-20 then and it managed to make it a game. 07:40.130 --> 07:44.898 [SPEAKER_00]: I actually was believing for a little bit that Flacco was going to be able to pull off the victory. 07:45.599 --> 07:49.446 [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't, it's too little too late, but Joe Burrell is back. 07:49.426 --> 07:50.308 [SPEAKER_00]: this week. 07:50.629 --> 08:01.134 [SPEAKER_01]: Nice game play NBC up third thanksgiving Thursday night football Hollywood Joe just happens to show up when the lights are on with the lights are on yep. 08:01.154 --> 08:06.186 [SPEAKER_00]: So the bangles with Joe Burrell are two and oh against the spread this season. 08:07.567 --> 08:19.130 [SPEAKER_00]: That was the first two games and a lot has happened since then including this defense completely falling apart, but they are two and oh That gives me enough confidence to take the bangles plus seven as my best bet. 08:19.150 --> 08:19.631 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. 08:19.731 --> 08:25.643 [SPEAKER_01]: This is this feels kind of weird you've been a bangle basher throughout this which they saw 08:26.078 --> 08:30.225 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's still the second worst team in the NFL going to the week offensively. 08:30.245 --> 08:30.926 [SPEAKER_01]: They are they worse. 08:30.946 --> 08:32.208 [SPEAKER_01]: They are the 30 second. 08:32.549 --> 08:39.300 [SPEAKER_00]: There you go best team And I do think they're going to lose this game But I do like that in the cover the plus seven. 08:39.380 --> 08:46.973 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a big number in the NFL Touchdown the extra point to go along with it and Baltimore has been so inconsistent 08:46.953 --> 08:53.099 [SPEAKER_01]: Regardless of who's on the field, who's not on the field are the ravens, are they still in time out? 08:53.179 --> 08:54.800 [SPEAKER_01]: Did they get their video games back? 08:54.900 --> 08:56.602 [SPEAKER_01]: Did they get their food's ball table back? 08:56.622 --> 09:08.512 [SPEAKER_00]: So they they haven't gotten them back yet, but they have been told that if they eat their Thanksgiving dinner, all of it, all of it, and they take care of the bangles that they could get their games back. 09:08.633 --> 09:12.376 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that might that might be thinking that they might cover that seven day in my comment. 09:12.396 --> 09:16.960 [SPEAKER_01]: Those guys, some of those guys, they 09:16.940 --> 09:20.665 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm going to bet on Joe Burrell. 09:20.905 --> 09:21.265 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 09:21.285 --> 09:23.228 [SPEAKER_00]: And his confidence here on this one. 09:23.248 --> 09:24.790 [SPEAKER_00]: Hollywood Joe, Hollywood Joe, baby. 09:25.390 --> 09:31.458 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, number one, the worst team in the NFL's we had in the week 13 is the New York Giants. 09:32.259 --> 09:41.390 [SPEAKER_00]: At two in 10, now you might be thinking with James Winston at quarterback, how could the Giants fan base not be excited and not have high vibes? 09:41.650 --> 09:43.132 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was a electric last week. 09:43.492 --> 09:44.213 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of fun. 09:44.193 --> 09:52.520 [SPEAKER_00]: with all the injuries, all the losses, the coaches getting fired, and now you got James Winston to look forward to, and they still lost. 09:52.541 --> 09:52.681 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 09:52.701 --> 09:54.402 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, at this point, I don't know what the giants could do. 09:54.622 --> 09:55.083 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there. 09:56.064 --> 09:56.924 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a lost call. 09:56.985 --> 09:57.545 [SPEAKER_01]: David rolled out. 09:57.605 --> 10:02.770 [SPEAKER_01]: James and he did the whole thing gave us an all-time quote, you know, Shakespearean type stuff. 10:03.631 --> 10:03.731 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 10:03.751 --> 10:04.391 [SPEAKER_01]: Next level. 10:05.232 --> 10:07.794 [SPEAKER_01]: I know we're outside, but we're inside. 10:08.034 --> 10:11.337 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll actually we're outside, but I mean, try to keep up with that. 10:12.498 --> 10:14.200 [SPEAKER_00]: He'll always make you think. 10:14.180 --> 10:16.803 [SPEAKER_01]: He'll always make the day thinker. 10:17.024 --> 10:20.989 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's seven and a half point dog to New England Monday night. 10:21.390 --> 10:21.910 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing. 10:22.331 --> 10:23.833 [SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of points are going to get scored. 10:24.053 --> 10:25.014 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm. 10:25.034 --> 10:25.195 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 10:25.795 --> 10:29.761 [SPEAKER_00]: Six out of the last seven games, the giants have hit the over. 10:30.522 --> 10:37.111 [SPEAKER_00]: And now that James Winston has got a few games under his belt, and he's feeling, you know, prepared and hyped. 10:37.751 --> 10:39.273 [SPEAKER_00]: I like to see that trend continue. 10:39.754 --> 10:42.718 [SPEAKER_00]: I like the over a 46 and a half in this game. 10:43.340 --> 10:44.912 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, the total 46.5. 10:45.053 --> 10:47.410 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not too high for you. 10:47.491 --> 10:51.236 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the way that James has been flying, and let's give New England their do. 10:51.876 --> 10:51.976 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 10:51.996 --> 10:52.637 [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty efficient. 10:52.657 --> 10:55.461 [SPEAKER_01]: Drake may still in the discussion for MVP. 10:56.222 --> 10:57.944 [SPEAKER_01]: He's put together a heck of a season. 10:57.964 --> 10:59.005 [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to want to defend home. 10:59.025 --> 11:00.487 [SPEAKER_01]: They want to keep winning, stacking up wins. 11:01.048 --> 11:02.770 [SPEAKER_01]: And New York, it does feel at this point. 11:03.350 --> 11:04.291 [SPEAKER_01]: They're, it's fine. 11:04.331 --> 11:05.913 [SPEAKER_01]: They're just rolling out there for fun. 11:05.994 --> 11:07.796 [SPEAKER_01]: And nothing's more fun than a touchdown. 11:09.217 --> 11:09.738 [SPEAKER_01]: Right? 11:09.758 --> 11:11.000 [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing's more fun than a touchdown. 11:11.060 --> 11:12.121 [SPEAKER_00]: What helps us get to that over? 11:12.321 --> 11:14.624 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll give you one thing that's more fun than a touchdown. 11:14.744 --> 11:15.045 [SPEAKER_00]: What's that? 11:15.145 --> 11:16.266 [SPEAKER_00]: Eat in him, dubs. 11:19.317 --> 11:22.903 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, see, James needs to have like this memoir. 11:22.943 --> 11:27.872 [SPEAKER_01]: He needs to just have one like mid-career and then he can worry about a memoir post-career. 11:27.912 --> 11:28.193 [SPEAKER_00]: Post-career. 11:28.213 --> 11:29.074 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're ready. 11:29.635 --> 11:30.637 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the world might need it. 11:30.697 --> 11:33.102 [SPEAKER_01]: Like right now, just more fun. 11:33.282 --> 11:33.983 [SPEAKER_00]: How cool is that? 11:34.063 --> 11:38.912 [SPEAKER_00]: That he's so prolific that you could have two biographies. 11:38.892 --> 11:44.402 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's, I, and if there's one guy that could pull it off, it's James Winston. 11:44.422 --> 11:45.083 [SPEAKER_01]: James, what's that? 11:45.103 --> 11:49.270 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you did it right now, it could be like, well, those are the first five teams he played for. 11:49.811 --> 11:53.838 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the next one could include the next five team that he played. 11:53.858 --> 11:55.020 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no slow this guy down. 11:55.040 --> 11:55.822 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not at all. 11:56.783 --> 11:58.807 [SPEAKER_01]: The NFL is always sure or something like that. 11:59.087 --> 11:59.989 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 12:00.374 --> 12:01.478 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's our bottom five. 12:01.718 --> 12:02.721 [SPEAKER_01]: Love it, love it. 12:02.922 --> 12:06.935 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, and I think I feel pretty good about each and every one of those bets. 12:07.095 --> 12:10.245 [SPEAKER_01]: We've kind of laid it out there or why those things are going to hit. 12:10.607 --> 12:11.148 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 12:11.168 --> 12:12.412 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're making money. 12:12.794 --> 12:12.934 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 12:12.994 --> 12:13.877 [SPEAKER_01]: Winners only this week.