[SPEAKER_02]: Hey everybody, welcome to the LA Auto Show 2025.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're here standing at front of the Mustang GTD, but more importantly, boom!
[SPEAKER_03]: What's up guys?
[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, I want to work with you, Tommy.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're in LA, so, tell me with me, say, sub.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sub, sub.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to drop it down there.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how you say hello and goodbye in California.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is a brand new Camero.
[SPEAKER_03]: No way, it's not.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm kidding, guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it actually, on stage looks stunning.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't think the GTD look that great.
[SPEAKER_03]: But in yellow here it looks really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and we're here with all of our media friends at media days But what we're gonna do today Nathan is give you guys a complete walk around of L8 2025 Soap and Let's take it through the new product lines and the new cars that you guys need to know about So that if you're in the LA region or you just want to see what's new in the industry we can check out what's going on
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's some good news.
[SPEAKER_03]: The other shows actually sort of increased in size for a while.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was sort of dying down a little bit and it was getting kind of worrisome.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there are some brands that every turn and we're going to see those brands.
[SPEAKER_03]: But for now, we're going to be in the room where Ford is pretty much dominant, but there is quite a few things from Kia and Honda right over my shoulder.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ford, actually, like he said, Nathan, they've got a huge presence here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they've got everything from Mustangs to Explores to Expeditions.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, actually I'm curious about these Tommy because did you have you guys received these in Colorado yet because this is where they belong?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we've tested the new tremor, but I'm excited to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that this is this is the explorer to get if you're going to get one.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got the the doola offro tires.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got the tolox in the front.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it is a pretty expensive though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's almost 50 grand, but you know what?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean the power on these things has always been really go the EcoBoost power train and the thing is is that if you guys remember the original
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, explore.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was off-road.
[SPEAKER_03]: It could actually go off-road.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, not hardcore, but could do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they kind of went away from that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I like the fact that they're bringing it back.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm hoping that we'll be able to get it up in Colorado, so you guys can do things to it because in that light it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is one thing Nathan, so you'll see it on the Expedition Trauma.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just can't get past what they're doing is putting these like gold accents in the wheels but only on one spoke.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this reminds me of a toddler who has just one tooth in the front of his mouth.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not sure I'm on board with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but you see here's the thing, if you pay more, you then you get all of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, that's good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, Ford.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some people like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's keep walking around here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, of course, Ford big on Bronco here at LA, so they've got static displays of Bronco Raptor, Bronco Sport.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the new street view thing they've been working on with Google to map like the Trans-America Trail, so they've got that here, which is cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: If we kind of walk away through here, Nathan, this is, I think, the new Broncos for Sasquatch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, are you doing one of these?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I have.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like at the studio?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, we did and it was awesome, especially this new Sasquatch with that little bit of additional lift, it's really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really like it, the only problem is I had one in L.A. driving it through L.A. traffic.
[SPEAKER_03]: And um, better off with something perhaps without the really beefy tire because it's trust me, you'll be happier.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is kind of cool, so we have some 60, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very expensive, special edition Broncos, but look what they brought.
[SPEAKER_02]: The little bass model, Nathan?
[SPEAKER_03]: Now here's the cool part, Tommy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got a chance to drive the bass model, one of these against a Wrangler Sport 2 Door, just recently, and kind of evaluating the two based on their entry price and what they're worth.
[SPEAKER_03]: So these start, I think around 38 in change.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the Wrangler, the equivalent, starts at like 35, I think is roughly what it is, or 36.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it is a little bit less expensive, but here's the cool part.
[SPEAKER_03]: It actually comes standard with that roof, the hardtop.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I mean it's kind of funky coming to an auto show and seeing your car with steel wheels.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you're in a steel wheels, Ford is the booth for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I've got the Bronco on steel wheels, the base model F-150, the base model Maverick, and they have a base model F-250 over there, so.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I, I, I love steel wheels.
[SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely do.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I know Andre actually is partial to them as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he would be proud of us for covering that right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, dude, I think what's happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much, what's in it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Pedro, nice to meet you, Pedro.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pedro, nice to meet you, Pedro.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're doing the podcast right now, but, uh, I just just say hi to everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Nathan, I think what Ford's realizing here is people are getting real tired.
[SPEAKER_02]: of the sticker shock of some of these upper end trims, so I think that's why we're starting to see even at these auto shows where typically they want to bring their best foot forward, they're bringing out Excel F250s that have vinyl seats because this is what people realistically might be able to afford.
[SPEAKER_03]: Think about it this way, if you look at the working group of people out there, the ones who actually are using trucks for their daily deal, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: in order to haul things in order to move things in order to take care of that physical things.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the truck they want to get something heavy duty that has no frills and they don't want to spend 50 or 60 grand for it so something like this I'm assuming would be far less expensive.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it has a sticker on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not 50, but I mean still starting at 45, so there's one very well, it could be 50.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Nathan, if you do want to experience some more than just walking around, this is cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Check this out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, Ford's got some of their Bronco Off-Roadie experience here, so you can check out this Bronco going up this huge steel structure.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got like an elephant hole simulation there.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd like to go up that because you just floor it and see what happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think they should try to get as much air as possible.
[SPEAKER_03]: That would be what I would do.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's actually interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't expect them to do this because a lot of these auditions are getting rid of the indoor driving, unless it's an electric vehicle.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the fact that they're doing this with internal combustion,
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm impressed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, very cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're gonna make our way over to some other automakers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now Nathan, can you kind of explain how the LA Auto Show works?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not all in one room, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's not.
[SPEAKER_03]: First of all, LA Auto Show dates back all the way to 1907.
[SPEAKER_03]: Since then, it hasn't been always at this venue.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been bounced around quite a bit, but essentially, LA has been, whatever you guys like it or not, one of the mechas for,
[SPEAKER_03]: automobile culture.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it especially accelerated after World War II, going to that whole story later.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, the point is that since then they've expanded and expanded.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now we're at a point to where the auto show is really in two main buildings, an east and the west wing, but they also have a couple other smaller offshoot wings as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: And as you heard for us say,
[SPEAKER_03]: Things have improved.
[SPEAKER_03]: The show has actually grown, not shrunk, which is something that you wouldn't expect.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm happy to see that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're now walking into the Honda booth, and let's start with this, because what Honda is doing here, when you first walk in the Honda with your greeted by two passports.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, both of these are passport trail sports, and I kind of want to go show you guys this orange one, Honda really has been pushing their off-road capabilities in the new passport, and this concept by Honda Racing has some really cool features like this high clearance front bumper.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got integrated tow looks and the best part is this winch, but Nathan, what I love about this, this is so integrated, this might be something we could see in a future car.
[SPEAKER_03]: This looks factory right off the bat and here's the cool part, they actually took a page out of some of the other automakers where they've cut away this section here to increase your approach angle for your tire.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you can go up and over those rocks easier.
[SPEAKER_03]: Other automakers have been doing it for a while.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now they might be doing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: In addition, they have the sliders.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now these are dealer install.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're extruded aluminum and they're covered in steel.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they need them because the ground clearance of these things isn't quite enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: And here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you guys have tested them as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's got a really good oil drive system.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very capable.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, the ground clearance has always been an issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: So by having,
[SPEAKER_03]: better access on the front, better approach ankle, that's already a plus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and check this out out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fact, we have a high-clear rear bumper as well with the swing out tire carrier.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and this was not hooked to the hitch, which is what I was expecting.
[SPEAKER_03]: This actually has its own dedicated mounting here in the bumper.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: This once again looks like something that could come from the factory.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, up top, it's got the Honda Racing roof rack.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Got a high lift up there, some max tracks.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it says off-road, like a heavy roof rack up top.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I like the flat orange on this thing, and I'm hoping that we actually see some of these parts make it at least into the aftermath of catalog, it's not an introduction.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Honda's learned a valuable lesson, and they're starting to do better at making vehicles more off-roady, and the irony, of course, is the fact that this is the same company that builds the talent and a whole bunch of really cool off-roaders that are dedicated.
[SPEAKER_03]: So why not take some of that technology and work it over towards these vehicles?
[SPEAKER_03]: Interestingly, in Tommy, if you look at these two side by side, you can see how much higher this one is.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is Honda Racing 1 over the regular trail sport.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's much, much taller, but what's great about it, it doesn't feel like it's hacked together.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of this stuff feels like there might be prototyping for stuff coming forward.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if you've got a Seema, sometimes you can actually see like cut marks in what not.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, jagged little sections of vehicles I've just recently been cut.
[SPEAKER_03]: But here's the big story.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so Honda's reintroducing the prelude into the North American market.
[SPEAKER_02]: This has gone on sale and Japan for quite a while now.
[SPEAKER_02]: But here's a question Nathan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Starting price of $38,000, people are going to buy us.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a great question.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is a 200 horsepower vehicle.
[SPEAKER_03]: It basically has the same power train right out of the Civic hybrid, which is actually pretty good.
[SPEAKER_03]: But no exactly what I would call sporty.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what they did to compensate for that is they took a lot of the components out of the Civic Type R and they put them up front.
[SPEAKER_03]: So struts the old-world suspension geometry breaking.
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of that does come directly from the Civic Type R, meaning that it is built for cornering performance.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you got 200 horsepower and a relatively lightweight vehicle.
[SPEAKER_03]: really good gas mileage and something that can corner.
[SPEAKER_03]: What is missing though, Tommy?
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think is missing?
[SPEAKER_03]: A manual.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Every single prelude has had a manual transmission option.
[SPEAKER_03]: This does not.
[SPEAKER_03]: Will that affect people who are trying to buy a car that's sporting fun?
[SPEAKER_03]: The question goes on to Toyota.
[SPEAKER_03]: GR86 manual transmission, or even something like a Miata.
[SPEAKER_03]: Manual transmission, one of the best manual transmissions out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's a big question, but here's something cool, Tommy, come back here.
[SPEAKER_03]: See where that lip is right there on the roof?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's actually the point of the cantilever where it lifts up this whole hatch lifts upward.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there is a lot of utility.
[SPEAKER_03]: We put the seats down and you can actually fit in one of the treadmills you'd add, use this on a daily basis with the walker.
[SPEAKER_03]: It'll easily fit in there and do that a problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that, I mean, there is a lot of space.
[SPEAKER_03]: The irony, of course, is that the back seat not a lot of space.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a trade-off there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think people will buy it, Honda fans will definitely buy it, will it be a big seller?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's going to be a middle seller and I think it's going to have a hard time competing against the Toyota.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, here at the Honda booth, they have a little bit of everything, we've got civics, we've got civic type bar, we've got an Odyssey, we've got a rich line, we've got an accord.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we've got a little bit of everything and if you guys are in the area and you're looking at buying, for example, like a rich line or CRV, you can come out here and get hands on with a car sitting at, poke the buttons, see if it fits you and that's a cool stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the best part about auto shows that's the only reason in my mind that auto shows still have real relevance which is why I'm hoping they don't go away because you, you know, the audience, listen there, you guys can actually come out here and physically touch and play with the vehicle.
[SPEAKER_03]: See if you fit comfortably, see if it's something that you really like in person.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now recently we're standing at the passport now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, the pilot and the pilot has had a major update with the friend and design and interior design as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so this is kind of one of the cool
[SPEAKER_02]: Even if you're not part of the media, you'll have an access to get hands-on with like a pilot before most of us in some cases.
[SPEAKER_02]: So as Nathan said, they've got this new Ma on the pilot.
[SPEAKER_02]: This big kind of squared off chunky grill.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you like the way it looks?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a little bit more manly, which is what they're aiming for, um, and I like the color.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they've got ash green.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is new to the pilot trail sport.
[SPEAKER_03]: They put it on the CRB as well, which is right next to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can see that over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then on the inside, we've got bigger screens for 2020.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they locked it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's because this is a brand new vehicle that hasn't hit production yet and they don't want anybody getting in there and stealing Polar parts.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're worried about Toyota spies.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's got a new 12.3 inch infotainment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Infotainment thanks Nathan and a 10.2 inch digital cluster.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think this is going to be a big seller for him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it already has been.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you look at Honda and their matrix in terms of sales, they've managed to stay total competitive with companies like Toyota, of course, Nissan, and part of the reason why is because they've been very intelligent about where they've been placed in their vehicles.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, of course, nothing's perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've heard stories that perhaps reliability has dropped with some of their vehicles, but then I've heard different things, which is like improvements overall with overall quality.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really good, really good product against very competitive product.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and we're in Rivian.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a Rivian band, yeah Actually, this is the overland section.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a whole area here full of overland bands and jeeps and that kind of thing If you want to check out the latest in off-road accessories and then as we make a way over here Rivian has a presence at the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they do so they've got a R1T.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they've in R1S back there, maybe and then that is something brand new
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, check this out.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll come right in the back.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to kind of see up close and personal what the new R2 looks like, this is it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Nathan, this car's got to work for the company because it's kind of make her break, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: A little bit, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this one and then the baby, which all of us agree is like, the R3 is going to be like an absolute killer.
[SPEAKER_03]: This one here though, this slots underneath should be far less expensive.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't know exactly what the price in is yet But there's a whole bunch of things going on with Rivian right now business wise.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they've got to be able to go into a smoke swag and they are no longer making their bands I believe
[SPEAKER_03]: They have pretty good presence in Los Angeles alone, which is, by the way, they have a whole bunch of design and manufacturing outlets in Los Angeles or the area surrounding it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this vehicle here, I've been hearing stories that they've been running around in certain hidden areas, testing them, so they're very serious about production.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of funny about this, so this is an all-new vehicle, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Separate from the R1.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it looks identical.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just like they shrunk it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just like you can see the R1 behind it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I kind of feel like that whole Russian nesting doll that BMW's been doing forever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't it really working anymore?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because people want their new car to look different from the older car.
[SPEAKER_02]: That I think could hold them back.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm not 100% sure where to go with this because I do like Rivian design.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the fact that they keep things sort of simple and they're not pushing too hard to go crazy, but at the same time, if you're not just for inching any of yourself enough from your other vehicles, some people will get bored.
[SPEAKER_03]: yeah for sure yeah so let us know what you think of the new R2 it's got to work for the company so Nathan let's kind of wind our way over here here let's sneak on through here so this is check this out they actually have a way of taking the essence of CEOs and journalists and then through this court they're actually sucking into the vehicle
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is an even line.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that is a great way to extend your mileage.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is hilarious So what I think they're showing the bidirectional charging.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but you're so funny Nathan And we're gonna kind of squeak on over here because EV 9 is not necessarily all new But what we do have here is very exciting are two logs tied together with some string
[SPEAKER_03]: But that is important because that is the new design principle of K-F.
[SPEAKER_03]: Throw two logs together, see what happens, people will buy it.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is the brand new tellerite and it is physically on the outside, all new, in the inside, all new.
[SPEAKER_03]: It does have some carryover, but immunity has a slightly longer wheelbase, it's a slightly larger vehicle, and there is a lot in my mind at least, there's a lot of Land Rover Range Rover 5 going on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, especially like the front end's got it's kind of unique flare But if you look at it from the back with these very narrow right vertical tail lights If you were to eliminate this one and then just have this you would certainly have yeah But they did take some risks.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll keep them credit.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they decided to go whole different direction and if you look over at that one over there
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at what they do with the wheel well, and that design.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is really funky.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Nathan, you actually were out at the launch list.
[SPEAKER_02]: You saw the off-road trim, the X-Pro.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which is basically this.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, check this out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, here at LA, we have our first chance at looking at the Pelsade hybrid.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is the big news from the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what they've done here is they've taken the tell your iPhone, and they've added fuel economy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we learned that the standard tell your ID has a 2.4 liter turbo-4.
[SPEAKER_02]: which is different than the Palisade, which was running a natural aspirated V6.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then this hybrid is a 2.5 liter turbo 4 plus an electrical system, something like 329 horsepower in this hybrid, they're targeting 35 MPG.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is much more sleek, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's lower to the ground, it's more street oriented.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is, and that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: You want lower rolling resistance tires.
[SPEAKER_03]: You want a little bit lower profile, so you can have better aerodynamics less.
[SPEAKER_03]: When resistance, that all makes sense in terms of getting that.
[SPEAKER_03]: really impressive MPG, but if you look just at that door panel, look at the colors they're using now.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are way past retro, we are looking cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the fact that they're using purple.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is for those of you who are into prints and into funky.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're going to dig that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's pretty crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have a variety of different colors that they're using for the interior design now.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is just one example of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at the perforated seats and the way that design them, I mean,
[SPEAKER_03]: You guys seriously they are definitely punching above their weight when it comes to the luxury level
[SPEAKER_03]: And I am impressed with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: How would drives?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what are you going to have to wait and see?
[SPEAKER_03]: The last tell you ride left me a little luke warm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I wasn't into the transmission, but everything else I loved.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm curious to see what they've done with the updates.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what we're looking at here, power, slide, and recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline recline
[SPEAKER_02]: The new palesade has got those fatter tail lights.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like the old Range Rover and the new tie ride is the thinner ones and it looks like the new Range Rover.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Most of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the thing is that there's certainly some, here's a big thing though.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is one of the risks they took.
[SPEAKER_03]: This doesn't really serve a purpose.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was square.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this little notch right here.
[SPEAKER_03]: And one of the things that was said when they did the unveiling is, this is something that will make it immediately recognizable from the side.
[SPEAKER_03]: because nobody else is doing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can have a check and say, look at that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think those are both 12.3 screens that are combined with a small four-inch screen in between.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at that.
[SPEAKER_02]: The squackle steering wheel, the two-tone design, two-tone seats with this purple and white.
[SPEAKER_02]: You get these grab- Come on, tell me you like the purple.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't say you don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I like the model.
[SPEAKER_03]: You wear purple pants.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm not that fruity.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen you with orange pants.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did do my orange pants.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought so.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're an L.A. you should.
[SPEAKER_02]: But clearly, they've got a little nuts with some of the IP in this car.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does still a physical buttons, which was the right move.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I agree 100%.
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of the controls surfaces, too, also feel higher quality, which I know a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Just little things like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I like the fact that they pay attention to that detail.
[SPEAKER_03]: So right out of the box, they're already, once again, punching well about their weight.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, this is cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I think that Kia is on the right move with this taleride, the old one, was a huge huge use seller for the brand.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They did really well with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, let's see how the new one does.
[SPEAKER_02]: I suspect, even better.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, Nathan, that's kind of the big news out of this first haul.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, we're going to cut here and then join you again at the next one.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are now in the other pavilion.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this pavilion has Hyundai Volkswagen Toyota Genesis and Nissan among others.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is the end of the test track, which is indoors for Hyundai.
[SPEAKER_03]: And look at this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They got a cruising around.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, well, you'll appreciate this.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a T-bone style set up here where you go around and then go all the way to make them.
[SPEAKER_03]: They put out a, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So just to make sure that if you hit something, you get maximum points.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which is really it's like hockey.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that is something that I didn't expect to see But it's actually very cool to see that and this is what I was kind of expecting to see because Electric vehicles indoors you could test them all you want don't worry about exhaust and whatnot So let's have a look at what we got here because the big star of the show I think for Hyundai
[SPEAKER_03]: is the new Palachade.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I just went on the program for the Palachade hybrid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we had just kind of went in depth with the telly ride, and this is going to be the Hyundai version of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Nathan, which designed do you like more?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a tough one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I like the telly ride a little bit more, because it has more of a off-roady feel, probably because it resembles Range Rover Land Rover type thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this driving light thing here,
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like a retro futuristic thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I expect to see this in movies like The Demolition Man.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was a semester long movie before you were born.
[SPEAKER_03]: But stuff like this is just like really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at that flash, just an on Q.
[SPEAKER_02]: you know what I really like about this car is.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can still get it with a Nath Jasper in V6 where the Kia has gone turbo 4 only.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you want to have that old school feel, you can get it in a pal save.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm surprised about is the fact that they didn't go plug in hybrid right out of the box like a lot of other companies have.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm expecting to see that in the near future.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got special guests.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a very special guest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wait.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very special there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fresh from China, my friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fresh from China, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's actually there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got actually like a couple days ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not seriously.
[SPEAKER_03]: He just cut back and drove a bunch of vehicles with Richard Hemman.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was hanging out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you think?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a huge fan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the design of this magnificent granted it's a lot of fast followers still with the like look Range Rover, but this is where they go with something different.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope I heard what you were saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also think they've gotten to the point of the tactile feel on the inside is unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_03]: This and also the tell you're right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Same thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like the interior design.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a big idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're punching way above their weight.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I like to tell you right yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not committed.
[SPEAKER_01]: However, I'm going to say something to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK. Mick, Tom, make sure you see his face.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm going to say it.
[SPEAKER_01]: My face here I go.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: The interior of this looks like what car from the 70s.
[SPEAKER_01]: A Cadillac elder Rado.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's saying that for the wrong reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: Competeer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Inside of this car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at the phone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I have no idea what he said.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK, look.
[SPEAKER_01]: the dash, the shape of the dash.
[SPEAKER_01]: What does that look like?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, okay, it does look a little bit, Lincoln.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like it does look like a link from the 70s.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the upper section, the way that goes up.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a little bit from the Lincoln.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So look at the tactile, I mean, this is e-b you guys can't touch it, but this is leathered wine.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what the calligraphy or something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what is old is new again.
[SPEAKER_03]: And to their credit, I mean, they've managed to match color,
[SPEAKER_03]: fabric and feel and the other things that switched here feels fairly good as well it's not like super cheap.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know where the hell they're getting their savings on these vehicles to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like they're losing money on these.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to ask you guys, you're both your opinions.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Hyundai Kia famously has these very square-off screens but notice with this design theme everything is rounded, even the console.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it or don't
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm used to it as opposed to liking it because everything is doing square screens or you have a hyper screen like Mercedes, which I don't like.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I'm getting used to that and I like the fact that this one has that curve to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a specific name.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, the curve is kind of cool as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what do you think Tommy?
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to grab your mic?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I I don't love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the interior.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just wish they'd curve the screens or gotten rid of the screens So I'm not sure I'm on board, but Motoman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I got ask you tell me what's the highlight of the show this year?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh God, that's thanks for your putting me on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Leave it to town, leave it to town, leave it to town.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's put it on the spot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't say put it on the spot.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give you a very personal highlight of the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say it is the Hyundai Crater concept, because number one.
[SPEAKER_01]: it's going to be a real thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't tell you how I know this.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be exactly like that, but you're going to see not just the general shape of that car, but the details from the interior things like this will actually make it inside the car so you're going to get less screens, less haptic feedback and more real buttons like you see there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And don't you think it's a bit of a faux pas to name it after a natural disaster?
[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of like avalanched in the last very long, get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I guess we're going back to the Chevy Note.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're saying it on the TFO Classics.
[SPEAKER_02]: There we go, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it is a cool thing, and we're going to hit that in just a minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so this is something we've never seen from Hyundai before.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is called the Crater Concept.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what Moto Man is just talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe what would you describe the exterior look to be like?
[SPEAKER_03]: As off-roady as you can get with a simple design, I'm going to say that you open the doors and it says, Anian Naseho.
[SPEAKER_03]: It welcomes you, and it's a very...
[SPEAKER_03]: Hyundai Esk design.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at the pixeled tail light design that they have going on over here.
[SPEAKER_03]: This included pixels on the top for extra lighting.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's something I think you're going to see in production.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that this is standing the way it's standing, I don't think we're going to see the exact same model like this, but I think that they're going to shoot for a super off-road capable vehicle, something that could do a lot more than their current batch of vehicles in the rough.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm told that this is up running on 35 inch tall tires and it does have some real rubber and some real sidewall.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think they eliminated the name, but that's a felt and off from tire.
[SPEAKER_02]: That pretty much is.
[SPEAKER_03]: And those are suicide doors, my friends, on the back, which is cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not many people implement when they do this at auto shows, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: They just kind of go halfway through.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope they do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of the other stuff that's on here,
[SPEAKER_03]: super cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think too many people are going to have to worry about low hanging branches.
[SPEAKER_03]: The limb risers, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So this kind of is some really interesting things that are a little gimmicky, but also pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: So these are your camera mirrors, but they're also removable.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you they operate as either a flashlight or a camera, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is kind of funky.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got the limb risers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those actually display little smiley faces because throughout the crater, you're going to see this little guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can see him up here on the roof rack.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's called crater man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, a crater man.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's the mascot for the Hyundai crater.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's seeing there on the roof rack, but he's also down here on the towhawk.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's your little crater man.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's also a bottle opener, so you can pop open your bottles with that thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's really important for US clientele.
[SPEAKER_03]: The overall design now, I don't want to start touching it and everything else I'm not Roman.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm touching it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Getting but it looks like a lot of this is actually using real metals, real aluminum, extruded components underneath So it looks like it also has a four wheel independence suspension.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so yes, sorry, then I would guess that it might be adjustable
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what they said is that this is based, the concept that least is based on the ionic five.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's fully electric.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's also pretty small.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's got really big proportions that make it look meeting, but the actual size of the vehicle.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they call it the crater, because a crater is formed by a compact,
[SPEAKER_03]: what?
[SPEAKER_03]: Meteor, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: That goes off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some sort of heavy metal that slams into the earth and create something below it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So a small thing with a big impact.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what this is.
[SPEAKER_02]: They also have like the lights on the roof, which just like the old KCs are customizable so you can have a little smiley to display.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is super cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: So listen, this is still very much a concept, but if moral man's right, if they put something like this in a production, that would be rad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would love it, and they're not slowing down on their electrification.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are mixing up the batch, and this is a prime example of that, and this is the
[SPEAKER_03]: Ionic 6N.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is something that Andre got a chance to drive in Korea and Rather jealous because the ends have proven to be awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: I what am I favorite electric vehicles is still the Ionic 5N I love driving that it's one of the few fun electric cars and this one picks up right where that one left off
[SPEAKER_02]: So, 640 horsepower, dual motor setup, zero to 63.2 seconds, it's got the simulated engines and sounds on the inside.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've actually changed it over the five, so it's got more sound, it's a 6-channel audio versus two in the five, it's got the same seats, same steering wheel, a lot of carryover parts from the five end, but Nathan, this was a little bit lower and a little bit sleeker.
[SPEAKER_03]: They changed the front end design as well on the new sixes, so you have a far sleeker
[SPEAKER_03]: looking a little less portion a little bit more bespoke to Hyundai.
[SPEAKER_03]: They've also all the other dynamics on this vehicle.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am told are actually functional.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's including that ridiculously large rear wing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what they told me is that this is a problem on EVs because wings add downforce, but at the same time, they add air in the range, right exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this makes two and a pound of downforce at 160 miles an hour.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it is functional.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's not going to have that big of an impact.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think on performance.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what do you think of the look?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it too much?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a huge fan of the Ionix 6 design to begin with.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very swoopy and I'm not a swoopy guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I like the 5.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's blocky.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a blocky guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, in this end-library, you're not going to mistake it for anything else.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, and they updated the tail here with this kind of gloss black applique.
[SPEAKER_02]: You get your little pixel design across the rear ear.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're all in pixels.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can really tell.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're big on pixels these days, but look, if you want to come to the LA Auto Show, you'll be able to see hopefully they keep them available to the public, the creator, and the Ionic 6N.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So should we go over to Volkswagen, which is right next door?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they've got a vehicle that you guys actually have been talking quite a bit about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they sure do, so they've got a little bit of everything here at Volkswagen, they've got the Volkswagen Tows, they've got Atlas Cross Sport, they've got the new T1s, so if you want to check that out, watch your step there Nathan comes just fell over.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they also have some other performance offerings, so they've got a full GLIGTI and R facility here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let me look at the track right here and crowns.
[SPEAKER_03]: Didn't slot cars?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_03]: How could this date get any better?
[SPEAKER_03]: Half the TFL stuff would love being right here right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's check out what they got.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bunch of ID buses, including the self-driving one, which has got all sorts of sensors on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, this is... Now, I do want to talk about this Nathan.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is pretty neat.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, oh yeah, the story behind this is awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this bus is called Azul, and you want to kind of explain what happened here Nathan?
[SPEAKER_03]: So we recently had some horrible fires, and what you're looking at here is a restored survivor via Volkswagen.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was brought back to absolute industry standards in terms of its interior and exterior brand-new vehicle from a collector who sadly lost majority of this vehicle in the fires.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so this was kind of like a symbol of hope for a lot of the LA fires because this bus was photographed
[SPEAKER_02]: standing partially burnt but in front of all this devastation and it was like this little blue flower in a sea of devastation So what Volkswagen has done is they actually brought it in and they fully restored it to its former glory Which is kind of a a nice symbol of how the Los Angeles area is rebuilding from that devastation
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and being that I am now an official, uh, Los Angelesian, um, I am thrilled to see this and I'm hoping to see even more of this type of outreach in the future because we need it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what's cool about this is you can actually see the new ID funds next to the old, um, bust that inspired it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's really cool to kind of see that shows this, this, this, this color.
[SPEAKER_03]: thing here that you've got going on between the two-tone.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the fact that they're sitting next to each other because then you can really see what they did with this and honestly speaking I think that two-tone ID buses are the best.
[SPEAKER_03]: Otherwise I think they look a little blocky but I just love that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And yes, Force, who is someone we like in a Meyer and his friend, he has one of these now and the sales of these things, not great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully prices come down battery capacity goes up charging improves all these things need to happen And then hopefully these will sell better because honestly I like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they don't hate it, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and look the good thing about them not selling too well is that on the use market I think there's some deals to be had exactly Let's have a look and see if they've improved the one thing they've needed Nope no copouters So if you're in the backseat of these and you have the children the only way you're gonna get a couple of there's these little side things in the very back That's it
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's infuriating.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a little bit of a mess.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hans, what are you thinking?
[SPEAKER_02]: Nine, this is niche wood?
[SPEAKER_02]: So, maybe let's keep going.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do want to just swing by quickly by the Genesis booth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because this bright orange beast is pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the GV60.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I remember it's called the magma.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so this is a high performance electric crossover and Genesis usually has a bunch of subdued colors for a classic very elegant.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and this thing is nuts.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've driven the regular GV60 and my wife fell in love with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a blue color like this silver blue and it was a great car, but this injects a lot of sport in it and good for them good on them for doing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they have
[SPEAKER_02]: Really moved to another level with the whole sport motif and I really like this wing here I think one of my buddies is filming inside Oh, it's car guy Jared What's going on dude?
[SPEAKER_02]: So or see bells in this thing?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a really high performance trip and piping as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, it's cool It's a cool idea and I Genesis is in a weird spot all right, they because they are very luxurious and they're once again punching about their weight
[SPEAKER_03]: But they still, I think, slept below Mercedes-Benz, below BMW and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, building these specialty faster vehicles, they have to be able to beat everybody who builds an electric vehicle, performance wise, if they're going to put this out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Nathan, let's get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to wrap way around here and stop by GM.
[SPEAKER_02]: You write about the size of this place, Nathan.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gotten pretty big.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is not the largest auto show.
[SPEAKER_03]: That would be Chicago.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are these little boobies?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, no, the free keys.
[SPEAKER_03]: You just grab the bear and then you get a key.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dear, is there, do you know what you want to do with the booboos?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is there a daughter in the booboos?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that like fairies?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's not like fairies.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I don't know then.
[SPEAKER_03]: I honestly don't know what you said.
[SPEAKER_03]: That said, she just went up this stuff animals.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what to tell you, Tom.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's see what she ends up to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is massive haul.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a really big haul.
[SPEAKER_03]: GM is right up there with Ford.
[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, not quite so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: GM actually has a smaller area.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's cheap that has the big area.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Lincoln's got some stuff over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got some new models.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is interesting, Nathan.
[SPEAKER_03]: You actually had a chance to go hands on this guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did briefly.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it was a funky story, Tommy.
[SPEAKER_03]: They brought us to the back lot at Universal Studios, which is some place I used to work at when I was in high school to check out the Bolt.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the brand new bolt.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, it is very similar to the old bolt.
[SPEAKER_03]: They restyled it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It does have a different battery, different battery tech and the whole nine yards.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is a different vehicle.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not using Ultima, either.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's its own thing, according to them.
[SPEAKER_03]: For some reason, I don't know what it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe, which is weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, that's unlocked.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess they just put the seat down the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's capacity.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Nathan.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is fairly similar to the old one though, right, and in pricing they aimed for it to be under 30 grand.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: And let's you get the RS and then you go a little over that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Performance is on par with what it was before.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Range is, I think around 250 miles or even higher.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here we go, pricing from 2995 to LT. 33 for the RS.
[SPEAKER_02]: The bolt was a car.
[SPEAKER_02]: We actually owned one briefly and I loved it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's just the right size It's got the right amount of technology slightly larger than before and I think because this is more like the EUV If you recall that was like the last two years of the bolt production before
[SPEAKER_03]: It's about that size, even though it looks like a regular bulb.
[SPEAKER_03]: Charging is different now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Charging speeds are finally fast.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's the old one charged terribly.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was 50 kilowatt, which was really like 49 on a good day.
[SPEAKER_03]: This one is far better.
[SPEAKER_03]: Altogether, yeah, this one charge 150 kilowatt's on DC fast charging, and it's using NACS test lifestyles.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so overall,
[SPEAKER_03]: The setup on this vehicle is just a far more logical one, but here's the thing to tell me, here's the crazy part.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't expect to see this for very long.
[SPEAKER_03]: Rumor has it that maybe two years and they're going to replace the entire bolt line with an all-new line that may or may not be called bolt.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that was the LT, this is the RS.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, part of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's good noise.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is kind of the sporty trim.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's sport with a little SCH in the tube.
[SPEAKER_02]: Small and say H, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we've got a whole line of electric shavings.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got the blazer.
[SPEAKER_02]: You hate that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We also have a Duramax back there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then over here,
[SPEAKER_02]: is the Corvette stand.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they say, if you want to go hands on with a 06, they've got one here, they've got this, I think the appell's got hands on enough with Corvette.
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got CX concept here, and then this is the one that's kind of the showstopper if you're a Corvette guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Over here is the ZR1X, which is being same, 1000 plus horsepower.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be able to have Hypercar.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, this is just, the numbers are insane and it's irony, the minute Ford comes out with something like the GTD General Motors counters with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so this is a ZR1, but with the E-Ray power train in it, and ZR1 already insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: 1,250 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, God, what the heck?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a true hypercar killer for less than you you spend for a friar McLaren.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's cool to see when in person, you know, a lot of people have been hyping this thing up and seeing how it just nuts a lot of the wings and spats are on this car is pretty unreal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they went to a whole another level with wings.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, look, some people really like this design.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think your dad likes this design.
[SPEAKER_03]: not me but I can give it up to General Motors.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know that everything that we're looking at here is functional, meant to make this super fast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now let's keep going Nathan.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we also have the full lineup of Chevy SUVs here.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got traverse.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got Tahoe.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got suburban.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got equinox here.
[SPEAKER_02]: We also have some trucks and some little guys like if you want to go hands on with the trailblazer which is selling really well right now by the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm not doing really well here's the thing remember we are at the Ford booth well over here They're only showing in their top of the line vehicles.
[SPEAKER_03]: True.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's interesting to say so if you open the wrong hood Mary Barra pops out and scolds you for pointing that out
[SPEAKER_02]: So we just saw that the four guys had a little booth going.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeep is taking it far this, so they've got their cam Jeep here, but they've got a lot more in terms of obstacles.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we've got the handle, we also have this crazy wooden structure.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is gullicking.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got the side slope over here.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have that Nathan.
[SPEAKER_03]: This should be in the backyard at the TFL Ranch to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why it's not Tommy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've heard like every time Jeep needs to set this up, it's well over a million dollars easily.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's not just to set up, it's taking the people who need to set it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it's not just the people driving, it's also the vehicles brought in.
[SPEAKER_03]: All of that stuff has to be taken into account, so they have to rent the space.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're here at the LA Auto Show, check out Camp Jeep.
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll take me for a spin around some cool obstacles.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at the color, I love that green.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm the gladiator.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a really cool green, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm actually out here today, thanks to Volvo, they invited me out, and they have a booth here at the 2025.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it mobility show now, or are they going to have a mobility show?
[SPEAKER_03]: And everybody's calling, like Tokyo, cause it mobility too, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're big mobility.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then just forget that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They said Auto Show, come on, guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Volvo has some cool things that they're showing up here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they've got pretty much their whole lineup as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got XC90, XC60, but this is what I want to show you, Nathan.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the new little guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the EX30 cross country, which I drove the other day, and you just drove probably yesterday.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is our new slightly lifted, small crossover, fully electric, all-wheel drive, and look they even gave it real alteranes.
[SPEAKER_03]: They did indeed.
[SPEAKER_03]: So 422 horsepower, 400, full pounds of torque, that's combined.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it is a rocket.
[SPEAKER_03]: The thing about it is that once you start driving these, like all the EX30s, you have to deal with that center screen.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is where your miles per hour is.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's where your turn signal indication is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everything is up there on the top and honestly it takes your eyes a little bit off the road and for the safety company I'm a little surprised about that, but you do get used to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a really good point Nathan They also have a bunch of weird quirks in this car.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that ejects this does yet project the cup holders It also has a rear window thing that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but you know, it's a Volkswagen thing too, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so you got your two windows which is for your front and you got a cycle to rear to put the mirror windows down.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the interior design is actually very smart.
[SPEAKER_03]: The way they did it, you could pull two bottles in the door.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've already done it.
[SPEAKER_03]: seat I like their seat design yeah they got this weird little square for everything but it works right yeah if you want to adjust things like the mirrors you have to actually go into the center ip or in the center infotainment screen and then the secondary controls on the steering wheel so things like that can be a little trying for some people but once again these are things that you want me very often so it's not a big of a deal you know anything I do have to say look at this top of the map like a topo map on the front end I really appreciate that this thing is weird and different
[SPEAKER_02]: Every car I drive has become so same-seats and the EX30, even though it's got some things that don't like the Windows Switch.
[SPEAKER_02]: It also has some cool things like the integrated sound bar, like the metal door poles feel really nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it feels like a really high quality item, and they're introducing a single motor to the U.S. which is going to start under 39 grams.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right, so it's a 38 in change.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think they have one here, but that one is still plenty powerful.
[SPEAKER_03]: This one's a rocket, but the single motor moves quick and it is meant to compete with vehicles like the leaf and then new what we just saw So Nathan, this is a car you just had for the end of the Nissan booth that this is actually exactly like the one I have Check it look how weird that that green and then purple is
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's got like a color change.
[SPEAKER_03]: Isn't this awesome?
[SPEAKER_03]: This totally harks back to the old 300.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then prior to that, the turbosies and the gold, I just think this is a fabulous looking car.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to be up close to really see it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not into gold or bronze wheels very much, but they really pulled it up here.
[SPEAKER_03]: The interior design is not too bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, hair to addition Z with the manual transmission is the way to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was so much fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: But really, I know a lot of people are screaming about the price and you're right, the price is just way way too much.
[SPEAKER_03]: 57.5 for this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be more.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the good news is that the design of the vehicle, the fact that it has...
[SPEAKER_03]: plenty of power means that you don't need the needs of all you really don't unless you're serious about track and the good news is I hear that Nissan will be introducing a manual transmission on their needs mozi maybe next year so we've got a couple things updated 2026 pathfinder if you want to check that out that'll be here what do you think of the new design timing I'm curious about your take on it I think it's up it's pretty mild in terms of
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, these, these looks like a big rubbed in me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it looks like a rubbed.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we do a pathfinder.
[SPEAKER_03]: We also have over here, Nissan Leaf.
[SPEAKER_03]: That I think is the big deal.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is such a smart design.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh Nathan, probably the most controversial car in the area.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there's Travis from Auto Buyer's Guide.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, they were going to interrupt them.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll wave.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nissan Centro here at New Centro.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I drove one of these recently.
[SPEAKER_03]: All the way down to San Juan Capustrano, which I finally recommend in the drive.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is the SR version.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pretty sharp looking.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I prefer actually this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: The way to see how the grills are different.
[SPEAKER_03]: This one has a painted grille.
[SPEAKER_03]: which is a little less potent than the all black setup here so you know it depends on your taste but in terms of ride now that is something that you guys need to experience because if you're looking for something that has that memory foam seeds which are what are the zero zero gravity seeds zero gravity this has it okay there's something to think about yeah very cool and then this Nathan
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna scoop past everybody here.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the most controversial car here.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the plug-in hybrid road.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or is it outlander?
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, they really didn't bother hiding the fact that it's an outlander this day.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this has got the Mitsubishi engine.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got the Mitsubishi power train.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which is good, by the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a pretty good set up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, charges faster than I think I got but they almost did nothing to the outside design So you still have those crazy Mitsubishi style headlights and running like it's got a different grill It's got the Nissan grill and then on the inside Let's go ahead and poke it open
[SPEAKER_02]: You are going to find the Mitsubishi interior, including the shifter and the old screen.
[SPEAKER_02]: It still gets the old screen from Mitsubishi and then you get your Nissan badge.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of an inception here situation.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is, but I'm going to give Nissan an Mitsubishi some credit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know I'm a Mitsubishi fanboy when it comes to the Montero.
[SPEAKER_03]: That company Mitsubishi said that they're bringing in a whole bunch of new products to the United States soon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Many of which will be off-road capable.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking forward to that.
[SPEAKER_03]: This, now if you think about it, they've been a bunch of other rogues in the past.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've had a rogue sport at the same time as a regular rogue and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you could say that this is another spin-off of the rogue name.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is this a good idea?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I'll sell a few because some people want to stick with the Nissan name and for some reason Don't want the Mitsubishi name.
[SPEAKER_03]: The question is will this cost more than its Mitsubishi cousin?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a big question.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you want to check that out that'll be here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Toyo has got a huge booth but not a lot of news.
[SPEAKER_02]: However, the big thing here, Toyo, is if you want to go hands on with the new RAF4, they have them here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the course best selling car in the USA.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you want to come and experience that before it's at your dealer,
[SPEAKER_03]: If you are a lake here's fan, then you're going to be thrilled with Toyota because they've got something interesting here at Golden Basketball.
[SPEAKER_03]: Each one saw a gold.
[SPEAKER_02]: For taking, you can just take one.
[SPEAKER_03]: You grab one.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: And grab one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, the funny thing is that I've been seeing a lot of this, but nobody's putting up dodger stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Rumor has it.
[SPEAKER_03]: They want some sort of big game.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Allegedly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, allegedly.
[SPEAKER_02]: But check this out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say you're, this is what's cool about auto shows.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say you want to buy a foreigner.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Tier D pro.
[SPEAKER_02]: Teary off road, platinum, only in a two foot radius, all aloft, so you can just go poke around your heart's desire.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know the problem with this tonious?
[SPEAKER_03]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: You?
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: You went to Tokyo?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because you went to Tokyo?
[SPEAKER_03]: And what did you see?
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, oh, the new baby language.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's not going to be here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, come on, you've got to make it happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got to make some phone calls.
[SPEAKER_03]: Please, please.
[SPEAKER_03]: just bring it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We wanted it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're now entering the Stellantis area here at the out of show.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is the Rand Booth.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here at RAM, lots of changes here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we've got the new V8's back in the 1500's.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a little.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got R8 show.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really hope when they bring back the TRX to see it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's going to happen soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no news on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we've got R8 show.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got some full-size stuff here if you want to look at the full-size trucks.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was driving the R8 show through LA traffic.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was about the funniest damn thing you've ever seen.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was it's just it's it's laughing at other cars near it and scaring others and everybody or here Nathan This is a new Cherokee which is very controversial online
[SPEAKER_03]: no comments.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have such a hard time with this vehicle and I'll tell you why, because I know that overseas they've had their own 4xE design plug and hybrid system for a while with G. And they didn't bring that system here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't exactly know why.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then bringing this out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Guys, does this look like it's off-road capable with a nose like that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is not, look, they've got this big thing where they're like, they brought LL cool J out and they said, were the return of, were we're back from, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't call it a comeback.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure that this is the comeback, they're hoping it would be.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, this is not, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, what happened was, this came out shortly after the Wageningar S. Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which,
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Tommy and I both agree it was, yeah, the good news is, standard hybrid makes good power, so it's pretty powerful.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we got the car confections guys here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what's going on?
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to be my podcast for sec?
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to ask you one question.
[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, I have a question too, but it's about drinking age.
[SPEAKER_03]: They actually are old enough to fight you guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, Nathan.
[SPEAKER_03]: What, I just, I'm just asking questions.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's been the highlight of the show for you guys?
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't say the LA weather, come on, we've been getting bashed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, the sunset drive on PCI yesterday was a high weather, that's for sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: We looked at the new pilot, they made the changes they needed to, on that, and the prelude, I think, looks really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you guys think of the reclale?
[SPEAKER_00]: Solid?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the range in the price is going to be a challenge, but it looks great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: If folks want to find your stuff, where you at?
[SPEAKER_02]: car confections on youtube so yeah youtube.com slash car confections yeah well i'm gonna stand here with these guys i'm gonna get high quality videos yeah i'm like us over here oh the hop yeah i'm like people like walking through ours mason and drew they make sure nobody walking through there so check them out yeah not come out see you guys see you guys so yeah Nathan this is um this is a this is a big vehicle for
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a fully electric with 650 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got it, zero to 63.6 seconds, topless and dormless.
[SPEAKER_02]: all wheel drive off road.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now it does come with the doors.
[SPEAKER_03]: We just have to put that out there for a legal disclaimer.
[SPEAKER_03]: The doors you come on the vehicle, but they can come off the vehicle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also you can remove the upper quad section that actually all pops out.
[SPEAKER_03]: The rear section pops out as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: The roof has its own retractable, like large.
[SPEAKER_03]: What did they call that?
[SPEAKER_03]: My sky.
[SPEAKER_03]: My sky, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's so it's getting pretty close to what you could do with a Wrangler.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's kind of a point
[SPEAKER_02]: Wrangler but not a wrangler but this is a full independent suspension vehicle fully electric I mean the big problem for me Nathan starts it over $65,000 and the range on this Moab is just 230 miles So I think that's going to be a tough sell for some of some of the G people out there But the good news is it does have a rear locking differential mechanical lockers understand 33 inch tall offer tires and the doors do fully come off as you can see in this one So there's a lot to like
[SPEAKER_03]: There is a lot to like, especially for EV fans, and I know that the unit of market is slowing down, but it's not dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know some people say that, just to get clicks.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not dead at all, especially out here in LA.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the question is, of course, the range.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I think that there's a way to fix that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that they have to get some gas tanks and a generator, and then they put it back there, and then you got power on the trail.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a good idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's another one.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not gonna make it out there because it's a sort of pouring rain, but Scout is here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Scout is here, but they don't have anything new to show us, and we've already shown everything before.
[SPEAKER_03]: But honestly, this is an idea, and this has been a couple of years in the brewing, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we've been hearing about this what two, three years now?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and finally, we now just now get to see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, there's a lot of like about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that they maintain that open air freedom.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't love the price for the range.
[SPEAKER_03]: You wanna take a look at the interior real quick?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, nobody is there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pop my head in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see what we got.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm rooting in the shot of many people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sorry about that guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: How are you?
[SPEAKER_03]: OK, cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here you can see that square, squircle steering wheel.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does have different.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm a squiggle.
[SPEAKER_03]: A squiggle?
[SPEAKER_03]: Squiggle, yeah, it's like a big old-it-squared squiggle.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a comedian who put that in.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's trail rated.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it has that whole little badge right there, which means that it should be able to handle the Rubicon Trail without destroying itself.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was initially the point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Massive screens here, which is cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, as we kind of make a way to the back here, comes with your own tech guy, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll make sure that you can get into things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, these are free production prototypes here, Nathan.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are indeed, but look in the back here.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the storage area is a little compromised if you look how high it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: I noticed that before.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that a Jeep thing?
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no solid axle going through the back here, so it's battery thing Yeah, that's a good point.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do like this kind of coffee colored interior.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really nice Yeah, and I do like I said I like that one touch My sky-talk so there's there's some cool stuff here, Nate.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is indeed and another thing to point out is that You know, this is definitely aiming towards a premium audience and it's usually and I believe the STLA large platform.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you got it
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, so those are now somewhat proven because they've been putting them on other vehicles, which, you know, have had some teeth and issues, but now they're starting to work better.
[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully by the time this hits show them floors, it will be okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: We also have the new grand wagon near here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you want to check that out along here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wagoners dead now.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just grand wagon right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: new friend and design yeah which I think it looks really good in personal life I think did this it separates it from looking too much like some of the other vehicles out there because I used to think that this looked too much like a grand Cherokee right I think this looks better
[SPEAKER_02]: Well folks, let us know what you guys think of the L.A. show this year, a little bit of everything here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: The brands that are missing are a lot of the German luxury brands.
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of them, there is a Porsche pavilion downstairs, but it is done by a particular odd, sorry, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a dealer, a
[SPEAKER_03]: And here we go, whoo, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: 33.
[SPEAKER_03]: Beautiful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, my very favorite car Tommy Ever was, it was built between 1968 and 1971 or two.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the Alfa Romeo Tepo 33st of Adele, and this is sort of the grandchild of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is just extraordinary.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Every angle of this thing is just, hmm, but yeah, this is as close as we're going to get.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guarantee it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They also have Tonala here, Julia Dodges here.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to see the new Charger Six pack, yeah, I know what you had a chance to play with.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if you want to hop in a Durango, that's here too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fiat's here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hoop.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, a lot of the Americans are here, but like I said, Mercedes-BeeMW, if you want to see those, you're going to have to go elsewhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sorry about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not doing too many auto shows in general.
[SPEAKER_02]: So guys, let us know what you think of the show this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: This has been Tommy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Nathan.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you in the next podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get a snack.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for watching.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't read it right there, Chief.