WEBVTT 00:00.031 --> 00:29.042 [SPEAKER_00]: On Sinatra Swing to Brando Stage Maryland's Grace to JFK's A It's Johnny Russo Hollywood's own The teeny Raymond secrets are showing It's the Hollywood gunfire Welcome everybody Tonight's show 00:29.343 --> 00:31.426 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a very interesting show. 00:31.446 --> 00:43.582 [SPEAKER_00]: First, I have to introduce my co-host, I'm so excited to get into this with these other people, but the most important person, a Jeannie Raymond. 00:46.066 --> 00:50.992 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so excited to talk about our subject here today. 00:51.052 --> 00:53.055 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so exciting. 00:53.592 --> 01:02.405 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, it started with Malm and Role on my last weekend with her, not that I was with her on a weekend by myself. 01:02.906 --> 01:12.100 [SPEAKER_00]: We were there on business and then when she was told what to do and I don't wanna be redundant because I think we spoke about this other times for other reasons. 01:13.142 --> 01:15.465 [SPEAKER_00]: But when we left Cal Niva, 01:16.407 --> 01:40.322 [SPEAKER_00]: I left that Monday morning the fly back to New York and I told Cousella what went on that she refused to sleep with Bobby Kennedy and the reason why she had an abortion six weeks prior and we knew nothing about that and she wanted nothing to do with the Kennedy's any longer, which I could understand, but 01:42.091 --> 01:47.098 [SPEAKER_00]: when he heard the story, Costello, he said they're gonna kill her. 01:47.999 --> 01:50.662 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that they'd kill her, she's the biggest movie star in the world. 01:51.724 --> 01:53.546 [SPEAKER_00]: He's just believed me, I'm telling you. 01:54.587 --> 01:57.231 [SPEAKER_00]: And sure enough, that Thursday she was dead. 01:57.952 --> 01:58.953 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was that quick. 01:58.993 --> 02:00.415 [SPEAKER_01]: So tell everyone where you were. 02:00.695 --> 02:04.560 [SPEAKER_01]: I know where you were, but for people who don't know that are just doing it. 02:04.701 --> 02:09.567 [SPEAKER_00]: Cal Niva is a resort on the California Nevada border. 02:10.154 --> 02:12.177 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was built deliberately that way. 02:12.598 --> 02:15.683 [SPEAKER_00]: Frank or Cel, Frank or Cel, Frank should not own the piece of it. 02:16.464 --> 02:18.327 [SPEAKER_00]: Sam, Giancana from Chicago. 02:19.048 --> 02:20.350 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was a mobbed up place. 02:21.011 --> 02:27.762 [SPEAKER_00]: But they built it so that the mob can come without breaking the laws of Nevada. 02:28.463 --> 02:35.014 [SPEAKER_00]: See, if you are a felon or an organized crime member, known, you can't go to casinos. 02:35.551 --> 02:41.336 [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, the casino operator will lose his license if he catered to you. 02:42.558 --> 02:44.319 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was very restricted license. 02:44.880 --> 02:45.240 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 02:45.260 --> 02:46.281 [SPEAKER_01]: And did they have a list? 02:46.301 --> 02:47.162 [SPEAKER_01]: What did they call that? 02:47.302 --> 02:49.964 [SPEAKER_01]: Did they have some sort of a... Well, they had the black list. 02:50.024 --> 02:50.805 [SPEAKER_01]: The black list. 02:50.825 --> 02:51.366 [SPEAKER_01]: There we go. 02:51.686 --> 02:53.067 [SPEAKER_00]: And everybody had that book. 02:54.088 --> 02:58.793 [SPEAKER_00]: And you had the book and the state gave it to you when you got your license. 02:59.934 --> 03:02.436 [SPEAKER_00]: We're not allowed to host these people. 03:04.002 --> 03:09.088 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you jeopardize it, it's on you and you collusioned license. 03:09.489 --> 03:11.972 [SPEAKER_00]: So now you have the casino where you can't gamble in. 03:13.133 --> 03:15.296 [SPEAKER_00]: Long story short, nobody wanted that. 03:15.796 --> 03:17.899 [SPEAKER_00]: They were very creative in what they did. 03:18.540 --> 03:23.125 [SPEAKER_00]: They created Cal Niva on the California Nevada border. 03:23.145 --> 03:25.288 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why it's called Cal Niva. 03:26.389 --> 03:31.275 [SPEAKER_00]: And the mob people stood on the California bungalows. 03:31.643 --> 03:39.471 [SPEAKER_00]: anybody else could stay in the hotel, but when the guys wanted to go to the casinos, there was just walking in the demo. 03:40.312 --> 03:44.797 [SPEAKER_00]: So nobody knew how to got there, nobody was responsible, and it worked very well. 03:45.978 --> 03:48.540 [SPEAKER_01]: It was proudly about a hotel, or... 03:48.560 --> 03:50.983 [SPEAKER_00]: It was the hotel, I remember the whole reason. 03:51.003 --> 03:51.323 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, okay. 03:51.343 --> 03:53.686 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember it, you know, it was big, big deal. 03:54.547 --> 04:00.773 [SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, I was there to be the eyes and ears as I was so many years for Castello. 04:01.242 --> 04:06.473 [SPEAKER_00]: And unbeknownst to me, I didn't know what they wanted Maryland to do. 04:07.235 --> 04:08.357 [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't my business. 04:08.838 --> 04:16.534 [SPEAKER_00]: But they wanted to her to sleep with Bobby Kennedy one more time, which I didn't know she was doing that or not. 04:16.574 --> 04:20.803 [SPEAKER_00]: I was friends with her, but I was an on that kind of a level knowing. 04:20.783 --> 04:26.812 [SPEAKER_00]: But with that said, she went crazy and said, she wants nothing to do with the candidates. 04:27.633 --> 04:32.540 [SPEAKER_00]: And she's going to the press and going to disclose them for the phone these they are. 04:33.862 --> 04:43.076 [SPEAKER_00]: We put the girl Catholics and they're both married and so along so we shot, which is not the emphasis of tonight's show. 04:43.817 --> 04:47.382 [SPEAKER_00]: The emphasis of this tonight's show are these two women. 04:48.256 --> 04:54.503 [SPEAKER_00]: which I'm still an advocate of changing their debt certificates. 04:54.523 --> 04:59.429 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm almost as Mao and his done, and I was working on Dorothy Kill gallons. 05:00.390 --> 05:06.577 [SPEAKER_00]: And as you mentioned, Frank Holden and was Jim Holden. 05:07.738 --> 05:09.921 [SPEAKER_01]: Frank Holden, excuse me, Robert Holden. 05:10.501 --> 05:16.508 [SPEAKER_00]: Robert Holden, yeah, Robert Holden and lighted me that why they couldn't get the cases, 05:17.095 --> 05:17.796 [SPEAKER_00]: reopened. 05:18.397 --> 05:21.881 [SPEAKER_00]: They had nobody to prosecute everybody. 05:24.385 --> 05:29.211 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm still now want, and I'm adamant about it. 05:29.251 --> 05:29.952 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll get it done. 05:30.914 --> 05:34.538 [SPEAKER_00]: I want Mount Monroe and are the kill gallons. 05:35.319 --> 05:44.672 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a 05:44.787 --> 05:47.249 [SPEAKER_00]: and they didn't, they were murdered. 05:48.050 --> 05:52.795 [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to say, by homicide, and leave their legacy clean. 05:53.355 --> 05:53.716 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 05:54.416 --> 06:05.687 [SPEAKER_00]: With that, tonight's show is a dedication on the anniversary of Dorothy Kilgallon's 60 years of death. 06:07.509 --> 06:13.815 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's so bizarre how all of us individuals 06:14.487 --> 06:23.056 [SPEAKER_00]: because Frank Morano had a talk radio show on ABC radio. 06:24.197 --> 06:33.506 [SPEAKER_00]: And he talked about this and Fred is at my home. 06:33.707 --> 06:36.389 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Frank Morino or Robert Holden. 06:36.409 --> 06:37.951 [SPEAKER_00]: Robert Holden, Robert Holden. 06:37.971 --> 06:41.895 [SPEAKER_00]: Robert Holden was introduced to this that way. 06:43.799 --> 06:45.302 [SPEAKER_00]: and he got interested in it. 06:46.043 --> 06:46.504 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow. 06:47.125 --> 06:57.805 [SPEAKER_00]: And then Frank Moreno, this is like, who's on first, Frank Moreno left the radio show and he became a councilman also. 06:58.827 --> 06:59.648 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow. 06:59.932 --> 07:01.875 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, his name is the council member. 07:01.955 --> 07:03.778 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know about the radio show. 07:04.098 --> 07:05.560 [SPEAKER_00]: He was a radio host for a long time. 07:06.121 --> 07:06.762 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow. 07:06.782 --> 07:10.087 [SPEAKER_00]: And the show was after midnight on ABC radio. 07:10.207 --> 07:11.389 [SPEAKER_00]: I've done it in numerous times. 07:11.930 --> 07:12.070 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 07:12.350 --> 07:14.974 [SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, this is where we are now. 07:15.756 --> 07:28.875 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a week ago, we dedicated a street, which I would like Mike, while we're talking about that, to show the 07:29.311 --> 07:34.256 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's the corner of 68th and pork Avenue, which is a big thing to get done. 07:35.097 --> 07:35.237 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 07:36.739 --> 07:45.929 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was one of the people, because I was the only person, and I found out that day, there was nobody in their audience. 07:46.570 --> 07:49.553 [SPEAKER_00]: And we had a big congregation show up. 07:51.435 --> 07:55.960 [SPEAKER_00]: Even the mock shores and everybody else that were there, they never met her. 07:57.644 --> 08:12.624 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, that's incredible because I don't know how old that Robert Holden was, but I know these are people that, I mean, how old were you back at that time when Marilyn died you remember? 08:13.084 --> 08:24.259 [SPEAKER_00]: I was in my teens, I was like, when she died, I was 18, nobody knew, but like, so not all these people, they've all passed, obviously. 08:24.442 --> 08:24.843 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 08:25.183 --> 08:35.478 [SPEAKER_00]: Where as we're pointing out, we're the only advocates, and here these are new people that now want this justified. 08:36.279 --> 08:36.620 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 08:37.181 --> 08:43.530 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's a lot of people on Facebook that our big supporter still of Dorothy Caldallon. 08:43.747 --> 08:44.388 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know. 08:44.568 --> 08:46.331 [SPEAKER_00]: And we're counting on all of them. 08:46.952 --> 08:51.318 [SPEAKER_00]: And Councilman Holden, he's now the torchbara. 08:51.558 --> 08:58.488 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this guy's really like he, he went to the district attorney and the district attorney says, great. 08:58.508 --> 08:59.650 [SPEAKER_00]: And they were gonna look into it. 09:00.171 --> 09:07.862 [SPEAKER_00]: But then when they looked into it, they realized if they opened a colon case on this, who were you gonna prosecute? 09:08.443 --> 09:12.268 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, no one left to indict for it because they wouldn't have done it. 09:13.025 --> 09:14.446 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're at a dead end there. 09:14.506 --> 09:20.952 [SPEAKER_00]: But now that we have the street dedicated fortunately, I have Maulman Rose House now sanctioned. 09:22.053 --> 09:24.355 [SPEAKER_00]: I was supposed to be turned down. 09:25.036 --> 09:30.140 [SPEAKER_00]: They can't tear it down until we move it and we're making plans in moving that. 09:30.541 --> 09:32.743 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to move it to Burbank. 09:32.763 --> 09:42.171 [SPEAKER_00]: The Burbank studios where she used to be in an orphanage there at the age of 12. 09:43.197 --> 09:45.941 [SPEAKER_00]: We were both at the age of 12, I was in Belmu. 09:45.961 --> 09:52.530 [SPEAKER_00]: She was in an orphanage, and as we got to be friends, we realized the parallels, you know. 09:52.550 --> 10:03.405 [SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, she used to look at the Warner Brothers sign and we'd old movie magazines that I want to be a movie star. 10:03.425 --> 10:10.875 [SPEAKER_00]: So we were driven by separate regions, but we published what we wanted to do. 10:11.311 --> 10:15.657 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, you both set their in-dream to what, what you wanted your lives to be. 10:15.697 --> 10:29.434 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, but as we know, both these women, buy the same assassin, were killed. 10:31.497 --> 10:32.138 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that wild? 10:33.279 --> 10:34.161 [SPEAKER_01]: That's very wild. 10:34.621 --> 10:37.605 [SPEAKER_00]: My own Monroe was killed three years prior to her. 10:38.868 --> 10:49.764 [SPEAKER_00]: And then, Darth Kilgallon, who is a great investigator reporter, I mean, she was known plus she was known for what's my line, and she was brilliant. 10:50.365 --> 11:03.964 [SPEAKER_00]: And I met her so many, many times, because she used to come into the copa, as did Walt Winshell, as did all the colonists, because at Costello, one of them there, they never got a check. 11:04.433 --> 11:10.063 [SPEAKER_00]: because they put it in a column and talk about what celebrities, what the copal has tonight. 11:10.905 --> 11:22.666 [SPEAKER_00]: And I used to sit and talk to her once she found out that I knew Malin and that's Custello said, talk to them if you want. 11:23.608 --> 11:26.914 [SPEAKER_00]: And she was like a mother character to me. 11:27.772 --> 11:33.779 [SPEAKER_00]: because, you know, I, as you know, and most of the audience knows, I was living at home, I wasn't doing any of that. 11:34.440 --> 11:39.987 [SPEAKER_00]: And when I spoke to her, sometimes she'd reach over to take my home, my hand. 11:40.888 --> 11:53.603 [SPEAKER_00]: And just, you know, because she could say I was cheering up, but because I knew Malram was killed by the candidates, because she was gonna go public. 11:53.624 --> 11:55.686 [SPEAKER_00]: And Dorothy Kilgallon, 11:56.037 --> 12:03.684 [SPEAKER_00]: was interviewing people and getting more material to go and ride a whole article on what was going on. 12:04.484 --> 12:04.865 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 12:05.405 --> 12:21.439 [SPEAKER_00]: And the wildest thing there, talk about incidents and situations when I was 15 on the streets in New York, I got caught by a true officer. 12:22.880 --> 12:23.061 [SPEAKER_00]: I had to. 12:23.081 --> 12:24.762 [SPEAKER_00]: And he stopped me on the street, 12:25.315 --> 12:26.497 [SPEAKER_00]: And he said, how old are you? 12:26.617 --> 12:34.088 [SPEAKER_00]: And I said, on 15 and a half, he's when you could be 16, I said, in December, he's going to go to school. 12:34.428 --> 12:35.169 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go to school. 12:35.190 --> 12:36.011 [SPEAKER_00]: He gave me a ticket. 12:36.431 --> 12:37.633 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even know what the ticket was. 12:38.174 --> 12:39.376 [SPEAKER_00]: I gave it to Costello. 12:40.497 --> 12:41.899 [SPEAKER_00]: And Costello saw our fixer. 12:41.979 --> 12:42.460 [SPEAKER_00]: And he did. 12:44.503 --> 12:46.987 [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, so I went to his beauty school. 12:47.187 --> 12:52.555 [SPEAKER_00]: And fortunately, I did go because one morning, 12:53.227 --> 12:59.196 [SPEAKER_00]: who Kenneth was viralmen rose, hairdresser, Jackie Kennedy's hairdresser. 12:59.596 --> 13:06.747 [SPEAKER_00]: He was the premium hairdresser, and Marx and Clea was a makeup and colorist person. 13:06.767 --> 13:09.791 [SPEAKER_00]: Now when they said they were partners, I think they were partners in a business. 13:09.812 --> 13:12.876 [SPEAKER_00]: They were lovers, but that's what they called each other, were partners. 13:13.277 --> 13:16.922 [SPEAKER_00]: So me being naive, I didn't know it there, well, I thought later. 13:18.016 --> 13:28.950 [SPEAKER_00]: But the wildest thing have to all these years, and Mowland instead, you will never believe who found out at the Kilgallon's body. 13:31.253 --> 13:34.657 [SPEAKER_00]: Her locks and clans. 13:34.677 --> 13:35.238 [SPEAKER_00]: Holy cow. 13:35.959 --> 13:44.850 [SPEAKER_00]: He used to go to our Brownstone, which was on 68th Street every morning to do a hair and makeup for the TV show. 13:45.623 --> 13:54.235 [SPEAKER_00]: So he arrived, she wasn't in her bedroom with two strange, and I knew her well enough that she was, you know, she'd never sleep in the guest room. 13:54.615 --> 14:00.643 [SPEAKER_00]: They found the guest room in the same situation as Malin was. 14:01.304 --> 14:07.673 [SPEAKER_00]: They dressed her pillow with barbituids and all of that and said, she overdosed. 14:07.693 --> 14:11.698 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Darth Kilgalin was not depressed. 14:11.847 --> 14:26.059 [SPEAKER_00]: Noah's mowing at that time, but mowing always took something, but the parallels of the story are so strange when you think about all the people now who are involved now with it. 14:27.895 --> 14:31.941 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I'm so, you know, adamant about it. 14:32.422 --> 14:38.250 [SPEAKER_00]: And I want to share all this, and you're going to see the street being named, her brownstone is amazing. 14:38.851 --> 14:41.535 [SPEAKER_00]: They just sold it again for 22 million. 14:41.936 --> 14:48.225 [SPEAKER_00]: Just imagine the kind of house this was on 4.50, 68 street. 14:48.545 --> 14:50.308 [SPEAKER_00]: No 45, 68 street. 14:51.233 --> 15:02.083 [SPEAKER_00]: And I walked to home so many times they were in night cause cause so I would say walk off was only seven blocks up from the, you know, the copa, how are we doing the time we need a commercial? 15:02.103 --> 15:03.104 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got just a minute. 15:03.164 --> 15:06.126 [SPEAKER_01]: So let me ask you this, um, 68 street. 15:06.186 --> 15:09.849 [SPEAKER_01]: That's where that's where her street is dedicated, right? 15:10.190 --> 15:10.810 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 15:10.850 --> 15:12.592 [SPEAKER_01]: 68 can park, that's where she used to live. 15:13.012 --> 15:13.753 [SPEAKER_00]: That's where she lived. 15:14.213 --> 15:14.874 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I love that. 15:15.234 --> 15:16.295 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that that? 15:16.315 --> 15:16.656 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 15:16.716 --> 15:20.599 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the first was supposed to be on some other street. 15:21.575 --> 15:29.683 [SPEAKER_00]: And then let us know that we're going to do it on 68th and Lexington, but Lexington is just a one-way street. 15:30.964 --> 15:31.085 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh. 15:31.285 --> 15:39.733 [SPEAKER_00]: So we all suggest why not park Avenue, which is a six-lane highway with a eight-room in the middle and such a best better. 15:39.753 --> 15:45.399 [SPEAKER_00]: And the turnout that morning we could have never had it on Madison. 15:46.100 --> 15:46.600 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really? 15:46.660 --> 15:46.960 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 15:47.061 --> 15:47.401 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no. 15:47.561 --> 15:49.523 [SPEAKER_00]: We have to close down Madison. 15:50.195 --> 15:56.703 [SPEAKER_00]: Fortunately, we had the sidewalks and the extra lanes of Park Avenue to accommodate everybody. 15:57.924 --> 15:58.785 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's awesome. 15:58.825 --> 16:12.422 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, you know, so we do need to take a quick break but when we come back, if you know and you probably do, I wanna know how Maryland and Dorothy became friends. 16:13.246 --> 16:15.289 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's take a quick break back. 16:15.669 --> 16:16.651 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's take a break. 16:16.671 --> 16:20.136 [SPEAKER_00]: And I want to take a break with what's behind me. 16:21.518 --> 16:25.423 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm very proud that's the cover of my new book. 16:26.725 --> 16:28.668 [SPEAKER_00]: It comes out November 25th. 16:28.688 --> 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19:01.471 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget, Dorothy Kilgallon was an investigative reporter. 19:01.832 --> 19:04.916 [SPEAKER_00]: She was following this unbeknownst to many people. 19:06.178 --> 19:09.082 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I've seen pictures of Dorothy and Marilyn together. 19:09.823 --> 19:13.308 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it was just as an event, not necessarily friendly. 19:13.689 --> 19:15.912 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's a lot of, I'm sure she's to come to the copa. 19:16.453 --> 19:17.434 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay. 19:17.454 --> 19:18.596 [SPEAKER_00]: She was living in New York. 19:18.636 --> 19:21.340 [SPEAKER_00]: They knew each other, but not under these pretends. 19:21.360 --> 19:22.181 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, all right. 19:23.122 --> 19:23.723 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow. 19:23.763 --> 19:25.185 [SPEAKER_00]: The Marilyn's death. 19:25.857 --> 19:40.579 [SPEAKER_00]: that she got involved and realized she was killed by the same assassin, and then she found dead under the same process. 19:41.140 --> 19:42.021 [SPEAKER_00]: She used later. 19:42.081 --> 19:43.323 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 19:43.624 --> 19:45.807 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's crazy because 19:46.057 --> 20:13.363 [SPEAKER_01]: with Marilyn, there's, I mean, I know there's people that still think, oh, she overdosed and and other people are saying, no, of course she was assassinated, but with Dorothy, I don't know, I don't know at the time if people bought into the fact that she died of an overdose, 20:13.664 --> 20:18.770 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anybody thinks she accidentally overdosed. 20:18.790 --> 20:26.680 [SPEAKER_01]: It seems to me that everybody thought with her that it was a plant that she was murdered. 20:27.161 --> 20:32.828 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the thing, the new people, again, she's dead 60 years. 20:33.109 --> 20:33.449 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 20:33.930 --> 20:35.892 [SPEAKER_00]: So her younger followers, 20:36.007 --> 20:41.735 [SPEAKER_00]: when they read, or anybody reads, she died of babbits and rovidos. 20:42.416 --> 20:44.600 [SPEAKER_00]: It already tarnishes our image on Ford. 20:44.620 --> 20:46.002 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 20:46.022 --> 20:48.405 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, Marilyn did take drugs. 20:48.465 --> 20:49.827 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to do that. 20:49.848 --> 20:52.632 [SPEAKER_00]: The world knew that, but she didn't die from them. 20:53.233 --> 20:54.014 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 20:54.034 --> 20:56.277 [SPEAKER_00]: That was the assassin. 20:56.392 --> 20:57.193 [SPEAKER_00]: who used that. 20:57.654 --> 21:01.721 [SPEAKER_00]: And they were dying of which will never be able to prove the sea there. 21:02.001 --> 21:11.798 [SPEAKER_00]: You could assume each body, the way they died, they died of an injection in the field being organ in the groin. 21:11.918 --> 21:13.000 [SPEAKER_00]: We all have one. 21:14.009 --> 21:20.146 [SPEAKER_00]: and all you do is pump oxygen in it and create an ameurism and you die. 21:21.028 --> 21:26.483 [SPEAKER_00]: So you consume your body, mowing as again, you could assume your body. 21:27.593 --> 21:30.377 [SPEAKER_00]: there would be barbiturits and she always took him. 21:30.878 --> 21:31.639 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right. 21:32.020 --> 21:50.749 [SPEAKER_01]: Her, hers would have shown drugs where Dorothy, yeah, it doesn't, I don't know, back when she did die, if you recall, do you recall where people buying the, oh, she drank and took Barbara to it's, or was the, you know, Dorothy. 21:50.797 --> 22:01.819 [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't that involved at that time right I just wondered what the talk of the town was back then because she was kind of controversial because she was kind of a sassy 22:01.951 --> 22:02.572 [SPEAKER_01]: Gritty. 22:02.873 --> 22:06.159 [SPEAKER_00]: In Sanatra Hater, he used to talk to her on stage about it. 22:06.680 --> 22:10.708 [SPEAKER_00]: She had no, you know, the gloves were off with her. 22:11.329 --> 22:11.590 [SPEAKER_00]: You should. 22:11.830 --> 22:12.512 [SPEAKER_00]: Dirty down here. 22:12.552 --> 22:14.596 [SPEAKER_00]: She talked about it and wrote about it. 22:14.896 --> 22:16.780 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why everybody read a column. 22:17.281 --> 22:20.768 [SPEAKER_00]: She, I mean, a column was read by means of people every day. 22:20.808 --> 22:21.609 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 22:21.990 --> 22:24.094 [SPEAKER_00]: This one before social media. 22:24.074 --> 22:24.614 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 22:25.135 --> 22:30.199 [SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that you know, she was, they said the smartest woman on what's my line. 22:31.180 --> 22:39.447 [SPEAKER_00]: And she was responsible for their ratings because people were reading a columns that she had right about the show and vice versa. 22:39.487 --> 22:46.013 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was a win-win, but there's no reason in the world for her to kill a cell. 22:46.573 --> 22:46.914 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 22:47.134 --> 22:48.215 [SPEAKER_00]: She had two sons. 22:48.295 --> 22:49.576 [SPEAKER_00]: She was happily married. 22:50.357 --> 22:53.119 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, 22:53.504 --> 22:54.045 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 22:54.485 --> 22:57.409 [SPEAKER_01]: No, um, yeah, she didn't pull any punches. 22:57.509 --> 23:05.178 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think, um, I don't know, it may be well publicized, but why was Frank Sinatra mad at her? 23:06.000 --> 23:11.887 [SPEAKER_01]: Because he did, he took a lot of shots at her, um, you know, I've read funny quotes. 23:11.907 --> 23:21.739 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're kind of funny just like, well, Frank, you know, 23:22.613 --> 23:24.515 [SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't his way, it was no way. 23:24.555 --> 23:28.298 [SPEAKER_00]: And he had the microphone and he talked a loudest. 23:28.338 --> 23:29.199 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 23:29.379 --> 23:30.860 [SPEAKER_01]: But why was he mad? 23:30.880 --> 23:33.182 [SPEAKER_01]: Had she reported something bad about him? 23:33.202 --> 23:42.710 [SPEAKER_00]: He said, I think this is the thing that started to get him annoyed was the fact when she was talking about him going with that, you know, we used to call her the boy. 23:42.730 --> 23:44.812 [SPEAKER_00]: Me, a pharaoh? 23:44.992 --> 23:45.993 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, oh my God. 23:46.554 --> 23:47.675 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't understand it. 23:47.715 --> 23:51.658 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and heaven, I talked, you know, 23:51.757 --> 23:53.179 [SPEAKER_00]: This is crazy. 23:53.699 --> 23:55.502 [SPEAKER_00]: When he got married, he moved on my block. 23:56.062 --> 23:56.843 [SPEAKER_00]: Five doors up. 23:57.824 --> 23:58.425 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow. 23:58.445 --> 24:02.190 [SPEAKER_00]: And every time he had a fight, he'd be down my building, ringing a bell. 24:02.751 --> 24:04.973 [SPEAKER_00]: And he had come up and get drunk all night, and sweep on the couch. 24:05.714 --> 24:06.175 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Jesus. 24:06.796 --> 24:08.918 [SPEAKER_01]: No, he was very controlling, right? 24:09.098 --> 24:10.580 [SPEAKER_01]: She didn't want him to do anything. 24:11.682 --> 24:12.262 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no. 24:12.783 --> 24:14.125 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, she wanted him out. 24:14.665 --> 24:16.027 [SPEAKER_00]: They both were in the same way. 24:16.047 --> 24:17.088 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 24:17.108 --> 24:18.710 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they were jealous of. 24:18.730 --> 24:20.392 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's crazy. 24:20.512 --> 24:20.953 [SPEAKER_01]: That's funny. 24:21.254 --> 24:33.854 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, so Dorothy Kilgallon, it's funny because I do like the fact that them naming this street now is bringing Lucy was and bring, would you say? 24:34.415 --> 24:35.697 [SPEAKER_00]: She's getting more recognized. 24:35.717 --> 24:36.078 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 24:36.218 --> 24:36.578 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 24:36.699 --> 24:38.882 [SPEAKER_01]: People are starting to learn who she was. 24:39.543 --> 24:41.606 [SPEAKER_00]: And even our audience, I think, should look her up. 24:42.308 --> 24:43.870 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely. 24:44.491 --> 24:48.637 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she was a pioneer as a female journalist. 24:49.018 --> 24:51.001 [SPEAKER_00]: No woman was doing what she was doing. 24:51.541 --> 24:52.022 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 24:52.042 --> 24:53.244 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that in itself. 24:53.805 --> 25:01.756 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when people, and I've always been, you know, advocate to, and I've been to subject to it. 25:01.816 --> 25:06.263 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was, I would remember when I was a camp, and I'll crew people would be to me. 25:08.150 --> 25:11.335 [SPEAKER_00]: People basically look for a negative. 25:12.016 --> 25:14.380 [SPEAKER_00]: Serves people to pick on you with. 25:15.462 --> 25:17.766 [SPEAKER_00]: And you got to have strong shoulders to bear that. 25:18.186 --> 25:25.258 [SPEAKER_00]: So I could understand, you know, what their abuse was from so many different directions. 25:26.700 --> 25:30.566 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's a guard of the kill gown pulled out punches. 25:30.947 --> 25:34.413 [SPEAKER_00]: She went after the she did care with Frank Sinatra once. 25:34.433 --> 25:35.254 [SPEAKER_00]: She really did. 25:36.196 --> 25:45.927 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I know she covered a lot of trials and the major cases that she reported on was the Lindbergh baby. 25:46.447 --> 25:48.609 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, yeah, she said to trial every day. 25:48.630 --> 25:51.433 [SPEAKER_00]: And that was very influential. 25:52.013 --> 25:52.334 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 25:53.415 --> 26:00.162 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the thing, I remember, you know, I've heard these stories, but there was one picture that I saw there was, 26:00.530 --> 26:15.510 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, all a group of men, and I'm not sure if that was, um, during the Jeff Ruby era or where that was exactly, but there were all men and then Dorothy sitting right in the middle of them as a reporter. 26:16.091 --> 26:17.613 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that was in the court. 26:17.633 --> 26:18.554 [SPEAKER_00]: That was in the courtroom. 26:18.935 --> 26:19.255 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 26:19.596 --> 26:21.519 [SPEAKER_00]: They all went into the picture of it. 26:21.999 --> 26:22.700 [SPEAKER_00]: I've heard that. 26:23.321 --> 26:28.528 [SPEAKER_00]: The powerful she was, even the judge 26:28.880 --> 26:33.426 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, she was smart on top of everything else. 26:33.526 --> 26:38.293 [SPEAKER_01]: She was investigative and smart as a whip. 26:38.313 --> 26:43.139 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I did watch a few of episodes of What's My Line. 26:44.281 --> 26:52.812 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's darling, cute lady, cute, very cute, sense of humor, very bright lady. 26:53.129 --> 27:02.639 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I, I watched quite a few of them just wanting, you know, now that it's been brought up so much, and I just thought, uh, it's fun to see women like her. 27:02.739 --> 27:03.580 [SPEAKER_01]: She was cute. 27:03.620 --> 27:04.281 [SPEAKER_01]: She was witty. 27:04.361 --> 27:09.426 [SPEAKER_01]: She was, whip smart, you know, and she was so good at guessing though. 27:09.466 --> 27:12.189 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was really fun to watch and get to know her a little bit. 27:12.830 --> 27:17.615 [SPEAKER_00]: The interesting thing, like you're saying, us, even us, bring attention to her now. 27:17.655 --> 27:22.900 [SPEAKER_00]: If there's anybody out there, that's 27:23.200 --> 27:34.676 [SPEAKER_00]: whatever, in any medium, spectrum at all, you should watch this lady, especially that you can, because you could watch what's my line. 27:35.617 --> 27:36.398 [SPEAKER_00]: It's on line. 27:36.418 --> 27:36.598 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 27:36.718 --> 27:46.452 [SPEAKER_00]: It's indicated, and you watched the way she carried herself and answered, I mean, you knew when she sat in that chair, she was the smartest person up there. 27:47.253 --> 27:50.277 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, they said she guessed more than any of them. 27:50.297 --> 27:50.457 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:50.808 --> 28:12.192 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was fun to see that, but they said she was, you know, the one that was one of the most powerful female voices in America when she was doing her reporting people, you know, it was such a new thing to have a woman come on the scene and do this type of job and be so incredible at it. 28:12.475 --> 28:21.366 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, how controversy and orauticles, even the negative ones about psychiatry, she got means and means of followers from that. 28:21.707 --> 28:23.289 [SPEAKER_00]: That's all the newspapers wanted. 28:23.629 --> 28:28.876 [SPEAKER_00]: And the more followers she got, the more newspapers published her column. 28:29.236 --> 28:30.778 [SPEAKER_00]: She picked up all the time, me and her. 28:31.760 --> 28:34.203 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this lady was very smart. 28:34.864 --> 28:39.850 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I'm saying, I think anybody, I'm especially a female that's interesting. 28:41.399 --> 28:45.066 [SPEAKER_00]: becoming on camera or any research. 28:45.567 --> 28:48.232 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a woman you should study for a minute. 28:48.853 --> 28:49.294 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 28:49.314 --> 28:51.758 [SPEAKER_00]: See the way you carry this out, a man. 28:51.959 --> 28:54.303 [SPEAKER_00]: Everything about her, she was a true lady. 28:55.044 --> 28:57.048 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she was very professional. 28:57.288 --> 28:59.813 [SPEAKER_01]: And even though she was, 29:00.215 --> 29:03.919 [SPEAKER_01]: coming at people, you know, she was, she was not afraid. 29:03.959 --> 29:10.746 [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't sound like she was back down to anything, but she carried herself. 29:10.806 --> 29:12.227 [SPEAKER_01]: She's very classy lady. 29:12.507 --> 29:27.943 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I love when I'm looking at all those old videos and I'm looking at the way these people dress and the night club places and all the pictures everybody looked like a million bucks and it's just so different 29:28.480 --> 29:36.409 [SPEAKER_01]: short to be seen, but it's fun to look back at those and everything's black and white, but it's very fun to see. 29:36.449 --> 29:38.771 [SPEAKER_00]: No, that was a different time. 29:38.911 --> 29:39.452 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad. 29:39.532 --> 29:43.196 [SPEAKER_00]: So happy that I had the mentor that I did to Stella. 29:43.937 --> 29:48.022 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he didn't just be wearing a suit to go buy off the bread. 29:48.762 --> 29:49.043 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 29:49.503 --> 29:58.453 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, it's funny to say that I'm trying to think where I was the other day, 29:58.838 --> 30:18.062 [SPEAKER_01]: I can think, oh, I think my mom and I went to eat yesterday after my old grandson's game, we're sitting in the restaurant and I said to my mom, I'm just laughing at the different types of people walking in and there's people in sweats, stretch pants, 30:18.667 --> 30:27.583 [SPEAKER_01]: Some people were dressed nice, but the difference in the way people carry their selves now and present their selves. 30:28.084 --> 30:34.836 [SPEAKER_01]: But I remember what, and this is so many years ago, but we were just going to run to the store. 30:34.816 --> 30:37.959 [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, my kids now are my oldest is 40. 30:38.340 --> 30:44.225 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was trying to just, and I changed and grew something on and we were going to get a gallon of milk. 30:44.626 --> 30:53.134 [SPEAKER_01]: And I walked in and I'm like, oh, and I went and changed my clothes and came back and I looked in the mirror and, I'm like, oh my hell, I got to just get something on. 30:53.154 --> 30:54.155 [SPEAKER_01]: So I looked presentable. 30:54.215 --> 30:58.960 [SPEAKER_01]: The coat of the store and my son said, it's not your clothes that you're hair. 30:59.020 --> 31:00.722 [SPEAKER_01]: Your hair's crazy. 31:00.702 --> 31:15.298 [SPEAKER_01]: It just cracked me up, but I just thought, I'm not going to the store looking too much like a lunatic, you know, but it, I did love seeing all that and how classy everybody was. 31:15.338 --> 31:30.355 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was so cool. 31:30.487 --> 31:35.805 [SPEAKER_00]: The rest of the time, they were working stiffs, working 13, 14 hours a day to survive. 31:36.447 --> 31:36.687 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 31:36.788 --> 31:38.674 [SPEAKER_00]: Care about the end and rest. 31:38.823 --> 31:45.453 [SPEAKER_00]: When I came up town finally to sell ballpoint pens up on 5th Avenue, I thought every day was Sunday. 31:46.054 --> 31:47.015 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was dry. 31:47.316 --> 31:48.658 [SPEAKER_01]: I love that. 31:48.678 --> 31:52.083 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and you dress like a million bucks everywhere you go. 31:52.884 --> 31:54.747 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk it a little bit more. 31:54.787 --> 31:57.331 [SPEAKER_01]: We got a few more minutes before we need to go to a commercial. 31:57.371 --> 32:03.700 [SPEAKER_01]: But we'll have Mike show some of these pictures and of the 32:04.422 --> 32:05.345 [SPEAKER_01]: of that day. 32:05.405 --> 32:07.912 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was so fun to see. 32:07.932 --> 32:09.497 [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, I'm in Utah. 32:09.517 --> 32:14.230 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not there, but I see them unveiling that sign. 32:14.750 --> 32:15.170 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 32:15.190 --> 32:16.592 [SPEAKER_01]: And I look up. 32:16.952 --> 32:18.834 [SPEAKER_00]: They gave me the privilege of me doing it. 32:19.314 --> 32:19.975 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. 32:19.995 --> 32:29.444 [SPEAKER_01]: I was showing my mom were sitting there and I'm like, oh, there's Gianni right there and then all of a sudden they show the video and watch him unveiling the sign. 32:29.524 --> 32:33.028 [SPEAKER_01]: And I said, oh my gosh, Gianni's getting to do the honors. 32:33.508 --> 32:34.950 [SPEAKER_01]: So how did you get involved? 32:34.970 --> 32:36.051 [SPEAKER_01]: How did you get to do this? 32:36.832 --> 32:40.335 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I've been involved as I said, trying to get 32:42.509 --> 32:46.575 [SPEAKER_00]: recognition and getting their death certificate changed. 32:47.396 --> 32:49.940 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, I'm the only one that's a lie that of a matter. 32:51.522 --> 32:59.233 [SPEAKER_00]: So when I talk to the councilmen and all that, I'm the one that could talk about her and they could ask me questions that and reflect on it. 33:00.235 --> 33:03.940 [SPEAKER_00]: So to me, I was a big privilege to me. 33:04.581 --> 33:06.404 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I got to know the lady. 33:07.145 --> 33:11.892 [SPEAKER_00]: I got to know the lady three years 33:12.614 --> 33:20.224 [SPEAKER_00]: She asked Frank Estello to introduce me to her, because she knew I knew Marilyn. 33:20.945 --> 33:26.513 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know she was doing a story to invest in you. 33:26.533 --> 33:27.013 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, okay. 33:27.694 --> 33:39.330 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and one night at the Copa Cavana, Estello said somebody wants to talk to you, come and make, and we went to one of his booths that he keeps for the press and all that, and it was her. 33:40.711 --> 33:44.255 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, she was, I loved talking to the lady. 33:44.275 --> 33:59.692 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she was so smart and her recall dates and, you know, she was asking me questions of people that I knew their name, but I wouldn't say I did because I didn't want to, you know, I'm not, right, what's to do that, you know? 34:00.533 --> 34:03.356 [SPEAKER_00]: But she, she interviewed a lot a lot of people. 34:04.298 --> 34:05.599 [SPEAKER_00]: My name is Becersman, right? 34:05.979 --> 34:08.322 [SPEAKER_00]: Even F. Lee Bailey, major people. 34:08.943 --> 34:14.649 [SPEAKER_01]: She did research for people like F. Lee Baby. 34:16.051 --> 34:17.332 [SPEAKER_00]: Did research on them? 34:19.655 --> 34:24.941 [SPEAKER_00]: She was good at digging up the dirt, huh? 34:25.502 --> 34:25.722 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 34:26.242 --> 34:26.903 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 34:26.923 --> 34:27.664 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what she did. 34:27.724 --> 34:29.846 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what made her who she was. 34:30.187 --> 34:30.607 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 34:31.148 --> 34:31.448 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 34:31.729 --> 34:37.515 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was the City Councilman Robert Holden was now he spoke, right? 34:38.204 --> 34:45.917 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, folk, and so did Frank, because Frank was one of them that kept a story alive also. 34:46.898 --> 34:50.785 [SPEAKER_00]: And two cats have been, got that changed. 34:51.205 --> 34:52.448 [SPEAKER_00]: That street changed. 34:52.468 --> 34:59.419 [SPEAKER_00]: And they went as far as getting the cold case, be a row in New York, reopened. 34:59.787 --> 35:13.699 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, but even the district attorney said, because they were interested in it, but then when they looked into it, they said, we, if we open it, who are we going to prosecute, right, there's no life, right. 35:14.119 --> 35:29.372 [SPEAKER_00]: So they, they, so that was the end of that, they're, they're going to waste, you know, investigative hours and police force doing research on what, right, so, or that's that's crazy. 35:30.145 --> 35:36.635 [SPEAKER_01]: Robert asked you to, so I knew you were going to be there and did you get to speak? 35:37.497 --> 35:40.081 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I talked about. 35:40.101 --> 35:45.269 [SPEAKER_00]: I was only one that could speak as one on one with the person. 35:46.591 --> 35:47.593 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a question. 35:47.613 --> 35:51.659 [SPEAKER_00]: I took questions and to certain things that people wanted to know about her. 35:52.360 --> 35:54.043 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, you know, to me, 35:54.884 --> 35:59.238 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, no one, most people know my background just from reading my books. 36:00.262 --> 36:05.098 [SPEAKER_00]: To me, these are very prestigious things that Paul wants to be a be a bottle. 36:05.740 --> 36:08.168 [SPEAKER_00]: I look at his sometimes, I can't believe I'm bought on this. 36:08.468 --> 36:24.925 [SPEAKER_01]: You know I did I thought that was so cool because I know you were going to be there and you were going to speak and be the one to speak because you personally had met her and and you could give an account of knowing her personally. 36:24.905 --> 36:27.490 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I was just so excited. 36:27.570 --> 36:30.416 [SPEAKER_01]: I did not know that you were going to get to unveil it. 36:30.757 --> 36:33.242 [SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't know that either. 36:33.382 --> 36:34.925 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was so fun. 36:35.466 --> 36:36.308 [SPEAKER_01]: I got to see that. 36:36.468 --> 36:36.869 [SPEAKER_01]: I saw it. 36:36.929 --> 36:41.017 [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's a picture of you that I'm sure Mike's going to put up here holding the sign. 36:41.057 --> 36:42.981 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it a replica of it? 36:43.433 --> 36:45.336 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're giving me one from my house. 36:46.397 --> 36:49.362 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I wonder, I hope that was, I hope so. 36:49.842 --> 36:50.523 [SPEAKER_00]: Good. 36:50.624 --> 36:51.385 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's all good. 36:52.106 --> 36:52.226 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 36:52.506 --> 37:03.923 [SPEAKER_00]: For our audience, and even Mike, as much as time we can fill up Mike, when any of the clips, please share with our audience, or even overlaid over our faces. 37:03.903 --> 37:14.607 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a lady that should be remembered by so many many people and she had an inspiration like I said to a lot of young journalists, male or female. 37:15.428 --> 37:18.435 [SPEAKER_00]: She had a lot to say and all positive. 37:19.428 --> 37:19.828 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 37:19.848 --> 37:28.976 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's fun to see somebody that was so gritty and good at their job, professional, and so smart, and articulate. 37:29.156 --> 37:49.333 [SPEAKER_01]: I really, I loved getting to know her through those things that you've told us about, but then going back and watching videos and stuff of her, I thought it was quite fun to get to know the person, and that's part of what councilman 37:49.668 --> 38:00.331 [SPEAKER_01]: Marino or Marino, Frank Marino, has done is to try and bring awareness to what an incredible person she was in her legacy. 38:00.872 --> 38:06.023 [SPEAKER_00]: But think about who I mean, all the streets in New York. 38:06.104 --> 38:09.589 [SPEAKER_00]: to have a street named after you. 38:10.110 --> 38:12.393 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the legacy that will go on forever. 38:12.954 --> 38:14.837 [SPEAKER_00]: People are going to ask why is that? 38:15.097 --> 38:16.279 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're going to ask why? 38:16.880 --> 38:18.502 [SPEAKER_00]: And she answers that memory. 38:18.723 --> 38:19.484 [SPEAKER_00]: She does. 38:19.504 --> 38:20.225 [SPEAKER_00]: They're that memory. 38:20.986 --> 38:21.807 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's take that. 38:21.827 --> 38:23.570 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we should just say goodbye. 38:23.610 --> 38:25.873 [SPEAKER_00]: The commercials behind me. 38:26.714 --> 38:27.836 [SPEAKER_00]: This is my new book. 38:28.337 --> 38:29.679 [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to be a bestseller. 38:30.460 --> 38:31.501 [SPEAKER_00]: Mafia Secrets. 38:31.662 --> 38:35.267 [SPEAKER_00]: Go on Amazon right now. 38:36.040 --> 38:38.745 [SPEAKER_00]: Get the book, I'll autograph anybody you want. 38:39.486 --> 38:41.550 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for continuing to support us. 38:42.532 --> 38:47.341 [SPEAKER_00]: And Jeannie, to let them know how we can keep building this audience, please. 38:47.441 --> 38:49.265 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right, everybody, please. 38:49.585 --> 38:56.298 [SPEAKER_01]: Please take a minute, rate and review the show, share it with your friends, Giannis, and we've got a backlog, I don't know. 38:56.318 --> 38:58.622 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how many hundreds of, 38:59.075 --> 39:26.567 [SPEAKER_01]: what episode we're up to but we've got a lot of episodes Gianni has a fascinating life and the stories we've got to we've got to hear from being on the podcast so you can go back you can look through those please share it with your friends we're on Instagram basebook call you with godfatherpodcast.com 39:26.817 --> 39:30.626 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, rate, subscribe, like our stuff, share it. 39:30.666 --> 39:31.768 [SPEAKER_01]: We'd sure appreciate it. 39:31.888 --> 39:34.194 [SPEAKER_01]: And definitely go and check out this book. 39:34.274 --> 39:36.238 [SPEAKER_01]: Cause I am so excited about it. 39:36.339 --> 39:37.501 [SPEAKER_01]: I cannot wait. 39:38.123 --> 39:38.844 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 39:38.864 --> 39:39.626 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you all. 39:39.726 --> 39:40.588 [SPEAKER_00]: God bless you all. 39:40.929 --> 39:42.312 [SPEAKER_00]: Have a safe week. 39:42.730 --> 39:43.351 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 39:43.511 --> 39:44.332 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll on your face. 39:44.833 --> 39:45.614 [SPEAKER_00]: It's good. 39:45.814 --> 39:46.995 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm back to work now. 39:47.075 --> 39:48.017 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's wonderful. 39:48.357 --> 39:48.637 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 39:48.658 --> 39:49.418 [SPEAKER_01]: God bless you. 39:49.599 --> 39:50.019 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 39:50.039 --> 39:51.461 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so happy that work is. 39:52.162 --> 39:52.743 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 39:52.923 --> 39:54.545 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so happy we're back. 39:54.605 --> 39:55.967 [SPEAKER_01]: Which whatever it is. 39:56.347 --> 39:58.991 [SPEAKER_00]: Jeannie is living proof the shutdown is over. 39:59.151 --> 39:59.651 [SPEAKER_01]: It's over. 39:59.872 --> 40:00.352 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 40:00.873 --> 40:01.454 [SPEAKER_01]: Back to work. 40:01.814 --> 40:02.195 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 40:02.255 --> 40:02.595 [SPEAKER_01]: Love you. 40:02.775 --> 40:03.036 [SPEAKER_01]: Jeannie. 40:03.056 --> 40:03.717 [SPEAKER_01]: Have a good night. 40:03.777 --> 40:04.718 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much. 40:05.279 --> 40:05.779 [SPEAKER_00]: Bye bye. 40:05.799 --> 40:06.460 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.