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[SPEAKER_05]: That's not a cold open.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I'm just saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, well, you know what I meant.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, wait, one to talk about that stuff you got in the cabinet back there that we.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do I have in the cabinet?
[SPEAKER_02]: You're here.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're compiling tinctures.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're making tinctures.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're making medicine, people.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, actually, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the goal anyways.
[SPEAKER_05]: Where's the plants you promised me?
[SPEAKER_02]: I left him at home this morning.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I sat him out to yesterday this was my thinking.
[SPEAKER_02]: I put him in my parent in the garage.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have to ripold up and then I get her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Token up, I'm not leaving him in the get her because I'll forget him.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you bringing me?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm bringing you red clover flowers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, uh, Dandelion.
[SPEAKER_05]: Which I don't have the book here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Dandelion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm bringing you milk this whole seeds.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I needed those.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I needed to get blackberry root.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't harvest them because I didn't want to climb into the woods on those people.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's property to dig it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's, I didn't want to do that, um, what was the other one I was after yesterday?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Mullen, uh, flowers, there's any more of those leaves off that one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, what do you mean?
[SPEAKER_05]: Don't want to find out?
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't go.
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't drive it onto it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then golden rod flowers is what I was looking for too, but I didn't find any of them on our property.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but I found all the other stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then fleeting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was also collecting fleeting, but all the samples I collected kind of got contaminated by, uh,
[SPEAKER_02]: Cat tail fur, or not cat tail fur, cat tail fluff.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, the plant.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I think that's okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why would that be okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it was all of, no, it was not okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was on every single flower leaf part of the plant, the flea-blaint vein that is.
[SPEAKER_02]: The kids, I was taking the kids out, not mine, but you know, we were doing some foraging.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was teaching them stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: We found, I found some,
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the really mint our jewel weed?
[SPEAKER_02]: I found jewel weed out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, that was pretty awesome.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you got jewelry?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, oh, and the cooped a Gracie, uh, the cooped a grah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I found.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I found some prickly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Goosperios or also as I read online is called swamp gooseberry, but when I looked up swamp gooseberry didn't give me the prickly kind, but in particular was a prickly gooseberry.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if anyone any of you patron on members Google that pretty wild look and they look like a little spiky, I mean they're spiky little gooseberries, but they grow in the wild and I looked up last night.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're rare and endangered in Ohio when you ate them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, too, I won.
[SPEAKER_02]: I gave you another chance.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they're, we got a whole vine back there.
[SPEAKER_05]: So let them seed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to, but I have imagined, uh, I'm going to collect a lot of berries and try to seed them up around the house, maybe.
[SPEAKER_05]: And wait until we build out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: First, yeah, I mean, both.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, if I just get them going, if we can get some plants, because I imagine they, it looked like they grow like raspberries.
[SPEAKER_05]: But you got fleeting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we have flea bang, bang, growing everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's flea bang good for?
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, internal hemorrhaging.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, and external bleeding.
[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't have to do with like epilepsy, too?
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's also the cure for gonorrhea.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, so, hemorrhaging.
[SPEAKER_05]: How would you, so you make a tincture with it?
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, and it's really good for stomach and urinary track hemorrhaging.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if you're, oh wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's one of the few compounds that can stop internal bleeding.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's very interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lee Bain, just a little flower.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure everyone, well, at least if you're in the region where it grows, it's pretty common little flower grows.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's known as the unkillable weed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: and pretty little hours like a little yellow didn't I wasn't a white flower's milk this will is that the one that's the cure for cancer I don't have my book now it's the right clover you were telling the clover is the cure for cancer least that's what you were telling me yesterday yeah that's where the book yes within the book and it looks like it's you know it's unsubstantiated right yeah absolutely but
[SPEAKER_05]: Why haven't I got to put the I got it when you bring those flowers they got to be dehydrated Because some stuff that's why I really like to book is and I don't have it in here I have a couple books all in that stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the one I'm like, I mean, which is awesome because it's not just plants the other ones just plants Where it is like that one has like oyster shells when what they're used for wow, okay, but It has to be dehydrated
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and that tells you that, where you use the root, whether you use it fresh, whether you have to dehydrate it, whether you use the flower.
[SPEAKER_05]: I like mullin, if it went for that book, I wouldn't know this.
[SPEAKER_05]: The seeds are really toxic.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but the flowers and the leaves are safe to consume.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, who would have thought?
[SPEAKER_02]: Which the flowers look good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I almost ate one yesterday.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm all in flower.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't imagine they don't much of a taste.
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably not.
[SPEAKER_02]: If they look like corn pops, like when they're all sitting there together, like the cereal, it just looks like corn pops.
[SPEAKER_02]: I seen that you topped her off and needed it because it looks I think it was it was concentrated I think absorbed a lot of the oils to yeah, you know, I have to press it you have to like stamp it down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, now I see we're learning we're learning to make medicine because you can't rely on big Farming more because they're scamming us and they have been for a long time and you know what
[SPEAKER_02]: take power back in your own hands or do it yourself and we'll teach you how to do it one step at a time as we go because I'm going to try some of this stuff I'm going to try it some of it all of it I'm all of it I'm going to try it when it's when I need to is what I'm saying like the horse like thing it's just horse-reddish and alcohol yeah no yeah that's it yeah heck yeah I'm going to try it
[SPEAKER_02]: That one a little scared of, but oh, it's not going to taste good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's going to taste horrible.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's ever clear.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a tiny five and it tells you which percent alcohol to use for which thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of these stronger stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, 95 a lot of them need 95, but some of them go down all the way down to 30.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: So very depends on what compound you're trying to extract extract from what plant.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, so if you've seen like the planting, all the ones in the cabinet right now are 90, I have a bottle of 50.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because it's you can mix it and I'm just like it's easier not to do the math and just buy the bottles right yeah because you can buy 30 50 65 and 95% the percentages of the book uses okay mostly I haven't seen anything there was a couple that were like 25% and you need to use basically a clear non flavored alcohol so moonshine
[SPEAKER_05]: Good like a moon like a plain moon shine for uh, whichever clear.
[SPEAKER_05]: What isever clear?
[SPEAKER_05]: Is it moonshine?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's corn whiskey Oh gosh, I thought it I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it is.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's moonshine probably 95% I don't think I I didn't buy ever clear.
[SPEAKER_05]: I bought like gym clear or something with the knockoff version of ever clear Okay, because all the same in just 95% and there's no flavor in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just rough uh to consume
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I only ever drink it like the handful of times.
[SPEAKER_05]: I drink it a lot when it used to be mixed into stuff like used to make jungle juice.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Josh, which was in a horse, a horse trough because you just have like three or four bottles of ever clear and then just high sea and fruit until somebody they threw up in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then people are still drinking out of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's disgusting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess the alcohol killer anything, but it's still just.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, there was no bacteria in there.
[SPEAKER_05]: I wasn't drunk enough to drink out of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ball lightning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, ball lightning.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, right about ball lightning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, that phenomenon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Phenomenon, do what you're doing, do what you're doing, do what you're doing, do what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_04]: But now I'm not doing it down now, too.
[SPEAKER_05]: Anyways, ball lighting is an extremely rare and unexplained phenomenon described as luminous, spherical object that vary from the size of a P to being several meters in diameter.
[SPEAKER_05]: Though usually associated with thunderstorms, they have been, you know, observed with not, you know, with thunderstorms locally around.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to say like there's no rare right there's no science on these right I'm going to say 80% of my association with thunderstorms okay whether they are electrical discharge or not we'll talk about later But they do seem to correlate with severe weather phenomena okay
[SPEAKER_05]: which makes sense of anybody know there's that's what lightning is or any of that is there is so much energy I love the understores I love sitting in the back patio and just I love rain like heavy hard rain.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't like floods like not that may be not attractive, but
[SPEAKER_05]: you just the power that's involved like people don't get like people think we're safe people think with like we humans have conquered this earth yeah the elements we have not now now yes they're often associated with thunderstorms but they don't have to be
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, they last considerably longer than normal lightning bolts, which we're talking, you know, hundreds of milliseconds, you know, when we're measuring how long takes light on your strike, your eyes, like you sometimes it's moving slow enough your eye can see it grow, but if you next time anybody's listening to this and you're paying attention to lighting watch it and it looks it grows in chunks.
[SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't really grow in chunks.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's just as fast as your brain can perceive it, exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's like those old flip books for kids.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's how we see lightning.
[SPEAKER_05]: Even though there is, it is like animated where it's constantly moving.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's parts in between, you just can't see it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It just, we can't see it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there's also, it's very distinct from other electrical phenomena.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like St. Elmo's fire in the will of the whits.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Which are completely other phenomena.
[SPEAKER_05]: some 19th century reports described the ball as eventually exploding and leaving behind an odor of sulfur and I just listened to an episode of ball lightning from another podcast and they had to actually it's distractable.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know Nicole patreon member listens and market the one of the main guys is experience ball lighting twice in his life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the one
[SPEAKER_05]: And they seen something like a glowing, not like a figure, but like glowing moving outside the house.
[SPEAKER_05]: The dogs are going nuts, and then an earth-shattering kaboom.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like they thought all the windows in the house were broken and everything.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Later on, he seen ball lightning again.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it was the same thing, but he actually seen the ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are the odds, though, for one person not to just wants to talk?
[SPEAKER_05]: He's not a very big and apparent, like the paranormal or anything like that, but he'd be a what they call it like a slider, and he's having lights explode around him and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't know if those people are magnetically charged.
[SPEAKER_05]: When we talk, remember we've talked about it in the past.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: Dad's, was it dad's mom?
[SPEAKER_05]: So my grandma, a Nat side.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think she maybe won, or maybe was his aunt, where she couldn't change a light bulb.
[SPEAKER_05]: You had to do it for, because they just keep exploding.
[SPEAKER_05]: She couldn't get near certain lights.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, their magnetizers are something like that, and it's just fries them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's an odd phenomena.
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, so yeah, ball lightning, but so this all oftentimes if you've witnessed the whole phenomena, it ends in the ball exploding with the loudest in a ways possible.
[SPEAKER_05]: In descriptions of ball lighting appear in variety of accounts over centuries, then have received some attention from some scientists.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, we'll talk about one of the guys.
[SPEAKER_05]: One of the scientists actually witnessed ball lighting.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's now finally getting a footing where the people are trying to look at it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like understand it or look so rare.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like normal lighting is hard enough to study.
[SPEAKER_05]: But you know when a lightning surms coming and you be like all right, it's somewhere in the next three miles You know, there's gonna be lightning strikes shoot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you got some hands with her little device at two miles Yeah, lightning strike two miles 2.7 miles north of last from here
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: The optical spectrum of what appears to have ball lighting events have been published in January of 2014, include videos at high frame rate that are slowed down.
[SPEAKER_05]: So they're typically higher than human eyes or can perceive.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, can perceive.
[SPEAKER_05]: Needless to say, scientific data of ball lighting is pretty much non-existent.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Besides that it happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's nothing that measure off of nothing that compare it to nothing in the books yet pretty much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a couple like associated things with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like the Thunderstorm thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: It produces light.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's typically blue.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's average size of the softball or not softball.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, a volleyball.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you said anywhere from a P to a meter's two meters wide, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: But so it's average size.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like a softball.
[SPEAKER_05]: I got basketball somewhere in there.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's most people that experience if I'm going to say it, you know, when they put it up with their hands, that size, okay, can be a little larger.
[SPEAKER_05]: Can be smaller.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we have.
[SPEAKER_05]: data.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now that science is taking it seriously, they're looking back a lot of these virtual talk about some of these historic hundreds and hundreds of years ago accounts of ball lightning.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're taking them and looking in them more seriously now.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we can we're piecing together information.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're putting the puzzle pieces arranging them correctly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Although laboratory experiments have produced effects that are kind of similar to reports of some ball lightning.
[SPEAKER_05]: They still don't know if it's
[SPEAKER_05]: So characteristics, there are depiction of ball lightning very pretty widely, but, you know, they have some consistencies, they are almost always ascribed as moving, whether it's moving up or down sideways or unpredictable trajectories like zigzag, okay, a lot of people they're always hovering off the ground, okay, so they're never sitting on the ground in stationary, they're never stationary, they're never sitting on the ground, whether they're moving really slow or kind of
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, a lot of people describe as a person's walking speed.
[SPEAKER_05]: They seem like a person or they're intelligent, whether they are not as a whole different question, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Just people that have witnessed it, say it looks like a person just walking, but it was just happened to be a bowl of lightning.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I've been all around, uh, see, or attracted to you and infected by or
[SPEAKER_05]: We have no we don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: Some accounts describe it as moving through solid masses of wood in metal without any effect.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's like nine in there like yeah, well, others describe it distructively melting and burning those substances.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we got two different types of whole through metal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, where one does that and the other one absolutely nothing.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that may be due to grounding.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, because it's like why people some people get struck by lightning and they don't have any marks and other people get exploded.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's because of grounding.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Whether lightning is passing through you or stopping you or it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're stopping.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's stopping in you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it could be that, too, or the ones that could like the glass or the wood or whatever could be well grounded.
[SPEAKER_05]: So wood's not conductive, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Or typically not conductive.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: But if you produce enough electricity, everything is conductive.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I just want to make that clear.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's no such thing as a non-conductive material.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just the power output to make it conductive.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got sure, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: So this may be having a powered.
[SPEAKER_05]: What is now conduct?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It goes right.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I've seen videos of lightning strikes hitting trees because right through it, but I'm, you know, typically not connected to things like glass.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, watch it.
[SPEAKER_05]: OK. Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Other non-conductive materials that it seems to like.
[SPEAKER_05]: It appears to also be linked somewhat to power lines.
[SPEAKER_05]: altitude.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's almost always seen at 300 meters or higher.
[SPEAKER_05]: It also seems to be connected to thunderstorms, but there are cases of it in the calm, people in normal weather.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, like I said, a lot of this is just anecdotal, just trying to, you know, put something together, put it in some sort of a box.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ball lighting has been described as translucent, transparent, multicolored, evenly lit, radiating flamed, filament, sparking, or with shapes that vary between sphere, avoid tear
[SPEAKER_05]: What your typical is the ball at a typical color is blue and with slightly transparent like you could like a lot of the ones I was reading for this or like a glass almost like not it's not glass show well but like a glass ball with blue lightning zigzagging inside okay so you can see the lightning are the things removing inside of it and then you can kind of see behind it if it's not bright but some of them are so bright they're just a blinding light.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of reminds me of the little Tesla coil ball things that like Spencer's gifts.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, kind of like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe that's what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just one of them iscaped.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you put in big enough battery into one, they turn to that.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's those new because their batteries we were talking about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, what are they?
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you're on gliding.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like what is happening?
[SPEAKER_02]: Become self-conscious or not self-conscious.
[SPEAKER_02]: Conscious.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why self-consciously.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if I, that's why avoid people, you look at it just right
[SPEAKER_05]: Although there are separate distinct phenomena, the ball lightning is often erroneously identified as CM was fire.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that you'll see it and they're like, I seen CM was fire.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, you've seen ball lightning.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what's the difference though?
[SPEAKER_05]: CM was fire is a completely different weird phenomena.
[SPEAKER_05]: Has that been explained though?
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's another mystery.
[SPEAKER_05]: CM was fire.
[SPEAKER_05]: Will the West is also another one, which is a completely distinct, light phenomena.
[SPEAKER_05]: okay i guess i didn't know what just distinguishes between one or the other i don't know so will the west is like almost always time we've done episode one of the west remember it's little blue lights right right they can be read they can be yellow but i was always blue they're dance or bounce for the woods what they're little
[SPEAKER_05]: okay and they are almost always appearing like a flame.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, they have that property to them for these ball lighting is a ball of electric right what appears to be electricity like could be plasma yeah, yeah, that's a big one or the plasma you light a toothpick on fire and put your microwave could be that great
[SPEAKER_02]: Or a grape.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm fire, but just a grape.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, you cut a grape into half and yeah, and then put it under a glass jar, don't do this because it'll ruin your microwave.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it ruins him.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mr. Lusk was always asking for microwaves.
[SPEAKER_05]: He was like, your parents are getting rid of a microwave, grab it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Give it to me because he's only do it a couple times before they explode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's building some big magnetron in his backyard garage.
[SPEAKER_05]: uh, let me give you the boys couple.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I mean, do you want me to pull up St. Amel's fire and actual description?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just, I mean, I just want to make sure we're not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess they're both just not the same exact phenomena.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not the same phenomena.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: St. Amel's fire is in the sky.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, now you got me all clicking on kinds of buttons.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, boy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, swamp gas.
[SPEAKER_05]: The balls have been reported to disappear in many different ways from just suddenly vanishing going out.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's seen a lot of that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, they just kind of poof, they're not there anymore, to, you know, gradually disappearing.
[SPEAKER_05]: So like a light going out slowly, losing battery power or something like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Being absorbed into an object is often other described and invisible or an object, you can't see because the light that the ball lighting is producing.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like it's being swallowed by something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and then the suddenly loud popping to that one's new to me, that one's new when you mentioned that earlier.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've never heard that before this exploded is marked as an explosion with force.
[SPEAKER_05]: It hasn't even reported to the police with damages as in blowing car windows and blowing house windows out, burning the sides of the house is where it looks like you seriously took like a giant like heat lamp and burnt a house.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or it's just the circle.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, yeah, sat it right on it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_05]: Accounts also vary, and it's a ledge danger to humans.
[SPEAKER_05]: From lethal to harmless, where there's some reports of hating people and them exploding.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's lethal.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then others were, they've touched it.
[SPEAKER_05]: They've been around it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they report feel and almost just like the, like electricity in the air.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like if you ever, unfortunately, heard of somebody that's been struck by lightning, that's like, it could feel electricity danced on your skin.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's like when people touch this thing, they could feel that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like in that Zelda game.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's that breath of the wild?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if you have like, if there's a lightning storm out, your sword will, if you're wearing anything metal at the time of lightning storm, it'll like flash once, flash twice, flash again, and then you'll get to start by lightning.
[SPEAKER_05]: Please, the company has that.
[SPEAKER_05]: What is it, lethal company?
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, I've talked about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a, like, there used to be a giant galactic human race and then the eater of worlds showed up and then humans like humans now are like living on scrap.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like we have technology, we have ships, but we really don't understand how they work.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like he's mailed together.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like the remnants of an ancient culture.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: The Angel culture was super advanced, so the planet having now the beast is sleeping on the golden, the clone quote, the golden planet, uh, which was sort of the outline completely in gold, that was the last thing at eight, and it's just sleeping on it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So they, you have to keep getting stuff to feed it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, keep it just sleep, keep it happy, gotcha?
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, uh, but if you have there's lightning sword to some of the planets you can visit and if you have anything metal in your inventory you get one flash and you have a drop at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, what is this lethal company?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it game?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, it's a game, I've never heard of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_05]: A review of an available literature published in 1972 identified the properties as typical enlightenment.
[SPEAKER_05]: While it's continuously
[SPEAKER_05]: So let me read this for you.
[SPEAKER_05]: So here's what in 1972 they said is, this is your average ballading.
[SPEAKER_05]: They frequently appear almost spontaneously with cloud to ground lightning discharges.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's a assuming they're right there, it's a byproduct of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: They are generally spherical or pear-shaped with fuzzy edges.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're diameter ranges from one to 100 centimeters, which is 0.4 inches to 40 inches.
[SPEAKER_05]: Most commonly, though, 10 to 20 centimeters are 0.4 to 8 inches.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're brightness corresponds to roughly that of a domestic lamp, so they can be seen clearly in daylight.
[SPEAKER_05]: A wide range of colors has been observed red, orange, and yellow
[SPEAKER_05]: The lifetime of each event is from one second to over a minute long with brightness remaining fairly constant during the time.
[SPEAKER_05]: They tend to move a few meters per second, most often in a horizontal direction, but may also be seen vertically, remaining stationary or wandering erratically.
[SPEAKER_05]: They may are many are described as having rotational motion.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is rare to observe reports that of sensation of heat, although some cases say disappearance of the ball is accompanied by a liberal liberation of heat, so that when they're on, there's no heat to being produced, but when they disappear, at least like a furnace blast of heat.
[SPEAKER_05]: Some display an affiction for metal objects and may move along conductors, such as wires, metal fences, and railroad tracks.
[SPEAKER_05]: Some appear within buildings passing through closed doors and windows.
[SPEAKER_05]: Some have appeared within metal aircrafts and have entered and left without causing any damage to aircrafts.
[SPEAKER_05]: The difference of the ball is generally rapid and may either be silent or explosive.
[SPEAKER_05]: The odors of these resemble ozone burning with sulfur nitrogen oxide being reported.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's like, from 1972, when they were first, a big group was collecting a lot of data on it.
[SPEAKER_05]: But this group threw a lot of eyewitness reports out for what reasons.
[SPEAKER_05]: Same thing science, some scientists do is it didn't fit.
[SPEAKER_05]: They have an idea of what they wanted to be.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so you find hundreds of encounters with that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then while this one, mine was dis-shaped and it was zigzagging all around.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're on count now.
[SPEAKER_05]: You didn't know what we were seeing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: you seen something different.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So there's a lot of them bias.
[SPEAKER_05]: They wanted to be one thing like they associated with with the thunderstorm discharges.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm guessing he did not include a lot of those if they didn't want to associate it with thunderstorm discharges.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we don't it could be a multiple phenomenon.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, under one umbrella, just like big foot and you know, we talk about with certain there's hundreds there's very fire everything that probably not it's almost always in Florida.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, it's kind of like saying almost fire up in the sky, they call it fairy fires are fairy lightings with a whole bunch of pink assuming lightings that look like look like there's an entity inside of it, like flying around and dancing with each other like inside a cloud or something like in the sky, okay, just in the sky.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm, I see but it's often it's with the tropical storms in Florida.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and Storms bring a lot of high energy, obviously.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if it's anything just natural or something super natural, uh, where those high energy areas are that's where that stuff happens.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you ready for this one?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, boy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_05]: It should be a name you know here in a second.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to talk about some historic accounts.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ballating is possible.
[SPEAKER_05]: This source of legend is described as luminous balls, such as the mytho around.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're called Arkham Myod and from the Argentina and the Chilean Metallope Che culture.
[SPEAKER_05]: Can I just say that these these people, these groups of natives have these stories of these and are these things.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's probably ball-iting.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: They just have a lot of them more commonly.
[SPEAKER_05]: So they make legends around them.
[SPEAKER_05]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what they're claiming.
[SPEAKER_05]: According to the Statistical Investigation carried out in the 1960, of a 1952 Oak Ridge National Laboratory Monthly Roll Personnel.
[SPEAKER_05]: And out of all 15,923 United Cambridge Nuclear Company personnel in Oak Ridge,
[SPEAKER_05]: The scientific American article summarizes the study as having found that ball lightning has been seen by 5% of the Earth's population.
[SPEAKER_05]: Another study analyzed reports a more than 2,000 cases.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you know, Oak Ridge, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Then you could just say, where's that located?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I now Oak Ridge, Oak Ridge National Laboratory.
[SPEAKER_02]: I sound so familiar.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's, it's, it's, it's got dog man and big foot and all kinds of stuff around it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't now go, I'll look it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, that's not the one in like North Carolina, is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was Tennessee.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tennessee, maybe it is North Carolina.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember though, but you said the number, though, 5% of them are crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a lot higher than I would have imagined.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm wondering too, and that's, you're,
[SPEAKER_02]: Tennessee.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know it.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the one that Tony talks about a lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: That has all the evil stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why it sounds familiar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: So five and I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: So they were doing a lot of their employees were seeing this stuff around the grounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: On a nuclear power plant.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's not good.
[SPEAKER_05]: What is it the same thing is it's a byproduct of just free radicalized energy.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's nothing intelligent, it's nothing paranormal.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just a piece of science we don't understand where it's a manifestation of free radicalized energy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the biggest natural producer of this is lightning stores.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're seeing it's like a byproduct of what's the word.
[SPEAKER_05]: like in excess of something this would be yeah it's just it's just left over like this electricity essentially burning off hmm there's so much energy in the air that everyone's going to close together you we see it physically gotcha okay where there are animals at sea electricity are a way to sea electricity we just don't happen to be one of those
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely not unless you unless it's really powerful like your hair stand up on your own You know what we can physically observe it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like camera sharks.
[SPEAKER_05]: Their whole head is designed to sense that stuff for electricity They can actually map out electrical wires under like concrete if they wanted to
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I imagine if we could see electricity or magnetic fields or electric fields, or whatever, EMF fields, or EM fields, electromagnetic, yeah, that's EMFF is already built in field.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think we'd buy it all go crazy or everything would look wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we probably turn off a lot of stuff, you know, then our everyday lifestyle modern day, we're surrounded by it, it's 24.7.
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, so they found that 5% of the U.S. population has seen ball lighting.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_05]: And a lot of them just don't talk about it because they've seen it.
[SPEAKER_05]: What was that?
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: The light.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So let's talk about some historic accounts.
[SPEAKER_05]: Grevers of Centro Berry.
[SPEAKER_05]: And guess what this is?
[SPEAKER_02]: UK.
[SPEAKER_02]: England.
[SPEAKER_05]: Grevers of Canterbury and English monk.
[SPEAKER_05]: contains what is possibly the earliest known reference to ball lighting with a date of June 7th, 11.95.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's pretty old.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a while ago.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: He states, our Marlifusus site descended near London, consisting of a dense and darker cloud, emitting a white substance that grew into a spherical shape under the cloud, which was fiery globe
[SPEAKER_05]: The physicist Irmist Professor Brian Tanner, in his story in Jarles Jeffers of Dunaharming University, identified the chronicle early entry, has probably described in ball lightning and noted simulators of other accounts, okay?
[SPEAKER_05]: A grievous description of the white substance coming out of the dark cloud, balling in a spherical fiery sphere.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was having some horizontal motion is very similar to other historic accounts describing ball lighting.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's fascinating to see how closely this 12th century description matches modern day sightings.
[SPEAKER_05]: The great thunderstorm of white are wide comb in the more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you say that again, please.
[SPEAKER_05]: The great thunderstorm of wide comb in the more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wide comb in the more.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's dashes between every word.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gosh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a place.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this another UK thing?
[SPEAKER_02]: How'd you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because of the name.
[SPEAKER_05]: In Devon, in Devon, England.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: So one of the early accounts of the great thunderstorm at a church in wide comb in the more Devin England was on October 21st of 1638, or people died that approximately 60 people suffered gravest injuries from the severe thunderstorm.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wouldn't just describe an eight foot tall ball of fire striking it entering the church, nearly destroying it, blowing it to bits.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we're, this is beyond ball lightning.
[SPEAKER_05]: Large stones from the church, or the church's walls, well, hurled to the ground and through, through large wooden beams, like it was attracted to the stones and when it touched the stones, it was basically cannon firing them through walls.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, well, it was them, like, like a magnet.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, through the walls.
[SPEAKER_05]: The ball of fire allegedly smashed a pew in many windows and it built the church with a foul sulfurous odor.
[SPEAKER_05]: And a dark thick smoke.
[SPEAKER_05]: the ball of fire reportedly divided into two segments, which is another thing, while it needs to be seen either merging or vibrating.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, one exiting through the window by smashing it open and the other disappearing somewhere inside the church because the fire and the sulfur smell, everybody explained the ball as the devil.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it was the fires of hell sent.
[SPEAKER_05]: Later, some blame the entire incident on two people having been playing cards in a Pew during a sermon thereby incurring the wrath of God.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's probably exactly what happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good of that one, I feel more confident.
[SPEAKER_05]: There are just a picture from the day of this and they draw this ball of lightning almost humanoid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I don't know that's artist like, yeah, artistic license, yeah, or if that's really what they seen.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, they exploded this church.
[SPEAKER_05]: It walked into the front door of the church and just started exploding it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, something.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's beyond ball lightning.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it could be ball lightning.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think it's too much of a coincidence being in a church.
[SPEAKER_02]: The guy's playing hard.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this is this is 1638.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_05]: What is the only building where people congregate?
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, I'm a church or like a pub restaurant, a blarothel.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not I mean, but like a church is like a pillar of town.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I know.
[SPEAKER_05]: Everybody is in.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if this happens to a, I think it just happened to be a church versus it happening to a church on purpose in my head.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was going to say something like an ember hopped out of the fire right last down.
[SPEAKER_05]: Something like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: A cat.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, burns down.
[SPEAKER_05]: What was that?
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it was a rat at burnt down a house.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a famous story that like rats would run into a fire to hide, catch on fire, then run back into your house.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then they would burn your house down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my god.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm fire running through your wall.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it's like a chewed through a wire or something.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm talking like 15, 1600.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the rat caught itself avert and ran as a human flame into your house and said it on fire.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's unfortunate thing ever.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is also the time they were blaming sound managers.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Actually, this, this is like five, six hundred years after that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: The first month was closer to the time they were blaming.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: The sound manager.
[SPEAKER_05]: My fire sound manager is on the closet fires.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_05]: Patrons just end up being, I thought that's going to be one part.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's going to be like two parts.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just imagine though the guy sitting outside watching this house burn and then it gives neighbors like oh man that's really sucks and you see this rat run out from his on fire right into his house.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like it came from the other guys out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah he's like oh man it really sucks you and then the rat runs out right under his house.
[SPEAKER_02]: they just runs in after it and it's a big ball flame in two seconds because they at that's roof site.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's all kindling.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's where rich because then they were made a stone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's sweet.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I think with a granite, wasn't it?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Blue granite.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like to slate roof tiles, though.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I mean, I'm talking about like, castles, but not... Oh, got you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, manners.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, when you were rich, like, that's why there's 2,000-year-old home still standing in the UK, because they were built at a stone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then all the houses we build now can't last 100 years, not even 50 years, maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you don't even stay in it at 2010 years, tops.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they also had slaves and peasants that they could make the stones.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, but we have companies and people we pay money to it should even do a better job But you can still do it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just cost a lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's to pay those people that are carving the rocks into bricks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess so They didn't I guess so what do you mean you guess so?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I just don't like it The swoop Catherine and Mary.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you want a swoop is no
[SPEAKER_05]: In December of 1726, a number of British newspapers printed an extract of a letter from John Hallow of the Slope of Catherine and Mary.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is what it says.
[SPEAKER_05]: I hate reading old English.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd rather try to read Spanish translations, as we are coming though the Gulf of Florida on the 29th August, a large ball of fire fell from the element and split our mass into 10,000 pieces.
[SPEAKER_05]: And if it were possible, split our main beam, also three planks of the side underwater in three of the deck, killed one man.
[SPEAKER_05]: Another had his hand carried of sick.
[SPEAKER_05]: Man, I, I, I, and had it not been for his violent rain or sales would have been burst into flame.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have no slew, expert, but that don't sound good.
[SPEAKER_05]: So basically this ball light and came down right through the main sale.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Bluewood, just a million pieces.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: The ball went through the deck.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just exploding the three beams it hit and then out the side under the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: It made a left hand turn, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And went to the ocean.
[SPEAKER_02]: and disperse.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then there was a guy somewhere between there and he blew him up too.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, it's it's 1726 you're on a swoop in the middle of the Gulf of Florida.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can see I'm envisioning his right one rain.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: A ball of a extremely bright light from God.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's coming here.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're like,
[SPEAKER_05]: And then it explodes your mask and you a billion pieces hits the guy's dead and next to you And he just turns to go red mist red mist, but like and then it goes it burrows into your ship And then punches a hole into the ocean.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's something at all What do you do
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like cray.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know that's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's all you can do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you do it's an old technique, but I read it in a book.
[SPEAKER_02]: You take both your legs and you stick them on your ears and you kiss your butt.
[SPEAKER_02]: Goodbye.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I just imagine how it like, so it's so pretty.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then all hell breaks loose.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you ever see, remember that movie, War of the Worlds?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, where the original or the new one?
[SPEAKER_02]: The one with Tom Cruise.
[SPEAKER_05]: new one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where's like the lightning and stuff's coming down like striking the ground, they're all kind of like whoa, like they're in all of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the ships come out of the area.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's scary.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what happened?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's that?
[SPEAKER_05]: So that alien that force?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: They invade planets.
[SPEAKER_05]: They've been in the meeting plans for millions of years.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: They send their technology beforehand and then they and then that lightning if you maybe you freeze frame it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's them.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're in it going into the ship.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a Star Trek technology.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of a beam and it's like a physical beam you can see.
[SPEAKER_05]: The HMS Wargig.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wargig?
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a word that doesn't exist anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wargig.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's a word.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's what you, it's what you got to pay on your house.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, more, mortgage?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it's not that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, it's got weird hyphens on letters.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, remember it's old English.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is how they used to spell it more gig.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: One particular large example was reported on the authority of Dr. Gregory in 1749 admiral chambers on the book of the more gigg Fourth of November 1749 was taking the observation just before noon when he observed a large ball of blue fire about three miles distance from them.
[SPEAKER_05]: You thought I was going to say three miles wide.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah Then immediately lowered.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry
[SPEAKER_05]: about three, three miles distance from them.
[SPEAKER_05]: They immediately lowered their top sale, but came up so fast upon them that before he could rise the main track, the observed the ball raising almost periodically and not about 40 or 50 yards from the main chambers.
[SPEAKER_05]: Went off with an explosion.
[SPEAKER_05]: As great as a hundred cannons being fired discharge at the same time, leaving behind a strong sulfurous smell.
[SPEAKER_05]: By the explosion, the main top mass was shattered into pieces, and the main mass went down to the keel.
[SPEAKER_05]: Five men were knocked down, and one was observed to be severely bruised.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just before the explosion, the ball seemed to be the size of a large millstone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty looking up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what this is.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is just naval warfare.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is Chinese fireworks.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just fireworks.
[SPEAKER_02]: A explosion of light, and it smells like sulfur.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's that sound like to you?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's that describe?
[SPEAKER_05]: Hmm, a bat, huh?
[SPEAKER_05]: A bat.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a defense mechanism of the glowing bat.
[SPEAKER_02]: They, oh, the glowing bat.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's me, it sounds like a mortar shell.
[SPEAKER_02]: It at the firework stand down at 309.
[SPEAKER_05]: See, it's actually roping.
[SPEAKER_05]: These are all roping.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: The cryptid.
[SPEAKER_05]: But they get to disease.
[SPEAKER_05]: A rare disease that causes them to explode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, first they, they get infected by a bioluminescent algae in their firm.
[SPEAKER_05]: Robing glow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do they?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like bright blue.
[SPEAKER_05]: They have a patch on their chest and they're the end of their tail glows.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's all it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: They got overcharged and explodes.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a disease that just higher our hot wires and them to explode so they spread their disease.
[SPEAKER_02]: Their thermostat gets broken.
[SPEAKER_05]: In 1970 or sorry, night or sorry.
[SPEAKER_05]: 1753.
[SPEAKER_05]: Reports recount lethal ball lightning when Professor George Richmond of St. Peter's Burger Russia constructed a kite flying apparatus similar to Ben Franklin's proposal a year earlier.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, oh, Ben did this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let me try this.
[SPEAKER_05]: He got lightning.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ah, I'm going to try this.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to try sky fishing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Richmond was attending a meeting at the Academy of Science when he heard thunder, ran outside with his engraver to capture the event, posthumously, I knew that at some water where I just can't say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the experiment was underway, ball lightning appeared.
[SPEAKER_05]: So he's running out.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, I want to test this.
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to do this thing experiment, Ben did lightning's outside.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're coming with me to keep trying to take data, to take notes, and then ball lightning
[SPEAKER_05]: The ball had left a red, oh sorry, while the experiment was under way, boligning at a beer, traveling down the string, crawling towards the man, striking his forearm and killed him.
[SPEAKER_05]: Dang, okay, he's doing these flying and he's like, yeah, yeah, get that key and then ball hitting like crawled down the rope at him really fast jumped onto his arm and he just died.
[SPEAKER_05]: It passed surpassed the key.
[SPEAKER_05]: The ball had left a red spot on his arm.
[SPEAKER_05]: His shoes were blown open like a cartoon.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh man.
[SPEAKER_05]: And his clothes or his clothing was singing as how they set it.
[SPEAKER_05]: the steam it was like whistling like it was a big teapot oh geez is engraver was knocked severely unconscious by the explosion the door frame of the room was split and the door was torn from its hinges thrown back several feet okay so this is quite the explosion mm-hmm don't touch ball lighting it didn't like to be touched man but I don't know
[SPEAKER_05]: Kind of guys, doesn't it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm, a little bit.
[SPEAKER_05]: Don't touch it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't like being pet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: The HMS-Lorean Hastings.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is pretty famous ship.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you know it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Never heard of her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Should I have?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty famous.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then tell me about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why don't you tell me about it?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just said, I just told you what I know.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now this journal reported during the storm of 1809.
[SPEAKER_05]: Three balls of fire appeared and a tapped a British ship.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was the HMS worn Hastings.
[SPEAKER_05]: The crew watched as one ball descended killing a man on the deck and setting the main mass on fire instantly in a
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, we'll come to that part.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad you noticed the ship theme because they're not all in ships, but a lot more at this time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: It kind of goes away after a bit, but we'll get to that.
[SPEAKER_05]: a crew are sorry, so the one man just killed him instantly and then the main mass called on fire and it like in a blaze.
[SPEAKER_05]: A crewman went out to retrieve the fallen body that was struck by the second ball, which knocked him back and left him with his, with mild burns.
[SPEAKER_05]: A third man was killed by the contact with the third ball.
[SPEAKER_05]: Crew member is reported a persistent-signing sulfur smell afterwards.
[SPEAKER_05]: So these three balls are just kind of zooming around the deck and everybody they hit either explodes or die.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, so the thing with ships, specifically with this stuff from the like 1350s to the 1800s.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: They had a lot of people for stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: So a lot of witnesses.
[SPEAKER_05]: So like the church.
[SPEAKER_05]: and they took notes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_05]: Captains log.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_05]: They had extremely detailed journals.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there was actually depending on the ship and what you were doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: There was actually a person's only so job was the detailed notes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think it's that they like ships any more than anything else.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's more those facts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just the accounts were more, the preserve it down.
[SPEAKER_05]: They were preserved because they wouldn't, when they got back to, they would, their, their books would be either copied or taken and put on record.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, so I don't personally believe that there's any greater connection than anything else.
[SPEAKER_05]: It just at this time frame, that's where you were going to get reports.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's where stuff was going to get written down.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's where it was going to be saved for, you know, time.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's where you're going to have enough eyewitnesses.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because there's only two of you in your boat die, and you're just in a wood somewhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: Who's going to tell?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's 50 people in this ship and three of them blew up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Huh.
[SPEAKER_05]: I, that's my opinion.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's an opinion.
[SPEAKER_05]: I just, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll make sense.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because they're seen on land a lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: And as we get more and modern history, a lot of single eyewitnesses.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right on the land.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah on land accounts.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I just think that there were still single light when this is on land just as common in this time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just no way to report it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Especially in a population that couldn't read or write generally average person.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like the church was only pre people that could read or write like you don't take the stuff to them to transit or to read for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Transcribe it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So how are you going to, how are you going to, what are you going to tell somebody first off?
[SPEAKER_05]: You seen a ball of fire.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then who's going to write
[SPEAKER_02]: What could be like in the Bible with the burn in Bush?
[SPEAKER_02]: What if that means something else, you know?
[SPEAKER_05]: Adam Measer, code, oh my gosh, this is, I hate this name.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ebenezer, Cobham Brewer, sounds cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ebenezer, Cobham Brewer, that's too many names, okay?
[SPEAKER_05]: Ebeneezer, though, in the 1864 US edition of the sign of the Guide to Scientific Knowledge of Things Familiar.
[SPEAKER_05]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_05]: Discuss?
[SPEAKER_05]: Globular.
[SPEAKER_05]: Lightning.
[SPEAKER_05]: He describes it as slow-moving balls of fire, or explosive gas.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's sometimes fall to the earth, or run along the ground during thunderstorms.
[SPEAKER_05]: He said the ball sometimes split into smaller balls and explode like cannons.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, it just was it was interesting 1964 U.S. edition that the guy did scientific knowledge.
[SPEAKER_05]: He just posted about it didn't call it ball lightning Whether he knew of it phenomena or he just discovered it in his own research and was like this is interesting.
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to Publish it Yeah, just another thing that he had ran into enough accounts where he feels like he had a Rough description of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah Gosh, it just it just seems like static discharge.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just feels or not feels like but I don't know how to describe it
[SPEAKER_05]: see I don't I think it's much more than that yeah I think it's done so many things and you've mentioned it already it seems like it's alive or intelligent in some way okay now when we hop I mean I got tons more stories but we're already at 50 minutes so maybe we'll do where am I ball lighting part two where's the slider so I know where I am no I don't know how far
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I got the stories from everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to talk a lot and Well, I meant the sliders probably should have tiny.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so big.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, if we're going to do a part two, I mean, this is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting, and I realize there's so many accounts too that are documented, especially that old because I mean that that phenomena too with old paintings is stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's yeah, there's paintings of pollating whether it's ball lighting or people in crafts or, you know, I'm kind of stuff weird regardless.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you're doing mention it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It seems almost like it's alive.
[SPEAKER_05]: So think back to the the
[SPEAKER_05]: demon core episode when we talk about the nukes and the creatures that seem that the beings that we're flying through the air and walking or they describe these things on green fire right yeah walking around and flying and they seem like they were in distress too
[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll do more stories next week and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: But my kind of big thought is, what of these are the electromagnetic creatures that live in their sewer?
[SPEAKER_05]: In lightning storms, get them sticky, sticky, sticky.
[SPEAKER_05]: As in, it's sticking to them.
[SPEAKER_05]: That they're always there.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're always moving around.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we just can't perceive them.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, the lightning itself is sticking to them.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're proud of them sticking to them.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're having onto them.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you can see them temporarily.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like the nuclear fire did in Japan when we dropped the nukes.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they either just they either shake it off or maybe it's lethal to them and they actually do blow up if they get too much of it or yeah, when maybe they're looking for some way to just dispel it or they're trying to hear something yeah they're just trying to get it off them right yeah so when it hits you sometimes discharge or something is done right that may be why they're looking for things or maybe it's little enough that like sometimes they're just like this will dissipate I can
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but if it builds up too much or yeah, what if it builds up so much that's uncontrollable and like any of the nearest object it kind of just is pulled past you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just like a like a static charge pull to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's an interesting thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: You ever like, I think I've talked about for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Turn all the lights off and you take a blanket and you like pull it over your head or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you see the static like, but it like jumps through the blanket to the factory.
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of envision that when you talked about some of those stories the way that moving radically.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you've ever seen that, the way that static charge just, but you have to have the lights completely out and it happens in the blink of an eye, so you know, you can't really see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you see those little sparks kind of jump through the blanket and it's, I mean, that's weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I've set a static charge, something, you know, similar, but just on a grand scale that,
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's, it's static.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a static electricity just to earth.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just huge, such a, the amount of power behind lightning closet rather than a blanket being pulled over your head.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, as it may be just so different, where you might get more phenomena attached to it.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's free energy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: And another thought I had to, what if it's psychic beings?
[SPEAKER_02]: What if this is what you see when someone's
[SPEAKER_02]: another planet, another plane or even, yeah, and are dimensionally like, viewing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or through time, like, ascial projection, I imagine it's like current, you know, you're going through the current time and space of now, it's just not your physical body.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what if people can, you know, can have visions, you know, they go into the past and they project and they view events in the past, you know, in this, what if this is that phenomenon that they're seeing the byproduct of people in the past?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's is what they're seeing.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know what actually is.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was going to say for next episode, but you got me on this thread.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm cold gathered round H.A.M.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't comply, you are foes alive, we can't deny Mushroom smart, fairies and I, Elementals in the woods so slide At the end of the night we sigh Sitting round the fire, we try Talking monsters, eating corn Oh my, Elementals in the woods so slide At the end of the night we sigh Sitting round the fire, we try Talking monsters, eating corn Oh my