[SPEAKER_01]: Hey guys, welcome to Tokyo Japan to the Tokyo Ability Show in today's episode podcast slash video is very special because we're going to be showing you the latest and greatest vehicles here in the Toyota slash century slash Lexus booth starting with this tummy.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is this?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this is a car I was so critical about when I saw the images and now that I've kind of had to poke him proud around it I'm really excited.
[SPEAKER_02]: What we're looking at here is a Toyota Land Cruiser and this is a model called the Land Cruiser FJ and That if someone is listening to this podcast and not watching it on YouTube Describe the look of this little Land Cruiser
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it looks like, uh, if you know, the Suzuki Jimny, it looks like the Suzuki Jimny that went to the Jim and bolt up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or a Renegade, like a Jeep Renegade that had a... That was the Jim and bolt up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's got some kind of funky Lego-like proportions, but when you see it in person, there's a lot to really like here.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of great hardware I think on this Land Cruiser that I would love that came to the US, but that this thing is not slated to come to America, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: you know I'm hoping it does come to America to it has not said so but I fear you might be right this may be something that unfortunately will not see our North American shores but it should because it is the right size I believe the right cost and the right build for America Canada
[SPEAKER_01]: Hell, all of North America.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now let's start with this one the most off-road one because this unlike many of the cars here at the Tokyo Auto Show mobility show is not a concept.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're actually building this they're gonna sell it and what impresses me from the get-go is look we've got a snorkel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly right.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is kind of a pint-sized off-roader.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's quite a bit small in the 250 series land cruiser that we get in the US.
[SPEAKER_02]: Our buddy James actually went ahead into a bunch of crunching of the numbers for us.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty much the same size as an FJ Cruiser, but it's got four real doors, and it's quite narrow in person.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, from the slew thing I've done, which is a little tricky, because it's all in Japanese and after translate, this is based on the IMV architecture,
[SPEAKER_02]: the Toyota 4 tuner, I think if I remember correctly, so it's a longitudinal body-on frame architecture with a solder axe.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't get like the highlights, that's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But let's kind of keep going with the tour, now the most controversial thing that a lot of comments were made on our offer video is this front bumper, this is a lot of plastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's a lot of plastic, but let me show you something yesterday when we did our first video on this, they had that one, which has, you can show them the headlights.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the blue one has, well there's a guy there right now of course, they're looking at kind of square headlights basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: A U-shaped turn sideways, but this one, just like the Land Cruiser of the Weeket,
[SPEAKER_01]: has also the round lights, which are more iconic that's facing for a land cruiser.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can spec it, like you said, that both ways with square or round.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the way to get it, though.
[SPEAKER_02]: The round headlights, I think, kind of help with some of the cartoony proportions, and especially with this bumper, which is also different.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, this is...
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a big underbite.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a big old chin right here, folks.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a massive plastic bumper that leads right into these big, kind of cladded arches that make her way down the side of the vehicle.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like I said, folks, in pictures, it looks kind of goofy.
[SPEAKER_02]: In person, I think it actually looks pretty rad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it looks much better in person.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also like the fact that this one has a little beefier tire on it, so this is an open country from Toyo, of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see the sizing on this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe it's a 26560 R18.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, that's on the street going one.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a 26565 R17.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is like a 31-ish install tire.
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that more beefy.
[SPEAKER_01]: You see this too?
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a six-lunk.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, yeah, it's interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Six-luck, and then to the left of it, you've got an Airbnb step slash rock rail, how is it?
[SPEAKER_00]: A cool, cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: It has some real off-road credit on top is the Airbnb roof rack.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Toyota has certainly thought about taking this off-road, and if we go around the back, I actually think the back looks better in the front.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, as it's got kind of this very futuristic black panel.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a perfectly a vertical fall off with this black panel slash glass portion that hides some of the proportions.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like the blue one.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is actually, I don't think a spare tire.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a full-size spare.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the blue one, I think, had a temp spare maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll go down there, show them the interior in a second.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then this also is just kind of ruggedized finish on the bumper.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then like I, this is the most futuristic angle.
[SPEAKER_02]: This kind of rear three quarter.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got a little bit of a bow tail taper along the side here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then same thing on the roof.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's very flat and they're right at the back.
[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of falls off a little bit full LED tail lights.
[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of binicals it or stuck on.
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The problem that we have in America right now is,
[SPEAKER_01]: that if you go in the turn of line up at least underneath the forerunner you get to the raft for and the raft for woodland is basically a soft rotor and this could live in that space as a real off rotor right now it's going to take the woodland to Moab and do pins and things to help prevent you we just tear it apart but this could do it because it's got a locker.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right, and it's got a real low range as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a couple of the design cues which are very reminiscent of other land cruisers that we see for sale on other markets is for example this window line with the little kick-up here at the rear end and I like this deep pillar how it's all chunky and squared off.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I was really critical about this car when I first saw it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you guys are listening to this as a podcast, the color is pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a metallic green, almost zincy color.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's something I haven't really seen before.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, when we look at the actual platform, this is, as you mentioned, the body on frame, put the camera underneath there, this has got a much beefier skid plate by ARB, so they've done a lot of little ARB goodies on this, recovery points, independent front suspension, and then it does have a solid rear out back.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, there is some actual off-road tech, so the problem that I have with the renegade is it looks pretty chunky and frail ready,
[SPEAKER_02]: kind of a fiat with some cladding on it, where this is actually a high looks underneath that has got some real capability.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was looking over there and I was going to go jump in the interior while there's somebody not sitting in it and show them the inside of it, because this blue one is actually open.
[SPEAKER_01]: This green one is not open, but here we have one that we can jump into and show what it looks like inside.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, here we can try to make her way in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: let's see.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well maybe I think we can go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's cleaning off the door handle here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's see if we can go inside and show him the interior.
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go, Tommy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Ed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so let's take a peek in here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now there's a lot of things that are going to be familiar to you if you're a Toyota fan.
[SPEAKER_02]: So stuff like the infotainment screen.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty much the same as you're going to find in a
[SPEAKER_02]: same thing with the shifter, same thing with the overall dash and vent design, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all very familiar to those who are fans of current Toyota products, but there are a couple of things in here which are very unique.
[SPEAKER_02]: For example, it does have your four wheel drive selector with a low range and a locking rear differential, that is super cool and it's not a full-time four wheel drive, it is a part-time four wheel drive, so
[SPEAKER_02]: huge huge amounts of headroom in this little box legroom is okay the one thing I will say is it's very narrow in here so there's not a lot of shoulder room to work with inside this baby land cruiser so it's quite a long it's very very tall but it's not super wide which kind of makes sense for Japanese streets right you don't want these super wide machines and then you can see that
[SPEAKER_02]: thing more time than very squared off steering wheel right with all your safety gear it does have adaptive cruise control lane centering all that's going to be familiar and then this is pretty luxurious heated windshield I think that's what that is or heated windshield wipers heated seats dual zone automatic climate control so there's still quite a few luxury features in here it's not as basic and stripped down as I think a lot of us were expecting
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you must sit in the back while we got it to show how a true mirror is back here because it is pretty roomy actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's check out the back here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, have a seat in the back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Show them how big it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, it's LMR from Omar Drive.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey Omar, how are you doing, dude?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so good leg room over here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really good headroom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, the only thing that's a little limiting is just how narrow it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it is a five-seater, but this middle seat person's going to be incredibly uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is kind of like 20% smaller back here than I'd say a 400.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the fact that they're grab handles on all four seats and back here in this guys about the opening so let's show them the inside.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's actually pretty roomy in the way back here Tommy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean we've got you know enough room for a decent set of luggage.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to put a bike in there you can take it apart but you can certainly do it the seats fold.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's a good.
[SPEAKER_01]: room and you can see the difference between the off-rody one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's just plastic on the top of the bumper yeah normal black plastic you can see it does have some recline of those seats you can see it's a pretty much a 50-50 split with that weird little awkward center seat this one doesn't have a sunroof in it but yeah what I like about this trunk area is it's perfectly square it's kind of like a box right there's no curves or or weird yeah if you're looking to this is a podcast
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry Omar and then looking underneath it is your quick look at the saw beer acts Alright, you can see your dampers coming through there to multi-leak rear suspension So I think I was expecting this to be a lot more basic and stripped down And a lot of markets Toyota does sell like a sub-$20,000 truck which is incredibly No nonsense built for work.
[SPEAKER_02]: This does feel still like a fairly premium item, especially with this one that has a soft tech seats the big screens that heated seats
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's finish up by talking once under the hood.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we can go back up here because we're going to hit the coral in X.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about under the hood.
[SPEAKER_01]: Under the hood, as you would expect, it's a four cylinder.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it's not the two four turbo that we get in the U.S.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a naturally aspirated 2.7, which I think is related to the old 27.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got in the third gen Tacoma, and it's been for sale for about 400 years.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the specs on it are 168 horsepower, some are in that territory, conventional automatic transmission, no diesel, and most interestingly, no hybrid.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, I hate to say this, because I don't want to throw cold water on you, Tommy, but where are you going to get the highlights you can probably get this?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that's probably a good bet, so far, I believe it's only Japan market, but that's definitely going to expand if I had to use my crystal ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, well let's go over here from the next most interesting vehicle here at least at the Tour to stand and that is the concept for the Tour to Corolla and this looks nothing like a Corolla time you barely looks like Alexis let alone a Corolla.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah so the Corolla is the best on car in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go around Corolla, take a good a bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this adds a lot of the people around it, of course, because the curl has sold more vehicles than, like you said, any other brand, people think it's the Volkswagen Beetle, but it's really the curl, and it's been around the longest, and what we're seeing here, at least, in Toyota, is kind of wider, swoopier, more interesting, and then the power train here is anything you want it to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so Toyota is saying that they're going to put everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're talking Lexus, high-brand, aren't so you Lexus, high-brand, a electric, high-brand, high-brand.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you're right that means Toyota has been known for a lot of things over the years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Being exciting to look at, it's not one of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is definitely exciting to look at though.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's low, it's wide, it's very sporty.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure the most interesting thing if you look at the interior, you'll notice that the driver seat and the passenger seat are different.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen that before.
[SPEAKER_01]: The idea there is the driver needs more lateral support because he's driving or she's driving or as the passenger needs more comfort and luxury.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they've designed two different seats for both.
[SPEAKER_01]: The driver and the passenger was just unusual and interesting and the gear selector is a way cool When you could show them that if this for sure you got them then pops out of there Oh, he's gonna be a comedy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the gear selector here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a good zoom there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is a little glass version of the car itself Now this is a very open concept floor plan.
[SPEAKER_02]: They would say this was a house, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But you kind of get a good sense of what that looks like so first of all that steering wheel not a yoke
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's got these little like gauge cluster from a fighter jet that faces the driver and then it's got a very open airy dash design with no central screen But a screen over here on the passenger side a totally flat floor You get this kind of center column that jumps out from the floor where you find your gear selector Then there's your center console and then my dad was talking about those two different seat designs
[SPEAKER_02]: both great and white.
[SPEAKER_02]: So a couple different sea textures and materials there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the other thing that's interesting about Atami is also the back seat, which, you know, they've paid a lot of attention to the use of materials, the...
[SPEAKER_01]: You some interesting colors.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's just a lot of cool cool stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to tell you my favorite part is It's actually in the back end, but the little duck tail spoiler and this wraparound rear tail light You know tail lights have gone across the entire back of cars to become a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: This one keeps going to the side of the car
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's got a little bit of LFA in it too, but I love this kind of hunch that makes a very aggressive angle as it transitions from side to rear-profile.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a cute little bucktail, how cool is that, huh?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's really, really interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: So lots of very cool textures and designs that we just have not seen on Corolla's in the past.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this looks like it could be a Lexus, it looks like it could be a sports car.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does not look like it should be an affordable car.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got my hand right now, but you got there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a, uh, let me fix that for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a big bucket of cold water.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
[SPEAKER_01]: If there's you know where this is going to end up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where can China?
[SPEAKER_00]: I, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is not, you know, our coral is so far from this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but every coral is so far from this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a mill with the Chinese coral looks like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: No coral.
[SPEAKER_02]: No coral is 21 inch wheels to start with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me fix your mic here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just problematic.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I think it'll be okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, it's on your land here, so be careful.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's head over to the next interesting thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is, imagine a truck with only bed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it kind of looks like something you would see at a factory.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a, let's go to Toyota IMV concept.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's built for developing countries like Africa, the IMV origin.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what this is is essentially a flat deck.
[SPEAKER_01]: with wheels and a steering wheel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very, very interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you watch Grand Tour, there was an episode where they went, I think Mongolia and they helicoptered a big box down form and they had to build their own little car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is kind of what that is if they were not a car but a truck.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what we have is like you say all bad and then I think you could put the steering wheel on either side it looks like so you could put it on the left or on the right.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a one driver specification.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a electric of course and it's front wheel drive, but the tires are very off-roady.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean it's such a cool idea, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: They say it's 70% finished.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like you said, you could put a cab on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could put a bed on here if you wanted to carry flowers.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could build a little camper back here, wherever you wanted, whatever you're in use case.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then throughout the machine, we're going to see rails down the side to pick it up, to tie things down with.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got rock rails.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got some real ground clearance, to tackle a rough road.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a very cool idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so if you're, let's say, delivering coffee beans, medical supplies, or whatever, in the most parts of the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this would be something that you would purchase.
[SPEAKER_01]: It would come in a big ol' crate, and then you would build it to your specifications, like the last 70%, now I've heard, I was saying to somebody, they said the model T came that way too, came in a crate.
[SPEAKER_01]: at some point and then you use the parts of the crate that they actually finished the model teeth back in the day.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that's true, somebody was telling that to me, let me know, feel free to fact check me, I did not fact check that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I really like this concept to me, obviously something more probably unlikely to see in the United States, but for markets around the globe that need really, really cheap, really, really durable, no nonsense transport that's basically four wheels and most of a seat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would say that this is kind of the next iteration of the K truck, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the Honda Acty from back in the day, and this is the most practical version of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, if you wanted to create a vehicle that is all platformer or all bed, then this is it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you like the color combination orange again?
[SPEAKER_01]: Orange is hot.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see more orange as we just walk around.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think Orange is kind of the new black literally right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're seeing iPhones coming orange and certainly Toyota is bringing a lot of orange to the table.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, let's walk over here to the Hatsu because we haven't really done much with the Hatsu, but they do have some interesting vehicles and of course the Hatsu is also, I think, either partially or totally owned by Toyota.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think of this little delivering vehicle?
[SPEAKER_02]: So Toyota is actually breaking up into a number of different brands, or I should say broken up.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Daihatsu at the bottom.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Toyota, which is their mainstream brand.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Lexus, which is their premium brand.
[SPEAKER_02]: GR now is its own sport brand.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we've got Centering, which we've talked about in the second.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this the midget?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what we're talking about?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is the original midget.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks almost like the, what's the Italian delivery little, three-wheeler?
[SPEAKER_01]: The opposite.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it looks like the Japanese version of the eight.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, which is the opposite Italian?
[SPEAKER_02]: Here in Japan, there's a classification of vehicle called the K-Harm, which is an ultra-lightweight, ultra-small, ultra-low-power vehicle, which is low taxes.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't need to prove you have a parking space for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's much easier to maneuver.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's kind of what that has to.
[SPEAKER_02]: specializes in so if we come on over here to this gray car this is a K car so it's very small it's very lightweight but it's also incredibly well engineered you want to show the doors on these cars yeah a sliding of course so stand next to it let's show him how tiny tiny tiny this is but if I get into it Tommy look how much room I have
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you know, it's amazing use of room.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have tons of head room, I have tons of me room.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have more room in here that I do in most second rows of most American cars.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because they're absolutely brilliant pieces of packaging.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now these are limited to 660 cc if I remember correctly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is likely a two or three solder, maybe a turbo.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there are ultra light weights, ultra practical, this is like a front row bench in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got a screen, it still has some modern amenities, but it's very cool on how it works.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then coming around to the back of this thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you can see it's called the Dajatsu Move.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is how little I know about the move.
[SPEAKER_02]: I gotta look at the badge.
[SPEAKER_02]: But these cars, not sold in the US, unlikely to ever be sold.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what's cool about K cars is they're not only little practical boxes over here are the sports car versions.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, the thing about the K cars is in Tokyo if you want to buy a car, you have to have a parking space fort unless you get a K car, in which case you don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the Dajatsu K open.
[SPEAKER_01]: A coping, I know, it's the look at space fort.
[SPEAKER_02]: plant worms.
[SPEAKER_01]: They carve it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is, I think this is actually the newest version of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: As you know, when we're here about a year ago, no, in the spring, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or is it the one we actually got to drive an older version of this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is the newest version.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty darn cool, Tommy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is the old one we actually drove right here.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the exact car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, look at this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Mr. Nv Engine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if this is like an electric.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, it has an engine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God, it's tiny.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's way down there, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's incredible.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, look at a low and kind of sucked down the window.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the original one and there's a new variable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this has been for sale for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the new version.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they also do other little kind of fun concepts here that that Hutsu stand.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, look at this.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got this little 80-bitty van.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that Hutsu is just their fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Quirky affordable brand here in Japan.
[SPEAKER_02]: They will never actually they try selling them in America Remember yeah, do you think we should go up there here?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but look are you worried about it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think people care that much about the copin dad.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, well we'll keep going There's a lot more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's hear we hit Lexus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright Lexus has a lot to show and actually see this up here so Lexus has a strategy of being now a complete lifestyle brand including aircraft boats, houses and of course cars so I actually did a video on this the jobie that they've partnered with a company called jobie which builds these uh they can see jobie which builds these uh drone like
[SPEAKER_01]: What would you call this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at the red and helicopter thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, where you can lift straight up and then you go vertical, vertical, take off vehicles.
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, this is probably more interesting to a lot of people now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're looking at what is the future LFA Tommy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Allegedly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Allegedly, potentially.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is something called the Lexus Sports Concept.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what we're looking at here is a low-slung wide 2-door front-engine sports car that does have very elephant-like proportions with a little bit of motherati sprinkled in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a concept that actually debuted back in Monterey, but this is a more finished variant of what you saw back in California.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they actually have the interior now, and once again you'll know in the interior.
[SPEAKER_01]: the driver and the passenger could very different interior.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the big thing we're seeing, it's a big trend at Tokyo here, are mismatched driver and passenger seats.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there you can see that the driver's white, the passenger is kind of this black material.
[SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes the designs are different as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now when you saw the stat, it didn't have an interior in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now it does.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is easily for me the highlight of the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: It makes it interesting, of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: It what makes me think this is the next LFA, is that we're here in Japan, where people drive in the right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But look at what's inside the steering.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Yolk is on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, left.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it looks like a pretty complete interior.
[SPEAKER_02]: The coolest part is actually these vents in the door, the speaker grills, mesh into the speaker grills on the dash.
[SPEAKER_02]: They kind of do this cool little,
[SPEAKER_02]: Mesh thing when they close, but this is a very, very attractive car.
[SPEAKER_02]: Show the pedals a beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, I love that white finish.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, look at the pedals, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's interesting, only two, not a, not a stick.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you can see, like, good use of interior lighting, very organic forms and shape inside.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as we come around in the back, they made a big deal in design presentation about the functional arrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: So all of these little slets serve to keep the car on the ground,
[SPEAKER_02]: You would like the little drone that's sitting up there about that little one.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, this is really dumb So a lot of these Lexus concepts have a drone that deploy is out the back of the car So it'll follow you and you can film the outside perspective Well, you're on the track not on the road, so you can see yourself back some of these you see do have them for the road.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you need that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's AI and drone everything nowadays.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do love this car, Tommy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if this is the next and future LFA, I think that they're going to be so well with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I did see this originally in its sort of form because there was a ton of version at Goodwood.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it came back again with nothing to just kind of unveil it at Pebble Beach.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now here we have an interior.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this will be our will-going production.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's pretty damn gorgeous, except for the stupid joke.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the weird seating, I always feel weird that my seat were different from my pastures.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, well, then you can buy a car like that now.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't what's that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you name it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Think about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a one car to say, or you can get different color front and back seats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't know what is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll do it there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can get black and white.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is just colors.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is like shades.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think this one is colors.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the coral is different shaped.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, a couple of cool design queues are seeing across a lot of these modern Lexus is very square, light signature in the back, it's not just a light bar, it extends on these blades on either side of the car.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then just like the original LFA that had those triple exhaust pipes in the diffuser, a lot of these Lexus concepts now have a center mounted stop light that's also kind of that triangular shape.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very, very funky looking.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is one thing I hate about these cars, most of the new cops have to say and even about the production cars.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though the production cars are seen, don't have a rear window.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Polestar started this with the four.
[SPEAKER_01]: Getting rear windows, I hate that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you on that, and we'll see more of that now.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's something cool, and this probably will not make a good impression.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you've got this mirror outside of your mirror, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The underneath it is like a little L-shaped bracket.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is actually a functional arrow piece of design that routes air over it and into the little hole behind that little window and then out the back here.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I don't think that's going to make production.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, just don't see that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll learn more about the production version of this car.
[SPEAKER_02]: December of this year, I think December 5th is when we're supposed to get all the info.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I just love this design.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the haunches, hips, sister gorgeous car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think that Akio Toyota, of course, you know, is ahead of the board here, that said no more boring cars, and certainly isn't boring, Tommy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the car behind us is even less boring.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even less boring.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, this is apparently Akio's vision of modern luxury.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a...
[SPEAKER_02]: six wheel mini van.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is called the Lexus LS which used to stand for what time you luxury sedan.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the luxury sedan, let's just say the sedan is dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so now it's been replaced here in Japan by the van and when you think about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: what luxury means here, being in your own space, in Wisconsin, luxury, and serenity, and having a lot of space, which is also luxury here in Japan because it's such a very crowded city, then spaces are premium.
[SPEAKER_01]: So instead of doing a luxury sedan, why not do a luxury van?
[SPEAKER_01]: And this certainly expresses that.
[SPEAKER_01]: The reason it has these two little back wheels, instead of big,
[SPEAKER_01]: four wheels, you know, it's got two four small ones and two big ones is because the small ones open up more space in the back for more space for the occupants.
[SPEAKER_02]: So LS is now standing for luxury space instead of luxury today.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're re-envisioning what their flagship can be.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's interesting, you know, when we think many vans in the US, we think of Cheerios and kids in temper tantrums.
[SPEAKER_02]: But here in Asia, these are incredibly popular as these very high-end
[SPEAKER_02]: cars is the only way I can describe it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they have a car here called the Toyota L-Fard, which we've actually been driven in a bunch.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got these reclining second-row seats that slide in a massage and heat and cool you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lexus actually build currently in Japan a car called the LM that stands for luxury mover.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's got these incredible like 50 cinema displays in them crazy fold flat seats.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then this is now the new expression of what they can do with this van shape.
[SPEAKER_02]: I personally think there's a chance we're gonna see the Lexus LL luxury minivan in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, this is, this is, this is, this is aqueo passion project.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but do you think a luxury van will work in the states because they blow up in China?
[SPEAKER_02]: They blow up in Japan?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because they're not necessarily built for kids, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: The fan has always been equated with, you know, kids and families, and not being kind.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's been equated with being demasculated.
[SPEAKER_01]: The man, what's the word?
[SPEAKER_01]: Immaculating?
[SPEAKER_01]: Immaculated, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where it's been equated to.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's hard to take that narrative and change into something that's luxurious and comfortable and prestige is, by the way, what do you think of the spindle grill that's now done in the light form, instead of in grill form?
[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so they got rid of the grill, but they still have the spindle design that they've done with this LED panel in the front.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is just a huge vehicle, Tommy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is like, this is like the front end of a locomotive, it's at this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You say that, I'm not sure it's actually that big, because everything here in Japan looks huge compared to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, the reason I say it's big, because you can see how much, how much smaller, like the next car that we're going to look at is because of how much, these are the same three size little rotary, like rotissaries of the cars are sitting on, and this one hangs over both ends much more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, show me inside the cow, luxurious, that is the key throw taste.
[SPEAKER_02]: They look like an angel's chair, so you can see that this design is very driven by this bamboo slit motif.
[SPEAKER_02]: You see it across the side of the interior, you see it in the windows, but it's very airy open, and you can see because it doesn't have...
[SPEAKER_02]: conventional for wheels, it's got the four little rear wheels, the interior volume is positively enormous, but that second row of seats actually rotate back so you can kind of create a conversation lounge with people in the door.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: First, where?
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe nine is an ionic nine, what's the, what's the minivan, what's the No, no, not the minivan, the three row electric Hyundai or Kia.
[SPEAKER_02]: Evenine or ionic nine, but I don't think they rotate.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did in the concept.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, in the concept.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I saw it first.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's usually evenine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I saw it at the L.A.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Never came in the market.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we did the stuff we'll never happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this did happen in the US.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had Rotten, he sees it, which man.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the caravan, really, town and country, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: If he didn't get stolen, go get it with rotating streets.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, these are really flights of fancy, in a lot of ways, as concepts.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I'm just drenching you in cold water, but I've been doing this long enough to know that once again, a yo, of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: That this is never going to see production.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, with that attitude.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, with that attitude.
[SPEAKER_01]: It might.
[SPEAKER_01]: It will not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not in the US, but we might.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have some crazy cars here in Japan and in China.
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to show them the back end?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a chest of drawers back here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it's got this really funky cabinet that kind of extends out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then that folds up to close up to the rear.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I love actually one of the cool things Lexi's is doing here is a bringing a lot of wood, a lot of bamboo's into the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we can see that bamboo along the panels in the van and by the windows, we can see it on the trunk and things that bamboo is in.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, taste in the way that the interiors are designed.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of the natural materials that are found in Japan also make their way into the automotive world, which makes sense, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So should we go check out the one car I think might actually happen?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, let's make one might be.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's kind of come on over to the...
[SPEAKER_01]: Lexus LC coupe or LS coupe, excuse me, so the one thing I would tell you tell me is if you're listening to this as a podcast and you want to see this head on over to YouTube and just type in altifl.com or go to tfl.com or go to tfl.com on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can actually see these cars if you really want to see them because it's hard to describe because they are so different that a lot of ways.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now this one actually looks a lot like the current Lexus electric crossover.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got a little bit of BZ in it, but what we're looking at here is they call it a coupe.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely not a coupe.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very much a sleek,
[SPEAKER_02]: kind of low to the ground crossover, this is called the LS coupe concept by Lexus.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this was designed by the Kelti team, which is the Toyota Lexus California design team.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think this is the one that's probably the most likely to actually see reality.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things that of course became popular here because Japan has a much more aging population than we do, are basically tall,
[SPEAKER_01]: cars, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're not quite traditional American SUVs or crossovers, and they're not really cars in terms of the way that you think of a car, but imagine like a two-to-crown, where it's a tall crown, it's kind of this hybrid between car and crossovers, and this is very much represents that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're older and you have a hard time getting it out of the car, the story makes it sound lame.
[SPEAKER_01]: I get that, but that is thinking it's much easier for entry and exit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that's probably a pretty good description.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very sleek though, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And that spindle grill has been replaced on a lot of these cars by the spindle light patterns.
[SPEAKER_02]: So on either side of the car, it makes that little V where the string would go if you were operating a spindle.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I like, I really do like this new Lexus badge that they're bringing out on everything, which is just the word Lexus spelled out.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a luminity on the front end.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't know if there's no holes in this front grill, so it's probably all electric.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they haven't talked at all about power trains here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's now electrified.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anything is a dirty word, of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: So especially in America, so they're not talking about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you've got these doors that like double clamshells right that open up in both directions.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then once again, you use some really interesting materials.
[SPEAKER_01]: The cool thing about this one is making it easier to get an out of.
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll note that the right side bolster on the passenger, the one near the door actually retracts into the seats so that you can get your butt in there and then it comes back up.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that cool?
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I was talking to everybody on car-ish.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we have more cars with wooden floors?
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because carpets get dirty.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They listen to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's only wooden the back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at the front.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't quite got the whole whole thing done.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still tired of yokes and no door handles.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean you're tired of no door handles?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just tired of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the other cool thing about this car are the wheels.
[SPEAKER_01]: They actually light up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, did you see what's cool about it though?
[SPEAKER_02]: or they light up.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, there's another thing that's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually a carbon fiber skeleton within, there you go, you can see it on the camera, within like an arrow blade cover.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you drive along under certain light, you can see the skeleton, the spider of the carbon fiber has been around, and then you write about the built-in lights.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then once again, what happens when you curb that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then once again, this matching driver and passenger seats are really big thing that Lexus and Toyota are doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, if you look at the back, you see speakers in the back address, that's also becoming big now.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is another concept.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like to look at this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Ian and his design team at Calty did a great job.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is another car that has this kind of funky drawer system.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it doesn't have a conventional hatch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Instead, the whole butt of the car pulls out a little bit like the looser there actually.
[SPEAKER_02]: It extends outward and then that's where your stuff goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, talk about a high lift over though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then I don't think you're going to be able to see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Another drone stuck in this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's another drone.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's actually a little landing strip there inside the rear glass for the drone to land.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you can see there's that real triangular light in the back, similar to the LFA exhaust, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: They're continuing that.
[SPEAKER_02]: As a whole, I think they knocked this design out of the park, and it's the only one that seems like it might make it into reality.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if this were military car, that drone would be cool, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you could use it to... Yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a joy still awareness.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly right, but I'm not sure taking the kids to school.
[SPEAKER_02]: The drone's going to be a Realistically useful item.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's look at the goofyist thing here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate this thing too.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is also designed by Calte.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate this really.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what this is is a Personal mobility pot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, whenever you use the word mobility.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tapping out immediately.
[SPEAKER_01]: So mobility to me just sounds like one of those Woody Allen Pods from Sleeper.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's an old reference to a movie, but it takes all the stuff I love about a car.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that you can drive it, this is autonomous.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that you can use it as a performance vehicle, this gets you around town.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that, you know, it's beautiful, this is, I don't know what the hell this is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is cool looking.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I said it looks like a suitcase.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm also with you, I don't love hot wheels.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no pod hole you'll ever miss.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is funky.
[SPEAKER_02]: And look at the rear tail lights.
[SPEAKER_02]: Imagine you're going down the road.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what you're seeing front of you.
[SPEAKER_02]: You just like to think I got a trot.
[SPEAKER_02]: That'd be awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, you can't see out the sides.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you'd be terrified.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's on a miss?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you can't see out this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the computer is going to see out the side.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you want to see what's going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't need to see the accident.
[SPEAKER_02]: The accident happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm car-spotting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going through Tokyo.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at all the crazy cool cars here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can't see out the side of this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was interesting actually talking to Ian.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I was saying
[SPEAKER_02]: And the whole purpose of this?
[SPEAKER_02]: I have killed you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the whole purpose of this was designed a not-car.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, he told his team to design something and it doesn't look like a car, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He wanted them to throw away the rulebook, and this does.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's missing that I hate as a joke.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, does it need a joke, because it's a ton of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know this thing runs in your eyes?
[SPEAKER_02]: Does it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, actually, it has a good...
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got rear wheel steering.
[SPEAKER_02]: I also don't love it, but I do appreciate the choice and totally need it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine taking one of those, you know, pieces of luggage that you take on the plane and put in the overhead compartment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rollerboard.
[SPEAKER_01]: Get to Perion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rollerboard and putting a little vase in it and some funky lights and some bamboo.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you got here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then stepping two suitcases on the side and hiding wheels.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's funky.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's check out the last thing that Lexus has been up to.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a catamaran.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're also building boats now apparently or designing them.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a Lexus designed catamaran.
[SPEAKER_02]: Clearly it's just a concept because it's a little too small to really get comfortable on.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it is a beautiful kind of work of art.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if Lexi should be designing boats, but they've designed a cool one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah, it's a thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Imagine if this is what I want to do with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they'll give it to me, and I can make it remote control, because that would be super cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at that, imagine driving that around our pond at the ranch.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the model, not the real thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: The model, yeah, it'll be really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it is gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Lexus has really, they've taken some risks here and look, I know you don't like the little suitcase pod car.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is what the Japan mobility show is all about.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all about like super futuristic forward thinking.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not a boring show.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is about like pushing the bounds of what it means at the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be using that bucket again.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is why...
[SPEAKER_01]: Auto shows have died because no one wants to go see little pod things people want to see cool as cars and out of all the stuff that we've shown you guys so far the only one that is a real car
[SPEAKER_01]: is the Land Cruiser FC.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything else is just pure fantasy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Except for this right here, this 1967 crown.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a real car Tommy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Century.
[SPEAKER_02]: Century, sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is something really, really crazy that Toyota is doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: What the Toyota Century is, is a very high and prestigious model that has for a long time been sold only in Japan.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is an ultimate,
[SPEAKER_02]: showford vehicle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of a kick somebody's drunk in one of those old New Yorkers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's for the heads of companies, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: If you are the head of canon in the 1980s, you were driven around in the century.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but they built, so they built like three generations of these.
[SPEAKER_02]: They all look exactly the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're all very understated.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're all very quiet luxury.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they've really expensive.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't build many of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Toyota now,
[SPEAKER_02]: is going to keep building the century, not as a Toyota century, but as its own brand.
[SPEAKER_02]: So think of like, Hyundai used to build the Genesis, and now Genesis is its own thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Toyota used to build the century, the century is its own thing, but it's moving way up market.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and GR is its own thing now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and this is important because in a second it will show you the concept, which I think is coming to America, and it will be sold as a Lexus.
[SPEAKER_01]: Think of the Cadillac Celesteak.
[SPEAKER_01]: It won't be sold as a Lexus.
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be sold as a century in dealerships that are branded Lexus.
[SPEAKER_01]: Think of the Cadillet, it'll like, sell the steak.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think of the logo?
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like a farting chicken.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you keep saying that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they love that you call their phoenix a flashlight chicken.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Am I wrong?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it doesn't look like it's a phoenix.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the century, currently sold in Japan, while we're looking at here as a century SUV, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks very much like a colonel.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a very prestigious car here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this competes with, like, you said, the colonel, the bentega, if you're in Bentley, or old, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Now they're going after, like, British luxury.
[SPEAKER_01]: And these are really, really expensive.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this car starts, starts $200, $200,000.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's your pen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Realistically, though, you're going to be looking at probably $2,500.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you're going to look at the show me interior.
[SPEAKER_01]: expensive.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well it's very bespoke is what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're buying a century you can really speck it out exactly how you want it.
[SPEAKER_02]: This one is very pimped like you don't see a lot of pimped out centuries.
[SPEAKER_02]: This has got this kind of matte gray finish with an orange interior.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is very bentega but the idea of it or Colin and yeah, the idea is right this is for if you have made it in Japan and you want to maybe stick within your Japanese circle of trust.
[SPEAKER_02]: you buy a century and not a bit late and it's kind of a cool soul thing but Toyota saying no we're done with subtle we're bringing a century around the world well here's this one looks a little bit like a roll's voice of course yeah so this is the sedan this is the latest generation of centuries sedan well let's be clear these are cars you are driven in typically yeah you don't drive them
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is a GR centri.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I saw.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was at mean it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could take it around the racetrack.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, these are twin turbo V6 powered, but they're much bigger than anything Lexus builds.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even think they're on the same exact platform.
[SPEAKER_02]: That one's a plug and hybrid.
[SPEAKER_02]: This one's a standard twin turbo V6.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know what this looks like?
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like a Rolls Royce Ghost.
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like a Rolls Royce Phantom.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very old world money.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now, the one that might be coming to Alexis Dealer near you, here is the century.
[SPEAKER_01]: What would you call this as a pooch is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, it's kind of a, you know what this is.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the return of the personal luxury coupe.
[SPEAKER_02]: So back in the 1950s and 1960s, Cadillac Lincoln, Imperial, right, they all built these huge coups that were a show of status.
[SPEAKER_02]: And those kind of died with the Eldorado ETC in 2004 or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: But century is now trying to bring back that vibe with this coupe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's massive, it's also tall, see that?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got a really cool party trick that we're waiting for, all these people who are waiting for it to do something and we will show it to you as soon as it does it because it certainly does something unusual that I haven't seen a personal luxury coupe do now you can tell that in the front it does have a grill grill is actually so it feels like it's powered by a trail combustion and electricity.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go with like a 12 cylinder if you're going to be know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think probably there's a twin term of these six and the other car is probably these six.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't solve this for three or a thousand with a V6.
[SPEAKER_01]: So with that attitude?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, not with any attitude, it's not going to solve.
[SPEAKER_01]: The other unique thing about this, you'll see it in a second, is that this is actually a three-seater.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all right, so the passenger seat is in its own little cell sort of and then there's a driver and a seat behind a driver for the the peasants were operating the vehicle, but the passenger cell is bigger than even the most luxurious vans here in
[SPEAKER_02]: Japan, and the doors were still waiting for them to open, but they don't open like conventional doors, they don't open like suicide doors, they split in half and the front portion slides forward, the rear portion slides rearward, and then it reveals the entire occupant area for getting in and out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Feels like it's a dizzy ride you're waiting for, the giant shark to come jumping out of the water tummy.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, one thing which is interesting is this is very clearly a sporty design, but it's also tall.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is kind of like an SUV coupe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but first of all, the concept cars always have huge narrow, big little rubber on the side, big wheels.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, probably these are about 23, 24s.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is not going to come on the real car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would ride like, you know, ride like a gold cart.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go to not go go card, but there are probably like a gold card and then remember when the jaguar came out a couple years ago The project doubles euro and people hated it, but it had this basic same kind of Looked to it, so it had a long hood and it had kind of a short cabin.
[SPEAKER_01]: This kind of follows that now people love it because it's not a lecture Yeah, but
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean what I mean by that is not that the wheels are big but the ground clearance is big right this looks like you could take it down the Rubicon trail it's got so much ground clearance anyway I think it's an interesting concept the doors aren't doing their thing yeah we're to the organizers here at the century you may want to like you to leave an open or you know open them more often but
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever, whatever timing is happening here is not working with us very well If you always turn it, look at us you've waiting for the door to open Everybody's waiting Now, Dad, do you think there's a market for a $300,000 Japanese ultimate luxury car?
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's the electricity ship?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're really stuck on the Lexus dealer thing Yeah, it's the Lexus thing, those are nicer, golf courses, and they have their service centers It's very nice, they're very nice, they're about as nice as it gets But when you're buying
[SPEAKER_01]: 4,500,000, which this very well could be, then you want to experience like a Rolls Royce for a Bentley, right, where it's broken down.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to be there with the rest of the riff raft of her paying 80 to 120,000 for their cars, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to be with your kind.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're at the dealership for four hours, every 10 years.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, like, why doesn't matter what the dealer experience is?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because the dealer's even Lexus, even though they're great, they're still still.
[SPEAKER_01]: They never break, you never there.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're still like, hey, what kind of dude, today to get you in this?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, RX, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll build a little, could ban next to the Lexus dealers.
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll line it in, in the Lauren gold, and then they'll sell centuries ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the special salespeople, they're,
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's actually right, but I'm hoping that this is like a very bespoke concept, very bespoke design.
[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing that Lexus doesn't do, which is a problem, is they don't do anything that's unique or orderable, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: You get what you get, and you were saying something when we drove here, that the Lexus that you buy here is almost identical to the one that you buy in America, no matter what the model.
[SPEAKER_01]: except for the steering wheel, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's there in different sides of the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't know if, I mean, I mean, the money is made in these expensive cars with all the options, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Think of Porsche, paint, the sample, think of all of the...
[SPEAKER_01]: Up, up ticks you could do when you're buying a Rolls-Royce, you could put like the, you know, the constellation in the roof and that's where the real money is and so kind of a one-size-fits-all and their logo here is one of one right which makes it seem like they should have something that is very much original.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Toyota is pretty good at making money, so I bet they're considering all of these options.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you want to keep waiting here, should we keep going?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just disappointed that this is not opening up, but we'll keep going, I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can run back here if the thing actually opens up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, the second leave it'll open up, and that's how it works.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what are some of your highlights here?
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go this way, there's some band here and we'll get that there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bands.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, bands.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to see the interior, here's the way you can go look at it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Head on over to AltiaFault.com, where we get a video just on this vehicle on its own, and then you can see what the interior looks like, because the driver is definitely separated from the rest of the passenger's.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's pretty interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've got a bunch of shorts too if you don't have 15 minutes, 15 minutes to watch it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so let's come on over here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the Bilazio, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to wait for the founds to.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely interesting to know how popular vans are in Asia.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, look at these mobility vans.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, so we see these little concepts for upcoming futuristic vans that are built the whole, a lot of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're still waiting for the doors to open the door.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're very, very deep.
[SPEAKER_02]: battery would be battery to plug them.
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to show me these little wacky things?
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go in the front, let's show them a little wacky things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the other thing that Toyota's been doing a lot of here at the mobility show are these little like crab things, little wheelchair things, little ways to help people get around.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is my favorite one, the car for toddlers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you see this thing?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, let's see this little tad-for-cat I thought of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Both, little cute car.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I'm not sure what the market is for toddlers.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of people that have the toddler license to drive it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, that's a lot of unfiltered questions here.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is the Toyota Kid's Moby.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the idea is you put your kid in there
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you do?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: There what do you do?
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a kid go to school and it?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been watching those shows, the Japanese shows where they give money to the little time of the guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about that?
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about that?
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a tells you show here, or a little tiny guy is like five-year-old kids go by like sushi for their family.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now instead of, you know, walking, they can get in this thing and they can drive a time of this league.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to get smushed to the little corn.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's two and a half feet tall.
[SPEAKER_01]: Seven eleven and by sushi for the family.
[SPEAKER_02]: This little bubble thing?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here's some bike sickles that Toyota has built.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is called the Land Hopper.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can see it's a little foldable bike.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you want to show them the stuff at the front?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's going to the front.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will wrap this up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Boy, how do we get out of here?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I keep going.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't, don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's steps over here.
[SPEAKER_02]: The interesting thing about the Japan Mobility Show is they don't have a lot of vehicles that you said you can just go out and buy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of future forward things, but there's very few actual production models.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Toyota Lexus, they have an enormous line up of cars here in Japan.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the only ones that you can get into are the Land Cruiser over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you can't breath force here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the RAF 4s.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so these are the 3 RAF 4s.
[SPEAKER_02]: for sale, the new RAV4.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got, I think this one kind of looks like a woodland.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder what it's called here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Should we see?
[SPEAKER_02]: The Woodie, the Woodster.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not called wood.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, adventure.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's right here, Tommy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still called the adventure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why do they change it to woodmen in America?
[SPEAKER_01]: Woodland.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not wood-made, wood-linned, wood-linned.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, look at that, it's still called the adventure here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is the new RAF4, we just did our first driver of use of these over at TFLCard.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you want to check those out, that's where you can go.
[SPEAKER_02]: We also have a limited, and then a GR sport over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then of course, they inherited, this is what I wanted to show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, these guys, yeah, of course not working either.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a wheelchair concept, and then these little like pop things that can walk around.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, these aren't working either.
[SPEAKER_02]: What the heck?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then that thing over there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it looks like what it was called to stay on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Segway looks like a segway you can sit on.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were actually showing film.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, here it goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: This thing's doing something.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do appreciate the Toyota is embracing technology for folks that maybe have mobility challenges.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, seeing that one looks like a segway.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were actually playing tennis.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the way you can
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think we're playing tennis together?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they're one of the segway things.
[SPEAKER_01]: People are sitting and they're playing tennis.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how you pick up the ball, but oh, look, now it's doing something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Stand up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm waiting for these guys to stand up.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe these will stand up next.
[SPEAKER_01]: little spider things but our luck during this podcast is not been exactly a stellar but so first of all we'll turn to something and now this thing's doing something that we need to get these guys to stand up and do something oh you see that it like wow look at that thing go it does like a full tilt thing yeah you can play tennis you can serve
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think of the idea of the Japan Mobility Show?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a new thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mobility is the big word these days.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a new mobility.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why do you hate mobility?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like being stationary?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's like handy-tapable.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just, it says to me, it's not about the stuff along with my cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's about, you know, just movement versus like fun movement.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but your chair doesn't move and these are chairs that move.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So these are more exciting chairs.
[SPEAKER_01]: The word is two utilitarian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Takes all the passion out of my hobby,
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're not walking around.
[SPEAKER_01]: We show them their historics.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's go look at the last two and we'll call it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this is interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is a Toyota AA.
[SPEAKER_02]: 1936.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is their first ever model.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what's interesting about this?
[SPEAKER_02]: It was built during the war.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, prewar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at the name.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're a dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: Toyo da, exactly right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is the reproduction because there were none of these left.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then someone found one of these, kind of abandoned in Siberia, and now Toyota's restoring.
[SPEAKER_02]: He restored it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think this was the reproduction one they built.
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember right, they actually have one that they found that the finally restoring back to original.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's a sign here, Tommy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could read it.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is April 362, the first passenger model of the AA, and your right, I'll still body, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[SPEAKER_02]: fourteen hundred of these were made.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so there we have it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and to start out as a company that actually did fabrics.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly right.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a toy to loom from back in the day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe instead of yelling at me from my foot on there, they should get the century to open up.
[SPEAKER_01]: to say all right guys well thank you for joining us if you're listening to this and you want to see some of these things Where should they go tell me yeah all tfl.com that's the place to go we're a little jet lag so if I'm a little you know a little bit harsh to say it's just I've gone without sleep for the last two days tell me we are tfl Yeah, thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah What's your name
[SPEAKER_02]: But you're out, but it's, well, what do I do with a magazine?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sweet, very nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, thank you for watching us.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm from Bomb League.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, enjoy it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thank you for coming back.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll see you next time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: As always, it's Roman.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Tommy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what time are you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Real Roman V's.
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