[SPEAKER_02]: Boom, hello, everybody, and welcome back to five till midnight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully I caught the first few seconds of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyways, after a little bit of a internet and Twitter hiatus for me, I'm very, very happy to be back, especially with the lovely Monica Perez, who I've spoken to in years, very, very good to catch up with her.
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, it's good to catch up with my boys, Adam and Typo, which Luke and Sam were here, but they're busy doing the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm tested Sam.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so so proudless.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's good to see everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very, very good to be back.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we got to fill people in on what the fuck why we're on Monica's channel and out of her own.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a mess.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're suspended from YouTube for two weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just gave us a strike.
[SPEAKER_03]: Two weeks fucking strike.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a rumble.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have access to the rumble.
[SPEAKER_03]: Something I don't have access to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sam does.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sam went MIA.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know idea what the fuck Sam is.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we can't get the rumble.
[SPEAKER_03]: Monica's gracious enough to fucking help us out and throw us on her YouTube and rumble.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Monica, you're a hero.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for joining our show on your channel.
[SPEAKER_00]: My pleasure to be here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a long convoluted chain, but eventually we figured it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're as usual fashionably late, but I'm happy that we could all be here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know what the exact topics were for today, but one thing I did see that just dropped actually right before we went live was the Nick Funtez Tucker Carlson interview.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm kind of curious if everybody's thoughts on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have some thoughts, but what Monica, I'll let you take it away first.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm not a huge fan of Tucker Carlson, so I don't, you know, like, he's about as, I mean, he isn't in the CIA.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and I think I tend to think so.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like,
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't hear the thing, but I'll tell you why I don't listen to that stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's like Fed versus Fed.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how to care about what they're actually saying because I think what they've done is made, this is just what's happening right now is that they're, instead of the
[SPEAKER_00]: criticisms of things like, you know, immigration or the Gaza, you know, whatever, massacre, it's not a war.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: So bye.
[SPEAKER_00]: Having somebody who's like racist or says really obnoxious things or like use a lot of slurs and everything Which I think really discredits those arguments so when people get promoted and have that you know Represents the writer whatever I just figured their feds and I know yeah, I don't follow the blow-by-blow and I also think sometimes the blow-by-blow is there
[SPEAKER_00]: to keep you distracted from real issues like this no king's protest thing and they keep saying like we want democracy like democracy is not the answer and the king is not the problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is
[SPEAKER_00]: We want to restore the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and democracy is not the way to do that, so I just feel like real issues get muddled by these ideological or identity or whatever and I think both of those guys promote that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I want to do what you think.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a very criticism.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've long since said that like a lot of the Magoing pretty much everybody who can't paint for Trump in this last election was pretty much CIA.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you talk about Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, who else am I thinking about?
[SPEAKER_02]: Peter Field, a lot of these guys, pretty much RCA, Larry Elder, for example, who has a YouTube channel, it's directly linked with the epic times, which is funded through the National Diamondford Democracy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, it's pretty much like the Department of Justice first, the CIA in this election in Trump representing technocracy in the CIA where the Biden administration was more like the FBI and World Corporations.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of who you had battling it out in this last election, and
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that like Tucker also does have a place because I think they used to some elites in some regards where like the conversation, the concerns that you have of certain things are a lot more digestible for the average person, but I still think it's a
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fair to say that, like, hey, we should kind of question where it's coming from.
[SPEAKER_02]: And also very publicly lying about your dad's ties at CIA and saying that you didn't know when, like, all you have to do is Google Dick Carlson and you'll find out that it's like, yeah, like, I'm sorry, Tucker, I don't believe you for a minute that you didn't know your dad was in the CIA.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so like, this is very clearly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're definitely weaponizing truths.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they let people say true things and then
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then they throw it into a hopper with big foot and UFO and and then all of a sudden like my conspiracy theories I'm crazy because I'm conspiracy but I'm not like I don't it's this stuff is probably pretty well document The the big nickfuntist thing for me was always a J6 thing where he's like Never got brought in for questioning, you know and when people who is there They were like they identify people.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're key chains and arrested them.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like But he just gets a free pack.
[SPEAKER_03]: It does the make sense
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I believe he's explained that at one point or another, I could not give you the play by play, and I'm not even saying his play by plays legit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but I know that's been leveled out a lot, and I know there was a big push from Tucker Carlson and like, uh, Max Bluemanthall to really discredit him, and there were people legitimately getting paid to put out Fed Fuentez right after that, which,
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of get it, but I feel like there's probably a little more information out there that doesn't quite get all the attention that that initially did.
[SPEAKER_02]: So type, I feel like he even got to say a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: So why don't you take up some records as well?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, it's like a good, it's like a really good online story.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, this kid has been ostracized from the community for like ever.
[SPEAKER_04]: And somehow still has relevance and like came back even like I mean he's pretty big now like my my little cousins and my family will send me stuff about him and they're like hey what do you think about this guy and I'm like oh my god you're like you know a long time ago when I first came here was like I don't even really know who he was he was like on co c or whatever his streaming services like I don't use band on everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Tucker Carlson has always been like kind of a mainstream guy like my dad and like my grandparents and like aunt uncles they know him so it's kind of like cool in a way that for the
[SPEAKER_04]: political discourse, it's like the clash of generations in a way like Tucker Carlson representing a lot of boomers, but yeah, I mean, it's it's weird like I never thought this would happen, but but I do think that like Tucker Carlson is probably still connected to the CIA in some some way, I'm not exactly sure the whole story what what's really going on there, but it seems like
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of times, like judge-nap things out with like similar CIA type guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like there's almost like a fractional dispute that happened in the CIA.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't know if you wanna call them America firsts or more repolitical foreign policy, political realist versus like, neocons or something like, I'm not exactly sure what's going on, but there's different, like, definitely different factions of the CIA that are,
[SPEAKER_04]: kind of pro-Trump or more America first.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then there's other factions that are, you know, Neocon and still trying to
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, regime change every country that doesn't do exactly what we say.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know exactly what the makeup Tucker Carlson because sometimes I see him.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, I didn't think he'd ever say something like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And sometimes I'm like, okay, there it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the, you know, keeping the, I don't know what you cook.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, keep the people on the plantation.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like I hit or miss with them.
[SPEAKER_04]: And maybe maybe he's on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one thing that we're represented here and oh, we just almost, you know, they're fighting the good fight, like don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, me and Dave the camp kind of talked about this at once at one point and we said that like basically if Tucker is CIA, then I think his entire angle is to basically bring all the people in who are anti war and really get them kind of focused on the coming, you know, cold war and eventually halt war with China because that's kind of always been his angle.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just as soon as they start talking about China, it's so funny because like I can't square this with John Mirishama, where he says like the US should follow them in road doctrine and have our own sphere of influence and our sphere of security even, which is kind of like something that I'd Jeffrey Sachs has started to talk about recently, but though China can't be a major regional hegemon in their own continent, which to me,
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how you square that saying that like you should have had Germany over, you know, this hemisphere and Southern America and obviously North America, but China can't have, you know, a good China can't basically be the Hegemon over Taiwan, Japan and all of them and, you know, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can say the China's, you know, not the greatest democracy in the world, but once again, how can you say that we're supposed to have our sphere of influence, but another global superpower that has nox as well can't have their own sphere of influence to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've run a few of his books and I think it's just really just an ideological trapping that he has.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he honestly believes what he said.
[SPEAKER_01]: So right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And in the end of the day, I think it's that like,
[SPEAKER_04]: He believes if, like, America does not keep China down, then China will rise.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, in a lot of ways, I think the actions that America does actually helps China or you know, at least gives them the like they can go through and like actually, you know, make deals with other countries and maybe even even be hostile to America in ways because while I mean we're just constantly sanctioning them and like picking on them and bothering them and
[SPEAKER_04]: crashing them like our politicians to trash them all the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like you're it's almost like they're creating the devil that they're they're afraid of and the day.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's China is the right Russia
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, to a large degree.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and not that like a lot of the left wasn't bad on trying as well because like Joe Biden Which it's kind of bizarre for me to watch because one of the big reasons why I didn't want to support Trump this election And there were plenty of reasons, but one of them was is that he's surrounded by just people who are absolute maniacs when it comes to China like there
[SPEAKER_02]: Rubio, for example, and then Elbridge Colby, who's generally a little bit more dovish in a lot of areas, but I mean, he's explicitly called for a war with China over Taiwan.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, just people like that, but then you see Trump saying like, oh, not a very good relationship with G. I want to have lots of trade talks with G. Like it seems like he's kind of the most dovish one, but all the people around him, including JD Vance, Marco Rubio's
[SPEAKER_00]: kind of my white rock or they might agree to have a war, but I'm more afraid that they're going to invade Venezuela.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Trying to be China?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so they've moved a bunch of aircraft carriers down there just like as recently as yesterday and this kind of goes to my idea that Rubio's really calling the shots kind of like Jake Sullivan was for Joe Biden honestly I think Trump's mental capacity really isn't there I'm not saying he's as seen all Joe Biden.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Koch brothers are waiting on the edge of their bed wondering what Marco Rubio was going to do next.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is that what you're suggesting because that there's no way Rubio's calling the shot somebody's telling him what to do I don't need what he's calling the shots that it's it's all like a puppet regime Yeah, there's not me calling those shots, but probably nobody who's face is Right, he's gonna get the call from somebody and be like, oh, you're gonna be as well But like you could kind of see where a lot of this policy is being driven from because it's a lot focused around Rubio's
[SPEAKER_02]: his consistent interventionist beliefs over the last couple years there.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's this is going to say about all these things.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a big figure head.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's there for that thing and like Tucker.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that everybody's there for, you know, some people have a higher level of roles, but as far as media personalities, for example, I think it could easily just be one thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're there for one thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Tucker could be there for
[SPEAKER_00]: Warmongering China Jordan Peterson for, you know, just take the damn backs, you know, just every you get a lot of credibility and then and then that's that one thing like, well, you know, he was right on all this other stuff, so I'm gonna give my kid the bags like whatever, um, so whatever Rubio's I think
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I thought when they were looking at crews, he was born in Canada, which made him not qualified to be president, but he also had like Latin.
[SPEAKER_00]: whatever name and roots.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought he'd be the North American Union guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that didn't, you know, I feel like they put these people up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hillary, Trump, Cruz, and all of them, any one of them could win it would be fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: They set them all up for legitimacy issues.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's very important to keep us at each other's throats.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hillary had immigrant votes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Trump had the rush-a-gate thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cruz had was completely not qualified.
[SPEAKER_00]: God, strangely, not qualified.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Rubio would be somebody who's like Miami Cuban thing would make him ideally suited to kind of get this regional hegemony going restoring that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I agree with you like there's this the head hegemony thing and I think near-summer talks about that kind of stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, but yeah, they want to deny it of China.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know for at the stage where you could have a global, a true global hedgeer mount.
[SPEAKER_00]: It does not look like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think they even wanted it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they want to kind of divide it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they want like Russia and China, like kind of, I think the guys are want to divide up the spoils of the world and the, and the one thing if there is any disagreement at the top, the one thing is who gets the bulk of the chip, the chip money, the chip power.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where I think the issue is between other than that, like you look at COVID policy, everybody did it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, when when they chose Marco Rubio like his nickname in the Senate was the Secretary of Latin America So when they chose him to be the Secretary of State because there's all these like Latin countries that they love like a lot of them love Marco Rubio He was like their guy that they talked to communicated with
[SPEAKER_04]: And it was because he was from Latin America.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he just, I don't know, he might, I think he speaks Spanish on the earth.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was so funny when I was in Miami.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, he's actually, he's legitimately an anchor baby, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: His parents were like drug lord down in South America.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he comes here and he's now pushing for a gene change, which it's so funny to hear like pro Trump people who say immigration is the most important issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, licking the boot of a fucking anchor baby,
[SPEAKER_02]: who's trying to overthrow and regime change in the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Two out of three wives were immigrants.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't want to know.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're white.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel illegal immigrants because they help me.
[SPEAKER_00]: The legal immigrants are going to crab my kids out of.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're the call center Americans.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bob from Iowa.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're also talking to me on the highway.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're getting CDLs in California and just trash in the road.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you see that?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no one just happened like over a week.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was on drugs and just crashed right into a car that got pushed into the truck and just killed the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Real truckers are getting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's that, not Carlin?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, kind of.
[SPEAKER_03]: But more like a sew of like um, you know, like every president is like a bloodline back to like one king of England.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they say.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, it's that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like these guys are all in the club for a reason.
[SPEAKER_03]: And what's ever going to know the reason?
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like they're all controlled oppositions, both sides of the aisle doesn't fucking matter.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it just seems shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: funneling all extra all surplus wealth needs to funnel to the top, like, which is financial capitalism is an easy way to see that, but like, even tips.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I used to be a waitress for a long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I made a ton of my tons of cash.
[SPEAKER_00]: Other women who I worked with had like, or single moms, they could raise their kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when they started this thing where we don't want 15% tips we want to give them 15 dollars an hour and act like that was a favor that was just a way to make sure that no surplus well got to the people and I just feel like no matter who who you're
[SPEAKER_00]: dealing with, like, if there are a couple of factions at the top, they're all in complete agreement, there should be no surplus anywhere in the system, except at the very top, and the fewer the people at the top, know, which is the kind of thing that it's like a tournament, you know, at that in the end, they get to fewer and fewer people.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do, I feel like that's what this regionalization, which is kind of on plan.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, when I don't know what it was really obvious to me, but
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I just feel like they want to put the iron curtain back.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're just not ready for global hegemony, and they want, and they're worried that Russian China can compete in our sphere.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're like, let's just put the iron curtain back, so at least we have our sphere.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think like that's the biggest reason why they're so upset with Venezuela because there was recently they're like they made a list of demands and Venezuela was like okay fine well like cut ties with China well well like literally just like saying like hey we'll do anything you say just don't don't invade and like besides regime change like that's the only thing like we
[SPEAKER_04]: and they're like, yeah, that's not good enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like, yeah, we're going to be the fuck out of here.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, okay, you know, if you're an empire and you're going to go around flexing your power to get me, you want, it's like fine, you just avoid it a war.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're still going to get everything you want and it's still not good enough to these people.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like they need to go in to like toss around the third world country, just to show who's in charge or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have so much oil though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, actually Venezuela is the most or yeah, Venezuela has the most oil out of any country in the entire world to even more yeah even more than Saudi Arabia South Korea rich like Saudi rich
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the US doesn't allow them to trade these like they have them.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have so many brutal sanctions on them They're not allowed to trade it like a trade with China and then they get military weapons from Russia This is a train run.
[SPEAKER_03]: They get military from our military I don't know if they have those not not Venezuela, but what's the the bricks thing like Brazil Russia Brazil Russia India China
[SPEAKER_03]: and don't have it in this world.
[SPEAKER_02]: South Africa, yes, South Africa, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, like a lot of these countries that are in Bricks are also part of the Belt and Road initiative and Brazil and Venezuela have both recently become members of BRI as well as Bricks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a Lula down in Brazil was actually the host of the Bricks Summit this past year.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure we're threatened by that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so like bricks is a a trading cooperative rather than a like a military cooperative.
[SPEAKER_02]: So basically it's just like a lot of these countries basically coming together and having traded agreements, but you know, I think if the US continues to basically blow its wad on regime change wars, wars overall, then yeah, eventually bricks like
[SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of this tariff war is kind of sussin out whether or not bricks really has the capacity and like let's say China really has the capacity to operate without like a good flow of dollars because a lot of like Chinese assets and a lot of the Chinese economy requires dollar to nominate a dollar to nominate a debt.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, like a lot of the tariffs, if you're denying access to the U.S. markets through tariffs, then this is kind of testing the weather or not to see, you know, we can really sever this trade relationship between the U.S. and China, and if China's going to be able to say it itself without or nominate debt, I don't know what that looks like if it continues on.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I'm sorry to take up too much tariffs.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they, I was thinking about this, if they really, because I,
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll be convinced otherwise, but I feel like the trade stuff and the tariff stuff is all Bluster, it's not bluster, but it's it's for purpose other than what you see is what you get such as Establishing a new global trade agreement As a possibility getting all this little and excuse for all the little payola like the the Japanese deal was so crazy They agreed to it's good k-fade to say that again
[SPEAKER_02]: It's good K-Fabes and like it gives Trump a lot of good press because he gets to basically puff his chest out and say, Locke, I'm going to put tariffs on this country and then the country's generally bow because once again, they want access to dollars and armnade markets.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's something real in the Japan ones, so there's like five hundred billion dollars they're supposed to invest in the U.S. 400 billion of it is loans taken out from Japanese banks.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they are the ones who really got four hundred billion dollars.
[SPEAKER_00]: service imports for themselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think like with China, if you really care about trade with China, if you really want to change that balance there, I believe there heavily subsidized by our navy patrolling the Pacific.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we'd be able to get like $5 pounds of frozen shrimp from China if they had to pay the real cost of transportation.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like they really want to change that because I always think as a libertarian my first thing I think is what what policies in place are in place.
[SPEAKER_00]: that are causing the problem if you remove that policy.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, another big one is worse for oil greatly subsidizes the cost of oil for everybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just feel like if they were serious about the actual we want to change the balance of trade, they could do it by just withdrawing support of global trade, that's costing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm slightly off topic with kind of on top of like world powers and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I watched this movie in Netflix another day called Hasidine and my terrible movie don't watch it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's so bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was so bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the whole premise of the movie was like a lone ICBM was launched at the US and the whole movie like they don't know from who they never tell you from who
[SPEAKER_03]: But I learned that we don't really have a good deterrent for the ICBMs, like, we don't have an iron dome.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I looked into it, do you have like, GBIs?
[SPEAKER_00]: What happened to Star Wars?
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought Rating gave a Star Wars.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nope, uh, turns out we have about 50 GBIs with the ground-based interceptor missiles, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: And they have like this kill payload and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's only a 55% chance of stopping it.
[SPEAKER_03]: true and we have nothing so if they launch more than one they launch one we're probably fucked they launch more than one we're 100% fucked that's why it was the whole uh uh mutually started destruction thing because like we can't stop it but we'll just dominate whoever also launch it but like we can't stop shit I thought we were way better than that and we're not guys you guys agree with that you think that's true
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I generally do because like it's been it's widely known now.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I don't know, talking to the Asher guy or Ashton guy, maybe start to think a little bit different because about that Malaysian flight that like disappeared.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, but generally knowledge about this that I know is that Reagan was like faking the Star Wars technology trying to get open up Gorbachev to this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I remember that, but I figured it came, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I can't stop like, I see VMs though, like Israel, like they could just stop like those little rockets and shit like apparently nobody in the world could like stop a bunch of IBM.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I looked, I wasn't just, this is like, I can't find the movie and I was like, that can't sound right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So are we giving ICBMs to Ukraine?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, yes, yeah, they came out with like their new one.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, I think they called it their hypersonic.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and this is this is after Bush ripped up their missile agreement that we have was Russia.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've got the name of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like in 2008 or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now supposedly he did it because he the agreement basically meant that Russia or US are the only ones that had to follow this agreement But the worry that Bush had was like Iran was gonna develop some sort of bomb and that's why he ripped it up
[SPEAKER_04]: And but anyways, after that though, then we kept pushing NATO and this was a big deal of rush.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so they started developing even better missiles that would like it's even faster.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so like I think the response time at least when we're I remember is like less than five minutes now if they fire a missile.
[SPEAKER_04]: like we're falling you have five you have five minutes to decide if that's legit or not yeah it's like I mean I'm sure the radars are way better than they were but at one point time
[SPEAKER_04]: There was like lots of balls, like, like, like, full, uh, I don't know if I was flagged, but false, false, like, positive, and false.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like, it was literally just guys on the Soviet Union and guys in the US just deciding not to respond.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's a big story.
[SPEAKER_04]: It could be a fake and we don't want to, like, actually start a nuclear war because we think someone's dead on us.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Russian one was the big one, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that one guy was like, oh, fuck.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it turned like it was like a false positive and he decided not to launch and like good call because we would have been Yeah, well, there was actually agreements that they we would give each other radar systems.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we would know better if each other was shooting at each other.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we wouldn't have this like scared moment where like I need to respond
[SPEAKER_04]: but it could be fake.
[SPEAKER_04]: Are we going to die?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it's just like it's so crazy that like what was happening in the movie by the way, the Miss La Trago, sorry type of.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you guys see fail safe?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was um, it was made at the same time as Dr.
[SPEAKER_00]: Strange Love.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was, it was like Dr.
[SPEAKER_00]: Strange Love, but it was a serious drama movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was first.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the studio that did Dr.
[SPEAKER_00]: Strange Love
[SPEAKER_00]: The studio that did fail-save and held fail-save back until after Dr.
[SPEAKER_00]: Strange love if I'm not mistaken.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the fail-save one was super scary because it was that exact situation.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I went out of whole rabbit hole last night just like just doing actual research on it like oh fuck man We don't have shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: No one does apparently.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like we only have like 50 Jesus guys So what is Israel have like what is the iron dome?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's for like just rockets and shit Yeah, it's not a fast or like a hypers like they can't stop a hypersonic They can't stop an ICBM they can't stop any of that shit So they go all just like kind of around based rockets stuff that they blow up
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, recently they were talking up their iron dome all that, but I think I ran actually kind of show that their iron dome has flaws, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you flood it with missiles, they were striking buildings in Israel all the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like, they're uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So actually, we're seven times for real.
[SPEAKER_03]: Such a rabbit hole.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was crazy last night.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you hate lighters, you know, that's that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also apparently like, if there was a real launch, like, let's say Russia was like, fuck it one day and they just sent over like 50.
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of those will also be fake warheads.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we wouldn't even, so even we hit the right, even we didn't even expect them to get out of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we do it too.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like we don't do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's so smart.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's fucking, I went down to the rabbit hole.
[SPEAKER_03]: They got shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're so funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we haven't.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they're like, well, in the end of the 2020s, we're going to get to like 60 DBIs with better technology, like great.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's still not.
[SPEAKER_04]: So let me say the next war is going to be like in space or they talk about this but what is what is that you don't need it you can just launch missiles it doesn't matter I think that's actually kind of true in a way, but that's why like so
[SPEAKER_04]: if you like some people make the argument I don't know how true this is but the space race wasn't like, you know, to better the exploration like what's going on?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, true.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's better.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fake.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's literally trying to brace the space because they they were predicting that we're going to like fight those in space.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like this is what they thought was going to happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, there's somewhat true.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, those satellites that have up there.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, the satellites have like incredible rate, like satellite imagery, it's basically massive spying.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can do on someone just from like, dude, I was only like a low level intel guy in the Marine Corps and the satellites that I was they showed us, I was like, oh my god, you can like zoom in on like someone's like license plate.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a crazy dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: Raise you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it isn't really like... Crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's really... Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that was around 2012.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, I don't know what they have now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's the theory I always heard where it's like, whatever they show you, we actually have a 50 to 80 years on that tech.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I heard that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also heard, and this is a good conspiracy topic.
[SPEAKER_03]: We had the technology for flat screen TVs in the 50s.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like someone invented it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the government came with like, that's hours now.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we didn't get it against the 90s.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And why would it's like oil?
[SPEAKER_00]: If you have a lot of oil in the ground, you don't just suck it all out and sell it immediately.
[SPEAKER_00]: a parse it out to how it's just to make sure you get the most money, otherwise you just flood the market.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not sell all TVs that you can sell for now and save that for the next thing?
[SPEAKER_00]: But of course, that would make a restraint of competition.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that wasn't always true for us, unless like the people had that technology were simply the people at the top.
[SPEAKER_00]: But now that we
[SPEAKER_00]: We're more and more eliminating the little guy and erecting barriers to entry, you can have that kind of control.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, rake it was on a phone and therefore it's one in like the 80s by the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, it was on a phone in this car.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, what the fuck happened?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, how did that?
[SPEAKER_03]: How is that possible?
[SPEAKER_04]: Nixon was on the phone talking to some guy on the moon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which I don't like.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, he wasn't on the moon.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's he?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is he in California?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no delay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: No delay.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's conversation.
[SPEAKER_00]: We all on the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we all on the same page of the movie, I think it was bullshit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see how I don't know how I I didn't take any pictures of the stars while they were up there.
[SPEAKER_03]: That would have been interesting Yeah, well the the excuse behind that is like well, there's no atmosphere.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, so what if the stars be more prevalent?
[SPEAKER_03]: Just a little like and who took the pictures like from the ground who took the fucking who took the video of the fucking Capsicum back to the shuttle?
[SPEAKER_00]: I Just don't believe that they like you know got I I would believe that they got on the moon, but I don't see how they got off the moon again
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then also all the things around it where it's like, you know, oh, we lost technology.
[SPEAKER_03]: Go back.
[SPEAKER_03]: We recorded over the original moonland.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how it be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, my gosh.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Benson.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: We, we, we, we, we, we take it over with Fraser.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, it's like, it's like, you think that'd be the, this is the biggest mankind achievement ever.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we just taped over it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they hardly talk about it anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it had a 50th anniversary.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, there's also NASA just blatantly admits to the like doctor photos all the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, all the Mars rover landing thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what's going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Island.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever seen Devon Island?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can literally overlay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even funnier is when they first released those pictures, they're like, why's in there red tint?
[SPEAKER_03]: And then all of a sudden throughout the years, they sort of adding a red tint to all the pictures.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like in the sky and on the ground next to the ocean, not that retarded, it's, you know, it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: They admit that they do all their practices on Devon Island.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're just like, it's amazing how identical it is tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like that's the lucky.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't buy it for a second.
[SPEAKER_03]: My dad's pretty based when it comes like a lot of stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he's still on the moon shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: he believes that and the man is not well he probably didn't see it he's definitely did he was like he was watching a lot he was like 30-15 where you can't do that to people they can't handle it yeah but like again he's pretty good with everything but like that is something that he's we just get into it all not like for real but yeah we'll will send me articles and like this is bullshit stop sending me this on the behind your only thing my mother
[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't believe so she actually thought I everything's fake with you, and then when Trump was like fake news At-spake news like then she was all that fake news Yeah, one thing she would not she's like Dianna saw as a just too big
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: We did this.
[SPEAKER_03]: We did this in our Patreon.
[SPEAKER_03]: If we were to listen and go to our Patreon, Patreon.com, so I talked about them in night.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kyle's a big dinosaur guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I had a break.
[SPEAKER_03]: We did a whole episode of like how dinosaurs were going to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to look into it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you go to the US National History Museum online.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a American National History.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like front page, it says we have no bones whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_00]: all of the bones are just bone-shaped rocks made of the same rock that was next to the bones.
[SPEAKER_00]: How did you know what the bone shape was?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you look at a tree, a petrified tree, like it doesn't look like a tree.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like full of emeralds and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can see, it's got quarts, and it identifies it, isn't tree-looking rocks?
[SPEAKER_00]: That really looks like, so,
[SPEAKER_00]: How did they know?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, we chip it away and like you're just guessing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even that it's just it's really just clay the ones that you're seeing aren't even bad
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, they're just molds of what they think.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like like, like, like like, like like, like like, like like, like like, like like, like like, like like, like like, like like
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they, um, I think that the bones are, like I think they're willy, willy, willy mammoths are real, they're frozen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a baby one, like full intact, give you one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, and it's only like one million years ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's when you get to 250 million years, just cells are just not nothing's going to survive that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think they have mammoth bones.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they have a lot of bones of big things and little things and birds and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they just say it's something that it absolutely possibly can't bear.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a funny thing that's a belief in the dinosaurs.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when you look at it from that perspective, you're like, this is for kids.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Kyle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying, man, I don't think the entire I don't think the entire I.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you'd have to bullshit a lot to have an entire field of paleontology be all bullshit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying it's impossible.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying it.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't, I agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's all bullshit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think T-Rex is ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's tiny arms crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I mean, what was he doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they show pictures of him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's bigger than you.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, what is his dream?
[SPEAKER_03]: Then it went from that and then it goes to, well, he was a scavenger.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, so why is it to be that big?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that kind of doesn't, it doesn't make sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: Both of us aren't that big.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're scavengers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, there probably is like a lot of fluff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what do I want to say, like propaganda?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it's necessarily word surrounding dinosaurs, but I definitely believe they're probably more like reptilian creatures that look unrecognizable to reptilian creatures that we have on the world, you know, on the planet today.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you look at like sharks and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, make a lot of dirt.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's real, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, probably.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have like this all of it looks real to me
[SPEAKER_02]: We also don't know if that we just never saw it like that there could still be like Magdalene on running around that we just have never seen I threw it up last second dude, what are you going to fucking do?
[SPEAKER_00]: You were so mad for that thumbnail.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why is it we need something?
[SPEAKER_03]: We just had nothing and I don't I didn't know what we're going to talk about so I just I had a throw something up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, thanks for joining this week.
[SPEAKER_00]: The big one does probably real.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, can I get finished what you're going to say?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what I'm going to say.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just going to say the other thing is like the Smithsonian has a lot of lore around it too.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're like they're like the only like museum that like isn't open to like, uh, at its fuck.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're only looking for like they can't get like a checked on I can't think of the word for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you all it.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't get audited by the government like they're like completely separate from all their museums like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also the whole Nephilim and giant bones is a is very questioning around it like you've heard plenty of stories of people saying like we found giant.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've heard that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have the forbidden history book.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a lot of that stuff, a forbidden archeology.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because that goes against a lot of what we're doing, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm reading a book called Who We Are and how we got here.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's interesting because it talks about like, neanderthals and dennesovins.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's like, we don't have like a tree.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's this interwoven thing because I kind of really don't believe in evolution.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Darwinian evolution is absolutely not true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is true because he was that one again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Darwin was wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lamark is right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Darwin said some random bird is born with long peak.
[SPEAKER_00]: All the other birds die and only he, his descendants.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just it's mathematically impossible his way.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what Lamark said and I think this is probably how it works is
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know exactly what he said, but this is him and epigenetics, whatever it all works together.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have tons and tons of genetic material and it all mutations I could ever happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: They happen and then they just get stored there and on some level and this is the mystery.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is why they don't like it because you could put God in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: right there's some subcellular intelligence that will say oh let's use that and then it'll turn it on for your baby because it sees the world needs that and that baby is going to now give it to its baby like that and a guy named Philip Camer proved it in 1925 and then was like committed suicide with two bullets in the back of his head and a pack suit case and take it
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, so those things go like whatever human history is not exactly what you think.
[SPEAKER_00]: But one thing that really blows my mind is that whales and dolphins are mammals.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they have hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: They went back into the water.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's hard to deny that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you wouldn't know what that was home.
[SPEAKER_03]: that like knee joints, like if you look at a uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, look, look at their, look at their skeletons in their, in their fence.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have, like, individual.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're hands.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have hands.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's wild.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I, again, I'm a Catholic.
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe in, in, in God and stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do I believe in Adam and Eve, like, street up?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, years ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think that was the agricultural revolution.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we were like, because it actually is consistent in time 10,000 years ago where there's a book by James Scott has a yell guy called against the grain where he says that we all knew for years and years like 4,000 years had to make things grow.
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't like plant shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: We would just pull the weeds out and then sit around and do nothing, which is whatever everybody really wants to do and eat strawberries and whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then there was some, I don't know what, somehow, government, some strong man or whatever came around and like the advent of slavery taxation and grain growing all happened around the same time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was 10,000 years ago, which happens to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: the time, you know, if you go back in the Bible with the Martin of Eden would say so you could say like why you had to work from the sweat of your brow all of a sudden and I just I don't know if that's what I think is so I know as Catholics were probably not supposed to consider it to be metaphorical what I think you can if you want to I certainly don't have to think of time as a year to your think is like what are you day like a thousand years.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, what we don't know what it really means, right when he's when God created their seven day seven days could be 14 billion years right who the fuck knows but like I Here's my thing with that I mean, so what do we all be like related?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right because if there was two humans Yeah, kids and they would oh totally and then they said well You they lived a thousand years back then so now like that's why we're messed up, but didn't can't enable like go out and find wives Oh, but the can't was way after Adam need right
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they were their kids.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: You weren't those boys come from, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right,
[SPEAKER_04]: Good point.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, didn't those kids go and find wives?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where it would have been.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it would have been like I'd apparently the Flood didn't kill everyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, I'll tonight make you mad because I think T-Rex looks Yeah, he's over.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's writing you in his death note.
[SPEAKER_03]: You talk.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, oh, we got you to like her.
[SPEAKER_00]: She sucks The moon landing and the T-Rex like
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have some people talk about it, but yeah, like the whole, uh, what without not the Browna source, but the one with the long ass neck about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it, just made up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're on the first picture on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, how they made that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like to keep eating paleontologists made up of Browna source.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a real thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you never even dinosaurs were real.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's sure is fucking real.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we can put T-Rex in there too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I would let that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also don't believe oil came from dead diet.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think oil is a naturally producing thing in the earth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and you know how I think that too, why I think that because we're, do you not remember being taught this so I may, I'm older than you so maybe they stopped teaching it this way, but I was taught that oil, coal, and diamonds were all the same thing, carbon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Carbon, yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that it just depends on the amount of pressure it was under, okay, and that all carbon derives from life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you ever hear that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Anything that was made of carbon came to something that was alive?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, they say we're carbon, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we're definitely all the life is carbon.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're carbon-based life.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that anything that you find that's made of carbon used to be something that was alive, which is kind of circuitry, just there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, but here's the punchline.
[SPEAKER_00]: Diamonds are created at least, I mean, miles under the earth way deeper than life could have sunk.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when the fixation on carbon there, I don't know why I just maybe think of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how much people know about cars, but obviously some mechanic kind of quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: But a carbon when it's cold, like the byproducts from combustion that you would see like an engine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Carbon actually soaks up fuel whenever it's cold.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you actually spray gasoline on carbon like build up on like the back of a back face of an engine valve, it'll actually suck up the gasoline.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what, and what does that mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: So basically like whenever your engine goes to fire, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You have a little fuel injector, at least this is the way that it used to be up until probably about 10 years ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: The injector would open up, which would spray fuel at the intake valve and the intake valve would go down.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the fuel gets sucked in the salt, and they're whenever the,
[SPEAKER_02]: and take care of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the intake strength, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what would happen is that just over time from the engine running and byproducts from combustion, they would actually cover the back face of the intake and exhaust valves with carbon, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So now, whenever the engine's cold, when you're gonna do a cold start, that fuel, instead of making it into the cylinder, which gets soaked up by the carbon because of the carbon, when it's cold, tends to soak up fuel.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like on newer vehicles.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really, it's carbon now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, gasoline's different than like the carbon on the back face of the valve carbon is like we're talking about like bug products from combustion.
[SPEAKER_02]: So basically like hydrocarbons.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, what are they all supposedly biological in origin?
[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't that the story that we're told?
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what I was told.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So everything that we're talking about had to have come from, I wouldn't say dinosaurs, but I would say algae, like on the bottom of the ocean, but diamonds are from 100 miles down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, those diamond mines they dig are like, mole super deep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's see if you can guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: Halloworth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, she's all in my mouth, Steve.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am kind of curious of like, I'm sure you guys are aware of like the more solid shell bed, which is basically like a shell bed that goes from around like, I think the southwestern corner of Pennsylvania all across like most part of the northeastern part of the United States.
[SPEAKER_02]: How deep is that?
[SPEAKER_02]: like I don't know how deep that is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've done I did research paper on it in college, but I don't know actually like how deep and low the earth's surface that actually is.
[SPEAKER_02]: No idea because on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is it called?
[SPEAKER_02]: The Marcellus shale bed.
[SPEAKER_04]: I could be wrong about this, but I think like the surface of the earth only fluctuates like 11 miles.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, like from it's 9,000 feet.
[SPEAKER_00]: So with that, that seems like I feel like as deep as the ocean, I'll accept that, even twice as deep.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like if the ocean is just this constant, millions and millions, hundreds and millions of years of algae just floating down, dying, floating down, dying, floating down, and that's how oil is formed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay with that, but it's 100 miles deep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't, I mean, I would like, look at the crust of the earth, like how thick is the crust of the earth?
[SPEAKER_03]: How deep is the Marianna trench?
[SPEAKER_00]: The ocean is 11 miles deep.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the best.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's the Marianna Trent rest of the deepest part of the ocean.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Miles is crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's so fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was in the Pacific in the Navy and during World War II.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, yes, I'm the youngest of nine.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was very old.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but he said he remembers being over 11 miles.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he remembers torpedoes like going underneath and like,
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like if you, if we get snarved to your, I hope I die, I think I'd rather I think I'd rather be storming the beaches than be on a boat and chopped by torpedoes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you ever see the picture of it shows, it says the depth of the ocean and the very bottom is like they have a little thing of cathulu down at the very bottom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love that picture.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that also, we got to wrap it up because my guy had to go, but like that also goes show you like we don't know what the fuck is down there, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we can only go even hours, some merciful's going to go so far.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or it's like, so it's 11 clicks.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's only seven miles.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought one click was a mile.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, 11 kilometers and it is 6.8 miles,
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it was nine miles.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but, um, but yes, so that makes it even more unbelievable that carbon could possibly reach a hundred miles below the surface of the earth that was made of dinosaurs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, I know I do rail to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: You wanted to talk about current events.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to talk to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, this is actually nervous.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is this is our show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel so bad like Kyle gonna hate me.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's all right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He tried to shake my faith and die.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm working hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's over the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a dinosaurs.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't break my heart on this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to sort of stuff all over the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's wrap it up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he will be hearing it for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you wrap it up then I'll end it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, no tell where we could find you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, sure.
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