[SPEAKER_01]: I got stuff for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Holy moly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to get some snakes and release them around my house.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I love eat people.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love eat kids.
[SPEAKER_04]: These guys are the scientists of the supernatural.
[SPEAKER_04]: Lecturers leaving lessons for inquiring laymen.
[SPEAKER_04]: They are applying the scientific method to a world that baffle signs.
[SPEAKER_04]: They are the cryptids of the core.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every day, you open your mouth.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm more convinced that you're a child.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it just stood up.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it just kept going.
[SPEAKER_04]: And go on.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she goes, what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_01]: These are idiots.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was laughing reading this, because I already knew how you would feel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Idiot!
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the story?
[SPEAKER_03]: Fits your balloon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this isn't a UFO.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he also has big black wings and red eyes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Batman.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, mock man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, mock man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, everyone, I think we know it's exactly what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, say it all with me.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a sand bill crane.
[SPEAKER_03]: Would you try it?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, you wouldn't need it?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, why?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they're probably toxic.
[SPEAKER_03]: There'd be a lot of poop in my face.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen a six-foot alligator go swimming through the air and slam into a tree.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh!
[SPEAKER_01]: Still spooky in here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Still spooky.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm the great and scary mystery.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm Jakeland 40.
[SPEAKER_03]: We had a spooky episode for you on Monday.
[SPEAKER_03]: But today is a scary Wednesday episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-uh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wicked Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's the worst day of monsters lurking around every corner.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now we're going to talk about, because you alluded to it later in the week, even though it hasn't come out yet, we're going to talk about the real life tremors monster.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you mean when I talked about it on Friday coming up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you excited?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you ready?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like an inception of foreshadowing.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Argoro or Agarino?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Agar?
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Agarino.
[SPEAKER_03]: Algarino.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a legendary creature that it comes from folk tales and lumberjack and in modern day ranching communities in the western United States.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh oh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like tremors.
[SPEAKER_03]: The tale of Argarino described as a subterranean creature that inhabits the drier regions of the Colorado and other deserts.
[SPEAKER_03]: According to the legends, the Argarino requires a dry environmental survive.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it'll bore holes into dams and irrigation ditches to let the water out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, but it needs to dry regions.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was trying to dry out the area because people are watering it and got you to grow stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this creature is like, I know you're destroying my home.
[SPEAKER_03]: the argorino is described as a giant terrifying worm that burrows deep underground.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, unlike the monsters from tremors, the argorino is said to have been a shaped, like a corkscrew or an auger, hence the name, that would make more sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, where it's either it's head is designed like that or it's whole body is designed like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of the drawings I see of it give it a more hard worm body with this bone or carapace like shell face.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does it have like a scorch corkscrew spy or run it on it or no, just it's head just the head does okay, which the head seems to be hard to material and the rest of the body seems to be more warm like me need to have to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, even with the gravel leads the way they had a beak, the way they moved through, yeah, I had to do something that carved through because so the gravel leads they excreted acid on their beaks and used their basically their hooks to push themselves quickly through.
[SPEAKER_03]: So gravel leads in dig they melted technically.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that's where the dirt went.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's always one of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where's the dirt?
[SPEAKER_03]: They explained it in Roboids, or a trimmer's too.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did.
[SPEAKER_01]: They see that's what the short ones do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or that's the short ones.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the little thermal, the screechers, the screechers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they look, they got the flare vision.
[SPEAKER_03]: They get between 3 and 10 in the part of the Roboids life cycle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, they burst out of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember at least.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I know, I've watched all the grabboids all the way up to the grabboids nine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Trimmers, trimmers, trimmers nine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ice grabboids.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, but yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So despite the lack of concrete Evan, oh, sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's described as being a giant terrifying worm, like I said, as a corkscrew body.
[SPEAKER_03]: Although it's a existence has never been proven, some people to this day still believe it's creature actually exist in some form.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lumberjack's found many, many holes drilled in their dams.
[SPEAKER_03]: when they were starting to come up dry.
[SPEAKER_03]: We were amazed.
[SPEAKER_03]: It looked like somebody had taken an auger and drilled into their dams that they'd used to make waterflames.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that weird?
[SPEAKER_01]: A kind of, I mean, but it could also just be people with drills, drilling holes in their dams.
[SPEAKER_03]: Keep mine.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is way before like electric, there's a hand crank drill.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you're standing underneath a wood dam drilling holes into it.
[SPEAKER_03]: How old was this?
[SPEAKER_03]: Roughly?
[SPEAKER_03]: This was the 1800s.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but it still exists in a modern day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: It still exists in a modern day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, so yeah, then so they believed our, our agrino was, you know, responsible for these damages.
[SPEAKER_03]: But despite the lack of concrete evidence, the legend of agrino continues into popo-topic recession among its interest.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some people believe agrino still exist in areas today, and remote wilderness areas of Colorado.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, others just missed the creature as nothing more than a tall tail from a time passed.
[SPEAKER_03]: regardless of whether the arguerino is real or not the ledger than the mythical creature is sure to continue to fascinate people for years to come.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, the arguerino, like I already said, it's from the folk tales, it started in lumberjack, but it's still talked about today and ranching communities.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they use these aqueduct systems.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're not technically aqueduct, but they use these like flow systems with wooden dams because you have to have water turns.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And with water keys and stuff like that, there's a water master.
[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, people are allotted so much water to use.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they have, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that it's how they control it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They flow it through these troughs basically that they have wooden boards set up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ditches and dams.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they can block them off to divert the water to their property, or to the neighbors who ever has access to it at the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, so even in those modern day dams, there are still holes that look like their perfect drill marks being poked in these things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Astroids.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The first record of the legend dates back to the early, aren't sorry, the late 19th century.
[SPEAKER_03]: When lumberjacks and Colorado reported and finding their dams and other structures coming up dry, upon close examination a series of long, straight bore holes were found throughout the make shafts or the make shift structures.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lundered jacks are treated to attribute this holes to a creature that they dubbed the Arguino.
[SPEAKER_03]: The creatures bleed to be responsible for these damages.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, some lumberjack claimed to have seen him when they were coming out of the holes they'd see the head of this giant worm pull back in and disappear, or the body or the tail, you know, like when you see just the tail and of an earthworm before it shoots in, just a really big one.
[SPEAKER_03]: The organization said to be shaped like a corkscrew, at least it's head is a short, like a corkscrew and an auger.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's described as being able to bore through solid rock with ease.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are these holes, I guess, found in the wooden dams?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or is it concrete?
[SPEAKER_03]: Some concrete, some stone, about a lot of wood dams, or what, kind of, the wood ones are what pops in overdone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it seems like the stone ones are more long term.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... in legends even claim that it could cause earthquakes from a brod to deep despite the lack though congregate evidence it's still people today believe it a hundred percent as you live out there people still talk about the argarinos okay but they're causing damage like i said depending on their size uh... it's not really defined well it is believed that you know by the holes in them some of our two-incial two-inches why
[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty that's decent size which for a worm is massive.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was gonna say they're just big carpenter bees Yeah, they have a worm like body Well, you know, maybe they maybe you know, it's like the squonk, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: They attribute What they find so they find these holes that I call it must be this worm thing But in reality it's just carpenter bees.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it which carpenter bees they can fool you to if you didn't know about them and you see these tiny little bore holes
[SPEAKER_01]: basically dug out of your little holes they do that like a purple little holes in the bottom of your yeah your bench or you're you're you're you're picking table I don't know but until you witnessed I've even seen when I remember the first time I actually witnessed I seen it happen in carpenter bees digging out the hole you know and you see the little saw dust basically just fly out the bottom just like in little bursts like just little bits at a time I remember watching it happen once and I well I didn't know what was happening I thought some weird
[SPEAKER_01]: Something was weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I went and got my mom and got her out there show or there's some weird creature You know eating our porch and then I seen the bee crawl out of there and fly away.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like those do that and that's when I learn that
[SPEAKER_03]: uh there has still been can never reports and sightings of the augurino however most of them get claimed are they have been claimed and dry regions of Colorado and other states the sightings are just missed as hoaxes or misidentifications of other known animals hmm so people will clink still call in and say hey there's just weird thing eat my damn yeah and I get it's not what that is
[SPEAKER_01]: What are the, what are the, some of the explanations, though?
[SPEAKER_01]: None.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're just, you're seeing a crawl dad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Despite that, there's still reports of this and causing damage to irrigation systems in this region.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ted Day, still to this day, still happening.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's difficult to verify the existence of this creature.
[SPEAKER_03]: Legislative continue to fascinate people.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's a little artwork and stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what if I told you, now what if I told you?
[SPEAKER_03]: that this is a real animal, 100%.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've I did it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-oh.
[SPEAKER_01]: What if I told you the government made it?
[SPEAKER_01]: To bore all these holes in these people's stuff to ruin their watering, so they can go in a drought, so they can control their food supply?
[SPEAKER_01]: What if I told you there was an aquatic?
[SPEAKER_03]: Giant worm like creature that has a hard end that is corkscrew or spear shaped,
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what if I told you you're crazy?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got no more.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when I read this, I immediately thought I knew what it was.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, because there's an animal that they're describing that exist.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: That many people don't know about, but you've probably seen videos of him and thought of his fake.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking the cookie cutter shark.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I would make, you know, perfect sized holes, but it's not like a boring thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, this thing is like a boring thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's not very interesting at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what you're saying?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shipworms.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we've talked about these before.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because like a long time ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: They get big.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some of them get like feet long, like four or five, six, seven, eight feet long.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you ever see like rotting trees in India and South America and they cut them open and there's these big, they look like tentacles coming out of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Those are shipworms, really.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's also shipworms where we'll talk about.
[SPEAKER_03]: that love to eat rock in dams in humans constructs they find it tasty didn't know that and guess what they leave a perfectly cylindrical hole that is about two inches wide hmm interesting is this what all those uh... boreholes and like in the pyramids and stuff that perfectly cut and that could be i don't know they had shipworms this whole time the shipworms have long and a menace demand kind thinking ships there are thousands of ships credited to the sinking caused by shipworms
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, they also guess what?
[SPEAKER_03]: They undermine peers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, a peers will collapse because of these worms.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And in Dutch, in Deutschland, guess what their fame is for destroying?
[SPEAKER_01]: But wait, Dutch and Deutsche land are different things are Dutch and Dutch.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, um, they destroy Dutch dams.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I thought it was like they're there wouldn't shoot their dikes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, not their wooden shoes.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they probably would have you put them in the water.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there is actual huge catastrophic floods that have been caused by these worms.
[SPEAKER_03]: These little worms.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because they eat through human dams.
[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: They taste good.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, the worms don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guarantee they don't eat rock and rotting wood I mean They don't look good either.
[SPEAKER_01]: They look like a really pink hot dog with a shell on the now I don't look at like at the Mongolian what the last game bullworm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah Now researchers have found the first ship one worms to ink that
[SPEAKER_03]: Basically, eat wood from a very different diet.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they found the first worms that don't eat wood.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just started discovering shipworms.
[SPEAKER_03]: They eat rock.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: The new shipworms are thick, white, worm-like creatures that grow more than a meter long and they live in fresh water in the relatively new designs.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... research and first by the species in dozens six as a thumb size burrow in limestone and the alberto river in the philippines so they didn't even know these things existed they found their holes uh... look at them i'm looking at the pictures and they are disgusting looking yet they but they look like agarino they look like this creature that they're described like these farmers that draw this thing they look like shipworms
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just they called them at because when they first started building large wood ships, yeah, they're like there's holes in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's because worms are eating it now.
[SPEAKER_01]: How do these how do these get into like the trees and stuff?
[SPEAKER_01]: They borrow in like out of the water.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, or go through the dirt mostly like they crawl through the dirt and then they find tree and then you get up into the tree.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they don't necessarily need the water just survive.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are aquatic.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but they look they're aquatic, but they don't need the water.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess like they don't have to be in standing water if they're in the trees.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and the trees are in the body and the in the trees.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So in 2006 they discovered this in the Philippines and the you know, but it wasn't until 2018 that they have a live specimen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So 12 years of looking they found the holes and they looked for 12 years until they found one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they found I'm not talking like one or two holes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thousands of holes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The rock eating shipworms are quite different from their wood eating counterparts.
[SPEAKER_03]: The term are the team reports today, the proceedings of the Royal Society B, but really claims that shipworms have two sunken shells, or sorry, two shrunken shells that they modified into their drill heads, because they're actually clams, shipworms are a type of bivalve.
[SPEAKER_03]: Isn't that nuts?
[SPEAKER_03]: They're mollusk, but they have their heads, their beaks, are their shells that they've modified into drills.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the drills, that's insane.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this thing that they're drawing with this giant muscular tail and foot is it's stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this drill head is real.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a real thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So these people, you're telling me, and now there hasn't been one discovered out where we're talking.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you're telling me that a rancher or a lumberjack drew a picture of an animal that wasn't discovered until 2018, formally, formally, and that's 1800s.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's insane.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you don't think there's a chance it's a ship or it could be that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because even after they found the holes are like They took 12 years of research and to find it just to find it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but no one of the shipworms have been known for thousands of years.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, since humans first went on the water They first started eating boats.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they just but there's hundreds of species that eat wood
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we talked about that when we talked about, uh, like shipwrecks across the globe, uh, um, we talked about it, you know, them finding stuff at the bottom of the ocean, because remember during that Graham Hancock flint nibble debate, that was just big in the world at that time, but he made that claiming, you know, there's solid shipwrecks around the world, but we'll never find them because, uh, or what do you say?
[SPEAKER_01]: What was he saying?
[SPEAKER_01]: That there's all these shipwrecks around the world, or at the bottom of the ocean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And uh...
[SPEAKER_01]: basically saying they'll be they're preserved he was saying they'll be there forever because who said that uh... flint double oh no they won't know they'll be composing yeah arms are eating them there's bacteria and not even just the worms there's ten foot long malice that are eating the wood yeah that's crazy that they're that big too now most of the species are very small okay uh... some of the species are extraordinary though that's that's wild i think they pop out at like nine foot which is insane
[SPEAKER_01]: That's still, that's big for a mollusk.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and they're, they're, they're, their shells converted into drills for wood eating, but the rock eating shipworms also have, doesn't a thicker millimeter size teeth that they use to scrape on the outside of their body.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it looks like a ribbed drill.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we use to drill through rods.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks just like the giant boring machines.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That they're born under all the shipworms.
[SPEAKER_03]: Store food, they, or would they eat in a special digestion of sack, or bacteria degrade it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like other shipworms, the rock-eating shipworms will ingest the scraper away materials that the projective burrows, and they lack both the sack and the bacteria that likely don't get as much sustenance from the rock bits.
[SPEAKER_03]: Their ingestion may be more a holdover from the wood-eating ancestors.
[SPEAKER_03]: Interestingly enough though, it seems they rely on other bacteria regarding in their gills to produce nutrients from the food they suck in their siphon, like the clams back and for nourishment.
[SPEAKER_01]: So basically the bacteria is eating the transform and we've seen dozens of other animals that do this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean ironclides snails are a great example, or they only reason they don't eat sulfur.
[SPEAKER_03]: they swallow sulfur in the bacteria in their throat eat sulfur in they poop out nutrients right so the same thing with these guys these guys break down the rock and then the bacteria eat the nutrients and then turn eat the nutrients they're eating shipworms eat the wood yeah well they don't even do that they have an organ that hangs outside their body that they put the wood in
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, got you.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think in the sediment, there could be larval shipworms in Colorado and other rivers and stuff like that, where trees are kind of common, not super common, you know, but when they come in and they quickly decompose them, they break them down.
[SPEAKER_03]: So building these wooden dams.
[SPEAKER_03]: or these even they stone dams yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And these I think that I think they are shipworms out in Colorado.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I couldn't find there are there are fresh water shipworms here in the U.S. We have them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, uh, the E.R.
[SPEAKER_03]: dams and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Concrete a little bit of a harder material because I've acidic it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably, depending on its chemical makeup, it's not all concrete, it's the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, and so like industrial, though, concrete is a lot of, it seems like these guys don't like it as much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just fully chemical.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's just, it's not, it's not food.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think Argarino is a Colorado shipworm.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've seen, I don't disagree.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, as far as explaining away with an actual animal, I think that's probably the number one candidate.
[SPEAKER_03]: How many of you guys have ever heard of shipworms?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we've only, we may have discussed it in passing like on this show, but that's the only time I've ever even heard of it, because I think we talked about a story.
[SPEAKER_01]: What in their story were like, I can't remember if we just, if it was a story we read or if it was from a TV show, we just talked about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there was this ship where there was like whole, like they were in the hall and like the side of it was like dissolving and they didn't know why and they could like push their finger through it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they realized it was I think it was these worms maybe dissolving from the outside in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because that happened a lot of especially on large wooden ships.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, to where it would start sleeping.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what it was doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And people would be like, and you didn't know until it was too late, where the worms have eaten so much of the outside of the ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also Gooseneck barnacles do that, which is a cousin of these guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gooseneck barnacles.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which they have the the hard shell piece on the one end, where they have a long neck on the other, because they dig into feed.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know that people eat them.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're they're one of the most common barnacles on ships on wood ships because they are eaten the ship and you can eat barnacles.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're not great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen people that eat them watch a tinned fish review guy and he said they're just
[SPEAKER_03]: They're just gross and salt.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's their taste.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: By a lot of people eat them, they're on tide pools too.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're one of the species people eat to survive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're not at go to.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: But as far as a small group of humans on an island, they are an almost inexhaustible resource.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.
[SPEAKER_03]: They, like a small group of people, can, they want a little island and keep cutting them off rocks.
[SPEAKER_01]: And not right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then a couple weeks later, that whole rock patch will be refilled.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is, yeah, that's an awesome regenerative food source.
[SPEAKER_01]: Important tab.
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially nowadays.
[SPEAKER_01]: as food is oh yeah it's just drives me nuts not only been talked about it no shipworms oh yeah how did they get there that would be my question i think they were already there because there are some freshwater shipworms in the u.s
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's all sorts of just wild events that that can drop them in the like storms with the inland sea.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's there's aquatic fossils in Colorado and just full Holdovers from that perhaps.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean it's the same with the devil's whole pub fish and actually Colorado has a giant sulfur eating worm like animal and it's a spring systems.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, so that could even be a eight sulfur.
[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't dig or burrow Okay, but they already have and that's a holdover from when there was a sea got you okay
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and what if these clams, you know, they're mollusks at the end of the day, which is kind of cool to to, I read that when you were talking, but, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: that they're not worms, one, one, but what if these mollus then, you know, the sea dries up and they're buried and they kind of adapt to this new environment, you know, to where they, you know, they, you know, they, I don't know, they, it's not the typical ship form that we're used to seeing, but now that, you know, the river systems come back, maybe some of them have converted back into their original wood-eating former selves.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there aren't any true negative freshwater shipworms to the U.S.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are tons of marine species later to the U.S. Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there's always the chance of even this Philippine species coming in on imported goods at this time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was a lot of stuff coming in from Asia at this time.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and they, they're, they're, they have a free floating larval state at the beginning.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they can come in on anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they're still in the shell.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They grow the rest of it after they at leave their larval state.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, gotcha.
[SPEAKER_01]: So build pumps in.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm talking even wood and stuff that they were bringing in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're still in the Philippines or any any products.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they don't need to be on anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not like the jellyfish, how they got in the lake, eerie.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great, I mean, yeah, they just, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then there are other animals that aren't true shipworms that are in the West and freshwater systems that are doing this similar thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it doesn't have to be a direct shipworm.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say we need some shipworm art, but at the same time now, I don't know the gross.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't, I don't really want to picture that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks, could look like other things.
[SPEAKER_03]: It looks like a diseased thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dang, yeah, let's just call that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's what it looks like.
[SPEAKER_01]: A diseased thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, it's a dead look good.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the Argarino art that some of these farmers were drawing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Looks like a strip or it just It just smiles by mind that there are people that want listen because it's never been found there, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But in the Philippines where there's tons of tons of fisheries work happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been there.
[SPEAKER_03]: They discovered it's holes in 2006 and they didn't discover an adult or an animal until 2018.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, the science has to, it has to go through the science's filter.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, in the science has to tell you if it's real or not.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Connor Alex talked about this in their presentation that like, they think 70% of species are still undiscovered.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: But of that, it's almost all invertebrates.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's only a tiny percentage of it that's large mammals.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: because the larger animal harder is the hide not that is impossible for a large animal to hide we know that they can or capies and gorillas but they're just not as many species of larger mammal as there is invertebrate for the numbers use anyways but this would be a prominent hider lives in rock and wood holes in the adult state the spots were not even considering looking
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, but these guys are complaining about literal holes being pushed into their dams and their rock and wood dams, mostly the wood and these guys can eat their wood pretty fast, yeah, clearly.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it's just kind of stopping their floats, if they're moving downstream, looking for wood or going through the sediment, looking for wood and they hit a wall of wood.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's probably going to eat it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a buffet, but they also can't travel down stream anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they need to create an avenue.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully you guys enjoyed this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Learned about shipworms.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been a while since I found a cryptid that I'm like, I know what that is.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty interesting when it's a good one.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm 99.9% sure that if it's not a shipworm, there are several animals that are shipworm-like.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then it's one of those.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think it is a shipworm just because it fits that demographic.
[SPEAKER_01]: It fits a lot of the boxes.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's shipworms our grino our grino Colorado shipworm who would have thunk it All right, I've been the great and what did I say monstrous mystery spooky maybe now spooky was Monday.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay, maybe I don't know And I've been Jay clone 40 We'll catch you next week guys have a safe Halloween.
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