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[SPEAKER_14]: We didn't bet we'd deter it when they'd go.
[SPEAKER_14]: And ways you as he drives anti-hider gold is really solid.
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[SPEAKER_14]: My foot kicks his ass.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, everybody, and welcome to Bad Hussbara.
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[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: My name is Matt Lee.
[SPEAKER_06]: If I will be your most moral co-host for this podcast.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm Daniel Mantig, your other most moral co-host.
[SPEAKER_06]: The boys are back in their respective towns.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: The boys are back at home, boys are back at home.
[SPEAKER_10]: The boys just want to sleep.
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[SPEAKER_10]: it's way too long.
[SPEAKER_10]: Same thing with the that Eddie money song.
[SPEAKER_10]: What's that famous Eddie money song?
[SPEAKER_10]: Take me home tonight?
[SPEAKER_10]: No, the other one he does.
[SPEAKER_10]: Don't know.
[SPEAKER_10]: It doesn't other one.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's also very long.
[SPEAKER_10]: It just keeps going.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's like I get it.
[SPEAKER_10]: The boys are back in town, whatever that is, it's just too long.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Why would any money sounds like a Jewish gangster name?
[SPEAKER_10]: It doesn't it?
[SPEAKER_10]: It looks like it worked at like murder ink with bugsy seagull.
[SPEAKER_10]: Is that a money?
[SPEAKER_10]: You're going to go collect for the hooch.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, yeah, I'm on my sheckles by Thursday.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna send any money after you.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it's either sheckles or sheckles, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_06]: How are you doing Matt?
[SPEAKER_06]: How was your trip home?
[SPEAKER_06]: And how was your trip here?
[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, trip home was great.
[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, trip here.
[SPEAKER_10]: Trip to New York was was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_10]: We had such fun, uh, doing the live badass bar at the gutter.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was indeed.
[SPEAKER_10]: it was a thousand times better than we thought it was going to be yeah um largely thanks to producer Adam shut up oh my god producer Adam really uh came in in the clutch this guy he is all business he was he was there he was yelling at the
[SPEAKER_10]: Live shows were fine, but I had pizza five times three days.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, no, we did a lot of the same pizza joint, but it was great.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was one of the times we had pizza We got to watch Brianna joy great jogging place for dog in five minutes to get her a long time for the day.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Vossies dust spin dust spin is dust Just commemorating some some recent losses all though this one's not recent we lost prodigy of my deep mob deep several years ago Oh, my deep has a new album out called the infinite and this is their first album the infamous mob deep And yeah, I thought you're they were talking about Keith Flint first.
[SPEAKER_06]: I you mean the the techno prodigy guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, the other prodigy Right, no
[SPEAKER_06]: I love Keith Flam.
[SPEAKER_06]: He has smack my bitch up, famed?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, you know, listen to it, it's a different time.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was before woke when you were allowed to spec your bitch up.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, what was that cut about what Adam white it that was a weird that was an awkward cut out of under what was said go ahead We lost the angel though this week Oh, I can devastating I've got a couple of his arms back here This is my favorite by him is last black Messiah He only put out three albums and like 25 years real and yeah, he was a very sensitive guy
[SPEAKER_06]: very kind of tortured by his own success, including the way that his looks and body got objectified after one of his music videos.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, after untitled, I feel bad because I famously have called those growing muscles.
[SPEAKER_10]: I've been calling them deangeloes for like 20 years.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I prefer that to come gutters.
[SPEAKER_10]: Come gutters weigh worse, so I always thought it was more of an out of respect, but, yeah, well, that's too bad.
[SPEAKER_06]: They'll be time for you to atone for the death of the angel.
[SPEAKER_10]: And not enough time for me to ever get them.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_10]: My body just doesn't work like that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, fair right.
[SPEAKER_10]: I ran a whole goddamn marathon and did not develop the angelos.
[SPEAKER_06]: You ran a marathon?
[SPEAKER_10]: I ran a marathon.
[SPEAKER_10]: Wow, I know.
[SPEAKER_10]: What happened to me?
[SPEAKER_06]: I never would have expected that.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was like, uh, I was like, I forget maybe a year Sober a year and a half and you know, like part of me getting sober was working out a lot and so right running every day And I was like, I'm going to give up one extreme thing and I'm going to take on another extreme thing that's coded as healthy
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, yeah that's and sometimes it's that's not coated is healthy, but at least it's not heroin.
[SPEAKER_10]: So right, but luckily I didn't do anything to unhealthy although the running was Hell on my knees, but not heroin, but it's hero wing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Am I right?
[SPEAKER_10]: It's quite harrowing.
[SPEAKER_10]: What's the other album?
[SPEAKER_06]: There's a couple more we lost Robert Redford.
[SPEAKER_06]: So here's the soundtrack the spin Scott Joplin ragtime thing the sting not the spin the spin what's the sting what's the
[SPEAKER_06]: This one's especially for you.
[SPEAKER_06]: We lost Diane Keaton this week.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I was trying to think what songs or albums do I have that might be Diane Keaton relating related?
[SPEAKER_06]: I know it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was thinking of father of the bride, but for my girl, but I don't have that song, but the temptations.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what it is?
[SPEAKER_10]: I know what it is.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's a movie in blue.
[SPEAKER_06]: The movie Manhattan with a score by George Gershwin.
[SPEAKER_06]: And here's a George Gershwin's greatest hits album.
[SPEAKER_10]: Beautiful.
[SPEAKER_10]: What hits are on there, by the way?
[SPEAKER_10]: What do they consider hits for him?
[SPEAKER_06]: We got Rhapsody and Blue and American Imparis, three preludes, Concerto and F finale and four Guillem Best.
[SPEAKER_10]: Beautiful.
[SPEAKER_10]: Those are literally all bangers That's great.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, just the finale of the Concerto and F. Yeah, not the whole.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean that that is one of the best finale of all time So it's you know worth it better than the game of thrones finale
[SPEAKER_10]: Everything's better than the game of throns for now.
[SPEAKER_10]: Correct answer.
[SPEAKER_06]: And finally, another death, the death of a good taste and in music and the death probably of irony too, my cacca bee performed a sweet home, Yerushalai, and recently we're going to play that in the second.
[SPEAKER_06]: Actually, sweet home and Alabama is not on this skinner to album.
[SPEAKER_06]: The album is pronounced skinned, but you know, freebirds on here and believe me, when
[SPEAKER_06]: My Skinnerds were rising.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Shout out that's a a norm reference for those of you who are new here.
[SPEAKER_10]: That is incredible.
[SPEAKER_10]: And yes, the death of taste, the death of irony, the death of parody songs.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, how many
[SPEAKER_10]: Deaths is Israel responsible for at this point.
[SPEAKER_10]: It is incalculable.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, this is My cuckoo be playing bass for the world's worst dead band and they're playing sweet home Yorushalai and we're gonna play some right now The you oh, oh, that's not how that bass line goes Mike
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, no, first of all he is that this guy just read the tabs like 30 minutes earlier.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, he's sucking ass at this, by the way.
[SPEAKER_10]: Soundboy turned the bass down.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yo, yo, hey, in my headphones, turn it down.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yo, turn me down to my head for me down, turn me down, I suck ass, turn me down to my head for me.
[SPEAKER_10]: All right, now we get to all.
[SPEAKER_06]: Man, you know, genuine American white supremacy sounds so much better.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the quality of the music out of the out of the, you know, the proud Confederate south.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's true.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it's like give me that any day over this.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I mean, at least there's like a, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's a straightforwardness and an honesty to their supremacist like ways, you know, they're and a class and a and sort of a a scrapy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, under class resentment, you know,
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and whereas like this is just like, I mean, what is Jewish supremacy other than doing a parody song, you know, I mean, it's like our proud tradition of changing words of one song to another, and listen, I am proud of that tradition.
[SPEAKER_10]: But this is again is real just destroying my my image of myself here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just try it a little more Whoa
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you notice, hold on a second.
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you notice he's singing the song down the octave?
[SPEAKER_06]: I know he's not a very high song.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, let's keep it in my hand.
[SPEAKER_10]: Come here, oh my god.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like, just what you truly don't have a chest voice that goes up one more octave.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: You're singing this like a shitty can.
[SPEAKER_06]: What's more without feeling?
[SPEAKER_03]: And we want to help it ride Oh, face right here And got a totally steady Not based, uh It's a heavy life Sweet home, Jerusalem Yeah We're not words, we're going through Hang on in, I know Me?
[SPEAKER_10]: Me one ticked me on life
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, please do this is a case where it's like, you know, get me out of Zion, give me Babylon, you know?
[SPEAKER_10]: Give me Babylon, I'll be on the other side of that river, don't talk about that.
[SPEAKER_06]: By the rivers of Babylon, we thank the fucking god, the fucking Lord and heaven that he took inside of that place.
[SPEAKER_10]: By the rivers of Babylon, where music sounds normal.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh god, that sucked.
[SPEAKER_10]: The horn players slumming with that dog shit rhythm section.
[SPEAKER_10]: I know you feel bad for like the fact that they've got like all everyone's fucking on on guitar and bass and the horn It wasn't the fact that it wasn't like a showfarce section is a missed opportunity It should have someone on the Barry showfarer and the tender showfarer I would have that honestly that kind of rules.
[SPEAKER_10]: I really like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I wouldn't have made this up
[SPEAKER_10]: I would have been like fine.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's acceptable.
[SPEAKER_10]: So that's what's spinning this week on Bad Asbarra.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it is time to introduce our wonderful guests really excited to have her back.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know her.
[SPEAKER_10]: She's a previous guest, a returning champion, if you will, comedian.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, I'm Shuster, Aliasi!
[SPEAKER_19]: You're back.
[SPEAKER_19]: Hi.
[SPEAKER_10]: Hi.
[SPEAKER_19]: It's been a while.
[SPEAKER_19]: And you still have bad has brought to do.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: It turns out this podcast changed nothing.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a bottomless well or pit as it were.
[SPEAKER_19]: Well, whatever we just heard now makes days really anthem sound much better.
[SPEAKER_10]: I know.
[SPEAKER_10]: Honestly, I'd rather than just do just do a take but to the to the tune of sweet home.
[SPEAKER_10]: Alabama, you know.
[SPEAKER_10]: That would be great.
[SPEAKER_10]: Call all the bananas.
[SPEAKER_10]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_10]: See, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, that works way better.
[SPEAKER_10]: Just sweet home, Jerusalem.
[SPEAKER_10]: Come on, get out of here.
[SPEAKER_10]: So, no, you were not at that concert, unfortunately, right?
[SPEAKER_19]: Um, no, but if one day United has to love to like save me or something, I'll, you know, I'll, I'll sing back with the, yeah, with the band right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And my right and remember that United has to love was like are they affiliated with like, uh, what is that group Zaka like like where they involved with like October 7th like rescue and then October 7th spin.
[SPEAKER_19]: I don't know, but like, yeah, I mean, we see them everywhere on like ambulances and stuff.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, I see.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: So it's a medical type of save.
[SPEAKER_10]: I was wondering if it was that, or if it was, you know, the sort of Christian American evangelical thing of saving a Jew, which is just like airlifting one out of Bokerathon and putting them in Israel.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, I feel like the air we breathe is Evangelical Lair, but now especially in that particular concert with Mike Huckabee there, air lifting settler is out of court hearings.
[SPEAKER_06]: for murdering elderly Palestinians.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: When we will actually talk a little bit about that story as well, but first I want to talk about an upcoming documentary that you have coming out.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, it's called co-existence, my ass.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I have a little bit of the trailer right here that I want to play for people.
[SPEAKER_18]: I was trying to make this and I couldn't do it, so now I'm doing it through comedy.
[SPEAKER_18]: I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing it through comedy, I'm doing
[SPEAKER_19]: We're like with this to a lady.
[SPEAKER_19]: Is she running?
[SPEAKER_19]: Is she doing?
[SPEAKER_19]: Is she Arab?
[SPEAKER_19]: Should I be boycotting this show?
[SPEAKER_11]: No, I'm not.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, I'm sure still.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm sure, I'm not.
[SPEAKER_10]: Marvel-Tau, my parents said... Hey, did you pronounce it like me?
[SPEAKER_10]: I enjoy that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, that's Russian.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was inside coming up.
[SPEAKER_11]: We say it weird.
[SPEAKER_11]: What are you gonna do?
[SPEAKER_11]: That's all we do.
[SPEAKER_19]: Let's not raise our kids to be normalist, really.
[SPEAKER_19]: Let's move to the only place in the country where Jews and Palestinians live together by choice.
[SPEAKER_19]: My best friend Raniin, she's the Palestinian, she looks like Gigi Hadid.
[SPEAKER_19]: I look like Ahmadinejad next to her.
[SPEAKER_19]: Palestinians know the things that I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_19]: Your press doesn't come from an ignorant perspective, never.
[SPEAKER_19]: I'm only staying for seven minutes, not seven years.
[SPEAKER_19]: The chase audience is where we have to.
[SPEAKER_19]: Work.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm just very happy.
[SPEAKER_19]: It's not a good time to be left as thin as rain.
[SPEAKER_19]: Not fun, it's like not even as red as the news.
[SPEAKER_19]: You're you're you're fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Andrew Kiumpa, Ariar Roti.
[SPEAKER_19]: I'm Andrew Kiumpa, so I'm going to marry him.
[SPEAKER_19]: I'm going to marry him.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm going to marry him.
[SPEAKER_18]: My name is Norm and this is my show, coexistence my ass.
[SPEAKER_10]: So it looks fantastic, and I just want to ask you about it in terms of what the title of the show means.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've always thought of my ass as a great example of co-existence.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, one but she meets another but she can be a little different harmony.
[SPEAKER_19]: well who wouldn't want that you know it's like yeah coexistence is something that I've never seen somebody be like no I'm against coexistence you know it's like so yeah so to be honest it started as a joke like a real joke when I was approached by the Harvard Divinity School
[SPEAKER_19]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_19]: To propose a project for a fellowship to come to campus and Trump shut down that program since so don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_19]: But I remember when the Harvard Divinity School had this opening and I was like, what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_19]: I mean, everything is so bad and that desperate that they're calling a comedian to develop something at Harvard.
[SPEAKER_19]: to find the name that will show them what it is that I want to do, which is to basically break down the way I grew up and to unpack.
[SPEAKER_19]: It's like, you know, peace camp that I grew up in.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you made the great joke last time you were on the show that your phone corrects the town you grew up and never show them.
[SPEAKER_06]: To never show them.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, literally grew up in Never Shallow, and when I sent co-existence, my ass is a proposal to Harvard, I didn't think that I'll receive an email 10 days later saying, like, dear, no, I'm Harvard, Divinity School approves, co-existence, my ass.
[SPEAKER_17]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_19]: And so the film, which is, you know, I'm the protagonist of the film, I didn't make the film.
[SPEAKER_19]: There are amazing filmmakers behind this film.
[SPEAKER_19]: Amber Fattis, who is the director, she lived in Palestine, and her previous film is called Speed Sisters, which is about female race car drivers in the West Bank.
[SPEAKER_19]: And when she was filming at the Palestine, I was working in the UN and I was this like weird Jewish girl speaking really good Arabic in, you know, in Romaland, we were hanging out and
[SPEAKER_19]: We stayed in touch and then she saw that I pivoted from the U.N. to comedy and we met right before COVID in 2019 when I just started the fellowship at Harvard and she picked up the camera she thought that she's going to fill me in the U.S. trying to
[SPEAKER_19]: make this show and develop this show at Harvard and dealing with the discourse in the U.S. We didn't know that it will lead to five years of the team, which includes many more people who are amazing.
[SPEAKER_19]: Rabab Hajjihia, who is the Palestinian editor of the film, she has family also in a virtual home that I grew up with.
[SPEAKER_19]: She just won a major editing award at Woodstock Film Festival, which is really amazing.
[SPEAKER_19]: and Rachel Lea Johnson, Philly Belaysh, her partner that made the advocate about the lawyer that's also like a really, yeah, amazing filmmakers.
[SPEAKER_19]: And it turned into, you know, through my journey, and me trying to make this one woman show, it turned into basically us documenting, you know, the rise of fascism leading all the way to October 2023.
[SPEAKER_19]: and genocide, and so the film has laughter, but it also has a lot of tragedy and tears, and my attempt was to break down the term for existence and to really make fun of it and to make sure the audience knows that
[SPEAKER_19]: coexistence is a side effect that will hopefully happen when we have equality and real justice.
[SPEAKER_19]: But there is no coexistence, you know, when we are actively erasing the existence of Palestinians every day.
[SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you're familiar with it, it's almost...
[SPEAKER_06]: PR, spin word to, I mean, it's like these, it's one of these non-committal concepts.
[SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't really mean anything in the ceasefire agreement.
[SPEAKER_06]: I believe the ceasefire agreement recognized the right of Israelis to live.
[SPEAKER_06]: in security, and it recognized the aspirations of Palestinians towards self-determination.
[SPEAKER_06]: Which means nothing.
[SPEAKER_10]: And what's interesting about it to me is someone who's not in Israeli and has heard about coexistence in a peace camp all my life.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's interesting to see the piss taking out of it because it is so I think central to a lot of liberal Zionism.
[SPEAKER_10]: This belief in the aspirational belief in coexistence.
[SPEAKER_10]: Not as something that can be attained now.
[SPEAKER_10]: But it's something that maybe someday we can do without ever having to like move one step towards it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, or give up our privileges to do something active about it.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: And you talked about the last time that you were on the pod, you talked about sort of the sort of like the piece industrial complex that is real, you know, it seems to have
[SPEAKER_10]: in spades and not just in the country, but I mean even outside of it is this like piece industrial complex in which people.
[SPEAKER_10]: entire organizations that are dedicated to the idea of peace, but never, never, ever attaining it, it's just the idea of talking about it endlessly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Kindred gentler status quo.
[SPEAKER_10]: In terms of your own analysis and the way things have shifted from you since childhood
[SPEAKER_10]: What do you think has been sort of your, what is that journey?
[SPEAKER_10]: Like what is your main takeaway from it?
[SPEAKER_10]: How did you get to the point where you realized that it was all kind of like a facade?
[SPEAKER_19]: Well, you know, first of all, to to be completely fair, I've been
[SPEAKER_19]: enjoying it my whole life.
[SPEAKER_19]: I mean, it's truly an industry.
[SPEAKER_19]: I, you know, you receive scholarships and Harvard emails you and, you know, you get to the, to the extent where at some point I was like, wow, what if this shit gets really solved?
[SPEAKER_19]: Like, I'll be fucked.
[SPEAKER_19]: Like, I'll have nothing.
[SPEAKER_19]: I'll have nothing to do.
[SPEAKER_19]: But I think that, you know, when you grow up and,
[SPEAKER_19]: Palestinian friends and neighbors and colleagues and educators and teachers, they become basically part of my DNA and I'm speaking Arabic and my life, like from the age of seven,
[SPEAKER_19]: is really independence, there was no longer is really independence, it's the day where my best friends, grandfather and her entire family basically split apart and have been through loss and tragedies.
[SPEAKER_19]: And that identity became something so central to the way and understand the world and where I live and where we are.
[SPEAKER_19]: That when the time came, for example, to, you know, the age of 16 where the Jewish Israelis
[SPEAKER_19]: And some kids that grew up with me were responding and going to the army screenings for that it just hit me that, oh, this is
[SPEAKER_19]: not all the kids that grew up in this, you know, peace industry and stuff like are taking it the same way that I'm taking it because I grew up in a very political household.
[SPEAKER_19]: Right.
[SPEAKER_19]: My father sat in Israeli military prisons in the first in Tefada for refusing to serve and he was sent in and out of prison.
[SPEAKER_19]: basically all of my early memories is of my dad in military prison, and so the active choices that we as Israelis do to have the privilege to refuse and to do something with our privilege in order to break the status quo and to fight with Palestinians, it was central to what I thought this was, and then when around you,
[SPEAKER_19]: You see that this piece industry is kind of like a, it's a feel good industry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_19]: Let's go to Germany and discuss stuff and let's get a scholarship and this but for me.
[SPEAKER_19]: Maybe it's because the household that I grew up in and the, the type of, maybe it's my misrahi identity and like.
[SPEAKER_19]: that it made so much sense to me.
[SPEAKER_19]: Our homes were so similar, Palestinian homes, and my, you know, my misarchy home, like maybe, it was just a sort of naive sense that I had as a child.
[SPEAKER_19]: I'm not just, we're not just conveyor, we're not just holding hands, there is a fight here and it's a fight against a system that is doing wrong to my best friends and the people I grew up with.
[SPEAKER_19]: And so when I saw around me that for other Jewish Israeli kids, it was a seminar and then they go to the army thinking, oh no, we have to serve in the army to protect Israel.
[SPEAKER_19]: I was like, okay, there is like a totally different fight time, you know,
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it leaves me curious, what's the response been to the film you've shown it at film festivals in Europe and in the States.
[SPEAKER_06]: I believe there was a screening in Canada, at least at least I wanted to, you know, you're going to have a variety of people in the audience.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're going to have Palestinians who are like, yeah, co-existence my ass like,
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, they know that that term coexistence with its peaceful veneer is actually, in some ways, a very violent term because it, you know, it extends the continuation of violent circumstances under the patina of gradual incremental change.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then I imagine you've also got some curious, maybe liberal Zionists, North Americans or Europeans and the audience, who stand to have some of their illusions busted up by,
[SPEAKER_06]: your demeanor, your comedy, your style like you might see it at first blush like a safe Israeli to identify with and enjoy and then you say these things that are busting up people's illusions.
[SPEAKER_06]: Have you been surprised at all or pleased or not pleased with the response to the film?
[SPEAKER_06]: What's it been like?
[SPEAKER_19]: First of all, it's been really overwhelming.
[SPEAKER_19]: Our premier was a Sundance in January.
[SPEAKER_19]: And ever since it's been really and there's still a festival run and now the theatrical release that is starting in New York City and it's going to be all over the US.
[SPEAKER_19]: And hopefully the listeners can come and attend and also let us know how the experience was for you.
[SPEAKER_19]: that responses have been crazy and very diverse.
[SPEAKER_19]: There are always people in the audience who can't stand that I say that we're genocide, of course.
[SPEAKER_19]: And there are always people in the audience that are saying, but why can't you criticize also the Palestinians?
[SPEAKER_19]: Why can't you criticize, you know, Hamas?
[SPEAKER_19]: And, you know, my response has been very simple.
[SPEAKER_19]: I have a lot of work on my plate because my country and the majority of my people are complicit and responsible in genocide and killed more than 20,000 children and orphaned 60,000 more and I promise you that when my task of criticizing and solving all this, I will criticize everyone else as well, but now I have so much work on my plate.
[SPEAKER_19]: And the one interesting, oh, and we opened the San Francisco Jewish Film Festival, which I guess is the biggest Jewish film festival in the US, and it was co-presented with the Arab film and media.
[SPEAKER_19]: Institute in San Francisco, which I guess it was the first time where there was this kind of, you know, collaboration.
[SPEAKER_19]: So this film is allowing a very, I think, wide range of people to connect
[SPEAKER_19]: We had a crazy, crazy run in Poland, it was an opening, it opened the film festival in Poland and there were thousands of young people and then I did like a benefit show for a guy's a like a stand up show or all the income went to Gaza and after every screening and after every show in Poland just we had lines of young people Polish people who just wanted to talk to me to tell me how much the history
[SPEAKER_19]: of Poland is really restricting them from criticizing Israel, but through a character like me they're finally able to criticize Israel and then they went on in telling me, making sure I know that their grandparents were in the resistance to the Nazis.
[SPEAKER_16]: Oh, I love them.
[SPEAKER_19]: You know, I opened the history book.
[SPEAKER_19]: It doesn't add up all your grandparents.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's like, it's like in, you know, going to a Shawshank prison and everyone there didn't do it.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it's like, yeah, everyone in Poland's parents were in the resistance.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, Norman Finkelstein likes to scornfully dispute the sheer number of people who claimed to be Holocaust survivors and the kids.
[SPEAKER_06]: He does.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look at this, this, if there's this many Holocaust survivors, who did the Nazis kill?
[SPEAKER_06]: you guys are denying the holocaust by claiming to have survived it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, that's the norm goes crazy.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love norm.
[SPEAKER_19]: He's a comedian.
[SPEAKER_19]: He is a comedian.
[SPEAKER_10]: He is a comedian at heart.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_19]: But I just want to say that like I said in the trail, like Palestinians come to the film and they watch it and you know, get so
[SPEAKER_19]: a lot of love and also it's complex to like center and is really character during this time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Totally, yes.
[SPEAKER_19]: It's not, it's not something that was easy for the filmmakers.
[SPEAKER_19]: It's not something that is easy for me.
[SPEAKER_19]: You know, I think...
[SPEAKER_19]: But unfortunately, and I'm saying this with great sorrow, there's so many people out there that while Palestinians were filming themselves, going through a genocide for two years, when an Israeli Jew is saying it, then they filled a permission to listen, which is horrible, and I say to the audience, like it's a warning sign for you, like, why do you need to hear it?
[SPEAKER_19]: Israel is really Jew.
[SPEAKER_19]: When Palestinians have been documenting themselves,
[SPEAKER_06]: But while there are Palestinian podcasts too that are saying a lot of things that we say and we benefit on some levels that are unfair and on some levels that are understandable from our identities and I think identity is something ultimately that's best treated as a function like you use your identity, you channel your identity, you marry your identity with your values and try to accomplish something with it rather than kind of resting in it or letting it
[SPEAKER_06]: completely define you and I think you're doing that.
[SPEAKER_10]: And also, I mean, a perfect example, I think of how it is useful is what happened in Poland.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, the fact that these young Polish people, whose parents totally were not announced.
[SPEAKER_10]: like they're telling you to your face and I've had this happen to, you know, thank you, I, I, I need, and it, you know, obviously a Zionist is going to say, oh, this is just tokenism or what not, but I mean, let's be honest, what is Israel, if not tokenizing the entire Jewish people, but, you know, it's like the, at least in,
[SPEAKER_10]: the way the way it works in the West is people need for very racist reasons, they need to, oh, if a Jew says it, then it's okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it's, you know, uh,
[SPEAKER_10]: It's complicated and it's fucked up and we recognize that on this podcast all the time and it can be hard to find yourself especially, you know, in the center of a documentary that you did not make being a central, you know, being the center of attention in that and I imagine that can be difficult and I'm I'm excited to see the movie just to
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, I would really love to know how, you know, how it was for you after you watched.
[SPEAKER_19]: And you know, sometimes there are just these aunties in the audience that are like, I know there is a lot of politics and a lot of heavy stuff.
[SPEAKER_19]: But we just want to know, did you marry that guy in the end?
[SPEAKER_19]: Like, oh, it's always like, so there is always that.
[SPEAKER_10]: A little bit of romance goes a long way with the general audience.
[SPEAKER_06]: I also have to say, you know, having just done my first nine minutes of stand-up comedy,
[SPEAKER_06]: ever a week ago today opening opening for Matt and his wife.
[SPEAKER_06]: He did really salute.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, thank you, Matt.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I wasn't fishing.
[SPEAKER_06]: I wasn't fishing, but I wanted to just but pivoting to to that at any stage in life, especially after you've had a career and so it's fucking scary.
[SPEAKER_19]: it's very scary and also you know the topics that I choose to talk about like a lot of comedians in Israel and I think I spoke to you about it last time a lot of comedians in Israel when I you know before October 2023 because I really don't perform in the same stages here and anymore there are comedians who have
[SPEAKER_19]: I can tell you the level of disgusted I have from them using their stage to promote genocide and genocidal rhetoric and making fun of, you know, starving, starving people and guys and stuff.
[SPEAKER_19]: But, you know, before October 2023 there was always like this, this stage is where I would show up for a line of view.
[SPEAKER_19]: Oh, here is Norm.
[SPEAKER_19]: She's going to talk about Arabs and Jews, you know, I'm like the, I'm like the downer, but right.
[SPEAKER_19]: And so it's also like a choice.
[SPEAKER_19]: I mean, Daniel, what did you choose to talk about in your nine minutes?
[SPEAKER_19]: I'm sure it wasn't like your new haircut, or you don't have a new haircut.
[SPEAKER_06]: I started with a landing knowledgement.
[SPEAKER_06]: I repeated some material from the second live show, a landing knowledgement for the Brooklyn Zionists who had to flee Brooklyn because of the Mamdanian Empire.
[SPEAKER_06]: I then just did some stuff about State of Comedy itself.
[SPEAKER_06]: I talked a little bit about my age.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then I went into about
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, four or five minutes about how my dad traumatized me as a kid by raiding my jokes and I The routine ended with me talking fantasizing about cannibalizing my own father So it was very good.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was a good last.
[SPEAKER_06]: I Really I saw him last night and I had shared the video with my parents a few days ago and my dad had had assured me There's nothing you could say on stage that would offend me
[SPEAKER_06]: So I said, cool, here you go, watch it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then silence didn't say anything.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we were hanging out last night with my niece.
[SPEAKER_06]: And just as I was leaving, and my parents are going back to Canada today, so I'm not gonna see them for a while.
[SPEAKER_06]: I said, Dad, I have to ask, did you watch?
[SPEAKER_06]: You said, yes, I did.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we're still friends.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that was it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I said, that's good, that's all I need to know.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's all I need to know.
[SPEAKER_06]: I really appreciate what you were trying to do structurally, which I'll take as the first time out.
[SPEAKER_19]: Structure structure is important.
[SPEAKER_19]: It's like there are all these sentences that people tell you instead of telling you like the joke didn't really land or it wasn't funny or something.
[SPEAKER_19]: The structure is, you know, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I'm out of this structure because I really worked on that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure I nailed the delivery and I know I didn't nail the audience report like relaxing into being with them and telling you like watching, I don't know what watching you mat.
[SPEAKER_06]: I really saw the way that you let the audience enjoy enjoying you and you enjoy that and there's a reciprocal feedback loop of vibing and that's something to work on next time if I ever do it again.
[SPEAKER_19]: hearing those crickets and letting them empower you to keep falling and fucking up your own life.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then eventually, you, you still fail.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_19]: And that's one.
[SPEAKER_17]: And then they make it.
[SPEAKER_19]: And then they make a documentary about you where you're supposed to like be a vehicle for political change and you still fail.
[SPEAKER_19]: And you still fail.
[SPEAKER_06]: That'll be the biggest failure of your life going on.
[SPEAKER_06]: My promise is trying to bring political change to that reason.
[SPEAKER_19]: But in all honesty, like I really hope I hope you watch the film and it makes you like.
[SPEAKER_19]: laugh and cry also and think and act and just have better vocabulary the discourse in the US is so dumb sometimes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_19]: And I just feel like the filmmakers, they've done such a great job.
[SPEAKER_19]: It's such a fucking hard task to be documentary filmmakers.
[SPEAKER_19]: And you know, I mean, the
[SPEAKER_19]: Amber has family, Lebanon, and Robaba's Palestinian, and Rachel was with me also in Tel Aviv.
[SPEAKER_19]: She's Israeli, American, and she's, and you know, they were all doing this while the genocide was happening, and it was super, super difficult, but I think speaking up and having a platform while it's happening since
[SPEAKER_19]: You know, in Israel, it's just the space, the limited space that we already had is so narrow that it didn't make it impossible.
[SPEAKER_06]: Especially since so many Israeli celebrities, including comedians, but also artists and musicians and poets or whatever, are using their platform.
[SPEAKER_06]: to go full fascist and George Orwell said all art is propaganda, but in times where propaganda is being used for genocide, artists who do that are some of the most wretched people on earth and we actually have, I think our first piece of content that they mad on my right is this was an example of that.
[SPEAKER_06]: We should have the presses just this morning.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, just a hot off of the has bar presses.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is like, you know, you were talking about dealing with, you know, sharing the same stage with these, Israeli standup comedians who,
[SPEAKER_10]: at one point had managed you for being the political comedian, you know, and who are now they themselves delving into politics, but from a fascist direction, which is always always appreciated, and it's interesting to see that kind of proliferation and almost like,
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I don't live in Israel, so I don't know if it's popular there, but sort of the popularization of kind of using a liberal art to do fascism, and what could be more a liberal art to do fascism than using the power of spoken word poetry to do fascism.
[SPEAKER_10]: I get to present to you all a bit of spoken word a bit of hip hop and fused Schluck before we start normal.
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you familiar with the work of Louis Clown Bloom?
[SPEAKER_19]: No, and I'm not sure I want to be.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, you're about to be.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, so sorry, but here is Rory corn bloom.
[SPEAKER_06]: Rory.
[SPEAKER_10]: What oh, is there oh, sorry.
[SPEAKER_10]: Roy Roy, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Roy Cohen.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, doing a song, hey, Jew, um, and it's not either of the things you're thinking you are.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's not the being Floyd.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's not the Beatles.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's a song thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't even think of the word.
[SPEAKER_07]: They hate you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't matter what you say.
[SPEAKER_06]: Go back to the very, very beginning that because he does it.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is an English and he's doing some puns.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the thing that let's play, and I'll comment afterwards.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, Jew, they hate you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Don't matter what you say.
[SPEAKER_07]: Don't matter what you do.
[SPEAKER_07]: They hate you.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, no matter what you say in a matter you would do I think not doing genocide actually would do it go a long way But then yeah, so just start off he's Hate you they hate you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, not bad.
[SPEAKER_06]: The thing the thing I find remarkable about this is that on its own terms He's doing this genre reasonably well, which says maybe something about this It says a lot about spoken word
[SPEAKER_07]: but like okay fine that's that's decent word play hey Jew they hate you on it if you take the semantics out of it yeah and the politics out of it all right here's more it it and dress it up is some sophisticated that go with war crimes a polystyrene or the idea they say that we control the banks and the US government we turn Christian babies into mozzarella bread they'll make those lies sound like facts when in fact they just hate you ever noticed no slur for Jews no inward no effort okay hold on hold on hold on has this
[SPEAKER_10]: What this you're living up this fucking honey never never never being called a kite I loved then there's no slur for Jews.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm just like that's proofs to me You don't deal with actual anti-Semitism.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's useless in your fucking bunker called Israel Maybe there's no slur for Jews
[SPEAKER_19]: Never again, never again, will I watch this video?
[SPEAKER_10]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's a curse for every group, but for us, it's just Jew.
[SPEAKER_07]: Say it with your right tone, and it's a curse.
[SPEAKER_07]: Here, I'll show you in this verse.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, Jew, hey, Jew, you see?
[SPEAKER_07]: One go from the room.
[SPEAKER_07]: Nope, didn't get anything from that.
[SPEAKER_10]: I feel the hate when you say it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I literally, nothing.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_10]: The point he's making there is just like, you know, the idea of it being hateful the way you say it.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's like, oh, oh.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, you can make that point, but it also sounds like I can sort of interpret anything as anti-Semitism.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, I can kind of make it up whenever I feel like that's how projection works.
[SPEAKER_19]: I want to tell him, like, I actually thought of the Beatles when you said it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: When you say, hey, Jew, I think of, you know, Pink Floyd.
[SPEAKER_10]: Hey, Jew, out there on your own.
[SPEAKER_19]: Getting.
[SPEAKER_19]: Well, that's anti-Semitic.
[SPEAKER_19]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_10]: That is Roger Waters doing it.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you know, John Lennon would have been anti-genocide.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I imagine so.
[SPEAKER_07]: Although, shit, who knows, dude?
[SPEAKER_07]: Tony Ork, come on.
[SPEAKER_07]: though there was never any Palestine in between.
[SPEAKER_07]: Then it would create a justification for glorifying the nation that would kill without hesitation if you're gay.
[SPEAKER_07]: Let's be an or just a man who looked at the Quran with a wrong facial expression.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, for the sake of that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I hope what what what what what what what.
[SPEAKER_06]: That is saying the Palestinians will kill someone who looks at the Quran wrong.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's just like just how can a norm can you answer this question because it always look at the Quran in a loving way.
[SPEAKER_06]: I gave the Quran side, I once, and I felt the anti-Semitism around me.
[SPEAKER_10]: What always blows my mind is seeing an Israeli saying something like this where it goes like, oh, if you look at the Quran wrong, they'll kill you, which is like, it's the whole
[SPEAKER_10]: Arabs are all religious fanatics who will kill you for being gay and whatnot or for you know, yeah looking at the Quran wrong.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is something in the United States that we have, we have sort of a blanket it almost like ignorant Islamophobia.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm not excusing it, but it's an Islamophobia kind of based on the fact that at least both in popular culture and in terms of population, we don't have, you know, a lot of Arabs or a lot of Muslims, at least in comparison to the amount of PR that maybe other religions get.
[SPEAKER_10]: In Israel,
[SPEAKER_10]: You are, your neighbors will be Arabs.
[SPEAKER_10]: You will, you will know some Muslims.
[SPEAKER_10]: Your bus driver, how is it that someone can, is he knowingly doing propaganda?
[SPEAKER_10]: Is he knowingly lying when he says that?
[SPEAKER_10]: Or is he, is there just a portion of his really society that is just ignorant to, I don't know, the their own neighbors?
[SPEAKER_19]: Well, let's hypothetically say that an Israeli bumps into a, you know, Palestinian, Muslim person and this person is his doctor, his pharmacist, you know, then we will do, then there will be like the self-explaning of like, oh, no, but he's not like one of those.
[SPEAKER_19]: things that have in my head, or maybe just in the capacity of whatever we have right now, but when the day comes, when he will have to be against me, he will be against me, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And if it's him or me, it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_19]: And so segregation, segregation, in that sense,
[SPEAKER_19]: you can literally live with some, or next to someone with someone, but have, you know, zero, you know, you've had a zero opportunity to humanize them to the fullest level.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yes, in terms of, you know, in terms of every aspect of life.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Which is another limitation of,
[SPEAKER_06]: coexistence, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: There is, there actually is coexistence within 48 Israel.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's even coexistence in the West Bank.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a kind of coexistence in both our existing, they interact sometimes, and it's not always murderous or outwardly hateful, but the profound indifference and ignorance and ultimately the conviction that anyone
[SPEAKER_06]: who treats you like a human being must be the exception that proves the rule and as you said the day may come where it's going to be either me or him and you God damn right it's going to be me that survives.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm prepared to throw him under the tank.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's just like, I look at this and I just, it's just so, it mirrors so exactly like white supremacist anti-black racism in the United States, the way we do the same thing, you know, like the, wow, you know, had a good experience with a black doctor, you know, where, you know, people dehumanize Palestinians in the same way and it's just like, you know,
[SPEAKER_10]: I just watching this and the fact that it's coming from this liberal art form that's where to me it's hilarious liberal black coded art form.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, it's an interesting art form.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, it's like just like imagine watching like a Confederate spoken word poet is very funny to me.
[SPEAKER_19]: You should hear some of the songs of the Zionist hip-hop band.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, I've heard them.
[SPEAKER_10]: I've heard them.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: They are, uh, they are not great.
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Here's a little bit more of this.
[SPEAKER_07]: These were duskling me genocide and occupation.
[SPEAKER_07]: Show me another place where citizens are playing for the government's action.
[SPEAKER_06]: Back up, I'll show you the map because he's making an argument here.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's doing a, let's say hypothetically.
[SPEAKER_06]: So just back up slightly.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, sure, sure, sure.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, no for the sake of argument, that Israel does commit genocide and occupation.
[SPEAKER_07]: Show me another place where citizens are playing for their government's action.
[SPEAKER_07]: Rushing Vazicrain, but no one hates Russians, everybody knows Putin's to blame.
[SPEAKER_07]: Iran executes women for not covering their hair.
[SPEAKER_07]: No one hates Iranians, the truth is, most don't even care.
[SPEAKER_07]: And Turkey, they commit the genocide de facto.
[SPEAKER_07]: Did the world gave them a hard time?
[SPEAKER_07]: No, they gave them a citinato, so it's not general-sized they care about.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not the women or the children!
[SPEAKER_07]: They don't want to mourn the victims, they just want to hunt the villain, and in the court of all the opinion, Jews are always guilty.
[SPEAKER_07]: And strangely enough, the judge is never Jewish.
[SPEAKER_07]: The human mind is a brilliant thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: When it feels hate, it beats a story to it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Then it tricks itself that the story came first.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_19]: Wait, we don't control the courts.
[SPEAKER_19]: The judge is never Jewish.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't judge his often, too.
[SPEAKER_10]: The judge of the court of World Opinion, I believe we're talking about.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: My name, Danielle, means my God is my judge.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that he certainly thought God was Jewish.
[SPEAKER_10]: Dude, I just...
[SPEAKER_10]: that argument alone is so wild.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like, okay, let's say we are committing a genocide.
[SPEAKER_10]: So, why you mad at me?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, you can be mad at the government and the fact that I am pro the genocide happening.
[SPEAKER_10]: But I don't understand why you are not mad at everybody else.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'll tell you why.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's say for the sake of argument, Mr. Hoey, that you're right, that we don't blame people from other countries, which we do.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've never seen a Russian person sitting there doing one of these corneas slamporky things about how Ukrainians don't really exist, and Ukrainians will like bite your face off if you like say Kiev instead of Kiev.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's wild to me, it's wild that it's just like, you know, maybe it's because I'll just be going about my business and then someone with a bullhorn will yell is really propaganda at me.
[SPEAKER_10]: you know, a half statement of condemnation towards Israel without being accused of anti-Semitism.
[SPEAKER_10]: Bill Nye was just called an anti-Semite because he said, well, I don't want to really talk about, you know, politics and stuff.
[SPEAKER_10]: But I just think when one country levels another country, that's not good.
[SPEAKER_10]: And some guys, Bill Nye, the race science guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: the right science guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, no, and he got called, it got called thinly veiled anti-Semitism by some guy at the free press.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I'm like, what?
[SPEAKER_10]: There's literally nothing you can say without someone doing a goddamn four minutes spoken word like slam poem about how you're bad.
[SPEAKER_19]: But listen, you know, the Jewish people and Israelis, they've just been through only two years ago,
[SPEAKER_19]: Massacre since the Holocaust and you're asking, you're asking them to look, I don't think, I don't think they're asking.
[SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't a mask, they didn't use, they didn't lose your vision by that much.
[SPEAKER_06]: I wouldn't call it a massacre.
[SPEAKER_19]: But by Daniel, you're asking them to reckon with what they did when, when, when, um,
[SPEAKER_19]: when they, you know, I mean, if we don't have that excuse that everybody hates us because we're Jewish, it means we have to sit and acknowledge that we did something wrong.
[SPEAKER_19]: Nobody likes to do that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, no, that hurts.
[SPEAKER_19]: Nobody wants to do that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_19]: Do you do that?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: No.
[SPEAKER_10]: You make a good point.
[SPEAKER_10]: If you don't blame it on just all, they just hate us because they ain't us, then you have to sit and go, why did this happen?
[SPEAKER_10]: Why did October 7 happen?
[SPEAKER_10]: Why, you know, why are people angry and not allowing us, you know,
[SPEAKER_10]: Tough introspective questions, and that's hard to do when you have I don't know like Slime poems to write You know, I see how we finish this off.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, let's see how much we can get through before Gun in mouth here.
[SPEAKER_07]: We know the first comes hate but wait what is it?
[SPEAKER_07]: It's only fear wearing alcohol and when fear meets lack of self-awareness What is eight?
[SPEAKER_07]: Eight eight is the number at the seven
[SPEAKER_06]: Points outwards, there's a few turns to hate you just said when when hate meets lack of self-awareness He literally just said that go back a little and when fear meets neck of self-awareness He points outwards, there's a few turns to hate and hate turns to ideology So the whole guy got here meets self-aware lack of self-awareness, it points outward bars motherfucker bars That's the most self-aware thing he said except he's not aware of it
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh god, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to self-awareness, self-awareness leads to hate of others.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you, Yoda.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yoda, do he slam poetry?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, all right, let's try.
[SPEAKER_07]: Antisemitism, college degree, and they'll probably call it human rights.
[SPEAKER_07]: Now who am I to argue with that?
[SPEAKER_07]: Just a Jew, and so are you, and we're supposed to be all going alive, but I guess electricity ain't cheap.
[SPEAKER_07]: We've been doing so far, he's hide, we hide our religion, our tradition, we talk our star of David negligence inside our t-shirts, and that's how they win.
[SPEAKER_07]: They made every Jew have a little anti-Samide within, we got to pull him out, we got to say I'm a Jew, and we got to say it out loud, be proud of who you are.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm sorry, what in the last two years has convinced you that people are hiding?
[SPEAKER_10]: The fact that they are Jewish, the amount of people who are pushing this total bullshit Usually it's in like we talked to do New Yorkers who are scared about Mondani So they are you know pulling off the the mousosa's from their door frame and I'm just like
[SPEAKER_10]: I have never seen so many people wrap themselves in the fucking star of David.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's never been more visible, you know, Jews or celebration of Judaism or being Jewish than there has been in the last fucking two years.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it's all just Zionism.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's all not actually celebration of being Jewish.
[SPEAKER_10]: And now they're recruiting.
[SPEAKER_06]: Go ahead.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now what did he say about the electricity not being cheap like there is a stereotype about us anyways way that if does he have where I where the landlord's turning off everyone's lights well he said we're supposed to be an oil to let go of him right a light into the nation but electricity ain't cheap and for those listening but not watching
[SPEAKER_06]: There's this whole thing happening.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like fucking Jonathan Demi's talking heads movie.
[SPEAKER_06]: Stop making sense.
[SPEAKER_06]: It starts on a blank stage, but then the set is assembled around him as he goes.
[SPEAKER_06]: And someone put like a lamp.
[SPEAKER_06]: Floor Lamp behind him at some point and when he said that electricity and cheap the light bulb came on and when he said We're talking our star of David's into our shirts.
[SPEAKER_06]: Someone came and put a big fucking Dark glass star of David around him and he's wearing some kind of like fur-lined jean jacket Yeah, like some is really the area type.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's my right hand.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is sort of the R.C.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look.
[SPEAKER_06]: Am I right?
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I'm
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is, this is, all right.
[SPEAKER_10]: We've got only got a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_10]: Never come to every CTM through this.
[SPEAKER_10]: Let's do it.
[SPEAKER_07]: We can do it, guys.
[SPEAKER_07]: And every country you want.
[SPEAKER_07]: For street, every person you meet, let them know you're Jewish.
[SPEAKER_07]: You don't give a shit if they hate you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Cause hate you.
[SPEAKER_07]: We love you.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that's all that matters.
[SPEAKER_10]: Did he rise?
[SPEAKER_10]: Street with the Israeli pronunciation of shit.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you don't give a white sheet.
[SPEAKER_19]: You don't give a sheet.
[SPEAKER_19]: I have a feeling like if he sees me on stage, being proud of being a Jew, that he's like against the genocide that is just coming in, he's not gonna want me to.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have to be so loud.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's telling people to go up to people, like to walk around any country.
[SPEAKER_06]: And to any person they meet, walk up to this person and apropos of nothing, say, hey,
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm a Jew, and I don't really have a sheet if you don't like it.
[SPEAKER_19]: And this person in Italy is just trying to have his ice cream is like, okay, be a Jew.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, who cares?
[SPEAKER_19]: Yes, you're not the center of the universe.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yes, my, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_19]: Oh, my god.
[SPEAKER_19]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_06]: This guy's on the phone with his best friend trying to tell his best friend.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I think these anti-Semitic stereotypes about Jews being pushy and self-righteous aren't true.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, someone's trying to talk to me.
[SPEAKER_06]: What's that?
[SPEAKER_06]: you're a Jew and you don't give it okay thanks I stand up I stand correct it sir well hey Jew let's try some slam take a black for a man make it not see why don't you wait exactly oh man can believe you made me watch this like I live here and I've avoided it
[SPEAKER_06]: This isn't for Israeli consumption.
[SPEAKER_06]: He did it in English for a reason, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: It's they're they're getting a an Israeli A proud Israeli looking Israeli to make this content for Jews outside Right continue to permission them to feel paranoid and suffering
[SPEAKER_10]: I know, I know, that's the thing is like, like, really, who is watching this and the answer is?
[SPEAKER_19]: Maybe maybe Amy Schumer, he got three views, Amy Schumer or Chelsea Hender, maybe?
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, and Debra Messing, and, oh, and, um, what's the name of the freaking?
[SPEAKER_10]: Which one?
[SPEAKER_19]: Freaking?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, if you have a story about that, do you have a story about Daniel Ryan Pauling?
[SPEAKER_19]: I do, but are you ready?
[SPEAKER_19]: Like do you want me to play?
[SPEAKER_10]: First, we're gonna do a real quick commercial break.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then when we come back, we'll hear a little bit about that.
[SPEAKER_10]: But everyone, please stick around.
[SPEAKER_10]: We will be right back.
[SPEAKER_10]: And we're back as bad as borrowers was moral podcasts and we're here with no Schuster L. I see No, I'm yes you cheesed before the break Something about Daniel Ryan's balding everyone's favorite power goi.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean power gay white power goi white power goi Can what what what happened?
[SPEAKER_10]: Do you have an experience with him?
[SPEAKER_19]: What on earth makes just a guy just dedicated his life like to
[SPEAKER_19]: Oh my gosh, it was my wedding day in New York City.
[SPEAKER_19]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_19]: I am in a beautiful dress.
[SPEAKER_19]: I am holding a bouquet of flowers.
[SPEAKER_19]: My relative who is not politically aligned with me at all.
[SPEAKER_19]: She is coming fresh from Ohio from your much-mode independence is really independence day with star David on her manicure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like cool.
[SPEAKER_19]: and she made a surprise.
[SPEAKER_19]: She came to my civil marriage ceremony in New York City.
[SPEAKER_19]: We're a bunch of friends.
[SPEAKER_19]: Some really cool and designist activities that you guys know.
[SPEAKER_19]: We're just walking a group of us from the city hall towards finding somewhere to eat.
[SPEAKER_19]: I'm holding the bouquet of flowers and then I spot him.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm like, and I, and I look at my cousin, and I'm like, oh, it's that guy that does, like, and my cousin talks about that, that spent the last two years going yummy, yummy, is really difficult.
[SPEAKER_19]: Like, that's just brand.
[SPEAKER_19]: And literally, my cousin goes, oh, my God, I love him, and I go, oh, at the same time.
[SPEAKER_19]: And we both run towards here for completely different reasons.
[SPEAKER_19]: That's why she wants an admiring selfie with him.
[SPEAKER_19]: And I want to open my camera to make like an insult him on video, be like, dude, what the fuck are you doing?
[SPEAKER_19]: If people are wondering what this is, this is a henna.
[SPEAKER_19]: Oh, yeah, I was going to say, yeah, you got a henna tattoo.
[SPEAKER_19]: It's like a henna.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, that's got to be some kind of like gay fantasy, a woman in a wedding dress with a bouquet of flowers running towards you to curse you out.
[SPEAKER_19]: My my cousin went first so he thought, oh these trees rally women are coming to like a dormitory and admire me And so my cousin takes like oh my god, like takes a selfie with him and I was like
[SPEAKER_19]: And then I open my camera and I'm like, Daniel, why are you spreading lies and propaganda?
[SPEAKER_19]: And then he turns off my camera phone so that he becomes red and he's like, Susan surrendered once you dead.
[SPEAKER_19]: I am protecting the Jewish people from a genocide that people want to do against you and your mad at me, Susan Surandon, and all the celebrities want you dead.
[SPEAKER_11]: I love Susan Surandon.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's a random one, she's dead.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm like Susan Serendon, doesn't want me dead.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think she wants me dead.
[SPEAKER_10]: The idea that Susan Serendon is who you have to worry about.
[SPEAKER_10]: How can you be mad at me when Susan Serendon's the one that you're window at night, scheming?
[SPEAKER_19]: I am the, he's, he's like saying this like big speel about how he's the, he's speaking up for my people when everybody's turning their backs against us and blah, blah, blah and he almost like he turned so red and so I was just looking at him and I was like dude, it's my wedding day relaxed and my amazing beautiful partner.
[SPEAKER_19]: I see him across the road.
[SPEAKER_19]: Like with my friends, just looking at me and admiring from afar, they'd like see why I married her.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, man, fine.
[SPEAKER_06]: Someone who looks at you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: The way that man looks at you when you're cursing out Daniel Ryan's brother.
[SPEAKER_10]: I seriously, I wish every leftist single person somebody that looks at them while they're raging against, or at least, you know, I wish them all the opportunity to yell at these people in person, especially people like Daniel Ryan's balding, who are, you know, I mean his whole thing, the fact that he's mad at you, like, I'm saving you, Jews!
[SPEAKER_06]: You're like, well, someday, someday if you have kids and if your kids are inclined to wear wedding dresses on their wedding day, no matter what gender they are, you can pass that dress down and say, your mommy, your Emma, yelled at a power gay Nazi in this dress, and I'd
[SPEAKER_19]: Daniel, I will tell this child that their mom returned that dress to the story.
[SPEAKER_19]: God, full refund, the story for one day.
[SPEAKER_19]: Come on, if you even bet you, be a little bit.
[SPEAKER_06]: You even bet it, you even bet it.
[SPEAKER_19]: Oh, it's much better than passing a dress.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'll pass the tradition of returning the dress and that's the real right of return.
[SPEAKER_16]: All right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Sorry, I had to play that.
[SPEAKER_06]: When we keep receipts, it's to get released.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh boy, okay, so moving on to other subjects, one thing, you know, first, just out of the bat talking about those celebrities, I just wanted to just show this one thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: Amy Schumer recently posted this, she voted, and who did she vote for?
[SPEAKER_10]: Rhymes with Duomo.
[SPEAKER_10]: So Amy Schumer voted for Andrew Cuomo, which I mean talk about full circle, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean she literally went from girl boss, you know, girl power to I will literally vote for a 13 time sexual harasser in order to stop a Muslim candidate who's critical of Israel.
[SPEAKER_06]: Shout out to Curtis Sliwa, who was the best thing about that mayoral debate.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, Sauron did very well.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Fucking Sliwa running interference for him.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just as well as Brad Lander ever did.
[SPEAKER_06]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was so fucking Sliwa was just like, all right, quiet, Sauron.
[SPEAKER_10]: I hate him more.
[SPEAKER_10]: I hate Cuomo more, but yeah, so that's a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, we're going to get into American politics.
[SPEAKER_10]: Now, we obviously, we had a ceasefire agreement that Trump was able to get through people are screaming at all of the left for not celebrating the ceasefire in the streets.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, yeah, no, according to people here, he brought world peace peace.
[SPEAKER_19]: It's like it's peace.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's it's it's it's I saw some some Israeli comedian woman.
[SPEAKER_06]: What's your name?
[SPEAKER_06]: Mattel something rather.
[SPEAKER_06]: I might have that wrong She did like this place up stealthy video Oh my god, I need mochana lim sots at the Trump.
[SPEAKER_06]: I am ready to suck Trump.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm ready to blow Trump and if you know me
[SPEAKER_06]: If you see on the reflection of her sunglasses, her kid, her toddler is like right there.
[SPEAKER_06]: And she's like, if you know me, that's a very rare gift.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, stop!
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't like it.
[SPEAKER_10]: It is, uh, listen, it's a success.
[SPEAKER_10]: I, very sick, uh, but, you know, Trump is, uh, obviously doing the rounds, uh, trying to get his, uh, Nobel Peace Prize, all that shit.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, while, of course, what's actually happening, um, is, uh, a grieges.
[SPEAKER_10]: In fact, uh, recently, I think this was yesterday, and we're, we're talking about this on Monday, October 20th, but it's, believe this is yesterday, a couple days back.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was reported that Netanyahu reactivated as genocidal war in Gaza.
[SPEAKER_10]: His army conducted more than 100 air strikes since the morning and killed more than 30 Palestinian civilians.
[SPEAKER_10]: Netanyahu also activated his collective punishment of the civilian population blocking all humanitarian aid to Gaza.
[SPEAKER_10]: Now this happened due to a Israeli bulldozer in Rafa'i believe that blew up.
[SPEAKER_10]: and they said Hamas did it, the Hamas came out of the tunnels and did an act of terror breaking the ceasefire.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was then revealed that soon after the explosion in Rafa, I'm told by this is according to Ryan Grimm, I'm told by a source familiar, the White House and Pentagon,
[SPEAKER_10]: knew that the incident was caused by an Israeli settler, bulldozing, an Israeli settler, bulldozer, running over unexploded ordinance, contradicting Netanyahu's claim that Hamas had popped up from the tunnels.
[SPEAKER_10]: After Netanyahu said he was blocking all aid from entering Gaza in response and unleashed a bombing campaign, the administration conveyed to Israel that they know what happened Netanyahu then announced he would reopen the crossings in a few hours.
[SPEAKER_10]: So, you know, ever since the ceasefire, there's been, I mean, there was a boss that was bombed, killing a bunch of Palestinian civilians, and then, of course, in the West Bank, settler violence continues, ceasefire is a really fun word.
[SPEAKER_10]: That means nothing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Our boy Jasper Nathaniel has been documenting that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure we'll get to that today, but
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's a grievous incident of, uh, you know, and that video just, yeah, hard hunting, it's hunting.
[SPEAKER_06]: The way they were ambushed by the settlers, the way the idea pretty much set them up and then that brutal beating of an elderly Palestinian woman who I hear is now in stable condition.
[SPEAKER_10]: And now in stable condition, she was in the ICU for a, uh,
[SPEAKER_10]: for a brain bleed because she was beaten by an Israeli settler who I mean like this kind of just status quo racist violence is you know it's like we've gotten to the point now where people
[SPEAKER_10]: want to move on from this, but find that they can't because Israel continues to kill with impunity.
[SPEAKER_10]: And in terms of who wants to move on from this, I've found
[SPEAKER_10]: that other than the Trump administration just wanting to collect a metal, the people who really want to move on from this seem to be the democratic party in the United States.
[SPEAKER_06]: Last week at their move on.org, you know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, this is a move on, exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: So, the last week there was a few different interviews, the Democrats are doing podcasts now, which, you know, God bless them finally.
[SPEAKER_10]: They're trying to find their Joe Rogans of the left.
[SPEAKER_06]: God bless and book tours, baby.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the way into ordinary Americans' hearts.
[SPEAKER_10]: exactly it's what the Democrats do best but this time around they're actually finding that they're being interviewed by people who are asking them I wouldn't even say tough questions I would just say real questions and they are failing miserably at them in ways that have been I don't know about you Daniel or you know them but have been infuriating to me.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I just want to play a few of these interviews that happened.
[SPEAKER_10]: Let's start with Cory Booker who went on, I don't know the name of the podcast, but it's like this like white middle-aged lady, and it's called just like, I'm tired of this shit or something like that.
[SPEAKER_10]: And she's actually pretty based.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like she's doing a lot of really great work because she is open about her criticism of Israel in the Israeli government.
[SPEAKER_10]: And she talks to Cory Booker, who is a senator, who we all know as guy who will do a 25-hour filibuster and then vote to send more weapons to Israel and take a picture in Danielle, who.
[SPEAKER_10]: And so here is her interview that she did last week
[SPEAKER_01]: So war criminal, Benjamin Netanyahu.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think he's a war criminal?
[SPEAKER_08]: I, again, these are these are questions that a lot of people think are the important litmus tests that are loaded and hot.
[SPEAKER_08]: My urgency is to be an effective leader in bringing an end to this crisis.
[SPEAKER_08]: And I get these questions all the time that to me undermine my urgency.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the thing that Democrats get so frustrated with, where we are right now, where you see like the Zoroan mom Donis and the Grand Platonars rise up, because they can go on podcasting, you can say, do you think Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal?
[SPEAKER_01]: And they just say, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: and that's the end of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not all of the rhetoric answering.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's not what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's not what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's not what you're doing
[SPEAKER_10]: do I, he ends with, do I think Netanyahu's worse than Trump?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, which literally the only prism in which a Democrat can look at anything political.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, here's actually, there were a bit of a great, easy answer sort of by a kind of political transitive party, excuse me, transitive principle to get an answer to is Netanyahu a work criminal, just simply ask him, do you think Netanyahu is worse than Barack Obama?
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: The answer is yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, Barack Obama is a war criminal.
[SPEAKER_06]: So Benjamin, you know, who must be by the that's and then some by the transit of property.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and I'm just like, you know, I'm watching this.
[SPEAKER_10]: And there's a few of these pivots that these politicians are doing on the Democrats side, which is like,
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, questions like these are litmus tests.
[SPEAKER_10]: These are, um, these are traps set by people who want to make me look bad and they don't understand the real politics of this, which is that, in order to be an effective leader, I have to play ball with, uh, you know, I have to be careful with what I say, to which I would answer like, if you had ever done anything effectively,
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't think I would be in the position of criticizing you all as much as I am.
[SPEAKER_10]: If the Democrats ever actually did something like, let's say, listen, the reason I need to take a pack money, the reason I need to take money from the Israel lobby.
[SPEAKER_10]: is because I have to throw Palestinians under the bus because I'm the person that's going to get you health care.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm the person that's going to codify road view aid.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm the person that's going to make it illegal to fucking just send out ice agents to round up people like Nazis.
[SPEAKER_10]: They don't actually do any of these things.
[SPEAKER_10]: The quick pro quo does not exist.
[SPEAKER_10]: So instead, it's just like, well, if you're already ineffective and not doing anything at all, you might as well stand for something that you believe in.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_06]: The next time my partner asks me, if I was sexting with another woman, I'm going to say, look, my urgency here is to reduce the, like, conflictual conversations between you and me, and you are undermining my urgency with that question.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's just one of these litmus test questions.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that frankly is just, it's just what's wrong with the politics.
[SPEAKER_06]: You are making me a less effective husband.
[SPEAKER_10]: Every time you are asking me, uh, you know, where I was.
[SPEAKER_10]: OK, and I think you need to understand the pragmatism of good husbandry.
[SPEAKER_10]: Anyways, yeah, I don't know how much exposure you get to American politics in terms of, especially from the democratic side.
[SPEAKER_10]: When you see someone who is in a position of power in the American government who refuses to call Benjamin Netanyahu, something as simple as a war criminal, which is something that he is literally being accused of by the international criminal court.
[SPEAKER_19]: you know, we get, I get a lot too much actually exposure here, the similarity with our like ridiculous opposition is, it's, it's, it's, it's amazing.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_19]: It's really, really, really amazing.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, that's right, because you guys also have a fake control
[SPEAKER_19]: the head of the opposition, the head of the opposition during a government that is responsible, you are the opposition to a government that is responsible for October 7th.
[SPEAKER_19]: It happened and under their watch, you have it all laid out.
[SPEAKER_19]: It's just there for you to grab and be the most like fighting opposition and you know what he used this time to talk about?
[SPEAKER_10]: No.
[SPEAKER_19]: You know, yeah, you'll appear like this.
[SPEAKER_19]: Right.
[SPEAKER_19]: It's like a copy paste of these Democrats who want to be like right wings and trists, then actually be an opposition.
[SPEAKER_17]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_19]: He talked about the campus demonstration.
[SPEAKER_06]: and like in America.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: God.
[SPEAKER_10]: Just.
[SPEAKER_10]: Just Israel just is the 51st state of the United States at this point.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, we are.
[SPEAKER_06]: The panics is real already.
[SPEAKER_19]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_19]: You have the opportunity.
[SPEAKER_19]: You have Trump is there.
[SPEAKER_19]: And you know then what Trump said.
[SPEAKER_19]: Well, after the chair of the opposition, Trump looks at Netanyahu and said, baby, you have a nice chair of opposition.
[SPEAKER_19]: Be nice to him, baby, you see, be like even Trump.
[SPEAKER_19]: was referring to the fact that he was not opposing anything.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, if there's one thing Trump can recognize, it's up sequoistness, it's people playing ball and going along and pretending to oppose.
[SPEAKER_10]: BB, this is this guy's nice.
[SPEAKER_10]: He exposed his soft underbelly to me.
[SPEAKER_19]: And then Trump goes, and I brought your ceasefire, BB, you can be nice to the opposition, he's nice.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, I felt like I was having a seizure when Trump is giving his speech in the Knesset.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_19]: Seriously.
[SPEAKER_19]: When Trump, when he looked at the president and told him that he can pardon BB, ah, champagne, cigars, who cares, pardoned like, oh, thank God.
[SPEAKER_06]: Honestly, I love that shit.
[SPEAKER_06]: I love when Trump does that, because he's always exposed, whether he means to
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you know, and he's like he's saying the thing you're not supposed to say and I'm sure he either believes it or he's just going on ADD impulse I think a part of that Cory Booker thing is the thing that politicians do like and Kamala does it to and I don't know if we have the clip of the book event that That was a draw up but but but but it's a very it's a very democratic politician thing someone will ask a question
[SPEAKER_06]: And the first words out of the Democratic politicians mouth were whether it's Votage, or Obama, is like, well, these are questions.
[SPEAKER_16]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Those words you just said to me, they had a question mark at the end.
[SPEAKER_06]: They wasn't interrogative.
[SPEAKER_06]: These are questions.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was a sentence.
[SPEAKER_06]: These are definitely words.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was English.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, the idea that you're just like, well, listen.
[SPEAKER_10]: Sometimes people ask me questions, and gosh, darn it, you just did.
[SPEAKER_19]: That's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all
[SPEAKER_10]: Who am I to say anything at all of substance?
[SPEAKER_19]: In my non-leader?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the court will decide whether the policies that I've visciferously supported and decried anyone for being hateful for opposing our agenda side or not.
[SPEAKER_19]: the court, but as we said, doesn't have a Jewish shijad.
[SPEAKER_19]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: This court is adjorned.
[SPEAKER_10]: That was bad.
[SPEAKER_10]: That was good enough.
[SPEAKER_10]: But yeah, I mean, there's tons, you know, more of this.
[SPEAKER_10]: I want to also play Gavin Newsom, governor of this great state of California.
[SPEAKER_10]: He recently went on Van Latham's show.
[SPEAKER_10]: And Van Lietham is a really funny guy and a good political commentator, but mostly just hilarious, too, who has a great podcast, and he was able to get Gavin on and he asked him some real questions, and I have to say, I've never, like, I already don't trust Gavin Newsom.
[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, but then watching him squirm his way through questions about apac, I think, discuss it in me beyond anything I've seen him say thus far.
[SPEAKER_10]: So let me, let me play a little bit of this is Gavin talking about apac.
[SPEAKER_05]: Apac.
[SPEAKER_10]: I will not vote for a candidate that takes one dollar from APEC to understand I mean it's interesting to even thought about APEC and it's interesting you're like the first to bring up APEC in years which like are we I'm sorry I was sitting here for the first time going APEC what to what is it I've never I've just weird I've never even thought
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't even thought about that before.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's weird, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: I want to see how many times you can.
[SPEAKER_06]: I want to see how many times you can use the word interesting in the answer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, check this out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why?
[SPEAKER_04]: Not relevant to my day-to-day life.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, which is just interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: Listen.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: You say that.
[SPEAKER_04]: J-pack perhaps more, but A-pack less and less.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fair enough, which is this interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: What they're interesting about.
[SPEAKER_04]: That it's just interesting as you bring up A-pack that it hasn't been part of, I'm just reflecting quite openly and honestly, hasn't been part of the day-to-day.
[SPEAKER_10]: So what's actually disgusting about that is number one.
[SPEAKER_10]: What's interesting about it to him is he is 100% implying that van is asking a Lazy anti-Semitic question.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, it's really interesting.
[SPEAKER_10]: You would bring up a pack.
[SPEAKER_10]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know It's very very fascinating that you would think that that has anything to do with Politics in California and then he goes on to say well, maybe if you were talking about Jaypac, which is of course in California
[SPEAKER_10]: is our well-funded Israel lobby.
[SPEAKER_10]: JPEC is the California APEC essentially.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, you know, like these groups APEC at this point is a blanket name for the Israel lobby.
[SPEAKER_10]: APEC is multiple different organizations and an organization, but the Israel lobby spans everything.
[SPEAKER_10]: So at this point, I forgive anyone who calls the Israel lobby APEC.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's interesting that you ask about APEG, I mean, I think about JPEG all the time, but they're funders and supervisors and the people who give them their marching orders and the umbrella organization to which they belong.
[SPEAKER_06]: I want to channel my best P.O.E.
[SPEAKER_06]: Herman.
[SPEAKER_06]: Will it still happen the governor that you just said, our secret word!
[SPEAKER_06]: and the chair is flapping up and down.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that's very actual.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_19]: I love what we said that it's not part of the day today.
[SPEAKER_19]: Like, you know, I mean, they paint advance like what?
[SPEAKER_19]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's not a day to day paycheck.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's, uh, what's the year?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, once you, yeah, every couple of years, we, I get an influx as soon as there is, uh, let's say, I don't know if I can, an election coming up.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, he's sitting there pretending.
[SPEAKER_10]: that APEC is some weird question that anyone would ask right now in the middle of a genocide, he continues to talk about the weirdness of asking any questions about this in this next clip, in which he's asked about a possible weapons ban.
[SPEAKER_10]: And here is that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you in favor?
[SPEAKER_05]: of halting military assistance to Israel.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, timing is a curious one when the precipice of a phase one deal that was announced today in a ceasefire.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, the, the, so like starting off with that, oh, it's interesting timing that you would ask about this when Trump, who I hate by the way, just took care of this for me.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And this is your point, Matt, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: The Democrats love blaming Trump for everything that goes wrong.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, right.
[SPEAKER_06]: But when it comes time to him giving them cover.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that he's the, you know, he's given them the pretext to say, let's not talk about this anymore, because our dear fearless leader has taken care of it for us.
[SPEAKER_06]: No longer problem.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it's, it's, it's extra disgusting because of the fact that they, you know, they are given this opening even in a completely cynical person.
[SPEAKER_10]: I would accept the like political posturing where you're going to say, because Trump
[SPEAKER_10]: is bad, and I hate everything he does, you could take this opportunity to show yourself as the political opposition to this.
[SPEAKER_10]: This ceasefire is bullshit, which it is.
[SPEAKER_10]: The status quo, even if it was a dream come true, it would just maintain the status quo of an apartheid state.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like, you can take that position now, because,
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, literally as soon as Trump became president, did you notice one by one celebrity started talking about, you know, Israel doing a genocide or being bad in some way, including some far-left members of the Democratic Party?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_10]: All of a sudden it became a little bit more politically feasible.
[SPEAKER_10]: We were in that moment now.
[SPEAKER_10]: your in that moment and instead what does he do he deflects a question about a weapons band to Israel by saying well why would you ask that when we're about to like have peace like can you just like he's almost mad that he didn't schedule the interview for after the piece agreement was signed so that he was just me he just means you can continue arming Israel but nobody will make like
[SPEAKER_19]: Yes, you know, fuss about it.
[SPEAKER_19]: That's piece to this question.
[SPEAKER_10]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's very curious.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's very curious.
[SPEAKER_06]: You would say that.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, it's very interesting.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, just interesting.
[SPEAKER_06]: The subject of a movie called co-existence is my ass when co-existence is the best thing ever.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, with, you know, Gavin Newsson being such a handsome guy, I'm going to, I'm going to start calling him curious, Gorge.
[SPEAKER_19]: Oh, it's not a day-to-day thing.
[SPEAKER_19]: Like the weapon.
[SPEAKER_19]: It's not like Israel is, you know, it's like America is giving Israel weapons like on a day to day basis.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't think about it in a minute.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a minute basis.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, it's one of you say that because listen to the rest of the story.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is over.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So look, no, I'm not prepared to say that I would support a blanket exemption for military support of Israel.
[SPEAKER_04]: An exemption?
[SPEAKER_04]: That said, I've been very vocal in my opposition to BB Netanyahu.
[SPEAKER_04]: when it gets into the nuances, and I know there was a bill in Congress on this, but a blanket restriction, I would have a difficult time supporting, but to eliminate support across the board is something to me, is a bridge too far.
[SPEAKER_04]: Conditioning in a thoughtful way with a flexibility of
[SPEAKER_04]: conditions that are changing on an hourly or daily basis or weekly basis as we're like, they're just going out with his own Gaza, but what's happening?
[SPEAKER_04]: Lebanon?
[SPEAKER_19]: What's his fetish with the daily basis?
[SPEAKER_10]: What's going on?
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, if we, he's just, you know, he doesn't think about Israel on daily basis, but he doesn't think about like day to day being able to arm Israel based on the flexible, you know, you gotta be flexible enough to give Israel weapons on an hourly basis.
[SPEAKER_06]: From 2 p.m. to 4 p.m. today, we're gonna send them a day as worth of weapons.
[SPEAKER_06]: You never know.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're gonna be in the 6 p.m. we're gonna reduce it.
[SPEAKER_19]: During their love student at the two from four, you can't have that much noise.
[SPEAKER_06]: And on the seventh day, God banned weapons to Israel.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's just, oh, God, man.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just like, I cannot stand that level of like democratic, focused group cowardice where you're just like, listen, I believe in respecting the nuances of giving guns and ammo to Israel at any time they ask for it.
[SPEAKER_10]: just be honest just be honest and this last clip I'm gonna play is from the breakfast club from you know potential VP who didn't make it, Josh Shapiro out of Pennsylvania, he went out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, Jew, they don't want you to be the vice president of the end of the day.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, they hate you, they hate you, they hate you for being from Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_06]: They say they prefer a populist tremendous soda.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's right, I just love, you know, either hate you because Netanyahu also lived in Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, so here is Josh Shapiro talking to Charlemagne, the G slash D. There it is right here.
[SPEAKER_02]: The article in the New York Times about Democrat pulling away from APEC.
[SPEAKER_02]: So clearly, it's having some impact on them politically of D,
[SPEAKER_12]: I think it's become a political issue.
[SPEAKER_12]: You've used it as a political issue.
[SPEAKER_12]: You've questioned federal representatives when they're on here.
[SPEAKER_12]: I think it's a little bit of a shortcut in a little bit of a lazy question.
[SPEAKER_12]: I think the better question is, how do you really feel about Israel?
[SPEAKER_12]: How do you feel about a two-state solution?
[SPEAKER_12]: How do you feel about the war?
[SPEAKER_12]: How do you feel about, you know, am I reading too much into it?
[SPEAKER_06]: Well listen,
[SPEAKER_06]: most popular black radio host in America.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a lazy question.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, I'll be honest, I cut out the part where you said, I hope this doesn't offend you.
[SPEAKER_10]: Just to get to the that explanation quicker.
[SPEAKER_10]: But I love that he's like, what I'm sort of a shiftless kind of lay about question.
[SPEAKER_10]: So I'm a
[SPEAKER_10]: Listen, I hope this doesn't offend you, but this is a type of question that someone would ask if they had an extra muscle in their calf that made them jump higher.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_10]: This is some question and don't be offended by this, but like certain people when I measure their skulls ask this question.
[SPEAKER_06]: That question's been encouraging itself on chicken for way too long.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, this question is sort of a likes to date like the fact that he just calls him to his face lazy and also listen.
[SPEAKER_10]: There are such things as lazy questions.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's just not necessarily racialized to say a question is lazy to anyone.
[SPEAKER_10]: The idea that it is lazy to ask someone a question about APAC is, I'm sorry, him being racist and lazy, and lazy, because it doesn't want to work at the answer.
[SPEAKER_10]: And his answer seems to be thus far.
[SPEAKER_10]: Why ask about APEC when instead, you could ask people, maybe they just truly believe in Israel's right to do all this, which is like, it's such a funny, like, deflection, because it's like, that isn't the question.
[SPEAKER_10]: The question is about whether or not you or anyone who is taking money from a lobbyist is somehow now compromised, because they are taking money
[SPEAKER_10]: And it's just, he's like, no, you should ask me another question, like, do I believe in Israel's right to exist?
[SPEAKER_10]: Can you ask me a less upedy question?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: Hostages or hungry kids or whatever, I think, I think demanding answers on those questions is more important than that's a different fucking question.
[SPEAKER_12]: Hey, what about this lobbying group or that lobbying group?
[SPEAKER_06]: What about this lobby or that lobby that might be influencing you, Josh Shapiro, make Palestinians go hungry and to threaten the possibility of the hostages wherever we're going to be returning a lot.
[SPEAKER_10]: And Charlemagne doesn't miss a beat.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's asking, he is a great interviewer, he's asking all of these questions right after.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what do you say to the critics who argue that U.S. foreign policy on Israel is often shaped, not by national interests, but by the lobbying screen of these, you know, I think that's a fair conversation to have.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's the conversation he is trying to have.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a question.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's definitely a question.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, how is it lazy just a second ago?
[SPEAKER_10]: And now you're like, well, that's a pretty good question.
[SPEAKER_12]: Of course he's gonna but that's all he can just a little lazy to say oh, it's got to be because of that interest group Maybe someone actually believes those those views or maybe someone feels strongly about that particular way It was famously lazy academic Steve Walton John Mirishan
[SPEAKER_12]: an elected official to get millions of dollars from corporate donors are even lobbying interests and still really worked for the people, over those yeah look I mean you've asked me a few questions on that and clearly I know you're bothered by that I think we're all bothered by the amount of money in politics but I think
[SPEAKER_10]: I love that projection, by the way, clearly you're very bothered by, you know, the money in politics.
[SPEAKER_10]: We're all bothered by it.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's like Josh Shapiro, clearly you are very bothered by asking, being asked questions about taking money from the Israel lobby.
[SPEAKER_10]: And his deflection is essentially, no, it doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_10]: I would do this for free.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, it's like that's another it's like Daniel's it's like Daniel's what you said before about the sexting it's like you say to your partner.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're clearly very bothered about me You don't stick with other That's right and and it's and it's it's all this other move that these especially democratic politicians love to do Which is to say you're clearly bothered perhaps suspiciously so
[SPEAKER_06]: by this specific thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we're all bothered by some generalized like zoo-doubt version of it.
[SPEAKER_06]: So in the case of the sexting, it would be like, you're clearly very bothered by this baseless accusation of me sexting with another woman.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look, we're both bothered by the overuse of our phones in this relationship, you know, like we're all concerned that there's too much texting generally going on.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're not spending enough time together in person.
[SPEAKER_10]: And too much screen time in society in general.
[SPEAKER_10]: Listen, we all have problems.
[SPEAKER_10]: God damn, and you know, he's just like sitting there, you know, Charlemagne has another great question, which is like, is it possible to take the money from these lobbyists to represent their interests while at the same time representing the interests of your actual constituents?
[SPEAKER_10]: and Joshua Perigos.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, that's what I do, you see.
[SPEAKER_10]: I make both things work.
[SPEAKER_10]: I have a constituent base that is democratic and is a majority against sending weapons to Israel.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's one part, and then I have this lobby that's given me money to keep sending weapons to Israel.
[SPEAKER_06]: I take the money from the ethno-nationalist advocacy group, but really it's no tzita-tetched, you know.
[SPEAKER_10]: I like it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Did you hear that CTC joke?
[SPEAKER_10]: No?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was like no strings attached.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I like this.
[SPEAKER_10]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_19]: I wasn't listening.
[SPEAKER_19]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, it's okay.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm also tired of us.
[SPEAKER_11]: Can you repeat?
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can go, but you can watch the episode, no.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a lie.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a lie recording.
[SPEAKER_06]: You missed it for a time.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not too much.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's late.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's late where you are.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was kind of a lazy joke, honestly.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's kind of lazy.
[SPEAKER_19]: Well, are you, you're clearly bothered by the fact that you made a lazy joke?
[SPEAKER_19]: And I wasn't paying attention.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're clearly bothered by the fact that I wasn't listening to you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look, we're all bothered by hearing loss.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, yeah, we all have a sufficient hearing loss.
[SPEAKER_10]: All right, let's just play a little bit more of this.
[SPEAKER_12]: The voters, I'll just speak to Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_12]: They're smart.
[SPEAKER_12]: They know who's on their side.
[SPEAKER_12]: They see it.
[SPEAKER_12]: I got voters who sometimes show up and vote for, probably, and sometimes vote for Democrats, but overall, I think voters are a lot smarter and they can see through that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, I totally went to the Barack Obama School of Oratory.
[SPEAKER_10]: 100% and he is just doing an Obama impression.
[SPEAKER_19]: That means...
[SPEAKER_19]: That means you're a lame politician, if people sometimes vote for Republicans also vote for you, and you're right.
[SPEAKER_10]: And beyond that, also, like his main point there is just like, you know, basically Charmin's asking if that money dictating policy, if that matters to voters and doesn't that affect, you know, your own decision making politician, and he's going, listen, guys.
[SPEAKER_10]: voters are smart.
[SPEAKER_10]: They can see through when someone is just serving the interests of the lobby.
[SPEAKER_10]: And when someone is like me, really good at dodging questions about serving the interests of the lobby.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I love
[SPEAKER_10]: because that is just dripping with the stain in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, his, his like condescending voters are smart enough to know the difference.
[SPEAKER_10]: And he's just patting himself on the back for the fact that he continues to fool his own constituents.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, again, after poll, after poll, actual Democratic voters, uh, vast majority are like, I do not look at Israel favorably.
[SPEAKER_10]: And what approval weapons ban?
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it's just fucking ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got to finish off taking the money, it's just that when you take the money and you're beholding to them.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I would tell the elected official.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to be beholding to them.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: But I can tell, there's not one donor, one group or whatever that I go.
[SPEAKER_12]: Oh, man, I got to please them.
[SPEAKER_12]: So I'm going to do something that I disagree with.
[SPEAKER_12]: I wouldn't be able to live in myself.
[SPEAKER_12]: I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.
[SPEAKER_10]: people are going to people who always assume it's a pectoral, a pectoral is the boogie man in all of politics, it's code for a lot, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just wanted to just to his face, it's code to his face calling a man to semetic saying that anyone who asks him about a pack is anti-semetic and also him sitting there going, it's code is code for your
[SPEAKER_10]: It's cold like the initialist like a pack stands for something
[SPEAKER_06]: What could it be going for?
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_10]: Hey, hey, hey, Jew.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, hey, Jew.
[SPEAKER_10]: Hey, hey, Jew.
[SPEAKER_10]: All because you want to support Israel for money or not, I mean, I can't imagine, like, what it's like to be either van or Charlotte main to have to sit there and kind of parse through the, like,
[SPEAKER_10]: Like I see this and I clearly know exactly what the fuck these people are saying like they're both Telling their interviewer your line of questioning is racist or or is anti-Semitic and like Just to be either one of them and have to like sit there They may not know off the bat like is this motherfucker calling me a fucking anti-Semite because I asked him about a lobby group that he does take money from
[SPEAKER_10]: Like, you know, I'm not sure if they're sitting there as
[SPEAKER_10]: infuriated as I am, but I'm watching this with fucking like clenched fists, especially him sitting there going like it's not like you know everyone's sitting around going oh there's this one lobby group that is uh I really got a you know please and it's like how many different politicians were on record in uh Walt and mere shimmers book the Israel lobby and have been on record on american news talking about the amount of pressure
[SPEAKER_10]: from a pack and from various different uh... it is real ad vacancy groups like who are you fucking kidding it's infuriating and i think that you and i have this in common when democrats do this shit it's
[SPEAKER_06]: it extra gets our go because of the hypocrisy and the sanctimony and the evasiveness and the key and easy to overlook role they play in making this possible not to mention the fact that it's Josh Shapiro's party that was the primary party too the beginning of this genocide.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I'm because time zones are anti-Semitic and they hate you.
[SPEAKER_06]: It is very late where you are
[SPEAKER_06]: And we should probably let you go and maybe call this an episode.
[SPEAKER_06]: What do you think, man?
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that's been an episode.
[SPEAKER_19]: I really, I miss you guys, it's so much fun talking to you, and this place and your place is so horrible that we can just have material and go on for days and weeks, day by day, like the other guys that are in the spaces.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's right, we have the flexibility, you know, every hour, every day, we get a little
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm excited to see your film next week, New York City at the IFC Center.
[SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, and people can go online on coexistencemyas.com and there's like so many cities and so many screenings and yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, do not type in coexistence in my ass.com.
[SPEAKER_06]: That will take you to a very different website.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I'll take you to my personal website.
[SPEAKER_10]: So don't click on that.
[SPEAKER_10]: But we will have a link to the movie, to the trailer, to where people can get tickets, and also to your social media.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, I'm always a pleasure talking to you.
[SPEAKER_19]: Thanks so much.
[SPEAKER_19]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_19]: I'm looking forward for next time.
[SPEAKER_10]: Immediately.
[SPEAKER_19]: Maybe one day we'll be good Jews, and we'll do good Hasbarra.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, that would be so sick.
[SPEAKER_10]: That would be just to do good.
[SPEAKER_10]: Good house bar.
[SPEAKER_10]: I would just watch some good house bar It would be nice just someone with a new fucking argument would be great and I mean you are doing I mean no you're not you're doing bad as barob
[SPEAKER_19]: Thank you for being good Jews.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, thank you.
[SPEAKER_10]: That is something.
[SPEAKER_10]: I thank you for coming on and thank you to all of you out there listening, uh, patreon.com slash bad as barra.
[SPEAKER_10]: That is barra at gmail.com for all your questions, comments and concerns.
[SPEAKER_10]: All right, everyone.
[SPEAKER_10]: Thanks again so much for listening and until next time from the river to the sea.
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