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[SPEAKER_09]: John did not mean to make you do a spit taker, but already you know it's uh it happened sometimes it is a Tuesday after all here at the politics bar and uh we only have one yesterday so two you know it is Tuesday sometimes people do a two for Tuesday we have a very very special guest today actor musician director writer and uh activist extraordinaire Tim Ross is going to be in the house today so we're we're pretty

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[SPEAKER_09]: We don't know when, but figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So it's been a busy day.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You actually had fun this morning.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I heard you over at Steph's place.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You and everybody else sitting there and doing the politics bar.

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[SPEAKER_13]: The only one without a microphone is Lonnie.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Right, which is, it makes it actually more funny because, you know, they, they keep wanting Lonnie to say the politics bar and yet he doesn't have a microphone.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's even when he said it.

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[SPEAKER_13]: He'd have to yell it and it wouldn't sound the same.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Well, politics bar.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, it's kind of it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So that was good.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Jeff on with Bob and David today.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yes, and they said that tab might be coming back.

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[SPEAKER_13]: So that brings me joy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No way.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, Coca-Cola is there's there's been a whole movement for the last five years.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I was a part of it at the beginning and a huge movement of bringing back tab.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And so they've brought it back to tasting rooms at Coca-Cola.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, which means they obviously still have the formula.

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[SPEAKER_13]: They obviously still don't have to make it, um, do I?

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[SPEAKER_13]: Uh, so that's a positive sign that they might bring it back.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Did you, did you know we have some audio from the tasting room there at Coke?

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[SPEAKER_09]: No.

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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm all about having fun.

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[SPEAKER_12]: You know, we'll get a couple cocktails and we start a fire in someone's kitchen.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I thought it's kitchen.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You know, the people they get in those tasting rooms are kind of like the people they get at screeners.

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[SPEAKER_09]: They just grab them off the streets and they're like, you know, hey, come in and watch this have a drink.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It'll be fun.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It'll be fun.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Keep drinking.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Keep drinking and then somebody finally says, no.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And then it's done.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Sorry, a little fun with a button machine today because we can do that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It is after all at Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We hope your Tuesday has been pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I am mixed in my results about the news for today, Jody.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You know, it's full of half fascism.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But remember, half fascism is half fascism.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's half as fascism.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's half way there.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But the other part of it is, I mean, you know, the weather is not bad and a lot of places here in the US, which is okay.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That said, you know, things are not great with the shutdown, the Trump Republican shutdown is still dragging on.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Funny thing is, though, is that Democrats are still holding solid Republicans are starting to bend.

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[SPEAKER_13]: They are.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We've been hearing for a couple of days now that they were about to bend.

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[SPEAKER_09]: They were thinking about, oh, there's some discussion.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Now there's a link in the news on tap.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You guys can go read the story a couple of different stories there.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Basically saying that center Republicans are saying, oh, we'll vote immediately on paying these people.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Some Republicans are floating a longer stop gap bill.

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[SPEAKER_09]: They're talking about, oh, maybe we'll actually do the ACA subsidies.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And all of this stuff is out there in the open.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So it's not, you know, they can no longer be like, oh, yeah, Democrats, you suck.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You shut up, we're not gonna do anything.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Unless, of course, you know, you happen to be the clueless John Thun who thinks, well, we don't really have to negotiate.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We've done enough, right?

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[SPEAKER_09]: Right, right, right, right here.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I've got this on the DVR.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I think we are, we haven't negotiated.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what the rest of negotiate.

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[SPEAKER_07]: This is about opening up the government.

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[SPEAKER_07]: We have offered them several offerings now.

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[SPEAKER_07]: The Democrats want something that's totally untenable.

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[SPEAKER_09]: No, the Democrats do not want something that's totally untenable.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You know, it's Democrats want, Joe, we've been talking about this, right?

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[SPEAKER_09]: One of the three things that the Democrats want to open up the government.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, they want to make sure that the Republicans are going to do what they agree to do.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That's number one, correct?

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[SPEAKER_09]: No, too.

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[SPEAKER_13]: They would like the subsidies, of course, but I think it's for the ACA.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, for the ACA.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And what's the third thing?

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[SPEAKER_13]: I forget.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Medicare and Medicare, I want the money back from the big ugly bill that the Republican stole to give a big ass tax cut to the wealthiest people who don't need it, and of course they stole that money from Medicare and Medicaid because stealing from old people and sick people is exactly what Magga Republicans do.

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[SPEAKER_09]: They're good at it.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That's the kind of thing where you're like, give me a break, man.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You people have to have no respect for any damn thing.

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[SPEAKER_09]: which as we are well aware that's pretty much exactly what they've been doing with the White House that his that piss me off so much.

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[SPEAKER_13]: It's not his house.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly, Jody is right.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's not his house, it's our house.

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[SPEAKER_13]: We, we are the ones that can, okay, so Truman had to redo the interior of the house years ago because it was falling apart.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Okay, okay, okay.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But people talked about this and we said that there was the, the commission that deals in DC with with things like the White House and they have to get there.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You know, Trump got around that commission.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's kind of pointed, somebody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: One of his, the guy who always hands him the big ass menu cards and says, here Trump, put your crayon scribble on this, he a point of the guy who said, you know what, ah, it's okay if we knock down the East way, it gives a crap.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We can attack the White House.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, and even, hi, baby, even.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Hello, kitty girl.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Even Donald said he wasn't going to touch the main house.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, but when has Donald Trump ever told the truth?

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, Donald Trump, there are rug stores that do not have as many things lying in it as Donald Trump.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Donald Trump lies more than a rug store.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, Mr. God, Donald Trump lies more than anything.

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[SPEAKER_09]: He is that, I mean, we all know that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Back in the Washington Post was somewhat legitimate, that they did in his first during his first version.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Like over 30,000, 40,000, something like that lies?

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: any who.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So if you guys have not seen or seen the stories or seen the pictures, we've got some links in the second round under Trump's war on history.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Trump, the Trump regime is demolishing part of the East Wing for this stupid ass ballroom that is supposedly being paid for.

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[SPEAKER_13]: by private donations right people who bribe exactly if you work at treasury which is right across from where the demolition is are not allowed to take pictures and post them oh yeah have you have you you've been a dc before oh yeah okay you've been the white house and remember you tell me

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[SPEAKER_09]: Okay, for those of you who may not know the logistics of where these things are placed.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So if you stand in front of the White House, on the street in front of the White House, there is a park directly behind you, that's Lafayette Park, that's Lafayette Square.

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[SPEAKER_09]: where, you know, Trump tried to walk across it and then had the upside down Bible and wanted to gas people.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That was the church that's that's why you're standing.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You're looking at the White House.

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[SPEAKER_09]: There is a park that's right there that's basically about one block deep.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And then on the other side of that block, there's a street and there's the church where Trump held the upside down Bible.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That's that's where that is.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So you're looking at the White House in front of you.

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[SPEAKER_09]: To your left.

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[SPEAKER_09]: there is another building that is the treasury building where there's a statue of Alexander Hamilton out in front of it my cousin there you go you know what I honestly wish your cousin had written in no felons allowed would have been nice anyway so between treasury in the White House that's there there has been a nice grassy area some trees and the east wing of the White House that's where that happens to sit.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That's where they've decided to start knocking this down.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So you're right, the people at Treasury, basically, who are, you know, on that western side of the Treasury building, like I do, is look at their office building.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I'll look at their office window, you know, look from your cubicle, there's the East Wing of the White House.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And they've been told there was a memo, I guess, that was released today or yesterday saying, do not do this without our approval of you doing it.

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[SPEAKER_13]: It's like,

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[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, I'm just going to stand outside if I lived in DC, I'd just be standing out there videoing.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Well, it's just it because you can you can be on the street in front of the White House.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And take pictures.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You can actually be pretty much anywhere on there.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And if you have a telephoto lens, and they can't block you from having that, you can get pictures there.

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[SPEAKER_09]: There's a lot of places you can get pictures of the East Wing of the White House if you know where to stand.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And you're not going to be able to block them all.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But you know, this is, this is the Trump regime.

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[SPEAKER_09]: This is their half-assed fashes.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Because they're so, they're, they're so transparent.

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[SPEAKER_13]: They don't want people seeing what's happening.

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[SPEAKER_09]: They're kind of transparent.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, they're transparent.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We full of crap.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And I think everybody can see that they're full of crap.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I think we all know that that's where they are, that's who they are.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But any who.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, it's a, the one thing that I am,

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[SPEAKER_09]: one of the things.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And it was funny because you know, our friend Joe Walsh, we got to get him back.

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[SPEAKER_09]: He was out there on on his different social media platforms repeating this and he said, you know, if somebody runs, and one of their pieces of their platform is whatever they have built, we're going to knock down that piece of crab ballroom.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We're going to restore the East Wing, the White House, and we're going to restore the Rose Garden of the way it's supposed to be.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And then you're in bird trials and other things.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely, Jody.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But we're definitely going to have to have.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Accountability is the watch word.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Accountability and affordability.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And actually we've got a story.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It happens to be down in the news on tap today here in the election land section.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But really notes that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's a good story.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We'll get to a little bit later.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But I think it's important that people understand when everybody from Zornman, Danny, to Murger Taylor Green.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Understand that those are the two watch

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[SPEAKER_09]: Uh, you would think that the national media would start to learn.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, all they got to learn is two words, affordability and accountability.

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[SPEAKER_09]: They both even start with the letter A. I know it's easy.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Well, they have to be kind of forced fed sometimes because they're like, but if I tell the truth, then I don't get to go to the book party.

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[SPEAKER_13]: one way to put it.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That's, that's, that's often times that's, that's one of the slang things up here.

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[SPEAKER_09]: If you hear if you're in the district in your, at a coffee shop or a restaurant and people are, oh, book party.

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[SPEAKER_09]: There may not even be a book, but sometimes they just refer to it that way, basically, meaning journalists and the politicians and donors that they cover all rubbing elbows and saying, hey, how

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[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, and Lindsay Halligan.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah, that is a whole other story.

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[SPEAKER_13]: It's just hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_09]: She's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_09]: She is she is a very good legal journalist.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And we will have to talk about that too.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Because that is a great story.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That happens to be in the news on tap.

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[SPEAKER_09]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Look, we got Tim Ross coming in, which is pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We're pretty gazed up about that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, yes, yes.

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[SPEAKER_09]: He did start trek, but he's done a whole lot of other things.

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[SPEAKER_09]: He's a really good musician.

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[SPEAKER_09]: In fact, there is a musical movie.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not sure that you're aware that he was in.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We'll talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We'll talk about some of the other projects that he's involved in.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And he knows a lot about politics.

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[SPEAKER_09]: He is a very interested, very informed, very blessed in his opinion about all the stuff that's going on.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Tuesday nights, take a breath and get your drink refresh.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We got the drink in the day coming up a little bit later too.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So hang on.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We're coming back here in just a couple minutes with the one and only Tim Russ at the politics bar.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And it is Tuesday night here at the politics bar.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Thank you very much for hanging out and joining us for doing whatever you're doing and listening to us in the background of your life.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We will, we will get to the drink of the day a little bit later, but right now, you know, we have a very special guest coming into the bar, the one, the only actor musician

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, Tim Russell, you know, he's done Bob Susska's show before, so, you know, now he's just hanging out with us over here, kind of, you know, slumming it over here for him.

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[SPEAKER_09]: How are you doing, Tim?

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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm doing fine.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Man, I honestly Bob we were just to mention this off air that the first time Bob had y'all well back and we asked him because he comes into the bar here regularly and said, you know, hey, he's oh, yeah, you know, which I am Tim Ross and we were just like, no way, man.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So it's pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You are Bob only says that you are very well versed in politics that you know what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I mean, I try to keep up with it as much as possible, and these days, I tend to prefer or focus on the pushback against the regime rather than

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[SPEAKER_08]: you know whatever the regime is doing all the time because there's always going to be a distraction every every week right there has to be a distraction because the psychopath can't sit still that's one of the tricks one of the tricks of being a psychopath is they can't stop in thoughts from doing what they do so he's got to do stuff every week and also to distract from other things he does not want to deal with

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[SPEAKER_08]: Like the Epstein files, you want to keep that story out of them, you know, press as much as possible.

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[SPEAKER_08]: So I tend to focus a little more of these days.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, since in the last couple of three months, since he'd been in office to to the pushback, the way back, the the opposition to the regime, because it just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Did you go to any of the marches or the rallies over the weekend?

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[SPEAKER_08]: Unfortunately, I was working now.

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[SPEAKER_13]: That's good that you're working.

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[SPEAKER_13]: That's always good.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that sounded like a gig and I could not get there.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Now, was it an acting gig?

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[SPEAKER_09]: Was it a directing gig?

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[SPEAKER_09]: Was it a music gig?

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, this was a personal appearance.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, OK. And it was in Minneapolis.

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[SPEAKER_09]: No, it's one of our affiliates as in Minneapolis, so that is great.

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[SPEAKER_09]: A.M. 950 people, Tim Ross, he was just there.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, they had a huge crowd, like really big.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it was not that far from where I was, but I couldn't, I just couldn't get away to get there and get back.

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[SPEAKER_08]: So, and I missed that.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I did give the last one.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And I've done this the ones even before that, so I'm there for all of that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: No, it's great, it's great that you, it's great that you were involved in politics like that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And that you're not afraid of it.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I know that there are some actors.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So we had Martin Schienen here on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And as you know, Martin's very big about very active as his politics.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But there are a lot of actors and musicians who are,

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I'm not sure, you know, what the issue is with that, however, I think we can safely say that most of the people in the entertainment business, the creatives are going to be focused on something like this.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I think more so than I think other areas of our society, there's there's just something about, you know, being a writer or musician and actor, singer dancers, whatever it might be that there's,

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[SPEAKER_08]: The creatives in the world, I think, are just more focused on society and what's doing.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Because as it is, we not only reflect society, but in some cases, we drive the changes in society.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And particularly now, a lot of the, everything from the simple commercials to television shows, the series and films, has pushed in the last five, six years as dramatically changed the images

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[SPEAKER_08]: are now out in the open everything about that the regime and maga trying to put back in the box.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Now it's posed particularly to young people who will see everything as being normal and this is what they fear the most.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It drives me nuts that there's there's a whole group of people who have never really known what I think of as as legitimate or or not really known that much of legitimate sane government Yes, they've been maybe four years under Biden and even then Biden and Harris had to clean up the the mess

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[SPEAKER_08]: So they they've never really had a long period there's a bunch of who never even remember Barack Obama in a White House, which absolutely absolutely I was just thinking of the day because somebody mentioned, you know, that some of the voters there would be voting now were born under his first.

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[SPEAKER_08]: President.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_08]: So those youngens who are either very, very young at their time and certainly weren't involved in politics, and you're nothing about the first term of Trump and everything that went on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And so now all this chaos and craziness.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Well, these young ones are growing up thinking this is normal.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, and a lot of people are thinking, well, this is normal because of their age.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And that's kind of interesting.

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[SPEAKER_08]: On the other side of that, what we just saw in the Paul with the Gen Zs, literally running their government out of the building and then running it down.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And I don't necessarily recommend that per se, but I just, I was up on a piece about Gen Z recently, which I was reading, a survey of Gen Z and boy, let me tell you, they're not happy.

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[SPEAKER_08]: with current state of affairs at all and some of the things, some of the things they suggested, which, which were, you know, some of them were, we would expect, some of them we've been talking about for a while, universal healthcare, being able to afford to buy, property, things like that, being able to buy, you know, but one thing they mentioned,

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[SPEAKER_08]: that they wanted was UN oversight over our court, over our Supreme Court.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_08]: That was very interesting.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I thought was, that's a stupid interest.

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[SPEAKER_08]: How about that?

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Well, you know, looking an ethics committee from the UN looking over the, the, our highest court in the land because it's supposed to be basing their decisions on the constitution.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And it's certainly not, um, that's very interesting.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, interesting.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I'll see them.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I will look for that one because that's it.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, fascinating.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Fascinating.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Speaking of the Supreme Court, they're listening to that case out of Louisiana about voting rights.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And I think they're going to gut it.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I think they're going to

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[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if they're going to gutter or not because we had on, I don't know if you know law dork, Chris Geiner, he's a really good legal journalist.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We had him in here while back here this summer.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I think they're going to try to do what they've done before, which is, I don't know, it might be, might be considered too cute by half, where they try to kind of undue stuff, but not entirely undue stuff, it's, they want to keep

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[SPEAKER_09]: The law itself in, but they want to cut holes in it.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, so it doesn't have any teeth anymore.

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[SPEAKER_08]: There would have no effect in that's not effective.

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[SPEAKER_08]: What was this, what is the, what is the,

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[SPEAKER_08]: the case that I'm sure some rightly asked white brought to the court because they know the Republicans have to get rid of voting.

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[SPEAKER_08]: That's the one thing.

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[SPEAKER_08]: It's the only thing really that they fear the most.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Well, there's the this morning of Harry Anton over at CNN did a did a thing.

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[SPEAKER_09]: There was a it's the regular survey basically where they they survey American voters to find out what your party preferences.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And that tends to correlate over time as to how the next election will go.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And he went through the numbers and he said something like in 2017 the party preference self-identified party preference for Democrats was plus four and then Democrats cleaned up in 2018 and 2021 it was only plus one Democrats, you know, kind of split the bill in 2022.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Right now, same time as the others were judged, Democrats are up seven, which if you translate it and if it does translate, what mean you're looking at a minimum of eight seats that the Democrats would gain in next year's congressional elections.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So, I mean, yes, Republicans are attempting to steal the election next year for Congress, because they know if it's a fair playing field, they're going to get there.

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[SPEAKER_08]: You're going to wait.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And those are primarily house seats.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Is that correct?

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[SPEAKER_08]: Do we have any seats that we can get?

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[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, I think we can get some Sanet seats.

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[SPEAKER_13]: She doesn't call it a name one.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Ted Cruz to name another potentially.

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[SPEAKER_13]: We have we have some gains and it's good.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, we need to flip it more.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I want 67 seats in the Senate, but that's just a neat thing.

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[SPEAKER_13]: We could, we could, we could impeach and convict, you know, oh, yeah, follow the yellow brick road exactly exactly.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's, it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Well, the, those are, that is encouraging what, what I, I still can understand, I, I don't understand is why.

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[SPEAKER_08]: why the voters keep going back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I don't understand the back and forth because the roads are littered with dead squirrels who couldn't decide which way to go.

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[SPEAKER_08]: You can't cross the street if you keep going backwards.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_08]: You're never going to get across the street.

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[SPEAKER_08]: You're never going to have anything.

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[SPEAKER_08]: anything that you keep screaming and hollowing about, right?

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[SPEAKER_08]: If you don't vote in the direction that you need to vote in.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, it's just an simple two or three keystrokes on your phone or on a laptop can tell you how many programs have been put forth by the Democratic Party

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[SPEAKER_08]: Right, how many programs the list is ridiculous and it's still, it's not even that long ago, it's still going and yet they keep voting back ass words for the other party, which has no interest whatsoever in any of that stuff part of it, I think is the media.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Jenny and I talk about this regularly around here for 30 plus years.

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[SPEAKER_09]: the right, especially the right wing billionaires, have put money into their alternative media structure.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And there are different measurements that have been done over the last 25, 30 years.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But basically they say anywhere from one to three percent in a major general election that that alternative media can swing things.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Now we all know.

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[SPEAKER_09]: uh... um... come and learn the jerry and ring two i mean jerry and and there's a huge problem a jerry and that that can also be one to three percent common here is lost by less than one percent mm-hmm

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[SPEAKER_09]: So if you just take, you know, because that's, that's, that's the holding United States.

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[SPEAKER_09]: There's no jerrymandering there.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But if you just take, just that and you say, okay, well, it's the media.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Well, if there's a whole parallel media infrastructure, which there is for the right, and that can affect things in a 1 to 3% and she lost by 1%, there's your whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_09]: There's, there's where we lost.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And we lost in part because the people on the left who have the money,

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[SPEAKER_09]: never give it to left-leaning media.

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[SPEAKER_09]: They're like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I want to account for this dollar instance.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And I want to check this penny.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And I don't know if they're going to say anything that might offend me.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's like, oh my God, the Russian billionaires give a billion dollars.

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[SPEAKER_09]: to these propagandists, and they say, look, when the topic of whatever their topic is, whether it's anti-trans or anti-green energy or whatever the topic is of the day, when it comes up on that topic, I need you to talk about it in this way.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And otherwise, say whatever crap you want, here's a million dollars.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And it is, yeah, it is a major, major problem, and things we have to deal with.

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[SPEAKER_08]: landscape of the right-wing media compared to the to progressive media.

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[SPEAKER_08]: There it is a problem.

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[SPEAKER_08]: It is an issue.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I think rush rush was I think he made something like 30 million dollars a year.

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[SPEAKER_12]: Oh, easily.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, like that's obscene amounts of money.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And yet, Stephanie's working out of her basement.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Right, practically.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Go on the air.

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[SPEAKER_08]: The comparison is not even in the ballpark.

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[SPEAKER_08]: So the power of Fox News and Billionaires is to start up a news network, going in, or newsmax, just going to create an entire television network.

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[SPEAKER_08]: got off a lot of money just to be able to do that.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And, you know, plus all the radio stations, plus sing Claire that owns all of the local stations, clear channel, all the radio stations, you know, they've grown a bunch of nonsense and garbage.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I actually used to listen to talk radio on AM, you know, radio.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And I over here in LA and just watched it one by one just completely

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[SPEAKER_08]: And that is absolutely, it's insidious.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And it is for us a major, major issue.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And the dissemination of misinformation and disinformation, that alone.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And propaganda, all three of those things, is just nightmare.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It is, it's horrible.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We've got several of things we love to talk to you about.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Can we grab you for one more round?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_09]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We have a wonderful Tim Russ here.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Actor, musician, director, he said a lot of cool stuff.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Some of which you may know, some of which you may not.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Blask him a little bit about that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And of course, a little bit more about the politics going on because clearly you guys can tell.

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[SPEAKER_09]: The man knows this stuff, he's brilliant.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So, look, what you should do, we're at the break.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You can freshen up your drink.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You can go to the politicsbar.com, go to the store.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Maybe get yourself a new flask or a new shirt.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Like, Jody has on with the politics bar logo on it.

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[SPEAKER_09]: See, there you go, look.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Simple thing to do, go, check that out.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We'll be right back.

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[SPEAKER_09]: More with Tim Russ, here at the politics bar.

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[SPEAKER_11]: On a Tuesday night, hang on.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Tuesday night here at politics bar.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Joey your hair looks fine.

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[SPEAKER_13]: You're always warm in here.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I know it's it's hot because we have brilliance and brilliance creates heat from the top of your head.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We have brilliance from the one the only Tim Ross.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I can out with us here on a Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And I thank you by the way for all of you hanging out with us.

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[SPEAKER_09]: as well.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We were talking to the break a little bit about Stephanie a little bit about Randy and about how some of the things that they have given all of us information wise over the years.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And you were saying to him that in all the years talking about the ACA, which obviously is the key sticking point in the shutdown right now, that you have never heard most people know what the hell death panels were all about.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And that Randy kind of, you know,

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[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know what I'm about.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, it didn't stop the bill from being passed.

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[SPEAKER_08]: It didn't stop the program from being passed.

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[SPEAKER_08]: But it was just an example of propaganda in terms of, they said this was.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And if somebody's just sitting around and they don't check on that.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And that's all the year over and over and over.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Well, it sounds frightening, it sounds horrible.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Why would we want back program?

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[SPEAKER_08]: You know, the same way that they said, you know, Vayner said the whole entire economy would collapse, if we pass the ACA.

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[SPEAKER_08]: It would be, what is it?

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[SPEAKER_08]: Apocalypse is working with.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And Apocalypse, when 31 million people actually get health care.

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[SPEAKER_08]: God forbid, it's translates directly to preventative care.

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[SPEAKER_08]: So that to process right, you avoided the catastrophic illness that we still end up paying for for those people who cannot afford it.

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[SPEAKER_08]: So the whole cost of healthcare comes down.

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[SPEAKER_08]: when you have preventative care that's available to people.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, it's just not Jesus Christ.

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[SPEAKER_09]: No, it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_09]: No, look, it's okay to be frustrated because Lord knows we are.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, we have, you know, we talk about this all the time about how, especially with the shutdown, how so many people have, look, we understand, folks is busy.

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[SPEAKER_09]: They do stuff, they got kids, they got parents, they got, you know, aunties and uncles and people to take care of, but,

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[SPEAKER_09]: Um, it's starting to actually hit to people as the, the notices come out about the increases in the health care cost.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh, yours, Joe, you've, you've, you've, you've mentioned that on a how many different times and how much is yours going up again?

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[SPEAKER_13]: Uh, was 13, 26 and some change a month and it's going up over 1500 and some change a month.

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[SPEAKER_09]: he's lukees jones is small we had on Charles Gabbah who is you know fantastic uh... with the health care data he was talking about how uh... in west virginia an average couple in there let's say mid-up or sixties retired uh... they could see as many as four times as much

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[SPEAKER_09]: for their health care increase.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We've been hearing out of Florida and Georgia.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Georgia, I just want you to agree.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Marjorie Taylor Greene is one of the only house Republicans who is still here in DC, you know, Jody's the LA into the bar, I'm in the DC into the bar.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And here in DC, she's one of the only Republicans here because the rates of the people going up in her counties, the area that she serves is like three, three and a half times, three point seven times.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And the funny thing is, is these Republicans are going, well, maybe we'll start to think about doing the ACA thing.

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[SPEAKER_09]: She's going, there isn't even, when you got everybody from from Marjor Taylor Greene to Hellsorn, Memdani is running in New York City and he's like, why isn't Congress getting back into the ACA?

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[SPEAKER_09]: When you had everybody from Memdani to Greene saying, dude, get back on this and just pass the ACA subsidies.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, you have to expand the ACA.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, in fact, you have to expand it.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, that's all it is.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And it's interesting because I...

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[SPEAKER_08]: I know Obama was talking about when he ran, he talked about more or less universal health care.

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[SPEAKER_08]: He was running on program as much bigger than the ACA, our concept, for example, if you will.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And when he got in, I remember him saying that he had to back off of that because of special if certain interests.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, those interests are, the insurance company.

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[SPEAKER_08]: So if you ask national health care, nationalize health care.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Which, of course, means when you're running nationalized health because there's no profit to be made, there's no shareholders, no CEOs.

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[SPEAKER_08]: It can balance out a zero.

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[SPEAKER_08]: The book's only have to make a profit.

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[SPEAKER_08]: That's the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And you put in the silly and you get out.

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[SPEAKER_08]: If you do that, all of the insurance companies are pretty much going to be gone.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And I'm just assuming that most of the people working for those insurance companies can just float on over to the government program.

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[SPEAKER_08]: and run it under medicare health care, whatever we've got that's if that program is called and take over those jobs.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Now the CEOs, we don't get about that, but everybody else working for them, I'm pretty sure that's what he was talking about or thinking about when, you know, realize that it's going to be pretty tricky to try to do that.

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[SPEAKER_08]: We do need it and that's what would be a major, I mean, but that would be like unbelievable in terms of a transition for our

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[SPEAKER_08]: For other developed nations, they're not a problem, they've been doing it, but for our country to do that, that's a huge, huge thing, they would be great, but it's, you know, that's a heavy, then you can't get that heavy lift as you have people in the bloody house and Senate.

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[SPEAKER_08]: and a president that could sign the bill.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, the thing, the thing is is like in England and in Canada and in other developed countries that have basically a universal healthcare type system, they also can have private.

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[SPEAKER_13]: You can have concierge service, you know, and that way, the private insurance industries still have the wealthy people saying, well, I want this and that and the other thing.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And then the rest of us who can't afford that, we're still getting our healthcare.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, I'm...

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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I'm literally going to talk to my doctor in January when I see her from my checkup and just ask her point blank.

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[SPEAKER_13]: How much would it cost me to come to you twice a year like I do?

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[SPEAKER_13]: out of pocket without insurance that I just pay you directly because $1,500 a month.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I'm not utilizing $1,500 a month in insurance and I'll just get a basically a catastrophic plan that includes prescriptions and that's all I- My brother, one of my brother was teaching English in Germany to high school students.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Um, he was always raving about the health care system there and he said, look, you could get if your family has a history of cancer, you can get specific cancer insurance that goes above and beyond what's covered by the government.

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[SPEAKER_09]: If, you know, you have this particular genetic disposition, you can buy extra insurance if you want.

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[SPEAKER_09]: but the basics and even a little bit more are covered by everybody and in doing that the course I mean yeah he'd he'd go to go to the optometrist or ophthalmologist whatever it is and get his eyes checked and get new glasses and stuff it's like 10 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, and that's your thing.

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[SPEAKER_13]: We can, I mean, it's something Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders have tried to sell this to the country saying, look, yes, your taxes will go up ever since lately, but you don't have to pay $500,000, $2,000 a month in a premium and the copays and all the other things on top of that, your annual bill will go way down if we just

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[SPEAKER_13]: provide Medicare for all.

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[SPEAKER_13]: We tried to do the public option.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Thank you, Joe Lieberman, for not letting us do that.

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[SPEAKER_13]: So, because I would, and the other thing is if we were to do say a public option, then every doctor on the, in the country should have to take that insurance.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And of course, all of us, a little bit more taxes.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And some of us in the top 5% could pay a lot more, right?

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[SPEAKER_08]: I think

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[SPEAKER_13]: 90% they were taxed at 90% as a top tax rate was 90% under 90% and corporate taxes were big too.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I just saw on a sub stack I saw Jared Bernstein was talking about that with God was a Bobby Cogan, another great guy who's another great economic person.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And they were literally talking about one of the big problems that we have right now in the US is the fact that the corporate tax rate and the wealthy tax rate are

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[SPEAKER_09]: It has snuggled at exactly at ridiculous levels, or ridiculously low levels.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And they said, if we just put them back up, even where some of the other countries that we compare ourselves to are, we could do so much more.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, like mountains, more.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Of course, close the loopholes in all the, you know, they can't have a 35% tax rate, but because of all the loopholes, they pay some time zero high Jeff Bezos.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And others, they just don't pay that money because if how they can work this, they hire tax accountants at millions of dollars a year, so they don't have to pay tens of millions of dollars a year.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Absolutely, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And we don't have enough people in the IRS to do the audits.

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[SPEAKER_08]: because it's so complicated, you know.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_08]: The tax from those structures.

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[SPEAKER_08]: So that would have to be simplified and and simply the Lupos closed and this is what you got to pay.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_08]: You know, here's how much it is, which again, you know, it's like.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Give me a million dollars and see how much I give a rat's ass on what the tax is at the end of the year.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I would love to be in a text project like that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: If I had an exact, if I had a billion dollars, I would absolutely give that to you, Tim.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I do know you've been, you've been working on a few projects.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We've got links to your website up in the guest section at the news on tap today.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I know there is a third season of bloomers.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I didn't know you were involved in that because I know you directed, I think, the first two.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And some of the third season as well, about half the third season.

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[SPEAKER_08]: We had several directors on that third season.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And there were two directors on the first and second.

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[SPEAKER_08]: That was done as a web series.

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[SPEAKER_08]: The third season just got released in 12-sided die, which is another web series.

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[SPEAKER_08]: I directed all the episodes of that.

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[SPEAKER_08]: That's going to be released fairly soon as well.

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[SPEAKER_08]: It's about gaming these friends.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Do you need comments to feed these up?

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And it's about a group of friends to do that.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And it's their relationships and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_08]: It's a comedy.

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[SPEAKER_08]: It's very funny.

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[SPEAKER_08]: It's cute.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's cool.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You've done you've done so many cool things.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You know, I know obviously.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, look, we love obviously what you've done with Star Trek.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, there's no lie on that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's, you know, hello.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's great.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But I was I was looking and I finally something that I actually realized today when I knew that you were coming in because I was like, Oh, he's done music and I was like, Okay, this is cool.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And I just I did a quick Google and it was like Tim Russ Robert Johnson and I'm like, Wait a minute.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_09]: And then I'm like oh, yeah, you did you did crossroads right way back.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I loved that movie I know some people are like I just kind of she I loved that movie and I you know Honestly, I love Robert Johnson's old stuff So it was when I sat there and I listened and I was like okay, so then I had to listen to your version Versus Robert Johnson's version Claped in there.

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[SPEAKER_08]: He can do it Yeah, yeah, I had to learn Robert Johnson's version with slide guitar and D tuning and things like that for it for the film

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[SPEAKER_08]: very very different than the style that I do obviously because his period in time was very different.

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[SPEAKER_08]: He was a solo guitarist and a improvise a lot of his material.

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[SPEAKER_08]: So he could sing in whichever way he wanted to.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but your version of his song of his version of that was I mean is really good.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You are a really excellent musician.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if everybody you recognize that, but they should.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Just a year.

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[SPEAKER_08]: So I've been going for a really long time.

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[SPEAKER_13]: You don't look old enough to have been doing it that long.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Well, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_08]: It started when I was 16.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Damn.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Damn.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That is crazy.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Because I would not have, I would not have clocked your age that way either.

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[SPEAKER_09]: My brain is like, no, Tim can't be that old.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You know?

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[SPEAKER_09]: He says in his 50s like us.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You know?

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[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I am a little bit of guaranteed.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And it's got a few other, a few other years under your belt.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and it just makes it much more difficult for me to have to.

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[SPEAKER_08]: you know, to realize what's happening now.

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[SPEAKER_08]: When I lived through the 60s and 70s and I knew and I witnessed what was happening, you know, that whole transition at the whole time when everything was turned upside down, it's a society was just, you know, they were split, there was a lot of turmoil, you know, the major difference of course was that, you know, at that time you had three networks and, you know, they would all report that the house is on fire, you know, we're supposed to

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[SPEAKER_08]: some of the networks would report that the house is not on fire when in fact it is.

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[SPEAKER_08]: So that's that's the main thing but we came out of that turmoil with a society very much changed in a very positive way and I mean it was a big leap to another plateau which would have not gone that way had we not had that turmoil.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So maybe so many things can actually end up going in a good direction from all of this.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Let's hope.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I'll be possible.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I saw two women the other day in their late 70s saying I was doing this 60 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Why do I still have to do this?

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[SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I'm really hopeful that it will get better.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Tim, Tim, love having you here, man.

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[SPEAKER_09]: This is fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Could we invite you back to the bar in another point in time?

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[SPEAKER_08]: We're going to have to eat.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, excellent.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Tim Ross, thank you so much.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Look, if you guys missed anything, we have some links in the guest section of the news on tap.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Tim is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Thank you very much, man.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We will say hello and pass on your good wishes to Bob Cesca and Stephanie Miller.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And Laude.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We got the drink of the day still coming up.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We've got more news on tap.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So look, fresh enough to drink and come on back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We'll be right back after we've

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[SPEAKER_00]: You think it's a far away, but you are the politics bar.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Shotsmith, Pearson, Showy Hamilton.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You're the only one you do on today.

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[SPEAKER_09]: How is your the rest of your Tuesday after that wonderful interview with Tim Ross fantastic He's great.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I love we've said this before that you know even famous people are just people And especially the fact when they are extremely well informed people when they know their politics which Tim clearly does you

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[SPEAKER_09]: You can check out, we've got several links in the guest section of the news on tap today, so you can go down and you can check out links to the things that Tim is doing.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And I definitely recommend, if you, if you haven't looked at Tim's music, you definitely should have.

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[SPEAKER_13]: We've got to see him play.

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[SPEAKER_13]: We've got to see him play live.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, which, I mean, you know, it's, it's Tim.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Tim, plus he likes Bobby, just references Stephanie and everybody's, you know, he's like, ah, we know that Tim is one of us here at the bar and we're pretty glad about it.

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[SPEAKER_13]: One of us, one of us.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Thank you, by the way, to all the radio stations who are also one of us.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It glinted the folks who were at AM-950 in Minneapolis, St. Paul, and the folks at Georgia now in the A.T.L.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We're talking Tennessee, and of course at AM-820 Chicago, W.C.P.T.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And of course, thank you very much to the folks of progressive radio worldwide as well.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yes, thank you very much.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We like that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Uh, something else we like.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We like drinks.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We like the drink of the day.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We could we could talk about the drink of the day today, because I think that

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[SPEAKER_09]: What's, what's the word that I'm looking for?

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[SPEAKER_09]: The rapturous.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Or judgmental one of the two.

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[SPEAKER_09]: This is true.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Although, I've always heard being judgmental is not good.

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[SPEAKER_13]: If you're a judge, that wasn't that your job.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I suppose.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I mean.

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[SPEAKER_09]: No, this is true.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Although you wouldn't want a mental judge as someone true.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_13]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_13]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_13]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Uh, so the drink of the day today, what is it, Jody?

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[SPEAKER_09]: And what is it inspired by?

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[SPEAKER_13]: It's called a judgment day cocktail.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And it's inspired by the fact that the rapture didn't happen today in 2011.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And I remember that day vividly.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I had a part, I think it was on a Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Remember the day that the rapture didn't happen?

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[SPEAKER_09]: Were you like standing around going, hello?

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[SPEAKER_13]: Hello.

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[SPEAKER_13]: We had a party at my house.

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[SPEAKER_12]: Seriously?

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[SPEAKER_13]: I believe it was a Saturday because, yeah, people that, you know, I didn't have a day job at the time, but everybody else did.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And no, actually, you did have a day job then.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And so we were joking that we would just take clothing and just put it on sidewalks.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, so people would walk by and go, oh my god, we never captured.

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[SPEAKER_13]: So yeah, it didn't happen.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Nor is it happened.

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[SPEAKER_13]: It wasn't supposed to happen last month again.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, somebody is always like the rapture is coming.

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[SPEAKER_09]: The rapture is coming and I can't remember the exact script.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You'll have to ask John a few of us saying about that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But there isn't a line I remember in the Bible that says, something about the fact of you will not know when the day or night is, you know, when the time is.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So all these people who are always like, well, I know when the day or the night of the time is.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And they also say, you know, I believe in every word the Bible says.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's like those people who, um, I saw this truck back in Iowa back in the day when I was in college, had two different bumper stickers on it.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's said, um, Hillary Clinton is a seaword.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And on the other side, it's said, um, Jesus loves everyone.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, the person that the cognitive dissonance is strong.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly, Jodie.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, that that didn't go together.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And obviously, the cognitive dissonance of the the guy who was the the big rapture guy.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You wrote up about it in the drink of the day.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Hurl the camping the doyan of doomsday mongers.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_09]: The number of times that he predicted doomsday.

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[SPEAKER_13]: At least three times.

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[SPEAKER_09]: At least three, you can go through a whole little thing.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We've got a Britain in there about when he said it would happen.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Then he changed the date and then he changed the date again.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Then he changed the date again.

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[SPEAKER_09]: He changed the date again.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, she's and did you ever see the movie the rapture with Mimi Rogers?

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[SPEAKER_09]: Um, I think I saw part of it was like okay.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I've had enough on my sister.

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[SPEAKER_13]: My sister carrying I went to a screening of it.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Like at the DGA or the WGA I forget.

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[SPEAKER_13]: She was invited so she's like you want to come.

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[SPEAKER_13]: So we go and we're sitting in the back of the theater and laughing.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Because it's just it was so bad.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, and Mimi Rogers is right there and David to come to use his character dies early, but I mean, it's just like it was just I know what they wanted to do, but it's so bad.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, and we when we left, we were like hiding our faces because they're all of a sudden lights come up in there the stars of the movie sitting right there.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Sorry, it's a terrible movie and I'm sure they were all embarrassed too, but it was a terrible movie.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Look, look, your judgment on that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Not not wrong.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So what is in a judgment day cocktail?

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[SPEAKER_12]: It's okay.

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[SPEAKER_12]: it's pretty easy.

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[SPEAKER_12]: Okay, so you're pretty easy, but there's a lot of stuff in here.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So there's some semi rare stuff.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So you're not going to, you're not going to have to sacrifice your soul.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You may have to do a little shopping, but you're not going to have to sacrifice your soul to get this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_13]: So true.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And I did get this off of an English website.

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[SPEAKER_13]: So.

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[SPEAKER_13]: The absinthe may be more difficult to get here.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, just to let you guys know.

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[SPEAKER_13]: So you need a chilled coop glass, a shake or some ice, an ounce of barcel most of their day, Italia, Pisco, and there's a link to what that is.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Don't it?

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[SPEAKER_13]: Sixth of an ounce, which is very small, of Luffy, Parisienne absinthe.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Again, this is French version of Absinthe, which means it's got the good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Not the stuff we get, so,

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[SPEAKER_09]: And there's no terror of, well, I mean, there's tariffs now.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So you, you know, anyway, anyway.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And then you need a half ounce of lime juice, freshly squeezed, a half ounce of lemon juice, also freshly squeezed, a quarter ounce of moan and pure cane syrup or whatever simple syrup you've got.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Now this is where you have some choices.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, a half ounce of egg white pasteurized or three dashes of feebrothers fee foam cocktail foam, or which just sounds fun.

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[SPEAKER_09]: or five to five toes fast.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, fee, fee, brother's fee foam cocktail foamer.

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[SPEAKER_13]: That's just fun.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Or apple faba, which is a chickpeak type of water, or an egg white replacement if you're vegan.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Just yeah.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Because this is definitely non-vegan drink, if you make it as it's done.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And then the garnish is a spray, literally a spray, of mentodram, which is a Jamaican-spice licuor.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And we have we have links to all of those.

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[SPEAKER_09]: All these things in there.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, because these are not normal in gradients.

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[SPEAKER_09]: The actual assembly of the ingredients.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's easy though.

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[SPEAKER_13]: You pour all that into a shaker, shake it until it's, you know, cold and then fine screen it into the chilled glass and then garnished with the spray of the Pemento Dram, which is a shk, you know.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Easy to make.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Easy to make hard to find the ingredients necessarily but an easy drink to make.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Well, we tried to make it easy.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You're in remember just you enjoy that drink and you know, if you haven't wrapped sure that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And if you have, just remember we're going to borrow a few things from your house.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We'll take good care.

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[SPEAKER_13]: A couple of things.

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[SPEAKER_13]: There are people that sold stuff last month because they thought they were going to be wrapped sure.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That's for those people who actually thought that was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Anyway, look, if you missed any part of the drink of the day, you guys know what to do, just subscribe at thepaltxbar.com.

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[SPEAKER_09]: All right, back to the news on tap for the day.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, there's obviously, we know that the Trump Republican shutdown is dragging on.

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[SPEAKER_09]: There was some issue I had with a step of the way our fellows in the media reported the story about Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Trump's war on cities is going on and you can check that out.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's in the first subsection in the second round of the news on tap.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So there was a three judge federal panel that included two Trump judges.

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[SPEAKER_13]: It's a nice circuit.

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[SPEAKER_13]: It's usually a liberal.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_09]: A lot of the media was saying, Oh, Trump can now take man of the troops in Oregon and send

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's going on, Bunk.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Here's the first thing.

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[SPEAKER_09]: First of all, the three judge panel that included two Trump judges said that Trump could take command of the Oregon troops, but he could not deploy them.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It's the same ruling that they had in Chicago, meaning that Trump can take control of them but they have to stay where they've been in their temporary barracks.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So he cannot deploy them to Portland, and yet you had everybody from ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, they're all hitting deployed Portland.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Now the cat deployed to Portland.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So that's your first thing that was wrong.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Get a lot of media got wrong.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Second thing was there was a judge.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It wasn't the AG of Oregon.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It was a judge in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Formerly request an on-bank re-hearing.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And in that circuit, that Ninth Circuit, there are 29 judges.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I'm back for those of you who don't remember, that means the entirety of all the judges in that circuit here at, so it went from a three judge panel, it's going to go to a 29 judge panel, and most of those judges overwhelmingly, most of those judges were not appointed by Trump.

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[SPEAKER_13]: And the night is pretty good that that thing is going to knock the hell up so I mean because it's it's against a law I mean that one judge.

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[SPEAKER_09]: She's like this is against law And then they they also thought the Trumpers also thought oh well this means that they can deploy to Washington and other places And she's like oh no no no no no no no exactly exactly this and the thing about there's means it's so much of the media was just Some of them you could tell we're saying oh he can deploy wherever because they're looking to go look up look up look up and scare you

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[SPEAKER_09]: And that's not the case, more than ever, that this is what Tim Russ was saying too.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Earlier, you got to pay attention to the facts and you got to pay attention to the people who are telling you the truth to the details, which is what we try to do in the news on tab.

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[SPEAKER_09]: The Baltics partner.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, and the Chicago PD can now arrest ICE agents.

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[SPEAKER_13]: So there's that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Which is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I look forward to the first arrest, I do.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Hey, look, if you are in ice, if you are in DHS, if you are in CBP, if you are in any government agency and you break the law, just being in a government agency does not allow you to get away with breaking the law.

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[SPEAKER_09]: What's again, Jodie is right.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So look, Illinois also asks the Supreme Court to deny Trump's dramatic request to bypass the lower courts and allow national guard deployment.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And I think the Supreme Court is probably trying to slow walk this and see what the ninth market does.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Probably because if the ninth circuit says with 29 judges, not just no, but hell low,

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[SPEAKER_09]: and outlines things to the ninth to the eighth degree.

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[SPEAKER_09]: The Supreme Court's going to have a real tough time, then, you know, big foot in the middle of that and going, well, we're trying to do that, so I, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Chances are pretty good, not perfect, but chances are better than average, that they will be told, look, Possecombatatus, Constitution, you cannot do this unless there is a clear and compelling reason, they ain't no clear and compelling reason.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Even if you have a great big hatred for inflatable frog costumes, I'm sorry that does not constitute a reason to send in the National Guard.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, and, I mean, if they were to send them in, these guardsmen and women would be like, really, I'm being taunted by unicorns and frogs and bubbles, I mean, why am I here?

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[SPEAKER_09]: And this is, and this is assuming those those guardsmen and women have actually passed the fitness test.

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[SPEAKER_13]: We get there's that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Sorry, Texas.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Sorry, Texas.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Sorry, Texas.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, well.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Texas we like some of the people from Texas there's a lot there's a lot of sorry folks down there too unfortunately we got more news on tap for you it is a Tuesday night here at the politics bar thank you by the way for everybody who does subscribe to the podcast and of course as we mentioned earlier you could always go check out all the new gear it is in the politics bar store at the politics bar dot com back with more news on tap with you and me and jodie hang on

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[SPEAKER_09]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.

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[SPEAKER_09]: By the way, we did have some messages as well.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You know our socials, you know where we're at.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We're on Threads, Instagram, Facebook, Loose Guy, Substack, Twitter.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We are there at the politics mark.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And we had, let me see here, Tim, be a Facebook, you know, Tim.

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[SPEAKER_09]: He likes to post, he likes to send us stuff.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Facebook this time, he said, he heard us talking about the American flag, how it belongs to every American.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And when we were talking about the, the No Kings rallies, which was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And he said, uh, he's glad that we agree that it, it belongs to everybody, even those people that we don't agree with.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_09]: As a retired disabled veteran in fought in three wars, he said, I do it again if I could.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But, uh, you know, he said it's important that people understand that about the flag.

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[SPEAKER_09]: That said, basically, he wanted to know when will people learn that in a nation of laws, policies that hurt one person in a group hurt everybody, and policies that benefit one person in a group of benefit everybody too.

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[SPEAKER_09]: More people should open their mind to change for the better amount of humanity not just themselves.

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[SPEAKER_13]: But there are some policies that benefit the wealthy and don't benefit the rest of us.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_09]: This is true, Joe, he is right.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But in general, I think what he's saying is that, you know, the law should apply to everybody.

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[SPEAKER_09]: And it should work.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It should.

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[SPEAKER_09]: It should be generally beneficial for most people.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We should try to do that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_13]: It should, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, it's unfortunate that a certain political party doesn't see it that way.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_09]: They are, oh my God, they're ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_09]: We've got more in the news on tap about that.

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[SPEAKER_09]: The absolutely corrupt Trump regime.

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[SPEAKER_09]: God, where do you want to go first?

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[SPEAKER_09]: They're them showing who they are or they the law fair because we've got examples from both of the news on tap today.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Let's go with the law fair.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So in the law fair section, James Comey is seeking to have the indictment by Lindsey Halligan tossed out arguing that the charges were driven by Trump's personal animus, which we know was a legal concept you cannot do.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But also he's trying to push it out because Lindsey Halligan, he said, was not appropriately appointed.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Basically, she didn't have the experience.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Jackson.

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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

01:00:27.152 --> 01:00:29.175
[SPEAKER_09]: She didn't know what the house he's doing.

01:00:29.476 --> 01:00:35.044
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, I warned the prosecutors trying to get Pat Fitzgerald kicked off of his

01:00:35.311 --> 01:00:39.657
[SPEAKER_13]: That's, too, which is just, there's no reason for whatever they're thinking.

01:00:40.077 --> 01:00:41.158
[SPEAKER_13]: I was reading through that going.

01:00:41.178 --> 01:00:42.100
[SPEAKER_13]: That makes no sense.

01:00:42.620 --> 01:00:43.201
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

01:00:43.221 --> 01:00:53.334
[SPEAKER_09]: Joyce, Joyce White advances a great piece from her sub-stack, talking about how, all about Komi's moves to dismiss, you can check the whole thing and it is definitely worth reading.

01:00:53.354 --> 01:00:53.915
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, it's Joyce.

01:00:54.556 --> 01:00:54.856
[SPEAKER_03]: That's great.

01:00:54.916 --> 01:01:02.806
[SPEAKER_09]: We can get her in the bar here, too, because we can never have too many awesome lawyers in the legal bar at the politics bar.

01:01:02.826 --> 01:01:03.207
[SPEAKER_12]: I agree.

01:01:03.267 --> 01:01:04.288
[SPEAKER_09]: That's, you know.

01:01:04.538 --> 01:01:08.705
[SPEAKER_09]: Speaking of a good lawyer, a good lawyer who is a turn journalist and a bower.

01:01:08.825 --> 01:01:16.557
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, we've had a number of links before to stuff that she's done over at lawfare.com.

01:01:16.657 --> 01:01:18.941
[SPEAKER_09]: You've worked in the journalism side.

01:01:19.021 --> 01:01:20.723
[SPEAKER_09]: You work with journalistic integrity.

01:01:20.783 --> 01:01:21.605
[SPEAKER_09]: You and I do, Jody.

01:01:23.508 --> 01:01:30.799
[SPEAKER_09]: You worked a lot of the media that's in the entertainment side though, so not necessarily on the journalistic side, but you also have done some stuff on the journalistic side.

01:01:31.825 --> 01:01:35.550
[SPEAKER_09]: You completely and absolutely understand the concept of off the record.

01:01:35.590 --> 01:01:37.292
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes, that's the first thing you say to somebody.

01:01:38.734 --> 01:01:39.235
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

01:01:39.355 --> 01:01:41.117
[SPEAKER_13]: What I'm about to tell you is off the record.

01:01:41.979 --> 01:01:43.841
[SPEAKER_13]: That's what you say exactly.

01:01:44.662 --> 01:01:49.909
[SPEAKER_09]: That's the first thing that you say is is, do I have a conversation off the record when I'm about to tell you is off the record?

01:01:49.989 --> 01:01:51.111
[SPEAKER_09]: Can this be off the record?

01:01:51.491 --> 01:01:55.096
[SPEAKER_09]: Anything involving those three words off the record?

01:01:55.116 --> 01:01:57.259
[SPEAKER_13]: And a journalist will honor that.

01:01:58.167 --> 01:02:23.517
[SPEAKER_09]: ethical ones will yes ethical ones will and so the story you can read the whole write up it is in the news on tap it's under that we label it and about Lindsey Halligan doesn't appear to know the rules regarding communications with journalists yet she's trying a case against Jim Colmy for that offense which is literally the case it is Lindsey Halligan the

01:02:24.458 --> 01:02:29.144
[SPEAKER_09]: Trump DOJ attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, which is where I'm sitting right now.

01:02:29.204 --> 01:02:39.196
[SPEAKER_09]: So I have to kind of watch myself a little bit said she was basically she reached out over signal, which is, again, what is going on?

01:02:40.397 --> 01:02:44.142
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, and also she, she sent it up for automatic eight-hour destruction.

01:02:44.442 --> 01:02:44.903
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, so bad.

01:02:44.923 --> 01:02:45.243
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, so bad.

01:02:45.303 --> 01:02:45.724
[SPEAKER_09]: Eight hours.

01:02:46.445 --> 01:02:48.567
[SPEAKER_09]: But, and a bower, very smart.

01:02:48.888 --> 01:02:52.592
[SPEAKER_09]: She just took

01:02:53.129 --> 01:02:54.412
[SPEAKER_09]: And you can read the whole thing.

01:02:54.452 --> 01:02:55.214
[SPEAKER_09]: But Anna wrote it up.

01:02:55.234 --> 01:02:57.179
[SPEAKER_09]: Basically, Lizzy howling and reached out to her.

01:02:57.199 --> 01:02:59.465
[SPEAKER_09]: And it was like, bitch, you posted wrong.

01:02:59.806 --> 01:03:03.375
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, she was posting other people's reporting.

01:03:03.710 --> 01:03:13.600
[SPEAKER_09]: Annabauer was doing some of what we do here at the Paul Tore, where one of the reasons we provide you guys the stuff over at the news on tab is that you can read up a little bit more.

01:03:13.740 --> 01:03:15.161
[SPEAKER_09]: We provide you a summary.

01:03:15.722 --> 01:03:22.428
[SPEAKER_09]: Those of you who are already informed like Tim Russ was earlier tonight, you could have a great discussion for those people who are like, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:03:22.448 --> 01:03:23.730
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not quite sure I understood that.

01:03:24.170 --> 01:03:30.156
[SPEAKER_09]: You can listen to the discussion, roll it back on the podcast if you want, and go deeper in the news on tab.

01:03:30.457 --> 01:03:33.181
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, it's a way to communicate with people in a deeper way.

01:03:33.361 --> 01:03:42.876
[SPEAKER_09]: It's the kind of thing you do at any bar, where maybe there's a group of, you know, five or six of you and somebody is talking and they're talking in a way you're going, ooh, that's some interesting stuff about that particular subject.

01:03:43.357 --> 01:03:46.542
[SPEAKER_09]: And then you're not quite sure, so you turn to your friend and you say, okay, here's the deal.

01:03:46.562 --> 01:03:49.526
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not quite sure about this and they say, okay, here's the thing that's going on.

01:03:49.566 --> 01:03:51.930
[SPEAKER_09]: You're like, okay, and then you get back into the conversation.

01:03:52.170 --> 01:03:52.731
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

01:03:52.751 --> 01:03:53.973
[SPEAKER_09]: This is just a different version of that.

01:03:54.414 --> 01:03:55.215
[SPEAKER_09]: This is the same thing.

01:03:56.360 --> 01:04:03.149
[SPEAKER_09]: Along short, Lindsey Halligan reached out to Annabauer, one supposed to over a text-based medication, start a blasting Annabauer.

01:04:03.589 --> 01:04:10.538
[SPEAKER_09]: Annabauer had just posted and said, here's what the New York Times says, here's what this is, and here's my experience, and this is why I think this is kind of BS.

01:04:12.281 --> 01:04:16.807
[SPEAKER_09]: And Lindsey Halligan was like, bitch, you don't understand, that's not how it is, and you're not supposed to do it this way.

01:04:17.908 --> 01:04:20.171
[SPEAKER_09]: So Annabauer goes, okay, what did I get wrong?

01:04:20.832 --> 01:04:24.156
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, first Annabauer wasn't sure that it was actually Lindsey Halligan.

01:04:24.254 --> 01:04:26.177
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, there's that whole part of it too.

01:04:26.277 --> 01:04:31.846
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, because she thought she might have been getting fished or she might have been getting some of the other somebody, you know, pretending to be.

01:04:32.046 --> 01:04:32.346
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

01:04:32.366 --> 01:04:41.741
[SPEAKER_09]: And so she asked, nobody that high up in the D usually, especially if you're that, if you're like the head of a, uh, in the D. Especially that case on top of it all.

01:04:41.761 --> 01:04:45.647
[SPEAKER_09]: And you don't talk about certain parts of the case, which she was talking about with Annabauer.

01:04:46.148 --> 01:04:51.055
[SPEAKER_13]: And, and so Annabauer literally asked her in a text, where did we meet?

01:04:52.317 --> 01:04:57.625
[SPEAKER_09]: And she was able to answer correctly, which, you know, that's a good way of double-checking with something.

01:04:57.965 --> 01:04:58.126
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

01:04:58.446 --> 01:04:59.888
[SPEAKER_09]: But then they were talking all about the case.

01:05:00.729 --> 01:05:04.174
[SPEAKER_09]: And long short, Annabauer was basically saying, what did I get wrong?

01:05:04.295 --> 01:05:05.176
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

01:05:05.196 --> 01:05:07.239
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm trying to help, you're trying to help me.

01:05:07.259 --> 01:05:08.901
[SPEAKER_09]: Let me help you.

01:05:09.362 --> 01:05:13.468
[SPEAKER_09]: Even though we don't always agree, I just, you know, okay, you're saying I get something wrong.

01:05:13.709 --> 01:05:14.990
[SPEAKER_09]: I'd love to see if I can correct it.

01:05:15.351 --> 01:05:16.453
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

01:05:16.473 --> 01:05:21.480
[SPEAKER_09]: Lindsey Halligan was just basically mad that Annabauer was tweeting about it.

01:05:23.097 --> 01:05:25.462
[SPEAKER_13]: as if she was the only reporter tweeting about it.

01:05:26.124 --> 01:05:26.304
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

01:05:26.885 --> 01:05:35.925
[SPEAKER_09]: Even though the freaking New York Times had put out an article and posted multiple times on multiple social platforms about that story.

01:05:36.040 --> 01:05:44.137
[SPEAKER_13]: She was, Haligan was trying to nail in about, which is just, I have a feeling somebody told her that law fair is law fair.

01:05:44.959 --> 01:05:56.243
[SPEAKER_09]: And so, when I, when I saw Anna post that, I responded immediately, knowing, knowing instantly where this came from, because of the fact that,

01:05:57.421 --> 01:06:05.815
[SPEAKER_09]: What a lot of people don't realize is that if you follow the right people or you respond to the right people, there are other people watching you on social media.

01:06:06.717 --> 01:06:13.168
[SPEAKER_09]: There are a number of people for years that I worked in Randy show when I worked for staff when I worked for Bill Press.

01:06:13.739 --> 01:06:18.609
[SPEAKER_09]: There are people who follow me on different social media platforms, and never interact with me, but I know that they follow me.

01:06:18.649 --> 01:06:27.968
[SPEAKER_09]: I can find them on the thing, or like back in the day when I was Randy show, I had all kinds of emails of different people that maybe I shouldn't have had, but that they followed us.

01:06:28.083 --> 01:06:36.281
[SPEAKER_09]: They followed us because they knew that we would talk about some of the stuff that some of the mainstream media should be talking about and didn't and they follow us now.

01:06:36.421 --> 01:06:37.042
[SPEAKER_09]: They follow you.

01:06:37.082 --> 01:06:37.684
[SPEAKER_09]: They follow me.

01:06:37.744 --> 01:06:38.546
[SPEAKER_09]: They follow the show.

01:06:38.906 --> 01:06:39.528
[SPEAKER_09]: Which is fine.

01:06:39.548 --> 01:06:40.710
[SPEAKER_09]: They're they're hearing the bar.

01:06:40.750 --> 01:06:42.234
[SPEAKER_09]: They're in the quiet corners of the bar.

01:06:42.815 --> 01:06:43.496
[SPEAKER_09]: Whatever y'all.

01:06:43.516 --> 01:06:44.018
[SPEAKER_03]: Bye y'all.

01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:45.180
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey there.

01:06:46.156 --> 01:06:54.467
[SPEAKER_09]: So anyways, when Annabelle repost that I immediately posted basically response to her, and I said, look, there are a couple different kinds of journalists.

01:06:54.487 --> 01:06:57.391
[SPEAKER_09]: I've been a degree journalist for 25 years.

01:06:57.992 --> 01:06:59.234
[SPEAKER_09]: I've been a credentialed journalist.

01:06:59.254 --> 01:07:04.401
[SPEAKER_09]: That's where your credentials from some organization or something to do something on and off for 30 plus years.

01:07:06.035 --> 01:07:12.463
[SPEAKER_09]: then you could be like David K. Johnston who's a fantastic journalist who has never gotten a degree in journalism.

01:07:12.523 --> 01:07:18.650
[SPEAKER_09]: He's taught classes at college, but he's never gotten a degree in journalism, but he did win three Pulitzer prizes.

01:07:19.691 --> 01:07:21.013
[SPEAKER_09]: So he knows what he's doing.

01:07:21.673 --> 01:07:23.015
[SPEAKER_09]: Those are the ways you can be a journalist.

01:07:23.455 --> 01:07:24.937
[SPEAKER_09]: And I said to her, I said, you used to be a lawyer.

01:07:25.117 --> 01:07:25.898
[SPEAKER_09]: Now you're a journalist.

01:07:26.059 --> 01:07:27.300
[SPEAKER_09]: You're a good journalist.

01:07:27.955 --> 01:07:28.956
[SPEAKER_09]: keep doing what you're doing.

01:07:29.076 --> 01:07:32.701
[SPEAKER_13]: It was like Kimberly, I can store on hashtag sister in law.

01:07:32.861 --> 01:07:34.183
[SPEAKER_09]: I can speak sister in law.

01:07:34.203 --> 01:07:35.164
[SPEAKER_09]: Sister in law podcast.

01:07:35.305 --> 01:07:35.625
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.

01:07:35.805 --> 01:07:39.110
[SPEAKER_13]: And she is a lawyer, but she's mainly a journalist now.

01:07:39.810 --> 01:07:40.752
[SPEAKER_09]: Right, but she used to be a lawyer.

01:07:41.833 --> 01:07:43.615
[SPEAKER_09]: There are plenty of ways to go about it.

01:07:43.956 --> 01:07:50.765
[SPEAKER_09]: But the reason I had somebody kind of ping me after that was like, no, you oversimplified in your response to her.

01:07:50.805 --> 01:07:52.207
[SPEAKER_09]: They were critiquing my response.

01:07:52.227 --> 01:07:53.288
[SPEAKER_09]: And I said, what?

01:07:53.403 --> 01:07:55.746
[SPEAKER_09]: I said, I did that on purpose.

01:07:55.766 --> 01:07:56.407
[SPEAKER_09]: They're like, why?

01:07:56.427 --> 01:08:02.834
[SPEAKER_09]: And I said, because you have to know that the Eastern District of Virginia is watching in a bower's social media.

01:08:03.075 --> 01:08:03.796
[SPEAKER_13]: Absolutely there.

01:08:03.816 --> 01:08:07.480
[SPEAKER_09]: And so somebody who is watching that will see this.

01:08:08.842 --> 01:08:19.174
[SPEAKER_09]: And if they think they can go, well, you're not a journalist, which is what Halligan was saying to bower, you can go, have you ever met David K. Jones, can you idiot?

01:08:21.027 --> 01:08:24.371
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, three pilates are doesn't have a quote unquote journalism degree.

01:08:24.531 --> 01:08:25.952
[SPEAKER_09]: Get obviously a journalist.

01:08:25.972 --> 01:08:30.798
[SPEAKER_09]: So kind of a nice little, you know, here's the facts.

01:08:32.179 --> 01:08:34.081
[SPEAKER_09]: Shove it down your throat and choke on it, you jerk.

01:08:35.723 --> 01:08:38.827
[SPEAKER_09]: But it's done in such a very, and a lot of people will wait.

01:08:38.847 --> 01:08:44.513
[SPEAKER_09]: When you explain this to people who haven't quite seen the world from that perspective, they're like, oh, wow.

01:08:45.074 --> 01:08:48.958
[SPEAKER_09]: I go, I don't mind doing things out in the open that way.

01:08:49.411 --> 01:08:57.042
[SPEAKER_09]: My mom always told me, you know, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you operate off of the truth, you don't have to worry about it.

01:08:57.062 --> 01:08:57.323
[SPEAKER_09]: Very true.

01:08:57.925 --> 01:08:58.628
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

01:08:58.844 --> 01:08:59.906
[SPEAKER_09]: So be open about it.

01:09:00.286 --> 01:09:02.489
[SPEAKER_09]: I will be open about stuff all the time.

01:09:02.509 --> 01:09:04.512
[SPEAKER_09]: And I am open about stuff like that in social media.

01:09:04.953 --> 01:09:12.925
[SPEAKER_09]: And so yes, if I know that somebody like Haligan and her people over Trump's D.O.J., which has nothing to do with justice.

01:09:13.706 --> 01:09:20.937
[SPEAKER_09]: But if they're watching somebody like Anna Bower, then I know when I respond to Anna Bower, that anything I respond to her on that,

01:09:20.917 --> 01:09:21.858
[SPEAKER_09]: that they might see.

01:09:22.318 --> 01:09:22.859
[SPEAKER_09]: There go.

01:09:22.979 --> 01:09:27.684
[SPEAKER_09]: You write in a specific way to say, hey, dumbass, this is what a journalist actually is.

01:09:28.024 --> 01:09:28.865
[SPEAKER_09]: And there you go.

01:09:28.965 --> 01:09:29.706
[SPEAKER_09]: And she's a good one.

01:09:30.046 --> 01:09:30.927
[SPEAKER_09]: Keep doing what you're doing.

01:09:31.668 --> 01:09:33.110
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, and I had no problem with it clearly.

01:09:33.230 --> 01:09:39.176
[SPEAKER_13]: So what was funny about the whole exchange was finally when Lindsay realized she was on the record.

01:09:39.196 --> 01:09:39.756
[SPEAKER_13]: Don't know.

01:09:39.777 --> 01:09:40.958
[SPEAKER_13]: It's always off the record.

01:09:41.859 --> 01:09:42.099
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

01:09:42.539 --> 01:09:48.365
[SPEAKER_09]: Which you cannot say off the record after the bid after all of those text messages.

01:09:48.586 --> 01:09:48.966
[SPEAKER_13]: No.

01:09:49.165 --> 01:09:55.858
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you can't you can't say well, I meant to say was maybe that's why she was in runner up in that beauty page and she just didn't know.

01:09:55.878 --> 01:10:08.001
[SPEAKER_09]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

01:10:08.842 --> 01:10:09.983
[SPEAKER_09]: You're not wrong on that one.

01:10:10.844 --> 01:10:15.928
[SPEAKER_09]: There is some good news, and well, there's some mixed news in the election land segment today.

01:10:16.088 --> 01:10:27.638
[SPEAKER_09]: In North Carolina, the Republicans have advanced in other chance to steal another seat, which, as we've talked about a little bit with Tim Russ, that the Supreme Court is messing with that, it's a story worth reading.

01:10:29.060 --> 01:10:32.102
[SPEAKER_09]: There is something else that is worth hearing, though, to be honest.

01:10:33.664 --> 01:10:38.848
[SPEAKER_09]: There's a clip from Harriet, no, we should wait to play until we get back.

01:10:38.828 --> 01:10:47.879
[SPEAKER_09]: Harry's talking about how, when we talked with Tim Russ about it a little bit in the first hour, about how things are looking actually pretty good for Democrats.

01:10:49.000 --> 01:11:06.321
[SPEAKER_09]: And part of the reason I think the piece that we also mentioned first hour, Alex Shepherd, over at the New Republic, wrote this piece that talks about how everybody from Zormand Dang to Marjor Taylor Green get it, and that Trump and Shimmer do not, and that it is about affordability.

01:11:07.887 --> 01:11:09.609
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, this is what Americans care about right now.

01:11:10.370 --> 01:11:13.474
[SPEAKER_09]: America is care about affordability and a lot of us, the good folks.

01:11:13.695 --> 01:11:17.540
[SPEAKER_09]: The folks that you were were out in the streets this last weekend.

01:11:18.201 --> 01:11:23.608
[SPEAKER_09]: And those of you who were at home and still supporting them by reposting videos and that kind of thing.

01:11:24.469 --> 01:11:27.132
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, we also want accountability.

01:11:28.254 --> 01:11:32.560
[SPEAKER_09]: Because the rule a lot doesn't matter if there's no punishment for the folks who are doing things wrong.

01:11:33.060 --> 01:11:33.982
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

01:11:34.002 --> 01:11:34.222
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

01:11:34.242 --> 01:11:35.263
[SPEAKER_09]: So we want accountability.

01:11:35.283 --> 01:11:36.645
[SPEAKER_09]: We want affordability.

01:11:37.182 --> 01:11:58.521
[SPEAKER_09]: Honestly, these two things should not be all that difficult to understand and yet people who happen to be cohorts of Donald Trump and cohorts of Chuck Schumer, folks who may have a few more years in them, but they could be younger too, but maybe their their mentalities is just a little bit older.

01:11:58.581 --> 01:12:00.304
[SPEAKER_09]: There, you know, that

01:12:00.841 --> 01:12:03.466
[SPEAKER_09]: fact of the matter is it's a whole new world out there.

01:12:04.388 --> 01:12:10.519
[SPEAKER_09]: The piece that we have I think Chris Hayes yesterday talks about that you have to, if you're getting candidates out there you have to be able to grab the attention.

01:12:11.040 --> 01:12:15.048
[SPEAKER_09]: But you also have to understand what the voters actually really want.

01:12:15.088 --> 01:12:19.356
[SPEAKER_09]: And right now those are the two key words, affordability and accountability.

01:12:19.910 --> 01:12:25.089
[SPEAKER_09]: I've mentioned this by the way, uh, here in Virginia, um, Spanberger, she's doing a bus tour now.

01:12:25.330 --> 01:12:27.779
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, no, I don't know, but she gets it.

01:12:27.859 --> 01:12:28.622
[SPEAKER_09]: Her ads out there.

01:12:28.682 --> 01:12:29.485
[SPEAKER_09]: She really gets it.

01:12:29.525 --> 01:12:31.894
[SPEAKER_09]: That it's about affordability and it's about accountability.

01:12:34.085 --> 01:12:37.068
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, I'm like, she's, she's going to be a good governor here in Virginia.

01:12:37.208 --> 01:12:38.610
[SPEAKER_09]: I think she's up to you.

01:12:38.630 --> 01:12:41.153
[SPEAKER_09]: I think Mikey Cheryl's going to be good in New Jersey.

01:12:41.753 --> 01:12:42.934
[SPEAKER_09]: And I think Zornman, Danny.

01:12:43.095 --> 01:12:46.618
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, oh, I saw a new pull by the way for David Jolly, down in Florida.

01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:48.661
[SPEAKER_09]: He's within the margin of error.

01:12:49.381 --> 01:12:50.543
[SPEAKER_09]: Three points away, margin of error.

01:12:50.563 --> 01:12:51.463
[SPEAKER_09]: I think was five points.

01:12:52.044 --> 01:12:52.845
[SPEAKER_09]: So he's doing good.

01:12:53.726 --> 01:12:56.829
[SPEAKER_09]: Cat Abigail Zayla last time I checked is doing pretty good in the ninth.

01:12:57.410 --> 01:12:58.051
[SPEAKER_09]: You don't want to wait.

01:12:58.271 --> 01:13:00.413
[SPEAKER_13]: And Prop 50 is going to win.

01:13:00.933 --> 01:13:06.517
[SPEAKER_09]: Prop 50 is kick in the ass of the anti-fogs, which you're all, I'm thrilled about that.

01:13:06.537 --> 01:13:07.521
[SPEAKER_13]: Can we get to phone it?

01:13:07.581 --> 01:13:10.453
[SPEAKER_13]: I think that's why people are like, no, it's my choice.

01:13:10.737 --> 01:13:11.177
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, yeah.

01:13:11.478 --> 01:13:14.321
[SPEAKER_09]: And the fact that Barack Obama has come out in favor of Prop 50.

01:13:14.401 --> 01:13:14.701
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah.

01:13:14.721 --> 01:13:17.184
[SPEAKER_09]: And it's a little bit of Cheryl and in favor of Spanberger.

01:13:17.565 --> 01:13:19.286
[SPEAKER_09]: It's to want him to come out in favor of Mimdani.

01:13:19.306 --> 01:13:24.612
[SPEAKER_09]: But you know, you know, it's good to see some of our folks getting off the mat and taking some swings.

01:13:25.133 --> 01:13:26.414
[SPEAKER_13]: So absolutely.

01:13:26.434 --> 01:13:26.695
[SPEAKER_09]: All right.

01:13:26.935 --> 01:13:28.837
[SPEAKER_09]: We've got last call coming up.

01:13:28.877 --> 01:13:38.027
[SPEAKER_09]: We will get to that little bit with Harry Ante and coming up and more of your news on tap, including a little bit of entertainment news, fresh in your drink and come on back here at the PalmTex part.

01:13:51.355 --> 01:14:07.609
[SPEAKER_09]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.

01:14:08.703 --> 01:14:09.484
[SPEAKER_09]: don't give me that look.

01:14:10.485 --> 01:14:12.607
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, you make up the joke.

01:14:12.628 --> 01:14:14.530
[SPEAKER_09]: So, okay, you can send them to us by the way.

01:14:14.570 --> 01:14:24.341
[SPEAKER_09]: You can do that anytime, any way you want at any of our social media, what you're going on threads or Instagram, Facebook, Substack, Blue Sky, or Twitter, you know where we're at.

01:14:24.381 --> 01:14:25.863
[SPEAKER_09]: We're at the politics mark.

01:14:26.303 --> 01:14:27.625
[SPEAKER_09]: All right, Tuesday night, Jody.

01:14:28.326 --> 01:14:33.492
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, I was really geeked up last night because, well, I mean, you know, there's more baseball going on.

01:14:33.532 --> 01:14:38.237
[SPEAKER_09]: And I have to say we got to hand it to the Toronto Blue

01:14:40.327 --> 01:14:44.512
[SPEAKER_09]: They have advanced to the world series of the first time in 32 years.

01:14:45.193 --> 01:14:47.796
[SPEAKER_09]: They will face and get beaten by the loss.

01:14:47.836 --> 01:14:48.838
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I'm sorry.

01:14:49.899 --> 01:14:50.159
[SPEAKER_13]: Probably.

01:14:52.302 --> 01:14:54.004
[SPEAKER_09]: Probably get beaten by the Dodgers.

01:14:54.104 --> 01:14:57.549
[SPEAKER_09]: But you know, look, at least from my friends who were Blue Chase fans, they were excited.

01:14:57.589 --> 01:14:58.870
[SPEAKER_09]: They were happy and that's a good thing.

01:14:58.890 --> 01:15:02.495
[SPEAKER_13]: And it starts here and then goes to Toronto and then back if need be.

01:15:02.515 --> 01:15:02.775
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.

01:15:02.795 --> 01:15:02.975
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

01:15:03.056 --> 01:15:03.676
[SPEAKER_13]: That's what I thought.

01:15:03.696 --> 01:15:06.159
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, look, if you told me, okay, here's the deal.

01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:09.844
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to pay for you to do something, but you have to do it.

01:15:10.583 --> 01:15:16.222
[SPEAKER_09]: The first, you have to go to a Dodgers game against the BlueJace in LA in October.

01:15:16.784 --> 01:15:23.125
[SPEAKER_09]: And then you have to go to a BlueJace game against the Dodgers in Toronto.

01:15:24.809 --> 01:15:38.185
[SPEAKER_13]: Would you complain if somebody said that to you if it there's like here's your travel schedule here's your tickets Are you kidding me now first off I live in Los Angeles so be easy that part, but I love Toronto I love that city.

01:15:38.265 --> 01:15:40.567
[SPEAKER_13]: It's just it's I love that town.

01:15:40.808 --> 01:15:41.588
[SPEAKER_13]: It's a great great.

01:15:41.608 --> 01:15:46.674
[SPEAKER_09]: It would be it would be it would be fantastic So for those people who are going all those games y'all enjoy to hell out of that.

01:15:46.734 --> 01:15:49.838
[SPEAKER_13]: That's Everything is blue

01:15:50.813 --> 01:15:51.757
[SPEAKER_09]: That's the other thing.

01:15:51.777 --> 01:15:53.644
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, everything is blue.

01:15:53.664 --> 01:15:54.668
[SPEAKER_09]: So, you know what that means?

01:15:54.989 --> 01:15:56.636
[SPEAKER_12]: Magnum I had pissed on.

01:15:56.656 --> 01:15:57.318
[SPEAKER_12]: Magnum I had.

01:15:58.443 --> 01:16:01.093
[SPEAKER_09]: Plus, if the blue jays win the world series.

01:16:03.149 --> 01:16:07.176
[SPEAKER_09]: Not that I, you know, I know your Dodgers fan, but that would be fun.

01:16:07.196 --> 01:16:12.985
[SPEAKER_09]: This is this, you'll win either way that way, Jody, because as a Dodgers fan, if the Dodgers win, you'll be happy.

01:16:13.806 --> 01:16:17.993
[SPEAKER_09]: And if the Toronto Blue Jays win, Maga will be absolutely in sense.

01:16:18.033 --> 01:16:19.035
[SPEAKER_13]: They'll be apoplectic.

01:16:19.516 --> 01:16:20.177
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.

01:16:20.197 --> 01:16:22.561
[SPEAKER_09]: And you will be able to laugh at them hilariously.

01:16:22.921 --> 01:16:28.330
[SPEAKER_09]: So basically, the person winning the world series this year is Jody Hamilton.

01:16:30.318 --> 01:16:31.620
[SPEAKER_13]: That's one way to put it.

01:16:32.942 --> 01:16:35.125
[SPEAKER_09]: Jody Hamilton wins the world series this year.

01:16:35.506 --> 01:16:35.946
[SPEAKER_09]: There you go.

01:16:36.767 --> 01:16:38.911
[SPEAKER_13]: Jody Hamilton gets her permanent crown tomorrow.

01:16:39.712 --> 01:16:40.273
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, okay.

01:16:40.293 --> 01:16:41.675
[SPEAKER_09]: He got to go to the dentist tomorrow.

01:16:42.456 --> 01:16:42.916
[SPEAKER_09]: All right.

01:16:42.936 --> 01:16:46.121
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, you can find out what your dentist's favorite baseball team is.

01:16:47.303 --> 01:16:49.326
[SPEAKER_13]: Hey, he went to my university, so.

01:16:50.347 --> 01:16:59.160
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm just saying, you know, that's if somebody was sitting in my chair, and they were about to pay me several thousand dollars for something, I would be like whatever your favorite team is.

01:17:02.363 --> 01:17:06.827
[SPEAKER_09]: Elsewhere in the media and entertainment world, we knew this was coming.

01:17:06.848 --> 01:17:12.013
[SPEAKER_09]: And one of the brothers discovery is now openly exploring the sale of their media assets.

01:17:12.894 --> 01:17:14.075
[SPEAKER_09]: Whatever.

01:17:14.675 --> 01:17:16.377
[SPEAKER_13]: Wait, wait, Kate.

01:17:16.417 --> 01:17:19.180
[SPEAKER_13]: There's media assets like televisions because CW.

01:17:19.660 --> 01:17:22.403
[SPEAKER_09]: So one of the brothers in discovery are planning to separate.

01:17:23.024 --> 01:17:23.244
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.

01:17:23.905 --> 01:17:25.326
[SPEAKER_09]: Because they were two different companies.

01:17:25.346 --> 01:17:26.207
[SPEAKER_09]: Then they came together.

01:17:26.247 --> 01:17:27.528
[SPEAKER_09]: Then they were like, oh, crap.

01:17:27.548 --> 01:17:31.172
[SPEAKER_09]: This didn't work out the way that we thought it would, you know, work thinking of separating.

01:17:32.097 --> 01:17:49.729
[SPEAKER_09]: So they have opened it up and basically said somebody can come in and buy the whole thing or somebody can come in and buy certain pieces of water and certain pieces of discovery or all the discovery stuff or all the water stuff or some combination there were over just bits and pieces but they really want to sell their film division though.

01:17:50.911 --> 01:17:51.773
[SPEAKER_09]: I have no idea.

01:17:52.454 --> 01:17:55.860
[SPEAKER_09]: I have no idea and I also know that.

01:17:55.958 --> 01:18:07.470
[SPEAKER_09]: In a normal sane world, and even potentially in this one, they are not going to want CBS, which is now CBS quote unquote news, and CNN under the same roof.

01:18:08.331 --> 01:18:09.412
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

01:18:09.432 --> 01:18:12.896
[SPEAKER_09]: If for no other reason, then they don't want to wash out the brands.

01:18:14.097 --> 01:18:19.603
[SPEAKER_09]: Kind of like you wouldn't want Ford and Chevy to be owned by the same company.

01:18:19.718 --> 01:18:20.740
[SPEAKER_13]: No, those.

01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:23.063
[SPEAKER_09]: That would be stupid.

01:18:23.083 --> 01:18:24.766
[SPEAKER_09]: So I'm saying, Coke.

01:18:24.786 --> 01:18:25.247
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

01:18:25.687 --> 01:18:26.128
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

01:18:26.308 --> 01:18:28.111
[SPEAKER_09]: So anyway, that story is there.

01:18:28.211 --> 01:18:31.036
[SPEAKER_09]: Also, if you are an HBO Max subscriber, congratulations.

01:18:31.056 --> 01:18:32.758
[SPEAKER_09]: The price is going up effective now.

01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:35.603
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, not the good time to do that.

01:18:36.404 --> 01:18:36.605
[SPEAKER_13]: HBO.

01:18:37.025 --> 01:18:38.808
[SPEAKER_13]: They're getting rid of their CNN streaming.

01:18:38.828 --> 01:18:40.731
[SPEAKER_13]: So, and then it costs more money.

01:18:41.251 --> 01:18:45.964
[SPEAKER_09]: Right, which is just, it's just stupid, but that's any of you.

01:18:46.526 --> 01:18:54.749
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, some news to keep an eye on Broadway musicians, Union, is saying they will strike immediately if a deal is not reached to buy this time tomorrow night.

01:18:55.030 --> 01:18:55.591
[SPEAKER_13]: You know what?

01:18:55.671 --> 01:18:56.273
[SPEAKER_13]: Good for them.

01:18:56.590 --> 01:18:57.331
[SPEAKER_09]: Yep.

01:18:57.351 --> 01:18:57.551
[SPEAKER_09]: Amen.

01:18:58.032 --> 01:18:58.312
[SPEAKER_09]: You know?

01:18:58.652 --> 01:19:00.054
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, that's what unions are for.

01:19:01.455 --> 01:19:08.743
[SPEAKER_09]: We've said this before, if corporations would treat people fairly, if rich people would treat people fairly, there would be no need for unions.

01:19:08.963 --> 01:19:13.268
[SPEAKER_09]: So for those people, you might know, who might say, well, we don't like unions.

01:19:14.589 --> 01:19:16.932
[SPEAKER_09]: Unions only exist because you people are adults.

01:19:17.112 --> 01:19:19.915
[SPEAKER_09]: If you weren't adults, then there would be no need for unions.

01:19:19.945 --> 01:19:22.368
[SPEAKER_13]: and unions got us the 40 hour work week.

01:19:22.608 --> 01:19:23.770
[SPEAKER_13]: Unions got us weekends.

01:19:24.271 --> 01:19:26.494
[SPEAKER_13]: Unions helped get children out of this.

01:19:27.855 --> 01:19:30.979
[SPEAKER_13]: It's just like unions are good for even if you're not in a union.

01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:33.783
[SPEAKER_09]: Right, unions are good for all kinds of great stuff.

01:19:34.164 --> 01:19:41.493
[SPEAKER_09]: Unions are a great thing, but if employers actually did the things that they were supposed to you, no, we wouldn't need unions.

01:19:42.274 --> 01:19:45.278
[SPEAKER_09]: So anybody you know who's like, well, I don't see a reason for

01:19:45.747 --> 01:19:49.235
[SPEAKER_09]: All you have to say is, well, if you'd stop being an A whole, there wouldn't need to be one.

01:19:49.956 --> 01:19:55.508
[SPEAKER_09]: But clearly, there are unions, so I guess you're deciding to be an A whole, which, okay, that's one you.

01:19:57.032 --> 01:20:03.185
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, I'm technically, I'm in the producer's guild, which technically is not a union because producers are management.

01:20:03.747 --> 01:20:04.448
[SPEAKER_09]: It's a guild.

01:20:04.546 --> 01:20:05.147
[SPEAKER_13]: It's a guild.

01:20:05.167 --> 01:20:07.850
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, the director's guild is a union, but it's a guild.

01:20:09.531 --> 01:20:10.973
[SPEAKER_13]: They have collective bargaining power.

01:20:11.333 --> 01:20:16.219
[SPEAKER_13]: The producer's guild doesn't have that, but I think that they should because they won't legally allow it.

01:20:16.999 --> 01:20:17.120
[SPEAKER_13]: Right.

01:20:17.140 --> 01:20:25.268
[SPEAKER_13]: Because producers are, quote, management because we hire people, but not everybody that works in production, hires people.

01:20:26.830 --> 01:20:29.052
[SPEAKER_09]: And so we're of the different definitions that way.

01:20:29.413 --> 01:20:32.376
[SPEAKER_13]: And so I'm like, is there any way to, like,

01:20:33.115 --> 01:20:46.606
[SPEAKER_09]: then would be they could they could do the same kind of thing that a lot of political organizations do with where you have a 501c3 and a 501c4 c4 is the dark money c3 is the open money that there are ways to do it.

01:20:47.067 --> 01:20:51.491
[SPEAKER_09]: It's just a question of whether they want to or not and so far I don't think the producer's guilty.

01:20:51.511 --> 01:21:02.700
[SPEAKER_13]: The producer's guilty does help with people's health care as much as they can.

01:21:02.748 --> 01:21:28.840
[SPEAKER_09]: although that is especially for movies and TV that that tends to be here radio not so much but it's also a credit issue in film and television major credit and it's not television has yet to adopt it properly but movies have and so we can we talk about that all that that takes more time ending that we got tonight at some point at some point the movie crash is a perfect example of that there you go

01:21:29.444 --> 01:21:37.533
[SPEAKER_09]: By the way, other sports that's going on in WSL, National Women's Soccer League, playoff races, heating up two weeks left.

01:21:37.553 --> 01:21:42.679
[SPEAKER_09]: I believe Kansas City and Washington have punched their tickets, trying to remember who else did.

01:21:42.699 --> 01:21:44.341
[SPEAKER_09]: I think Gotham FC did.

01:21:45.322 --> 01:21:46.483
[SPEAKER_09]: Sure, that you can even look at that.

01:21:46.503 --> 01:21:49.827
[SPEAKER_09]: That's in the media entertainment and a more section in the news on tap.

01:21:50.108 --> 01:21:52.811
[SPEAKER_09]: Also NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, I still don't get this.

01:21:53.031 --> 01:21:56.014
[SPEAKER_09]: So the NBA is still technically over the WNBA.

01:21:56.795 --> 01:21:58.337
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

01:21:59.026 --> 01:21:59.848
[SPEAKER_09]: I get it.

01:21:59.888 --> 01:22:01.332
[SPEAKER_09]: It's a money thing partially.

01:22:01.693 --> 01:22:12.664
[SPEAKER_09]: Anyway, but Adam Silver is saying that he expects big raises for WMBA players in their new collective bargaining agreement and that the women players deserve it, which they do

01:22:14.011 --> 01:22:19.416
[SPEAKER_09]: About damn time to hear your man and power say that about women who deserve their due.

01:22:19.436 --> 01:22:20.417
[SPEAKER_13]: So they do.

01:22:20.918 --> 01:22:21.318
[SPEAKER_09]: Nice to hear.

01:22:21.338 --> 01:22:23.300
[SPEAKER_13]: They're starting to bring in advertising money.

01:22:23.320 --> 01:22:29.346
[SPEAKER_13]: They're starting to bring in television money, add money, money on the courts.

01:22:29.587 --> 01:22:41.959
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, it's just, they're finding the thing that I said years ago when I worked at, you know, everybody here knows I used to work in sports media that I did, you know, that ran that that was responsible for the hospital sports radio network.

01:22:42.867 --> 01:23:00.497
[SPEAKER_09]: And I always said, if you treat the female athletes, if you treat the quarter-quote minor sports and you treat them like their major sports, everything that the major sports get, a lot of what they get is because of the way that they're treated.

01:23:00.938 --> 01:23:04.183
[SPEAKER_09]: If we treated football, the way that we treat trap shooting,

01:23:05.075 --> 01:23:09.221
[SPEAKER_09]: it would not be the multi-billion dollar industry that it is correct.

01:23:09.602 --> 01:23:21.740
[SPEAKER_09]: If you treated trap shooting or gymnastics or a lot of the Olympic sports, the way that you treat football and baseball and basketball, those sports would get bigger audiences and they would make more money.

01:23:22.742 --> 01:23:30.373
[SPEAKER_09]: And I use this example not just because I'm in Nebraska fan, but because 92,000 and three people,

01:23:30.860 --> 01:23:49.881
[SPEAKER_09]: watch Nebraska, the University of Nebraska, a college volleyball team play volleyball in a football stadium, when you talk about volleyball, especially in college, when you say volleyball, like a lot of sports, if you would say football, it's automatically men.

01:23:50.468 --> 01:23:54.032
[SPEAKER_09]: With college volleyball, when you say volleyball, it's automatically women.

01:23:54.052 --> 01:23:56.575
[SPEAKER_09]: If you want to say men's volleyball, you have to state men's first.

01:23:56.856 --> 01:23:58.938
[SPEAKER_09]: So women are dominance in volleyball.

01:23:59.899 --> 01:24:01.021
[SPEAKER_09]: Nebraska had what was it?

01:24:01.041 --> 01:24:07.188
[SPEAKER_09]: Was it Rutgers, I think, or one of the other teams that they were playing here last couple of weeks.

01:24:07.649 --> 01:24:10.232
[SPEAKER_09]: For the first time they played in a great, one of the great big arenas.

01:24:11.774 --> 01:24:14.377
[SPEAKER_09]: And they got like 17,000 people, filled the damn thing up.

01:24:14.417 --> 01:24:16.740
[SPEAKER_09]: And they were like, holy crap.

01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:17.961
[SPEAKER_09]: If you treat,

01:24:19.223 --> 01:24:34.820
[SPEAKER_09]: If you treat people with respect, if you treat events with respect, if you treat them the way that you treat the big events already, they will bring in the money, they will bring in the attention, it's not rocket science.

01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:37.123
[SPEAKER_13]: It's very field of dreams, if you build it, they will come.

01:24:37.723 --> 01:24:38.284
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

01:24:39.685 --> 01:24:40.086
[SPEAKER_13]: And it works.

01:24:41.067 --> 01:24:41.628
[SPEAKER_09]: Proven.

01:24:41.648 --> 01:24:43.329
[SPEAKER_09]: Ninety-two thousand and three, just saying.

01:24:43.530 --> 01:24:43.830
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:24:45.717 --> 01:24:50.362
[SPEAKER_09]: which of course brings us back to treating things with respect or lack thereof.

01:24:50.782 --> 01:24:59.852
[SPEAKER_09]: I am still it still pisses me off so much that people are just letting Trump wreck the White House.

01:25:00.213 --> 01:25:02.896
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I just literally bulldoze it.

01:25:03.957 --> 01:25:05.198
[SPEAKER_09]: Part of the East Wing, right?

01:25:05.879 --> 01:25:08.882
[SPEAKER_09]: Even though as you said, Jody, he said, oh no, no, it won't touch it.

01:25:11.044 --> 01:25:11.725
[SPEAKER_09]: Anyway,

01:25:13.072 --> 01:25:16.543
[SPEAKER_09]: In order to stop that kind of stuff, we're going to have to get Democrats winning.

01:25:17.024 --> 01:25:19.632
[SPEAKER_09]: And Harry and we said we're going to play this, and we will.

01:25:19.692 --> 01:25:23.183
[SPEAKER_09]: Harry and Scott think what's going on here, listen.

01:25:23.247 --> 01:25:31.459
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, last year, going into the 2024 presidential election, that was the rare time in which Republicans actually held a lead in GALTS party, I'd imagine.

01:25:31.479 --> 01:25:38.410
[SPEAKER_01]: That Republican lead is no more adiosomigos eliminated now Democrats ahead by seven points at least according to GALTS.

01:25:38.430 --> 01:25:47.483
[SPEAKER_06]: And this is when pollsters call and ask you for your party, basically this is self-reporting of a party you're in, and now you're seeing this seven points swing and what people are saying in this.

01:25:47.463 --> 01:25:48.785
[SPEAKER_06]: And historically, what is that meant?

01:25:48.885 --> 01:25:51.488
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay, what does it matter when Democrats have a lead?

01:25:51.688 --> 01:25:54.392
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm party ID at this particular point in midterm cycles.

01:25:54.412 --> 01:25:57.395
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I want you to take a look back at some past midterm cycles.

01:25:57.456 --> 01:25:59.919
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, right now we got the Democrats ahead by seven.

01:25:59.939 --> 01:26:01.060
[SPEAKER_01]: You go back four years ago.

01:26:01.400 --> 01:26:03.483
[SPEAKER_01]: The Democrats were only ahead by one point.

01:26:03.783 --> 01:26:08.249
[SPEAKER_01]: This doesn't look anything like what we had at this point going into the 2022 midterm cycle.

01:26:08.549 --> 01:26:14.297
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks much more like what we had going into the 2018 midterm cycle in which Democrats were ahead by four points.

01:26:14.317 --> 01:26:16.980
[SPEAKER_01]: They're actually doing better at this point

01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:18.201
[SPEAKER_01]: during the 2018 cycle.

01:26:18.241 --> 01:26:20.263
[SPEAKER_01]: If you average in the Quinnipiac, it's about the same.

01:26:20.563 --> 01:26:27.209
[SPEAKER_01]: But if this particular point, what you're seeing is Democrats doing considerably, considerably better than they did back in the 2022 midterm cycle.

01:26:27.509 --> 01:26:35.155
[SPEAKER_01]: And more than that Democrats been gaining throughout this year compared to what we saw back in the 2021 year in which we saw Republicans gaining during the year.

01:26:35.395 --> 01:26:46.765
[SPEAKER_01]: And what we've ended up with in quarter three is Democrats ahead by seven much better than the position that they had going into 2022 when they were only

01:26:47.268 --> 01:26:58.502
[SPEAKER_09]: You get out there, you protest, you canvass, you're not doors, you push for your candidates, you push your legislators, you push your media to cover things the way that it should be done.

01:27:00.424 --> 01:27:03.267
[SPEAKER_09]: Hey, in 2018, we absolutely kicked ass.

01:27:03.287 --> 01:27:13.900
[SPEAKER_09]: 2022, not so much, but right now, heading into that, where we got the elections in less than a month all over this country, and then we got the big elections coming up next year.

01:27:15.112 --> 01:27:17.595
[SPEAKER_09]: Those people who tell you it's impossible are full of it.

01:27:18.416 --> 01:27:19.998
[SPEAKER_09]: Don't listen to them.

01:27:20.018 --> 01:27:23.442
[SPEAKER_13]: The fact that the Republicans are scared means they have yet to rig the elections.

01:27:24.082 --> 01:27:24.803
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

01:27:25.284 --> 01:27:27.066
[SPEAKER_09]: Jody is right as usual.

01:27:27.606 --> 01:27:28.347
[SPEAKER_09]: All right tomorrow.

01:27:28.588 --> 01:27:29.809
[SPEAKER_09]: It is Wednesday.

01:27:29.889 --> 01:27:31.271
[SPEAKER_09]: Who do we have confirmed for tomorrow?

01:27:31.531 --> 01:27:32.272
[SPEAKER_09]: Bob Siska.

01:27:33.333 --> 01:27:34.334
[SPEAKER_09]: Bob Siska.

01:27:34.574 --> 01:27:35.115
[SPEAKER_09]: Bob.

01:27:35.896 --> 01:27:36.216
[SPEAKER_09]: Bob.

01:27:36.397 --> 01:27:37.658
[SPEAKER_09]: We'll be in tomorrow look.

01:27:38.058 --> 01:27:40.201
[SPEAKER_09]: We got a few other surprises if we can later on.

01:27:40.281 --> 01:27:41.582
[SPEAKER_09]: We best think for you to do.

01:27:42.063 --> 01:27:42.464
[SPEAKER_09]: Go home.

01:27:42.584 --> 01:27:43.785
[SPEAKER_09]: Get some sleep.

01:27:44.002 --> 01:27:46.514
[SPEAKER_09]: Get up, work, and then come back and see us tomorrow night.

01:27:46.916 --> 01:27:48.363
[SPEAKER_09]: We'll be here, Jody, and me, and you.

01:27:48.825 --> 01:27:49.810
[SPEAKER_09]: Here at the politics law.

