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[SPEAKER_01]: This episode of True's Table is brought to you by our NAACP Image Award-nominated book, True's Table, Black Women's Musings on Life, Love, and Liberation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Brothers, y'all all right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey y'all, welcome to True Sabre.

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[SPEAKER_04]: May wise the culture for Grace or Truth.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a comedy and I'm Christina.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This table is built by black woman and four black women.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So welcome to the table.

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[SPEAKER_04]: See how you doing, girl?

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we come this far by faith.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A, just leaning on the Lord.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're trusting in his, I got him all the words.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He never failed me yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He trusting in his trust in all the things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's good, no, she's never at that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's holy word.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's holy word.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to try a lot of things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And no, he's never failed me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah, that's how I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We are, you know, this is, this is our, our season end of that we have a little year, how are you doing as you're coming to this moment?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's season 9,000.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, listen, okay, see tonight this has been boy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We've been through a lot this year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We've been through our 20 crazy fun.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, there's still a resisting series.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, that was the theme again.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That wasn't the black one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Didn't want it to be that way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we didn't want it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Didn't have to be this way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, here we are.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I'm grateful that we made it through the season, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We've had a lot of, uh, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, um, yes, a lot of things, a lot of trauma.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you were about to say.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, what's about?

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[SPEAKER_04]: What are they?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm driven.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They's a triflingness to abounds the choice.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's been a long, a lot of unprecedented transitions.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this is for sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm glad we were able to, to a person for you, you know, and get through this, and complete this, this season.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're talking about that was actually a pretty, um, strong season.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I believe, um, for us still resisting.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Individually do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: All of the things, you know, um, I thought it was, yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What are your kind of,

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[SPEAKER_04]: takeaways thus far from the overall city look back you know as our souls look well yeah well i mean i i i tell you what it was not it was a season that

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[SPEAKER_02]: content wise and necessarily come with challenge, but I think execution and administration and funding wise was was was a one-challenging season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's one of our most challenging.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think our paradigm for how we do things has shifted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think in the earlier days, this wouldn't have felt at the same way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We had our production was different then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think the content we put out was solid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we tried to give people, first of all, first of all, the content is based on what we want to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And first of all, first of all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what we feel like we need to talk about what we need to like externalize, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think in that sense, we were true to what we thought was happening in the moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we wanted to be really candid, and clear, and honest, thus truths,

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[SPEAKER_02]: table.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And at the same time, that truth leads us to a certain type of hope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So kind of a honesty and a hopefulness, I think, ironically, in this year, 25, which is a wild year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, it's just, yeah, just, it's weird.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's been a, it's been a, a doozy, it has.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I often wanted to myself where it was a generation before us and they have a year when they were like this year in 1964 and I think you know like like that was a tough Hello, hello, like I think about like how we how we see it as like a year, you know, in this sense that I imagine there of all you know Throughout every generation, you know, there are people there are years there are times there are moments there are like It's like all in all this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, um, yeah, that's true.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I it's just like

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[SPEAKER_04]: A 2025 is like given like 2020 junior.

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[SPEAKER_04]: 2020 was and it ain't just precedents.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's getting 2020 juniors like Mark.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And yet in some other ways, it's like, oh, right now, this is what happened.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, it's not a piece for like, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, this is like real wild years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is trippy and different ways.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Trippy, you know, it's a, I think about that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But then I also,

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think, you know, there is this little meme of real that's going around about man.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It seems like things were like normal up until like, it seems like 2019, right before 2020.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So everything was going for another, I don't know, it was a one that bad for our generation.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I think we're going to run it back to like, about 2050.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Before, what year?

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[SPEAKER_04]: This is 2019.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, oh, no, that's too late.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was like, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The wheels started falling off.

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[SPEAKER_04]: 2015 when he first declared yeah that was that's when stuff started really popping off and it's like yeah then and then I will even say 1911 from there you know we're honestly it's like

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, the things start to go awesome, the were awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, then because you know, I will say this and I think every generation has had it's like it's moments, you know, moments and so, but I would say that I feel like we went from at least a performative

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[SPEAKER_02]: dignity and civility.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't say that with that like the harposter for real, but like performance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's just, in the words of my mother, the very uncoof.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a very uncoof, it's a very your mother.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's very uncoof time and, and I, and I think the, the validation and platforming and honoring of uncoofness,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that'll sound up at D. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, but, but yeah, there's that's an accusation that black folks have had leveled at them by white supremacy for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And usually the really the accusation is, you can see that I'm a hot mess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is a hot mess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so yeah, I think that has been really sad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that has done so much harm like death.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and pain and suffering have been a consequence of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, I feel like this season, we knew that we had to bear witness to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We had talked about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We also had talked about the fact that, because that is not, you know, the bad news is not the whole story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the whole story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And the story is not only happening in even in bad years, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And in the midst of chaos.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the story is not over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it is not over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: not even 25 of those as we know, right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think I think that's important.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What you know, as you think about what we did this season, you know, we we have sometimes we have our we have series that highlight specific topics or themes, and we've had to hit two primary

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we, but we also had a number of guests, some in the context of the series and just in outside of that as well, and then we had just kind of there topics alone the way and in some of the books that we got to highlight as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So what are some of the highlights, as you think about the guests that we brought to the table.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, this recording year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that a real 12 month year, but the recording year?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Although we didn't have our start to reopen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, what would you like, what's something to get us to say it out to you?

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[SPEAKER_04]: So one of them, we have, we have quite, we have quite a few.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But we have, yeah, we have, I feel like we have quite a few him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Both of them that comes to mind is the sisterhood as we, there's a couple of them, but sisterhood as we systems with Dr. Stacey N. C. Grant.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, she's the like the president of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority Incorporated.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's identical.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we don't play about her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to play about her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to play about her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Incorporated.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, the AK is really don't play about her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a significant history regarding it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: In the past, it was like, it's still stuffy, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so that was great.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But first of all, she's a delight, you know, had the pleasure of knowing her for a couple of years now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll just do our work with him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: St. Jude and whatnot, and so I knew her as a strong believer and so I thought, you know what, let's go, we should have her.

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[SPEAKER_04]: For sure, we're on this show to talk about this, you know, just a lot of the, the, the, the, the misinformation and the, yeah, the information about our, our black Greek legend organization, and that wasn't even the main heart of the talk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was about sisterhood more broadly, Black sister more broadly, but that was absolutely important topic to really, to really dig through.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that move quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, actually, for us, that the, the clips that we put on on Instagram, they had gone, I was viral for true stable.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Right, over 40,000 like yeah, I don't want it like and shares galore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I It's been a hot topic at that topic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Abs and flows and I think it's I think it's a political conversation more than a theological conversation

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[SPEAKER_02]: But those days live well close together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The politics and the reality do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but yeah, it is she was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a lot of the critique I think is about destroying Black solidarity in the political force that he's in our institution.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And our institution, you know, so I thought that it was great to have her on that her own faith, of course, you know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's how it ended.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that is very many things that she does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's just a great organizational representative in just for black recletters, so Wardies in general, obviously is the top position in her sword.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, yeah, I think it was a real gift to be able to bring her to the table.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And also we just have a number of women who listen to faithfully to true stable that are a part of black recletters, so Wardies, so was the right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Even from the season, we had also members, oh, they may not even know but for, yeah, that number's too so I can certainly think of

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[SPEAKER_04]: I guess it's pretty for you and I want to shout out our audience too for their engagement.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We all get that content.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Some of them that are in the D9 that reach, like, oh, I guess it's like, you all the perfect people that have this COVID section because you all, you know, you're just standing in a lot of different worlds, you know, in intersections, the wooden Christian dome and outside, and anyway, and so I thought that was an interesting observation because you know, some people that typically comment, comment, did comment.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just thought it was, I thought that was cool, you know, to see some very good

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you were more engaged than I was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I was like, but I feel like I'm more diverse in people's arguments and narratives.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, especially we just have to close the comments just because people were coming.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It means over a month.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, OK, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we're talking about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just cycles through.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and not because there was anything content.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't really like that, thank God.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But it was just like, OK, there's about almost too much late, too much later.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Next we got a movie for you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for the lack of Medicaid.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hello.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's put it on distraction.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, so that was good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I loved having a Reverend Dr. Alan Bosaic.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, at the table.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then that was a sweet treat.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, just his own experience as a fairy, you know, well decorated, respected theologian, you know, who came of age, came up in the apartheid, short regime in era.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And just really got to see that so fervently.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can my his faith formation deeply reformed.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but that and how.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's kind of high.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, we were in the states and I hear people critique about, yeah, people even talk about reform the algae.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm always, I'm often like, you know, whether they're conservatives or progress or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm often like, what's what school of thought are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you are you talking about like contemporary mainstream restless and reformed TGC movement?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Does that's actually not what you know, you know, most people globally, that's not what they're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there is a there is a pop culture-branded version of even Calvinism and I'm not like a that hard like let's let's you know But but I but I do think people need to have enough handles on what they're critiquing

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, through particular cultural lenses of that theology.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think he was a reminder of someone who's like, well, yeah, I know that theology enough to now be able to critique those who think they know that theology.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing that I'm exactly right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Which is what he did on true stable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He listen, he had time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been doing it for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And this is for decades.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's having a affinity for elder black, black men.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's just the honor of him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Just a, yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think my uncle's a little...

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[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, Uncle.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, take your son.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that was a treat to him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it was so sweet of him to make the time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because he, you know, South Africa and, yeah, doing a talk of versions and it was late for him and he made it for us and that was a short and kind of incredibly kind, incredibly kind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, in that regard, I mean, you think about Dr. Julius Garvey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, you know, who you also came to the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Someone who is well in their 90s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm just celebrated a birthday.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I believe it's 90.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm a medical doctor, author, activist, um, just elder of the African diaspora.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And obviously, the son of the late Marcus Garvey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was just a really, it was just a gift.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think having some of those voices, the season, and, you know, others.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think it is just so important for us to make space to really learn from people who have firsthand experience and the struggle for racial justice, not just in the US context, but it was important for us to have a global conversation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think both Dr. Allen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and Dr. Julius were able to help us to think about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And certainly, I mean, you know, we would be remiss to not name a reverend to you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yes, no, no, no, me too too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Look at him just like her daddy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know it was such a lie the sound it was yeah, I have her at the table was Yeah, I mean the Lord really blessed us with I guess the season obvious.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean we call the role, but but I mean those yes that was great We wanted to have a global lens and there were

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[SPEAKER_04]: there were topics and things that we wanted to talk about this season that we just were not able to get the guests, but we thought the right guests to talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so hopefully that can happen maybe the next next season God willing or maybe I don't know, but there we have not forgotten particularly we wanted to

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[SPEAKER_04]: address the genocides, you know, happening.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not just Gaza, but there's also the proxy war that's happening in Sudan.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And there's so much Congo, you know, and so, but we need the right guests, you know, to be able to speak to those things.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, we believe that bringing the right people to the table next was to be able to talk about, yeah, I mean, I've seen many folks are just up to their eyeballs and living and doing the work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, we respect that, but yeah, we definitely want to make space for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to come to come in the future and yeah, it was just a real gift to highlight and to learn from those voices and I think you know South Africa and the United States have a very interesting parallel narrative in his and understanding of racial stratification and a society that I think is unique to their nation states.

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[SPEAKER_02]: in a way that's just different and I think we certainly have solidarity globally with other people's of people's color black people specifically but there is something about that American and South African narrative together I think for me that has that's striking so I think there's much to learn in terms of the mutuality but I think we're at a time when we need to really listen in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: we have a number of listeners in South Africa so shout out to y'all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I particularly hope that they felt seen and respected during those episodes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and that's the feedback we've heard.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, as they're like, oh, true stuff of really kind of going global, you know, and just kind of that, that was some of the feedback that even our social media manager, you know, praise is brought back to us, you know, who is?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was in Kenya on the continent, Kenya, so that was cool.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was cool to hear that, you know, they were just a affirmation.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, doing, doing the right thing, trying to put it in the work, let it the low, you know, so for sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we got, let's take a quick, come on, and then when we come back, we get more to say, break it down, you know, our table reflections of season nine.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my goodness, a whole nine seasons.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And we are back at the table for season nine table reflection.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we haven't just talked and then reflected on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Reflected is this time during this reflection's episode.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Season nine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just taking it all in, taking it all in, you know, and obviously before the break we talked about just this amazing folks that came for the resistance series specifically talking about, but yeah, but you know, I'm curious, I came and you like, you know, What are some of the episodes or some of the moments where you felt like you walked away really like learning something you know learning is very important to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you felt like you walked away like learning something and, you know, what guests or what conversation come to mind for you when you think about like this was interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This offer be a different perspective and something.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, definitely that our episode with an interview with Janae Lewis, the meaning of Pope, the meaning of Pope Leo, because yes, Pope Leo turns out to be everybody's cousin.

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[SPEAKER_04]: and it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Including, no, no, I was like, well, that's just a very Creole.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's just, that's just, that's not what they got some plans.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that could be a second-hand definition of what it means to be Creole.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that like, we're a little, you know, you're a little bit of everybody's kind of saying so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: With the DNA, it's been DNA in.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely, so I thought that was great because we had never really explored Catholicism on the show as Protestants.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I thought that was really great to hear from Jene Lewis, a cradle, you know, Catholic.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And just the richness of black Catholic tradition, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it's dominant presence in the US as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think we often think of, but it's absolutely ever, it is present.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, uh, and her talking about the parachute.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought that was it was great to hear.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's someone who was who truly practices Cacalsus.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just thought that was fascinating and she's really brilliant.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah Yeah, she was a lot of insight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, she knows me stuff

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[SPEAKER_04]: How about you, was there any episode that you really, oh man, I learned it was a that one or was there somebody?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That one does kind of mine for me as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I really appreciate it, her talking about just the legacy of the former Pope's.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, and what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And just the way, and kind of what they represent within the obviously with the contact with the Catholic household, that household of that tradition.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But also what that,

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[SPEAKER_02]: that hopefully oment in that moment, social politically globally, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because whether, you know, even though we are a Protestant, I think everyone kind of understood like, what does this mean to have this figure come forward?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who is on record with very clear, I was say,

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[SPEAKER_02]: for sure the behavior of political leaders made that known.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I appreciate what is in me for us to have and some some level of a prophetic voice from a global faith leader about injustice and how just how important that is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's important.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The storefront church who got something to say that's truthful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is important to And also is incredibly important for someone in that position and in the popes of it's a very political position Kind of the kind of the kind of the timing of that right so so that that just so that I think it made for a really interesting conversation for us to think about you know

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[SPEAKER_02]: all that that it will bring about as we think about religion and politics, global it, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And also his commitment to the South American church in light of what we see happening in our context.

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[SPEAKER_03]: A U.S.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, shout out to Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what, you know, where his home was for him in many ways.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, so yeah, anyway, I thought that I thought that was really compelling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was really grateful for us to host, obviously, you know, the no-white side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes, with here this season as well talking about political education and democracy education and just from all I was from a lawyer and academic standpoint.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was really great to host her here obviously The Reverend Dr. Nicole Martin came and to talk to us about really psychological leadership Yeah, and the only it is about, you know, Jesus's model of leadership and how it just important that is for like this moment

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[SPEAKER_02]: because it's going to require that kind of sacrificial leadership in the moment that we're in right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just think we have some really, really great light-ups.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What were some of the funniest moments?

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[SPEAKER_02]: All fun season as you sit back and think about this funny.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I loved.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought about Um, I were behind the book with a Sharifa Stevens.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was that was a good one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that was funny.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, because you know the prayer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, man, a pause prayer.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we talked about some serious prayers for it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: everything.

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[SPEAKER_04]: These braids are too tight.

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[SPEAKER_04]: These braids are too tight.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, let's talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: True.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Jackson and all pieces real.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I thought that was really, I love, first of all, the book is just beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, you know, and when, when Black women pray, yeah, I think it's the name of the book.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just a gorgeous gorgeous book.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Check out that episode if you haven't.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And just what I learned too from her is that those, a lot of those, some of those prayers of poems and that she's written, she didn't necessarily experience them herself, but she had a poem for women that have had abortions.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Even though she herself had not experienced them, but she was able to, well, it's the end of the session.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the end of the session, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And to really, to really walk in the shoes of her neighbor and really,

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, and we had to pray beyond our own experience.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and so yeah, so I thought that was pretty powerful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, looking back and reading that book and going, you know, dubbing into the different entries, you know, with her, and having her, you know, just talk about your own connection to Drew's table and how much our show has also meant, you know, to her.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that was cool.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think, you know, it's funny, ironically, to me is one of our first episodes this season was, um, yet we hold it, well, let me get to

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[SPEAKER_04]: still resisting holding on and crashing out first on the title was good because it got people in the way we went you don't say we were really heavily embodied that I mean it was that was my goodness that was all right that was just fresh off yeah I just presented still resisting that and I know that we I know that we will always be resisting until we're glorified right

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I just was kind of like, are we still in this game?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what does it take to be discounted?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, the level of privilege is just dangerous.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was about to say, it's dangerous level of privilege.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, what does it take to clearly be unfit?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What does it do?

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[UNKNOWN]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we entered in that season, I know for myself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we knew what we had to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We knew we had to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was also like, well, we got to talk about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and so anyway, and then all the things around that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that was a high emotion's opportunity and the people experienced it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But for me, that was, yeah, we felt all the fields.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and so I thought that was quite not like back in the movie.

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[SPEAKER_04]: holding on here, crashing out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that went think I love about our ministries.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Are we able to name what is true?

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[SPEAKER_04]: What is true?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and we can hold the tension because that's what we do as Christians.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're so awful, yet rejoicing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that is, we worship the God man, 100% God, 100% man, that's Jesus, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: We live in, we live in, it's just a dichotomy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a deeply paradoxical faith.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is, it's a faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not whole another topic really struggles with Christianity and takes it and takes the the age of historic faith and tries to pull it into the confines of its dichotomous thinking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just, it's not even suited for that particular, it is suited for that type of soul.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that brain that mind said really, really struggles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why we often get some of the biggest, I think, heresies from the Western part of the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't, but I digress.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, don't carry on with this topic.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I, anyway, I thought that episode was like, definitely quintessentially, just terrible for sure, because it was a lot.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it was tough.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We did, it was a lot.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We were pretty active last year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So it was just like, woo.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So coming into the season, I've been exhausted already.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, to be honest.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, and so from like, soul exhausted.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, so tired from it all, you know, not knowing what was, what was to come, and what more will come after this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I thought I thought I thought I thought I thought I thought I thought I thought I thought anything for you that was stood out as like any episodes that stood out as funny.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We had, hold on a question now, then 92% to rest or is this right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we, you know, when does that look like prisoners of hope, we had, and we had episode where we looked back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we talked, we went into some of that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What are meant to be like, why are we back here again?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We have receipts.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's see.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We have mental health strategies.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So just some practical.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: To kind of go back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because we.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was just an opportunity for some basic therapy in the session.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In the session slash podcast.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We talked to Jennifer Lucy Tyler about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was a great episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got to report that at a retreat that live with a group of women.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was really really awesome to be able to feature Jennifer.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was we did black women at play.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we took a line between our retreat and what they meant to just put a play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that was a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, as we reflected on just like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out experiences, but also like really dug into like what's in the get whether it's in the way of that But I think along the way there was a lot lots lots of humor that bubble up Yes, that's true.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm looking also with us.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm looking here at our our season our our list of season episodes your home's bad

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, do you know, we talked about the one big beautiful bill.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We had, yeah, reptile brown on.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the makings of a black on to that might have been the funniest episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Somewhere between animal print, bedazzling and like that just levels.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The seriousness of that conversation, I think, was really fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was needed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we could have done a couple more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The aunties.

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[SPEAKER_02]: a couple more humorous episodes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Rob, Blake, have this been a hot year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's true, that's true.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we have it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a good note.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Mel, bad.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We did that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We had your classroom.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Your sermon, a cave of refugee reckoning.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and now we're in our teens at the table series, which has been, I thought that's been pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, from the young folks, we got to say, what are they talking about, you know, from everything from mental health, to social media, to relationships, to relationships, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then also justice.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I thought you did a great job.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Our little teen summit, our teen summit, was a dream come true.

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[SPEAKER_04]: who had to who really stepped up and just held that down with the teams I wasn't able to make it because well when you live on the fascism you know there's impacts and there's inefficiencies and so there was a ground stop and I literally my flight was canceled I could not.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There were not enough air traffic controllers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good to find out on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there really should be lots of air traffic controllers, I think we need it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there were, there was a whole, this is why there was so much of a rationale.

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[SPEAKER_02]: See, that's why it was a show about crashing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because we bought the camera.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They were in a neighborhood.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, here we are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, it's so, it's just really important.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's really, they are essential workers.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They are essential.

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[SPEAKER_02]: absolutely so yeah so yeah so yeah so yeah so I was not I I've literally actually was not able to make it yeah yeah I was sitting in that I was literally went to the airport I had every intention but we got you to join virtually you got to meet me get the people and pray with them and chat and it gives me context about the show as well but that was a great partnership and we were 10 by 10 10 by 10 and to be able to feature their voices you know I think yeah just an opportunity

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell us what you need to know about you, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I found those conversations to be interesting and helpful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's always good to learn.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there were some really great group of kids.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, young people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I saw older, I am the young people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The young was, we were really great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was glad to be able to do that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they were sweet and just, oh, good hands on their shoulders.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I mean, why is that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought so.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well adjusted, that was a big end of the game.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let me raise the ball.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I love that, yeah, just the way that we have been talking about mental health.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was the latest episode that has released and I thought that was really great.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Even that that wasn't a thing growing up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, in my era, that really was not a normal kitchen table talk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, lock a room talking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, but it's a really discussion of it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was really interesting to hear like, no, this is just regular, this is regular conversation for me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I thought that was, that is a great, that is a positive move and a great direction.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It is from our generation to there's I think that has really, that's one positive thing I can say that's moving in the right direction.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I agree with that, you know, being able to talk about mental health, especially in our community.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, yeah, you asked for that because I, yeah, I said, indeed.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, because that's one thing, because you could look back and black, man, everything's terrible, but that's one thing that has moved in the right direction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there are many things that are, you know, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, what does it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The surgery, the surgery, the surgery, the double is God did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, there's God is yet alive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's always going to be something that's always going to be beauty.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's always going to be going to be growth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's always going to be repentance and change and all this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that is a good reminder.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was good to see that generation say, like, no, we've actually matured in that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, good job, guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Please, come on and help us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Please, as you can see, we're right, why don't we die?

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[SPEAKER_04]: We went through a lot as they have to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're coming of age and all of this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They mean I even have a comparative snapshot, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the season overall.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I hope that it wasn't encouragement to people.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I do hope.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and also a good opportunity to learn.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope that it was practical, some skills, and some accurate historic moments.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're trying to give them some of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and obviously at the end of the day, we hope that it pointy people to the love of Christ.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the truth of Christ.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh man, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, yeah, so we hope, I think I think it was a robust season.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There wasn't, I could have said I think it was necessarily truthful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and also I think also hopeful you know there's some episodes there really do pay the picture What we believe might be coming down in a pipeline That is you know not so great, but

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[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, yeah, always leave a room for, but yeah, it got divine intervention.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know what you're saying?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's some stuff.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's what you will get at your stable, but I am godly proud of the work that we have done here at your stable.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm particularly the season as we have to.

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[SPEAKER_04]: persevere through a lot.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was a bit harder because of the things that we do now because we do video now, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so that requires us another layer of production and getting that out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so grateful for our staff, you know, of not only producers, but people that help us with YouTube, you know, and our social media.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so friends help us with YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then I'll paint you on.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so there's, you know, it takes a village from the choose table to come to

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I mean, and that village really really is primarily buildable of our listeners.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so what we do, we do because our listeners tap in, they support us through their prayers, their advocacy word of mouth, they're still sending episodes to people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're still listening to and just start their Saturday morning and we still have people who can continue to give.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's really our invitation is that you'll support the patron.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This makes even a conversation about a season 10 possible is the root people's intentionality of saying like we want this content We're gonna we feel like we're gonna even need this content for the year to come and or we respect all that you've done and so We just want to honor that work and there's lots of ways to honor and that's one practical way to do it

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[SPEAKER_02]: is about participating in our Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we invite you to do that if you haven't already done it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you have been one of the folks, one of the many folks who've done that, we really appreciate you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This episode would not be, you wouldn't have this episode if not for people who would put that time in investment in that way and to give them their resources to make it happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So thank you so much.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much for your support and we welcome others to join.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And doing that so that we can, God willing, bring you a season there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, because that's what it goes into.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We just need the support, the fight is important to make that happen, so we continue to give you guys these examples in this, uh, I believe Rich content, you know, and that hopefully, you know, points you points you to Christ and helps you to be a better neighbor as we all, you know, as we all need to be, you know, so we, um, I thought it was, I always enjoy being at the table.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You must, you was back through all of these years

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[SPEAKER_04]: nine hundred years no nine seasons, you know, it's got it's good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a long time and I cast the years all along.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A long time to have life, to have strength, to have clarity of thought, to have hope, to be grounded in truth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's the keeping power of God.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That is Holy Spirit's been upholding us.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Man is faithful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We by God's grace.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we think God, you know, who was our executive producer?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hello, hello, that is a real churchy folk.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But like Jesus Christ.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's looking at the mold screw.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't know anything.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Executive producer.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Jesus Christ.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Lord is like, I'm not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For this thing, I'm not your homeboy or your executive producer.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just, uh, it's not resting in podcasting is still a building as it relates to the foundation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'd also encourage people to think about partnering with us in the work of the foundation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's really the embodiment of the podcast where we actually get to invest in the mentoring development of Black Christian one and global teachings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I've faced with the establishment, the establishment group, but so much beyond that, just that the mentorship, the cohort, it's the retreats.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That the foundation really we see it as living beyond even the content that we bring it's a content put to life So we we invite it for folks up to to partner with that nonprofit organization that we found it and so check check it out If you feel ignorant to it as I'm talking to it then make it your business

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[SPEAKER_02]: to learn about your stable foundation and it gives in the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's absolutely and and to partner there as well too and that only just that doesn't know like doesn't that's not about the content here per se but it's about actually building up and supporting Black Christian women and I can't think of a more important time to do that to now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hello and there at this time is now to be so now is the time to put the money where the mouth is real like this is the time when really the black person women actually do need support you know now that all of this you know the things are being moved and the resources are now be redirected oh yeah the the next way of saying rain out support and that normal

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[SPEAKER_04]: So see this, this is actually the time if you're able to do that and if not, we also invite you to pray whether you can or you should do that anyway.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Please just pray for us.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm gonna please do that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, but it was a joy to be at the table with you, my friend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And there's still resistance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because we're still resisting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the time of this is aired, I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like surprise us, Lord.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, listen, listen, we invite you to come on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Breaking news with something good, amen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Breaking good news, amen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, amen.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, so we will see y'all next season.

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[SPEAKER_04]: God willing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Again, God willing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still in.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Or somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, thank y'all for sitting at this table with us to season for the still resisting series and teens at the table And God willing we we're gonna take a nice little break and God will you will see us again for truth table season 10.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my goodness

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[SPEAKER_02]: double digits, and it is in our minds, guarantee to be unprecedented in positive ways.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But in order for us to get there, in order for us to get there to the season 10, and really what we have planned in our mind, we really do need the partnership.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we look forward to y'all for that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, we're thankful that you that you hung with us all season along.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's somebody y'all throughout all of these years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Some people have been seen with us since 2017 or 2017.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, Mark, that's amazing, so, so thank you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And if you let us know, your thoughts about season nine, table reflections, what were your favorite episodes, what were your favorite interviews, what were the funny moments, you know, for you, because sometimes they hear things that we don't hear, or it's something really jumps out of time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I will we would love to hear you know what what what really jumped out of you the season what you loved you know about the season So Mr. thoughts you can send them via email and ask to your table at gmail.com or you can comment you know on our page from Instagram Facebook Reds

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[SPEAKER_04]: Axe, all those things, and let us know you're talking clearly in those.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And of course, don't forget, share the episode.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't often say that, but yeah, share the episode.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you like growth content, what we're doing, please make sure you share and tag your friends, write below our videos and clips and all of that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That helps to grow our audience as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then you can, don't forget to rate me with our show on iTunes, and subscribe on your favorite podcast player, and we are also on YouTube, so subscribe there too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and yeah, I think it's our YouTube audience too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're active and engaged as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so we're grateful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go to that too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And thank you to our our producers.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, first of all, me and Christina are the executives of choose table.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We also like to thank our video and audio producers, both.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to say where we have Patrick.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We have Darrell and Joshua.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a very grateful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, for all three.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, gentlemen.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so yeah, thank you for taking a seat at the table with us and we'll see y'all next season.

