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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kyle's taking the reins, he's going to steer us into some weirdness, and he's circle head banging for those of you who are just listening, yes, circle head banging us directly into the unknown.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the other day, I had to laugh because there was, he was having technical difficulties and he just circle head banging that it's now eight times I have difficulties in life.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to circle head banging at it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It works.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even if it doesn't, it's talking hilarious, so it's a win.
[SPEAKER_01]: Until I'm proven otherwise, I'm circle head banging at every minor inconvenience that happens in my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, gonna be awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And every positive thing happens in my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, everyone at work is gonna be so lost whenever I'm just circle head banging, how the mill of nowhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: I won't.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be like, I had cows got something going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: He probably needs some help.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's got something going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, but anyways, we're kind of going back toward the Cold War UFO flap.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did learn a bunch of shit when I was writing this episode that I don't think a lot of people do know, and that'll be more toward the end of the episode, but it's interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but start now, we're going to touch back down
[SPEAKER_00]: board Smith Air Force Base.
[SPEAKER_00]: This base sits near Lake Huron.
[SPEAKER_00]: Once again, this base was a huge part of the SAC strategic air command.
[SPEAKER_00]: It would see it's it's share from other worldly encounters, as well as the other bases.
[SPEAKER_00]: One night, at the base, at one of the many
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the centuries, he was just out there hanging out by himself.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mine is on business, just another, is an unaventful night, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And the night starts off slow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he's watching the fence as he normally would.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's listening to the roar of jet engines from the guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of just run and routine, practice, and stuff, and as you sit in there, all of the ambient noises from the forest slowly begin to fade out, which is not a good sign in the world of the paranormal, it's definitely saucy.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just mean something not so great is on the way, right, like a predator kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it, it fades all the way out to where there's not a sound at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as if that wasn't creepy enough, the dude sees something in the air a few hundred yards away.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he witnesses an unlit craft hovering with extreme precision, almost looking like it's just being suspended in the air.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's essentially, it's an unlit craft.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like a silhouette in the sky.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, man, like, what in the fuck is that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it first his brains like, is this, is this like a cloud or something, did I, you know, like, what am I?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is going on?
[SPEAKER_00]: And it, it's crazy that it even caught his eye because it had far away it was, so it must have just been,
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he described it as, it could have been overlooked.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it caught here the tension, fast enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know that it would be overlooked because of how, start the lines are that he's describing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was gonna say it's almost like it's almost unnatural enough
[SPEAKER_01]: that it stands out on exactly how it happened to be lit up, you know, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you see specific angles and stuff in nature and you're like, that doesn't happen very often, naturally, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And at the bare minimum, it catches your attention.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, your eyes get drawn to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's you saying the outline is extremely crisp.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything about this is utterly unfamiliar to him.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was stated that it was large and dark, yet it was able to be faintly reflective under the pale glow of the moon.
[SPEAKER_00]: The surface of this craft almost shimmered, kind of like it was cloaked.
[SPEAKER_00]: He noted that the air felt colder and heavier
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so at this point, he's kind of freaking out.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, what the fuck is going on?
[SPEAKER_00]: What is that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Over that way.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he grabs his radio.
[SPEAKER_00]: He calls it in and he gets that initial message through.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then the radio begins to fill with static almost like something is actively
[SPEAKER_00]: And he said that the static in the distortion or whatever was going on with that radio was unlike anything that he's ever dealt with before anything that he's ever heard on the on the radio.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this thing is just sitting there and hovering.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude thought for a quick second about grabbing his rifle.
[SPEAKER_00]: However.
[SPEAKER_00]: Deep down he's like, it's not going to do anything to this thing, whatever that is.
[SPEAKER_00]: My rifle's gonna do fuck all to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, I'm not even gonna do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna, I'm gonna attempt it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting that it has like an entire atmospheric manipulation thing going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we hear about that different aspects of it a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, obviously, the interfering with electronics, and you hear about the sounds going silent, but the change in the like,
[SPEAKER_01]: temperature, and I guess like pressure around where he is is something you don't hear a lot about in UFO encounters, but you hear a lot about in like paranormal ghost encounters with the temperature changing and the feeling changing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting little crossover there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you run with that avenue of thinking and how many times have we read that those ghostly encounters might not actually be ghosts, they might be extraterrestrial.
[SPEAKER_00]: So kind of it kind of does go hand in hand, even though like you pointed out, we don't hear a whole lot of that description in regards to UFO encounters.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's usually the opposite.
[SPEAKER_01]: Usually it starts out as a ghost, uh, paranormal, kind of pulter guys phenomena that kind of evolves into possibly this is extraterrestrial, not necessarily a lot of pulter guy's activity and paranormal ghost activity in the realm of the UFO world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So in that moment,
[SPEAKER_00]: After he decides, all right, I'm not, I'm not going to rambo it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good call.
[SPEAKER_00]: The craft ends up shooting off into the sky and disappearing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when it did this, the radio comes back to life and command is freaking the fuck out.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're, they're trying to get hold of him and figure out what is going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: They want way more details about what he's seen, what he experienced.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of sinister in that concept that it's almost like it, whether it was reading his thoughts or actively listening to his communication and understanding what he was saying, but the fact that they went ahead and he got that initial call out and they're like, nope, we're going to go ahead and jam that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's pretty fucked up to the
[SPEAKER_01]: you hear you hear weird shit like that in cases man like the police officer that was abducted somewhere in South America they found his motorcycle they found his radio taken apart they found his sidearm taken apart and like in in theory they're thinking that they the extraterrestrials like mine controlled him to do this
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy because that means that they actively knew those two components of his attire are threats, because not only can he harm them with the side arm, but he also call for reinforcements with the radios, so they went ahead and neutralized that and said nope, which is it's
[SPEAKER_00]: uh, a hyper intelligent race of beings, but still crazy to consider for some reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know why because it should just be kind of an obvious, though, but it's crazy that they, they got the, they have all that figured out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the way that they just manipulate like the way that we experience things like you hear about the alien amnesia where you don't remember, you know, you hear about the alien apathy where, you know, all this weird stuff is going on and then you're just like, you know, I'm just going to go to bed and I thought worried about it and now I'm starting to get into cases to where people are seeing craft and at first they have this initial like.
[SPEAKER_01]: concern this initial fear, and then they talk about like, it gets to a point where they think the craft notices them back.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they say it's just like the most calm, peaceful feeling they've ever felt like all the fear, all the terror just leaves, just leaves and they're just like, okay, this ain't so bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what this is about.
[SPEAKER_00]: It could be a great thing, but I still feel like it leans heavy towards sinister.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because you hear about people that are that are abducted, you know, when when they do their hypno regression.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're talking about being on the table being absolutely terrified and these things being like there's nothing to be afraid of you're not going to remember this anyway, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's not a very good reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes, that's not a justification there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not hey, we're not going to hurt you.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to remember this anyway, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's the worst.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're just going to do the most invasive.
[SPEAKER_00]: mind-fucking things to you, but it's okay because you're you're gonna not even remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, unless you get hit, never dressed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm gonna remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be awful.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you have the you have the century there, the guard who witnesses the silhouette of craft.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now that was the only thing that takes place.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a crew of very seasoned pilots.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they went on a night run, run emissions, you know, to keep themselves sharp, to prepare for the possibility of war.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they, this, these particular string of missions, they ran them all the time, and essentially all of the guys involved in these missions could, they ran them so much that they could do the missions and they're asleep essentially.
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys, they knew what the fuck they were doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this crew takes off,
[SPEAKER_00]: As it starts out, things are pretty normal and subtly things start to happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Their navigation instruments, which are routinely checked, several times a day, they start to go a little bit haywire.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lights along the cockpit start to flash in and out with no reason to explain.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when they went to make the call on the radio, guess what happens, static things.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it comes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So at this point, all the guys are like, all right, this is fucking weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: But whatever, we're just gonna stay strong, go back to base for and get all these issues figured out.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a nice bust.
[SPEAKER_00]: But as they're flying,
[SPEAKER_00]: The sky's up in front of them are perfectly clear.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a super clear night.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can see everything, and as they're flying, a shadow begins to creep over the craft.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're their airplane, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And at first, the men are like, what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what is casting the shadow onto our airplane?
[SPEAKER_00]: initially they thought that it was some cloud forming above them.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, this cloud had extremely sharp edges.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then one of the guys looks out the window and he's kind of freaking out and he's just motioning for everybody to like, hey, what the fuck is this?
[SPEAKER_00]: What is right
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, this thing was right next to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, all of them are confused at this point because they're like, how the fuck did it get this close to us without us knowing?
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't see it approaching us or anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just, it's almost like it was just here all of a sudden.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the men in, you know, they heard no engines.
[SPEAKER_00]: There were no radar warnings for them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They said it had this, which is a fucking disgusting way to describe this craft.
[SPEAKER_00]: They said it had a predatory calmness to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was smooth and sleek pitch black and super steady.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that they use predatory calmness is so disturbing.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's terrifying.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the commander of the unit, I don't know that he knows what's going on, but he, I think he's worried that they're getting ready to be attacked.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he starts issuing evasive tactics.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, no matter what these guys tried,
[SPEAKER_00]: effortlessly fixed right beside them and and that's essentially all this craft ends up doing but do these guys were trying everything like barrel rolls fucking dives everything that they could do evasively and this thing was just stuck right to them just
[SPEAKER_00]: just anything they did, man, it mimic their every movement in the sky of that night.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden they said it just tilted slightly and shot off in the sky disappearing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And once again, as this thing leaves, the radio has come back to life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, do you, do you think it's like, like a superior, like an air superiority flex that it's doing there?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only thing that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like testing the maneuvers, like testing what we're capable of and like, oh, hey, yeah, like we can handle this too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like I feel like it's an assessment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, to see what's going on and also,
[SPEAKER_00]: like in a roundabout way, it almost has to be a form of a flex like it almost like it nodded at them as it took off like, yeah, see yeah, you know, I hope this goes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope that's what they did.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, yeah, you guys suck, see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't imagine being an officer like a superior officer or the one flying the planes like because at first the first thought that's going to enter your head is that this this is some kind of enemy tech.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[SPEAKER_01]: After a while, you know that that way of thinking is going to shift to 100% there's no way any of our enemies have this tech.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that would be such a like the contrast of realizations there because at first you're going to be on high alert like oh shit, things are about to pop off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you get to a point to where you're like, well, if they wanted to do something
[SPEAKER_01]: We're top of the line here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got top of the line equipment, top of the line operators.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this thing is just playground in us out here.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to start thinking, like, this is, this is well out of my pay grade here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like my anxiety would be through the roof, trying to, like, every evasive tactic that you've been taught that you've honed, that you've perfected.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely worthless.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the laughing at you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely worthless.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it sucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now on the same night, all of that took place.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a parallel to the last episode that I did on these cold war and trusions out on a service road near the base.
[SPEAKER_00]: Truck driver just milled around and going down the road, finding his business, making money.
[SPEAKER_00]: When around midnight, he notices a strange glow up ahead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, first glance, he assumes it's headlights kind of hooking through the trees, like maybe there's a bend in the road up there and he's just seeing headlights poked through the trees.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, he's like, you know, car headlights don't pulse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever's up there is pulsing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like white and bluish light.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, it's illuminating the entire forest up ahead.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, so I don't, I'm pretty sure it's not a car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, his inner voice is like, I do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Turn this motherfucker around and get the burden.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need to be going any further.
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen to the inner voice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but let's not happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: Curiosity takes over, whether it's curiosity or some type of forced thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but at this point, he's like, all right, whatever, I'm going to go ahead
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it does get to a point where, as he's going towards it, and it's getting brighter and brighter, he's like, all right, you know what, this is freaking me to fuck out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm turning around, I'm out of here.
[SPEAKER_00]: But as soon as like, it's almost like as soon as he has that thought, his truck stalls out, boom, dead in the water, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So the entire truck is dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do no engine of lights, nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: He tries and tries to get it started, won't start.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then, from the trees, these humanoid shapes began to emerge.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hell no.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, they had a very human look to them, but their proportions were wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: So much so that he described, he even goes and says,
[SPEAKER_00]: that they didn't belong here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uncanny Valley.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, at this point, his memory kind of blanks out.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's he begins to feel like he recalls in that moment of like where his memory kind of starts to flutter.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says he, he felt like he was falling, but never made impact.
[SPEAKER_00]: The next thing he remembers from that point,
[SPEAKER_00]: was kind of just a shattered mess.
[SPEAKER_00]: He remembers this metallic room cold with bizarre glowing patterns on the wall.
[SPEAKER_00]: These shadowy figures were all around him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as you can imagine, he's terrified.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's trying to move, but all of his moves are sluggish.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's been drugged almost.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like you're trying to fight in a dream.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, I'm just through clay, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sure it's exactly how he felt.
[SPEAKER_00]: At that point, he wakes up on the edge of the road.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, and this is where, for me, beyond everything we just went through, but this is, this would suck.
[SPEAKER_00]: He wakes up on a completely different road, miles from his truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: That sucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, that's, that's without question, you were fucking abducted big dog.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's not, yeah, you didn't walk there, bro.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: He said his body was hurting like he had been carrying a weight for miles.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we started walking at this point because he's I don't even know if he knows where the fuck he's at at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he just starts walking.
[SPEAKER_00]: Picks a direction starts walking.
[SPEAKER_00]: He ends up at a diner and his clothes were damp and his skin was cold of the touch.
[SPEAKER_00]: On top of that, another interesting thing that takes place that night is, oh and as far as he goes, the cops,
[SPEAKER_00]: do end up finding this truck, but there's, they cannot piece together how he ended up where he ended up.
[SPEAKER_00]: They, the cops can't figure it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have no idea how it happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was there, did you say like how, how much time had passed?
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't say how much time had passed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you do, you do hear like abduction stories where they, the abductors mess up and put people back in the wrong spots or they like put their clothes on backwards inside out because I've read a story where they, they dropped the person back off in the wrong spot and came back and fixed it, we took them on to the craft and put them back to where they were supposed to be like,
[SPEAKER_02]: That sucks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine being abducted by an alien?
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you roll out?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're dropped off.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're good.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then my fucker comes back and I'm like, Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here we go again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: But as I was saying, I kind of got carried away.
[SPEAKER_00]: Something else ends up happening that night.
[SPEAKER_00]: That in my opinion is really fucking strange.
[SPEAKER_00]: So inside the base thing started to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we've talked about how these crafts almost act like a, like a jammer or an MP of sorts, however, that to me, this, if I, if I read this correctly, it understood it correctly.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is fucking bizarre.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the B 52's in the hangar, these things have system checks constantly throughout the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure everything is in working order that way.
[SPEAKER_00]: if they get the call, the dudes get it, and they burn, and go after their target.
[SPEAKER_00]: The systems inside these BF-52s, all of a sudden, just start failing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Electrical components for navigation and weapons would blink out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Entire circuit boards get fried.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, as the mechanics or whomever are looking at what is happening to these airplanes, they find almost no visible cause, like something that would have caused these circuits to thrive, these circuits to do this at any other.
[SPEAKER_00]: One system would short-circuit while others on the same plane would be unaffected, which to the guys inspecting makes no sense for these connected systems, almost like something, they described it as an invisible hand selectively sabotaging the plane.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say it was very, very selective was the term that I was going to use, very, very meticulous about like what aspect they wanted to, to disable, which is crazy, yeah, yeah, like, because in my brain, I, I almost picture like the UFO
[SPEAKER_00]: diagram of the blue print and then being like, well, we'll just take this offline this offline and this offline.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then their planes fucked.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because you think if it was like, if it was a generalized MP attack or something, it would take it all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything comes down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not just like one or two per plane and then two different ones on another plane and something different on another plane and it's weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, and it's one of the only times that I've heard something like this as far as the capability of the craft.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, yeah, I'd be curious to know, like, which systems it disabled, like, did it disable?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the ability for them to fly, did it disable the ability for them to attack, did it disable the ability for them to, like, track, you know, like a radar type thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: in that in that regard, but then you have fighter squadrons that are placed all over the United States at the strategic air bases.
[SPEAKER_00]: These dudes are some of the most hardened pilots.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're always ready to bring the pain to anyone or anything entering our airspace.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, 1975,
[SPEAKER_00]: the scope of the mission changes.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have the UFOs that were entering the airspace.
[SPEAKER_00]: And these things were essentially creating chaos for these pilots.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing had prepared these men for what they were encountering.
[SPEAKER_00]: These dudes thought they knew it all in and out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they grew up against something like this and it just fucks them.
[SPEAKER_00]: their inner set missions were ordered and each time these men, they go in looking for a fight, wanting to decimate anything, brave or stupid enough to enter our space.
[SPEAKER_00]: But these craft would materialize right in front of pilots, accelerate faster than any modern aircraft and turn
[SPEAKER_00]: that these guys just couldn't fathom, you know, and one pilot in particular recalls locking in on a small glowing object, only to have his radar start to go crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Another told of how the afterburners on his jet strained as it tried to keep pace with the object.
[SPEAKER_00]: This thing was flying
[SPEAKER_00]: he's pushing his plane to its absolute limits.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this thing just goes, this is it shoots off and disappears.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's standing still.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that would be right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how would you respond when you're, you know, you, you are part of the most advanced military in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're looking at crafts that are outmaneuvering you.
[SPEAKER_01]: out, teching you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to assume that they're also going to be outgunning you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Takes the win.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: At some point, you're going to be like, what the fuck am I doing here?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was going to say.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's got a brush.
[SPEAKER_00]: There he goes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what happens?
[SPEAKER_00]: The military is like, all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That.
[SPEAKER_00]: So on their, on their intercept missions, apparently they would just send one jet for intercept missions.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the military's like, all right, we're going to start sending to that way.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys can work together, you know, team teamwork makes the dream work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we're going to get them around them traps and and put them down.
[SPEAKER_00]: And even as a team, they couldn't do shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: They would be chasing this thing and all of a sudden, it would just appear right behind them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So both of them are just hammering down on this thing and all of a sudden, she goes bloop right behind them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pilots at the time would report clear radar locks on these craft.
[SPEAKER_00]: They would light up with an approaching craft only for the craft to disappear on radar.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just poop, go on to the later.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thinking it would be something with the atmosphere or glitch, they would call into ground control,
[SPEAKER_00]: It would confirm the exact same thing the pilot witnessed, it was also reported all over that communications were blocked during these dog fights, which if you were a single dispatch fighter ready for war up there, think about how disheartening that is.
[SPEAKER_00]: So now not only are you by yourself up there, but you're going up there in something's
[SPEAKER_00]: The sanity is now severed and it's literally just you and that thing up in the sky.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was like, I don't care who you are.
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be terrifying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's almost like.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's like emotional warfare is what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like you're you are alienating that pilot to where it's just him like it is just him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that takes that takes the wind out of a lot of guys sales real real fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I just want to end up in a state and just drive my jet right into that thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it probably wouldn't even do anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially when you've been trained to rely on people back at the Air Force base to keep you in communication.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are your eyes and your ears.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's beyond that windscreen, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And once that's cut off, like, you only know what's directly in front of you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You ain't got nothing else.
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be terrifying.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing that's directly in front of you is teleporting behind you and mocking your maneuvers and disappearing and reappearing.
[SPEAKER_00]: to, it would be some fear-based tactics there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, with all the things that are currently happening on these bases, something I did not know, the military, I mean, the military and government kind of do with the military and government do.
[SPEAKER_00]: And apparently it gets,
[SPEAKER_00]: Or if it gets leaked around, I'm assuming it's brought up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, all of this that's going on starts being compared to a case that happened 20 years prior to these encounters.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're talking in in the 50s, 50, 60s.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's the Ken Ross mystery.
[SPEAKER_00]: The F-89 Scorpion jet was scrambled to intercept an unidentified object over Lake Superior.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ground control was watching as the Scorpion screams off toward its target, and it's definitely on a B-line path to intercept its target.
[SPEAKER_00]: The two blips on the radar finally converge, intercepted successful in one object remains.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: Only it was the unidentified craft that was left standing.
[SPEAKER_00]: The scorpion crew was never seen or heard from again.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have no idea where the craft or crew went.
[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't find any wreckage?
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Socks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this whole time I've been preaching that they're hostile.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Told you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And imagine, imagine everything that we've covered in the past two episodes of this, imagine how those pilots feel finding out this information.
[SPEAKER_00]: They knew 20 years prior that they just made a fucking jet and crew disappear.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't even know what happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know if they shot it down.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know if they put it off into fucking never never land.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have no idea where that thing went.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would be live it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you feel real disposable at that point.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, 100%.
[SPEAKER_01]: Real reasonable.
[SPEAKER_00]: So now, people are wondering if the same being that operated in 1953, were the same ones that are here in 1975, that the questions start being asked.
[SPEAKER_00]: Had they just been lingering around waiting for another chance or had they come from somewhere else again?
[SPEAKER_00]: Some people began to wonder if that incident was simply overlooked and what could have been learned
[SPEAKER_00]: I would venture to say that it wasn't overlooked.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was more or less just wiped them with a rug.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is, this is after 47, which is the most notorious UFO year known.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the military's just not gonna shrug off an aircraft in our airspace.
[SPEAKER_00]: and it just straight disappears one of ours.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't think that that's how that plays out.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was that was purposely kept under wraps because you're going to take the like again.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to take the wind out of a lot of guys sales when you're like, look, we don't know what these things are.
[SPEAKER_01]: We do know that the crafter better than ours.
[SPEAKER_01]: We do know that the pilots are better than ours.
[SPEAKER_01]: We also do know that they can just make you completely disappear without a trace, no
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no interaction and and we won't know what happens to you, but we're going to need you to go up there and check it out exactly exactly that's that's pretty much what I have wrote down almost to you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you you would keep this story buried for two reasons you're not going to want general property population to find out about it because they're going to freak to fuck out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're also not going to want military personnel to find out, because they're the ones that have to run off into battle and come back victorious in that those those poor folks didn't even get to come back.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that'd be like, hey Kyle, we have got an armor plated grizzly bear with chainsaws for hands.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's already taken out six other battalions.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to need you to go up there and yeah, check it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, no, no, I'm good.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, I, here's what I can do.
[SPEAKER_00]: You go ahead and give me the launch codes for the big one.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll send that bitch.
[SPEAKER_01]: Take care of the threat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just fly up there and see you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_01]: They can't, they can't abduct a, they can't catch.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh man, that makes me think it's a way side note, but totally makes me think of, I almost see the fucking clip.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now I should have because there was a battlefield clip where I saw a new guy trying to fly a jet and he was upside down on the ground shooting across the ground and runs into a building.
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be us flying a jet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I saw one that was the helicopters like when you get in the battlefield helicopter and you remember you don't know how to fly the battlefield helicopter It's just slamming into buildings and shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be a hundred percent the alien to be like you know what we don't even have to like show off our maneuvers because they're showing off their maneuvers and we are safe here
[SPEAKER_00]: We're just going out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're good.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no there's no immediate threat on this planet.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so if all of that isn't strange enough, I found another intercept mission.
[SPEAKER_00]: That gets launched in 1975.
[SPEAKER_00]: The pilot does return.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, It was different than the other intercept missions.
[SPEAKER_00]: This pilot.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was, he was like the dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's Tom Cruise, essentially, from top going, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: This dude was confident.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was disciplined, extremely sharp.
[SPEAKER_00]: When he comes back from this mission, he's a broken shell of who it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a good sign.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, this dude, this dude, wouldn't even fucking look at people anymore when talking.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not to mention, he would only speak short vague sentences.
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy would flinch at the most mundane sound.
[SPEAKER_00]: And his sister ends up noticing all of this right away.
[SPEAKER_00]: And one night, she starts asking him about the mission.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess he, because his sister, he starts recalling what happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, you know, I recall taking off.
[SPEAKER_00]: Headed to intercept however after reaching out to Tune, I don't remember anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was all blur.
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't remember chasing the object or how the mission even concluded.
[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing he remembers is that when he landed, the world seemed unreal to him.
[SPEAKER_00]: to a quiet spot in the military and his sister actually ends up becoming his voice essentially telling his story to UFO investigators.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not to mention, you have the civilian side, you know, to all this too, but not just in immediate locations of the bases all over the world, during this little
[SPEAKER_00]: pieces.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, it's just like it did heavily focus on the bases, but it also branched out across the entire planet.
[SPEAKER_00]: I found there was a, it's called Charlie Red Star.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was an object that was seen all over Canada.
[SPEAKER_00]: People would describe it being dull and light, sometimes as bright as neon.
[SPEAKER_00]: They talked about the speeds it would travel, making no sound, and sometimes cloaking itself or disappearing right before their eyes.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it became a community thing too, actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: People would go out in the night looking for this object because it would show up consistently night after night.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you have the experiences people had on the N6 motorway in the United Kingdom, and this actually reminds me a lot of the Miami Mall incident.
[SPEAKER_00]: People report sightings of humanoid figures in wooded or rural areas of the motorway.
[SPEAKER_00]: People would describe glowing human-like forms, sometimes they were seen stepping onto the road only to disappear.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, people, yeah, people also began to report this as fuck.
[SPEAKER_00]: People also began to report abandoned cars along the highway, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: People would stop to investigate and find the cars completely empty.
[SPEAKER_00]: No damage to the vehicle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And no reason as to why the person driving it would just abandon it in the first place.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's nuts.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want where they're missing people in the area.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't, it didn't specify, but I did people also reported missing time during this stretch as well, saying that the clocks on their cars weren't matching the actual time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So people, essentially like my brain went like these people just disappeared, but these people could be stumbling upon people's cars who are actively being abducted at the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so bizarre.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even the fucking Amazon had reports coming in during this time.
[SPEAKER_00]: People describing glowing orbs, hovering over homes and following vehicles.
[SPEAKER_00]: Reports came in large numbers of people being woken up in the middle of the night by bright lights.
[SPEAKER_00]: Others talking about how they lost hours of time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Waking up disoriented miles away from where they were last seen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some people recall seeing beings with almond shaped eyes and metallic clothing while others don't remember shit other than a bright light.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, one farmer sees a bright light falling to his field and then he isn't seen for two days when they found him he was walking the river banks miles from his property pale and dehydrated with no idea how he ended up where he did.
[SPEAKER_00]: After a few days, he recalls some of the event where these beings take him on a craft.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, they had elongated faces and communicated with me telepathically issuing cryptic warnings about humanities and collective earthenance ecosystems, which we've heard in many of the adoption, and many of the adoption cases.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of the biggest tropes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have a citing reported in 1973 in a CIA intelligence document concerning an experimental Soviet missile test range in what is now Kazakhstan.
[SPEAKER_00]: The object was observed in the summer of 1973 at site 7, part of the Sare Shagan weapon's testing range The observer a Soviet source saw a bright green circular object or mass in the sky which is kind of like what you saw the other day over
[SPEAKER_00]: In the 15 seconds, the green circle widened then it in multiple concentric green circles form around it within minutes of that happening it disappears, there were no sound, no explosion and the sky was just clear the witness estimated it hovered above cloud level.
[SPEAKER_00]: Though diameter and altitude were not determined precisely.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, site 7 was a weapons testing range because I tried finding UFO reports over Soviet bases during this time during the Cold War.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we do always hear about death, that flap of UFOs that come in to nuclear silos, unarmum, armum, the whole night.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm kind of trying to, at this time, I'm trying to dig around and find those stories.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so we got, you know, there were claims, but it does seem that a lot of the Soviet encounters happen in the 80s, not the 70s.
[SPEAKER_00]: So by then, I believe in the 80s, Cold War's Done.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, uh, it went on for a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean double track by a timeline here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cold war essentially went from 72 to 91.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I guess it does count as the Cold War then.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Our,
[SPEAKER_01]: What is this time period around 1985 to 1991 mark the final period of the Cold War?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, 72 to 91 essentially.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it makes like, it doesn't make you wonder if these things, if the uptick and these things do have to do with the geopolitical climate, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: It could be because like it's it's pretty crazy out in the world right now and look at all the the drone shops and the orbs in all this shit like like it seems maybe they show up and we're on the brink of destroying ourselves and they're like hey there's a bigger fish to fry here you don't need to be blowing yourselves up yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But with that green and green sphere encounter, the CIA classified under atmospheric optical phenomena or phenomena of unknown origin.
[SPEAKER_00]: So swamp gas pretty much.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you, man, like the thing that I saw in Georgia was weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds similar to what the Soviet saw in the way it made me feel was weird like because you talk about like it manipulating the way we think in like alien apathy and on the shit like when I saw it I couldn't take my eyes off of it Like it had me locked in like I didn't think to get my phone I didn't think to do anything but look directly at that thing and like I could not
[SPEAKER_01]: take my eyes away from it until finally after probably it was a while 30 seconds maybe a minute like I almost went to Mel and like come here and see if you like do you see this and when she came over as soon as as soon as like because I kind of pointed in the direction that I was seeing it as soon as she locked eyes with it, it knew and it just goes.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's also weird that like I saw a glowing orb and like you saw a glowing orb during your during your stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember like you said it looked like the orange campfire like shit's weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: It sucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: And during that encounter with mine, I just went back to bed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, essentially after it went out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, that was it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird, you know, it's not something, because if somebody was telling us that, we would be like, well, you should have got your phone and you should have took a picture of it and you should have missed.
[SPEAKER_00]: You shouldn't have done that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't even cross my fucking mind because I was just, I don't know if it's because I was worried if I took my eyes off of it, it would disappear.
[SPEAKER_01]: or if it just had me so locked in, like I was just like mesmerized, like I was mystified at what I was seeing, like it's weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where does it has that almost emotional effect as it's going on?
[SPEAKER_01]: Emotion might not be the right term, but like it's kind of like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And during the grain circle, incident there,
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... Soviet radar operators and technicians report that the radar is a race temporarily malfunctioned during the appearance of the green circle uh... years later declassified Russian language reports and UFO researchers claim villagers saw a glowing emerald halo in the sky that opened like a flower and
[SPEAKER_00]: But C.I.A.
[SPEAKER_00]: says high altitude asthma discharge possible energy emission from a non from non conventional origin.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fuck does that even mean I have no fucking glue high altitude plasma discharge from what they want one of the one of the claims was weapon weapon or propulsion test.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it just makes you wonder, like if that's on the table in the fucking with 70's there, I thought, like, it just makes me feel like I don't know anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like you got, you got atmospheric plasma weapons?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do we don't know about it?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I guess that's kind of what it makes it sound like, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and what was the other thing they said after that after the plasma?
[SPEAKER_00]: possible energy emission from non-conventional origin, whatever that means.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what does non-conventional origin, that's like non-human intelligence.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it says side notes in the document, and it was discussed alongside unidentified atmospheric vehicles.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just changing the name of UFOs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that's what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: The piss of me off.
[SPEAKER_00]: still be a scientist actually had a few accounts on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: There were several research simulator, defective or gave interviews claiming the USSR tracked plasma type craft over strategic sites, often before or after nuclear tests.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: They described these as intelligent luminous forms appearing when nuclear tech was being tested.
[SPEAKER_01]: which is interesting because you do you do here of of Plasmoid UFOs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And or possibly possibly Plasmoid like creatures that live in the atmosphere, but also like the the last that last little bit of military footage that came out with the Reaper drone firing the missile at.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the kind of just absorbed like Plasmoid it and kind of
[SPEAKER_01]: to two or three little other bubbles that kind of just followed itself at very plasma like in in consistency.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good call.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it seems like from 77 to 82 was around the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: The still be a nuclear missile fields.
[SPEAKER_00]: Start seeing increased UFO activity.
[SPEAKER_00]: Several accounts by Russian researchers described strange aerial objects over missile storage facilities and strategic rockets.
[SPEAKER_00]: Unisner, you near Capyston, you're there was a famous incident.
[SPEAKER_00]: Happened in 82 at a nuclear missile base and Ukraine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Multiple witnesses including military officers claimed they large glowing disk hovered over a missile site for 15 minutes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Launch codes allegedly went active briefly as if the missiles were preparing to fire, then returned to normal after the object left.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's such a flex.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh dude, you know, that's that's the probably the biggest lecture you could have.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we get we can end you without ever firing a bullet.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can end you with your own munitions.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're just terrifying.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the problem with the fucking Soviets is that they have essentially kept all of their files on this underlocking key.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't let like some of it has leaked, but most of it is underlocking key.
[SPEAKER_00]: because it says during the late Cold War, the Soviet Ministry of Defense and the KGB created official programs like SETCamo and SETCA and to Catalog UFO reports from military units.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when you start to see structured collection of data from nuclear and strategic sites, but almost all of it stayed classified.
[SPEAKER_01]: Based on size alone, you almost have to assume that not only has the United States recovered craft and back engineering technology, you have to assume that China is probably under recovered craft and tried to back engineer a technology and you have to assume that Russia and the Soviet Union, just out of sheer size, if one of these crafts were to go
[SPEAKER_00]: And arguably, it's three superpowers of the planet, which they're going to have the most interest in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: You could probably, the most capable of doing it, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I want to look into the Ken Ross case, like a deep dive into that, because that's I think I've heard it before.
[SPEAKER_01]: but never enough to where I looked into it, just like like an aircraft, an Air Force craft, it went to intercept UFO and it was disappeared.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like that's the crux.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also that M6 highway stuff is fucking weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[SPEAKER_00]: That would remind me so much of the Miami mall incident.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the humanoid beings that were afforded yet completely covered up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I smell you didn't see that.
[SPEAKER_00]: No more about it, but it is strange, but it also makes sense why like if it is true that the nuclear codes got activated and deactivated, it makes sense that we only hear rumbling of it because the Soviets have it classified.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they're like no, we're not letting any of this out.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, because they don't want to seem like they're they're so easily infiltrated, it makes you look as a superpower, it makes you look stupid, it makes you look weak, it makes you look vulnerable and and that's not something you want out there, especially at a time like during the Cold War.
[SPEAKER_01]: whenever, you know, your, your button heads with the other big bomb thrower.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you've got, you know, ET coming in, accessing your codes, just all willy, nilly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure first they might not even assume to was ET.
[SPEAKER_00]: It might have assumed it was the Americans coming over.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And talking with everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you imagine you imagine that?
[SPEAKER_01]: being on base and those launch codes take off.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'd be terrified.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Reset the router.
[SPEAKER_01]: Reset the router.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm blog everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be terrifying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you know, that's once one of those, once one of those goes off, just.
[SPEAKER_01]: Game over.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mutually assured destruction.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially if it's aimed at another country.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's in itself, you wrote.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bad news.
[SPEAKER_00]: all players involved.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it would be a bad day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely gave me some some deep dives I want to get into though, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's it's it's a cool topic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, it's it's and they nuclear codes is kind of what drew me to it because it's it's just something you always hear in the rubblings of the of the UFO world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, always hear about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to text me like if you've got the dates of the Ken Ross into dance so I can look it up and the M6 stuff and I'll go through my humanoid entity books because they go by decade.
[SPEAKER_01]: and I'll look into them because they have a lot of encounters that are not American, which is awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I was looking up stuff for the Weedy Board incident, like there's so many Russian entity encounters for whatever decade I was looking in.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's at whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, tons.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, more than Americans.
[SPEAKER_01]: crazy because I think I think we live in this like bubble like like all parent like in our brains like the parent almost should happens here because it's easily to access for us like if we went to go to a haunted house we're going to go to one like in America if we went to go to some famous UFO site incident we're going to one this in America you know and just just to like kind of expand that and see that there's there's so much
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like it opens the door to all kinds of shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, the world's fucking huge and creepy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how are we roll?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like when you bring shit that I don't know a lot about, because I think it's just kind of plants, they'll see them a brain.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and like I said, you know, by us doing this homework,
[SPEAKER_00]: like if we get into interviews and stuff, it opens, it opens our pool of knowledge vastly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Makes this a little better equipped to understand things, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Makes this cooler.
[SPEAKER_00]: That too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is the important thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: don't waste your time on chemistry in geometry paranormal knowledge.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so terrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a cult knowledge.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where that's what gets you places in life, kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but on that note, we'll wrap her up there.
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