[SPEAKER_00]: Three, six, we on this, so true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, welcome to Birdland.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ladies and gentlemen boys and girls Baltimore sports fans of all ages welcome to section three three six next generation Baltimore sports suck.
[SPEAKER_04]: I am you're indiringly Stuttering host Matt Sroke as always.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm joined by the button lover Josh Sroke.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey Matt.
[SPEAKER_01]: How's your day going?
[SPEAKER_04]: Good good.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's been a while since we talked Josh.
[SPEAKER_01]: It has it has.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I don't know things have been busy here I know you've been busy with with with little ego on and on
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's, let's not sugarcoded.
[SPEAKER_04]: We all know the real reason we haven't recorded in a while.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's because Josh has to listen to the new Taylor Swift album on a loop non stop.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she couldn't focus on anything else for the past couple weeks.
[SPEAKER_04]: So now that Josh has kind of moved past that we can record the podcast together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we don't do Taylor Swift in this house.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are grown adults.
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought it was a crime for women in their 30s and 40s to have the album.
[SPEAKER_04]: The second it comes out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I believe you are too old for Taylor Swift in your 40s.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think he's the target audience.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the target audience is college kids.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I think this is a sidetrack.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to get down by.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you're so off base.
[SPEAKER_04]: These kids Emily grew up with Ted Taylor Swift.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think the majority of her audience is 30s and 40s.
[SPEAKER_01]: I maybe, I mean, I don't, let's see.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can tell you thanks to the internet.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, well, I don't really trust everything in the internet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do my own research.
[SPEAKER_01]: 45% being millennials.
[SPEAKER_04]: Are you?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what kind of.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, that's 30s and 40s.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's 40s.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm at the tail end of the money.
[SPEAKER_04]: At the very end.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this, that doesn't make sense because it also just said something about Singapore being a huge percent.
[SPEAKER_04]: Say I told you don't trust the internet.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you earn research?
[SPEAKER_04]: We got a lot, we got a lot to get into.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Orioles have been so busy for the past two weeks that we've got a lot to talk about.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm more meant, glamping.
[SPEAKER_04]: Emily and I had a big fight over my cheapness.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's probably better for the Michael Marishow.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got the Michael Marishoke cookbook coming out and I've been building the cookbook and put everyone's recipes in.
[SPEAKER_01]: You are the only recipe that has a footnote added to the recipe because you added a note in your recipe that this entire recipe as long as you grow your own vegetables will be less than 50 cents a person.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's pretty good, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I bet they don't even talk about costs with the other cookbooks.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, but pretty, pretty big
[SPEAKER_01]: pretty big requirement there to grow your own vegetables.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it's not that hard and it helps the environment.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've tried twice and I haven't gotten a single vegetable out of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, before we talk about Aberpool hosts, let me ask you this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's a here is what the question is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that we were talking about Aberpool hosts.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's it's whole podcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, when we get the Oreos of Entry around Aberpool hosts talk.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, we haven't shared kind of our thoughts, kind of as oils wrapped up to or kind of we haven't had this post-mortem about the oil season.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I don't want to belabor it, but I do want to talk about a couple of things.
[SPEAKER_04]: But Emily and I let let me ask you because I think I'm probably in the wrong, but I just want to verify I this always comes with travel.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is where I think my cheapness for whatever reason emerges in more than any of the area in my life in terms of travel.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we're going to Houston next month.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I've been following the airline tickets as I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: And when we were out glamping last week, I got an email from Google Flight that the price dropped.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the price of Houston are not cheap.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like 100 bucks.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I like the flight 50.
[SPEAKER_04]: But that's cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because you buy all your flights one way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, do one way.
[SPEAKER_04]: And though now they're picking up and getting sneaky on it and sometimes you've got to watch them, they'll put a round trip lower than the one way because they're on to people like me who booked for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: People like you are weird in psychos.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm sure it's a red flag off every time someone purchases a one way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It does, yeah, they don't want you to booked the one way.
[SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, it was for 50 for spirits.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I booked it right away.
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess $50 is my, that's my price.
[SPEAKER_04]: Later, after glamping, I'm talking with Emily, and I'm going to listen Emily, I got tickets.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're spirit.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I didn't get the carry on or anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you got it, we're just going to rock with the backpack.
[SPEAKER_04]: And...
[SPEAKER_04]: Emily was so appalled at the idea that we would go away for the weekend and I just wanted her Josh to just consider the possibility of packing a backpack and she wanted him to consider the possibility.
[SPEAKER_04]: She said she needed to check on we're going to like a nice dinner at the anniversary thing and we're going to go into a nice dinner and she said, you know, the idea that I would even ask her to take everything in a backpack and not have
[SPEAKER_04]: a carry on.
[SPEAKER_04]: What for how many days a weekend for I decided to send it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you shouldn't even expect to take a bag.
[SPEAKER_01]: It should be just assumed it's a weekend trip and it's a carry on trip.
[SPEAKER_04]: You think you need a carry on for a weekend trip?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, that's what I mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right, to spirit charges for the carry on.
[SPEAKER_04]: That carry on is as much as a ticket.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think the is a reasonable to expect or just take a backpack.
[SPEAKER_01]: with no, are you, is this how we can trip with just you or will she be around other people?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, we're going to a nice anniversary party with a lot of other people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then yeah, she needs a carry on at minimum.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can literally travel with a fanny, but but if you need to take if you need to wear a full suit, you can't throw that in a backpack.
[SPEAKER_04]: Watch me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're gonna deal with all the wrinkles when you get there.
[SPEAKER_04]: They can iron, they're gonna iron at the hotel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, the other thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think at this point.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I thought this second thing I did, Josh was more egregious, but she didn't even put up a fight about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Cause I think she was just either fed up or there might be another reason when I was booking the other way.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just booked the other way last night to go to come back home.
[SPEAKER_04]: Frontier this time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, frontier as it's nice deal, where it's called the the bundle or something, where you can get to pick your seat and you get a carry on for next to 30 bucks.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the problem, but if you don't do that, then you don't get a carry on.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just get your personal item.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what I want to do is, and frontier, what let me do this, I wanted to get her an economy bundle, her the bundle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And me just, no bundle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: But when you buy tickets, you gotta do the same thing for both tickets.
[SPEAKER_04]: You gotta bundle tickets, or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: So why not just buy them separately?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I did.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the problem is, when I do the basic,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and she wants you to sit next to her.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's what I said.
[SPEAKER_04]: I said Emily, I'm trying to save 30 bucks.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so is it okay if we might not end up sitting next to each other?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think she's the flight.
[SPEAKER_04]: Three hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pay the 30 bucks.
[SPEAKER_04]: Emily was like, I don't care, Matt.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think as she probably wants a break from you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think of it because I think she actually didn't want to sit by me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Either she didn't want to argue with me again because of the carry on thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't want to sit by me.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not about wanting to sit next to you on the plane.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's about not wanting to have this conversation with you now.
[SPEAKER_01]: just whatever because she doesn't want to have it now you pay the $30 and then you get on the plane and I know you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You will be looking around at all the empty seats and being like I didn't have to pay the $30 and for three hours you would be talking her ear off about how you can't believe you spent $30.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know what I did.
[SPEAKER_04]: I did a good compromise, Josh.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you'll be proud of me.
[SPEAKER_04]: I spent a little bit extra money.
[SPEAKER_04]: I spent six dollars to, you know, you can choose your seat for six dollars.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so, you know, you could pick her seat with her bundle.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I picked her seat.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I, when I bought my ticket, I chose my seat right next to her for the extra six dollars.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're, um, your cheapness is ridiculous sometimes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know, but I'm glad to talk to you because I can't talk to this about Emily.
[SPEAKER_04]: She doesn't want to hear it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't, it's, it's, it's gonna get you in trouble at some point.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the problem, what, what am I saying?
[SPEAKER_01]: It does get you in the trouble, but then you just laugh the trouble off.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's ever, maybe other people stress about it and you don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll let Silas stress about the fact that the light rails now broken down and you can't get to the airport.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you picked us up, Josh, no problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was always a plan B. Oh, I saw Silas's face walking to that car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know he was not happy.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he did something the other day.
[SPEAKER_04]: We were at a travel ball tournament and we got second place.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, I was a little bit mad.
[SPEAKER_04]: We got second place because we've been kind of crushing it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And stylus, you know what his problem is, I've never, I rarely ever see how matter upset on the baseball field.
[SPEAKER_04]: Even when he loses, he's just like, how could he be just to be out there playing?
[SPEAKER_04]: And sometimes, and then we had a fall ball game because he's doing fall ball too, which is so much fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, he popped out twice, and then he was on deck to come up in
[SPEAKER_04]: I saw a mad at his play and mad at kind of the end result, even though it's team one, he was so mad because he popped out twice and didn't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: And maybe he's still happy, maybe he's still happy to see a mad, because he usually just happy out there all the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Where's the competitive spirit dude?
[SPEAKER_04]: Get mad, okay?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like the Orioles when they lose the Lali gagging around there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Get mad, get some fire.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but I think the Orioles, I think the Orioles this year, as bad as they were, did show a lot of fight.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but when they're losing, they don't care.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was only care when they're winning.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was glad to open up game changer and watch a little bit of silences game on Sunday and see him hit a triple to left field and then accept bad a triple to right field.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: He spread it around.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: You want to get into some moral stock?
[SPEAKER_01]: We can unless you want to hear about old man softball.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, a quick old man's a softball story.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I just want to I just wait, what is old man?
[SPEAKER_04]: So how like what it is, is there age requirements here?
[SPEAKER_01]: There is there is you have to be at least 45 years old.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I'm almost there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I am the only person in the league that still has a four in my number in my age.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is why you would for being the oldest player in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am the kid.
[SPEAKER_04]: So now the youngest player in the league.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, look the script.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, I'm the kid.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the kid.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every team we play, someone on the, someone on the other team comes up and asks me my age.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the, and the other coaches are all taking notes because they all want, they all want me on their team next season.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because here's what I because I'm the kid or team are you pitching now?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, you probably know around now.
[SPEAKER_04]: I am playing third base third base Yeah, yeah, third the first.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's outrageous.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been perfectly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been playing perfect third base perfectly fine even made a little slide and Catch the other day
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, how many times do you have to stop for injury?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I haven't had that, but here's what I will say when we go into the dugout.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, sometimes you go to the dugout and teams are passing around, sunflower seeds, bubblegum.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man, don't make a bubblegum with these kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: These evening leagues, you'll have a case of beer being passed around.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the old man league?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but they're passing around.
[SPEAKER_01]: A stick of icy hot.
[SPEAKER_01]: between humans and I'm like I'm watching them and I'm like they can't just buy their own like one guy rubs it on and then he passes it to another guy who runs it on who passes it to a fair shop stick yeah you know and they're all like just don't rub it on your groin I'm like wait people rub I see how on the groin that would be good if it's sore I guess you got to draw the line somewhere
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's what gets passed around.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the dugout for Old Man softball.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's good to know.
[SPEAKER_04]: You'll be there soon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I see.
[SPEAKER_01]: One Tuesday, we've been getting a lot of rain.
[SPEAKER_01]: And my games are Tuesday mornings.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Tuesday is the only day that I can play in the morning, because we recorded the Michael Marit Show in the afternoon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this past two, because of all the rain, they've been scheduled to make up.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they scheduled to make up for Thursday morning.
[SPEAKER_01]: and the game ended Tuesday and we're packing up and the coach was like, all right, I've got a list.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone will be here on Thursday for the makeup game, except for Josh, because he still has a job.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the only person on my roster with a job that's over Tirees.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, I guess if you play in the daytime that limits the pool.
[SPEAKER_04]: It does.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I like it because it means I get to play while the kids are at school and Kelly's working, and I don't take away from any family time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I was saying that maybe they do maybe I'm just looking that I'm not here and making I could make in my schedule to get a morning off the planet, but you're not old enough yet, that's true.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just got you there, but I'm too young for the regular leagues.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, too old for the regular leagues.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that's how it goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was the old man on my last two teams and now I'm the kid.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maxures are going to come play with you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hey, he would get Joe Flacco and Aaron Rodgers out here as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, how about Joe Flacco up his career is something that's it's absolutely amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really, he has had a really special career and the problem and what it does, it tells you more about the guy, the person of Joe Flacco than the skill said he has.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now he can go on a team like he was on the Browns two weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: to the Bengals and he's immediately like a leader on that sideline and has the respect of everyone.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's been with a bunch of terrible teams of franchise.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And often you see like that bring players down, but not him.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not with us down by any chance of franchise.
[SPEAKER_04]: He always rides the above.
[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite show, though, is, and we saw it last night, is when the game comes down to a field goal.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we saw this in Baltimore.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe we saw this in Cleveland or wherever's he last year?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have to say something?
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw this somewhere else.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where was he?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but game will come down to a field goal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Time running out.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not one of these stand on the sideline.
[SPEAKER_01]: Get ready to yell guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes, he sits on the bench, he did his job.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he'll just wait that out and he doesn't cheer and you've muted yourself.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, so no, but there's no one so I thought that this old man ball yesterday was gonna be a high school on a fair like it did.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Joe had like 30 some fantasy points if you happen to pick him up.
[SPEAKER_04]: which you did, I assume.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I dropped him.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not smart.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who'd you pick up an instant spot?
[SPEAKER_01]: The fields.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I think fields had statistically one of the worst.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: The uniforms isn't as good as football.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, trust me.
[SPEAKER_04]: I looked at such a work out well for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I dropped him when he got benched by the Browns, and then I didn't think anything of it when he went to the bangles.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I went and looked to try to pick him up, and someone else already picked them up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, my favorite is shots of Joe, like smiling and laughing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then like a minute later, shots of Aaron Rogers is always yelling at people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, did he see where they were celebrating?
[SPEAKER_01]: And the one stealer went and jumped on Aaron Rogers back and tackled him to the ground.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he got all up and pissed and pushed you guys off.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's just two different people.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think it all also says the Jill Flagler thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Also to me, we're real something about how
[SPEAKER_04]: just at the NFL teams.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the way just the league is, they don't know what they're doing all the time with the corporate quarterback.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, how many people have gotten jobs over Joe Flacco repeatedly?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, even a guy like Aaron Rogers is so, you know, sought out when Joe was just sitting there and he'll make you a better team than.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been quarterback in the league.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the same week that Lamar got hurt and Joe got benched.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I texted you guys immediately.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just just go trade for Joe.
[SPEAKER_01]: He won't cost you much.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he can keep you in games.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the Ravens didn't do that, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Bengals did and look what a column.
[SPEAKER_04]: I bet we would have one more win right now, if we had Joe.
[SPEAKER_01]: You, Joe, it's Joe probably would have put out one of these wins, I would think.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have, we have more weapons on the field now than we ever had when Joe was here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, and you could tell that with, with Cincinnati too, like, Yes, Joe would just love and haven't.
[SPEAKER_04]: March, shave.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's in our chase was or always open.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because it's good.
[SPEAKER_04]: The,
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I, it does.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's starting to feel the Josh's raven season.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's starting to feel like the world's season.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's starting to feel just like the Oriental season.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I expectations are the moon, a couple of injuries in Drew's power on more than a couple.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he players.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then all of a sudden, I think the Ravens are still really good, but it's going to be, by the time they get good, it's going to be like week 10 and that kind of time.
[SPEAKER_04]: What was that?
[SPEAKER_04]: You were either running at a time here.
[SPEAKER_04]: The only good thing about the Ravens so far is, you know, they've only played one divisional game.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think there's an opportunity to gain some ground there, but this is the running out of time quickly and it's still October.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and that's the concern is, as bad as our division is, can we go on a run to win the division or at least begin with a wild card?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it might be easier to get the division.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, probably so.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wait, this is how then, but speaking of Orioles, couple thoughts, couple thoughts here.
[SPEAKER_04]: The, I was looking, I just pulled up a kind of post-mortem thinking about kind of the Orioles and
[SPEAKER_04]: What happened?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just an interesting stats when you look at like player stats and team stats.
[SPEAKER_04]: In terms of player stats, one of the things that stuck out to me, Josh, is we only had two players play more than 92 games.
[SPEAKER_04]: Two players play more than 92 games.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just threw up a bunch of other teams.
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought it was just some curious compared to other teams.
[SPEAKER_04]: The early for example, had 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 players.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, 2, 5, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 guys play over 92 games.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we had two.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who is the two?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Gunnar Henderson.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And...
[SPEAKER_04]: our other foundational piece in that middle infield.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, see, is it, all right, it is Jackson, how old I?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I didn't take nine games.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I didn't think he'd get there because of the splits with Brandon hide, but I guess that was, they got rid of hide early enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was more last year too, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, Gunner and Jackson, and then the next was with 92 games, was caught in Calzard.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, that's ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, back to the same way, like you just look at, at that's,
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, holiday had 586, gunner had 577.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the next high sky was Ryan Mountcast, so with 332 at bats.
[SPEAKER_04]: So only two guys had more than 3302 at bats, which is just wild.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's hard to win when you don't have good players playing a lot of games, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So that means a lot of other guys are getting these at bats.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's kind of was wild to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I agree, but it also makes a lot of sense on why on paper the team looks good, but on the field they're not, it's because they're not, we're not playing.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have the full team playing at many points this season.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the other wild thing, two other wild things, you just, you look at the home run totals and I just think this team is young and it just seemed like we could build on the
[SPEAKER_04]: 20 plus home run guys that we should have two or three, 30 plus home run guys, the leader in home run, 17, what are we talking about here?
[SPEAKER_04]: 17, yeah, that's ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and we had three guys, a 17, Gunner and Jackson, and then Jordan and just kind of half the games as Gunner and Jackson, Jordan had 17, so I mean, there's a potential there if Jordan can ever play a full season.
[SPEAKER_04]: and Kobe Mayo had 11 and just, you know, his 80, 80 games.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's encouraging, I guess, but, so I think there is a potential there, but the end result this year, and that's the other stat, and this is related, RBI.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we've seen that problem with, or with RBI, we saw the problem of how bad we were with runners in scoring position in the risk this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And usually a team has, you know, guy in the hundreds, a couple guys in the 80s or
[SPEAKER_04]: Our highest guy was Gunner at 68.
[SPEAKER_04]: How does Gunner batting, you know, Ben, second, third?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, how does he end up with just 68 RBI and playing most of the season?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, all day, 55, 55, it's low, but it makes sense because he's batting leaders.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's been leading off.
[SPEAKER_01]: So no, it makes no sense, especially with a guy like Jackson Howard, who is getting on base ahead of you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so that's, and that, I mean, the ultimate is you look at team stats, I mean, this is where it kind of gets you in terms of run scored this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: We were 24th in baseball and run scored.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's hard to win.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not breaking news here.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if you look at the playoff teams, they're all top 10 and run scored.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is what 24th.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is why I want to talk about next season, not this season, because this is all said.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and the pitching tells us the same story because we might say, oh, Trevor Rodgers, we're so good and we're starting pitching with so good.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you look at just kind of runs given up in ERA, 26 in baseball in terms of team ERA last year.
[SPEAKER_04]: a lot went wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know the injuries and stuff, but also the players who are on the field just need to play a better and this team needs to get better.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we have our, my glass has work cut out from this off season.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now all the rumors just see this year so far we haven't had that free agency hasn't opened up and doesn't open up until the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the real series.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which means all the talk is managerial candidates.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think the or else are moving on from Tony, Massanelli, Massanello, that I will never have to think of that name again.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, mentally no, I think it's a, I do believe Michael lies when Michael lies says that mentally no is in the running for the position.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think he will be interviewed.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he will be considered.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's kind of like you know what you get with my glass.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think my glass would be okay going back to Tony.
[SPEAKER_04]: I really think he would be okay, but if he sees an opportunity to upgrade, I think it'll upgrade.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think it has more to do with what are the options my glass feels he has who would want that manager position.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if he can get someone better, he will.
[SPEAKER_04]: If he can't, he'll settle for 20 minutes on you.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's kind of where I'm at with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and the rumors are that the Orioles are actually interviewing people, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I haven't heard any interviews happening yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it just a whole lot of expected the interview?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's expected the interview, but it's not... There's only been one expected interview, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Our po-holse.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, which is very successful.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, um... No, hold on, the Orioles have interviewed Yankee's third base coach and former Met's manager Luis Róholse, Róhaz.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they have done one interview, and then yeah, I've seen Ryan Flirties expected to be in the mix.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pullhouse is expected to interview.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, three weeks ago, two weeks ago, we saw pullhouse expected to be the Angel's manager.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So is this just leveraged from pullhouse's team trying to work out that deal with the angels?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this team is really such a strategic to me, Josh, just because... I don't understand the attraction of pullhouse tutorials.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, before we get there, Mike Elias and the front office, they're so tight-lipped.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not like them to leak this story.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it feels very much to me that this would be more likely coming from Albert Pohel's team than from the Ordels team, just because of Ordels.
[SPEAKER_04]: Unless Ordels are trying to see how people were responding react to having a Hall of Fame player but not experienced manager manage the team.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he did manage the Dominican League or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got one step above my prediction of Adam Jones.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he does have a little bit of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's expected to manage again.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think this in the next Robby Spoklassic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is like what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, just a week ago where they were saying he's closing in on the deal with the angels.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he has an interview.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just expected it himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it does.
[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds more like it's pull host's team kind of telling trying to set the Angels look.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can sign us now.
[SPEAKER_01]: You should sign us now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give us some money now because look at all these other openings.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't sign this now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go interview with the Orioles.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I might try that too.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll interview with the Orioles.
[SPEAKER_01]: When, when, uh, yeah, you, you haven't done a job in a view on a while.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've done a couple recently.
[SPEAKER_04]: How'd that go?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, well, uh, did we talk on here about the Orioles asking the interview me?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but I never heard an update.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I haven't either.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really, I did the interview, the interview, the interview, yeah, I did the interview, the interview went really well.
[SPEAKER_01]: They said, hey, we'll get back to you next week.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's been two weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then so I'm not I'm guessing that I'm not in the running on that or there's something else going on in that warehouse and they can never make a decision or I'm up for manager.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, perhaps it's probably me or pull holes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, perhaps they want to make the manager's decision first and then get the manager's thoughts on bringing you in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it may be so, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I judge, how would you feel about a bringing Matt mentally no back?
[SPEAKER_04]: Would you manage a Tony?
[SPEAKER_04]: Would you be opposed to that idea?
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't seen what you saw this time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am opposed to bringing him back.
[SPEAKER_01]: because I don't know if he earned that job and I don't see, we saw changes.
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw definite changes on how the bullpen was used and how the lineups were construct.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the record was better.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't put the right, yeah, and the record was better.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't put that on him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think health had a lot to do with that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we got some pictures back.
[SPEAKER_01]: And just because Brandon Hide always irritated me because of how he managed pictures, he pulled him all too early because he managed to line up with his left right construction.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't, that does not, just because Tony didn't do that does not mean that I want Tony as the manager.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see enough from him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, his post came interviews with the worst that an embarrassment kind of entertaining Yes, but they're not entertaining like book show Walter was entertaining and I would learn something Yeah, don't don't know what he's gonna say and then it's like It's embarrassing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's gonna see some awkward.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, gonna call run points Call runs points.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm opposed, but I can't have a, I don't have a great argument over why, except I don't think he deserves the position.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's interesting, too, in terms of, like this might be situation where sometimes it can be good to bring some outside, something from the outside into this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Tony was brought up here and kind of brought through the system.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so the idea of having something from the outside who has the men's clothes,
[SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of appealing to me, kind of fresh eyes and situation, along with keeping Buck Britain and keeping a good team around and who's been here, I kind of like the idea of bringing it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, in my view, I want someone that can fire up this team and take them out, this group of great players and make them this family, that fights on the field.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do not believe the pull host things as we've been talking about, also because when
[SPEAKER_01]: It mentions like reasons why and there's no real reasons why they just say hey pool host is available there's young talent and Baltimore and then here's the here's the connection
[SPEAKER_01]: uh, because of St.
[SPEAKER_01]: Louis connections, because Puhos played in St.
[SPEAKER_01]: Louis, where Michael Ice was a scout during Puhos' playing days, and Puhos is still close to Cardinals teammate Matt Halliday, father of Jackson Halliday.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a stretch to try to be like because of these points is why the Orioles are going to interview you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's another reason for Aber Puhos.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty sure I got this right based on John Miller.
[SPEAKER_04]: the that the oil's greatest manager of all time grew up in St.
[SPEAKER_04]: Louis, or a weaver.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then managerials and was the most successful manager of the history of the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: We still have to put Louis time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, also the poor host did manage in Dominican league.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we did just invest a whole bunch of money into that Dominican facility last year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we do have some young Dominican players who have just come up or will continue to come up in the next
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, and Albert Puhos' first name, Albert, starts with an A. So when we line up alphabetically, he'll be at the front of the line.
[SPEAKER_04]: True, true.
[SPEAKER_04]: Eddie is, um...
[SPEAKER_04]: People love a bilingual manager and that's almost becoming a necessity.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think mandalino is bilingual.
[SPEAKER_04]: So he can barely speak English.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's that advantage of being bilingual, that alcohol is going from as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what you've been enamored with.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I like Albert Poohos.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think there's any attraction to bring him to Baltimore.
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't seem like a Michael Ayes type of decision.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would be really surprised.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't it doesn't it I would even be surprised with the interview to be honest doesn't seem like a great D right yeah the Rohos Lewis Rohos from the Yankees That's the type of guy you would expect For interviews and and possible offers with Michael Lies Yeah, I don't know about manager.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know much about Rohas to be honest
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, he's 44.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was the Yankees League coach for the last four seasons, uh, began his coaching career with the net, nuts Dominican League and then he joined the Met after that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so he's been again, you've got that bilingual probably because of his coach here and the Dominican League.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, EBR, Big League staff met quality control, coach in 2019, and Rollhoffs was then upgraded to the top job in 2020 for the match.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was not successful in as being the top guy for the match.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is correct.
[SPEAKER_04]: But maybe he learned from his mistakes.
[SPEAKER_01]: No one's really been good, successful at the match.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even Buckshow Waterfield at the match.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if we're going to take a failed medscoach, I'd rather have book show water.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me do any time because no matter how bad the team is, the post games will be great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't think it's happening, but as Buck showed an interest, you know, getting back into managing, does he want to do it managing?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, he interviewed for some jobs last season.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it did.
[SPEAKER_04]: It seems like a bad fit with Michael I, so I don't think that was wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think with Michael I was, with him and Dan do kept butted heads.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the only way he and Michael I was would get along is you stay up in the warehouse and let me run this team.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Michael I was just not going to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, no, Michael I once too much control, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't see that working out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, so maybe there's an advantage of like I was thinking in my head for a manager thought it was I was thinking like let's bring in a established guy with a lot of heads with a lot of.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but maybe Michael I was thinking, let me bring in a young player, I mean a young manager who has less experience, maybe has failure, so I can control him better.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which, which worked so well for Brennan hide.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it doesn't.
[SPEAKER_04]: It did, it did work well Josh, until it didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that had nothing to do with their relationship.
[SPEAKER_01]: That had to do with young and upcoming players.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you can say that by everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, again, we can go back to my original manager discussion a few weeks ago, where I said, the manager doesn't do much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give me Adam Jones.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, if what would a rather have, book show Walter,
[SPEAKER_04]: for, you know, Cal Tucker, give me the player over the manager all day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 100%.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have we talked since they did the Orioles and the season press conference?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where they talked about his promotion from GM to President and a baseball or whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think we talked about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he talked about his, that he was promoted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was promoted and he, real cage, always, my kind of likes is always cagey and weird and tough.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe there's no position, but maybe there's not no position.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is an open position for general manager.
[SPEAKER_01]: But only if I find the right guy I want and I might not even look this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I might look next year.
[SPEAKER_04]: He might do the same thing with manager.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I'll just leave the manager position open, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: What if Michael eyes is just the manager?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just open going into the season.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and he just says, okay, if I don't do it until we find it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, except that was going the opposite way.
[SPEAKER_01]: What if trying to get him, what if trying to get him into this front office position instead of general manager position is to try to get his hands off the actual club.
[SPEAKER_01]: We like you structure the club.
[SPEAKER_01]: You do all the business stuff to get us lined up and leave the manager alone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's get you further away from the manager.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, like who, who, that because make a live one starter, who wants to because management because uh, ownership.
[SPEAKER_01]: ownership.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was an ownership move.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he tried to say, oh, yeah, it wasn't, we didn't mean it to be quiet, but we didn't want to upstage to play on the field at the beginning of the season.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then the team was so bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: We couldn't announce it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we just hit it and saw crap.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: No one's up.
[SPEAKER_04]: No one's getting up stage.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's that much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it should be interesting what happens there.
[SPEAKER_04]: What about Sigma Della?
[SPEAKER_04]: Does Eddie talk about his like seemed like he could take that role or like, I don't know how he fits into this thing too because he's just, I always just view him as my class kind of right hand man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's kind of like always been behind the scenes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like we've never, like the way that you're low is Brady Anderson.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is still listed as the assistant GM of the Baltimore Orioles.
[SPEAKER_01]: How can you be the assistant GM if you don't have a GM?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, assistant to what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: an empty office.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't there's a lot of e-mails he says like it I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I, I, as much praise as Sigma Dell was given for coming to this team and continue to praise and people praise him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He never speaks.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, maybe one interview a year.
[SPEAKER_01]: and it's only in the house interview.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know much about the guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Josh, you, but he worked for NASA.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's just an holiday going to the moon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody worked for NASA.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because, yeah, well guess what?
[SPEAKER_01]: We hired a guy from NASA and lived off the network.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're sputtering.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I got a poll.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll power a 13 mission now and let's fix all the issues before we crash.
[SPEAKER_04]: Was that my dials?
[SPEAKER_04]: Was that his big contribution to the team to come with the lift off race?
[SPEAKER_04]: The lift off metaphor.
[SPEAKER_04]: Was that his idea?
[SPEAKER_01]: I do like the idea of the Orioles leaning into the lift off metaphor and doing like all of their, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: all of their promotional materials and like their like videos and line-ups and everything is like in astronaut uniforms like slow motion walking in astronaut uniforms.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you lean into that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: Lift off 2.0.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But streaking of, of, of, you know, postseason conferences.
[SPEAKER_04]: Michael Lies, I, and he, I guess he does it all the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: It just seemed to me it was pretty clear that he was going to say, well, and, and he, he only says this by the way.
[SPEAKER_04]: He said that they're going to, I like the first part, hate the second part.
[SPEAKER_04]: He says they're going to, um, build their team this offseason in a way that, to contend.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that even the national media that everyone will think.
[SPEAKER_04]: that we are, and I'm waiting for it, that we are real serious contenders, isn't it, that we can contend for the ALEs?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that we are competitive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're stupid.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, how about, just say real series, do you want to say real series?
[SPEAKER_01]: No one cares, everyone knows, like, we see stupid coaches all the time say, my team's going to the Super Bowl, and they go O and 15, O and 16, 18, whatever it is now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We see people all the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and it's because that honestly, I think his goal is just to stay competitive and try to win the at least and then hold the dice because he thinks the playoff is just a crap shoot anyway.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, so if I can just get in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and if you stay competitive, if you're always fighting for that postseason, then you always have a job.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't think the Dodgers, I haven't heard Robert's talk about for the Dave Roberts for the Dodgers talk about, but his team's goal is expectations, but I doubt he says our goal this year is the win the N, N, N, N, and a West.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that team,
[SPEAKER_04]: is built for the world series to win the road series.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why we can't build to win the road series according to Dodger blue dot com preseason Dave Roberts primary goal for the Dodgers in 2025 is to win the world series.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I bet the GM said likewise.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't say because that's the point of playing the game.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the one in the world series.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You think John Harble and Michael Ice just hang out.
[SPEAKER_01]: They both kind of be like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll stay competitive and see what happens.
[SPEAKER_04]: That guy is just John Harble.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't fire him midseason though, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and we'll get to the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you can't fire him.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't fire him simply because Lamar is
[SPEAKER_01]: boat on quote hurt.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if an excuse.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, but, yes, I agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm saying, even if Lamar was playing, I don't think you'd fire him at season.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there was a little personal stuff going on there, too, I think.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, uh, but even at like even if Lamar.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, don't ever go back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don Harbor will not be fired this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but even Lamar doesn't come back.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and the Ravens, if the Ravens don't make the playoffs, Harbaugh's done no matter what.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, he is Josh.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's 100% done if they don't make the playoffs.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's been on the hot seat too many times.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's at an amazing round.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think he's down if they don't make the playoffs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ah, no matter the injuries.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, here's the problem.
[SPEAKER_04]: He said more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: And here's if I were Steve Bashadi.
[SPEAKER_01]: And here's what I would do is I would be like, sit back and be like, well, what are the other candidates?
[SPEAKER_01]: So if I let John Harbong go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who was out there that I can put in this slot?
[SPEAKER_01]: And are they better than given John Harbour another chance?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's where you end up riding with John Harbour a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're like, well, I'm in the market along great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lamar will come back next season.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just ride with John versus look at our defense, where we said, hey, let's try this act or let's give a new guy a chance.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's been a horrible mistake.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that should be fired this week.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, why I think it should be fired two weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, this is the buy week.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is when you would do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But of course, I think he would have done it last earlier this week.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if they do fire time hardball 20 mentally, no, it could be available.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Brandon hides available now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right now, it's available now.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can make that move real quick.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, Adam Jones, he seems to like the Ravens.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's true, uh, bring back a former player for the Ravens.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you like the, uh, do you like the photos of the L.A.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rams playing in Camden yards?
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't seen any videos or the practice.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the, the players are all, I heard the practice in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's been some fun videos of the players all coming out of the clubhouse in the locker room, like they're using the Orioles locker room and coming out and like just coming out of the dugout and taking fake swings for the fans and stuff before they go out into the outfield to, uh, practice.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm surprised, John Angelos didn't have concerts scheduled.
[SPEAKER_01]: They was open for them to, well, John Angelos has gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some more concerts.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're still concerts, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure the concerts scheduled still pretty full, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or no, they're the concerts.
[SPEAKER_04]: Go away when John left.
[SPEAKER_01]: They won away.
[SPEAKER_04]: They were still a concert, can we?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: No more concerts.
[SPEAKER_01]: They do the concerts back, like the pre-game concerts, like the fly and the... But in the Aussies, and they're not doing concerts in there?
[SPEAKER_01]: They've only done like three or four.
[SPEAKER_01]: They only do like one a year and this season they can't do it because they're upgrade and all those upgrades to the stadium with the new video board, the new sound system, the new premium seed and the new standing room beneath the scoreboard.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing all those upgrades so there's nothing going on.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was listening to, oh, man, who someone was interviewed on the Tony court coin as a show and she wrote a book, I need to look at this, called like, if I was commissioner, how I would have to fix baseball or something, something like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: If I was commissioner, how would I fix baseball or something?
[SPEAKER_04]: And her lead argument was, something like, make me commissioner, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jane Levy, Jane Levy, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there were several things, but she led with,
[SPEAKER_04]: attendance.
[SPEAKER_04]: And oh, how it's my first thing, too, how organizations are losing their minds because everyone keeps on raising prices when they should be reducing if not giving away free tickets to kids instead.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she uses a Savannah bananas example, too, as they're not thinking at all about the fans in terms of, that's why we're coming to games.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was true.
[SPEAKER_01]: And
[SPEAKER_04]: The more I think about the Oreos and the prices, then I could just...
[SPEAKER_04]: I just, just from a business perspective and a rehashing this, I just, I need to see someone, I need a PowerPoint, Canva presentation on the economics of raising ticket prices.
[SPEAKER_04]: And how, I mean, if you're gonna tell me, somehow, raising ticket prices will bring in more money that you can give to Cal Tucker.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I can get there with you, I think, but someone needs to break down economics on how raising ticket prices, it doesn't.
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't.
[SPEAKER_04]: It means more money for the team.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't, and I know it doesn't because I talked to the CFL guy and he never at one point brought up more income.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even think there's going to make more income as a team by doing this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're gonna bring in less money this way.
[SPEAKER_04]: At the wrong side.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it makes no sense at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the other thing I would do as commissioner, I would push for lower ticket prices.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can have your premium seeding and sell that, whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: But most seeding, lower price.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would push to make all stadium smaller.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so there's more demand and she said every kid under I feel like 10 or 11.
[SPEAKER_04]: She said every kid in 10 or 11 should get in free Yeah, and if you bring a kid in your arch you can do that and they have that deal already They'll do well.
[SPEAKER_01]: It should be I would do twofold.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would be every kid under 12 free Because trying to grow a game with young people too and if you're bringing a kid you get the parents get their tickets for like 25 bucks max Yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: Like make it and I would do family packs of here six tickets for a hundred bucks or even over 50 bucks.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, lean into at a drink and a hot dog with it and then you sold me which you should never see empty seats in a stadium.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're seeing empty seats in a stadium, your prices are too much.
[SPEAKER_01]: You want every seat filled because they're going to buy a hot dog.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to buy a drink.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to buy an oil shirt.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to watch the oil scale on the TV.
[SPEAKER_01]: The dad's going to buy $20 beer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're going to fall in love with the team, but if you have empty seats, that's not getting you any money.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: The Savannah Menas get that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm interested to watch the bananas as they've expanded in the past couple weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure you saw how they've expanded.
[SPEAKER_01]: And everyone's all over exactly the kids are where they now have six teams in a banana league.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it looks like the bananas are playing games in major league stadiums, but there's plenty of games without the bananas in it that are in minor league stadiums.
[SPEAKER_04]: Someone's coming to I saw Chesapeake who's the banana's going to Chesapeake?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's the firefighters I think and the one of the new ones, so it's now the firefighters, the tailgators, the low cocoa nuts and the clowns.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the clowns is a really cool backstory, how that how they are kind of revitalized in that old franchise.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know that story.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is an old Negro League team that played.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they were basically, if you look at the videos of them, like people went and saw them because they were fun and goofy and fought around on the field while also playing baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very similar to the bananas.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a partnership kind of to bring that back.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really curious.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's playing like 180 games between the six teams.
[SPEAKER_01]: So and then they've got a tournament up in Savannah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm interested to see how that goes because suddenly you're not.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a one team that's in your town once a year.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a bigger deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully it works for them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I do it, and I hope if I was the Orioles, and if I was any major league team, I would call management of Semana Penalinsa, hey, I'm like,
[SPEAKER_04]: what can we learn from you to great people in our stadiums exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the point I was making a few weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I found out last night, I found out that one of the guys on the party animals, who is one of the teams in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: For the, he's played for the party animals for the past two or three years, but prior to that, he was my center of field or on my self-ball team for a couple of years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I found, yes, guy named Tanner and he's a great ball player.
[SPEAKER_01]: When that was the softball picture, it was amazing because I could always count on let him hit the ball, a 10-year-old catch-in and he's now playing on there and I've found out last night that Owen comments on his videos all the time as I remember watching you play softball with my dad.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think yeah, I think I think the other thing is Major's baseball looks at the bananas as not a competitor yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's interesting to see the bananas don't want any investment from major league baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you've gone out as you're playing more games with more teams.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's independent ball, but there's going to be this point where baseball major league baseball could even block them out and close them out and be like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't use our stadiums anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or you can't use our affiliates anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: If they see them as a competitor,
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to block you from televised and some of your stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're like yeah, we've got well well ESPN doesn't have the base and I'll be deal anymore So that's true, but but majorly baseball is the big guy here who can push them out and or they could embrace them
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because it sounds insane to push them up because they're probably doing more to get young people interested in baseball I think the majors are doing I think so, but I look at majorly baseball and I see so many things to bananas are doing right That majorly baseball should be doing and none of the stupid stuff on the field.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't think there should go out If you don't think you want to you can't let the driver ride it on stilts No, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe more dancing coming out of the dugout, that could be fun, or especially like the bullpen, maybe more bullpen entrances, but no, I don't care about any of that stuff the bananas do, but the way they attract and the way they put fans first and focus on kids, have Jackson holiday and Gunner Henderson go out and sign autographs during the rain delay.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, you'll never see that with Major League Baseball, but if Major League Baseball wouldn't brace that, I won't one team.
[SPEAKER_04]: You might see that on a fan appreciation at the last week of the season.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but here's what I'd like to see.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the Orioles are primed for this because they're a young team and young team.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to get, not only, you gotta get your entire organization from the president all the way down to the players to understand, hey, we're gonna prioritize fans.
[SPEAKER_01]: And one organization could do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: One organization could be the team that prioritizes fans that makes their tickets cheap, that has their players purposely go out and interact with the kids more.
[SPEAKER_01]: During games, not just this like winter tailgate for six days, but every game, every home game make it feel like a party for kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: One major league team could do that and they could get a whole lot of attention just like the bananas do.
[SPEAKER_04]: without doing the party tricks on the field is the winter tailgate is that coming back as the uh... the caravan or something yeah when i do the fan fest anymore but i don't know yeah i mean don't i'm really interested in the topic yeah the other stuff i care i care about but less i'm really just care about ticket prices and i'm really interested to see
[SPEAKER_04]: What happens in terms of attendance with Oral's a share?
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just going to fast into saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, they, they will never release true numbers about their season tickets, but I guarantee their season ticket holders are employed in this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and I mean, there's, if you just look at tennis numbers, it's going to show up, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we'll see what kind of deals they're under in the season, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You and I, we've talked about, well, I've pushed to go back for open and day.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we haven't talked about what series to go home with.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about what series to go see on the road.
[SPEAKER_04]: Diego travel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because why go back to Camden yards when they're going to treat their fans like this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it just, yeah, well, maybe this prevent a lot of the Yankee fans taking the subway down to go to coming yards because they're taking some.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's all, no, you're making them a stake.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's always been the argument is, oh, we increased it when the Yankees and Red Sox are in town to make money off those New Yorkers and screw your locals at the same time.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I, I noticed this because I was getting hawks tickets, Atlanta Hawks, in order to take a say of this, that they're like, I do like a promotion where like, if your, if my kid reads a book, you get a free ticket to a hawks game, and they said, like, have to be a local purchasher only, like, only local people out for this promotion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they might do that for the kids to hear free, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's just curious.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure that local only.
[SPEAKER_04]: So how, I know, I guess you can verify.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know football teams try to do that all the time for playoff games where they'll try to be like, oh, well, it's only you your zip code needs to be within here or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can we get out of here?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think we've covered enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, we'll get into, yeah, once the real series ends, once that hopefully the Blue Jay's youth lose and the brewers come back and meet the Dodgers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're just isn't on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's keep cheering on the Mariners, hopefully they can pull this out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we get a break this weekend from the Ravens, I think all Ravencans deserve a break this week.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm watching that thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, boys and girls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know we're closing, but have you checked out my new movie podcast?
[SPEAKER_04]: I have not, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he picks out a movie each week that I have never seen me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you give a heads off the listeners what you're watching so they can watch it too?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'm moving from the 1940s where
[SPEAKER_01]: I was never watched it, but I know there's enough of the context that I can listen to the discussion about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how I feel about it, is it's movies and I say all the time, I would never watch these movies, but their old movies have heard of that.
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