[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome back to another episode of the street alpha podcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm your host Tux and today we got my guy Jamie all the way from the UK.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go bro.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't even know you were going to be out here.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was an FL2K this past weekend.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which was a fantastic event.
[SPEAKER_04]: Love that event and I ended up walking down the staging lanes and I saw you there And I was like I had no idea you were even still here You know, it's quite random and a lot of people said the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just that I think when I see me all the way from England In a place that I shouldn't be a surprise to everyone, but you know, it was a welcome surprise to see you because we spent quite a bit of time together It was too care.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was last year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we were talking for that play
[SPEAKER_04]: quite a while, actually, for a while.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes this time too, same thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: 100% good people with it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, it's a community case.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I reached out to you, obviously.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I didn't want to bother you because I'm, like, I know you do features.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I was like, I didn't want to just like, ensued on what you had going on.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I figured, you know what?
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to bother asking him about.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, you know what, worth a shot.
[SPEAKER_01]: But when I saw the message come through, I was like, hell yeah, listen, we've been very busy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, when street out for contact, you're broke, you got to make that time.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So here we are.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, so I appreciate you for doing this and also, you know, for the Airbnb, we're in the Airbnb right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: For where you're staying at.
[SPEAKER_04]: Normally, you guys see us in garages and so on, but I think as of last episode, we were in the tower.
[SPEAKER_04]: I felt okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, honestly, you guys don't really care about location too much anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, there's a lot to unpack with, you know, what you do and who you are and also about the UK car scene and car culture as a whole.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So, I would say you've been doing this for about, I don't know, every seven, eight years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, about seven and a half years, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, what even made you want to get into YouTube, like, where you were mechanic before that, like, what was that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I was actually a mechanic, but I hate you being mechanic.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I used to work for London fire brigade, figure fire engines.
[SPEAKER_01]: And although I wasn't at that company when I first started, I'd pretty much been on the tools for 16 years at the time when I started.
[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe not 16 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a slight crossover period, but I'd been on the tools for a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing that got me started with YouTube is basically, so I used to follow a YouTube I called Living Life Fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: And at the time, I want to say he had about 30,000 subscribers.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't watch a lot of YouTube because seven and a half years ago,
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, my social media has grown quick, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So the way we consume it now, potentially weren't the way we were consuming it back then.
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely wasn't the way I was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Love cars, always love cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a stumbled across this guy, started watching his content for it was really cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: He done features on cars and one day I bumped into him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was at AMG Owners Meet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was New Year's Eve or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say these bends like a dealership.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, hey, I've got all the say these A-45.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever featured one?
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, no, I think I had like a tuning box on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, let's get it done.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he done one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved the process.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was cool seeing what goes on behind the scenes, where it takes to make a video like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, you're around.
[SPEAKER_01]: petrol head to you when you're driving your car and yeah I love it and basically when it comes to the end of the video put it out your first video you're always quite nervous to see how people react to you as a person because you don't know who's going to be watching right and so like you're quite worried and I'm sure there was some negative comments but I saw a lot of positive comments so I was actually quite happy with that and I remember speaking to guy his name's Ricky from Living Life Fast after and just in part in he said something
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: I should, like you know what I mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was just a passing comment that you probably say to anyone who like, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I picked up a camera, I had no clue how to edit how to film and through trial and error, made my first video.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, through the creation of that video, putting it out, seeing everyone's kind of thoughts in it, I just love the process.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it kind of just, it's spiral from it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you, so one of the things that, you know, when you pick up a camera and you start filming, do you ever feel like you're just talking to nobody?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's always awkward and uncomfortable when you're just like recording and even in public places too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you still have that feeling like all these years later?
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know what the worst one is, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to try and not think about what you're doing too much, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I get it now and again, so I'll have to come right out here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: and then I'll look directly into the lens.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it messes me up, it's like, it's looking directly in someone's eyes.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you speak someone usually, like, you've never been kind of like, so that kind of messes me up, but, now, I'm cool with it now at first, obviously it's an adjustment, like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: But because you have generally editorial control, it's like, look, if I mess up, no one's ever gonna see it, like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was one of those ones, but when there's people around, even now,
[SPEAKER_01]: because you know, like, especially when people know who I am now, I'm blessed to have quite a big fan base now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not fan base viewer base, you see.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when I pick up that camera and I start talking to it, it's almost like people stop and like, oh my god, he's doing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So then it's, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's more pressure.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you think about what you do in your mess up, but it's part and parcel of what you do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you've gotten way more comfortable, of course.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now you're also like, you started going into people's cars and doing that kind of content.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm sure there's a lot more to even think about, not just filming yourself, but you're driving somebody else's cars sometimes, and it can be kind of sketchy, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I want to talk about some of the earlier cars that you've had.
[SPEAKER_04]: So there's this, what is it?
[SPEAKER_04]: A Ford S-Sport is on my phone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ford S-Sport, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's some of my first car.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, is it the same as a US?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, no, so this is the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we use the same name.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the comments will tell us, but I want to say it's very similar.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's essentially like a two-door coupe kind of Ford.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that kind of what you guys got?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think there's like a four door.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sport E1 was R.S.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't really too sporty.
[SPEAKER_04]: I could be wrong, but for an escort, I remember it was not sport.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So talking about sport, even when I got it when I was 19, it was a fairly old car.
[SPEAKER_01]: And sporty back then is different to sporty now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say I had 140 BHP.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a 1.6 turbo engine in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was my first car, but even for a first car, it's quite a, it's like, I remember a lot of people like, wow, I can't believe you got that for your first car.
[SPEAKER_01]: If that makes sense, what were you saying?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was 19.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I actually,
[SPEAKER_01]: So I used to ride bikes, like scooters, moped, and then I moved on to gear to kind of two stroke one, two, five, and things like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I actually got a ban, like a driving ban in the UK on my bike, and I was off the road for like 16 months.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I couldn't, yeah, I was a bad ban.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I used to ride with a load of people and basically,
[SPEAKER_01]: in a period where I was in a band, they all moved on to cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: So by the time I was out, so we can drive from 17 in the UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was in a band that period.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, by the time I was ready to get my license, my driving license, everyone moved on to cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, all right, cool, I need to make a bit of an impact, seem what I could do.
[SPEAKER_01]: But also I mean, sure, it's coming off a band for your first car and just getting your license, insurance is crazy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's actually quite a funny story with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I won't go too too much into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: In a UK, and probably all around the world, you've all we've got friends that can make things happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: They can make things happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whether it's above board or below board, like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, against the law or not so.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I've got a friend who basically said to me, he can get any car I want in short for 500 pounds, basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was looking at like $5,000 to get the car in short.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, I was like, this is, this is to dream.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me get that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean 500 pounds now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can get any car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want and hot on my kind of favorite cars was a escort artist Herbert.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I grabbed the car and Grab the insurance and I want to say about two months later or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: The insurance was avoided because it was all like it was the job that makes sense So I was left with a car that I could barely afford to run but it's part of the game
[SPEAKER_01]: It was all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a bit of a money on this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Most people probably wondering why I even brought that up, but that was one of your first cars, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, yes, literally.
[SPEAKER_04]: So did that inspire any of the other future bills that you had or was just a car you had to get into because you needed something or All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you know what happened, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So after that car, I actually swapped that car with someone else for a Pujo 205 GTI.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you get them here in a UK?
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good leap.
[SPEAKER_01]: So 205 GTI.
[SPEAKER_01]: No?
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you, is Puzzle a big thing I, how do you say it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Puzzle or Puzzle?
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you spell it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Puzzle?
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to catch you out of the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's something like PE, GO-U-T, or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's Puzzle, GO-T, PE-U-G-O-E-A-T, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I am familiar with the brand it's like a like a yeah, I just don't know I never knew how to say that Yeah, yeah, yeah, you say per zone per zone It's French brand French cars are terrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're known for just fooling apart But basically I swapped it for that that had a mad engine swap.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was modified that card in last long at all because it just like self destructed itself
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was so annoyed with modified cars after my first two modern bike cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: I went and bought a diesel.
[SPEAKER_01]: I bought a diesel Mini of all of all things.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like a 2,000 and 3 that kind of shape.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was popular 1.4 diesel broke.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had no power at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had like 80 BHP, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: It was terrible but I felt nice because I finally was out of
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have to spend a lot on the car just to keep it running, it just ran itself like pretty much so yeah there was it there was a bit of a a gap I kind of before I like got into my YouTube I was always dipping my toe in the car scene and then back up because it got expensive like you know I mean I was just an average dude earning an average wage you know what I mean like you blow up an engine bro, it's game over like they don't rebuild like you know I mean that's like that's me out like so it's always been a case of dipping in dipping out so I've had some cool cars like leading up to the point where I actually started YouTube
[SPEAKER_01]: uh, but nothing mega mega.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a great sense, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's cool because, um, you know, you were kind of in and out of the scene, but you always came back to it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, hundreds of them.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now I'm sure like the way that you buy cars now, it's probably more of like an appreciation thing like, dammit, you know, I, what cars in the past when I didn't have it like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now I'm able to buy them.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've done like.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, a lot of people in the UK, a lot of people in the UK but some of my followers know that, but I don't, I come from humble beginnings, like, you know, like a lot of us, like, for these things that I have now, and I'm lucky enough to do, even being sat here bro in a state, talking to you, is mad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, before I started YouTube, I could never imagine this kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we're around.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're hoping there's longer than me.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm blessed, you're not I'm saying so I appreciate everything and yeah, it still comes as a massive surprise when like
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess what people consider looks normal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now when I buy these lavish calls or do crazy stuff, you're still to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, I can't even believe I'm doing this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's beautiful to see a journey though, because like, you can tell when somebody's first started in the YouTube if you go back to the oldest videos, to now like, you know, people would become more polished and they're more, you know, professional and so on on camera, but it just seems like you kept, you stay at your roots and it seems like a lot of your, your fan base or viewers see that.
[SPEAKER_04]: They say you're a judge or a humble person
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what it's like, as I say, like, I was on the tools for those 16 years, the camaraderie with everyone else in the workshop, being happy with like who I was as a person.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't 20, I was 29, when I first started YouTube.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I had already, I knew who I was, you know, when you, like, you've kind of learned yourself.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So just by me picking up a camera now and getting some notoriety, I'm not the kind of, I know some people do.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But for me, I'm just the same person who
[SPEAKER_01]: is doing cool stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the same person.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to be anyone who I'm not, and I think that might translate in videos.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's why people watch my stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you find that later with YouTubers, a lot of them who were in the 30s, they're just comfortable with who they are.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it just comes across a lot different and more genuine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah,
[SPEAKER_04]: So, there's this thing you keep saying, break horsepower, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Ha ha, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: This is BHP.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, for people who are probably like, you know, confused, like, what is that even the horsepower, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So, what is the difference between the horsepower and BHP?
[SPEAKER_04]: How you guys calculate it?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you've got break horsepower, okay?
[SPEAKER_01]: And you've got horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: BHP is now almost, like, as a running joke, people from other countries kind of call it British horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because no one else uses it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people actually say bullshit, horse power, generating, because what essentially BHP is the bigger figure, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So what horse power generally is considered as is what the car makes at the wheel or the hub or the tire basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: what BHP is, is what the car makes at the crank, which is also what manufacturers quote.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, the reason they're able to do that is because what they do at time of building the car and working out how much power they're going to put into the car is say take that engine out of the car or they have the engine out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They put it on something called an engine diner.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that gives you the correct break horsepower figure.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know exactly how they measure it, but it's something to do with using a break of some description on the crank to basically work out how much power it generates or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'll know those lines.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry if I'm butchering it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas when you're all dyno in a car,
[SPEAKER_01]: the tie on or the hub of your cut is attached to the dyno and at that point of contact is where it's measuring the power from.
[SPEAKER_01]: So essentially what we do or what BHP figure or what a BHP figure is on a tune car running on like a hub dyno or a normal dyno would just be a dry train calculation
[SPEAKER_01]: BHP figure via drivetrain loss, essentially.
[SPEAKER_01]: So whether it's auto, whether it's a manual, whether it's a front wall drive car, and whatever might be an ad drivetrain that could potentially take away power.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, a lot of UK dinos, generally not hub diners, because hub diners do read at the hub.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way around it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have never seen a hub diner give a BHP calculation.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of, I do a thing called the calculator of truth.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I'm part of the problem with BHP, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I always like to give the bigger figure.
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, YouTube, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got to grab people's attention, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So if I can give them a BHP bigger, which looks a little bigger than the other.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean, you might click, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's kind of how it works.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, essentially,
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a calculation that can never be correct, but it's a calculation based on certain transmissions, drive trains to give you what it should be making at the crank, if that exists.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it can never be correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: It can never be correct, unless you put that engine on an engine dyno.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so a thousand horsepower cars, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's just talk, because you're not gonna, I'm a 10 horsepower is, you know, it's basically not like this, you know, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So a thousand horsepower car would be how much break horsepower BHP, roughly, roughly, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll give you, I'll give you a good example, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and also I'll give you a little bit of an example of different drive trains and potentially,
[SPEAKER_01]: What calculate or what dry training loss calculation you'd add to that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Subject.
[SPEAKER_01]: So basically, usually for a frontal drive car with a manual gearbox that wouldn't be a major amount of drive training loss loss.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you'd probably go for anywhere between 10 and 12 percent.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: A rear wheel drive car manual probably about the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: four-wheel drive car manual, or oh, you'd probably be at about 15.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people go up to 18%, so it depends.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then some people are cheeky, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can apply any drive-trained loss calculation you want and you make up a number saying, you put in a calculation or a loss.
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, it's never right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So going back to it, so I've got a four-wheel drive sequential Honda DC5 type-on.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: That made on the dyno last time we had it on a dyno, which was a hub dyno.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that car with my dry-trained loss calculation of about 15% makes 1200 BHP.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you added 15% to the... Yeah, so the calculation, the way you do it, so for instance, you'll put in 1,000 of 30 into the calculator, then you'll go divided by 0.85, and then you hit the...
[SPEAKER_04]: equals and it will give you your figure okay and that's why I call it the calculator truth so because it's always a lie you don't even so now when is there ever going to be a time where you case which is over just a horsepower rather than be a hundred percent now okay
[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty much all of my builders are probably cursing me right now because every time I'm there with my calculator truth They're like, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's made what it made at the wheels, all the hubs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you putting another bigger on today?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they all like the serious guys in the game in the UK They're all talking about wheel because it only really matters about what it's putting on right like you know I mean, but there's a big culture within the UK where we talk about the HP so I would say the less
[SPEAKER_01]: serious, but the more kind of casual car tuner tuners, car builders or enthusiasts, they always used to be HP thicker.
[SPEAKER_01]: The real guys, we'll horse power all at the house.
[SPEAKER_04]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's more, it's more just for like, I guess on a content space, it's more just because the numbers are kind of inflated.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but we call it wheely-waving, you know what I mean, we call it wheely-waving, you know, we have a little show you you find next to Rinch, like you know what I mean, there's a lot of those ones bro, like you know what I mean, we give out a bigger number, you know what I mean, stand in front of you and from here, you know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, wait, what's- I thought it was like some other time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm willing in a UK as a penis.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Just to show the people, we didn't call it an un- You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, all right.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's good to- that's not really good to know, but- Yeah, I guess- You know, you're less under every day, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So will you even got it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's pretty good to know because I've always been curious about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And a lot of people from the US who watch the videos are like, well, what does that even mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's it's it's a good, um, it's good that you bring it up because most people will click the video because that's 1200.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: Does that mean it's 2500?
[SPEAKER_04]: So it is a kind of way to take it to viewers to kind of tune in more.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Early on, you seem to bounce back and forth between BMWs, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, three, three, five, I'm not sure how many of those you've had, but... Oh, I've had quite a few BMWs, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've had, I've had, gosh, my first BMW was a free-two-five.
[SPEAKER_01]: Free-two-five, D, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a free-two-five, D, and then I got a free-firty D, and then I had an M3, and these are all in the E92 chassis.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like, probably one of my favorite chassis.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a very, very good-looking design, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, then I had the F-A-E, and then, well, so bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, I've got a BMW M-2-4-I-N-L, obviously, in series, which I have talked about earlier.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, there's something about a BMW, and I don't, I'm not like a massive BMW fanboy, but again, I'm lucky enough to hop in and out so many different cars and drive so many different cars, hundreds, literally no exaggeration, hundreds.
[SPEAKER_01]: And something about the way a BMW drives,
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got, I don't know, it's got a level of refinement.
[SPEAKER_01]: The...
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, it's like, it's kind of like, when we're talking about the sport models, it's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got a level of refinement and a good, it's such a good feel that I don't feel Audi or Mercedes being the competitors of the European market can deliver.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I always kind of go back to the, to the BMs, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I'm not a massive fanboy.
[SPEAKER_01]: As I say, I've got quite a few different brands.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm dipping it out, but it's, I must say, my X4M is my daily.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a pleasure to drive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, everything's nice to the touch.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would probably honestly say BMW is only second and only not by much to push in terms of refinement.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, is that from a driving experience?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a complete driving experience.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you feel like an Audi, because an Audi could be pretty close, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you feel like it's two, like aator's more to the luxury market?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think Audi is stuck in a weird position for me personally.
[SPEAKER_01]: design-wise, I think they're the most on-trend in terms of the design shop.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's futuristic.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks it's racy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think out of the big free, let's talk about BMW Mercedes and Audi, I think they've got a dialed in for the most sporty kind of on-trend look.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, I would probably say the materials that they use in a fit and finish the quality is probably the best, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd probably go as far as that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the drive of the Audi lets it down.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little bit numb.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never had an Audi, the drives as well as much feel as a BMW personally.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Mercedes is a weird balance.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mercedes is that luxury brand, like they actually try to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the ambient light is always manned.
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, if you're picking a girl up in one of the Mercedes, right, but a BMW is like a blend of both of them, right, but with the best drive, arguably the most boring interior, but in fact, on the G series, obviously they stepped it up, the F series, you know, an E series, very dead, but the, but the, the G series, they, they, they, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all, they're all
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how I feel about the way they did it to display on the G80s, some of the things.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just talking about the... Yeah, I think it has a lot to do with the packaging nowadays.
[SPEAKER_04]: It seems like they're starting to package up their cars a little bit differently.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I just felt like they didn't really mold it into the dash.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just kind of placed there.
[SPEAKER_01]: A bit of an obstacle kind of just to... Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's still cool because I think I believe Mercedes has a similar thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's molded.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's part of the dash.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, I think that the interior on the BMW has improved a lot with that aspect.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just think it wasn't as refined as an Audi or Mercedes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, now with the BMW, it's more of a performance, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's more of a performance kind of brand-inspired in terms of the M packages and so on and so on and so on.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, you didn't have all Ms.
[SPEAKER_04]: You had some 335, 335s.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you get the same feeling with those cars?
[SPEAKER_01]: the drive, the feel, the kind of, you know, it is why the reason I keep kind of doing this is because the feel behind a steering wheel, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, even just the way it takes bumps, you know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_01]: I did, however bro, going back to the beginning when I'm saying I'm dipping it in an out in a car community bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anytime the badges got a D behind it, that's when Jamie's hurting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the D means economic Jamie.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: That D stands for, I'm broke now, because the loss mistake went badly wrong
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would actually say my first, like, my first real, like, big boy car was my eunuch to M3.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I had a manual on a 6MT.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, that was a step that, like, that was a big step for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like a really big step and driving that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like, I felt like I was driving a race car.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was my first proper car, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the, the, the weight distribution.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was close to 50, 50.
[SPEAKER_01]: So although I wasn't really like a driver like that when it comes to real world drive,
[SPEAKER_01]: When he asked and stepped out the control and sometimes you felt like a hero because he asked him with swing out, bro, how went in control?
[SPEAKER_01]: But it might have looked like I was in control because it kind of flacked around behind the steering wheel and it kind of brought itself back into line and then people behind me are like, yo, and I'm like, yeah, but yeah, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's one of those, the car really
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a very well balanced car, and it was then I knew that, like, yeah, M's no joke.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I mean, when you get to that real M category, no M lights.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you're into that real M category, the cause of serious cause.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, with with the diesels, right, you can't make any power with those.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really like, you can.
[SPEAKER_01]: And at 100% like the diesels, and again, I'm probably going to get this wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's either the M 57 or the N 57.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, come in the free-for-e-d and a free-free-fied-d.
[SPEAKER_01]: think I've got the right, and believe me, they are very, very tunable, but to a level, like you know, I mean, they have a roof, they have a ceiling.
[SPEAKER_01]: So with the diesel, let's say the free free 5D, I want to say they come up the factory with about 270 BHP, okay, with some hybrid turbos on that, you could pretty much get that to about 420 BHP.
[SPEAKER_01]: See, this is pretty sure it's powers again.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to bear with me people like, get your calculator.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm working hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe somewhere in the realms of 370 out of will.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I would say as far as you're going to go with one of those, unless it becomes an all-out drag card that is just undrivable because of the amount of black smoke that they emit, that you break.
[SPEAKER_01]: generally find when you really, really tune a diesel, you're probably going to see no more than 550 to 600 BHP, which might be, let's say, 500 wheel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they're tunable to a level.
[SPEAKER_01]: But for like someone who is a kind of change, you know how quickly the tuning game has moved.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like 10 years ago, bro, a thousand break horsepower, you were the man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, two thousand break horsepower's like, I call, you're not the man, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, that's how crazy it's moved.
[SPEAKER_01]: 600 HP or 500 will in one of those is still enough for the casual kind of code like infuse yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do they build the diesels more stout than I guess a petrol engine is that way you guys?
[SPEAKER_04]: So petrol?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we did do that, so you guys got a gas.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's quite weird because my YouTube channel is officially gas.
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially, we don't use that word, so that was a bit of a play on word because we used the word gas for excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him,
[SPEAKER_01]: they're still stocking tunnels.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're very, they're built different, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: They're built to handle a lot of torque from factories.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the rods are going to be for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: The pistons are going to take more abuse.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of these, not all of them, and again, I didn't really, I didn't go too deep into that tuning game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So just through things, I've picked up along the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: But,
[SPEAKER_01]: As far as I know, a lot of them is just like Bolton's and they're making these kind of powers.
[SPEAKER_01]: We do also, another big tuning platform that people love in the UK and around Europe, maybe in America, I'm not sure about, is the PD engine, the PD 1-3, which is essentially the 1.9 TDI, which comes in like your VW Golfs, okay?
[SPEAKER_01]: imagine some outies and some other things.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They can make good power too.
[SPEAKER_01]: They can make in and around the same, maybe up to, they like nitrous.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are like nitrous.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can probably get a little bit more awesome on the BMW's with nitrous, but the one-point-nineteed guys, they love the nitrous.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're make about 450 BHP.
[SPEAKER_01]: So probably, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: free 70-ish at the wheel on the motor and the turbo and then bit of nitrous these some of these guys are running like 250 shots of nitrous like you know I mean yeah so they're they're rock up and these little crazy little hot hatches
[SPEAKER_01]: All this black smoke coming out of front with a massive bottle of nitrous like you know, I mean I know they're pretty quick they're pretty quick But again, there is a little bit of a cap on how far you can tune them right, but it is a massive tuner Seeing when it comes to those and they do build their engine say they they kind of upgrade them a little bit now you did you did a video I think it was like a petrovers diesel Sure, yeah, yeah, just so yeah, so what what would you experience between the two like what was the reason for even doing that so So with me again when it comes to the OG battles which is for the people who don't know is
[SPEAKER_01]: It's non-prep racing, so I've got my own race series, which is non-prep racing on a runway, no-prep at all street cars generally.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, some of them get a little bit spicier, you know, like people say they're street cars, because they still got a stereo window from the line of it, you can get like that, but generally street cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've done so many videos, I think we're deep like 200 different races, maybe even more.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it gets to the point where it's that, I call it, we've done everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just see what could be interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in a UK, there is arguments about what's about at a certain power level between diesel and petrol.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, diesel creates a lot of torque.
[SPEAKER_01]: Petrol, you know, generally you can tune them a little bit higher, they revel it a little bit higher, it's a little bit revs or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought it would be interesting to pitch the two against each other at similar power levels.
[SPEAKER_01]: I see what happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, probably enough on, I don't want to give away too much.
[SPEAKER_01]: People go check it out because it's quite good, but essentially diesel comes out on top.
[SPEAKER_01]: within that power level.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing is, I've got some comments saying, all right, cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if we put the heavy hit is from the petrol in and the heavy hit is from the diesel in, bro, the diesel ain't going to stand a chance.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's because the levels of petrol tuning, like that is done in abundance at least in the UK, the levels of petrol is way higher, like, you know, right, but at a certain power level, like, let's say 500 wheel,
[SPEAKER_01]: diesel can put up a good fight, and especially rolling because torque is a great tool to have when you're rolling rolling.
[SPEAKER_04]: Make sure you guys go check that out.
[SPEAKER_04]: I will be putting that down in the description as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's interesting because I know that overseas, it seems like diesels are a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: If there's enthusiasm, petrol heads around or diesel heads or whatever you want to call them.
[SPEAKER_01]: People love to tinker, they love to blaze and even the runs bro, we want to see how much power can be made.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I mean, as you say in Europe, diesels and those two kind of engine variants plus others are quiet, yeah, the quiet hot, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you with these videos, right, you started doing these battles, I'm not sure how early on you started doing the battles, but it's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just had one recently deal with the GTRs, which I saw in the internet as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, there's this other YouTube channel called Carwowel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Colour yeah, so are you guys friends like because what's the affiliation there because I get confused because I'm like wait Are they doing the same content they're at the same?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's really interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we offer in the center.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay We're not like friends friends like we'll call each other, but funny enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in a group chat with their like producers and now on again We do some bits together.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been on their channel quite a few times But essentially, yes, we do the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: However, they're generally
[SPEAKER_01]: OEM stuff, so they might get the newest Lamborghini event at all, or whatever it will have to, whatever it might be, and they'll race it against something else, so they generally do non-modified stuff, however they do, like, falling in love in recent years, they've been doing a little bit more modified stuff, so I can even content runs out, you have to try to things, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas I am all modified, you know, everything is modified, and of course, and again, maybe I'm wrong in saying this, but I would assume that car will have a bit more of
[SPEAKER_01]: car following in terms of like not the big big big infusias into the tuning game watching.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of just your average Joe who would watch their channel that likes a little bit of racing, whereas you'd probably watch mine if you love tuning.
[SPEAKER_01]: But also, these guys are 10 times as big as me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a million subscribers, they've got 10 million, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: They're reach is much more vast, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm kind of the smaller channel, they were doing it before me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although we both do drag racing, no, it's not on the same surface, or style is a slightly different thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's something good to be had from both for sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's cool that you guys can work together, you know, it's not like, because it's so easy.
[SPEAKER_04]: People will be like, why is this guy copying or doing like, it's cool to see that you guys are, because I think I saw you in one of the videos already, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've went there and smoked a couple of hypercars and one done.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it was pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: So there's no, they probably just, you know, friend, just, that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now these these battles, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: What was the, um, was that just an idea that you came up with one day and you were just like, yeah, I want to get all these cars together and start doing stuff like what was the initial thought process behind doing this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it comes about quite interestingly, so I believe it or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it started about five years ago, four or five years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: And at the time, so me and my business partner, we want to have a product of our own, like a physical product that we can sell.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we started looking at the drag gear.
[SPEAKER_01]: We thought,
[SPEAKER_01]: man these guys are killing it like you know this with this little device it's like jeep it i don't know what goes into this that the other surely we could do our own with what i do and at the time what i was doing is i was using the draggy to measure my zero to 60's in my review so anyone who comes on with a car whether it be forward or everyone driver front or driver had i had these little leaderboards
[SPEAKER_01]: There will be a segment in it where we see how fast a car goes 0 to 60 because we also it's a measure that we can do legally because our speed limit is 70 and the roads that I used to do it on were 60 miles per hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: We could talk about the speed and people could get the metrics of the car a little bit to
[SPEAKER_01]: Just giving him a bit of a deeper feel to what the car is actually doing, if that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was using the dragon, I'm like, why am I promoting dragon?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, don't I mean, I could make my, oh, no, no, they don't pay me or anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I could make my own.
[SPEAKER_01]: So my business partner was calling around and he actually called.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why this would work or be a good idea like they'd give you many information.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's a company called Race Logic.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Race Logic basically build the V-box.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the V-box is like the OG GPS measured that before the drag it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a little bit more in-depth, or the first one had a little screen, so you could do it on a screen, it was in interface with your phone or anything, whereas now they've got all that integration, and it's come on leaps and bounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, they're like the OG, so we called them and just like, trying to get some details of how we could make that, they make our own product.
[SPEAKER_01]: And to be fair to them, they did give some information, but then they turned around and was like,
[SPEAKER_01]: will pay you like you know and I was like let's do it like you know and they said on top of that why don't you use our runway that we have you can come down you can race and cause against each other and you can show how our products work and I was like oh yeah let's do it so they're kind of spawned off not even trying to start like a drag race in series and
[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of just, it, it blossomed.
[SPEAKER_01]: We used it in a runway for a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, the runway was quite short, so it wasn't longer for the cars over the power of the track, and we had to move on to the next one.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was through that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of got started and just people like, it was a new thing, like in terms of for my channel, and people are loving it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I enjoyed it too.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's how that started.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, so you're not using a drag or using.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, so we only use race logics.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I always see when you're at.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so essentially, I'll be honest to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, we don't use it to its full potential.
[SPEAKER_01]: What we use is a V-box performance box touch.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's actually a track tool, so it's a circuit tool.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's actually to make you, or it can potentially make you a quicker driver around a track.
[SPEAKER_01]: It can tell you a losing speed, gain in speed.
[SPEAKER_01]: It has all the tracks around the world, in fact.
[SPEAKER_01]: like in its memory and it can give you any metric you want, but it's essentially you've got a memory card and you can take it out and put it in a laptop and just get every metric.
[SPEAKER_01]: We only use it for 100 to 200 KPH times, there are 16 core more times.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we barely dip our toe in the water, but it's a great product and that's why we continue to use it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So with that being said, you're in a lot of these fast cars, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I'm at a vastly other day, but I can't remember what you had said, honestly.
[SPEAKER_04]: What was one of the fastest cars that you were in, or driven, or either were passenger in?
[SPEAKER_01]: So you know what is.
[SPEAKER_01]: As you say, Brad been in so many fast cars and I've been in so many fast fast cars to the point where like they all give crazy experiences like you know what I mean but what does happen is you become slightly immune to speed so it has to be
[SPEAKER_01]: you're nearly dying, or it has to be a stripped out tin can with war too much, you're just going to make it feel crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, being in so many different cause, but one that just stands out so, so much to me, is basically a tuning company who I'm very close with, like these guys are my brothers, they're called ESMOTUK.
[SPEAKER_01]: They build the world's quickest and fastest Porsche's.
[SPEAKER_01]: And funnily enough, they own the world's fastest or the owner over a mere, sorry, the owner of ESMIA, the owns the world's fastest Porsche and quickest Porsche, which is a 997 911 turbo.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of like a 2010 kind of model.
[SPEAKER_01]: The cars got 2200 wheel horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's got a lot of power, sequential gearbox too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it real drive?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's full drive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but bro, it might as well be real
[SPEAKER_01]: because when you're trying to drive this car in a straight line, it just wants to rotate on.
[SPEAKER_01]: It holds the current half mile record in Europe too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually, sorry, I think it just got beaten.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it held the current half mile record of any car, but definitely for any Porsche it still holds out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which I think is, I don't want to say it's 230.
[SPEAKER_01]: It might be 229, I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: But bro, this car is just...
[SPEAKER_01]: it's so scary.
[SPEAKER_01]: On my runway we've got four lanes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it feels like a big runway.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in that car and it's changing lanes and using up the whole of the road.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's mind blowing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, sequential gearbox.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to take, you've got drive one hand.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, unless you want to keep, you know what I mean, you're trying to control this thing that it might as well be real well drive.
[SPEAKER_01]: When the boost hits, bro, it's no joke.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you feel everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: The only way I can kind of describe it is four-wheel drive torque steer.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you know in a front-wheel drive car, you put your foot down, and it goes, do do do do do, and it might pull to the side.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of the same with this car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, big power GTRs, how they kind of walk, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's the track.
[SPEAKER_01]: This does the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's almost hazing all four wheels like down the whole track.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's wild.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like one car that I'm like, what am I doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why am I even trying to drive this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: This, yeah, that one really left a lasting impression.
[SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of Porsche's have done that to me, believe it or not.
[SPEAKER_04]: So now we were talking about this before with the porches, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: I am not a I can't say I'm not a porche fan.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was funny about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: The only porche I've ever driven My sound crazy God the only porche I've ever driven was a GT2 RS
[SPEAKER_04]: I was only because it came in.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a customer's car at some shop I used to film at in New York.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we would take the cars and do videos and photos of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I got to drive it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Really fast car, little scary.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I didn't even know what I was in at the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the GT2.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then until later on, I found it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a really like, it's honestly rare.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the one.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, that didn't really get me into Porsche's at all.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just thought it was cool, but I never really looked into them.
[SPEAKER_04]: I might really show her what the chassis codes are.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the biggest confusion.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, what is the breakdown for chassis codes for a Porsche?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, we're going for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: But first, I will say, bro, you're not alone when it comes to this confusion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: No one, like, unless you're into Porsche, you don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is also, there's, it's an interesting one.
[SPEAKER_01]: To be a port, like,
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't come across many, many big, big, big portion fuzziasts because, in my opinion, the shape and design doesn't change much between generation.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's still a classic design, if that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: And for the money they cost, what you could buy instead and look a lot more, like you look like you're balling in a lamboe, or you can buy a portion blend in a little bit more, but the cars are kind of the same price.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for the younger generation to want to spend that
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the stats, what the car can do.
[SPEAKER_01]: But when it comes to chassis codes, it gets very, very confusing.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can run through the turbo.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like...
[SPEAKER_01]: when they first started the turbo, the Porsche 911 turbo, basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it started with the 940, that was the first of a 911 turbo.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it went to the 964, the second generation, and then it went to the 993.
[SPEAKER_01]: The 964, for anyone who's watching, is the one that was on bad boys.
[SPEAKER_01]: So after the 993 went to the 996, that was the first one that didn't have the round headlights at the front.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know the kind of, the one that looked like, I think they call it fried eggs, it's kind of round and it comes, comes around.
[SPEAKER_01]: Almost the ugly duckling version.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: arguably the ugliest.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the ugliest of the bunch and then so that was the 906 then it goes 907.
[SPEAKER_01]: They went back to the round lights and the 907 generation is the generation I was just talking about.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is just a quite joking around 2010.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they come out in about 2007 but had it like a face-lift and then after the 907 it went 901 and now it's went 902 and the confusing thing is they dropped the 903,
[SPEAKER_01]: But now, I've went back behind the 903 with their coding.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's very confusing.
[SPEAKER_01]: All these numbers are very confusing.
[SPEAKER_01]: On top of that, you've got .1.2, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: In most of them, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So that kind of the face lift.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of all of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then within these models now, you have loads of difference.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have the Kera, you have just the 911 T. Same chassis code, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Same chassis.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have, for instance,
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about a 9-0-1, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So a 9-0-1.2 GT-3, you can have 9-0-1.2 GT-3 RS, 9-0.2 Turbo, 9-0.2 Turbo, S, Carrera, GT-S, you've got all of these within that model code.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then potentially within the newer model code and so on and so forth.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can get really confusing because it doesn't really make no sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, it's kind of like how BMW is.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's three series.
[SPEAKER_04]: They have an M3.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it would be like an E90 chassis.
[SPEAKER_04]: E92, E90, whatever, four door, two door, acceleration, but just from the Porsche.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, with those chassis codes, but you said 9, 9, 9, 1, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So, if there's a turbo, a turbo S, Carrera, like what is it, what, what, what would, somebody who's a car enthusiast that wants a performance version of it, what would they go for out of those?
[SPEAKER_01]: So interestingly, after quoting those chassis codes, and being for turbos, so Porsche's used to be naturally aspirated, but the turbo model was the turbo, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one with the most power.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I want to say from, I think I'm right in saying, from the 991, which is like they came out in 2013 or 2014, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: even though kind of entry level one was like a turbo.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a freely a T. So the turbo kind of The real turbo now so essentially the turbo S is the top-way one if you want the
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want the refinement of a car that you can drive on the road, it's full drive and just goes fast as you like, you go for the turbo S. All the turbo, the turbo is nearly the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or a few things, like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it all right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it all right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But traditionally, anything that isn't a turbo or a turbo S or a carer of four, unless it kind of says it or a GTS four or whatever, it'll be real real drive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, okay, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want the all-out track call, it's DGT-free, or the GT3 RS, or the GT2, being a top-we-one.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the GT2 is the turbo variant of their track calls, because the GT3 and the GT3 RS, both naturally aspirated.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, right, and the 2RS is turbo turbo.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, when it comes to the turbo version and the non-turbo version, right, is there any difference to performance between the two?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, 100%, 100%, so obviously, but I'm saying, like, if you were to modify it in A1, whether it be any different.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, your stock, like any NA car, gaining power on normal fuel, and something like a methanol or something like that, right, you know, I mean, a nitro methanol.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to get power out of.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, not a lot of people who've done this, twin turbo them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, super charge them.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's been a few super charge.
[SPEAKER_01]: One, maybe two, twin turboed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So people basically don't do it with naturally aspirated.
[SPEAKER_01]: They usually stage one tune and in exhaust, leave it how it is driving around a track.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds nice, not very fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Real world drive and it's a proper, it's a driver's car.
[SPEAKER_01]: All of you have really the best handling car out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas the turbo S, whoa, what broke?
[SPEAKER_01]: Skyers than limit.
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
[SPEAKER_01]: I've had a couple of Turbo S's.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had the Rhino 1.2 Turbo S and I also recently sold my 992.1 Turbo S. My 992, bro, we were the blue one.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the blue one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we were running 1100 horsepower on a stock engine on that car.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Stock bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: So these cars can take it and that was safe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that is safe enough for ESMA to sell that as a package that they come back on warranty, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So the call was happy at that power, that's just full-boltings.
[SPEAKER_01]: No gearbox modifications, just a TCU tune, stock motor, turbos, intercooler, meffinow injection,
[SPEAKER_01]: Good ECU tune from Emrey, ESMite Rinturki, because that's where they originate.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a few other little bolt-ons, maybe an intake, that's it, where we're making 1,100 horsepower, and I'm telling you right now, in a UK, although everyone loves to cry, there's not a lot of cars, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_01]: What you're driving on the street are going to be faster.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, then of course, then of course, not necessarily my Porsche, but if we want to get into it like, if you're talking stock motor cars, I don't think there's faster.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're talking built motor cars, there's built motor Porsche's out there too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I'll bring that back on the street.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's a lot of cars running fast in the built motor 992 right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so how much does that car cost?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, it's all right, cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where you could because of course, there's, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so curious, I don't know how much it goes with.
[SPEAKER_01]: So essentially in the UK, if we're talking about the 992, pretty much the latest generation, right now, bottom dollar your your your buying one for is about 130,000 English.
[SPEAKER_01]: So turbo S. Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So these are the prices.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And for you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we can pick up an R8 for 70 grand.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: 70.
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: So that would probably be one of the early ones.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a 15.
[SPEAKER_01]: 15 play.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's still amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: As long as it's not like an O9 or O. No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about the the V10 platform.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So 70 grand.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dollars, I'm gonna say probably 160, 160-ish, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell us, tell us.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then for my build with the full ballons, ESMO retail that for around 35,000 UK, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, you've got about $50,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for that car, you're gonna be 200 grand.
[SPEAKER_01]: the whole built model.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want a built model a 992, I'm going to say and apologies so the yes boys are now mentioned in the name, they're definitely, they're always watching, they're always supporting anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: So apologies if I get this wrong but I want to say you're going to be an 80,000 English, so maybe a hundred grand kind of build spec on top of that for 1300 wheel horsepower car.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a 1500 BHP car.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: But broke, they lay it down like stock.
[SPEAKER_01]: drives exactly the same, not laggy, anything like that, bro, but they go so fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can physically drive them with one hand.
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, on the feature that I've done with a couple of them, I think we might have done it off camera because it might have looked a little bit dangerous to remember, but Rebase, they're kind of test driver.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's driving it, full throttle from second gear with one hand.
[SPEAKER_01]: like 1,500 break calls bar on the road and it's just straight isn't our own.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're so easy to drive the way they lay it down unreal.
[SPEAKER_01]: You cannot beat horses for all drive systems.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so good.
[SPEAKER_04]: And does it have a PD, is a PDK?
[SPEAKER_01]: PDK, PDK.
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, stock gearbox, just Dodson clutches.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you need at that kind of build level.
[SPEAKER_04]: So how are the transmission and what is the capable of?
[SPEAKER_04]: Terms of like, don't over.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, we're going to find out.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll tell you what.
[SPEAKER_01]: The 992, sorry, the 991, which that platform been around a little bit longer, pushed a lot further.
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, shout out to aim performance, which is a franchisee of ESM over here in these days today.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I believe they own the fastest 991.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a black one, that one, that one, that one, that one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one is the most one I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he just went into the sevens.
[SPEAKER_04]: I might be wrong, seven, I think his name is one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I could be wrong.
[SPEAKER_04]: But one is he has the black one, black one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's someone from the 18th century.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's shooting a parachute on this car, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's the one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my friend of mine actually knows him and he takes care of that car How in New York, but it's super fast car very very fast very very fast But it's interesting because when you come to the states, the levels change so perhaps not considered very very fast out here I mean a seven second car or low eight second cars or fast cars meet
[SPEAKER_01]: When you're talking about some of you boys with the GTRs running six seconds and going like some of these again What's a street car?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's not like that some of them running like low six is some of the V10s low six is Yeah, things changed, but out in the UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean like for a build of like a properly built 9.0 and 1 Bro like there there's nothing there's not a lot touching them on the road or on on the track to tell the truth
[SPEAKER_01]: What uh, so you're making this power on a stock transmission stuff. Yeah, sorry. See, I like it. I'll walk on a little bit. I just have to go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and
[SPEAKER_01]: No one builds a gearbox for the 991, no one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they break, but they might break at 1,500 brake horsepower, or they might break at 1,900, you just don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just one of those ones.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you've got a 1,700 brake horsepower Porsche, which about 1,500 will, it's sadly, it's probably not if it's when.
[SPEAKER_01]: You might go two years, you might go two pools.
[SPEAKER_01]: Generally they're good.
[SPEAKER_01]: They can break and I know that first time because I I had a built 991.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, mine was 1,300 BHP and Second gear roll.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was on a half mile trying to do some some half mile attempts and the boost came in way too hard gear box didn't like it Blue gear box and I tell you what when you're when you're talking about pushes and there's kind of money You don't want to be blown You know what I mean, but unfortunately no one does a gear set from that's what they need they need to operate a gear set
[SPEAKER_04]: But that's still pretty impressive that you can run that much.
[SPEAKER_04]: How much torque would I, I'm not sure, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of torque.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of torque, and to like to be fair to these gearboxes, like when you at that power, bro, you're taking a piss out of stock internals, like you're really whatever stock in the car, like,
[SPEAKER_01]: It's surprising, it's lost in one pool, but as I say, a lot of them are two years plus like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think now they've got a good supply of a second-hand gearbox, so it could make it viable, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's something that unfortunately is actually like a a bit of a holdback for how far you can push those cars, is the gearbox, just no one makes a gear set from.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Damn.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so the Porsche was like, you're your first
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I would say you're dream car, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: 100% how do you start?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Was it your first, how many of you would call an exotic?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it things like that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I like to, I mean, for me, I felt that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I spent 110,000 English pounds on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Most of them are spent on a car by a country mile.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say this probably about 135 US.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of money for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's kind of, you can kind of call it exotic money, you know, kind of bottom of the chain.
[SPEAKER_01]: What, what do you consider an exotic?
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't really use the word exactly in the UK, because we're super-car, we just use the word super-car, so something like what super-car entry level super-car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say just scraping into that category is a V10 Audi R8, just, and that's debatable.
[SPEAKER_03]: Same here.
[SPEAKER_01]: But essentially, it'd probably be a Lamborghini Huracan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a Clarence 570s, that'd probably just about getting there, and then maybe a Ferrari 48 for them, like, the big free.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of like entry level supercar, kind of, well, that's what I'll call it in exact, if that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in the turbo West, because it's turbo,
[SPEAKER_01]: 60 quicker than all of them, all of the cards and in fact actually probably beats them in every metric, like, you know, I would probably cross that as a super call.
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, basically, because I just bought one, it's been a lot of money, like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: So, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So on the Porsche level, right, there's different models, of course.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: You wouldn't consider all of them exotics, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: You wouldn't consider that or error, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, that'd be a sports car, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So now a terrible, on the Porsche scale, a turbo S would just be getting them into or you would consider, I would say, I would say,
[SPEAKER_04]: What about a GT3?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a tricky one.
[SPEAKER_01]: See, that's a very tricky one.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually a bit of a curve ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it's definitely super car money, or exotic money, if it's like £200,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I'm gonna say that's more of a... I'm gonna take his side step and I'm gonna say that's a track car.
[SPEAKER_01]: If not, the GT3, I'm going to say that's a track car, a track purpose built, a purpose built track car, I would say, an exotic track car, yeah, some room between, but yeah, if if if someone put a gun to my set, my head and said exotic or not, I'll say exotic for sure, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: because I noticed that a lot of people now, a lot of people get some money to run into some money, and you see a lot of people buying these GT3 RS's, and it seems like it's more of a flex car rather than using it for what it's intended for 100%.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, it's just interesting now because is it considered an exotic or...
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely more so I would say with the 992 generation over the 991.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: The 991 don't give me wrong like great cars, but it's 992 the way it looks, it looks wild, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: The wing is humongous, the arrow on a car.
[SPEAKER_01]: The newest one, the 992.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, 992, 991 is backwards, it goes 991, the 992.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so it's a quenchful for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's a deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're mad all the time right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're on a 992.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, 992.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's the newest way.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Adam and I'll see you just ball on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Quite possibly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That one's sick.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sick, they look crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they are a showpiece, as you say, it's a flex when they go down the road.
[SPEAKER_01]: But realistically, on the road is not where they should be, because they only shine on the track.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't drive brilliantly on the road.
[SPEAKER_01]: For someone like me and you, the dry force cause, they're not that fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: They sound nice, that's about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: What about a turtle restaurant?
[SPEAKER_01]: So where it's fast, is it?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like driving on the street.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can easily.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, just as easy as your G-A-E-B-M-W.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're not just a smooth, like, really nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's what they're created for.
[SPEAKER_01]: Four seats, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although, back seat passengers have to be power pleegix, they can just about carry four people.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're meant to be at every, in fact, this is what Porsche called them, every day supercar.
[SPEAKER_04]: every day supercar.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so let's supercar that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, what about all the other cars like the hyper, like you guys have hypercar.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's supercar.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's it's supercar.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, exotic.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't say exotics.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, really.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's supercar and then hypercar.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, right.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no difference between.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, I mean, and again, it's arguable where that crossover is like the name is it money based is it power based I'm not 100% sure Quite a point of argument right now would be the new Lamborghini for a well-toe I think it's pronounced
[SPEAKER_01]: thousand and one break horsepower, you know, that's hyper-core power.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess out of the box, maybe, but it's 500,000 pounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if that puts it in that hyper-core money category.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of, like, for me, that's maybe it is, maybe it isn't, you know, I mean, so I don't know, but hyper-core for me, it would have to probably be 1,000 plus break horsepower and cost quite a lot of money and be extremely rare.
[SPEAKER_04]: So now the flip side of that, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So I've got my ex-addicts.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hi, I priced items in so on, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about the lower price stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe handers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Honda's broke.
[SPEAKER_01]: See, this is the thing, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Going back to a full blaster of had these, uh, these porches and I've come to the owner McLaren too.
[SPEAKER_01]: But my heart is with the grassroots stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: To stuff that you buy and a slow as hell, but you make them so fast, they just dangerous.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what gets me going.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And
[SPEAKER_01]: is more rewarding than some of these cars that already top tier cars that you used to make faster.
[SPEAKER_01]: Taking nothing away from those top tier cars, because they're amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Honda's, again, I was never a big Honda guy, but Honda's have become something that I'm obsessed with, and that's only through starting a YouTube channel, and I remember the first time I ever drove a boosted Honda, bro, I was like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: What is the driver from all drive?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, from all drive.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got in this car and it was an FN2 also.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the one after the EP free.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if you got an EP free over here.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have, yeah, we have the EP free.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's the one after that.
[SPEAKER_01]: The one that is the ugly duckling, not everyone loved.
[SPEAKER_01]: Came with a K20, but heavier body, same power.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'd heard that about the car, never driven a boosted Honda and hopped into this car and it was stripped out and everything and I want to say it was about 400 wheel horsepower and I'm thinking, I've driven 400 wheel horsepower cars before and this is meant to be the slow one, bro, we're not boosted it and the steering wheel was doing that, bro!
[SPEAKER_01]: I will, what is this car?
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I never felt anything like, and it's because how aggressive they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to say he had a scream of pipe to atmosphere.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when it come on boost, the sound of like, bro, this is the most intimidating.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was literally at that moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, this is the hype, this is why.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you would have never got me to agree or say, a Honda is like a good car, unless I driven one.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I get, I get people who watch these Honda's and think they are rubbish and they look like whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: generally because they have a different one, because when you drive one and you drive one in anger, whoa, bro, and it always punch above their weight too.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, going back for it, that power there, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: The caution and being moving how fast it was moving.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could blew my mind how fast this car was at the quote, it power level, and it was then I knew I need one of these.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't just blew up from that.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's funny because the first, so what was the first time that you had a debut on the channel?
[SPEAKER_04]: Was it the integral?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it was my DC fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've got two integrals, but I've got the DC fight.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, which is, to me is a pretty, it's a pretty cool car to start with, because over here we have that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, it's not your RSA, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: That car, you actually got that car there, you could buy it, or you have to import it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you make me think no.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's quite a lot in the UK, but from memory that all imports, they never actually sold them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so it's still a JDM car.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a JDM car, and it's a JDM car, and of course in Japan, they drive on the right, in the UK we drive on the right, so it's just, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's your first car, which is actually pretty, pretty cool right very cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in fact, I was still so this is how you could tell I was still like a little bit unsure about hunters because only one at that time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I've got a different love from now because I've just become such a family, but only like Honda, I I like the look of at that time was that DC five.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's that that was kind of my in like you know, I mean, because obviously K 20 engine.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was a cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we can do some mad stuff like but it looks half decent too.
[SPEAKER_04]: So with that car, you ended up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Probably immediately getting to work with it, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: What are you doing with this guy?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, a pro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hit us.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when I bought it, it was actually super charged.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it came, not from factory, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the previous owner had super charged it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I had a Jackson super charged on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, in a cooler, made 300 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it made a good noise, but I don't think it was any faster than a stock K20 would have been to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just made a good noise.
[SPEAKER_01]: So already was modified, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, my whole goal goal, sorry, was to turbo this car.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, we got to work pretty quickly.
[SPEAKER_04]: So with this car, you've been through some ups and downs, a ton of them with this car.
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of downs work.
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of downs.
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of downs.
[SPEAKER_04]: It seems like every time you get it running, it's something else happens.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's a Honda, it's kind of expected, especially the power that you're making.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_04]: What is it making now?
[SPEAKER_01]: So right now, so, well, the lot, so we've got a new build going on now.
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
[SPEAKER_01]: Before I blew it up, it made a 1,000 of 30 at the hub, so... 1,000 and 30 more power at the beach people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wheel horse power.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're American horse power, just over 1,000, like I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: But bro, the thing is, with that integral, the reason I've spent so much money, and we talk about how much money I've spent on it, and it's absolutely mind-blowing, but the reason I have done what I've done, and the reason it's been so many ups or so many downs, a few ups, but not as many downs, is the fact that,
[SPEAKER_01]: I originally set out to build like a 500, 600 break horsepower car and I kept one in more.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now I mean, I kept one in more.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we were leaning on these components that never were never meant to be taking the kind of power that we're referring to.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of being a case of, all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is to set up, let's push this power.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, Jamie, are you sure that's all you want?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what that's all I want, but I'm not going to let's do more.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to blow it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then it'll be like, all right, cool, let's aim for this much power.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, Jamie, are you sure this is what we want?
[SPEAKER_01]: Just all I want, I'd be good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Montveleta, let's do more, blow it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we keep, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's like transmissions, they certainly are there, break, and so many breakages.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just been a mad learning curve, because as you've built it, shout out to AutoTalk, they're not like big Honda builders.
[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of,
[SPEAKER_01]: There were more 4G-6-3 kind of e-vostar, which is pretty similar in terms of force, they do a lot of RB stuff, new GTR stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's their kind of thing, but the owners are really cool guy, wanted to do something with me and I was like, well, I want to fall and drive a Honda like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: never done it but let's try it so for them it's been a learning curve too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again for my pocket not the fine actually most fine actual best decision but you know it's been a, it creates a story you know and it's, it's been a hell of a journey and I've learnt a long way for sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, do you believe in overbuilding at all?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because a lot of people like myself, I overbuild because I don't want to head out of you of having to go back and reduce stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to enjoy my car and kind of do what I got to do.
[SPEAKER_04]: If I want to turn it up, I can turn it up without having to worry about if something's going to break.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: So did you ever have that mindset with the, are you there now, at least with the company?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or are you like, I'm going to overbuild it?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm there now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm there now, but bro, I have never been there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm always like, how cheap can I do this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what can we get away with?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, especially when it comes to the K20, like, there's such a renowned engine, you know, they can English horsepower's here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So BHP, they could, they can quite happily do about 500 BHP, which would probably be about your 450 wheel horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could beat in them all day long.
[SPEAKER_01]: So once you put a set of rods and pistons in there, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're feeling invincible, like, you know what I mean, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Realistically, they have break-in points.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like how much can we push on the least amount of money, which look in back now, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I could have overbuilt it, I would have overbuilt it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I reckon I could have built my car for the same, like, as you see it, probably for half the price, I reckon.
[SPEAKER_04]: So how much have you spent on your Honda?
[SPEAKER_01]: So in terms of,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's a lot of money.
[SPEAKER_01]: So dollars wise, I'd probably say I'm probably in modifications in about $150,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: US, US, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And how many times have you broken with?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've broken so many times, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, three or four engines, transmission rebuilds, probably three times, but four will drive in it also, and not doing it myself.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is probably
[SPEAKER_01]: For a shop that can do the work themselves, greatly, greatly will minimise your costs, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm paying Labour too, so that's included in this, which is a great amount of that cost in if that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of Labour goes into actually fall driving a DC-5 type of path.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, I want to say EG's, EK's, EP-free's, and some other variants you can now get like bulk up kits.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to cut like transmission tunnels and things like that, but there's a lot of fab work that goes into making a DC-5 forward drive, which is probably why you don't see a lot of them if that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that, yeah, that caused you quite a lot, but it's more so, you know, I run a motorsport gearbox, I've got a quite sequential gearbox in it, that box is quite expensive, you find the limits of the bell housing, you find the limits of the transfer box housing,
[SPEAKER_01]: you upgrade it like you know I mean I want to say just to gear box in his own with the breakages probably US owes me $35,000 just on a box you know so it gets expensive.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that the most expensive aspect of it you think?
[SPEAKER_04]: Transmission.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I'd probably say the transmission if you look at what I've spent on it some buy.
[SPEAKER_01]: U.S., it's, so for a quave transmission, like, without any billet bellhousing or anything like that, you're probably looking maybe about $15, $14,000, but once you start going billet bellhousing, billet transportation, all that, I mean, you're probably be closer to $22,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: I might be off with my estimations here, but yeah, it gets expensive.
[SPEAKER_01]: My engine this time round, we went for a pretty good solution.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I tried to do with this car, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: It makes 1,000 or 30 of the wheel, which actually makes it in the UK the most powerful K20, which again, I know is not majorly impressive, so I know you've got a massive U.S.
[SPEAKER_01]: audience.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also, I want to say that, I don't want to be too soft here, anything like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But whilst I've been in the States, it's been humbling to see how many people, especially in Florida, yeah, have...
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of come and show love and and said they they love what I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want to like I want to big up the states like you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: But basically you guys are levels ahead.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a thousand at the wheel out here is kind of nothing but in a UK like that's pushing the boundaries.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason I stuck with the K20 was because it was a little bit different.
[SPEAKER_01]: Generally when people want to go more power they go K204 more talk and they can hold power a little bit better and I thought it would be a little bit more unique
[SPEAKER_01]: So what I'm now, and the problem with that is
[SPEAKER_01]: you've got to run a lot of boost to try and make power and on a four cylinder K20 to Lita, it lifts heads.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that is being something that I have been battling with for maybe two or three years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, in my opinion, my car has been an eight second car for the last two years.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've just never done an eight, whether it be the 60 foot, whether it be up top, but something is always stopping me.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's had the terminal.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, my car was trapping
[SPEAKER_01]: at about 900 wheel horsepower was trapping 160 mile an hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: At about 9.2.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the terminal speed is right up there for 8 seconds.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll be running a 9.2 with a 1.66 foot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, and then we could speak about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I won't go too much into it by the prepping of UK isn't the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: But also, I run that car non-prep.
[SPEAKER_01]: I run that just straight on it like straight.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want people to know, when they watch my channel, when they see me run a time, yeah?
[SPEAKER_01]: If you say anything about your quicker, just know, I'll run this time on you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I mean, I don't have to be on a track.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I wanted to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to just know that anything I'm running right now, you can get it like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was kind of my, my thing, but I'm my detriment, you know, because...
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, running non-prep, it brings up other things like, you know, you can really shake the transmission, you know, it's probably not the best.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's been a big, big fight, lifting heads and yeah, luckily the last time I lifted a head,
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a side-to-side-execie, so side-to-side-execie, so I've run a side-to-side-exie, which again is very left-filled for what people use on the side-to-side-execie, is actually a really good ECU.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very good ECU, I mean for people who don't really know much about side-to-side-execie, it's probably your motech equivalent, you know, with functionality and what you can do.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've got a Syvex again, another expensive item that's on the car, and then once you start talking about how many senses and so on and so forth, but what we do have is a call-in-pressure sensor, so we can tell when the call-in-pressure spikes, and what we have is a safety on that, that as soon as it sees X amount of pressure, it'll cut my ignition.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, it will...
[SPEAKER_01]: hopefully save the engine and it has, but what it does is it blows a gasket might chip a little bit out of the head, maybe we can skim it and do a new solution.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've tried o-ringing it on our last last attempt.
[SPEAKER_01]: I run a 220 rammy race in sleeved o-ring block or that's what I was running, we thought that would be able to hold the power.
[SPEAKER_01]: It did until we tried to run 55 pounds for it and it lifted the head but again we caught it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now on my new ceiling solution and you know what
[SPEAKER_01]: want to get this right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's boosty built.
[SPEAKER_01]: You might have heard of him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's from the States.
[SPEAKER_01]: He runs like, he runs a couple of Honda's all-wheel drive Honda's big power, like 1,300 wheel, I want to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know he's built some cool cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope I'm getting that right, boosty built.
[SPEAKER_01]: The boosty, I think, is his name on Instagram?
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm out from it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I'm familiar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, shout out to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope I got that right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he out of nowhere, after he saw my last break, he just reached out to me and he goes,
[SPEAKER_01]: have you thought about this like we've tried everything and this is our solution and I also had problems with my viscous couple which is the thing that transfer the power from the front of the wheel and he's like this is the guy to take it to and so on and so so he just out of nowhere like and this is this is where you really like the community you know because there can be toxicity in the community right but this is where the community comes together he he didn't have to help me you don't have to tell me a secret you don't have to do not mean but you kind of wanted to see me win like you know I mean so
[SPEAKER_01]: He told me we need to do this, we need to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, shout out to TrostFab.
[SPEAKER_01]: He built my viscous couple, I sent all the way to the States.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I wanted it done right.
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't loads of problems.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he also then put me onto a ceiling solution by bullet racing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you had a bullet racing, I'd do a bit of blocks.
[SPEAKER_04]: They do RBs, they do RBs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we went for their fire ring setup, which is essentially now like a special groove like this kind of machine into the top of the ball
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say it might be cop-up, but it might not be.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you can do copper, or a kind of brass in mind.
[SPEAKER_04]: But copper, brass, or stainless steel.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's what it's want to write.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's kind of built to receive a copper gasket.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that is basically the solution that they say, they've rather crazy PSI for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the only thing that works.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that is the new build of the engine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Still on that runway racing block.
[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully that will take the power.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've actually went up a size in turbo now too.
[SPEAKER_04]: What are you guys running?
[SPEAKER_01]: So we were running so shout-out to precision because precision sponsored all of my builds.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been a great help and a gem free turbo.
[SPEAKER_01]: So just mind-blown how much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: How much of a jump they are over the Gen 2s.
[SPEAKER_01]: But also how far ahead they are in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of a turbo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ransway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like anyone running the precision.
[SPEAKER_01]: they're the ones breaking the records right for the most part.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we were running in a gem free 6870 and it was it was pretty much on the limit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say at the thousand and further we'll go on the on the K20 at least.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so this is the logic and there'll be people here because I'm again I know stuff but I'm not the most mechanically minded but this is the logic and it seems to make sense that we had to run 55 pounds through that.
[SPEAKER_01]: to basically make our 1,000 or 30 at a will.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: If we go up in turbo size, we can run less boost pressure and make the same power.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, making less cylinder pressure, hopefully not lifting the head so much.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've went up to a 7275 next gem.
[SPEAKER_01]: with the idea to make a round of same power, but I less boost, so that's the idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's so quick, small in, however, we used to run a Garrett GTX 35804 RS and the spool on that made my integral, deadly, like as soon as you're on the front, you're gone, especially with a sequential, like that's what made me hard to beat, you could come with like two, three hundred break calls, but I'm all, I'm gone, you've got to try and chase me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And usually by the end of the track, you ain't got up enough, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas when we went to the 6870, although the spool was good, we did notice it was a little bit more lag before the boost came in.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So going up a size of gain in turbo, now we're like, how is it going to hit?
[SPEAKER_01]: We've revined, we can rev the car to 10,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what you're after now?
[SPEAKER_01]: So we were, we were, I think, on the last build, we revved it to about 97.
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't went all the way to 10, but it's got 10 in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: do we need to though?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we might need to.
[SPEAKER_01]: We might need to.
[SPEAKER_01]: With the bigger trouble.
[SPEAKER_01]: We might need to go there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We might need to rebels because if it's coming on that and I'm not saying this is where it's coming on, but just saying it might.
[SPEAKER_01]: If it's coming on at six, we need some we need to rebels.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you know, I mean, so.
[SPEAKER_01]: we might think about nitrous too, just to get it spoiled.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, bro, like, I've just explained how much money I spent on this car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not trying to break it anymore, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: What we want them for all.
[SPEAKER_01]: So my goal now is to get this like, shout out to Havio from TRC.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's another like one of my guys who have really helped me out when it's coming to the states, put me in the circles, I need to mix with and point me in the right direction.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also help me with my DCFi, because he had a R6.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all the right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had had my D.C.
[SPEAKER_01]: fight for like a year, full will drive it, he's asking me questions, he gets his breaks the world record, sells his, and brought I've still got my amendment, I'm not eight, why is it always broken, I'm like he just came in, killed the game, dropped the mic and left, you know what I mean, but yeah, shout to him, so basically I actually when he sold his card,
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, wait, what was that?
[SPEAKER_04]: But wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was scary as hell.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, woo.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're leaving that end.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was to hear it.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, yes, so I bought his Bellax off him and his entire setup.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So him and Real Street set out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've got his setup.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got his entire setup.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what I'm going to be doing is
[SPEAKER_01]: Once it's rebuilt, I'm gonna try and make the same power on that turbo, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I might make a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_01]: It might happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, let's see what it does, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm gonna go to the track.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna run it eight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't care if I've got to turn it up to 11 to run it eight.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I reckon if everything hooks up, it should do it like a nice mid-eight.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, I'm turning it down.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just gonna run it exhibitions.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just gonna put it away in mission complete.
[SPEAKER_01]: And just keep it there, you know, I don't need to run into you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where I'm at right now, from hurting.
[SPEAKER_01]: This car is cost me, it's like literally, it's super calm money.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's super calm money and money.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to see it, I want to see it due to numbers.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just kind of want to complete that chapter, not to take the core of the channel or anything because that core is my baby and I think a lot of people watch the channel to see that core, especially the way I drive it, because when I'm driving it, I'm driving it, and I'm pulling that sequential life, I have the bends on it, and I mean, and I just feel like that core represents everything that makes
[SPEAKER_01]: or gives me my buzz from cause, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my addiction right there, like, bottled, like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's the one that always beat out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Never get rid of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's funny because one of the biggest things that I guess a lot of people gravity towards with your content is when you're driving a car and how intense it is allowed to shift.
[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy, bro.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's sequential definitely plays a big part in your channel.
[SPEAKER_01]: It does, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what's crazy?
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, for the people watching who are coming on this journey with me, through motoring like, through the different levels of cars, from starting at the, say, 400 break calls by our cars, all the way up to whatever we might be at now experiencing this, it's been a journey for me too, because I haven't always been around those kind of cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm learning on camera, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember the first time I ever drove a car with a sequential gearbox, I was like, what is this?
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like brought, I didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: The ignition cut between gears.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: If it feels like you're pulling like a lever in a factory, bro, like it's mechanical.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I'm saying bro, like, and if you're a petrolhead and you like growing gears, but then you've got a sequential, it's almost like you still got involvement.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's faster, you know, I mean, you're quicker with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's more dramatic.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, arguably, you can still get loads of dogbox hatech pattern calls, you know, which you're actually going to be hatech pattern.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm a baggy, yanking, back on that lever bridge.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just gets me excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, when I first drove it, the first car I drove was an offer at E3 GTR, it's like a thousand horsepower, like, never driven us a quenchury in my life.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's the silver one.
[SPEAKER_01]: The silver one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, glycone down.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, it was crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was actually, I think that's one of the first videos I saw on your channel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was that one.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was, it was a big moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, because as I say, people are learning with me.
[SPEAKER_01]: The amount of people who didn't really know about, again, like, is you attract people who are kind of, or people are attracted perhaps to me at a time when they subscribe, because of my mindset and my knowledge levels, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And they gravitate towards it because it's the same as them.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, great.
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of them didn't know about Sequentials Eva, so the first time they see me and it's kind of doing that, they're like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's now bucket list for like everyone like you're watching that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the 33 was definitely was a milestone in a channel for like okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is, this is what people are doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what's available.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it changed everything and shout out to the guy who brought his card down because it was a last minute feature and sometimes he's the best.
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't planned.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was someone else pulled out and it was probably
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I put something out on my Instagram is anyone got a card.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want featured and Some of my message means like here my friends got this car was a quencher game I didn't even know what sequential was so he's pulled up and I'm looking in I'm like, right, that's a it's a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't I didn't know yeah, and I learned on the on the job Like you know what I mean and there the I was it was a magical moment and after that is like everything has got to be sequential And it's got it just I don't know the passion comes out with a sequential
[SPEAKER_04]: So, really give you a crash course on it, real quick.
[SPEAKER_01]: Real quick though, it's like so basically we was a quencho and this mostly, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, let's talk about like your normal street car or even if it's a drag car for the most part.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you're driving it slowly, you use the clutch, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's basically you shift sequentially meaning you can go only go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 3, 4, 5, 6.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't jump again and it's back down.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, sequentially up or down the gearbox.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you're down-shifting, use the clutch, generally every time.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you're gearboxes, you can down-shift without a clutch.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not good for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: But generally, not generally, but when you're on full load shifts, if you have a load cell on the shifter, meaning basically it senses when you're about to grab an X gear.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a strain gauge.
[SPEAKER_01]: A strain gauge.
[SPEAKER_01]: What it does is it momentarily cuts the ignition so it doesn't ignite the fuel going into the cylinder and it allows it takes just enough strain of the drivetrain to allow you to pull the next gear.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't need to touch the clutch.
[SPEAKER_01]: You basically keep it pinned and you pull that lever to hold it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And usually you can tell if the shifts are set up real crispy when you get that loud snap between gears ignition power.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing you know is done right and again it adds to the drama.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know when you pull in it it's almost like letting off a shot on a cannon.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, like being in a tank will sound bad, bad, bad, that's how it feels to me, but so yeah man, that's that's basically it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So now between obviously between H-Pattern and Sequential, you feel like all cars should have a sequentially or there's some cars we feel like H-Pattern should be like, is a part of that car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Correct or what?
[SPEAKER_01]: The good thing about Sequential in a race environment is you cannot money-shift it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gentlemen, you can't do a 1, 2, 1.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you do a 1, 2, 1,
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, you're lucky if you don't blow up your engine, but you're probably gonna blow up your gearbox.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes both, so it can be very expensive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: with a sequential, you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, that's gonna alleviate that.
[SPEAKER_01]: The only difference in my opinion, because shift speed is the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you've got a load cell on that H-Pet and Dog Box, shift speed is pretty much exactly the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: All you have to do though is that second to third shift, which is the hard shift.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the hard shift.
[SPEAKER_01]: First and second's back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: four to fifths back.
[SPEAKER_01]: All it is is that third to fourth.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's where it can go wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or, well, well, it can go wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, you can, you can, you can pull the wrong way.
[SPEAKER_01]: But realistically, you are still rowing gears.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I kind of understand it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, if you're a race car and you're trying to chase times and you're in danger of money shift and go sequentially.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you don't, if, I know cars got lockouts too, so you can't manage shift.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I guess if you want to row gears, hate pattern,
[SPEAKER_01]: and you kind of want to be as fast or nearly as fast as the squint as sequential because there might be something in it but it's my new pro.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hundreds.
[SPEAKER_01]: If that maybe thousands.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then go for the go for the hate man.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to give a different driving experience.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe if you've got a road car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: For the hate man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because then then you're going to get there.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to be able to roll gears.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you know, it's going to give a bit more.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, fear to drive an on a road.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're trying to go fast in a straight line to sequential all day,
[SPEAKER_04]: You feel like this quench your own street, like on the street is like kind of annoying to have to go to gears back and forth.
[SPEAKER_01]: It isn't it?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, if you got a call, it's a sequential, you're probably not going to be daily in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when you're going out for spirit drives, it's just part and parcel of the drive, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not only just adds to the drama.
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, if you want to go to a light from a 4 to 2, you can't do that, you've got to go down, down, down.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is quick, kind of.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true, that's true.
[SPEAKER_04]: Have you ever tried the paddles or air shift in?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's essential.
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, even so this is where it starts to become all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're driving a DCT car, because there's nothing in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also what you can do with, in fact, you don't even need paddles to do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can do this as a sequential, as you can get air shift that is RPM based.
[SPEAKER_01]: And with the right ECU, you can get to change gear for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can have a sequential gearbox.
[SPEAKER_01]: It changes gear at 8,000 RPM.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the shift perfect every time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it manual then?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a robotized manual, I guess, because you're commanding it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still got a clutch and everything like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: but it's not manual.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a fine line and some gray areas.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yes, a sequential with paddle shift.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it's savage mode.
[SPEAKER_01]: I always drive in one the other day.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in front, we'll drive too.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a Renault Clio.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I don't think you get those over in the States, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Renault, another French car, another piece of crap pretty much.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this one had a K20 engine in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were like, we were like a touch 7 speed sequential gearbox, I think it was 7, it might have been a 6 speed sequential gearbox, but yeah it was paddle shift and it was hydraulic shift, so it wasn't even air shift, it was hydraulic like an F1 car, so ultra ultra quick, so basically done on like a hydraulic pressure and all this kind of stuff, it's crazy, but again, although you're in a race car or a bit of a race car, it does start to take away from the feel of driving like properly driving like at least with a stick here, you're pulling something.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then arguably, a lot of people now are doing ZF swaps, not into Honda's, but into other cars, seeing them in two days or bees, like you know, I just saw one this weekend, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're core bro like, and again, you can get a shift that pops out like a sequential shift there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're actually still yanking on a stick and it's like, it's almost like,
[SPEAKER_01]: I compute a game version of this sequential that kind of gives it what it's saying Phil, which is a quick box two and we all know how well they can do with the right build.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I guess it comes down to preference and what's right for the purpose of the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: But for me, as I say, maybe biasedly, after that first experience, pulling that bro, this car was wild man, it was like one of the fastest cars ever driven, you know what an RV sounds it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're an RV man yourself, too, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm an RV man over a 2J, too, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just for me, I just disowned and sat my back.
[SPEAKER_01]: So having that power mixed with that gearbox.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can't remember if it was a PPG or what it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or a Holland Jaffe, it was a Holland Jaffe.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was insane.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that just left a lost impression that I had to repeat in my own cause.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's funny because you just said, you're a RB guy too, but it seemed like when I once saw Australia, it seemed like the 2J Super wasn't really like that popular.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure if it's like a U.S.
[SPEAKER_04]: thing that the 2G is glorified, but what is it like in the UK when it comes to the RB versus 2G kind of situation?
[SPEAKER_01]: So...
[SPEAKER_01]: Interestingly, I'm not too deep into the two days in the UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do know the two days do make more power in the UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've pushed them further.
[SPEAKER_01]: How much further I'm not too short, but I'm pretty sure we have had a couple of 2000 horse power plus ones in the UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: Orbeez, I'll be real if you write now at least.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's anyone making one about 1200 horse pass at the wheels.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I noticed that on your channel there's a lot of 1200 horse power stuff, but nothing really to which I wonder why because it's not like they don't have the money to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's insane actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: In shout out to a guy who's come on my channel quite a few times, it's super, super humble guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: His name's Ibrahim.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a
[SPEAKER_01]: The final spec scene out there, but this car is gonna be right up there, Australian spec kind of crazy build.
[SPEAKER_01]: As far as I'm aware, I might be getting this wrong, but from what I remember him telling me, it's gonna be up there.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the budget to do that kind of stuff like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And also shout out to Andrew Hawkins, because he's another, right out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a great, you know, if you know Andrew, you know Andrew, and he's a great guy too, and he's the king of the GTRs, and he comes to the UK and he's like, this is cool, but come on, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's just so far ahead.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's not to say that the RB still ain't put it in the work, you know what I mean, and RB's generally, well they are in a GTR for drive, two days of rear wheel drive, we run a lot of non-prep, so you can come with all the pay you want in your two-j if you can't put it down, you're getting gaps like that, that's just how it goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, as you say, in the States, it's a different story.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I've actually filmed with Cody Phillips Racing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if you know who that is.
[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds really familiar.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's big in a two-day game.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the one that he's got a Supra.
[SPEAKER_01]: The cars you're watching them go is a different level.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you see like her, I really, really big power Supra, I want to say these are out, 2008, 100 Horsepower, all the right setup.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's mind blown.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen an RB go like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although,
[SPEAKER_01]: I do know that in Australia, they're quite close.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're closing the gap now with the two J-times.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say an obvious went into the Fives now or no?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's been in the Fives, but it was like a pro-mind.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Five seconds.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it was Zeus.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're getting there at this time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I spoke to someone in the UK and they're a tuner and I was like, look, as much as they also love the RB from a tunin standpoint and working on standpoint, they said the 2J is superior in every way.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I heard, although I'm still an advocate for the RB, and I don't own an RB car, so I have no reason to be shared.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just should drive and feel.
[SPEAKER_01]: We love to sound of a 2J too, don't get me wrong, but for me there's something about the note of an RB.
[SPEAKER_01]: my favorite sound in engine, of all cause, probably, is a one-day.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I am like, and this is come from a, I'm biased.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the second.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You are the, are we first, one day sounds similar to an RB, like it's very, very close to RB.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I like a one-day, one day sound great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: When it comes to the UK racing scene or the UK car culture, what is it like over there as opposed to the US?
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
[SPEAKER_01]: My first year in the US, it was a big eye opener, which was 22,000 and 22 at TX2K.
[SPEAKER_01]: Straightaway, you realize how much further you guys have pushed pretty much all platforms.
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially the GTRs, the V10 platforms.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't get vipers in the UK, but seeing a vipers and everything like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no vipers in UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't get vipers?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they might have imported a couple, but again they're going to be imported.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be imported and not tuned, generally I mean they're imported just to be imported like nice cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: The levels, all I can say is it's like you guys have been, it almost seems like you guys have been doing it longer.
[SPEAKER_01]: The infrastructure is here and it runs through your veins a little bit stronger that does in the UK if that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also it seems like you've got a bigger community which
[SPEAKER_01]: Does that make sense?
[SPEAKER_01]: You've also got so much more tracks.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got one track in a UK in terms of proper drag ships.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shared to sound upward, actually, because sound upward is our proper raceway out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's actually, well-droned out, they'll be Americans that, like, big, like, is it NHL-Ray guys?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, they'll probably know the track.
[SPEAKER_01]: The infrastructure is the same as something like Texas multiplex, it's a big big, but it's not only one, so we only have that, and again we're a small island, in a grand scheme of things, but there's not a lot of us.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we can only push each other so far, unless we travel over into Europe.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then again, there's only a couple of tracks in Europe, whereas
[SPEAKER_01]: Over in the States, bro, I was blown away off.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was, um, it was last year at Texas 2K.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was filming with Dre.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember we were at TX 2K at Texas Motorplex.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, yeah, I'm 10 minutes away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Come check me here at this other track.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: I went 10 minutes down a road.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was another drag.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I had another of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, bro, like, this is just Texas, we're talking about, like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: X, R, P, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F
[SPEAKER_01]: It's what I know, but I'll just say we're not on the same level.
[SPEAKER_01]: We ain't on the same level.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we're catching up in some, or we're catching up that we can, we can back it out on the same kind of grounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: We probably ain't going to win, but like we're coming up to a level where we can actually come in a little bit competitive on some things.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe X58 platform B58 platform, kind of getting there.
[SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to V10's GTRs, we just miles behind, just miles behind, street racing is a different level.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like out here, you street race in the UK, we mess around.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, there's people in the UK who probably think they street race.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're never being to the States and seeing street racing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why do you say that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because of the way that the street racing is done in the UK?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or is this because of...
[SPEAKER_01]: It's ours, so it's, again, it's in your veins.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the US street racing is a proper thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's almost like a well-organized business, if that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys lock off roads, close down a road, you're prepped the road, you have people at the end, monitoring it properly.
[SPEAKER_01]: At the beginning, you'll have a man who just comes and does the torch.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he does best.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's his talent.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or how I mean he drops that?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_01]: everything he's set up like there'll be money on it big money like you know what I mean like you guys do this or you'll go to a location way out in the middle of nowhere you guys are prep it and you'll be running like 8th-mile times that like our mind blowing like you know I mean like people can't even do want to like a prep strip like we don't have that in a UK so what what we we call street race him
[SPEAKER_01]: is essentially what you guys are probably calling a little bit of role racing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, you meet up on the highway.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you do some pulls on the highway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even then, when we're doing it, it's disorganized.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, I'm just taking anything away from the guys in the UK that do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm just letting them know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they probably aren't being to the states and seeing how you do out here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just letting everyone know.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't do it like them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So what they're pretty much doing is meeting up at a location in a car park.
[SPEAKER_06]: OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: There might be a couple of rivals or whatever, or maybe three or four people and like they'll just do a role race on a third beat and they'll go and like you know what I mean and that's okay that's UK street racing If I have, if there's ever been a race environment where they have locked off a road, prep the roads, put money on it and race to bro, I have missed it because in my opinion or not in my opinion in my life time I've never heard of it happen So that's how far off we are that makes sense you guys do this
[SPEAKER_01]: We have some fun, that's where it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And another track or track culture, again, isn't like yours.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what I realized is the amount of street cars for street cars that really wanna push at the track too.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the UK, you even mess around on the streets or you've got a drag car and you go to the track.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's only been in the last few years now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're starting with our four street cars to really chase times on the track.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and it's also probably goes this way in America too, but it's a lot of dodging races in the UK, like normal what's the line up with each other that you know, I mean everyone's talking about the fastest this got the fastest that you know what, I've actually got a track because I haven't run away.
[SPEAKER_01]: I try to get them to go, I never want to race.
[SPEAKER_04]: They all talk because there's a lot of talk, you know, I mean, what what so what is a popular platform that people are most likely street racing without there that you see in more.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to see the X58 platform, B58's, B58's, yeah, it's mostly going to be that kind of stuff that does, you know, you get the RS3s, the TTRs that probably be out there, the Porsche's active in the UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're the cars to be, no matter what anyone tells you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I see everything, I'm lucky enough to be in a position where I am part of the racing culture in the UK, I see everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Porsche is the car to be on the street.
[SPEAKER_01]: If anyone tells you different, it's because they're upset that they've got beat by a Porsche or they want a Porsche, but they can't afford a Porsche.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the GTRs, honourable shout to the GTRs.
[SPEAKER_01]: On the track, you can't beat them.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't beat them, you can't beat them.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're the right prep, but they've got to be on slicks.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're the big, big Mickey Thompson's or whatever, we've prep to go fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: On the street.
[SPEAKER_01]: To tell the truth on a street tire, like half of them have to turn it down to a point where they can, you know what I mean, like, it's their traction limited.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they can only really put down, I don't know, maybe 1,500 wheel is gonna be the absolute most, and even then you're gonna be changing, you know how they drive.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna be fighting it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas a Porsche, like I was saying, while your fighting bro, that Porsche's straight is an arrow and it's gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: A very, very, very rarely, where you see a 1,500 horsepower GTR on the road, but a Porsche's active.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's mad.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's mad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Only car that's coming close right now would probably be some B-58s, okay?
[SPEAKER_01]: Some S-58s, they're getting close.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're getting very close, but I would still say, in abundance, the Porsche's are the street kings out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's the ES Porsche's too.
[SPEAKER_04]: So do you think a lot of the BMWs being in the streets has any influence from the culture over here, as far as the BMW racing in the streets here?
[SPEAKER_01]: My certainly, my certainly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, what I feel like a lot of our car culture is, especially when platforms are kind of used out here quite frequently, he's a bit of a trickle down.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're doing it, we're probably going to see it six months later and try and check.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of what you guys are doing out here is inspiring what we're doing in the UK, in fact makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: And big up to RIP, Rest in Peace One Stock.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a, I think he had quite an effect on a lot of people in the UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: Worldwide.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did he inspire you to get your M240 or a good one?
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't have a M240, I would have, so, interestingly, so when I came over to the states in 2022, I think it was the first time I came over and I see what you guys are doing with the super, it's the Mod5 super, but I see them popping wheelies off the line, I couldn't believe what I was saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I didn't, what are you guys doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, that was mind blowing, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'd only seen a few in the UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let alone pop in Weeley's like running low eight so that time or whatever they were doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've seen this and I'm like, no one's doing this in the UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me jump on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me do this, get ahead of the curve.
[SPEAKER_01]: I noted it in the state so it could be good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me jump on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I went home and I bought a modified Supra.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the build wasn't brilliant.
[SPEAKER_01]: and my audience didn't really gravitate towards it, unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it was also some of my energy towards the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really mesh with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know if I really liked it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, it didn't really go too well.
[SPEAKER_01]: But also a lot of, this is where I found out how toxic it felt like the B58 or the S58 or the BMW community actually was.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I stay out politics, but I'm very busy and I'm lucky enough to have many different platforms or cars, many builds that I can just jump in and out because I'm building loads of different cars, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But I felt with that one in particular around a B58, it's very toxic.
[SPEAKER_01]: So on top of the car, not performing well for the channel, the build not going to plan and the toxicity, I was like.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to, I sold a car, never, am I getting another BMW on this platform?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or, I know it's not BMW, but B5D at well.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was done with it, went on about my way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it's 2024, as that a TX2K.
[SPEAKER_01]: And these times, one stock is known.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's very well known.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's making noise on the street.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know one thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: What he's doing what he's doing, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, it kills me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, he kills me, but he was doing what he did.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd never met him before.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not too shy to go up to people who are like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And just shake the hand and just say, yo, I see what you're doing, like, good to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the perspective that I used to get of Drain was
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, from what I was seeing, it wasn't that positive from my perspective, just watching these videos.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I didn't watch everything you done, but when I would see a little clip, it would usually be torn in someone or something like when the money on the bonnet or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't know how he was going to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to just say, yeah, well, I see what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're not on the light that you're doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, he was a nice person, I've ever met.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he was.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't expect it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't expect him to be so warm, so full of joy like you so so full of anything like he was the He's the boy like when he's there the divides it are like that's how I felt right and I was like I didn't notice guy was cool like you know
[SPEAKER_01]: And instantly, I don't know who said it, if it was him, if it was me, or if it was like both of us for it, it's like we got to get a feature on this car, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, he was like hell, yeah, so we filmed the initial bit at TX2K, when we have the talk, and he was competing at, yeah, I want to say you might have been out at this point, or you might have still been in, I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Two years ago, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: This was Losha.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, last year, March, so I can't remember what was happening, but anyway, he was like, yeah, let's do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, finally enough going back to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, I said, he called me, he's like, he's at the other track.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, after we had done our film when it takes to, okay, he went and done his thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was testing or doing something like the other track.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, come meet me at the other track.
[SPEAKER_01]: we'll do the feature from there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, man, we've done a feature.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was no seat in his car.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no passenger seat.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm sitting on the floor, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm like, bro, how am I gonna drive this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that bro?
[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to drive this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you want me to drive this and you won't even sit in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, bro, you're gonna be all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was crazy because like, he just trust in me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I mean, with such a crazy car, and of course, I've driven some some wild cars, but the fact that you just threw me at the first time we like met like we've probably been speaking two days at this point, wherever, threw me the keys driving men, and it's full power when you're feeling full power, he's saying on this, I'm like, okay, like, that's mad.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could tell me what power this car was running, right, but I would never expect it to move the way it moves.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I'd drove fast cars at that point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I put my foot down in this car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm broke.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not know BMWs could move like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, like anyone wants to go back and watch that video.
[SPEAKER_01]: My expressions bro, it was scary for us.
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that I could like assimilate it to at the time was like one of these really higher power horses or a big power GTR.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you felt like that and I'm like he's doing this in a two-foughty.
[SPEAKER_01]: and I guarantee it didn't cost nothing like what the GTR's cost to build.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the Porsche's.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, this is crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've done a few pulls in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, the cars moving around, I'm trying to drive it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, steering wheel on the wrong side of the road, I'm just, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also, it started believing it or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: It started.
[SPEAKER_01]: Drizzling, drizzling, and I've looked at one stop just before we got that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, bro, it's going to be all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'll be all right, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm right.
[SPEAKER_03]: What the hell?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I drove it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a bit sketchy, but I tell you what, that left like the the correct another mile.
[SPEAKER_01]: So moment where it's left and impression of me now, making me forget about all the stress I had with my last beef beef video.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I've got to do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, no one really doing it in the UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's like, bro, listen, believe me, and again, part of this was actually caught on camera, but this is the conversation that we're going on off camera too after.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was, by one, I'm going to help you build it, him in Merrick and Powerhouse.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to, we're going to make you Europe's or UK's fastest M24.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to do it, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to tell you everything you need to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, man, it was after that, flew back to the UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: Connection was made.
[SPEAKER_01]: We kept in contact.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Chris from Osprey Performance, he came on board as the builder, you know, he was here with us FL2K, he's just flown home today and we all jumped on board and the build begun and interesting is quite interesting because you know this car this car started as a is a build alongside one stock if that makes sense but now almost feels like it's a build for him that makes sense in his name right and interestingly when I drove his car he had a black one yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: which he crashed at the track, and then he got the purple one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So some people think I got the purple one after him, but I had the purple one first, and then he crashed his back when he got a purple one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So both I had the purple.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, not trying to say I had it first.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, just that's kind of like the timeline.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I was out in a Seema, and I just remember, like waking up early in Las Vegas one last time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it Seema?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did dinner now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Seems not really my thing man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did didn't look to the bill was done about a day and a half Yeah, and I was out but it wasn't action so I was out But I just remember one morning I couldn't If it felt like the night I woke up, I couldn't sleep and I don't know why I couldn't sleep And
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm one of those people who like, when I'm waking up in the middle of the night and I feel like it could be getting closer to the time I need to wake up, but I still wanna see, I don't wanna look at my phone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just in case it says I've got 12 minutes, still I need to wake up, because you fall back asleep sometimes, you don't know, you might accept the name of my phone.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I like just to not look at my phone, so anyway, I'm tossing and turning for so long in a month.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just look at my phone and see what time is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've looked at my phone, no, my phone's always on silent.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm broke, I've got like 50 messages.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what, and the first message I see
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, for my loss.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm thinking, I've lost someone in my family or some flat is, why is all these random people messaging me?
[SPEAKER_01]: I was so confused.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I had one of the other messages was a video, and it was one sock.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was completely, I was still now, it's baffling, I was speaking to him like a couple of days ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we just built this friendship, and I was gone in something that's like,
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so crazy because it's weird because I know he he loved to do what he was doing when he died.
[SPEAKER_01]: You never want to lose someone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially someone that you had grown to like and you know who they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know how much of a nice guy they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that really, that really for a spanner in the works.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just, yeah, I don't know, man, it was, it was hard because when I speak about him, I don't speak like, I was his best friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm never trying to say that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was, I could call him kind of a new friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: We weren't best friends, and I'm not trying to cloud Chase, I'm saying I knew everything could bite him.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we've been a scene, we've been a cult, he was a new friend who has helped me.
[SPEAKER_01]: So to see such a bright person, we've such a potential, we already knew in a short life, you know how many people you touch or inspired to see that go overnight, it was crazy, it was crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, my BMW now is,
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, and it's added a pressure to it to try and do it for him or in the name of him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're getting there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not right yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've had some issues, you know, I blew up an engine, believe it or not, lifted the head at the end of the track, and we're on a new build now, and we're going to try and fly out our 240 out to FL2, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: But due to a few things, it didn't happen, but it will be going out to the states next year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, we're going to be out here.
[SPEAKER_01]: robbing shoulders with the big boys, yeah, within the category, and as I say, hopefully do the community, the UK and and and and drape out.
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot has changed since he has passed in terms of just a community in general, the inspiration in terms of who's buying these cars now with their doing with them.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like, yeah, when when he was around, he'd inspired a ton of people to get into that platform.
[SPEAKER_04]: And even racing too, like a lot has declined since that.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's tough.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now it is very tough and now and going back to it like you say and like he was inspiring the racers too what was really caused to see the crossover because he predominantly raced on the street right but then I think he was getting calls people saying he can't race on the track his car is not fast on the track so he bought his car to the track and just shut everyone up and maybe open and avenue for people who wanted to get off the street that you know running on the track was quite cool too.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, as you say, man, he's inspired a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he made enough of an impact to leave a lost in memory and a lost in impact on the core culture.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: He said that too, like, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: When you get big enough in anything you do, pretty much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, let's say at least in the car world, and you're sure racing, the only way really out of that is to continue to do things like that, go to the track.
[SPEAKER_04]: because once you get more eyes on you in terms of like sponsorships and so on, a lot of these companies are not going to want you to be free racing.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, of course.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you get to that level where let's say, you know, he was at that level already.
[SPEAKER_04]: He worked with the ton of sponsors and so on, and they were still even sponsoring him knowing that he was free racing.
[SPEAKER_04]: But when you get out of the streets and you go to the track, that's kind of like your way out, you know, because technically if you have a big sponsor that's sponsoring your build and they tell you, look, we don't want your shoe racing, that's your way out.
[SPEAKER_01]: 100% it's, and again, like, don't get me wrong, street racing, it's within the culture.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whether it's what we do in a UK, or what you guys do here in the States, that's what we call real grassroots, because you can't really get a love for racing if you don't have a few tear-ups on the road, like, you know, how do you like it?
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you like it?
[SPEAKER_01]: But realistically, the safe way forward, especially with a car's burn.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like 1500 horsepower cars on a road, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't need a separate license to try and be able to drive that car?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can just hop in it if you've got a budget.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it is, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do not mean, like, people are here with crazy horsepower cars and no talent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, take it to a track, the worst it's going to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably the worst it's going to happen, you're going to hit the wall.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not, I mean, you might write your car off, but you're not going to kill someone.
[SPEAKER_01]: You probably won't die if you've got the right safety equipment, probably.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just a lot, it's a safer environment, and your car's going to go faster too.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not mean, but again, a lot of people see it as unacceptable because you might have to pay a little fee to sign onto a way to the track.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not on your time.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to go when a track opens, when it closes, there's rules, there's regs to a certain extent.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it is hard, but again, from a market in standpoint, yeah, man, I mean, that's where you're going to get a sponsor.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't want to sponsor you when you're going and crashing into someone else and potentially risk it like a liability.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so on the track is where it's at, really, or on something like I do, it's a bit of a kind of a best of both, which is non-prep on a runway, run your street tires.
[SPEAKER_01]: Your car will run as it runs on the street, no prep, run your car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever it is, off the street is probably going to be better.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got appreciate the culture.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got appreciate we all being there and this is how it started So yeah, it's it's a tough one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wish I wish we had more like airships like how you guys have over there There are some in Florida But I don't see them being used too often.
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess for like the bigger events.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but it'd be cool to do something like Adam at a airship like this You have all the space on the sides in case something happens 100% 100% like you know on my wrong way So luckily we barely have people go all full crash, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we had one car go off, it was a super, a big pair of super, actually, it's like 1500 horsepower, well, maybe 1200 horsepower, but you run 1500 on kill.
[SPEAKER_01]: And these went off the track, and all that happened is it skidded for a long time, and then the wheels dug in into the grass, and the car nearly went over, but then it come back down.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's as good as bad as it's got, should we say.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, there's nothing to hit, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you're lucky if the car rolls,
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, you're unlucky if the car rolls, but apart from that, it's a lot safer.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what I do want to do, one thing I massively have in my head to do is to come over here and do some of my style racing over here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to do the OG Battles Florida or the OG Battles U.S.
[SPEAKER_01]: Get some of you boys, like, running no prep, running down, and then effort.
[SPEAKER_01]: If we can find one to do it, I'll even do it, actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind, I just want to bring that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to mix the two cultures over, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can put some more kind of a spotlight.
[SPEAKER_01]: to what goes on over here and your level of builds back to the UK and likewise cross over.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is sick.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: There was another story early on when you had bought an Audi Quattro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Quattro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you bought this Audi and what I wanted to have happening with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So interesting, this is actually before I bought my first diesel BMW, which we touched on right at the beginning.
[SPEAKER_01]: So in the UK we've got a place called car giant.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it kind of is what it says in the name, it's such like a massive forecourt that sells hundreds of cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: And my kind of, my draw to car giant was, how, what is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what do you mean what does a cod giant like as in like a giant like giant giant so it's the English accent Pod giant is probably my terrible English to like you know my slang hard giant okay, but yeah, so
[SPEAKER_01]: My daughter car giant was the fact that you could go there in the morning, pick a car and drive away with it in the afternoon without having any money pretty much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you need to just like a 200 pounds deposit and you can find actually a life away pretty much.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I can get that finance deal like over the line in a number of hours that they can make things move really quick.
[SPEAKER_01]: So almost zero deposit and then you can have.
[SPEAKER_01]: as much as you can afford monthly to pay like, and I loved how quick you could do it, like I'm very impulsive, you see.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if I went somewhere and I had to wait a week to get it, I might change my mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I can buy it that day, let's go.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was my affiliation with car giant, but there's always stories or was stories about car giant, I've not having the best reputation for the cars being in the best conditions or things being checked
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw this Audi A5, totally a TDI Quattro that I just, I fell in love with and again this is, it was a diesel and this is on a down moment where I've kind of, I want to get out the car scene because I'm home and it's just like the perfect all-round car and it was quite funny because it's quite funny because it's
[SPEAKER_01]: driving this car and I remember driving it in the snow and and I remember having that quattro badge on my car and I'm like I've got the quattro and it's so crazy bro because in the snow this car was moving well for the snow and I'm like the quattro baby I remember even done on my private account I even done a post I was like snow zero quattro wife yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: And this will make sense why you're laughing in a second here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember I was at the lights once, a race one guy, and I went off the lights, and he was like, yeah man, you beat me out, he goes, your front wheels are spinning like mad, it's crazy, and I was like, okay, that's just how it must go like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And going back to obviously being a mechanic, diesel mechanic, I fought one day, let me serve, it's a call, let me drop the oil out, or check over, underneath the car, I can't remember what I was doing, it's years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I pulled this car over the pits,
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't fool drive cars usually have something that connects the front of the car to the back of the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, some way of transfering the drive from the front to the back and I couldn't find it, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, maybe it's in and up above the exhaust pipe or something like, bro, it transpired this car didn't have four wheel drive, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not a quattro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you know what's crazy, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've went home and I've looked at the logbook and that's got the quattro badges on it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've looked at the logbook.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not sure what the title, you might call out a title.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they are official papers at a car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Only official papers it says, 2D are TDI, Quattro.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, what has happened here?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they've sold me something that they thought was a Quattro.
[SPEAKER_01]: But essentially, I've been sold something.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been, would you call that?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's false advertisement, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: To a certain extent, it's got to be classed as false advertisement.
[SPEAKER_01]: But by this time, I think I'd put like 3, 4,000 miles on the clock.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I've been driving a car around, like a long time before I'd found it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So here's me thinking, like, again, I'm impulsive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's me thinking, all right, what I could probably do is I could bring this car back.
[SPEAKER_01]: They give me all the money back, and I'd buy something else cool, like, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I went back there.
[SPEAKER_01]: They took the car in, they expected it to say, you know what, you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't know how this is happened, but as you said, it says it on the logbook, it says it on the title, so how will we to know like, you know, we don't, it just, it's just got missed, so I was like, all right, cool, just giving my money back, and we're fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was like, you've done 4,000 miles in this car, it's not worth what you paid, or we can't give you all the money back kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they went away, they said, let's see what we can do.
[SPEAKER_01]: And come back and they said, the best we can do is give you 500 pounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: to cover the difference.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what 500 pounds?
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, yeah, the difference between a quadro and a front wheel drive is only 500 pounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: It'd probably like $750.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, ah, then I was like, you know, beggars can't be choosers.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got the car already.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty happy with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I spent that money on getting the car remapped.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But a year later now, I went back to car giant because I've seen something I like.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've rocked up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've went like, wanted to do a part X.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what you got to pull X, I said I've got this shiny, Tuli, a TDI, quadro here, you might want to buy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm okay, cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what, they took it back off me thinking it was a culture.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I made the culture and money back in the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: So someone right now is probably driving that car around.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you're not a mechanic, you never went under the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: You probably never find out, like, you know, someone probably driving that car around right now, not even knowing that it's not a culture.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're not.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're probably an even cat.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't even know.
[SPEAKER_01]: They probably is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, so yeah, it was a kind of a, yeah, full circle moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great, that's great, that's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so so you've had to after that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm probably sure you've always checked under the card I make sure you Well, I'm big you know what I think my knowledge you live in learn you live in learn When people are telling you your front wheels is spinning when you're pulling off the line and everything's like that like you kind of live and learn And also now you know, I know what a four-wheel drive car should be doing off-line But yeah, now it's definitely a learning curve.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know
[SPEAKER_04]: So from those days, you know, you, you went from those, those, those are stories of cars to now picking up a McLaren, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to McLaren.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So now McLaren's are, I'm not sure what if they're still known for having electrical problems issues.
[SPEAKER_04]: But hearing all this stuff about these cars, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that something that you thought about prior to producing or more of a flexing words?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to McLaren, this is the cryo one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't care about what the problems are.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just want to learn McLaren.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a bit of both.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very hard headed also.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if I like...
[SPEAKER_01]: I might ask people's opinion on the car, but I'm getting it anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that I've got to, like, I might, like, regardless of if you think I'm getting a car.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I went into it knowing, obviously it's a British brand, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have quite a lot of them over here in the UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know the horror series.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know everything that can go wrong and does generally go wrong with the cars, but
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, it was like, and also, the interesting thing is, it's not only the problem, it's the build quality that people talk about to the fit and finish, and this is coming off the back of only two 9-11 Turbo Ss or 9-11 Turbo S, and then another 9-11 Turbo S, and then moving onto the McLaren.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Porsche, refinement and build quality is second to none, in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly go as far as saying that is like Porsche makes the best fit and finish and all round cause, right out there personally.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd say.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then in my head I'm thinking right now I'm going to move into this uncharted territory that I could possibly have a car that goes wrong and so on and so forth.
[SPEAKER_01]: I knew it was there, but I was quite hard-headed, but at the same time couldn't buy another Porsche car, I'd done it twice over, and I wanted to do something else, and I just wanted to change, and a 600LT was something that I hadn't seen a lot of people tuning, and I had a UK at least.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought, you know what, I've got, hopefully, if things go wrong, I've got a support structure around me that can, you know, make things right, let me just go for it, hard-headed, like, you know what I mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I've had to call, I want to say about
[SPEAKER_01]: up into about four months ago, no problems at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was always everyone crying about, like, you know, I mean, and a fit and finish is pretty good, but you've got to know what you're buying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you go into it thinking you're going to get Porsche, refinement and quality, it's not that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're pretty much buying like a bit of a track car, a bit of a race car, and they're built for a purpose.
[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't got all the bells in the whistles, but they're very race car.
[SPEAKER_01]: They come alive on a track like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: You feel like you're in a super car, like, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, I had the car drop back to me because it was getting some like updates down to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: When it was dropped back to me, I went to open a passenger door and a passenger door didn't open.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, oh, unlock the car to the person it was in the car and they're like, it's unlocked.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just wouldn't open.
[SPEAKER_01]: The house got in on.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've kind of went in the car, they tried to lean across open it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the car's not opening from,
[SPEAKER_01]: did a cut from the inside.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I opened from the inside.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember, basically the button in the outside wasn't working, so that's a bit strange, but anyway, I'll have it looked at.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so I've hopped in the car and I've went to reverse it and my drive's quite steep, so I have to use the lift to get it up otherwise it bottoms up.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've went to press the lift.
[SPEAKER_01]: the dash isn't working, like the dash is like not frozen, but no commands are working on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is very strange.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I've went to turn the AC on, AC's not working, broke, and then it just got deeper and deeper, like nothing was working on this car.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm so annoyed, I'm like, here we go, my Clarence problems, how much is this going to cost?
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, I brought it to ESMA at the guys who basically built my Porsche.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got some knowledge with my Clarence too, and they took the battery off for half an hour, put it back on, cause running perfect, absolutely fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's pretty much the only problem I had, but it come out of nowhere and went away, just like that, so.
[SPEAKER_04]: what made you want to choose the McLaren best-specific model over something else?
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, it was what will people
[SPEAKER_01]: What will people jump on board with?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I get a Lamborghini, everyone's going to think of an idiot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's going to think, come, flossy, and I'm trying to be someone special, they say at the other.
[SPEAKER_01]: But also, I must say, based on my personal preference to what I like, like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, going back to Lamborghini's.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm buying a Lamborghini, you know I've got a tune it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: That means I've got a twin turbo with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That means I've got a Chase Big Power.
[SPEAKER_01]: to be someone to make headlines in the v10 game, how much power do I have to make?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're not mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to spend that kind of money.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we know, like, these guys I spend in a half a million dollars like trying to get these cars fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: So essentially, all right, cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I might get 1800 horsepower, v10, all right, cool, but...
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in a grand scheme of things, you know, one at that power.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's a cool car, fast car, you're not, you're not one of the big dogs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's thinking about what's going to work for content.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I like, what people are going to gravitate towards.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but Lambo was on the list of maybe's.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, then it was for Rory.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was looking at the Ferrari 480 Italian, because again, not a lot of people too knows.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, it's $600, and I actually made a little bit of a series as well as like picking a car.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I went to test drive each one, sorry, and just kind of give the pros and cons and my feedback and a feel on the cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've got to say, the McLaren gave me the best feel and feedback.
[SPEAKER_01]: It felt the most super car-ish, the Ferrari was a little bit soft.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Lamborghini was great, but I went out in a hurricane purf, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, this is hard not to want, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like, it's like a Gucci product, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one that makes the girls take the panties off.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one you pull up outside the club, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: But I've got to look at a bigger picture, as I say, and like, what's right for me?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think it was right car, so out of the free.
[SPEAKER_01]: the McLaren made the most sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: And my, my target was to tune up a McLaren to like a thousand wheel horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, this is kind of where, where my mindset was that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And people are probably right now who, kind of been following this journey, which has been a little bit quiet for a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm probably thinking why am I saying was that?
[SPEAKER_01]: And it might even be news to them, for me to say that I wanted a thousand break horsepower with horsepower, whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: But,
[SPEAKER_01]: The longer I have this car, so it's Stage 2 tuned by now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, it's Stage 2 tuned now.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's 775 brake horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like 680-ish at the wheel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, the car's fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: The car is fast, and it's such a capable car.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder,
[SPEAKER_01]: will I ruin it with more power?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think back to all these other builds I have thousand plus break horsepower cars that will be able to put the power down to and I'm like do I need another potential headache?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be cool to say I've got that power.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what am I building in with a 1000 will horsepower 600 LT because it's not a quarter mile car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Could be a half mile car but it's going to be faster half mile cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: street car, all it's going to do is spin when I try to put the power down, cause we're full drive maybe half the power going to beat me to the eighth, right, easy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what am I trying to do?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got all these things going from my head right now, what I really want to do with this car.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, I'm indices as hell, like my head changes and my mind changes, like the weather, like the English weather, which is all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I might tell you this now, my next video, I might be, look at my 1,000 war horse bear, I'm a clown.
[SPEAKER_01]: However, right now, my mindset is, let me just keep it like, how it is for a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just mesh with the car, see what it does.
[SPEAKER_01]: It runs pretty strong times too, like, for what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just see what it does.
[SPEAKER_01]: I might keep it out as full now, full now.
[SPEAKER_04]: When you guys stay stage two.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I noticed.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't find it in the tune because I know obviously you're not.
[SPEAKER_04]: People will question your knowledge based off of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I guess it depends on the car technically.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because when you're in the exotics, you say stages, I guess.
[SPEAKER_04]: Secondly or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a massive advocate for stages.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Stages can be interpreted, interpreted, interpreted, people can interpret them differently.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think stages work to a certain extent and what my ideal of stages are or what I believe stages are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say a goal for, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So a stage one would be no hardware, just a tune, ECU tune, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Stage two would probably be
[SPEAKER_01]: full boltons, but no turbo chain.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: You see this way it gets hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'm gonna go with what it says.
[SPEAKER_01]: So full boltons, but stock turbo.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be a stage two.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then stage three would be turbo, also with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be class of stage three.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's generally kind of within that community, I think I might as well say in what the stages are.
[SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to different cars, it changes.
[SPEAKER_01]: But generally, I would say, anything where you've got to change hardware like the downpipe, you're moving into stage two kind of territory.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: After that, when it goes like, when you stop building the engine,
[SPEAKER_01]: It's stage has got to win though, because you're now into Bill Engine territory.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Things change.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that can be stage.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no stage here.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've just got a Bill Engine and whatever else you've got.
[SPEAKER_01]: But with the McLaren, downpipes and a tune.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause I guess,
[SPEAKER_01]: with my logic, you could just have a stock hardware on a McLaren stock exhaust and a tune.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the next stage, which would be the stage on, which is being stage two, downpipes and a tune.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what's the highest stage you would go to technically in your head?
[SPEAKER_04]: So, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know, yeah, it's gonna open a kind of worms, but no, it would be stage 3.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't go any faster stage 3, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, for clickbait, for clickbait, back in a day, I think I did post someone's car being a stage 4.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I might have even went stage 5, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows, but no, it's definitely not right.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's stage 3.
[SPEAKER_01]: And within those categories that I've said, which is upgraded to a bowl and pretty much anything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as soon as you're building your engine, the stage is in my opinion, I've got it with the interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it doesn't have to be exotic, it could be anything, anything generally, generally.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, if it hasn't, like, for instance, a naturally aspirated car, I don't, I don't think stages work because you can't gain the same power in stages, like you can offer turbo or a supercharged car kind of.
[SPEAKER_04]: What if you did, uh, cams?
[SPEAKER_04]: People, because that's, that's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's stage one, stage one, stage one.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could, because yeah, you're stage one, stage two, cams, and again, this is what I mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: It opens a massive kind of worms.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, whether you go back within a naturally aspirated world, which I don't have the most amount of knowledge in.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do have a K-24 DC200, which is naturally aspirated.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I've never heard people talk about naturally aspirated cars in stages.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's kind of a, it is a modern phenomenon of people talking about cars in stages.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, terminology too.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's crazy because back then stages were big with clutches, so it's like now It's like if you say anything stage related with anything whether it's clutches performance It's like you don't know where you're talking.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I think I think there's a right time and place for stages and I also think sometimes
[SPEAKER_01]: It's easy for people who are deep in the game like ourselves, like when we go for these big crazy builds to kind of look down on people who talk about stages because they're not really in this life like we are, you know what I mean and we're out there going crazy and stages are like we're talking so basically
[SPEAKER_01]: baby food there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, that's like work and then again, like, it's usually older generation saying that could have stuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because other people with more money and potentially the people who've been in it, who were to build these kind of crazy cars and yeah, I don't know man, I just feel like, yeah, stages are a little bit of like a, yeah, I want to go too deep into it, but they have their place.
[SPEAKER_01]: not always right.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you call to see a Lambo with 2,000 horsepower, see if we got a stage 26 bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's the thing, you know, like with something naturally aspirated and then you turbo, there's, it can't be a stage there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean bro, that's just, so yeah, in some applications it works.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, you do all this content, of course, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: You've been filming for about six, seven years, right, roughly.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, doing content is tough.
[SPEAKER_04]: Of course, you're traveling, you're doing features, and so on, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Where do you see yourself in the next five years with what you're doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting, you all set.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's actually interesting, because just yesterday I did a randomly, my friend James, non-call guy, he asked me that question.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like,
[SPEAKER_01]: And I have been asked that question before, not for a while, and I feel like someone who's kind of got the kind of following that I've got in YouTube and it's moving at a good pace, should really have a five-year plan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be real, I don't, but what I do want to do, and what I always will continue to do is push on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Push on up the levels, whether it be quality of the content, quality of the production, quality of the builds,
[SPEAKER_01]: It's to continue to push on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, within YouTube, I don't know how drastically I can change what I'm doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could definitely take a left turn and try something different or right turn and try something different, but we know if you change too much.
[SPEAKER_01]: your OG content, sorry, your OG subscribers, like the content they used to, it might not, like I would take with them, or like they might not like it and you might actually kind of take a back step trying to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's always quite hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm trying to do what I'm doing, but just make it feel fresh, moving forward.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where do I want to be?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do I still want to be doing YouTube?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think YouTube is becoming TV or what we used to look at as TV.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's taking the place of TV.
[SPEAKER_01]: I only think it's going to get bigger.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's a bad space to spend a lot of time in as a career.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's, I think it's got a bright future.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I always want to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do I want to work as hard as I am right now in YouTube five years from now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably not.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's just me trying to work smarter and harder.
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe align in some things a little bit better and just making things work a little bit more smoothly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got some businesses.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have Gaston Track, which I'm wearing a t-shirt for right now, which is a big event we do in the UK at Silverstone, which is kind of a celebration of automotive culture, where it brings your drag races together, your circuit races together, your drift races, your...
[SPEAKER_01]: You're showing shine.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's every figure.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's literally bringing everyone together in one place.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's action, action, action.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got something for everyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we see that really, really growing with two years deep.
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, with more than two years deep, but two official years deep into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've done some smaller ones before.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've got a really good recipe right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We see that growing massively.
[SPEAKER_01]: So within the next five years, that would be something that I'd love to see blossom.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to see
[SPEAKER_01]: double triple the footfall that we get coming me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Silverstones like the home with British Motorsport 2 so it is the right venue for growth.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to see that grow and right now there does seem like there's great potential so if I could say anything I plan to happen, I want to see that grow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see that free exit if we could and
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, really push on in that, but bro, I love cause and I'm always going to be pushing a boundary doing mad stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: So within the next five years, yeah, people can expect more basically, just more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know.
[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, this has been great.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think where I'm doing two hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, two hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, that is crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you know what crazy thing is, I told you bro, I'm camera.
[SPEAKER_01]: Once you get me going, but it didn't feel like it, it did not, but you know what, I always get this, when you'll speak and passionately
[SPEAKER_01]: It's easy to talk, and it's easy to get into conversation because the interest in this is crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is absolutely incredible.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can feel it in my throat, because you know what, as I say, I pause it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're going to move on, you've got to be broke.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to get it out, but yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, as I said, I'll start fumbling and mumbling.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so I know I've been going for a walk and start fumbling and mumbling my words We have a good conversation.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this is great, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I think it's great because we pose I posted that photo on my story And then some people had commented replying to the story saying oh, that's your twin.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I guess we're both
[SPEAKER_04]: But both lights can do, so we're not having to say, I'm not Chinese people, we're not having to say, we're all at the same.
[SPEAKER_04]: But there's people who'll say, I love watching both of you, you know, you're fighting.
[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, I'm a podcast channel and you do like reviews and car stuff, so it's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a good, and also we're probably people that came from a similar background as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's cool to see that, you know, we're like, my individual is doing the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, this is the thing I've realized.
[SPEAKER_01]: being lucky enough to travel the world and to the states.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we're all the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're all the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: And especially if you're talking about a passion, we speak exactly the same language.
[SPEAKER_01]: Terminology is might be slightly different, but we're talking about the things we hold dearest, man, we are all the same, like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and that makes it a lot easier.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you've just gone back to it like, and I'm just so happy that people in the states,
[SPEAKER_01]: are with me, back in, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's flying 400, sorry, four and a half thousand miles over seas, sometimes you don't know what people are going to be like, you know what I mean like, how they receive you, but it's been nothing but love since I've been here so yeah, now I'm happy you're here man, happy you're here, thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you leave two days right, two days, yeah, yeah, so you're going to go to Disney, Disney, Disney, Disney, Disney, Disney, Disney, Disney, Disney.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've got my business partner here, you can't, you gotta hit Disney if you're in Florida.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to Disney, I kind of want to go Disney.
[SPEAKER_01]: But who wants to go to Disney?
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, like, it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we're going to Disney tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to explore that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been to Universal.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's our only like, we had one like off day in Disney's two weeks so far.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we went Universal.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we done that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do Disney, and we're going to chill.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, hopefully you guys enjoy your time there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Disney is awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's perfect time with this.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're around this time of the year because the weather, so you should be alright.
[SPEAKER_04]: You should be okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: But even though it was hot and I felt okay in Tampa, it was pretty hot that day.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you might be fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because you said you never experienced this kind of weather, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, I've been to the States.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I felt Texas eat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I felt California's eat.
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt the varnancy, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's something about the heat here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's thick.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's humid.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could almost swim.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, bro, you know what you know, you could cut it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it feels like bro, the heat hits me differently And it's quite funny because people look at me and they're like oh, you're black You should be able to take this kind of heat, but I'm black, but I'm from England Bro, like if we have like a normal day in Florida, okay That's on the news bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, people are dying There's weather warnings.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's wild like so I want ready for the heat the heat's mad I love everything about this place, but a heat might just be a little bit too mad Yeah, it is sometimes it could be a woman.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but you'll be all right
[SPEAKER_04]: So, if you can let the viewers and listeners know where to find your content and where they can keep up with anything you have going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, so it's officially guest on all platforms, you'll find me officially guest on Instagram, officially guest OG on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's, I said all platforms.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's Jamie OG officially guest on TikTok.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's put it much up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I will have his content in the link below in the description as well to his channel.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you guys can check out all of his content.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everything we spoke about a lot of the races and so on.
[SPEAKER_04]: And a lot of his builds, which you guys will see more of in the future.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much for making this happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much for your time and the hospitality of, you know, giving us a place to film.
[SPEAKER_04]: My pleasure to appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_04]: So happy you came to Florida and also to America.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, once again, be a part of the culture.
[SPEAKER_04]: And hopefully one day I can make it over to UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: 100% we got you when you come, we got you and we got a big love for Street Alpha in a UK to bring you, you're doing big things.
[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate it, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So thanks again, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for your time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll catch you guys on the next one.
[SPEAKER_04]: Peace.