[SPEAKER_03]: And oh, it sounds wild because it's just a dance, but you change these people's lives because they're feeling good about themselves.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're learning about themselves.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're going out in front of millions of people and just, you know, enjoying the process and you make a really cool relationship along the way and friendship that truly lasts.
[SPEAKER_03]: forever.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what the audience assumes, but like for a lane it's it's not easy, but she's putting in so much work.
[SPEAKER_00]: She makes it look easy.
[SPEAKER_03]: She makes it look easy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was in the crowd for the Mickey one and seeing everybody have the pom pom.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: When things just come together like that, again, you can plan certain things.
[SPEAKER_00]: animals.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll take it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll pretend.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you ever envision it next to your other one?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's where you're going.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope so.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love I. Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a dream to just be a part of the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the goal is to get a mirror of all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where do you have yours now?
[SPEAKER_03]: Mine's so when you walk into my living room.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have like two book shelves, ones on top, my mirror balls on the left, and then I did dance when the stars junior's in one, and that's a little mirror star.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's on the right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then where would you put the other one?
[SPEAKER_00]: I would get another bookcase.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is your 10th year on dance with the stars.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Glad you did research it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It just, the time flies by.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't, it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know my life without it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe it's already been 10 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Were you doing it when there was two seasons in a year?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so when I first started, I joined season 20.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was, I was on Troop.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was two seasons a year.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you did Troop twice that year?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I did Troop up until season 25.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm gonna bring a special guest today.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't wait to hear his dance experience.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get up here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Special guest Jeff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good boy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you take us back to the day that you got called up from troop to be a professional dancer?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, if first happened, I would say really got set into motion season 24.
[SPEAKER_03]: Max was dancing with Heather Morris and Max got injured.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I stepped in with Heather Morris for like three or four weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: And those are the first time I got a choreographed dance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Were you comfortable?
[SPEAKER_03]: I was scared, but I was around all of these incredible pros for like, four, two or three years, because the two seasons a year.
[SPEAKER_03]: And everyone just helps each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like my first time I remember just getting in the room with somebody and they were just like helping me out, you know, just like obviously I knew what I wanted to do, but your first time is so scary, but then I felt like I was more prepared for when I was a pro because I had that experience.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you got to train with all these different dancers.
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you think your time on the show is grown from when you first became a pro to now?
[SPEAKER_03]: I've definitely got more confident in my choreography and my ability to teach because it's hard.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's hard to teach a different type of person every single season.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you can't just expect to do the same thing you did last year.
[SPEAKER_03]: and you just have to be malleable, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to be able to adjust on the fly.
[SPEAKER_03]: You could choreograph something and then walk in and be like, oh, this isn't working, or this is too easy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so you just have to adjust on the fly.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you hear a song, can you already figure out the moves in your head of where it needs to go on in the ballroom?
[SPEAKER_03]: When I hear a song, I know what style it is right away.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then like, whether or not it's going to be a good dance.
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously that takes, you know, creating the steps.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I know like the movement of the floor really well.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's it like when you in a lane first met?
[SPEAKER_03]: It was awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: She walked in the door.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was so excited.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone on the cast this season was so good.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when we were starting to meet her partners, say, oh, this person's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was everyone's incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when she walked in, we instantly connected.
[SPEAKER_03]: She brought so much joy with her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you could see her just walking and just be happy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it's been that this whole time and I feel so lucky, because the season can get really hard and learning new dances and rehearsing every day.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when somebody wants to be in the room and wants to learn and is loving it, it's like the best feeling ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's really inspirational and you could feel the chemistry between the two of you.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like Elaine is
[SPEAKER_03]: truly just remarkable, not just with her dancing, but with her personality, her attitude, her driving ambition, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think because she hasn't danced in 30 years, she misses it and like is leaving everything out on that floor and I think it shows.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope it shows.
[SPEAKER_00]: It definitely does.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is that like for you as a choreographer to have somebody who wants to be there that's going to put in the practice?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm going to start by saying I've always had really good partners that always want to be there and try.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, it's, it's just a blessing, you know, we don't get to choose our partners and I get really lucky, you know, with Elaine, with Elona, with all of these past partners that I've had, it's been such incredible seasons, whether they win, make the finals or get eliminated early, the experience has always been good.
[SPEAKER_00]: do you focus on each week and just that week only with them?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because that's the most important thing in the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because you don't know if you're going to make it past that next week.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it would be a waste of time to start doing something else.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you get eliminated like instead of just working on that week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, those drink that's for you if you have a water.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I might.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you in a lame really start to get comfortable, are you understanding the way that she moves in her strengths and her weaknesses and what you As the professional can really highlight for her 1,000% you really get to know somebody really fast Especially when you're dancing with them every day and even by that's first week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, obviously the more you go on like a week to already like, oh, I know when I'm choreographing this is going to be a strong suit or maybe this is difficult.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I Elaine is somebody that I walk in.
[SPEAKER_03]: I try to, in general, I try to really create dances for my celebrities, not just to just create dances.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I try to do a really good job of that and so far with Elaine, it's working, you know, I think her personality, her incredible abilities are coming out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: you know, came to life.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can teach her in the studios and she can do it really well and she does really well.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like going live and putting it on the stage and just living in the moment is up to the celebrity and she's doing such a great job.
[SPEAKER_00]: She looks like she's having the best time.
[SPEAKER_03]: She is like, I am too.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just we go out there and we set the intention to just be happy and
[SPEAKER_03]: a lot less pressure and stress.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's scary.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's it like for you when you realize you're going to be in the makeup?
[SPEAKER_00]: Does that affect your dance at all?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, the scary part is you don't get to try the makeup until it's live.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it showed a makeup.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even, yeah, even dress rehearsal isn't in makeup.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, luckily this one was a lot easier than when I was
[SPEAKER_03]: The donkey was like a mask and like I couldn't see I couldn't hear and it was like one of those things Where I was like in theory.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's gonna be great.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're gonna you put it on to my I can't breathe like I'm getting anxiety.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, like why am I doing this?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you watch I think you should leave
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry to realize I always do weird characters on Disney, not on Halloween.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, the Disney is my Halloween.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, even when I was a Jesse James Decker, I was Billy Butcherson.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now again, prosthetics, I was a zombie, I was like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, from Hocus Focus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like it just Disney is like my night to be the weird one.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's so funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you can you walk us through on the show day?
[SPEAKER_00]: You do your dance.
[SPEAKER_00]: You get your judges scores.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's just you waiting for eliminations.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you what are you thinking about during that time?
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like the big thing is it's unknown.
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't know if people are voting for you.
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't know how many votes.
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't know who's going home.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's zero indication.
[SPEAKER_03]: And all you can really do is just be proud of what you've done.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so after you dance and you do a good job and you feel good,
[SPEAKER_03]: and you get good scores or even if you don't, it's like, we did that, let's not focus on what we can't control.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I really want to emphasize that because why worry about something that you can't control or be that you even know about, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: You put your best foot forward and exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: And everyone is so good this season that it's like, whenever somebody goes home, you're like,
[SPEAKER_03]: It's heartbreaking, but also like, yeah, everyone is vulnerable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no one that has like a safe week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you can't just like coast by, I think this season.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this season, everyone has to bring their best foot forward.
[SPEAKER_00]: Being on the show for 10 seasons, if somebody has one bad misstep, cannot really affect the chances of you making it to the next week with the judge's score, just from past experiencing that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think this season more than ever, because the competition is so strong.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think like even like the example of Brandon and Lauren like they were still amazing and it wasn't like she did a bad job, but I just for whatever reason they had lower scores and that made them be vulnerable and they went home, which is a shock obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's what's so cool about the shows.
[SPEAKER_00]: You really have no idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's cool, but also scary.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because like you really don't have any idea and like again, you hope you can hope that people are voting.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you're voting, thank you, please keep voting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen the show a couple times now live in person, and I love seeing you guys run back up to this guy booth and everyone's just celebrating with each other and cheering at, cheering each other on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so positive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that's one of the cool things about the shows, even though it's a competition, everyone's so supportive.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, everyone is literally
[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody's wishing that somebody messes up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone's hoping that everyone does incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that competition is ramped up a lot this season?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that because of last season built it up?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think last season just propelled that this season into a different universe.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I also think the talent, the celebrities, the pros, everyone's really stepping up.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's because the celebrities are so strong.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The pros have to keep doing a better job.
[SPEAKER_03]: because these celebrities are just incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: Could you talk about the other celebrities for a minute?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who has blown you away?
[SPEAKER_00]: Just as for yourself being a professional dancer, who really like, wow, that person has skills.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think everyone, and this is going to sound like very...
[SPEAKER_03]: media train, but it's not everyone's really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can talk about everyone like Alex had an incredible dance last week.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, a Maleficent, the Vinny's Waltz was incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: Val did such a good job with her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whitney and Mark are always incredible, you know, like their dancing is unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_03]: Andy and Emma, they bring out such a good personality and like you just want to root for him, um, you have, um, no, I have to name everyone on the list of you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, you have like, Jen and Yann, who she, she has no dance experience and is going out there and killing it, Danielle and Pasha are just like, she is so lovable.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody has something which is so cool exactly like I'm going to have to keep going otherwise I want to feel like every one has something whether it's their dancing or whether it's their personality or their ability to make people feel something the charisma the showmanship is all there exactly What is it like for you when you finish your routine you think you did a great job now it's just you and the judges and they're all just going to give you that critique
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, you know, again, you don't sometimes, you know, like, oh, that didn't go well or like in your head, you're like, yeah, we did mess up that one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's everyone's difference.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I can't speak on everyone, but like for the most for me, Elaine knock-on would has crushed every dance and it's like, you just, you see her go out there and she's killing it and she's in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think what the reason
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going well is because she, like I said, is just putting her best foot forward.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's enjoying the moment as opposed to stressing about the moment, because when you start stressing about things, your mind wanders and you're not in it, you're not present.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think being present is the most important thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when you finished the dance and you did it, you're like, we did it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't even matter what the scores are.
[SPEAKER_03]: You did it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You had a hard week this week and you accomplished it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's it's a feeling of just like joy and relief going back into the ballroom.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know one of your favorite locations is crafty.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, yes, this season I'm not eating is I'm not eating as many snacks, but I still it's my safe place.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there something that you look forward to there that they just have?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, right now I'm I'm really into like a Coke zero really.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Diet Coke Coke zero.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like a zero in a bagel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, listen.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not eating bagels right now, but that is my my main source of joy.
[SPEAKER_00]: What kind of bagel everything?
[SPEAKER_03]: Everything bagel with cream cheese and a little smoke salmon toast it on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hasn't right there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't when I go to New York I literally go on like a bagel tour.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you had pop up bagels?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they rip it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You dip it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: In New York my favorite is Brooklyn bagels.
[SPEAKER_03]: Brooklyn bagels and checky and then also There's one I think it's called like Apollo bagels
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm thinking of Appalonia pizza here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Appalonia pizza, but Apollo bagels.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like it's the same as courage bagels here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, same owner.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's the same like vibe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Open face.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you big pizza guy?
[SPEAKER_03]: I am a big pizza guy, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love pizza.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a favorite one out there?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I feel like the classic one is Joe's.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but then like a good one.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many I can't remember I'm a big mulberry pizza guy here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never had it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's on Ventura.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really good.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple locations Is it good?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a black New York style.
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard Apple Lonea here's the best.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to go with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Only open a certain few hours.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a huge line.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how you know they're good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: When they get to choose their own hours.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have week five coming up dedication night.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Elaine's dedicating it to Lisa and Walter Jeff Chessie from parent trap.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything planned special that you have that you can allude that maybe we should be looking out for?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're going to see it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not being subtle with this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this is just incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's iconic.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like truly like on the luckiest person.
[SPEAKER_03]: I get Jesse and Meredith to be in a dance with me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, their friendship is is so cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeff is freaking out over here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeff, you say hi.
[SPEAKER_03]: Say hi.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, good boy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, go down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, their friendship is so cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they've been friends for 28 years.
[SPEAKER_03]: They met on the set of parent trap and the first day just connected and they've been best for instance.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so having them in the studio is so fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they obviously feed off each other's energy, but they're energy.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they're energy.
[SPEAKER_03]: But
[SPEAKER_03]: my energy with the lane is already amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you add a Lisa and Walter in there and it's like, this is just explosive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's so much fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're so funny and they're inside jokes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's really cool to witness.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of my favorite things is when I get a podcast, I'm really excited about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I have something even though it's just this little digital video thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is that like for you and you have a dance that you're just so proud of?
[SPEAKER_00]: You got these two stars together for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does it feel like you did something special?
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do it first, still early in the week.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm very excited.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, to me, it's just such a, it's like a home run of a dance because the music is from parent trap.
[SPEAKER_03]: I get the two stars.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, it's really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: So no matter what happens, I'm just like, I'm so happy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you guys get to pick your music this season?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes and no, you're like, the celebrities get to choose a lot, but they don't know what they're choosing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they get given like a questionnaire and it's like, what's your favorite song if you had, like, what is your favorite wicked song, you know?
[SPEAKER_03]: But then it gets chosen like based off what dance you have to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: So sometimes the song fits perfectly, sometimes you have to make it work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a favorite dance song?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Argentine Tango.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love Argentine Tango.
[SPEAKER_03]: Funny enough, I'm certainly love quick step.
[SPEAKER_00]: The way you performed it this week was so good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I feel like quick step in like last year with a loan of the quick step was like a big turning point for us.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm starting to really like, I feel like the high energy dances are really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm liking the quick step.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that a dance that you were doing before you got on the show, too?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I competed in an all 10 style.
[SPEAKER_03]: And all both ballroom and lad in the 10 style.
[SPEAKER_00]: Were you competing against your brother, too?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, so you do it by age, and he's seven years old seven.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I never got a computer against him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does he still dance today?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he is a remarkable dancer.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm using the word remarkable.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a remarkable word.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good word.
[SPEAKER_03]: Him and his wife, they do rhythm and they're in the finals in the world.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they're really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're like top six in the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: What competitions are they in?
[SPEAKER_03]: They, so they do, again, all over the world, like every weekend,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, have you ever done stuff like that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I used to compete when up until, so I did, so you think you'd dance when I turned 18 or 19?
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I was competing up until then.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then once I started, so you think you'd dance and dancing on the stars, obviously I did not have time to compete.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is it like for you now when you're doing the tour?
[SPEAKER_03]: tour is one of the best feelings ever.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel it's a big celebration.
[SPEAKER_03]: You just go out there and you dance for thousands of people who are just such fans of the show and there's no stress, there's no pressure, no one goes home.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like you get to do what you love, you get to dance and you get to do it and share this art form with thousands of people every night.
[SPEAKER_00]: every week they're saying we're hitting we every week they're saying you guys are hitting record numbers you're part of a job you guys are hitting record numbers with votes and views do you feel that in the live show like do you feel the energy really ramped up this past
[SPEAKER_03]: not just audience, but like energy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we've sold out an every show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they had to extend the tour by like two weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it was just, you can tell the energy in theaters are amazing and that's why you kind of love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You get that instant feedback.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not that that's what you're chasing, but like you can connect with the audience.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whereas when you're on the TV show, you're dancing mainly to the camera.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's an audience in the room, but you're mainly focusing for the millions of people watching.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whereas when you're in the theaters, it's thousands of people, but you connect with them on a very personal level.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you're doing when you're choreographing for the TV show, do you try and give certain moments like look at the camera hit that smile?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are there things that you can do to try and get that scream?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think certain people do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's, sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's so ram-vonged.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeff, you get up here, dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you bring him to rehearsals?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's this.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I was like, oh, he's going to be good.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to be sitting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_03]: When I'm sitting, he's not.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a year and a half now, you said?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's a year and a half.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeff, come in and do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's he like on tour?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's great on tour because we got to walk along.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's great on tour.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jesus, Jeff, the fans love him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, oh, do you choreograph?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, sometimes you choreograph moments.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes it's like about the dancing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think when the music fits, it really fits.
[SPEAKER_03]: that crinkling is Jeff playing with a bag.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry though.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, this is about Jeff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I brought him to tell you guys that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably just Jeff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly.
[SPEAKER_00]: When we finish show day, obviously dancing is such an intense physical activity.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a routine that you like to wind down and are you going to in and out?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you trying to get some kind of food?
[SPEAKER_03]: definitely food where it depends like air ones might go to because it's right there and it's an easy to pick up on the way home but we've also been going to meet Emma go to restaurants afterwards.
[SPEAKER_00]: And are you guys just chatting the show or is it kind of separate?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's both, you know, you're on such an adrenaline rush that like you can't help but like look at your phone, but also like you just did so much that it's nice to be off your phone, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like a fine line of like just enjoying dinner, but then also like looking what people are saying and like you're happy you made it to the next round.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it's it's wild.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a roller coaster of emotions the whole show.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so insane because you're in that little bar room.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but then it's being viewed out to millions of people at home.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you see what people think about it instantly that instant feedback from social media.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think this year more than ever, like you go on TikTok after the show and people are like reviewing it live and it's like you see what everyone thinks and it's just really it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's bringing even more eyes to the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think dancing with the stars is like the coolest show to talk about right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why it's becoming even more and more popular like the ratings just keep going up every week and that's ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that chatter amongst the dancers to that, wow, this season's huge compared to the past few seasons?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, again, I think it's, it's been steadily growing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Last year was like the first time we're like, oh, wow, this is like really, really big.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think again, it's, it's the cast that they, that, that Dina Katz is casting incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: Incredible casting, last year was incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: this year is incredibly like it's fully up to them because without them obviously.
[SPEAKER_03]: You people are tuning in for the celebrities and you guys too don't sure, but like it's it's about the celebrities Right, I don't think we should make it about us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously we're like Jeff No, no eating wires are good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, Jeff.
[SPEAKER_03]: You sit Jeff.
[SPEAKER_03]: You sit.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna try this for a second sit down Jeffy nope, don't
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you just want love.
[SPEAKER_03]: You won't love.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got to take a love break.
[SPEAKER_03]: Love break.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Love break.
[SPEAKER_03]: Love break.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good boy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fun dog Joe also has a Brussels Griffin.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can they get after?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: For sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's just.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the nicest dog.
[SPEAKER_03]: Two other dogs.
[SPEAKER_03]: He just if a dog doesn't say hi to him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_03]: He's so funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah,
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeff, sit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: What were we saying?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a favorite memory with Elaine so far?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I have like a one moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it's really all just like every week.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's new moments.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, whether it's in rehearsals and like something funny, like, you know, it's just.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, it's, it's really easy going in the studio, you know, so we're having such a blast, time flies by, we're working really hard, but then we're also like trying to do social media and like, it's really cool reenacting some of the scenes from parent trap and like, all of her other movies, you know, so it's, that's really cool to be like doing really famous sounds on TikTok with the person that did it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like when we recreated one of the scenes of Meredith Blake, um, that to me was just like, this is crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is iconic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously you've been partnered with athletes in the past singers.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is being partnered with an actress?
[SPEAKER_00]: How is that different for her to learn new routines?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, again, I think every person is different.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think the person will find them into like, oh, an athlete's always going to be good or an actress is always going to be easy to remember, moves, because they can remember lines.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think every person's different, because I was also with Sky Jackson, who is a Disney star and other actress.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, she's in so many things and she was great as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, I don't think you can come
[SPEAKER_03]: pair just ill if you're an actor you're going to perform well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or if you're an actress you're going to learn something easier.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's really individual.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's great like with Elaine, she is, she knows how to bring things to life.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's really important and I don't think you can teach that like to me you can't teach passion and you can't teach you can tell somebody like this how you should perform.
[SPEAKER_03]: But when they're passionate about it it just is genuine.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like with Elaine it's all genuine and it feels great and I think watching it you're like oh she's really enjoying her time she's loving it.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's living her life out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: with her pureness.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like you're such an incredible teacher for her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you watch back the performance and go back with it to say we could do this a little better.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was perfect.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good job with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, you know, I think on to the next through the week.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, you definitely look back at it and you reflect like how proud you are because like, it's a lot of work to get to Tuesday show and maybe some people think,
[SPEAKER_03]: Like every, I don't know what the audience assumes, but like for a lane, it's not easy, but she's putting in so much work.
[SPEAKER_00]: She makes it look easy.
[SPEAKER_03]: She makes it look easy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think I think it was really impactful when she was like, I'm 54 and I just did that because when you're watching her, you're not thinking she's 54 years old.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're doing that quick step is like, yeah, when you're watching, you're like, this person's incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I don't think people realize that she's putting so much into it, and then the result makes it look like, oh, it's easy, but she is honestly one of the hardest workers I've ever met and doesn't complain and just, again, the joy of loving it, I think trumps everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: The joy of loving it is what really, you know, that
[SPEAKER_03]: That passion and joy makes everything worth whether you're foot hurts or you get blisters or or something The the passion behind it is what drives it text 21523 a lane.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, text the way the 21523 please It's just gonna be placed throughout every five minutes This out is brought to you by two one five to three He doesn't stop too, right Russell's kiss non though the kissing at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: He does not stop
[SPEAKER_00]: The day that I met Jojo, he crawls up on me and just looks me, the entire car ride.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a two hour car ride.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's sleeping in the car.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, he panics.
[SPEAKER_03]: He panics.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's looking around.
[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to see what's going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then finally, by the time we get to where we're going.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he sits.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeff sleeps.
[SPEAKER_03]: We get in the car.
[SPEAKER_03]: I literally turn on the car.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sleeps.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish on my lap.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jojo had a seizure.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he panics, nonstop.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then finally, he rest when it's time to move on to the next
[SPEAKER_03]: he's in his own world this is yeah like so Jeff is on a very strict schedule of bathroom break at six a.m.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wake up from sleep at six a.m.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then he goes back to sleep for an hour then seven a.m.
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes back to sleep for an hour.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then it's food time.
[SPEAKER_03]: no matter what, no matter what he's doing at seven a.m.
[SPEAKER_03]: he needs his food.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you break down the dancing with the stars week?
[SPEAKER_00]: So Elaine does the final dance on Tuesday?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: What happens on Wednesday?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you already learning the following routine?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh God, Jeff, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's, I think the... You think it's okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's just crumbling a bag.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeffy!
[SPEAKER_03]: um show finishes.
[SPEAKER_03]: We go Wednesday morning.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like 9 a.m.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, okay, time to really solidify this week's dance.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we usually have rehearsals either one to five or five tonight on Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_03]: So in the morning, you're already on prepping, yeah, making sure that the dance is ready to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we do either one to five or five tonight and you film interviews during that.
[SPEAKER_03]: You start teaching them the dance on Thursday and we get four hours a day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thursday, we get rehearsal again.
[SPEAKER_03]: And by the end of your Thursday rehearsal, you have to have the
[SPEAKER_03]: done and and filmed for the director.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then Friday, Saturday, Sunday, you clean Monday, you camera block.
[SPEAKER_00]: Friday, Saturday, Sunday, you're still in the four hour block.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're in the four hours.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just cleaning it, running it, you know, a big thing is muscle memory.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you that goal is not to think when you're dancing.
[SPEAKER_03]: The goal is to just go out there and do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so that only happens because it's such a short amount of time if you run it
[SPEAKER_03]: And you're yelling too during the performance sometimes you know sometimes you're like giving them like little keywords and that you make up during rehearsals so it could be a different thing every time you know like you just say something that like helps you connect and they used to do sunshine sunshine
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think with Reggie issue and do things with Andy, I'm sure she's saying different things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's very, it's very particular for the celebs and that dance, so it'll probably be different things every dance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's in your show and tell that you guys are?
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't really do show and tell, oh, not because we're hiding it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like, we're, we sometimes show Andy and Emma just because they like showing us.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if it also, if it happens to be at the same time of rehearsals, but normally we don't do a show and tell or just kind of running it ourselves.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, you know, the producers will invite some of the producers in.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, when the rehearsal block is done is a lane going home and
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you need to know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think again, everyone's different, but she loves it so much that she'll like come back and like it'll be so solidified and she's I was thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was practicing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, that's why she's doing so well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, because if you only do the bare minimum.
[SPEAKER_03]: unless you're incredible, it's going to be, it might show where it's like when you put in the extra hours, whether it's just that home thinking about it or watching the video or or walking a certain way, I think that is what takes it to the next level.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love seeing how much this the celebs want it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, everyone, this season, it's everyone, like it's wild.
[SPEAKER_00]: In the beginning of dancing with a star season, do you have a routine or anything to try and get
[SPEAKER_03]: This here more than ever, I think everyone saw it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like all the pros were really taking lessons beforehand.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for like a few months.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it just, there wasn't like a thing that everyone said, oh, let's do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was just like everyone started doing it themselves.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it ended up happening that everyone was just like refreshing and getting into the right mind frame and learning new things.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, just again, refreshing the craft.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was that something you were doing to?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was, it was amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so that obviously helps working out dieting, like being eating healthy, just you want to make sure that you start the season as strong as you can, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like mentally and physically.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there someone you love dancing with if you were to be partnered with for an opening number?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, like one of the pros?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I love dancing with Emma, obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what's that like for the two of you?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we're very lucky to, again, do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We love with the person that you're with.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, it's a dream come true.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we get to go on tour together.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just so much fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: nonstop dance doing the thing you love exactly where you guys spending your time in the off days or even before show when you're on tour are you looking for the best restaurants the best gyms to go head up oh yeah no we definitely we watch a lot of movies we go to a lot of movie theaters oh yeah I usually don't do um so that's fun we hike we obviously eat restaurants are really important we found the greatest
[SPEAKER_00]: And is that here, you know what, is it gelada?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, love to eat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Love to eat, I had heard that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you have to try gelada.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where's that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Somewhere in LA, but it's like 15 minutes from here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's one of the best.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's on Dinosaur Travis and Dives.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'll have to try it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very tasty.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, when there's a big hype about easy street?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: We waited like an hour in line for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that burger.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's unbelievable, it's right here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, have you had heavy handed also?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I haven't had heavy handed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really good smash burger.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're different it's hard to say which is better because it's like just I feel like each smash burger is kind of styled differently even the fries if one's a beef towel one's not it's just different but I think it's worth it's definitely in the top three in LA really I think so what's your number one easy three will move them in it's hard to say and I'm what's the third or what's the third option.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's your top three we got the window the window.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can I have that one?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the one in the group, not the group.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, is it the group?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's right by the studio.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's like American beauty, the window.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, really.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what it's best burgers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really?
[SPEAKER_03]: So there used to be a really good burger spot in like a bar downtown called Royce.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: I forgot whatever the bar was.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember having a simple cheeseburger.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like patty, cheese pickles, and I was like phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_03]: I went back there and it wasn't as good and I was like, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the worst.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also local kitchens.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a chef named Alvin Caylan.
[SPEAKER_00]: His burger is,
[SPEAKER_00]: Like like gourmet it looks like it's in a cartoon.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am a sucker for burgers I'm gonna send you the local kitchen so that is a must really okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, don't Okay, but yeah, I know when you remember something so good and then you go back and it's not the same You're like dang it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I like I had it like three years ago and I would tell everyone like this is the best burger ever
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes I don't like going back because I've built it up so much back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I can't ruin that memory.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was so good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to ruin that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you explain how it works when you're building out the live performance?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you the one curating what's on the screen?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you bringing in the truth members if you want extra people?
[SPEAKER_03]: We have an incredible creative director and the whole team.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's probably like 11 people part of the team.
[SPEAKER_03]: One person for the hair that decides with Elaine what she wants to do, one with the makeup, one for the costumes, one for the screens, one for like the, if we want troop or if we want props.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like we get to decide all of that,
[SPEAKER_03]: entirely up to budget and fairness of like, oh, you had a big set last week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you don't have one this week or you had true class week.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're not having true this week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it really is just
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they try to make it as fair as possible.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but it's like a budget thing of like, we, or we can't give you this because the next number has this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you don't want it to look the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you can suggest things.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like, for example, when we did,
[SPEAKER_03]: the drive for one hit one tonight to Mickey.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, it would be amazing if we had troop that could just, they don't have to move, but as long as they do like some cheerleading with us.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they were like, yeah, and it was great, and it turned out amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, we didn't get to see them.
[SPEAKER_03]: We didn't rehearse with them.
[SPEAKER_03]: even on the camera blocking only on camera blocking because like in the first few weeks they don't want the troop to do choreography because it's about the star and I think you want to make it look different than the free styles and all that so you literally get 30 minutes before camera blocking to show them.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so much talent they have to just keep it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: The truth is incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like every year they're incredible this year they're so awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like really, really compliments to the truth.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was in the crowd for the Mickey one and seeing everybody have the pom-pom.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like when things just come together like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, you can plan certain things.
[SPEAKER_03]: But for that it was like
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember on the colors like, can we have just one side to have pom-poms and then I'll finish where that's gonna be my back.
[SPEAKER_03]: So even before I choreographed, I'm like, I wanna do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you can see them in the back of us doing pom-poms while we're dancing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there a dance that, from this season that you're most proud of, that you choreographed?
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, hey, that would look cool on my reel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, honestly all four with Elaine have been really really good in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they bring something different each week.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the quick step is just like my favorite right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where you're the alien.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that one was just really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: We danced to a song from a ride, which no one's ever done before.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the best rides.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the best rides for sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: Space Mountain is a legendary.
[SPEAKER_00]: I legend.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's just a ride.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, you sit in the cart and that song turns on.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you're instantly transported.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so when we went back there this past week to film.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're sitting in the cart and the cart.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the song turns on and you're like, oh, yeah, the song is iconic.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, maybe if you ask somebody what the Space Mountain song is and I have no idea, but then you hear it, you're like, oh, that's the Space Mountain song.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think it was a really, it was somewhat of a gamble to do it because everyone else did movies or characters.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this one is just a ride, but I think it turned out so well and like the gamble really paid off.
[SPEAKER_03]: It only worked because Elaine had such a good tie to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: She was Pam Palsar, so for those of us that don't know, when you're waiting in line, they have like the little...
[SPEAKER_03]: like explanation videos before the ride, just to keep you when it's a two-hour wait to ride, just to keep you entertained.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so she was that back in, I think, the early 2000s.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or even late 90s, I don't remember.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, she was saying it was before parent truck.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, it was really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeff, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_03]: It was really cool to have a connection like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because if you're just doing a ride with no connection, it would be really hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have anything that you're excited about for the upcoming weeks?
[SPEAKER_00]: I know Joey talks about the future dances and yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to be honest, I take it week by week.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't even think about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's a superstitious thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's like, you know, why worry about something that is so far ahead?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's obviously you're thinking about things and like, for Halloween, you're like, already thinking about concepts,
[SPEAKER_03]: Wicked is going to be awesome just because it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's wicked.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the movies incredible, the plays incredible, the music's incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so that's going to be a really cool night.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so that one's exciting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Halloween's always exciting.
[SPEAKER_03]: The 20th year celebrations
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know exactly, and maybe I'm not supposed to say it, but it's going to be cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then yeah, and then we have Prince Knight, which is awesome because I don't think he's ever cleared music for the show before.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're going to, you're going to, we're going to use it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think he has a state cleared it for the first time, which is awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it's the finale.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, so like there's some really cool themes, but I'm not really thinking too far ahead, you know, especially with choreography.
[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned superstitions.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you won, is there anything from that season that you felt that you just have to keep doing to try going forward?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes and no, superstitions change, I wear the same underwear every show.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like the same pair, obviously they watch it, but like the same exact pair.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it might have never been a picture for that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it might be a few seasons of the exact same pair.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do those stay at home or do they go over with you?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, not on tour for the TV show.
[SPEAKER_00]: These are specific TV show, did you win in them?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's just, no, because that underwear would be old.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I think it's, it's just, I am a creature of habit.
[SPEAKER_00]: You are one cool dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: You really are.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's weird, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, no, I am a very superstitious.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like there was what I listen to the same song every day every time I go to the studio like the every Tuesday I'm not gonna tell you until the afterwards.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't give it away This is your hype up song.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, show deck.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but every every Tuesday I only listen to this song.
[SPEAKER_00]: Leave your comment down below if you think you know You won't know what it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a deep cut.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a very off-brand for me
[SPEAKER_03]: But I might mention afterwards there was one season like I do it every season like a different song So like one season was all the way up like fat Joe.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh really yeah, like random like like Isn't it in the New York rap category?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, this one is not in the There's one season I did chop sui
[SPEAKER_00]: It's that's just what you were into at the moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's just like something.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know Have you ever seen the life system?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, but that song is incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know every word.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's so funny Wait a little bit of a brush a bit of a make up Everybody maybe that's your rock star song.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm again.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have every season I have one when you were growing up.
[SPEAKER_00]: What got you into dance?
[SPEAKER_03]: my my siblings my brother was dancing my parents made them start and I was seven years old and they just brought me along and I was like they're doing it I'm going to do it too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll point to you realize you're good at it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Last year You know, I won.
[SPEAKER_03]: What I won here there season 28.
[SPEAKER_03]: I won, but again, I wasn't sure Honestly, there wasn't like a Moment of like oh you're good at this.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was more of a moment of like I love this You know, I don't think I'm the best dancer.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't you know, it's more of like I really love this from a young age and
[SPEAKER_03]: At the time, I was like, hopefully I can make a career out of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: What does a career look like?
[SPEAKER_00]: There was no.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's maybe like a traveling show or like, was that like burn the floor?
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I did burn the floor.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like, oh, burn the floor.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then my family on the studio, maybe I'll teach their, you know, and I never imagined that dancing of the stars was even a possibility.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I got jealous.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, so like to me, it's like, I just enjoyed it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I loved it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know where it could take me, or where it would take me, but I was just like, who cares?
[SPEAKER_03]: When you love something, you just do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Were you loving choreography, too?
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you love teaching people?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I was teaching people at a young young age because of my family studio.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I like 15 or like 14.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was ready teaching like the younger kids, you know?
[SPEAKER_03]: And that was fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the show is completely different because you get to tell this celebrity story every week, whatever the story is.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like teaching them and making them find confidence in themselves and something they've never done before is
[SPEAKER_03]: Truly want to like the coolest selfish feelings I get like I get to help this person I get to help Elaine tell a story or find love of dancing in or feel good about yourself doing a quick step Where it's like
[SPEAKER_03]: Before the show she would have never done a quick step or even might have not known what a quick step was, you know, and so we get the opportunity to just, and it sounds wild because it's just a dance, but like you change these people's lives because they're Feeling good about themselves, they're learning about themselves.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're going out in front of millions of people and just, you know, enjoying the process and and
[SPEAKER_03]: you make a really cool relationship along the way and friendship that truly lasts forever, you know, with, with certain people, Jeff.
[SPEAKER_00]: What a time.
[SPEAKER_00]: You like, Jeff?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: What a time.
[SPEAKER_03]: You, you, you make certain relationships that will, and friendships that last forever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know this is personal to you and if you don't want to explain it, but how do you figure out how to highlight that person and really make them shine because I feel like you're so good at tapping into the other person's emotions and their vulnerabilities and bringing that to the ballroom stage.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think that's something that I've
[SPEAKER_03]: A, I, I realized, you know, the show's not about me.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the partnerships not about me.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's about us, but more so it's about them highlighting her exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like, I would say I've done a lot of work and really learned how to communicate better.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think communication is, you know, obviously one of the most important things, but if you don't
[SPEAKER_03]: care to know about the person you can't really make them shine.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I really care about my partners.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really care about Elaine.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know a lot about Elaine just because I'm constantly asking and learning about her and figuring out, you know, what she can connect to in a dance or what
[SPEAKER_03]: gives her energy, helps her perform like, it's all about her at the end of the day.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want her to go out there and shine and if she does that, then I did a good job.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so it's not about me doing a song that I like or me doing this.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's more about like, how can I make Elaine have moments that she's going to look back on and be like, I'm so proud of myself that I did that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you tweaking anything now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Today is Friday.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Friday.
[SPEAKER_00]: The dance is set for the most part.
[SPEAKER_03]: the dances set for the most part.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now it's like, yeah, fine tuning, seeing maybe she can't do this too much so you adjust it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this week is hard because because of the dedication week.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you have to maybe people, yeah, some people are in it longer than others, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like some of the people that are dedicated to are in the dance more than some of the others.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's it's also about
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, making sure that person in our case Lee San Walter is comfortable in doing a job.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, this week is really cool because it's the extra energy in the room.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's also like obviously Elaine and Lisa are such good friends that it works, but like sometimes it's hard having another person in the room, especially when you're when somebody's learning it for the first time as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's not like when we did trio's back in the day where there's two pros and that the other pros helping the celebrity here's like Elaine's helping Lisa, you know, text 20523 a land Elaine 21523 if you could bring back any old style like trio's from dancing with the stars make it happen this season what would it be.
[SPEAKER_03]: Trials.
[SPEAKER_00]: Trials is cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think trials is fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, trials is good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I'd want this, but it was a cool one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Switch up week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like where you get a different.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm loving dancing with the lanes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to do a switch up week.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I remember watching because I never did one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember watching, be like, oh, this is crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, this is the energies are so different.
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember watching, and I'm be like, this is really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder, like, how the dynamic is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, last season they did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Relearn your whatever week dance in two minutes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Was that just one?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, the instant dance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Instant dance, so what is that again?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so we chose literally live what dance you were doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it over recreating week two.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have to.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's not even recreating.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like you don't know what song or anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just like this, you like, OK, you set routines in advance, but again, not to music.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like during the commercial, you're setting it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're hearing the music for the first time.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, OK, we have to change this.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have to make this fit and right here.
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, you're setting like four dances.
[SPEAKER_03]: but you don't know which one you're getting.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was stressful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Last year we did it, I was at Elona and we did a salsa and it ended up working great.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it was scary.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they don't warn us even in the slightest of what we're gonna get.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys are true for us.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys are honestly awesome and the best at the craft and I love watching you every single week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, it's credit to the celebrities as well because if they weren't able to do it, we wouldn't be able to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to one, five, two, three.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything you have else coming up that is your family studio still open?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, family studio still open.
[SPEAKER_03]: Me and my brother, I guess my family, we bought a ballroom dance competition.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's in the end of January.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's in Minnesota if you're competing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Come.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go enter.
[SPEAKER_03]: Go enter.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's called snowball.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you on to ordering that?
[SPEAKER_03]: I am on to ordering that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But who knows?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, maybe a day off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that obviously the tour is a long tour.
[SPEAKER_00]: We go and tell me Yeah, is this this is a longer one now?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a longer one longer one um But I think it's more spread out like we're in a few cities longer as opposed to just one day That's like I think we're in certain cities for like two or three days, which is cool because then we get to explore the city
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to get the same bunk?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you try and get the same bunk?
[SPEAKER_00]: I get the same bunk every single tour of your bottom, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: No top.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even with Jeff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even with Jeff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the two of you guys are sleeping in that bunk.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's in a little like travel crate, like a mesh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm afraid he'll fall out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like he sleeps in that and he loves it.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is one of those dogs that Sorry, he is one of those dogs that loves motion.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah in the car and the boss He's sleeping.
[SPEAKER_03]: He just has a plane.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he tired himself.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, he's good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he now that we're almost dogs He's like a real ax
[SPEAKER_03]: Seriously, he's so like a nap time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well Alan, this is awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for coming by my pleasure 21523 text the lane.
[SPEAKER_03]: Next lane.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so important voting really matters, please.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything you see different with voting this time around?
[SPEAKER_03]: just that it's a record breaking numbers.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's insane.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's actually insane.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it's incredible, though.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think you see it again on TikTok, it's very noticeable because the algorithm just shows you, but like it's so cool seeing everyone, he's snoring.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is your snoring?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, last night.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so cool seeing everyone's like pyramids of the week of like who they think did the best and and the reviews and it's it's honestly I like seeing them but at the same time it's like the fact that people care this much to actually do this is
[SPEAKER_03]: So cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: And to be part of a show like that, we're going to say this is what everyone's talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a blessing.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a dream come true.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like the fact that it has had this resurgence is awesome and really like just the coolest thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel so honored to be a part of this season.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you get a critique from a judge, are you looking forward to working on that note, so they're impressed next week?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, like we did the tango two weeks ago and the judges were like, oh, work on the frame and this week, like we for the quicksup, we really worked on the frame and they were like,
[SPEAKER_03]: great job you worked on the frame and you can see it.
[SPEAKER_03]: What does that mean like for you?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a huge accomplishment because Elaine obviously she's had certain accidents that restrict her.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know it's not that she can't put or she doesn't want to put her shoulder down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Certain moves she just can't do because when she's younger she got hit by a car and then certain other accidents and it's like her body's a little restricted.
[SPEAKER_03]: but we were able to find a way to figure it out to make her shoulder down and her elbows out.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so that was like a cool little puzzle to solve.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the fact that we did it and she looked incredible is just like a testament to her.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, she's the one that kept trying and and didn't give up and really focused on looking her best.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm just so happy that I'm with a partner like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: When Julia and our fans will throw you a question, all that's off of time.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you, that's all like real alive in the moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't warn you.
[SPEAKER_00]: How cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so to me, it's even cooler that like Elaine is taking this opportunity and, you know, inspiring so many people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because to me, you know, I think last week she mentioned a book, like, it's never too late to follow a dream or what, or your dreams can come true, whether you think they're happening or not, like she's living her dream right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: I I see that every day in rehearsals, and I hope America sees that too.
[SPEAKER_00]: It definitely do Cool guys go Jackson to 1523.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, vote for a lame also Jeff is finally sitting on in my lap.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's good.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, okay You won't make one more love session.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, good job